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Ambush Bug here. The below hour-plus long conversation took place between myself and my fellow @$$holes Matt Adler, Optimous Douche, and our host Johnny Destructo of as we talked about SUPERMAN FAMILY ADVENTURES #1, GRIM LEAPER #1, BATMAN ANNUAL #1, SNAKE EYES & STORM SHADOW #13, HULK #52, THE RAVAGERS #1, X-MEN #29, another rousing edition of @$$terpiece Theatre, and of course, more general jack@$$$ery!

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  • June 5, 2012, 7:17 a.m. CST

    C'mon, give Supes his red undies back!

    by Brank Hud

    He ain't the same, he just ain't the same!

  • June 5, 2012, 8:20 a.m. CST

    The've already screwed up the movie without the undies

    by KoolerThanJesus

    So the comic doesn't matter at this point. Apparently no one at DC watched any of Marvel's movies to see that yes superhero costumes look ridiculous on the big screen, but they are supposed to.

  • June 5, 2012, 8:44 a.m. CST

    Superman Family Adventures

    by Snookeroo

    While it's great that DC is providing kid-friendly fare, I've never understood why comic companies feel like kid-oriented comics have to be illustrated as if they were drawn by kids (Tiny Titans, for instance). When I was a kid, I LOVED Neil Adams artwork as a step-up from Curt Swan. Re: Superman's lack of red trunks in MOS - the costume would look better if it was treated the same as the comics; but he does not sport the red belt (in fact he barely has any belt at all), and without that color break the costume just looks weird.

  • June 5, 2012, 8:46 a.m. CST

    Batman Annual

    by Snookeroo

    Has some beautiful artwork, but the story is almost non-existent - what story does exist is pretty pointless. And to say this is a Night of the Owls tie-in is really, really reaching.

  • June 5, 2012, 9:04 a.m. CST

    Mr. Freeze...

    by Jason White

    actually shows up in Redhood and the Outlaws tie-in to Night of the Owls.

  • June 5, 2012, 9:29 a.m. CST

    I agree about the kiddy art in kids comics

    by Brank Hud

    it is a shame. Comics used to BE for kids and they were drawn (somewhat) realistically. I think too many comics in general skew too "grown-up" cause they want to be cool I guess and kids are overly sophisticated now anyway. A good modern comic that was a solid throwback to fun-for-everyone comics was Mad Love by Dini and Timm. Good stuff.

  • June 5, 2012, 10:09 a.m. CST

    @snookaroo - no story? bwaaaah?

    by Poptard_JD

    it reveals that the woman he's been "married to" and in "love with" that was "taken from him" for the past however long was entirely a fiction that he made up for the sake of obsession.. it also delves into his childhood tragedy that caused him to have a love/hate relationship with the cold and ice. I found it to be a really gripping character piece.

  • June 5, 2012, 10:11 a.m. CST

    cartoony art in comics

    by Poptard_JD

    Yeah, comics used to be for kids...generally in the 9, 10 and up range, i think. Tiny Titans is obviously for even younger readers, and I know a ton of kids and adults that love that series.

  • June 5, 2012, 10:44 a.m. CST

    Superman cannot have his red tights back....

    by simongarth2001

    DC lost certain rights to the Superman character and was forced to make changes to his appearance and origin, supporting characters, etc. This was the whole reason for the "New 52" change. They figured if they had to change their most recognizable icon, the might as well make it a large event and change everybody. The tights won't be back, neither will the famous S curl in his hair, and his origin, unless Warner and DC pay out big bucks which I guess they didn't want to do.

  • June 5, 2012, 11:46 a.m. CST


    by Snookeroo

    I've heard that idea thrown around, too, but not sure how much I believe it. Superman's "S" emblem is much more iconic than the red trunks - if DC was concerned about a trademark/copyright infringement his crest would be more of a problem than his underoos.

  • June 5, 2012, 11:48 a.m. CST


    by Snookeroo

    Maybe you're right - I read the story very late last night and was pretty exhausted at the time. Good points, all - I'll give it another look.

  • June 5, 2012, 11:48 a.m. CST


    by Tigger11

    I thought Batman Annual was a great issue, and a great flow from the Freeze's appearance in Red Cowl and the Outlaws. In fact I thought both this annual and the Animal Annual were both really well done. I like standalone annuals, and I like both stories which though they have something to do with the current arcs and expand on the story, really can stand alone even if you arent currently reading the books themselves.

  • June 5, 2012, 11:59 a.m. CST


    by Snookeroo

    Red Hood and the Outlaws is the ONLY "Night of the Owls" tie-in I haven't read. Go figure.

  • June 5, 2012, 12:40 p.m. CST


    by simongarth2001

    I work in the comics industry. Have lots of friends at DC. It's true.

  • June 5, 2012, 2:18 p.m. CST


    by Snookeroo

    Thanks for the intel. Shows what I know - hell, I'm the same guy that thought Batman Annual didn't amount to much. Thank God I'm not a stock broker.

  • Now I think they are taking themselves Way too seriously. Don't get me wrong I'm not hating at all. I thought Batman Begins was ok, LOVED The Dark Knight but that was mainly due to Ledger's Joker. But after the MTV Movie awards presentation I was like whoa it's Batman not Citzen Kane lighten up.

  • June 5, 2012, 6:42 p.m. CST

    The Nolan Bat Films

    by MattAdler

    Yep, I was not as head-over-heels in love with them as some were-- I actually prefer the first Burton film to them. Heresy, I know. But I acknowledge that they are beautfiul works of art, and a welcome relief after the embarassment of the Schumacher films.

  • June 5, 2012, 6:50 p.m. CST

    I agree with Matt...

    by 3774

    ...I prefer the first Burton film over the Dark Knight as well, with the same relief over Schumacher. You won't be alone if rabid Nolan fans decide to roast some infidels a stake.

  • I do love the Burton version so so so much, but you have to admit there is some SHITTY acting in that movie!! But then, that's half the fun too, quoting the shitting acting and some of the lines. "Where you been spendin' YER nights, Jack-O?" "I'm reading your stuff. - Yeah, well I'm reading YOURS!" "Gimme a dolla....come ON lady, juss one DOLLA!! Whottaya, DEAF?" "Hey Jack....hufffff hufffff....don't forget....hufff huhfff....your LUCKY DECK...wheeze huff huffuffle"

  • June 6, 2012, 11:24 a.m. CST

    LOL @ the quotes from Batman

    by Wcwlkr

    Man that makes me want watch that again. Yes I love how Nolan's Batmans have washed the taste of the Schumaker films out of our collective mouths. Especially since Batman & Robin is the film I rate every bad movie against now. LOL if it's on Batman & Robin level it's a gigantic turd of a film.

  • June 6, 2012, 7:12 p.m. CST

    too true, Schumaker's were terrible terrible blorch.

    by Poptard_JD