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Episode 10 of AICwHK: this week, Phil Tippett discusses MAD GOD & the Rancor, Albert Nozaki & WAR OF THE WORLDS plus you see me geek on PROMETHEUS!

Hey folks, Harry here...  This was sort of a magic episode.   For one, Phil Tippett came in to join us in the basement, have a little fun and chat about MAD GOD and anything else we wanted.  Hope he gets to come back, we really want to do an episode where we just talk Harryhausen.   That'll be nice.   Also this episode, I also had to geek out on PROMETHEUS, just because it's that good.  I taped this the morning after having seen it, but before I wrote my review.  I love just how enthusiastic I am about the film.   Also, the film documentary SOMETHING'S GONNA LIVE - which is a tremendous documentary about 3 lifelong friends that basically became Paramount's Art Department for the greatest years of that company.   I focus on Albert Nozaki's story mainly because I love his personal story and his view of it.   It's kind of amazing really.   But specifically Nozaki was the Art Director on WAR OF THE WORLDS - which gave me an excuse to play with my electromagnetic floating Martian War Machine, which just rules all!  There's an interesting story about how that Kong Bomb or Kongrenade as Father Geek calls it....  About how it got from Forry to me... but that's a story for another episode.  This episode - the team here really kicked ass all over the place.  We really killed ourselves finishing it.   I didn't get the final cut til 2:50am.  Well, got to get some sleep before tomorrow's shoot.

The fun we had making this show was truly the best.  We're brainstorming up some fun stuff.  But here's this week's episode...  This is my fave so far...  If you enjoy, please like and share the video, we sure would appreciate it!  Here ya go:



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  • June 7, 2012, 9:38 a.m. CST

    by gregmss

    First?

  • June 7, 2012, 9:50 a.m. CST

    Interview was good but...

    by Kloipy

    watching a grown man play with toys really is just 1 level above wrist-slitting depression. And the forced cursing is honestly grating. I still have no idea what tone this show is going for. Is it for kids? Man-children? It smacks as a last ditch effort to keep this site alive. Watching more than a few minutes between the interview honestly makes me sad.

  • June 7, 2012, 9:52 a.m. CST

    yes Harry....you know what else its not about?

    by southafricanguy

    logical sense, well developed three dimensional characters that I could have cared about as opposed to the cannon fodder I never gave a shit about when they died, scientists that behave anything like real human beings would in that situation, a self contained story, anything resembling answers, depth (oh sure its good at appearing like its a deep, serious film), and it not about having an ending that is nt stunningly retarded. Do tell Harry wha the logic/sense of Shaw's brain dead plan at the end is? And tell me how that ridiculous ending is nt just simply because the prequal nature of the film left them with no other choice as the she could nt go back to earth so as not to contradict the continuity of Alien/Aliens...... Or please tell me how Prometheus is so good becasue we find out that the Xenomorphs "origin" is due to a non-scary spongebob reject mouth fucking an engineer and thus giving birth to an early version of the xenomorph..... Or tell me what the point is of Charlize Therons character? And finally, Prometheus sure isnt about a well written script......oh no no no....its about sloppy writing at its best...the kind specialized in by guys like Lindelof....

  • June 7, 2012, 9:52 a.m. CST

    kloipy

    by Kevin

    well said!

  • June 7, 2012, 9:53 a.m. CST

    oh....and its not about being a horror film thats

    by southafricanguy

    actually scary.....becasue you know...big bald muscle men are so frightening....

  • June 7, 2012, 10:02 a.m. CST

    I think I have finally realized that Harry is far

    by southafricanguy

    more in love with the idea of a movie than the actual movie itself......thus no matter how bad or dissapointing a film may be he will still love it because he is in love with the idea of it...

  • June 7, 2012, 10:38 a.m. CST

    I miss Script Girl

    by Cassius_Crackhead

    Actually I just miss her tits. Harry's cleavage just can't compare.

  • June 7, 2012, 10:43 a.m. CST

    Well, I guess that was the final episode,

    by Dollar Bird

    since Harry is vaporized and all. (Spoiler) Nice to see and hear Phil Tippett, though. Always admired his work. His "Prehistoric Beast" is still my definitive mental image of what dinosaur time was like. Like if Doug Henderson's and William Stout's styles combined and came to life in a perfect little film. So, please, more interviews with interesting people. I can do without the toy show and the slapstick, though, I'm sure those elements are intrinsic in That Which Is Harry. Also, southafricanguy: I think you hit the nail on the head.

  • Nicotero, Trumbull, Tippett. Nice job Knowles. I hope you get Rick Baker in there someday. Just be sure to let him out.

  • June 7, 2012, 11:09 a.m. CST

    Harry, where did you get the Silent Running drones?

    by v3d

  • June 7, 2012, 11:13 a.m. CST

    Tell your fellow Nerdist Chris Hardwicke, again, I'm sorry about his iPhone..

    by Lao_Che_Air_Freight

    I blundered through his set in the lobby of the Letterman/Lucas place in the Presidio, and accidently knocked his bloody iPhone on the floor while sightseeing yesterday. It didn't break or anything, but boy did I feel the fool. Helluva nice guy. Told him I liked his Young Ones Tshirt I saw him wear on TV once. Total accident they even let me in the lobby, and they ushered me right out cause it supposed to be closed off, and I had to come back later to take some pics.

  • June 7, 2012, 11:24 a.m. CST

    How do you not "get" the tone of the show?

    by End_Of_Line

    After 10 episodes, it seems pretty obvious. The show is exactly like the site, and Harry's reviews. The show is on The Nerdist Channel. Other shows on Nerdist are about Cosplay, and Comic Books, Weird Shit and all the things that Nerds fancy. Harry has always written reviews with childlike wonder (and sometimes childlike grammar) coupled with "Chocolate Covered Pussy Juice" punctuation. I'm just surprised people expect anything different if you come to the site regularly. The show is Harry's id, and ego all at once up on the screen. Some might not like that place... to each his own, I guess. I find it pretty entertaining every week, and look forward to a little fun distraction each week. He's landed some great interviews, and I can tell he's having a good time doing it. Don't change it Harry. Loved the ep, though the sound mix seemed a little screwy this week. Keep it up, Big Guy!

  • June 7, 2012, 11:40 a.m. CST

    end_of_line

    by Kloipy

    Here's my issue as others have said before. Sometimes the show looks like it wants to be geared toward kids (and cursing isn't present or at least censored), like a way to get kids excited about film and interested in the behind the scenes stuff. Then you go to show it to your kid and here comes Harry, talking about finger-banging at the drive in. Am I supposed to sit here and giggle and say 'oh look at that toy he got, isn't he just the coolest geek ever!'. Honestly, it reminds me of going over to a friends house as a kid and that friends parents got them everything and they forced you to watch them play with the toys while rubbing it your face that you don't have it. I think what disappoints me most about it is that it all feels extremely pathetic. Yeah it is nice to see some of these people have nice conversations, but then it is bookended by some childish garbage supposedly marketed towards adults where we get to watch a grown man play dress-up. It isn't my bag, but I can't imagine who really thinks that these things are awesome or cool. I mean he has a larger venue than most people get a chance to have and it is squandered by ridiculous junk. Is it serious or goofy. How can I take him seriously when one minute he's going 'pew-pew' and the next he's supposed to ask serious questions in an unbuttoned shirt? And then to add an extra kick in the balls, he puts on people who have films coming out and guess what; they get good reviews on this site! There is not integrity anymore here, and the more I see, I wonder if there ever was

  • June 7, 2012, 11:50 a.m. CST

    Tell your fellow Nerdist Chris Hardwick, again, these need to be 30 minutes at least.

    by Talkbacker with no name

  • June 7, 2012, noon CST

    I see your points, kloipy

    by End_Of_Line

    And I agree that he could curtail the swearing for sure, but then some talkbackers would accuse him of selling out and not having the balls to swear anymore, so it's a no win for him. I have a young son, and I would love for him to be able to watch something like this without hearing the cursing, and I probably won't show it to him, so I understand that. I would imagine that teenage boys would really love this show though... But at the same time, Harry has always written reviews for kids movies stating "I fucking loved...so and so." He hasn't changed much in his writing to this show. I don't believe that Harry shills for movies, I think he is honestly just a movie lovin' dork and often loves movies that others don't because of the situation of seeing the movie. He gets to see films differently than most people, and sometimes that might effect the review of the film. But I understand that when reading his reviews going in. I usually alligned my views on films with some of the other reviews of the site. But I appreciate the love that he had for movies, and it is sometimes exciting to read something that isn't always so jaded, as many reviewers get.

  • Especially this one. It finally felt like we (even if we didn't) listened in on a full conversation, from beginning to end. Nice job there! The other interviews felt cut up, shortened, over-compressed. (but still a lot of fun) This one did not, at ALL. It was just long enough, even though I could listen to Tippett talk for hours about.... ANYTHING! And I loved the ending! It was a lot of fun this week. It really feels like you're finding your groove, Harry. It's probably all out of sequence and I'm noticing something that isn't there, or something unintentional, but nevertheless.... I think these episodes are improving. Did you disintegrate Huey, Dewey and Louie??!! Or maybe just Huey and Dewey. Poor little fellers. Great stuff, can't wait for next week. :) :) :) P.S. - Have you seen those anti-gravity treadmills yet?? It somehow uses compressed air in some way and you can adjust your *weightlessness* on the panel just like you'd adjust incline on a regular treadmill. You can find detailed info here: http://www.alter-g.com/ I saw it featured in a UK documentary about how to conquer pain, and when that treadmill came on screen I immediately thought about your rehab and how it could help you in a huge way. You could get some serious progress without putting the fear and stress of possible injury in your head while you're working on getting back on your feet. More exercise + less stress on joints (and in your head) = faster full recovery! And those micro-adjustments make for a ton of positive reinforcement and feedback that you just wouldn't get with normal weight-bearing systems with things like racks and belts/harnesses. You can really see progress in a way that you wouldn't with other systems. Plus, they say if you adjust it just right, it feels like walking on the moon. heh...Just a thought! I hope it's all going well.

  • June 7, 2012, 1:05 p.m. CST

    Kloipy!

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Good god, man. Whatever are you doing here?!

  • June 7, 2012, 1:49 p.m. CST

    MNG! Long time no see my man!

    by Kloipy

    Had to come out of AICN retirement to voice my disgust at these videos. Seemed like a good enough reason. How's life been my friend? Hope all is well! The Church of Chang is still going on over at moonwolves.wordpress.com and I've been doing my own on kloipy.wordpress.com Stop by sometime, I'm sure all they guys and gals would be happy to see you! Most likely you'll see Jarv, JustPillowTalk, ThereWolf, Droid, Xiphos, Barfydog, Col. Tigh-fighter, JonahEcho, and a few others of the old order

  • June 7, 2012, 1:52 p.m. CST

    And with these posts

    by Kloipy

    I'll probably not post again for a long long time. So, definitely stop over at the other places sometime man, love to catch up again. Hope the Cthulhu Dance is still going on

  • June 7, 2012, 2:33 p.m. CST

    Abandoning the Roman numerals at X?

    by frank

    But that’s the coolest one!

  • June 7, 2012, 2:56 p.m. CST

    Cool Show, Nice Work Harry

    by John Wood

    I had no idea you were doing this. It's great.

  • June 7, 2012, 3:01 p.m. CST

    Needs more tatum.

    by Chris

  • Perpetually twelve years old. I have never stopped loving the things I love and I never will. Thank you for this weekly affirmation of my ever enduring childhood. At 49 and a third, I no longer feel guilty about not growing up.

  • June 7, 2012, 3:25 p.m. CST

    Nice Show :)

    by giger167

    Enjoyed this one, and the Prometheus review (which I saw a week ago and loved) Enjoyed the Phil Tippett stuff too. Would love to see a long interview with Rob Bottin if anyone can actually find where he is hiding, that would be something :)

  • June 7, 2012, 3:28 p.m. CST

    by Booji Boy

    I love just how enthusiastic I am about the film. Jeez, aren't we in love with ourselves?? Seriously, who can take a fat, narsassitic man-child like Harry seriously anymore? His fuckin' head is getting too big!!!!

  • June 7, 2012, 3:29 p.m. CST

    Me want pwesents!!

    by Booji Boy

    Hey Harry Did you get any Prometheus pwesents????

  • June 7, 2012, 3:34 p.m. CST

    Good episode. But who framed the shot on Phil's cut-camera?

    by Logan_1973

    Headroom, man. Headroom.

  • June 7, 2012, 3:40 p.m. CST

    And...Oh my God! You killed Phil! You bastard!

    by Logan_1973

  • June 7, 2012, 5 p.m. CST

    Good CGI

    by hallmitchell

    I hope you throw that guy a bonus Harry. Is it someone from Troublemaker studios?

  • June 7, 2012, 5:21 p.m. CST

    ^^Tippett

    by justmyluck

  • ... quite frankly, sit back relax and enjoy your own mediocrity and stunningly bad taste.

  • .. IF YOU CAN.

  • ... never once insulted the man.. only his lack of talent and self awareness.

  • June 7, 2012, 5:45 p.m. CST

    Your interviews are real good Harry, but...

    by blackmantis

    ...in your solo stuff your voice goes into a higher octave that's really grating to my ears. In your interviews it's not there. Just some constructive criticism.

  • June 7, 2012, 6:28 p.m. CST

    We haven't had a chance to see Prometheus yet so STFU

    by Rupee88

    I mean damn..it's even like it is Monday after opening weekend. Why are you fucking everyone in the USA with unwanted spoilers? I am having to skip through a lot of this episode.

  • June 7, 2012, 6:29 p.m. CST

    Prometheus

    by forensic_guy

    Really looking forward to this one. I've heard that the third act of the film diverges from the rest in some way. I'm prepared to experience this movie as something to talk about afterwards, with serious discussion. I can't really remember the last time I saw a film that would generate such discussion. "Avengers" was awesome, but there weren't really too many discussions generated other than "Wow, Hulk was finally done right" and "Wonder how they're going to work Thanos into the next one." May have to re-watch "Blade Runner" sometime this weekend too.

  • June 7, 2012, 6:36 p.m. CST

    Loved the "War of the Worlds" finale!

    by TheBigFuckinLebowski

    One more great show harry! Try and get Bob Burns to YOUR basement! He's got so many cool stories to tell!!!

  • June 7, 2012, 7:39 p.m. CST

    southafricanguy

    by Fart Magnus

    no, big bald muscle guys are NOT scary......but they sure are sexy as ALL FUCK!!! That opening scene had me and my partner go all moist and wet down below. If you know what I mean. Was that guy REAL?!?! And if so.............why is he not naked in my bedroom RIGHT NOW?!?!?!?!!?

  • June 7, 2012, 10:10 p.m. CST

    pffft

    by gotilk

    ...

  • June 7, 2012, 10:10 p.m. CST

    pffft

    by gotilk

    ...

  • June 7, 2012, 10:29 p.m. CST

    I love this show, the guests have been great!!!

    by notcher

    Bitch, bitch, bitch! That's what this site has turned into cuz many of our great posters have moved on. All we're left with are people who want to rip on shit just to do it. Very few authentic fans here anymore. Too bad, fuck it Harry, keep it going man!!!

  • June 7, 2012, 11:11 p.m. CST

    "I love just how enthusiastic I am about the film"

    by Windowlicker74

    That must be the dumbest, most childish quote in the history of movies. So you love the fact that you love the movie?? You really dig it about yourself that you're so enthusiastic? :D Do you also get enthusiastic about the fact that you love the fact that you geek out on a certain movie? (phantom menace, godzilla etc) And what about shit movies like Inception or Minority Report? Do you hate yourself that you don't like those movies? Interesting stuff. ps Prometheus is a total mess with some nice imagery (you probably loved the zombie they brought in for no reason)

  • June 7, 2012, 11:50 p.m. CST

    That fat guy is very weird

    by ajit maholtra

    How did Larry learn how to start a website? He seems like a retard.

  • June 8, 2012, 12:24 a.m. CST

    Booji Boy

    by HEADGEEK

    Not a screening for the site, not a set visit for me, not a single anything. This is the movie.

  • June 8, 2012, 3:54 a.m. CST

    Harry, I love this show...

    by digginjim

    Ignore the trolls... keep it comin'! I hardly recognised Phil Tippett. What a legend..

  • June 8, 2012, 4:23 a.m. CST

    Is that what the Tae Kwon Do class got to see?

    by Crooooooow

    A grown man playing with dolls and cursing like a sailor?

  • June 8, 2012, 5:05 a.m. CST

    Another Great Episode

    by bigtime_charly

    Tippett's knowledge and passion always make him an extremely interesting person to listen to. Not to mention the fact that he looks like Father Christmas now. Keep up the good work and fuck the haters.

  • June 8, 2012, 8:13 a.m. CST

    Great episode...

    by Darth Scourge

    Always a pleasure to see an interview with the legendary Phil Tippett.

  • The mining ship worked perfectly in the context of the original. Having this ship be full of scientists doesn't make it a better movie.

  • June 8, 2012, 4:32 p.m. CST

    renetabard

    by HEADGEEK

    You monkey, I wasn't talking SHIT about it, but you have to admit - if you had to travel to the ends of the galaxy, a top of the line ship with LAWRENCE OF ARABIA on board, was way better than a stripped down, just the essentials utilitarian mining class ship. Which should've had a holo-stripper deck - like any Earth based mining vessel would probably have. Just kidding. Kinda. Except it is a company ship and depending on the company... and Weyland is a pretty uptight company - so yeah, the ship in ALIEN is about perfect. But then, so is this ship. They're both ideal for the missions upon which they were both created. As a geek, I personally would prefer the PROMETHEUS ship - unless I were going on a military or mining mission.

  • June 9, 2012, 6:25 a.m. CST

    I DID like the show BUT...

    by L. Ron Bumquist

    During episode 8 (which I was really enjoying up to this point) when you were interviewing Caroll Spinney, he started talking about his wife and you immediately cut away to your own indulgent crap fantasies about your wife, cutting out the part of the interview that I'm sure meant the most to Mr Spinney. I found this incredibly crass and disrespectful. If I can bring myself to watch more then it will be with severe reservations.

  • June 9, 2012, 7:11 a.m. CST

    Harry, you do realize...

    by Jeespox

    ...that in some time you're going to have to write a re-review of Prometheus once the emperor loses his new clothes? It really is that bad.

  • June 9, 2012, 8:53 a.m. CST

    Geek Dads!

    by bobbofatz

    AICN is PG-16. Do you let your weeblings read the talkbacks too? Censor your kids surfing or the gov will see fit to, you goofballs.

  • June 9, 2012, 11:10 a.m. CST

    There were no scientists on Prometheus, Harry.

    by Hooded Justice

    It is a senseless and misleading statement about the movie to describe the crew of Prometheus as scientists. It's the major weak point of the script that undermines the rest of the movie: the characters are supposedly "scientists" but that is impossible to swallow - even in the most generous interpretation of that term. True enough - in 'Alien' you can well believe that Ash is a scientist. His part is written that way and Ian Holm plays it convincingly. Similarly, Parker and Brett are believable as mechanics: they are written that way and played that way. And the same goes for all the other crew members in 'Alien': within the context of the movie, they are completely convincing in their roles. And because of that - I repeat - because of that, we are able to believe all the sci-fi and fantasy make-believe that is happening around them. And even in 'Aliens' the characters act and talk in a manner consistent with their jobs. The marines do act like soldiers - incompetent and gung-ho, yes - but definitely soldiers. Now consider the crew of Prometheus: Charlie Holloway: supposedly an "archeologist". No way. Not now, not ever. If I had to say what his job actually is, I'd say catalogue model. No way has this character ever been to archeology school or ever thought about anything more complex than his hair and his clothes. Fifield: a "geologist"? No. An unemployed ex-con drug-addict? Yes. Milburn: a "botanist"? Again, only in terms of growing marijuana - and smoking the whole lot himself. Janek: the "captain"? Insists that everyone strap themselves in for the rough landing while he stands on the deck in order to be fired through the windscreen at the first bump. Spends the rest of the movie acting like a cheeky waiter on the Love Boat. Meredith Vickers: unspecified. And you rarely see her anyway. So why was she in the movie? Elizabeth Shaw: archeologist. This is the only crew member who's job I buy. She's good - but the script continually lets her down with stupid lines. And in the end of the day there seems no good to hire a young archeologist like her, when some one more senior would be prefereable. And the big problem with this movie is this: we cannot buy that anyone would hire any of these people for ANYTHING - let alone an important trillion-dollar mission.

  • June 9, 2012, 11:17 a.m. CST

    Empire Poster

    by Bulvai

    Tell me more about the Empire Strikes Back Poster? I looks different than those I've seen in the past.

  • June 9, 2012, 2:15 p.m. CST

    Was avoiding this and aicn in general until I saw Prometheus.

    by adeceasedfan

    I loved PROMETHEUS, but I had a few minor quibbles. This episode was one of the best. Good work headgeek.

  • June 9, 2012, 3:02 p.m. CST

    adeceasedfan

    by kells

    Apparently no one informed you that the only cool critical opinion to express in these public forums is to hate Prometheus with the passion normally reserved for someone who just tortured and mutilated your entire family while simultaneously urinating on all your collectible Star Wars memorabilia. Furthermore, it will still only be cool to hate on Prometheus in these forums until The Dark Knight Rises premieres, at which point you will have permission to only love The Dark Knight Rises with near orgasmic praise no matter how long, boring, or over-rated it may actually end up being. Oh, and you also have to think Paul Verhoeven is actually a film-making auteur genius instead of a director of almost Uwe Bollish suckness. Carry on.

  • I liked it a hell of a lot better than watching people run around a ship looking for a monster. The look of the space jockey was very cool. I sure how there is a sequel.

  • I already explained why in Jon Ary's thread, not worth spending time repeating it, go read it.

  • June 9, 2012, 11 p.m. CST

    Well, let me see...

    by Lobanhaki2

    First, I saw Prometheus today. It's not a masterpiece, but it was still a wonderfull movie, with some great ideas behind it. I think some people think it's their mission in life to puncture overhyped films. Personally, that's the most useless thing in the world to me. Hollywood overhypes almost as a rule. Nobody wants to be responsible for the movie that fails because somebody didn't wedge that final commercial in. If a film seems pointless to me, I just don't go see it. I watch movies to enjoy myself, not to show up ready to doubt everything I see on screen. The thing is, the more you know about films, and my education means I know a shitload more than most people, the more you understand two things: one, there is no perfect film, and those looking for flaws in the reality of the movie will find them, because movies, as are all stories, are incomplete. Two, movies are communication about the real world, they aren't the real world itself. Like your experience of the real world, which they are meant to mimic, they pretty much aim to give just enough information to keep things moving forward with the most important stuff carried on, and everything else left behind. I say, when you go to see a film, let the film itself be the one to end the suspension of disbelief, not you yourself. If you're the one deciding not to believe in what you see there from the get go, you have nobody to blame for your lack of enjoyment but yourself.

  • June 10, 2012, 12:07 a.m. CST

    @kells

    by adeceasedfan

    Do you know me? First paragraph is dead on. Got to disagree on Verhoeven though. I loves me some Robocop.

  • June 10, 2012, 7:56 a.m. CST

    What I love most about listening to Tippett here

    by JackieJokeman

    Is that its clear he is still interested in what he does. Hes still searching, trying new things, experimenting and having fun. Thats why hes so good. The anti-Lucas.

  • June 10, 2012, 9:56 a.m. CST

    Cool episode.

    by Rob Jenson

    Hate to admit it, but I didn't know who Phil Tippet was, but when I saw him on here I looked him up and . . . wow, he's motherfucking Phil Tippet! So glad I watched.

  • June 10, 2012, 11:06 a.m. CST

    jawsfan

    by dukeroberts

    I think the problem was actually separating the helmet from the head, not that it was too heavy. Even if I'm wrong, it was two women trying to lift the helmet off and both were pretty skinny. Also, the positioning of the helmet on the high table limited their leverage.

  • June 10, 2012, 5:15 p.m. CST

    lobanhaki2

    by wrx

    Well said. My girlfriend, best friend and i had a fantastic time with this film. it's clearly better than the AVP films and deserves to sit up there with 1 and 2. There are problems, but all i wanted was for it to be taken seriously. Shit, if this had came out back in the 80's , we probably would still be defending it zealously. Just a bunch of cynical people talking shit about everything as usual

  • June 10, 2012, 8:03 p.m. CST

    What Harry, no Tony Award Night Talkback!

    by cookylamoo

  • June 10, 2012, 10:04 p.m. CST

    saw Prometheus again today and loved it

    by antonphd

    it gets better with repeat viewings the haters are just sad people

  • June 10, 2012, 11:38 p.m. CST

    On Weyland's "crew" *spoiluhs*

    by animatronicmojo

    Yes, they're an odd mix- of people and possibly more than one artificial person. Again, I say they and the mission MO all make perfect sense if you see the mission as a reflection of Weyland's narcissistic mind. All on board serve some sort of purpose to Weyland, and ultimately, all are expendable to some degree. Weyland's self-centered mission- to dare ask the "maker" for the secret of immortality- is the only agenda here- as Vickers makes clear to Shaw and Holloway. <p> Again, I posit that, in the end, only Shaw, Holloway, Janek, Chance and Ravel prove themselves to be human, because of their sacrifice themselves for their species. Here's a rundown on what purpose they serve aboard Prometheus, and their rank: <p> #1 Weyland: megalomaniacal trillionaire with extreme narcissistic tendencies that have developed into "a god complex." Regarded as a visionary for his advances in science, he is also extremely paranoid, owing to his nature and years of waging espionage war with rival Yutani over control of known resources. This version of Weyland is human, and the original, but is ultimately revealed to be psychotic in nature due to his regard for others as potential human test subjects / guinea pigs for first contact with potential alien life and/or "unclean" military experiments. <P> Directive: Serve as nerve center controlling the mission while safely locked away in vaulted cryo-sleep, and all others radiate out from him in order of importance. Oh yes, I think it's quite possible he knew much more about what was going to happen on this mission- some occult knowledge, or earlier surveys informing him, perhaps. So secretive, only he knows what he knows. <p> #2 David. Human? No- advanced AI, prime mission operative and first line of defense. Directive: To, at all costs, locate and make contact with living sentient beings who might hold key to immortality. Also, through creative coercion and subliminal pre-conditioning in cryo-sleep, deliver test subjects to first contact to test hostility levels, test potential alien biohazards on designated human and replicant test subjects, deliver infected test subjects to cryo-sleep for future study. Also serves as information control between he and Vickers. Status: Indispensable <P> #3 Vickers. Human? Unclear. Possible AI, but more likely replicant, engineered with aspects of Weyland's DNA- likely one of many altered "copies" of Weyland. Directive: Serve as prime mission director and control level between Weyland and "crew." History with Weyland, i.e., "Daughter" suggests either actual biological daughter or replicant programed for service in corporate hierarchy. Possibly also engineered as Weyland's personal long-term sex-slave. Status: Useful, but Dispensable (no, the auto-surgery table's not for you, dear). <P> #4-6: Mercenary detail: Human? Unclear. Again, all are likely replicants and/or AI with military programming. Directive: Second line of defense and police actions. Status: Useful, but Dispensable. <P> #7-9: Piloting detail: Janek, Chance and Ravel. Human? Yes- mercenary / mining / corporate backgrounds. Directive: Fly ship, participate in data mapping, survey away team- also third line of defense. Status: Useful but Dispensable / potential 3rd-wave test subjects. <P> #10: Nurse Cook: Human? Yes, likely. Directive: Serve as personal nurse to Weyland and "crew," join first away team- participate in exobiological research. Status: Useful but Dispensable / potential 1st, 2nd or 3rd-wave test subject. <P> #11: Shaw: Human? Yes. Directive: Provide anthropological information to David and join first away team- participate in exobiological research. Status: 1st or 2nd-wave test subject. <P> #12: Holloway: Human? Yes. Directive: Provide anthropological information to David and join first away team- participate in exobiological research. Status: 1st or 2nd-wave test subject. <P> #13: Fifield: Human? No, clearly a replicant disturbed from space mining operations, and near end of life term. (Was not his whole business of "not helping" a direct reference to the "Voight-Kampff" test?) Directive: Join first away team, release probes and serve as first test subject for pathogens. Status: 1st-wave test subject. <P> #14: Millburn: Human? Yes. Directive: Join first away team and serve as first test subject for pathogens. Recruited by Vickers for extremely fool-hearty behavior in dealing with wild animals. Status: 1st-wave test subject.

  • June 11, 2012, 4:47 a.m. CST

    None of crew are memorable so naming them is a bust

    by catlettuce4

  • June 11, 2012, 7:58 a.m. CST

    At the end of the day...it's a horror movie.

    by cookylamoo

    People aren't going to take their kids to see it.

  • June 11, 2012, 6:01 p.m. CST

    people hyped this movie up in there head...

    by andy kaufman

    thats why you dont like it . its not the movies' fault. you were told it has 0 to do with alien and that story line.

  • June 11, 2012, 10:22 p.m. CST

    Listen man! It did not need to tie into any Alien movie

    by xbagboy

    I just wanted better characters, better dialogue and better build up to the climax. In the original premise for this movie, (before Fox made all the AvP movies) Scott was gonna tie this directly into Alien but after all the misuse of the xenomorph he chose not to but still included some similar imagery. All the parallels which we see here were gonna be a direct tie in instead of just nods to Alien. Either way, I understand why Scott didn't do a direct prequel but I still wanted a better movie.

  • June 11, 2012, 11:16 p.m. CST

    You managed to make Phil Tippet boring

    by Jaster Mareel

    I can only assume the only reason he agreed to come on was to talk about his crappy little personal project. I've never understood why people try to raise money to do their own crap when all they gotta do is write themselves a check. Forty grand Phil? You were trying to RAISE forty grand? That was like one day on Jurassic Park. And what's the logic in asking people to fund a personal project you admit to having no interest in finishing? So yeah, this one was pretty much a snoozefest.

  • June 11, 2012, 11:57 p.m. CST

    To any AICN editors/contributors reading, I beg you--

    by Sean

    Please don't report on Adam Sandler's Tonka Truck movie at all. Draw a line in the sand and just ignore the whole damn thing from now until the end of whatever it may lead to. Don't report on it ironically, just flat out ignore it. As long as your opinions are not swayed by potential gains from placating Hollywood, you should have no problem as journalists with integrity recognizing a sum of useless information and make the choice to turn your backs on it. Please. Put your fucking foot down.

  • June 12, 2012, 6:11 p.m. CST

    You loser!!!

    by Kevin

    Of course Madagascar outdid Prometheus...Do you know how many families and kids went out to this movie compared to the adults of Prometheus? Get a frickin grip you loosers!!!

  • June 13, 2012, 5:32 a.m. CST

    @kells

    by Mr Kite

    You have been repeatedly stating in prometheus talkbacks that people who say they didn't like the film think they are cool or "so fucking cool". Its getting really tired. I was disappointed by Prometheus but I don't feel that makes me cool. Its just a personal opinion. I am no better or worse than people who enjoyed prometheus. I looked forward to this movie for months and desperately wanted to enjoy it. I take absolutely no pleasure in the fact that I found it such a let down. You obviously enjoyed Prometheus. Discuss it, review it, debate it as much as you like. You are entitled to do so. Allow other people to do the same, whether they liked it or not, and stop repeating the same childish "so fucking cool " mantra......if you can.

  • June 14, 2012, 2:51 p.m. CST

    the film was rubbish

    by MrShootist

    a dozen characters we have no reason to like, and a few who we probably don't like, land on a planet, the robot goes crazy, everyone dies. The end.

  • June 19, 2012, 2:36 a.m. CST

    MAYBE THIS EXPLANATION WILL CALM THINGS DOWN A BIT

    by Raggles Wimpole

    http://io9.com/5919306/another-theory-about-the-meaning-of-prometheus?tag=prometheus

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