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June 9, 2012, 4:43 a.m. CST
I hope you thought it was weak, your credibility rests on that
by catlettuce4
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June 9, 2012, 7:25 a.m. CST
Catlettuce4 - so if his opinion differs from you, he loses credibility...
by irishraidersfan
... Even if he can back it up? This is why I can't stand most Americans. They always mistake opinion for fact, and vice versa.
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June 9, 2012, 8:51 a.m. CST
Patton Oswalt has a comedy bit where he ponders what he would do if he had a time machine...
by L.H.Puttgrass
... his first idea would be to go back to 1994 and kill George Lucas with a shovel. At about 2:20AM on 6/8/2012 I was sitting in an IMAX theater thinking that he should add some more names to that endeavor. Here is some comedy to ease your pain. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDCjIjsZp_Y
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June 9, 2012, 9:21 a.m. CST
Hey! Patton Oswalt also has a comedy bit about writing movie scripts...
by L.H.Puttgrass
... I think I might have an idea as to what happened with the Prometheus script... They say laughter heals... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01l1WIC9mBo
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'Cuz the spoilers ARE a'cumin' and people WILL start crying if there ain't no tag on this article saying, "SPOILERS- Watch yourself, you just might step in sompthin'!". Just trying to help. See you tonight on show.
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I wish I had a time machine so I could go back and stop myself from posting that without a "the" in front of "show". It just reads so much better with a "the". Don't it?
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I'd throw my Batgirl panties on stage while he performed. Funny, genius atheist geek guys are so fucking hot.
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black_apocalips... ...should this ever happen... ;-)
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Ebert gives it 4 stars ****. Remember when they were on that show together? Reviewing movies and such... Do you think Ebert ever offered Roeper a drink on the set between takes... ... and as he handed it over to him... ... he wiggled his finger in it? I bet movie critics are actually Engineers! They're trying to make Prometheus a hit movie! Those Space Jockey Bastards! Oooo. pink_apocalypse has Batgirl panties... Sorry, but I think Patton is married now. With a kid too, I believe.
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Herc is great talking about movies. Too bad he doesn't have time to review them here.
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...and as everyone on AICN knows, the only opinions that matter are amateur haters.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvbiGp_Evgo&feature=related Friggin' hilarious.
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... I have no vested interest in saying anything I don't believe. Yes, I'm Mr. K-E-R-N. So, we had Damon Lindelof on the show last week despite the fact that the week before I went on a rant about how much I disliked LOST. I liked PROMETHEUS... quite a bit. I have no idea what the others on the show think or what they are going to say. We save it for on air. THAT'S why the show works. You wanna take me or Herc or Stefani or Movie Mike to task, my brave little talkbackers? Then have your mom pay you cell bill and call the show tonight. And catlettuce4... credibility? What the hell do you know about credibility? Do you mean I should stand up to your idea of what credibility is, you faceless, nameless, talkback poster? Here are two suggestions for you... 1) call the show and lay it out there about why you hated the film and why we are wrong. 2) Don't listen to the show and stop posting on this site and go to where all your money fans and countless friends are and preach to them about why your opinion carries such heavy "cred". And when they don't agree with your view, you can point the finger of all-movie-knowing-credibility and banish them to the abyss. Has for the rest of ya'll... have a good 'un and see you tonight! ;)
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Could not agree more! :)
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We aim to please! :)
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June 9, 2012, 11:52 a.m. CST
welivestill...ornot - I see you've taken buckethead50's advice.
by L.H.Puttgrass
"Look! There! On the horizon! Look's like a storm's coming!" "Okay, Jed. Outta my way! I gotta close der winders!"
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June 9, 2012, 12:11 p.m. CST
welivestill...ornot - On the Ask Mr. K.E.R.N. webpage you have one podcast that requires a login and password. What's up wit dat?
by L.H.Puttgrass
May 12, 2012 Hour 2, Part 2 "Me no can leesen. Me no can download." "Maybe page is broke? Or maybe you have secret website for Illuminati?" I just want to hear about Tim Burton and his amazing Dark Shadows/Johnny Depp mashup. It's always an insert title/Jonnny Depp mashup.
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June 9, 2012, 12:18 p.m. CST
irishraidersfan - Don't sell yourself short. Sure you can agree more.
by L.H.Puttgrass
And you probably will...
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"Fuck-Squatch". Hilarious.
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Has far as the archives... I will alert my web master right now. Has far as your comment about buckethead50... LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!
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1.The totally unnecessary cameo at the end (that pretty much drug the second half of the film down to accommodate its appearance) is absolutely unrelated to you-know-what from that OTHER movie. 2.DIFFERENT PLANET, DIFFERENT SHIP. 3.All that other crap took place 2,000 years ago. ALL of it. That has went over so many people's heads that have seen this, I'd hate to have to call in to correct you.
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Bring it. At least you stood up and faced the music. We may not agree, but you're ok in my book.
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What are you referring to as 'all that other crap'?
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Who are you calling out? And I totally agree with you about the end scene in the film. THAT felt tacked on. Here's one last thing I'll say about PROMETHEUS and then I'll just save it for the show... I don't think this film needs or warrants a sequel. Now, would you like some tea, mum?
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June 9, 2012, 4:32 p.m. CST
welivestill...ornot - Are you using a touchscreen device? Smartphone? iPad?
by L.H.Puttgrass
Just wondering because those things have that devilish autocorrect and you seem to have typed,"Has far as the archives..." and "Has far as your comment about buckethead50...". I'm assuming you meant, "As far as..." I love the archives. I've downloaded it on a flashdrive and bring it to work to listen to while fix the stuff they busted in the depths of the Earth. The company doesn't allow any kind of streaming on their network. But that doesn't stop playing MP3's from my drive. As far as buckethead50's comment, I keed, I keed, I know you know I'm joking. You know? I know, I keeed, I keeeeed.
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What kind of tea are you serving. I prefer iced tea with some lemon.
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My grammar an speling aint' so goodly. I gets worked uppity and stuff... I'm in radio... what the hell do you want from me??? LOL Glad you're digging the show and using the website.
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June 9, 2012, 4:43 p.m. CST
A pinch of black goo, a dash of ALIEN and a heaping amount of unjustified hatred = a recipe for a great show. Looking forward to it.
by adeceasedfan
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The xeno outbreak/harvesting on LV-223 as alluded to in the film (the pile of chest bursted Jockeys) which jives with the fossilized derelict found in Alien that was carrying a shipment of eggs....most likely headed to earth since they were pissed off at us for something that happened or we did 2,000 years ago on Earth. And if you realize what that something is, you might just change your mind about not wanting a sequel, because it could be crazy as all get out.
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Got it! Yeah, I was planning on bringing that up tonight; Scott's interviews from this past week have been changing my opinion about certain aspects of the movie. I asked earlier because a friend of mine suggested that this movie takes place 2000 years AFTER Alien. I was baffled by that conclusion.
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No one, I just hope the ending and it's non-relation to Alien didn't go over anyone's head. Because it sure as hell has for a lot of folks. I mean they're like HEY, SEE THESE FOSSILIZED JOCKEY SKELETONS? THESE FOSSILIZED JOCKEY SKELETONS WITH THEIR CHEST BURSTED OUT? THESE FOSSILIZED JOCKEY SKELETONS WITH THEIR CHEST BURSTED OUT THAT ARE 2,000 YEARS OLD? Y'KNOW, LIKE THE ONE IN ALIEN? Yet there's people that think what we see in the ending leads to the crash of the ship that's been sitting on LV-426 forever. It already happened.
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June 9, 2012, 6:51 p.m. CST
adeceasedfan - The hatred IS a little high. *SPOILERS!*
by L.H.Puttgrass
People have been waiting for this a long time. I've known for years about Scott saying that all the sequels are missing the most interesting part of his first movie. He had said in interviews that they keep making the sequels about the xenomorph but never explore the origins of the derelict ship and it's pilot. So I wasn't expecting an "Alien" movie. All the promotional stuff was pointing to a Hard SF movie. And it did seem like one. Until... My problems with the flick start with the script and the editing. Things happen in this script that just take me out of the movie. This crew is the best that money can buy? They do things that scientists on an important and dangerous expedition would never do. "We just landed on a strange new world, everybody out! Jump in the big scary all-terrain bus and assorted ATVs and floor it straight at the Engineer's temples." 'Cuz nothing says, "We come in peace." like a spaceship landing in your front yard, dropping down a ramp and launching some ATVs at high speed straight at you like they're the space-police or something! "Yo, Dudes! We're from Earth! Howdy! Watch me cut some doughnuts in your yard! WOO! HOO!!" And then the science guy pops his helmet at the drop of a hat. (Is that a pun?) The 2 other "specialists" get lost, even though the captain has them on the fancy 3D hologram map, and decide to make camp in the room with the creepy as fuck oozing containers, even though they got lost in the first place because they were scared of the place and wanted to go back to the ship! Then these 2 scaredy-cats decide to play snuggle bunnies with the Fucking Spacecobra from Hell! It doesn't go well. This kind of logic happens over and over in the movie. Usually, this kind of behavior is seen in slasher flicks as teenagers do stupid things that get them killed at Camp Crystal Lake. Every time it pulled me out of the movie. And I kept wondering why this was left in the script and who put it in there in the first place. The old guy popping up and no reaction from whats left of the crew. Shaw escaping from them, having the robo-abortion, and then showing back up half-naked and bloody and they act like, "Oh, look. It's Shaw. Have you met the old dude?" "Ah, hi Mr. Weyland. Nobody ask me why I'm all bloody or if there's a squid-thing growing in the other room. I'm not telling." I did laugh when Vickers buys it. It was like a Homer Simpson Doughnut Nightmare! "AHHH! Stop chasing me! Stop!! No! No!! NOOO!!!!" *CRUNCH!* "DOH!" Don't get me started about the last 5 minutes. I just hope she brought something for lunch with her. Engineers eat crap. And the last scene. Whatever. The editing of the movie felt like it was rushed. Like they were trying to get all this stuff in and had to get it in 2 hours. It feels like there's a longer version of this movie somewhere. Reminds me of Kingdom of Heaven and the Director's Cut that came later. I think the Director's Cut was 30-45 minutes longer. I wanted to like this. I drove almost 50 miles one way Thursday night to get to the AMC Palace 20 in New Orleans to see this in Imax 3D for the 12:01 show. I got there early and had a good seat. Sat there over an hour waiting. It was a long ride back home. Well, let's hope there's a Director's Cut or something. I think I heard that this is the Director's Cut. Some interview somewhere. Oh, well...
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June 9, 2012, 7:40 p.m. CST
'Yo, Dudes! We're from Earth! Howdy! Watch me cut some doughnuts in your yard! WOO! HOO!!' LMAO! l.h.
by adeceasedfan
I understand some of your (and many others) complaints, but I just went with it and had a hell of a time. Logic be damned. The end felt tacked on, but many theorize it was a queen which I didn't get at first though agree with in hindsight. Sorry about your trek, mine was a bit easier. 2D viewing about 5 minutes from the house.
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I'm actually glad I let the generally negative comments from early viewers temper my expectations, because I thought "Prometheus" was great. I found it satisfyingly creepy and, for the first time in a long, long time, I thought the special effects were outstanding and pretty much seamless. I thought it was a great marriage of "Alien" and "The Thing" -- perhaps my two all-time favorite horror movies. Add the origins of humankind angle, and you have a really excellent piece of film. That's just my opinion, and certainly everyone is allowed their own opinion, but I really can't see how any "Alien" fan wouldn't greatly enjoy "Prometheus." My only complaint is Guy Pearce as an old man. Certainly not the worst makeup work I've ever seen, but why was it necessary to have a relatively young man play a 90-year-old man? I can think of any number of 70- or even 60-year-old actors who would have been much more believable in the role. Really the only gripe I have about "Prometheus," and it's not even that big a deal.
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... I hope some of you call in with this stuff. 1/2 hour till air...
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June 9, 2012, 9:42 p.m. CST
The Engineers were just a small group of alien teens who were fucking around and one of them impregnates a planet and now they are in cover-up mode
by Dirk_The_Amoeba
I got fucked up one night and did same thing but big daddy face hugger never caught me
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You and I are on the same page. Many are not. That's fine. I'm looking forward to hearing all points of view.
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June 9, 2012, 9:47 p.m. CST
Decontructing Prometheus, by the Well Hung Amoeba - yeah I posted in another thread but what the hell
by Dirk_The_Amoeba
Some roided-up alien bald headed dude seems to be doing something foolish and apparently suicidal that results in some alien splooge that creates life on what may or may not be earth. Just reading the tea leaves it seems he did this on his own and against the wishes of his boys (didn't see any chicks but aliens all look allike any way) who nevertheless comeback a few millennia later to check on the results and decide to become the worlds first assholes by leaving unexplained clues with now ancient but then very young and impressionable cultures that they must have known would spawn all kinds of conspiracy theories. Yeah, I can see them chuckling all the way back to Xyratyoebalclazxx!%97gffathe-Tau in their ships -'we really fucked with them didn't we Melvin? Yeah Xorphuse they will tie their shit pipes (we did give then shit pipes right?) in knots for milennia trying to figure that blorphon out' So back on BBM (big blue marble) some eggheads gather the clues and on basis of five star like things painted on a a few ceilings they are able to determine it is a star system (and amidst the billions of galaxies and trillions of stars) are able to locate it! Then, they are able to convince some dying multi-trillionaire asshole who wants to live forever to fund a trip to the stars on the off off off off off waaaayy off chance that they find the critters who are responsible for creating among other things, pet rocks and rush limbaugh, and convince them to grant him everlasting life. Why not, what else has he got to lose? And somehow they manage to find these critters , all dead BTW, on a moon. Amidst Androidinal and possibly human treachery although that possible human could also be an android harkening back to Blade Runner replicant or not replicant days cause Ridley just loves fucking with fanboys who he knows will latch onto pointless plot devices like a fly onto shit or a lemming to a cliff, and beat it to death when no one else gives a shit. Somehow the surviving egghead deduces that the alien critters aint exactly thrilled with how their lil experiment a few billion years ago turned out (maybe they were just a small group of alien teens who were fucking around and one of them impregnates a planet and now they are in cover-up mode?) so they go to a moon - the one so conveniently depicted on some ceilings, to pickup some planet killing shit, but the planet killing shit kills them instead. Except one alien critter is alive and somehow the surviving egghead who had very little on screen face time interaction with the captain of the earth ship that would seem to be needed to engender deep trust, still manages to convince the captain that he must destroy the alien ship - sacrificing his own life and two others onboard, just because she says so. Uh, huh. Hey, it aint a bad movie, plot wise it reminds me of Roger Corman at his best. And it is damn perty, but yeah its stupid. But at least it looks good
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The reason for Pearce in that horrible old man makeup seems to be that in any sequel or offshoot, they can always have flashbacks to when he was younger for whatever reason because audiences are clamoring for the untold story of Weyland
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Haven't really seen this show, but heard a lot of good things here. Probably the best thing that's happened for me this weekend. Got it at Bestbuy because I needed to get a new phone. I busted the old phone Friday due to a foul mood brought on by lack of sleep from going the 12:01 movie, seeing the movie, my dogs getting they're leashes tangled, and getting an annoying phone call while trying to separate the dogs. Snap! I got half a phone in this hand and half in the other. So, anyway, I hope Game of Thrones is good.
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... let's light this fucking candle...
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Same here ... GOT, not the phone thing. The final shot of the last ep is tres cool.
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June 9, 2012, 10:07 p.m. CST
drmorbius - I got GOT right here still in it's plastic wrap.
by L.H.Puttgrass
Any idea when the 2nd season comes out. I seen that the 2nd season just finished.
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Hello everyone!
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Don't mean to harp on it, but maaaaahan. That's a loud hum. Someone needs to check some connections. Hope the show is great for you guys! Bunheads was actually REALLY good.
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Was actually really, really good. Just blows me away that a show like THAT entertained me SO well. Loved the characters. Then... BOOM They killed my favorite character. (won't say who) I'll still watch because I think the talent in the show (as well as behind it) is incredible.
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Hi!! No, I see Prometheus tomorrow at 1:40 pm.
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gotilk HODOR!!!
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HODOR!!!
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Special discount for customers who show their social security checks? ROFL!! I kid, I kid.
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he may have a liable case against starbucks for not having "Caution: Hot" labeled
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June 9, 2012, 10:16 p.m. CST
gotilk - Believe me. The less you know, the more chance you have of enjoying the movie.
by L.H.Puttgrass
Listening to this show may kinda ruin it for you. Sad but true.
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June 9, 2012, 10:17 p.m. CST
15 mins. into a 2 hour show, wasting time on Starbucks! WTF!!!
by DrMorbius
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June 9, 2012, 10:17 p.m. CST
prometheus...Prometheus?...PrometheuS?! FUCKING PROMETHEUS!!
by bluebalrog
not as bad a letdown as Phantom Menace, but about on par with Matrix Revolutions disappointing...
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it's what they're made to call it......It's just a rule....just like Chik Fil A always has to say "My Pleasure"
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Star Trek?
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Everyone has those moments. I had someone at a hospital cafeteria put my order of fries on top of my foam container that had my dad's sandwich in it. I walked to a table to set them both down to avoid the fries falling off.... and the fries slid off the container, landing on the table of a couple of nurses or something having their lunch. EVERYTHING fell out all over their food. The sandwich, the fries, everything. I apologized and helped them clean up and they treated me like I was some drunk asshole that had no control over his motor functions. Fact was.... the bottom of the fries had like this..... weird buttery crap all over it. From the chef. Not me. I tried to show it to the nurses and they just ignored me (why????) so I went back to the chef and he tried to ignore me but I insisted he come closer and look at what HE had done and... caused. They gave me a new sandwich and fries. No charge. But... 1. I was not sure what bodily fluids were in the sandwich at this point. 2. I still felt like an asshole as the nurses gave me this eat crap and die look as I walked back out again. Soo... I guess what I'm trying to say is... Don't feel too bad about it. Everyone has that moment. It's NOT fair. Not cool. And it's not your fault. But that's just the way it goes. It sucks.
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June 9, 2012, 10:24 p.m. CST
buckethead50 - Yeah, I told welivestill...ornot that, "I see you've taken buckethead50's advice."
by L.H.Puttgrass
He shot back at me, "As far as your comment about buckethead50... LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!" He says he liked it. Quite a bit.
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June 9, 2012, 10:25 p.m. CST
Sweet he's playing the tune from Aliens that was recycled from Wrath of Khan.
by Shermdawg
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I have to use that now, probably in reference somehow to genitals.
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SO sad I'll be missing that.
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I always felt that it was a rip off of the Klingon music from Search For Spock!
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Had to do that in caps because it felt manic. Fun stuff. Just kiddin.
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When will ep 2 be on?
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facehugger, how giant do you mean? Like... man sized? Or more like..... giant giant... like 40 feet tall?
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And I mean giant giant. Like a 50 foot bunhead.
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That dwong dwoong dwong thing is awesome. Like a plucked bass piano string or something.
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sounds almost like a rip-off of the music from Disney's The Black Hole?
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The Prometheus score reminded me a lot of Star Trek Generations. Not in a good way...
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was in a kind of crappy movie called Mirror Mirror. But then again, maybe that's just how Julia Roberts looks without makeup.
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Are you playing Oregon Trail again at your station?? I hope you die of dysentary.
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because on young justice, shit just got real
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I've seen lots of old folks, but none even remotely that prunefaced!
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I think someone I know spoiled most of it already. Sadly. So I'll be okay.
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"The other night though, I did find some Bunhead tracks out by Fred's farmhouse." "He's been losing chickens and asked if I could help. So right now I'm out getting bait." "What? Yes Ma'am, I'll have 4 buckets of the Colonel's extra crispy. Thank you much." "Them fuckers won't have a chance tonight when I set my traps with these. Mmmm, that's good chicken."
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was the addition of what they called *those stupid space marine fucks*. I disagreed, but I heard that a LOT. I think they hated their assumed *haunted house alien* franchise turned into an action movie.
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I was just wondering....
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silly shermdawg
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Head to the archives. A Dark Knight Rises producer was interviewed weeks ago
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June 9, 2012, 10:50 p.m. CST
I think if anything was *betrayed* by the films that followed Alien
by gotilk
...it was the way Alien took its time to tell its story. The way it sort of drew you into almost a slumber-like mood/pace.... and then hit you in the face with flashing lights, action... fast pace. It's all very simple to me. Hell, it even had a heartbeat in the soundtrack that slowly sped up during part of the film. Ridley proved himself to be a master of that sort of thing, and I think ALL of the films that followed failed at coming close to that. Of course, if they HAD done that exact same thing, they would have been accused of aping the original. So in the end, it's probably better that we didn't get just another of the same kind of film. None of the other Alien universe films came close to the moodiness and patient pacing of the original. I get a sense that, at least on some level, Ridley Scott tried to deliver that kind of pacing again with this film. I have not seen it yet, so I cannot testify to that being true. I'm just assuming based on what I've heard/read.
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LOVED Contact. One of my favorites and had one of the creepiest villains I've ever hated and wanted to die immediately.
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June 9, 2012, 10:53 p.m. CST
drmorbius - The fake TED video that Weyland does is set in 2023.
by L.H.Puttgrass
It's the viral video on the internet. On it he looks like he is not aged at all. So he looks 40 or so. If that's true, then add about 70 years to get to 2093. So I guess he's about 110 years old.
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and I'm only referring to the first two (because i'm still holding out hope that there's gonna be a future movie where Ripley wakes up from hypersleep, and the last two movies were a terrible cryodream!) has always been perfunctory in the first half, but the catalyst of a life threatening event, and on a bigger scale, threatening to humanity as a species, has always brought a distinct focus and reason to characters' motivations in the last half, and there was a cohesiveness to the events leading to each movie's resolution...imo
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Instead of just a straight Alien prequel. That would have just been..... sadder. Even if this movie end up being considered a failure, even by me, I think it was the right move.
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June 9, 2012, 10:56 p.m. CST
Who is this breathless, babbling person? I tuned in late.
by MisterManReturns
Mr. KERN?
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Pretty sure that's basically what i just said. But maybe there was a typo?
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I want to ask a profound question that deals with what is being discussed tonight......sadly, I have no interest in Prometheus since Ive never seen an Alien movie, or rather, Im not a Ridley Scott fan.
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June 9, 2012, 10:57 p.m. CST
Thanks LH, life expectancy must be aroun 120 in this time frame.
by DrMorbius
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I see now, I said that in a previous post.
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Hey man, welcome to you too!! :)
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I am abstaining form taking a piece of your heart apart....mainly because I have no interest in seeing Prometheus......I'll wait 20 yrs until it becomes a classic.
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it was always obvious to me that Cameron was going for an action film rather than straight horror, and *I* actually loved it, appreciated the change. But OTHERS have criticized it for that.
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only after she fell did she roll to the side, and as big as that ship was, she'd have to roll for ten minutes to get out of harms way!
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June 9, 2012, 11:01 p.m. CST
I finally figured out who is who - not familiar with show.
by MisterManReturns
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The Alien series is sort of a precursor to the MI series in that respect, with each movie being tailored to the Director's strengths.
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Can't know. I know that NO-ONE considered Blade Runner to be a future classic film. Not even its fans. I was there opening night and some people even walked out. I saw it at one of the last dome cinemas, when it still had one half dome that hadn't been broken up into smaller screening rooms. I remember being just... enthralled... and pretty much alone. No-one I watched it with besides a friend that had come with his parents thought it was great. Everyone else thought it sucked or was okay. But I'm used to that.
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I'll be back after the break. I know everyone was dying to know that.
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He's not very original. *Titanic* A movie based on a true story *Avatar* Pocahontas in Space *Terminator* Time Traveling Frankenstein *Aliens* sequel to Alien *Dark Angel* female genetic assassin already done
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Yeah I guess that's true. My favorite MI film so far is still DePalma's though. I think I'm in a very small group. Even though that latest was pretty stunning, I thought DePalma just... got it right.
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June 9, 2012, 11:08 p.m. CST
am totally confused, thought you meany the conyact post ...
by DrMorbius
not the Aliens.
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Did he go too far with it, or did it work?
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Is he an atheist????? http://www.thewrap.com/tv/article/morgan-freeman-inventing-god-aliens-eating-us-and-his-odds-surviving-dark-knight-rises-42886
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June 9, 2012, 11:09 p.m. CST
Back in 1986, I was in Orlando, Fla. and very tired after long day on the base (It's not there anymore. It was closed. Looks like a subdivision now.).
by L.H.Puttgrass
So anyway, after a hard day of Navy stuff I felt like seeing a movie. The Fly was playing in 70mm so I went to see it. I don't know if it was me being tired or it wrong mood or both. That movie threw me for a loop! Everything was way over the top and gross and I don't know what! I just hated it! During the next few days I kept thinking I missed something or just didn't get it. I felt I had to see it again. I saw it again. Fully rested and feeling good. Best. Movie. Ever. So, lesson learned. I try not to see a movie if I'm in a bad mood or whatever.
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That's EXACTLY what the people who hated It's A Wonderful Life said... lol... Just joshin' man. Hate it all you want.
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Mr. KERN- @ASKMRKERN Hercules The Strong- @hercAICN Stefani Dias- @realstefanidias Mike- @michaelarmendariz
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great in 300!!! Anyone remember his character?
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Loyal, fun, great at frisbee, easily made happy with simple treats, sometimes craps on the floor.
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I guess that's what life is all about right now
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Thanks, man.
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I have TV in my Carpet Cave.
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Rumor has it that Channing Tatum knows nothing about reshoots. http://www.hisstank.com/gi-joe-news/gi-joe-movie-2/channing-tatum-doesnt-know-about-his-involvement-for-retaliation-reshoots-11408/
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I've dreamed of those things.
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also in the archives. we talked to someone who saw it.
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yeh man, I even called in. Just wondered about any updates on the status of the project.
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June 9, 2012, 11:21 p.m. CST
I dunno... if you want immortality and you have unlimited funds (spoiler)
by gotilk
wouldn't you have a better chance at achieving it by investing in medical and computer tech? More reliable than some alien species that you know nothing about. That could see you as a human sees an ant? If it were me, I would put enough money into Alcor so that they would come closer to perfecting preservation, then be sure that going forward you have a self-sustaining trust that would pay for ongoing research in tech, biotech and computing? That's just me.
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Them's fightin' words, sir. lol
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Empire was everything Star Wars needed to keep it alive!
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Again, referring to genitalia.
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Awesome. I'd like mine animal style please.
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Wow. We hear his voice! Nice.
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Sharing a slackburger with my poodle in the Carpet Cave.
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WHAT??????? Someone explain the significance of Christianity and Prometheus!!!!!
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(Sorry - just watched "Trollhunter")
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I had no idea that Ridley Scott connected the story so deeply with Christianity. That's fascinating and maybe even a little frustrating.
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but when you get me on the phone... dump button city.
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Virginia
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Was raised Christian. Still hold on to the faith in many ways but not a religious nut. I Love it when it is mixed in to movie mythos.....ala The Matrix. Anyone ever seen Ancient Astronauts from Planet X??? its a documentary....very unique and thought provoking!
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Not sure. I'll check. Screen printing, sure. But I don't know if I have embroidery needs.
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Since it connects to Christianity!
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Yeah, I can't get enough of that stuff. I read all the Chariots of the Gods type books when I was a kid. Favorite was Gold of the Gods. Those documentaries suck me in every time.
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June 9, 2012, 11:35 p.m. CST
I didn't catch the Christ connection, but it's been mentioned in several tb's.
by adeceasedfan
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WE HAVE TO WAIT A FRIGGEN YEAR!!!! GAHD!!
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/highfive
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yeh!!! the Ancient Astronauts from Planet X suggests that Jesus was an alien from a 10th planet that comes into our solar system ever so often. Check it out on Netflix Streaming!
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As if he needs advice from me.... But here it is anyway. Never, ever write anything that involves explaining the beginning of man, the end of man, or meeting God, or anything closely related to God-like characters. It's so hard to write yourself out of those corners.
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for making fun of her
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used a lot of Christianity references in LOST!
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A lot of us, I take it. Weird.
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Finally. Best week so far, guys. Win!
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I was gettin' into it.
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because this isnt a counseling session!
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and a movie.
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June 9, 2012, 11:46 p.m. CST
buckethead .. needed to call in earlier ... almost outta time.
by DrMorbius
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It is NEEDED!!
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There was even a "Snow White and the 3 Stooges" once.......and then they all died. :(
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Let them know that if you ever drive through Kern county you will... 1. Watch the hell out for cops, they love givin' tickets there. 2. Visit the Carpet Cave, BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE in Kern county.
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are you on the show, or just talk back?
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I miss it
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Hands up, indeed. I guess that gave them some character :)
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You did great, even though they cut you off before you could get to the meat of your call sammich.
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June 9, 2012, 11:49 p.m. CST
Should Del Toro still make At the Mountains of Madness.
by L.H.Puttgrass
Because he has said that because of this movie he isn't making At the Mountains of Madness. I think he should make it. Make it now Del Toro!
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June 9, 2012, 11:50 p.m. CST
lol! buckethead50...you were getting a nice head of steam built up there man!
by bluebalrog
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A WHOLE FRIGGEN YEAR!!!!!!
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But still.
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aka, soft core porn?
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not as fantastic as first season's finale, but in comparison to the rest of the season before it, it was pretty awesome!
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If they had shot this season back to back with the next. I imagine the real big foreshadowing would have been expensive?
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When vacating the temple, Holloway yells "David, we are LEAVING" in the same manner as the "Marines, we are LEAVING" line from Aliens.
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...the thing is, there are SO many grey areas in the book, and the producers are stepping in and fleshing out that connective tissue.
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I still have heard of this *Red Wedding* and have no REAL idea what happens there. But I'll be getting there with the books soon I'm sure.
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They hung up on you on purpose...just to watch you get pissed off and rant more on here.....no respect!!!
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Talk about stuff I like. Jk. ;)
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I have not seen the movie and what you just wrote there about investing in immortality makes more sense than what I've heard he did in the film. Seems dumb. If it were me, I'd invest in biotech, computers and just general technology.
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click
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LOL. I just had to.
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June 10, 2012, midnight CST
lol, you guys couldn't wait to get the fuck out of there...
by Shermdawg
...someone threw their headphones down and Herc hung up.
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Now CHOO CHOOOOOO it's back on the stop Obama express!!!
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June 10, 2012, 12:03 a.m. CST
Herc, this is the best part of aintitcool news, handsdown bro!
by bluebalrog
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I heard the distinct sound of a phone hanging up and a mic picking up something slamming down. Did someone piss someone off? Even if not, it could be good for the show to pretend that someone pissed someone off. Worked for Stern for years.
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Now I have something to do every Sat night after work!
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And I LOVE the DocBacks. So it's hard for me to say it, but I just have SO much fun here every Saturday.
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this would be TB number 1.
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Unfortunately Prometheus is one of the few things that interest me enough to speak my mind. So it might be awhile before you hear from me. Unless y'all start covering Survivor and it's as infuriating as last season was.
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(see previous posts for discomfort)
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Ha, we're actually all still sitting here! Thanks again, guys. Again, if you feel the need to Read more from us on Twitter, you can find us at Mr. KERN- @ASKMRKERN Hercules The Strong- @hercAICN Stefani Dias- @realstefanidias Mike- @michaelarmendariz
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June 10, 2012, 12:08 a.m. CST
I think I might try to see this again. Just for shit and giggles.
by L.H.Puttgrass
The Fly threw me for a loop the first I saw it. Then it was great the second time. I don't think Prometheus will get any better, but it is an interesting failure...
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Buenos noches.
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Thanks for another great show and great time.
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Beanos nachos to you too, sir.
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June 10, 2012, 12:11 a.m. CST
re drmorbius...I didnt understand what you said, so I wasnt sure how to answer
by Jonathan
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-18298709
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Thanks to all you talkbackers -- those who call and those who just type -- for all the interest and support. Very exciting!
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June 10, 2012, 12:14 a.m. CST
re drmorbius...thought you might be in the room w/ KERN and Herc
by Jonathan
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June 10, 2012, 12:15 a.m. CST
re Herc -absolutely!!! It's great to have a show such as this!
by Jonathan
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June 10, 2012, 12:15 a.m. CST
Wait....wasn't there supposed to be a Prometheus giveaway of some sorts?
by Shermdawg
Or did my ears deceive me?
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I was ragging on them for wasting time with the Starbucks stoty. Later.
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The way Hannibal wasn't a sequel to The Silence of the Lambs! I wouldn't know what else to call it, though Scott's argument that it takes place in the same universe and shares DNA with the Alien series makes more sense in hindsight...
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I do, indeed, have a shiny Weyland Industries business card that we'll give away in the future. It was part of this year's promotional blitz at WonderCon. I apologize for not fitting it in tonight! That's what she said.
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Given the only thing that really ties into Alien storywise is the events of 2,000 years ago (in Prometheus), I can see where he's coming from. Seriously, next film will open with the classic Jockey crashing on LV-426 via flashback and time will pass until the camera pans up to the sky and we see Shaw's commandeered Jockey ship on her way to their homeworld. It's its own story, but gives history to the trilogy that follows it. (Fuck Resurrection.)
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June 10, 2012, 12:25 a.m. CST
Herc - Ridley was saying in that clip that Prometheus is not a direct prequel to Alien because...
by L.H.Puttgrass
... he says that it will take at least two more prequels before you would get to Alien. So it's not a prequel because the next movie after Prometheus would not be Alien. I think the next movie will be called, "Have Head in Bag, Will Travel.".
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June 10, 2012, 12:27 a.m. CST
gotilk - woof! ;) starting to look like i have something else to do on saturday nights besides trawlling for cougars at me local waterin' hole!
by bluebalrog
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Just have her put it on a walking stick or some shit.
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June 10, 2012, 12:32 a.m. CST
WAIT!!!! didnt David Kill Shaw in that X-Men Movie? "I'm going to count to 3 and move the coin"
by Jonathan
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June 10, 2012, 12:32 a.m. CST
David should carry his head around ala Re-Animator's Dr.Hill.
by adeceasedfan
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"... on a steeeck!"
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"... on a STEEEECK!"
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June 10, 2012, 12:41 a.m. CST
I really do want a sequel. **spoiler** (if we're not beyond that point)
by adeceasedfan
The shot of the Shaw and David taking off was one of my favorite things. I could only imagine the possibilities. I really wish they had left it at that without the chestburster bit.
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"... on a steeeeck!"
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how the Engineers/ Space Jockeys looked like even more albino versions of the terribly shitty CGI vampire mutants from I AM LEGEND? Couldn't shake the similarities throughout the whole movie.
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They reminded me of non-mutated Tyrants from Resident Evil.
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June 10, 2012, 12:53 a.m. CST
Aw shit, did I unknowingly come up with an idea similar to a Dunham bit?
by Shermdawg
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STEEEEEEEEEEEK!!
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It's been fun, and it's been real. But... It's also been fun for my poodle. woof.
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Probably not, but I had to try.
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"Would you like to hear it?" "Okay. Dai-sey. Dai-sey. Shaw put my head on a steeeck!" "I'm half cra-zy. Because it's shorting out my frigging neck servos! Arghh!!!" "Shit! I hate her!"
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June 10, 2012, 1:08 a.m. CST
Okay, If I start watching the Game of Thrones Season 1 Blu-ray set right now.
by L.H.Puttgrass
Will I get any sleep tonight? At all?
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Charlize Theron and Noomi Rapace in those spacesuits.
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June 10, 2012, 1:37 a.m. CST
mr spork - I think you mean the part where Charlize is all sweaty, scantly clad, and doing pushups.
by L.H.Puttgrass
I think that's what you mean. Because that's what I mean.
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That was friggen HILARIOUS!!! Shit I hate her. LOL Genius!! Glad I came back one extra time for that alone.
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Yeah, that too.
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Leaving the studio: Yes, there was a headphone hitting the mike, but it was not out of anger. In fact, we all had a great time with the show and Stef, Mike, and I sat around the studio for about an hour after talking shit. The coffee story: A waste of time? Perhaps, but we will talk about what we will talk about. Deal with it. Callers and posters: Thanks for all the support... even if you don't agree with what we say or do. ESPECIALLY the brave souls that called in. I'll always give you cats a fair shot at getting shit off your chests. We don't bite, but I won't promise to not make fun of you. Third Hour: We are trying. Believe me. Goodnight, sweet, savage animals. I'll see you next week. :p
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I think you missed everything. You got responses from some people including welivestill...ornot. Oh. And I think there was a show. On the internet. From Bakersfield. In California. U.S.A. 1180 AM Radio. Ask Mr. K.E.R.N. Saturdays. 8-10PM PST
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It just popped in my head and onto my keyboard.
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June 10, 2012, 9:04 a.m. CST
I encourage all tber's to listen in live. It makes for a fun Saturday night.
by adeceasedfan
I have no life. :(
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I always check back here the next morning, for some reason. The coffee story was fine! You're not sweating it, but I'll still say *don't sweat it*. It was a real story. I've been there. It sucks. And I found it entertaining. Man, I have GOT to find a way to reduce the insanity around here for a couple of hours a week. Just so I can call in. What do you suggest we do to help you get that third hour? E-mail the station? And I meant to ask this a while ago, but forgot... Has anyone at the station, or the site, noticed the size of the audience growing during your show? Are the numbers of streams through the roof yet? They should be. I was just curious. I hope your local ratings are through the roof, but I hope even more that your international ratings are even better. I think you may have something special here.
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Hour number 3. Hour number 3. Number 3, Number 3, Number 3... #3. #3. #3. The same key. #. 3. I'll be listening til 1 am CST but I don't care. #3. #3. #3. The same key. #. 3. #3. #3. #3. The same key. #. 3. #3. #3. #3. The same key. #. 3. This means something... ...something important. Hour number 3. "... gonna build a moun-taaain!..." "...in my living rooooom!..." "... gonna build a moun-taaain!..." "...and it's gonna be keeeeen!..." "CE3K - The Musical"
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Late night/weekend ratings in radio are sort of like bigfoot. They might be there, but no one knows for sure. I am really not allowed to say much more than that. We are watching the traffic on the askmrkern.com site and I will be checking in with our stations web master to see if there is a blip on that radar. There are things moving and shifting (in a positive way) around here and I am keeping my fingers crossed that a third hour will be coming soon. Finally... thank you for the kind words and support. That goes for all of you... puttgrass, buckethead, shermdawg, etc. Everyone involved with the show believes we have something special going on here too. You keep listening and we'll keep babbling like idiots. ;)
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... and off the Absolute.
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Radio no longer covers an area just measured in megawatts. The internet and podcasts can be everywhere.
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It's what I heard, several years ago, throughout an AICN screening/Q & A in Austin. Listen, went through the whole film school thing, under (prod) and grad (criticism) - so understand the excitement generated by film.
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A website and a radio program combining together in a mutually beneficial way to create an interactive radio experience. It's just so damn cool! A website in Austin, TX. A radio program in Bakersfield, CA. Egon in Las Vegas, NV. And me in Louisiana and various others from... ... any and everywhere! I love it!
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then all you talkbacking pricks can go fuck yourselves. It's a shame that Hollywood is listening to you at all. You stupid cocks are never happy. If a film is not "perfect" you demand filmmakers to stop making films, and for some reason, they sometimes listen. I only hope the gross on the film is good enough that we get a back-to-back sequel made for the next chapter. I can forgive a few flaws if a film ultimately kicks my ass. Prometheus kicked my ass. I really am getting sick of you 14 year olds going on 40, Please, kill yourselves so we can get better insurance rates and so the trees can have more air to breathe.
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I hear ya. But for me is it the opposite? On the Absolut and off the medication?? Wait, what??
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Wish em luck. Will come back with my thoughts.
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October 1, 1990, according to the link given in the end credits: WeylandIndustries.com/Timeline.</p><p>That means he's 103 during the events of Prometheus. 2093, right?</p><p>There's a lot of interesting stuff in that timeline including the cure for cancer in 2022.
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I understand some of the criticisms, but I also see a couple of them as positives. I don't want all the answers handed to me. Overall, the awesomeness of the film went far and above any and all flaws. The 3d was both perfection and at a certain point... almost invisible... forgotten. But very much needed. The beginning of the film was breathtaking. I did not see it at an IMAX, but watched it on one of the XD screens. Large but not IMAX by any stretch of the imagination. The audio was outstanding as well. Loved David, the Engineers. A few of the ancillary characters were pretty undeveloped. But would you have wanted them to spend that precious time on those people? I didn't. It FEELS like it has a 3 hour cut in it. Like.... there's already a 3 hour version out there, waiting for blu ray. When people say what a difference physical sets make... boy are they right in this case. Some of the best sets I've ever seen, if not THE best. I liked being left asking myself.... why the maps.. and WHO the maps? Those are some big questions right there. If the engineers inspired the maps, why? If the maps were drawn by men who were not inspired by Engineers but instead drew them as a kind of warning, from memory? How? These are small questions with huge possible answers. The Engineers were creatures that appreciated beauty, were supremely intelligent but just as careless as we are. The whole star map thing had a deeply musical feeling to me. I could sit there and imagine another group somewhere in the universe with a competing/different ship/star map thing..... with perhaps fewer failures, more elegance. Less need for scorched *earth* do-overs. Less need for bio-engineered weapons systems. Even if I'm way off, I kind of was amused by the idea that our world could have been created by the hacks. The flunkies. The punk-rock band of Engineering groups. They obviously worked in groups. I hear a lot of talk about how this all got people thinking deeply, but with very few people willing to take the leap and actually explain what they took from it for fear of ridicule. I give this movie an A+. I may be going against the grain, but there it is. There was too much greatness in it for me to focus on some bad old age makeup, or frustration with some aspect of the story going unexplained. There was too much awesome to dwell on the seemingly sudden tonal shift from hard sci-fi to hard horror. The shift actually worked for me because that's where it HAD to go. AND I loved the end. I would have loved to watch 2 more hours of the Rapace and Fassbender show, however.
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I think that might actually be pretty accurate. But the pretty pictures are SO pretty.... I can forgive a LOT.
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for like... an hour. That Prometheus talkback is dying fast.
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is 8 more posts.
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But technically I guess still 8 to top it.
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match it.
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It's just fun. Heaven forbid.
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Sadly, I'm not that forgiving.
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What is the translation of what David says to the revived Engineer? What language? Like a mixture, or is it similar to what he was saying during his language lesson? It almost.... almost seems like he reminds the Engineer of something, or gives him a clue as to his visitor's origins... and considering his destination and TASK...... he might have taken the whole thing the wrong way. Fascinating moment to me.
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And man couldn't it have just kept going.
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One thing that is nagging me, and it's not a criticism of the film. It's a criticism of a character. What was Weyland thinking? What was his plan? *Hello creator, mind if you make me immortal and stuff?* It really seemed along those lines. He was pretty much like a little kid saying *tell him ___ and and and then like umm.. tell him he's awesome... and can I live forever and stuff??? Now say it!!* That's a lot of dough to spend without a real plan and some big minds working on what to do in that very moment. As well as lots of rehearsal. Have you seen what lawyers do to prepare for cases sometimes? It's insane. I think it is possible that David said either... *He's here to steal your magic.* (bad wording) Or gobbledegook. Or maybe he recognized EXACTLY what David was and THAT pissed him off on some level. We have no idea what these *people* hold sacred. I think Ridley knew exactly what he was doing with that moment and I find it brilliant. It's so brilliant that I even considered that David had already communicated with the Engineer in a similar way to how he read the dreams of Noomi. That he was perhaps lied to? Oh and speaking of *the magic*, was that an ad I saw before the film for a live in theater broadcast of The Tempest with Christopher Plummer? I thought he hated mics/cameras in stage productions.
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Elaboration. When I say *he was lied to*, I mean David could have been lied to in order to get him to set him free (The Engineer) .... early?
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Nice theory on David + Engineer communicating. I am skewing towards the opinion that The Engineer was offended by what David was, but the possibilities make a return viewing essential.
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I cannot find the post now, so I'll address it here. Someone asked why they had vials and vials of the black goo when the main room was full of the stuff. That's easy to explain. In the main room, it had escaped. Might have even multiplied very quickly once exposed in a certain way. I've also noticed a complaint about why they would want to leave a message with directions, and if they didn't leave the message, how did the ancient humans come across the specific star chart information? I like that question, but in the sense that I'm happy that the film lets YOU ask it and does not answer. My imagination will come up with a better answer. Or multiple possible answers.
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Yeah I agree that seems more likely.
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June 11, 2012, 1:16 p.m. CST
senditback_needsmoretatum -- no one cares about your juvenile negativity- who is going to win next year's Kentucky Derby, Criswell? that would matter...
by Michael Lunney
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what are you fucking new, you have every kid in america has had mikey ds and cartoon networks shoving madagascar 3 down there little thtoats.
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it drives so much. Finance. Movies. John Carter had one of the biggest openings in cinema history, worldwide. Perception. Fact is, Prometheus is outperforming most R rated films. With the exception of a couple of comedies. But if the perception ends up that it was a failure... then well... you all get what you deserve. Fewer films made for grown ups that don't involve dick jokes and a few tits here and there. Hey!! Just 2 more days till Saturday!! I can't believe I came back to this talkback. Hahaha!!
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June 14, 2012, 11:25 p.m. CST
gotilk - Me too. I'll pop back here from time to time to see if there's been any new posts.
by L.H.Puttgrass
I think I'm gonna try to see Prometheus again. Just for shits and giggles. When I first seen The Fly in 70mm I thought it was way over the top and just plain awful. I was in a bad mood and tired. So I just didn't get it. The next few days I kept thinking about it. Thinking I missed something. Finally, I went see it again. BIG DIFFERENCE! Awesome Movie! What was i thinking? I would love to be that kind of wrong again with Prometheus.
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