What kind of Behind the Scenes Pic of the Day would do this to a dog?
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with today’s Behind the Scenes Pic!
I’m still in an alien-y mood, so I figured why not post a picture of David Fincher within kissing distance of a xenomorph?
Two things stand out to be about this image. One, David Fincher looks like he’s about 13 years old and two, you can clearly tell the pressure he’s under. We’ll never get to see the David Fincher Alien movie he intended thanks to a powerful star wanting out and a hands-on studio trying to control every aspect of their popular franchise, but for all its faults Alien 3 has does provide fascinating glimpses of a brilliant movie.
Thanks to Pat Barnett for sending this one in! Click to slightly enlargen.
If you have a behind the scenes shot you’d like to submit to this column, you can email me at email@example.com.
Tomorrow’s pic is gonna get you. Not another peep, time to go to sleep!
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June 10, 2012, 7:49 p.m. CST
June 10, 2012, 7:51 p.m. CST
To say that Alien 3 wasn't too bad, imho.....
June 10, 2012, 7:54 p.m. CST
June 10, 2012, 7:55 p.m. CST
I rented it on VHS, and my dumb friend, who saw it in theatre, kept saying "Ooh check this part out." ruining the suspense.
June 10, 2012, 7:59 p.m. CST
by Mark Jones
It's grim, it's dark, it's depressing and I bloody love it. And Charles Dance completely owns this film... at least half of it.
June 10, 2012, 8:07 p.m. CST
I remember the tumultuous David Twohy/Vincent Ward production history from Starlog and Variety. Much like Ridley Scott, Fincher needs a solid script and ALIEN3's was all over the place.
June 10, 2012, 8:08 p.m. CST
But I've come to appreciate aspects of it over the years. Having one single Alien running around was a pretty ballsy move. And Dutton and Dance are both great, as is Sigourney. But the Alien puppet/matte shots look atrocious and the decision to have 20 indiscernible bald white guys running around in the dark still boggles the mind. Could've been a masterpiece. What a shame.
June 10, 2012, 8:14 p.m. CST
by judge dredds fresh undies
It has proper characters and acting. Everything looks real instead of made out of plastic, shot on a soundstage. Pretty nice score too...
June 10, 2012, 8:19 p.m. CST
by Joe Walsh
I always thought the ending was powerful. Loved the dread that the movie created. My dad started telling me and my brother about who the company guys at the end were. We'd seen the other movies, but younger. It was fun imagining this bigger, frightening sci fi world with this super powerful corporation working behind the scenes with dangerous stuff.
June 10, 2012, 8:25 p.m. CST
by Winston Smith
Fincher is like Scott where he needs a strong script. With a great script, they can make a true masterpiece, as good as it gets. But without one, well... they clearly are not writers.
June 10, 2012, 8:52 p.m. CST
Evil Dead tomorrow! Alien 3's biggest faults is (a) killing Hicks and Newt in the first five minutes, negating the last 30 minutes of Aliens; (b) where did the egg come from; and (c) it's not Aliens. But overall, it was a good movie (and Charles S. Dutton kicked ass in it!)
June 10, 2012, 9:10 p.m. CST
I remember hating this the first time I saw it. But now it grew on me. Very bleak and sad movie.
June 10, 2012, 9:10 p.m. CST
by Christian Sylvain
I'd hate to be known as the guy who killed the alien franchise, when I was in fact the one person who gave such a terribly scripted film all of it's good qualities. Ah hell. At least he got a new start with Se7en.
June 10, 2012, 9:13 p.m. CST
June 10, 2012, 9:23 p.m. CST
by ajit maholtra
June 10, 2012, 9:33 p.m. CST
I'd say that even Alien Resurrection didn't kill it. Did Alien Resurrection kick the franchise in the balls? Sure, but it didn't kill it. Even if Sigourney didn't want to return for an Alien 5, James Cameron and Ridley Scott were working on what probably became Prometheus, but then Fox was retarded and told Ridley and Jimbo to screw off so that Paul WS Anderson could make AvP*. WTF? AvP killed it. Jim Cameron even said as much, when he stated that it was like Universal having Frankenstein and the Wolfman with Laurel and Hardy. It was all just wrong, and took the bite out of the xenomorph. That is probably why Ridley Scott didn't want to have the xenomorphs in Prometheus. He felt it had been exploited at that point. I think the xenomorph can still make a comeback, but it sucks that we probably have to wait a long ass time, and even then, probably will just be a lazy remake of Alien anyways. CONTAINS PROMETHEUS SPOILERS BELOW * Part of me thinks that if what Cameron and Scott were cooking up about a decade ago for an Alien 5 or Alien prequel was what became Prometheus, then I wonder if Fox saw what they were planning and gave the story synopsis to Paul WS Anderson, who stole elements of it for the plot of AvP? It is strangely uncanny how close so many elements from AvP were seen in Prometheus (ancient aliens angle, giant alien pyramids, chestburster at the end, kinda open-ended with the implication of a sequel wrapping it all up).
June 10, 2012, 10:31 p.m. CST
Can someone link the shitty behind the scenes drama about Alien 3? I know nothing about it and was curious why Weaver was so bitter and wanted out so badly.
June 10, 2012, 10:37 p.m. CST
On sheer entertainment value Prometheus definitely tops this snoozefest.
June 10, 2012, 10:38 p.m. CST
by ajit maholtra
They have individual shower stalls so you can shower alone. But today when showering, one gay guy opened the door and said, Can I get in there with you? And I said, Get out of here you madarchod!!!
June 10, 2012, 10:47 p.m. CST
June 10, 2012, 10:54 p.m. CST
June 11, 2012, 12:02 a.m. CST
by Stereotypical Evil Archer
Alien3 does indeed have moments of brilliance within it's completely misguided misogynist concept.
June 11, 2012, 12:05 a.m. CST
They thought Alien 3 was good in any way? I thought it was a total piece of shit. I try, but find myself changing the channel when it's on. Total piece of fresh, steaming pile of boring shit in my opinion. Someone "enlighten" me. thanks.
June 11, 2012, 12:29 a.m. CST
Seven, Fight Club, Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, Zodiac, even The Game to some extent. Nevertheless, Alien3 was shit.
June 11, 2012, 12:39 a.m. CST
June 11, 2012, 1:21 a.m. CST
June 11, 2012, 2:50 a.m. CST
WHERE ARE THEY HOPE MY SUBJECT LINE DOESN'T GET CUT OFF
June 11, 2012, 2:54 a.m. CST
Anybody that thinks Prometheus is better than Alien 3 is insane. Alien 3, despite the productions nightmares, is a beautiful work of art. Prometheus is a fanboy cash-in. <p> The Alien 3 score is one of my favourite scores ever, the low-angle cinematography from Alex Thompson, the all-pervading atmosphere of doom and hopelessness, Oscar-worthy performances from Weaver and Dutton. One of the bravest 'blockbusters' i've ever seen. The Alien series concludes with Ripley taking the alien queen with her into the fire. No need for anything else after.
June 11, 2012, 4:27 a.m. CST
...but good in parts. A major disappointment for me was the 'affair' between Ripley and Clemens. It felt really shoehorned in a 'if they have sex they die' sort of way. Not necessary at all...
June 11, 2012, 6:01 a.m. CST
by Martin Hogg
....but disappointing because of the way it discarded much of what had happened in the previous film. And because it didnt have Michael Biehn in it. I shit you not:)
June 11, 2012, 6:01 a.m. CST
as I frickin' love both movies. Screw the whiners. Ridley Scott, James Cameron, David Fincher, Jean Pierre Jeunet. If I thought I could direct a movie in any of the given circumstances in which their movie were any better than them, then I'd bitch.
June 11, 2012, 6:02 a.m. CST
If I thought I could direct a movie in any of the given circumstances in which their movies were any better than them, then I'd bitch.
June 11, 2012, 6:51 a.m. CST
I thought it was appropriate to kill of Hicks and Newt. The whole point of this movie series is that most everyone dies. Besides, what would Newt and Hicks actually have done in that prison environment?
June 11, 2012, 7 a.m. CST
I can't begin to imagine how many movies I don't like. But normal, mature, sensible people move on and forget about the films they don't like. Don't worry, you're not alone in not being a fan of the franchise. Most people aren't. Most tend to love Aliens, and probably say they enjoy the first movie but would probably rather watch Aliens over and over again! I really enjoy Alien 3! I've explained a little about why in the Talkback that discusses the film. Like anyone who enjoys a movie, I'm more than happy to tak about it with like-minded people. But for those who dislike this film; Tough luck. Move on. Forget about it. Concentrate on the movies you enjoy and accept you're not the quite the hardcore Alien fan you want to be. You could hear a thousand explanations from people who enjoyed the film but it's not going to make any difference. Personally I don't understand what people enjoy about the Harry Potter series, for example, but I don't need anyone to explain why they liked it. It's enough for me to know I don't care for them, and so I seek out different movies and let everyone have their own individual opinions and tastes.
June 11, 2012, 8:24 a.m. CST
Any possibility for Alien 3 not sucking was blown out the airlock in the opening 3 minutes in which we discover the characters we loved in Aliens died off-screen.
And it just goes downhill from there. The idea of a space gothic horror prison was a good idea. Everything else, not so much.
June 11, 2012, 8:41 a.m. CST
Sorry, what? Alien 3's ham-fisted, brutal opening renders the titanic, epic struggle of Aliens utterly redundant. It takes a massive shit on that fucking phenomenally cathartic and rewarding finale. Not to mention the ludicrous retro-fit fudge of how the fuck an egg got onto that ship in the first place. Killing Hicks and Newt was spectacularly ill-judged. Just a truly awful, terrible narrative decision.
June 11, 2012, 8:48 a.m. CST
June 11, 2012, 8:52 a.m. CST
ALIEN 3 and ALIEN RESURRECTION are dead to me in either of their cuts. But Ripley, Newt, and Hicks may not be! Here's how - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1O-ace_iPM
June 11, 2012, 8:56 a.m. CST
...and 'dog-buster' > 'ox-buster'. The 'ox' scenes pale compared to the rottweiler shots, as far as I'm concerned.
June 11, 2012, 9:38 a.m. CST
This movie is easily in my top-ten all time most hated films. Hated. HATED. It has ZERO redeeming qualities. NONE. When Alien came out, it was odd and not widely loved, it was panned in many circles for being too slow, and boring, etc. Never hated, but just sort of disregarded by those who just weren't 'into it'. But for thos who really decided to embrace the movie, the world, the universe it inhabited, it held a special place, and spawned a whole genre of sci-fi horror, such as, er, what was that thing? Saturn 3? Never saw it, but I think that was the title. But then Aliens came along. Different director, but equally good in his own way. Took our knowledge and history and LOVE of the first movie and RESPECTED it, and our love GREW. Aliens then spawned further generations of sci-fi entities. There would be no Doom without it. No Starcraft. No Halo. And that is just the tip of the iceberg. How many movies and tv shows were borne from Cameron's 'Marines in Space' movie, which was birthed from Scott's brilliant 'Horror Movie in Space'. Those two movies, there was such LOVE. Still is, it has not been lessened over the years. We loved Alien, and we absolutely blew our pants off with Aliens. So we knew, as fans, that an Alien3 would just completely obliterate our brains with some kind of awesomeness. Whatever it was going to be, it was going to surprise us and our expectations would never match up to it. And then.. Oh man. Alien3 is the movie you can point to as Exhibit A in making the case that the 'decision-makers' in Hollywood have no freaking clue what they are doing much of the time. This was every human failing you could imagine, all rolled into one massive ball of bitter putrescence. Arrogance, contempt for the audience, ignorance, jealousy, ugliness, callousness, greed.. the list can just go on and on. We had such LOVE, just waiting to wash over the latest installment of this universe's stories. Instead we got slapped, knocked down, robbed and laughed at by a bully. It was not fun then. It is not fun now. I saw it once, and that was enough for my hatred to become instant and permanent. Anyone who defends it, I don't know what you can possibly be thinking, and I don't care. You're just plain wrong. And the thing which I wish some brave soul would finally understand: This is not a religion. There is no such thing as 'canon' where entertainment is concerned, especially not when what was loved and revered has already been defiled by its own sequel. Hollywood can make it right. They can create a true Alien 3, and simply say the other one doesn't exist, or whatever, it really doesn't matter. Just do the real third story, and fix what you broke. It will work. They killed Kenny in every episode, and yet there he was the next week. Don't worry about it, the pig-shit that was Alien3 does not require you to never try to make it right. It's not a religion, and it's not a law. Just do it.
June 11, 2012, 9:48 a.m. CST
They make it all the way to the same medical facility in orbit around earth from 'Aliens', and everybody lives. Bishop is looking at the scrapyard, but the crew rallies in support and he gets refitted. Unfortunately, there's an alien embryo in his thorax living off his nutrient/synaptic fluid, and it slips away during the procedure. Naturally, all hell breaks loose again. It turns into a race for life-pods to get to the surface, with a funny scene about Bishop's rehabed knees failing when he forces a blast/fire hatch and bitches repeatedly for the rest of the film about "shit, carbon-fiber, after-market replacement parts". Things get ugly, but they escape to the surface... unfortunately the alien makes it too. Ripley goes head-to-head with it driving a massive grain harvester. Was a really sweet script :(. One of the reasons why it was dropped was because Weaver was sick of working under contract with Fox, and wanted off the film. Fox promised her a huge pay increase, and she INITIALLY refused. The delays were bugging financial, so the cut the budget. NOW they had to make up the money they promised Sigorney, so they killed off the survivors, rewrote the script, and then had to RE-WRITE it when Sigorney demanded it be her last one by having them kill her off. Execs said "Ok".. and you saw what we got.
June 11, 2012, 9:52 a.m. CST
That's how you make a movie. You throw a bunch of shit in a burlap sack and you beat the sack with sticks. Then shake it. Then you dump the sack out into theaters.
June 11, 2012, 10:13 a.m. CST
June 11, 2012, 10:41 a.m. CST
Alien 3 is still my fave film of all time. I'll defend it to the death...sure it has flaws...but it is a serious vision and it looks a treat. David Fincher also remains my favourite director ever...perhaps its my personality... he seems to fit to my outlook in life through film perfectly.
June 11, 2012, 11:54 a.m. CST
by Darth Macchio
Seriously. None of you actually hated Alien3 - you hate British people. The first movie? No Brits. Everybody loves it. The second? No Brits. Everybody loves it. The third? Lots of Brits. Everybody hates it. See? This is just post-revolutionary war grandstanding from the Yanks. Who obviously still hate the Brits. It's been this way for years - need evil badguys? Hire some Brits as obviously "English accent = evil"
June 11, 2012, 12:14 p.m. CST
Fixed that for ya
June 11, 2012, 12:45 p.m. CST
by Darth Macchio
But I think you also need to be bald to be truly, genuinely, actually evil. So English access = evil English accent + white kitty = really evil English accent + white kitty + bald = holy shit evil!!! Actually evil. Literally evil. Inconceivably evil.
June 11, 2012, 12:55 p.m. CST
Lol at people mad about Hicks and Newt dying... Like you do know what series you are watching, right?
It's freekin Alien... Not Bambi. Everyone's supposed to die! :) And yeah, prestigeworldwide, I didnt know about the BTS drama either... Had to look it up on wikipedia
June 11, 2012, 1:39 p.m. CST
I would like to have seen the original Alien 3 script made too, but nonetheless I love Alien3. It is distant 3rd...but still a movie I like a lot. Killing off...
Newt and Hicks was a reminder that the ending of Aliens was just a moment of false hope in a very nihlistic universe. The Alien universe is not a happy ending place. It is a place where there are dangerous messed up creatures from beyond our galaxy and beyond reason that are just going to kill you b/c if you run the numbers and you keep venturing into space you are eventually going to run into death most foul. Alien 3 did a great job with that. Now, I had no problem with the concept of Alien Resurrection bringing Ripley back as an alien/human hybrid (more nihlism really...it's not the same Ripley), but it was horribly executed. But this is why I don't like AvP and Prometheus so much. They are trying to give meaning and connection the Aliens' connection with humanity...robbing it of the mystery stinks.
June 14, 2012, 2:21 a.m. CST
It's clear from the Behind-the-Scenes with Biehn that it was her that wanted him out. It's also clear that Sigourney didn't get the series and was often trying to sabotage it (e.g. no weapons), making stupid creative decisions. The more influence she had, the worse the movies got.
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