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John Ary here with my first reaction to Prometheus.

After watching a movie, I usually head out to the lobby or in front of the theater and talk into my camera for a few minutes with my initial thoughts about the film. This is a movie though that has kept me thinking and unfortunately, the more you think about it, the more plot holes develop.

I'll post a discussion video on Friday that chronicles some of the more spoilerific territory, both good and bad, but for now, here's my first reaction to Ridley Scott's prequel to Alien.



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Prometheus Review



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  • June 4, 2012, 10:59 a.m. CST

    'there's my first reaction to Ridley Scott's prequel to Alien'

    by Tom-Paul Smith

    Don't let Harry catch you calling it a prequel, he hates that.

  • June 4, 2012, 11:02 a.m. CST

    @heyoucantlaugatthat: No, I'm like you. I can't stand videos.

    by AlienFanatic

    It feels like I'm being fed pablum by a talking head. I equate stuff like this to E! or Entertainment Tonight where someone wholly unqualified to discuss something is staring at me with a pasted-on smile and jovial demeanor. I much, much prefer it when they write out their opinion so that I can spend more time thinking about the material and reacting to their analysis. And, not to be mean, but Ary's just not someone I want to watch for two and a half minutes. I look forward to reviews by Quint and The Kidd at this point. Nord should be fun, too. Harry will be talking endlessly about Theron's ass and whether or not he saw Fassbinder's johnson. And Massa will just be pissed off. But at least they'll have taken the time to write out their thoughts.

  • June 4, 2012, 11:12 a.m. CST

    That music is incredibly fucking annoying

    by kwisatzhaderach

  • June 4, 2012, 11:16 a.m. CST

    I've given up

    by JJarvis

    trying to avoid details about this movie. I wish they would stop releasing movies a week in advance overseas. Between all the negative chatter and the film's own advertising I pretty much know everything there is to know about this film and I haven't even seen it yet. I even know the "surprise ending." It's hard not to be spoiled when a large part of the world has already seen the film. The Avengers was kind of spoiled for me too. I know. Why am I on AICN if I want to remain spolier-free? I guess I just can't resist.

  • June 4, 2012, 11:18 a.m. CST


    by greigy just wanted to say

    Quiet, self effacing, intelligent and understated. EVERYTHING that Knowles isn't. Ditch you ego Knowles and hire this guy to front the vids...

  • June 4, 2012, 11:19 a.m. CST

    heyoucantlaughatthat: haha, I feel the same way

    by Sir Loin

  • June 4, 2012, 11:19 a.m. CST

    Ary's got it right! Nice, balanced and RIGHT review!

    by marineboy

    Prometheus was never going to be Alien. We live in a different age suckers; it's as scary as FOX WILL LET IT BE. It's not your £250m behind this - it's theirs. They want this to be closer to Transformers, not some indie gore fest. They want a franchise built on elements of a classic. They want their money back. It will appeal more to people beyond the fanboy hardcore. Fanboy's have to deal with this. The film is great - an adventure rather than a slasher movie. But it has its moments. And there'll be more.

  • June 4, 2012, 11:19 a.m. CST

    Agree about the music...sounds like a Swedish Jazz band.

    by cookylamoo

  • June 4, 2012, 11:22 a.m. CST

    don't watch videos

    by Laserhead

    I'm reading here.

  • June 4, 2012, 11:24 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    Nice little vid, and I completely agree with his comments. Particularly singling out the android David - a superb sci-fi creation for the ages brilliantly performed by Fassbender (truly the haters who constantly whine that it has *shit characters* - well, they're fools and idiots if they can't appreciate the awesome that is David). PROMETHEUS is a very decent movie - like Ary says it's a worthy prequel but don't go expecting it to match the greatness of ALIEN. You'll be disappointed.

  • June 4, 2012, 11:41 a.m. CST

    Is Jonesy the cat an experiment done by the Space Jockeys as well..??

    by barry_lyndon

    I always thought they should've left out the cat. I just re-watched A L I E N and I think the cat could've gotten alone with the creature. They could've been interstellar buddies.

  • June 4, 2012, 11:44 a.m. CST

    Never in my life...

    by Bastardsonofathousandmovies

    ...have I ever had to avoid so much commentary BEFORE going to see a huge summer blockbuster. Having the rest of the world see these movies before us absolutely SUCKS!!!!!

  • June 4, 2012, 11:55 a.m. CST


    by RocketFuckingMan

    thats how its been for us for years,used to be a 3 month wait in Britain for a film,Matrix,Starwars etc...

  • June 4, 2012, 11:55 a.m. CST

    best thing piracy ever did

    by RocketFuckingMan

  • June 4, 2012, 12:02 p.m. CST

    So marineboy, you're basically admitting that Ridley sold out

    by Volllllume3

    The script was utter shit and you know it.

  • June 4, 2012, 12:07 p.m. CST

    Sojom, no the Alien series is all about Feline survival

    by Domi'sInnerChild

    That's why Fincher killed off everybody but the cat in Alien 3. Until Whedon fucked it up and brought Ripley back as a clone completely invalidating that theme. It's clearer if you read the Alien movie from Jonesy's perspective.

  • June 4, 2012, 12:07 p.m. CST

    My Review (SPOILERS) posted again here.

    by Arcane

    Whilst it’s obvious that many people are balking at what Ridley Scott and David Lindelof have created in Prometheus, it’s also clear to me that many people have become unnecessarily critical of the movie on the grounds that the film fails to coherently fit into their preconceived notions of what is called the ‘Alien Universe’ Personally I have to agree that this film does indeed suffer from several narrative errors that, whether present by mistake or by design, only serve to damage the experience from a story-telling point of view. Furthermore, and admittedly from a deeply subjective point of view, I feel that while many aspects of design in this film are impressive to say the least, the ‘creatures’ that ultimately appear to menace our protagonists are, by sharp contrast to say the vehicle and set design, very poorly designed and logically moribund. That last point is, I think, pretty important as my intuition tells me that is where many of the feelings of disappointment and anger emerge among many of the people who’ve seen the movie; namely the underwhelming manner in which xenomorphic biology and behaviour is handled in a universe that traditionally has made such effort to treat extraterrestrial biology with, at the very least, a fair degree of rational explanation and logic. For example, in the first movie ‘Alien’, from the point Kane is brought back aboard the Nostromo with the ‘face-hugger’ attached barely a moment passes without some form of investigative prodding, slicing or pondering by nervous crew members. It is literally through the crews’ collective anxiety over the situation, and their efforts to reach some sort of understanding of the alien, that the audience learn important facts about its biology that in turn raise tension and hint at greater questions. In contrast, when the crew of the Prometheus happen upon the alien technology contained in the facility on LV-226 there is a distinct lack of exposition and focus on their attempts to understand exactly what they have stumbled upon. As a result the audience is left to make sense of the nonsensical; an aggressive alien ‘worm’ presumably mutated from some soft-bodied invertebrate falling into ‘black goo’, an aborted foetal stage cephalopod type creature that develops over a period of hours into something resembling a psychotic giant octopus. Leaving these matters aside for a moment and returning to the issue of narrative there exists equally perplexing issues. For example, at one point during the final act a hugely significant plot development is revealed to the audience via a couple of lines of dialogue with absolutely no explanation whatsoever as to how or why the character who utters these lines has come to such incredible conclusions. So fundamental to the events of the final act is this information (namely that the structure they have been poking around is a bio-weapons facility developed by the ‘Engineers’ who are preparing an imminent attack on human-beings) that the lack of prior screen time devoted to analysis of the ‘facility’ and its contents by the crew aboard the Prometheus reveals itself to be a serious thorn in the narratives side. Ultimately these kinds of glaring omissions leave the viewer scratching their head over exactly how and why many of the events they witness unfold as they do. There is the question of whether or not that could be intentional. Perhaps so, but even accepting the possibility Scott and Lindelof have conspired to produce a puzzle by design, the degree to which any clues are adequately examined via the protagonists in the movie only adds to the overall sense of incoherence and disjointedness in the narrative. These issues aside, I still feel that what is ultimately missed by many people complaining about this movie is just how well it works when it isn’t dealing with ‘what is in those containers and how it fits into the Alien franchise’ Clearly what Scott and Lindelof are most interested in has very little to do with such matters as, when you discard the ill-conceived and transitory nods to the Alien mythology, the real story in Prometheus is actually the story of humankinds obsession with creation and the myths that have surrounded that obsession for hundreds of years. It’s fairly clear, from the opening scene onwards, that Prometheus is the attempt by Scott and Lindelof to reinvigorate the ‘ancient astronaut’ hypothesis within the parameters of a modern science-fiction adventure film. I say ‘reinvigorate’ precisely because those ideas, popular though they might have been some time ago, have been largely absent from mainstream movie-making in recent years. For those unfamiliar with the concept of the ‘ancient astronaut’ I suggest searching the term on the internet for plentiful information. For those who want a brief summary the hypothesis argues that, some time during the prehistory of humankind the planet Earth was visited by an advanced alien race whom, amongst other things, genetically manipulated early hominids to create modern ‘homo sapiens’ and, by implication, gave rise to a series of hyperbolic myths surrounding the origins of our species as early humankind struggled to document the incredible truth of their own creation. The implications of the theory are huge and far-reaching but largely ignored by mainstream science at this time. It is, without any shadow of a doubt, this hypothesis and its implications, that Ridley Scott and David Lindelof have set out to explore. It is this idea that informs the narrative, characters and situations that they find themselves in. In other words, from what I can tell, it is only when watching the movie from this point of view that it starts to make any sense whatsoever. Now that’s a problem. Why? It is a problem because the palette with which Scott and Lindelof have chosen to explore these ideas is one which comes with a predetermined mythos (the ‘Alien’ mythos) The result is a movie which, after setting the scene for an exploration of the creation myths of humanity through the hypothesis of ‘ancient astronauts’ finds itself having to fit its revelations and plot developments within the well known parameters of an existing science fiction universe. Clearly something has to give and, as it was never the primary topic in Scott’s vision, it is the ‘Alien’ mythos that now finds itself in subjugation to the ‘new’ story Scott and Lindelof are interested in telling. In other words the beloved xenomorphs, in all their disturbing and horrific incarnations, are unceremoniously delegated to the role of ‘extras’ in Scott’s new, more ambitious, tale. In this story it is the humans and their ‘Gods’ who take centre stage; the bio-weapons merely one consequence amongst many in a universe populated by walking agents of creation. My feeling on the Prometheus reaction is that Scott and Lindelof would have been better served completely eradicating ANY suggestion that their story was tied, however distantly, with the Alien mythos. By this I do not mean doing what they clearly tried to do (that is stating as much but then hinting that the tale would share ‘Alien DNA’), rather they should have completely eradicated any hint whatsoever that this movie was set in the same universe and simply let the audience discover that with their own eyes. This would have allowed viewers to digest Prometheus on its own merits without approaching the project already burdened with the baggage of an already established and beloved science-fiction universe. Unfortunately, such an opportunity was lost the moment imagery lifted straight from Alien (Giger designs, Space Jockeys, etc) began popping up in trailers. In this way it is ironic that the same thing which created such hype and anticipation for this film is the same thing that ends up provoking such a negative reaction from its viewers. Prometheus has its flaws. Indeed, so glaring are they that it is fairly heroic to suggest it could ever be considered to take a place amongst the classics with which it ‘shares DNA’. However, flawed though it may be, Prometheus is contradictorily an intelligent and daring film that, if nothing else, revisits the larger and more significant questions that have driven intelligent science fiction for decades and does so with great visual panache. On this basis alone I think the movie partially succeeds.

  • June 4, 2012, 12:16 p.m. CST


    by JAMF

    you speak like this is the way things will be from now on, it's just coz of the jubilee/olympics surely?

  • June 4, 2012, 12:18 p.m. CST

    When the hell will Quint and Nordling post their reviews?

    by Lucky13

    Sick of these no-name jagoffs. Video Reviews? Give me a fuckin' break, guys. I mean, really. Please write your reviews --- I have no interest in watching your ugly mugs.

  • June 4, 2012, 12:25 p.m. CST

    Good recview!

    by billF

  • June 4, 2012, 12:26 p.m. CST

    oops..meant review.

    by billF

    Still looking forward to this movie.

  • June 4, 2012, 12:38 p.m. CST

    had this come out a month ago, they would have still had me...

    by animatronicmojo

    Sorry, but the anticipation is way over now. Too much has been leaked, thanks to the too revealing trailers and staggered international premiers, that suggests everything I've come to expect from Scott, who, I'm sorry, I've just never been that big a fan of. Alien is a great B-movie, Blade Runner has some fantastic moments, and The Duelist is my favorite of his films, but other than that, I've been bored and frustrated by his films one after another. The early marketing for this was pitch perfect, and the not knowing too much was really peaking my interest. However, just when the movie should have come out, they starting chipping away at my anticipations with bigger and bigger reveals in longer and longer trailers, until I started to get a definite Supernova, Event Horizon, The Sphere, etc., vibe of good-looking mediocrity. Why!? Yeah, yeah, I should have avoided this site like the plague if I wanted to go in unspoiled, but once the doubting begins, there comes a kind of fascination in seeing if ones doubts are justified by reading early reviews. I suppose I will still see it, at some point, because it's at least a science fiction adventure, which we so rarely get- but I am now expecting, plot-wise, something along the lines of a spoon-fed moribund episode of Star Trek, as opposed to a truly existential masterpiece like 2001.

  • June 4, 2012, 12:46 p.m. CST

    I'm absolutely still going but with diminished expectations

    by smudgewhat

    It just looks so freakin cool at least the sci-fi eye candy will help me extrapolate a better story later!

  • June 4, 2012, 12:47 p.m. CST

    Respectfully, Mr. Ary . . .

    by Olsen Twins_Fan

    maybe just write it out next time.

  • June 4, 2012, 12:47 p.m. CST

    I do like your style John....

    by Jaster Mareel

    And although I appreciate the non-spoiler nature of this didn't really say much about the film. You said Fassbender was awesome, which I think we all assumed, particularly after that viral commercial. You said there were slow parts in between the action, but those end up enhancing the film. Ok, also pretty predictable. And lastly you said it was a worthy prequel. I guess that's somewhat useful in a very vague, non-specific way. You do say you'll have a more spoiler-filled review later so i guess this is sort of a preamble. Still I would have liked a bit more.

  • June 4, 2012, 12:47 p.m. CST


    by Spanish Eddie

    I just want to read my news. I don't need somebody to read it for me.

  • June 4, 2012, 1:11 p.m. CST


    by Rob


  • June 4, 2012, 1:20 p.m. CST

    by luis

    RIGHT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • I always pictured AICN reviewers as sanctimonious Comic-Book-Guy types.

  • June 4, 2012, 1:35 p.m. CST

    RE: watching video vs reading review

    by Type 40

    I prefer to read rather than watch a video. Waiting for the video to buffer enough to allow a smooth run is a mild annoyance. Reading allows me to read it in full, or to skip ahead if I choose. I could do that with a video too, but no so easily. Also, when I read, I "hear" it in my own voice, not someone else's. I can choose my own background music if I want & don't have to have it forced upon me. Advice to Mr. Video blog man: video your thoughts if you want, but transcribe it out afterwards. Thanks.

  • June 4, 2012, 1:41 p.m. CST

    Nothing will top The Raid this year. That movie is AMAZING.

    by 5secondfuse

    Prometheus - Massive Disappointment Dark Knight Rises - Just looks boring, bad trailer great movie perhaps....... Spiderman - Why? Simply Not Interested Skyfall - Please Please be great. Hobbit - See Skyfall. Total Recall - Len Wiseman says it all.

  • June 4, 2012, 1:44 p.m. CST


    by atlantean

    Best review I´ve read so far. Totally agree.

  • the young alien's size, if he'd been the creature's 2nd victim. he could've then increased to sort've troll size before he (e.g.) jumped out of a pipe onto brett's back. woulda made more sense. but then we wouldn't have that awesome scene near the shuttle's doors where ripley drops the cat carrier at the corner... sigh. so what's this prometheus movie about?

  • June 4, 2012, 1:53 p.m. CST

    and is it better than ang lee's hulk?

    by foree forehead

    no fuckin' way.

  • June 4, 2012, 1:58 p.m. CST

    is it just me or has this summer fucking sucked

    by antonphd

    the avengers was fun in a saturday morning cartoon guilty pleasure kind of way, but it was not a great movie by any stretch of the imagination and it was the only movie that has been close to being worth the time spent in the theater this summer the rest of May was a complete waste. June doesn't look like it has anything better now that it's pretty clear that Alien5 is a mixed bag at best. it's like the summer of 2008 again. ironman, batman and a pixar movie and everything else is meh.

  • June 4, 2012, 2:16 p.m. CST


    by chronicallydepressedlemming

    Nope, I'm with you. Articles I can read at my own pace. Videos I'm stuck with whatever pace is deemed appropriate by the author.

  • June 4, 2012, 2:29 p.m. CST

    I like that John stands in front of the theatre for his reviews.

    by cookylamoo

    Instead of broadcasting from his geeked out bedroom like most people who do video reviews. At least it shows he gets out sometimes.

  • June 4, 2012, 2:43 p.m. CST

    Ancient Astronauts

    by cube3

    Please.. not current and old ideas?...for the audience? van danikens nonsense is on 24/7 on scyfy and history channel series..... "ancient astronauts" is a series that repeats such crazy weekly.... its 1970s puedoscience fiction that was better off as a film when rod serling narrated it. and less we forget... LIFE HERE BEGAN OUT THERE.... -- so said we all;).. 2 years ago as the galactica crashed again into earth.... cybernectic beings and all.../DNA as well.:) btw- the 70s BSG was based heavily on the van daniken crazy.... havent seen movie yet... sound like a matinee no 3d... or a wait for cable... the real reason for this and blade runner redux talk is the idea of "transmedia" marketing and the attempt by ridley to make a legacy in dollars not unlike lucas ... the onlyl way to do this was to renegotiate deals based on "sure things" (past hit ip he dont own) since his "orignal ip" transmedia companyy failed 2 years ago... this way he gets to own the "new stuff" with the studios... and can set up his kids and granchildren to live in the biodomes at google. and not the slums of california in the real future of 2050.;)

  • June 4, 2012, 2:50 p.m. CST

    You have plenty of reviews that aren't videos

    by rakesh patel

    I like Arys vids, they aren't too long or self indulgent and provides an instant gut reaction.

  • thats my shit

  • June 4, 2012, 2:53 p.m. CST

    If you think Prometheus *might* be a let-down...

    by zinc_chameleon

    you wouldn't have believed the reaction to "Blade Runner" in late summer 1982. It was hyped as "Indiana Jones meets Ridley Scott's Alien!", and as you all know it was a Philip Marlowe story set in a dystopic future. Considered an artistic dud, with a nearly incomprehensible story line (arguably becase the book was written by a paranoid schizophrenic), it flopped big time. And, Alien wasn't a great big smash, it was considered the 'summer sleeper hit'; the big promotion at the time was for "Dawn of the Dead".

  • June 4, 2012, 2:53 p.m. CST


    by Dominic Murray

    Is this video really a review, seriously? (and strong 2001 influence, fuck right off really) I saw it last Friday, I was one that bought the hype, Alien "universe", Ridley etc but it was OK, it's not crap but it's not great or will it be a classic and the endgame does make it a fucking prequel despite any bullshit pretensions to the contrary. This is not a review, it's my comment, see the arcane1977 posting in this talkback for a review, not that crappy video.

  • It's been considered by some as one of the best sequels ever made.

  • June 4, 2012, 3:12 p.m. CST

    Go and see it!

    by DM71

    Hi there, Normally I never post anything, but I think this movie needs every positive word it can get. The thing is, I’ve seen it twice (I’m from Holland) now. The first time I saw it, I needed time to get my head around about what I just saw. I needed to see it again. The second time I saw it, I really enjoyed it even more than the first time. The tempo of the film is perfect. I like normal editing where you have some time to look at the sets and envirements, instead of quick editing as if it is a musicvideo. The score, some say it’s underwelming but I say the score is very effective. In fact I think it’s one of the best of the Alien related movies. About plot holes, I’ve seen Alien a million times and I believe there aren’t any! There isn’t a straight line that leads direct to Alien. Indeed now there is a change do develop a rich (and equally creepy) franchise. Yes people, as I said, the first time I saw it, I didn’t know what to think of it. Now I get more and more enthusiastic about it. About critics. Sometimes I believe that critics forget about quality of films and the excitement we use to have when watching beloved SF movies. If this movie has any flaws, there aren’t many. In think this is a movie that easily exceeds moderate quality, and that is an understatement. Come on fanboys, go and see this movie. It is a movie the genre so very much deserves.

  • June 4, 2012, 3:17 p.m. CST

    Maybe Tatum could have saved this

    by Domi'sInnerChild

    There's still time reshoots before the US release.

  • June 4, 2012, 3:21 p.m. CST

    by Cracklite

    Very insightful and quite eloquent, couldn't agree more. A wonderful review that puts professionels to shame!

  • This is 2012 sadly. Fox are in charge. $250m is yours to make something connected to Alien but more appealing to a (younger) audience. Play by our rules or we'll give it to Bay or whoever. I think he's done well considering it could never be the tense art he created in the first instalment. The script - well, I think that was part of the Fox deal. Spaight's draft was probably enough but Fox wanted their golden boy onboard too. It's clunky. It's flawed. It survives because of Ridley. Who'd want to make big movies in this day and age?

  • I stand by my thoughts that it was a bag of crap and a bag of crap it will remain.

  • June 4, 2012, 4:25 p.m. CST

    Stating Prometheus is 'a pile of crap'

    by Arcane

    Everybody is entitled to look at something and react by stating 'that is a pile of crap' I don't see anything wrong with that. On the other hand I think it's rather a waste to dismiss the movie without providing even a rudimentary argument for the reasons you might conclude it is 'a pile of crap' Ridley Scott and David Lindelof may not have achieved what they set out to, but make no mistake, the intention was to tackle some pretty deep themes. I still believe the film is fundamentally suffering from an identity crisis that, in turn, has provoked some unfair and knee-jerk criticism from fans who are still upset it wasn't what they (in thousands of individual ways) thought they were in store for. In fairness I think as much as the films own limitations are to blame so too is the marketing campaign. Doesn't matter what way you cut it... the film is still an ambitious undertaking.

  • June 4, 2012, 4:41 p.m. CST

    Okay, I'll ask it. What's the pretty deep theme?

    by Domi'sInnerChild

    What if Lovecraftian aliens created us and would our creations (more human than human androids) be disappointed with us as their creators? Honestly, I'm not sure if I give a fuck if Twiki wants to be a real boy or not and Blade Runner already covered this ground. We learned that makes a horrible movie from A.I.

  • June 4, 2012, 5:17 p.m. CST

    by Amazing Maurice

    Bravo. You just put every reviewer on this site to shame. Someone get a wire on this man.

  • June 4, 2012, 5:28 p.m. CST

    It appears to have life...but it doesn't....

    by Crawing

    Just back from a UK screening.... Before I start, to give you context I'm a massive Alien/Aliens fan, I hated Alien 3 initially but have adjusted to it over the years. Hated Alien 4 and the AVP films. Alien and Blade Runner are in my top ten. I love 2001: A Space Odyssey. So, if your in that camp, listen up people. I felt so lucky that the UK were getting the earlier release for once. That way, no real spoilers would spoil the film for me. Well, I now wish the UK release was a week later than the US. Why? Because I'd be given a heads up, read the poor reviews, read the spoilers, seen through the smoke and mirrors and wouldn't have signed up for this, that's why. In short, the film is a mess. I won't post actual spoilers in this thread. Not that that would make any difference anyway. Everything 'cool' has already been shown in the needless, over hyped marketing/trailers. The film has absolutely no tension. No hint of suspense. It consistently feels like a bunch of trailer shots edited together. Oh yes, its that bad. Basically Prometheus is a weak, pretentious sci-fi film that tries to elevate itself by a nod or two to the original Alien. And even at that, fails spectacularly. Tries to be 'all things to all men'. In short, it's a complete mess. There's plot holes aplenty (no doubt they were 'calculated' and will be 'answered' somewhat in a sequel of sorts...) and no redeeming features/expansion of anything related to either Alien or Aliens. If anything, it detracts from them. But hey, they've been clever - it's not an Alien film if you don't want it to be, right? Hmm...what's the last (poorly done) 30 seconds all about then, not to mention the countless nods to Alien and 'shudder' BLADE RUNNER (yup, the BLATANT nod's in there and is cringe-worthy) Want the kicker? You wouldn't know it was a Ridley Scott film if his name wasn't 'tagged' on the sell. You really wouldn't. There's no stand out, believable, atmospheric shots - and certainly none that 'last' long enough to absorb you (everything is cut far too short). To give you an idea - remember in the first Alien, where there was a 5-6 second or so shot of Ash moving his chair? If that same sequence was done in Prometheus it would be done in three quick shots - one of him starting to move, another showing the progress half way, and the final showing his arrival. IN TWO SECONDS. Too extreme an example? Watch the landing sequence and try not to laugh. The film is really badly paced, and seems to suffer from 'clipped' editing (i.e. 'hacked' scenes to get the run-time down). Dialogue is terrible. Script if terrible. Starts off intriguing but all too quickly decends into chaos (not of the entertaining kind) and throws aways story threads left right and centre only to create more. Kind of like LOST, funnily enoughs. Character motivations are frequently inexplicable and forget about any arcs, cause there ISNT A SINGLE ONE. The score has promise at times, but overall is dull and unmemorable. The film could have been directed by PW Anderson and you wouldn't have known the difference. Okay, okay that's perhaps too harsh - the space jockeys were interesting (at the beginning) but were quickly negated as the 'story' progressed. And in response to those saying everyone who hates on this film doesn't appreciate an 'intelligent narrative' or 'intelligent sci-fi' - YOU ARE IN DENIAL. This film is anything but. There may well be an extended edit somewhere which bridges towards those accolades but this version certainly doesn't. I like the intention of Prometheus, I get what they were pitching for. It's just the script and (to much surprise) the execution gets it WRONG. So WRONG. Really, I'm so disappointed - what a sell out, Ridley. Not quite a 'Lucas', but pretty damn close. Please DONT do a sequel/brother/sister/cousin/or whatever excuse you come up with to cover up the cracks 'in all about everything' to another of your classics: BLADE RUNNER. Leave it be, please. Why? LESS IS MORE.

  • June 4, 2012, 5:41 p.m. CST


    by Astronut

    I'm telling you, this is the new DAMN YOU MICHAEL BAY!!!!

  • June 4, 2012, 5:46 p.m. CST

    @ crawing - harsher verdict than me, but similar complaints

    by Metebelis3

    Every time the story started to veer into interesting territory, that scene or plotline would suddenly get fucked right off out of the picture, barely referred to again if at all. <p> Raise interesting questions and then just 'bottle out' of answering them. <p> </p> Smells of Lindeloff.

  • June 4, 2012, 6:09 p.m. CST

    Fortunesfool's review from the other thread says it best

    by catlettuce4

    This may take some time, so if you don’t want to read my rambling thoughts then i’ll just rip the bandage off now: It’s probably Ridley Scott’s worst film. It’s not all his fault though. Much of the films problems stem from the terrible screenplay by Damon Lindelof and John Spaihts which, at best, is high school philosophy report, and at worst, Transformers level stupid. After a vague opening in which a buff albino man kickstarts human evolution by drinking some black goo, falling apart and mingling with the oceans (apparently) we are introduced to our lead characters. Elizabeth Shaw (Noomi Rapace, good if a little bland) and her boyfriend Charlie Holloway (Logan Marshall-Green). She’s a ‘creationist’ with a leaning towards Christianity and he’s a Darwinist and a skeptic. Nothing is ever made of this potentially interesting relationship. Simply mentioning it seems to be enough for the screenwriters to feel that their ‘intellectual’ job is done. Shaw discovers a cave painting which matches up with others collected from civilisations around the world. They appear to be a star map to a distant galaxy which she interprets as an invitation from our creators to come and visit for tea and cakes. Rich old guy, Peter Weyland (Guy Pearce in lots of old guy make up) funds the intergalactic expedition and our heroes set off on their quest for THE answer aboard the good ship Prometheus. Amongst the random collection of scientists (I’ll get back to them) is an android called David 8 (Michael Fassbender, in his now obligatory role of ‘best thing in the movie by a country mile’). He is the best thing in the movie by a country mile. As the crew sleep, David 8 walks around checking vital signs, doing housekeeping and playing basketball while riding a bike. He also watches peoples dreams (never explained how). Shaw’s dream seems to be a badly written movie about a young girl and her dad. Patrick Wilson is in it. This scene is the first real alarm bell in the movie; a clumsy ‘TV movie of the week’ bit of exposition and character back story. So far the films been perfectly fine, nothing exceptional, but i’m hanging in there as it’s a Ridley Scott film. Once the Prometheus arrives at its destination and we get to spend some time with the crew, the film really begins to start falling apart. The highlights of the crew are Fifield (Sean Harris, excellent in last years underseen British thriller A Lonely Place to Die but wasted here) a slightly psychotic looking ’Geologist’ who has mercenary attitudes and very little social graces. Take a minute. Yes, a mercenary geologist. His movie buddy is Milburn (Rafe Spall), a botanist apparently, but you’d be forgiven for thinking his role was that of ‘ships moron’ or that he had tagged along as a favour to someone. These two are the comedy heart of the movie, although none of the humour is intentional. Their behaviour is more like badly behaved kids on a school trip than that of well regarded scientists. Fifield in particular seems to be a different character in each new scene. There’s also the Captain (Idris Elba) who does captain stuff and also has the handy ability to burst into rooms with new information to move the story along. And then there’s Meredith Vickers (Charlize Theron) the icy, all business Weyland Industries suit, who has a few secrets up her sleeve. In all honesty though, if this character were removed from the film it wouldn’t effect the movie in any way. It would, in fact, improve it slightly by removing two of the dumbest scenes (just run sideways woman and ‘father’). Needless to say, the Prometheus manages to appear on its destination planet almost right next to what they’re looking for. “God doesn’t build in straight lines” says Holloway, looking out the window of the ship. “Can you land over there?” (by that thing that is probably exactly what we’re here to see). A nitpick I know but is it really that hard to create a convenient way for them to arrive where they need to be? Moving on. An assortment of crew members set off to explore the creepy tunnels etc and are a bit miffed to discover that no one has put the kettle on for their arrival. In fact, they haven’t even had a tidy up. Alien bodies are everywhere (those elephant like Space Jockey things from Alien now known as Engineers) and they’ve left big pots of black goo everywhere. And a big statue of a head, which looks nice but doesn’t seem to have a reason for being. Oh, the films big scary villain is the black goo by the way. It’s pretty scary stuff this black goo, it can...well, it’s never really made clear what it actually does. It turns little worm things into big penis snakes (which professional Botanist and ship moron Milburn will approach as if it’s a cute little kitten) and does things to other people that would be big spoilers. At this point, most of the characters just go about doing their own thing and don’t really tell each other anything, even if it’s something that’s really important: I’m five months pregnant, for example, despite being sterile. Oh and those five months happened overnight. David 8 continues to be the best thing in it by a country mile, going about the business of following a linear narrative. He discovers a live Engineer in stasis and sets in motion the last act of the film. This amounts to a lot of exposition, a great caesarian section shocker (ruined by the characters ability to run and jump afterwards like it’s no big deal getting sliced open and stitched back up), a big dramatic moment which was given away in the trailer and the posters, a really dumb big monster moment and a gobsmackingly awful ending. Actually, two awful endings when you include the unnecessary last scene. All told, it’s a mess. Technically, it’s as accomplished as you would expect from Ridley Scott. It looks great, although never quite as stunning as some reviewers have claimed. The 3D is nice but washes out the image and makes everything look murky. I wouldn’t have missed it and would rather have seen it with the correct brightness and colour. It’s a pity then that all his efforts are wasted on the screenplay which is aiming for 2001: A Space Odyssey but has dialogue and characters that wouldn’t be out of place in Teen Slashers in Space 3. A real disappointment.

  • June 4, 2012, 7:32 p.m. CST

    So black goo DOES = Smoke Monster!!!

    by Domi'sInnerChild

  • Until of course it got away into a pipe and eluded the cat, found a spot to hide in, and started growing to adult size. You know if Alien was remade today, Brett would have found Jonesy dead and melted, as if he had tangled with the baby alien and maybe scratched it and gotten sprayed with acid.

  • At least with both incarnations of Battlestar Galactica the ancient astronaut concepts and the spiritual prophecy stuff was imbedded into the show and explored from the early episodes up through to the end of the series. Same with something like Stargate the movie, and thus the TV shows. With Prometheus they are tacking on the ancient astronaut stuff (badly it seems) to the Alien universe, which until say Alien Resurrection and AvP, was presented as a serious reasonably hard science fiction reality (FTL and a few things that were far fetched, but overall pretty fucking good on the realistic science fiction scale, especially for movie science fiction). Even AvP, which I really thought was a massive misfire, even the first AvP didn't demystify the space jockey or muck up the alien lifecycle like it seems Prometheus has done. There were Predators who used ancient humans as hosts for the Aliens so they could hunt them. AvP at least still prescribed to the standard lifecycle posited in Alien, Aliens, and continued in Alien 3 then goofed with via Frankenstein mad science in Alien Resurrection. Now, I'm not saying AvP is better than Prometheus. Just that the Alien saga has gotten more and more whackadoo mythical fantasy stuff added onto it in the more recent installments of the series.

  • Sure, it was originally Scott's, but when Cameron made the sequel "Aliens" he took all the good parts from the first movie, combined them with intense action and suspense, and even adventure, came up with a hell of a memorable score with James Horner, and made the PERFECT movie in this universe. He became the owner of the franchise and made it virtually impossible for anyone else to expand on it or reach the same level. The fact that the franchise was RUINED with the crap story we got with Alien 3, and left it impossible for Cameron to come back to it, just finished it off. What a shame too. This COULD HAVE BEEN the best sci-fi/action franchise in movie history.

  • June 4, 2012, 8:36 p.m. CST

    OK... That was a very good review.

    by GravyAkira

    Glad I finally took the time to watch this one. Im still excited to see this despite the somewhat mixed reactions. If all else fails, The Dark Knight Rises will not let me down. I really hope not.

  • June 4, 2012, 8:46 p.m. CST

    So, who created the Space Jockey? Pink goo from a tribble?

    by SunTzu77

  • June 4, 2012, 9 p.m. CST

    It was nearly like...

    by SunTzu77

    Lindeldoof... was sitting around with the script... watched 2001 and was like... hey... that mysterious black thing is cool... and hey... some people think humans derived from some primordial goo... LET'S MAKE BLACK GOO!

  • The origins and mythology of the Monolith are explored, starring Tom Cruise. After defeating the Discovery One's malfunctioning computer, the Siri 9000, Tom Cruise fights the last of the boss monsters that the Monolith spews forth, then suits up in a giant mechanized battle armor/space suit. As he maneuvers towards the giant black Monolith, a light appears in its center. It is a giant Apple logo, burning bright and firing a giant lazer beam that Tom must dodge. He engages his battlesuit thrusters and avoids the laser beam. Then a giant glowing Steve Jobs starchild appears and taunts him. Tom uses every last round of ammo and all his missiles to defeat the Steve Jobs entity, who then lets him inside the Monolith. Inside is not that weird white room with an old man in a bed, but the most bad ass man cave and bachelor pad ever imagined. In the bed is a naked Megan Fox who is making out with Charlize Theron.

  • June 4, 2012, 9:27 p.m. CST

    No, Jonesy would have been replaced with a brooding teenager

    by Domi'sInnerChild

    "Jonesy, wake up and clean the kitchen", "I don't even want to be here. My girlfriend aged to an old lady while I was in hypersleep. I wish we were vampires."

  • If for one minute this idiot thinks James Cameron is the original ** OWNER ** of the fucking ALIEN CONCEPT AND/OR UNIVERSE, then holy FUCK does he have shit for brains. Ridley may be a FOOL TODAY, but he gave us one of the greatest fucking cinematic sci-fi gifts of ALL - - TIME. EAT IT BITCHES.

  • ...why not make a movie about just that then? Why do you need the Alienverse to tell that story? The mystery of the Alien is just another persons idea about creation/ancient astronaut etc and that kind of sucks IMO. Whittling down the Alien origins to just a bio-weapon being used by big giant dudes who created humans...lame. Oh and I have not seen the movie but I got most of that info from the trailer that came out months ago. First thing I said when I saw the trailer was... "Oh they are using Chariots Of The Gods (which was referenced in Carpenters "The Thing" BTW) as the meat & potatoes of the new Alienverse movie.I guess that's kind of cool,but...nah after second thoughts. That's weak." Again my opinion does'nt mean jack but I think I may just stick to the Alien remaining a mystery.Since the writer(s)/creator(s) of Prometheus came up with an origin that has kind of been on the radar for awhile now.

  • June 4, 2012, 9:54 p.m. CST

    Cameron had the right idea for a sequel however

    by Domi'sInnerChild

    How many times have people tried to rehash what made the original work. See Alien 3 and maybe Prometheus. Aliens had the right idea of changing the genre and playing in the world, not relying on another lone Alien killing a crew like a Friday the 13th movie (again, see the Alien 3 failure).

  • and would tease it and prod it with a piece of metal pipe before getting bored and just leaving while the acid blood eats into the ship. The alien would then grow to full size and kill Jonesy while he bangs his old lady girlfriend.

  • June 4, 2012, 10:28 p.m. CST


    by Funis4assholes

    were the 'plot holes' you mentioned?

  • Same shit bothered me about the Star Wars prequels. I'm not retarded, I understand it's because the original movies were made in the 70's, and their predictions about future tech were pretty limited. But once you've established things like that, don't you have to stick with it? How can these ships be flying around with 3D holographic displays, and then decades later, they've got crappy old green computer renderings and flashing push buttons? That always bothers me about sequels like this. Am I the only one?

  • June 5, 2012, 12:31 a.m. CST

    I meant mussing up the sets etc...

    by kenchun24

  • June 5, 2012, 2:23 a.m. CST

    mr. moe - come on, you can beg for attention better than that

    by antonphd

  • June 5, 2012, 2:26 a.m. CST

    without question, Alien is a better film than Aliens

    by antonphd

    just as The Abyss is a better film than Avatar (and for the exact same reasons)

  • June 5, 2012, 2:38 a.m. CST

    I question it. Aliens is a better film than Alien

    by Domi'sInnerChild

    just as The Empire Strikes Back is a better film than Star Wars (and for the exact same reasons).

  • June 5, 2012, 2:44 a.m. CST

    The question is if Prometheus is better than Avatar

    by Domi'sInnerChild

    Eye candy, lousy scripts, shit you've seen before, preachy crap you don't care about, and the feeling it's just a payday for a past their prime director.

  • June 5, 2012, 3:16 a.m. CST

    Hopefully, Cameron will adapt "The Chariots Still Crash."

    by SunTzu77

  • LOL, space jockeys, lol... come on Ridley... holy sh** what a crap story he ran with.

  • June 5, 2012, 4:55 a.m. CST

    AVATAR does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    Is PROMETHEUS better than AVATAR? As a sci if fan who really genuinely enjoyed both of them that's a really interesting question. For me the best bits, the strongest sequences, in PROMETHEUS are better than the best bits in AVATAR. But as a coherent whole AVATAR achieves it's aims better than PROMETHEUS. In PROMETHEUS's favor it is more mature, more visceral and with more adult moments - such as fifields berserk rampage and the squirm inducing medipod moment. The fx, set design and cinematography award would also go to PROMETHEUS for me. The environments and the giant engineers look completely real, while navi and the pandora look more like a very good animated movie. Acting and script is a tie. Both films feature some memorable characters and both drop some changers in the script dept. In mood, PROMETHEUS is dour and dark, AVATAR is more about feeling hope, liberation. AVATAR is a crowd pleaser that leaves you coming out of the cinema on a high. PROMETHEUS is a downer in comparison. Depth. Well AVATAR is all there on screen, watch the movie and forget it. PROMETHEUS certainly leaves you with more food for thought. Damn, I'm really finding this too close to call. I think AVATAR might just take it for, simply because it achieves it's aims better and is a crowd please. What do you guys think?

  • June 5, 2012, 6:57 a.m. CST

    Avatar and Prometheus

    by unparanoid_android

    two massive disappointments from directors well past their prime. But Prometheus is better because it at least tried to tackle some big themes, it had at least one scene that was better than anything in Avatar, and most importantly it didn't have any unobtainium.

  • June 5, 2012, 7:08 a.m. CST

    Except that unobtanium is...

    by catlettuce4

    an ironic joke name in the movie (the characters know it is a joke). There's no such self awareness in Promothudeus

  • June 5, 2012, 7:16 a.m. CST

    The critics start to doubt. Guardian

    by catlettuce4

    Prometheus has landed … to mixed atmospheric readings


  • June 5, 2012, 7:51 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    catlettuce4, you're trying to troll the movie but conveniently overlooked the fact that the Guardian article leads with: *Those who have dared to believe that Ridley Scott is still capable of adding something to the Alien canon can breathe a sigh of relief. The first reviews are in for Prometheus, the veteran British film-maker's first science fiction project in more than three decades, and they are broadly positive. The 87% "fresh" audience rating on makes it one of the year's best-received saturation-release films* As much as you may want PROMETHEUS to be getting one star reviews from all the pro critics to tally up with your take on it as the worst film ever made, its simply not happening.

  • June 5, 2012, 8 a.m. CST

    no subject

    by JAMF

    no subject no subject no subject no subject no subject no subject that's so clever, it hasn't gotten boring at all.

  • June 5, 2012, 8:01 a.m. CST

    there's still 200 critic reviews to come in, you know

    by JAMF

    from the americans... i wouldn't write the film off as a masterpiece just yet (if we're gonna call it that based on rt scores)

  • June 5, 2012, 8:26 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    Jamf, no one's calling PROMETHEUS a *masterpiece* thats your words. I think *broadly positive* seems to be the critical reaction. Personally I gave it 4 out of 5, not a classic and not a patch on ALIEN or ALIENS.

  • June 5, 2012, 9:16 a.m. CST

    oh okay jeez i'm sorry

    by JAMF

  • get fucking real idiot

  • June 5, 2012, 10:01 a.m. CST

    got no opinion on it at all really

    by JAMF

    saw it once, nothing special. will never see it again. what's the big hoohaa?

  • June 5, 2012, 10:02 a.m. CST

    Dear Mr Cobra Kai

    by catlettuce4

    Title of Guardian article "Prometheus has landed … to mixed atmospheric readings" and to finish your quoted section - literally finish, it's the rest of the sentence! "...and yet there's a thread of uncertainty running through even the most gushing of reviews, a sense that Scott has produced an epic entertainment without actually delivering a particularly "good" film." I'd call that a fail on your part, but we can agree to wait and see

  • *They're just pissing on us without even giving us the courtesy of calling it rain.* While PROMETHEUS has some punk rawk geologist asking if the rain is *alien piss*. Or something to that effect from what I heard in a review. I hope that I am wrong.

  • June 5, 2012, 11:02 a.m. CST


    by AllThosePowers


  • June 5, 2012, 11:15 a.m. CST

    Dances With Blue People

    by kells

    But it looks cool and stuff. And stuff.

  • June 5, 2012, 11:55 a.m. CST


    by Johnny Wrong way he was going to say anything BUT positive things about it, even though it is a mess.

  • June 5, 2012, 12:10 p.m. CST

    by Johnny Wrong

    ...Bravo! The first ACCURATE and WELL-BALANCED review I've read. The film's FAR from perfect, downright messy in places, but with redeeming qualitities. Shame Lindelof was involved. Still...I'm gonna catch the Director's Cut when it comes out. Maybe Ridders will "pull a Kingdom Of Heaven". And badmrwonka...that technology topic has been covered A MILLION TIMES ALREADY!!!

  • June 5, 2012, 1:02 p.m. CST


    by foree forehead

    i tried to watch some of it on tv the other day but some cartoon with blue aliens kept interrupting the movie. and it was even worse than the human movie with military professionals speaking VERY SERIOUSLY toward computer screens.

  • June 5, 2012, 1:49 p.m. CST


    by Kremzeek

    It's no weirder than me being the exact opposite. I hate podcasts and video reviews. I'd much rather read an article. Funny and a bit ironic, too... since I don't read books or anything in my leisure time.

  • I am VERY happy that you felt the 3d not only made sense for this movie, but truly enhances it. I think the BIG problem with 3d is still the conversions. Matter of fact, I'm looking forward to seeing Gatsby because of the 3d more than almost anything. I want to see how 3d works in a drama, big/flamboyant drama as it is. It's still a drama, shot in 3d. That excites me more than any genre film shot in 3d right now. That film could be 3d's vindication. Because I KNOW that it can enhance any type of film. I've been saying now for years that 3d needs its *My Dinner with Andre*. It requires that, as a format. I know that flies in the face of the opinions of... pretty much the majority here. Wouldn't be the first time for me, here. I think when a few years have passed, many of you will be on my side on this. Especially when the success of it leads to 3d implemented more into our home entertainments. Things like real VR, or VR overlay on our realities will be HUGE. I see people in 10 years or less.... (insane people, mostly, but in that good way... people who do LARPing and such) LIVING their entire lives(maybe not at work) with a virtual overlay of a fantastical universe over our own universe. And I WANT that to happen, quickly. It's taken far too long to happen. Imagine what it could do for the mental health and happiness of people living in small spaces, or sharing small living spaces with multiple people. I won't be someone who will immerse myself in such worlds with addictive behaviours, but I can see that happening as well. And the media will hype that angle for a while, too. I can see how amazing it would be to walk into your downtown and instead of seeing your usual drab, present day city, you see the world of, say, Blade Runner in its place. With real people and shops still there (so you don't run into things and make a further fool of yourself), just enhanced and added-to. Going so far as to even have interiors mapped (when allowed), even your own homes. Limitations will be needed of course. You can't have people shooting guns , even virtual ones, at people in the mall. But there could be HUGE spaces dedicated to multiple uses. Malls could be converted for a few hours in the early mornings or late nights into an abandoned, post-apocalyptic zombie-mall. Or in your goggles, it's the interior of a gigantic space station over-run with hostile aliens. The possibilities are endless... and exciting!!! I want that sooner than later, and the more 3d content and display/presentation tech is embraced and improved upon, the closer we are to it. Yeah, it's a stretch. Yeah, it's slightly insane. But I'm good with that. It's the main reason I prefer 3d films right now. I don't skip great films just because they aren't 3d, but given the option between 3d and 2d, I'll choose the 3d screenings , even if its a conversion. No matter how much I HATE conversions. Anyway, if you read this thanks for doing so. And I hope some of you get where I'm coming from, even if that place is Nutbaggery, Ohio. Cheers.

  • June 5, 2012, 2:42 p.m. CST

    badmrwonka You're not the only one, no.

    by gotilk

    I agree, it does feel... wrong. But I prefer the update still. Yeah it bugs me, I talked with a friend of mine the other night for about an hour about this very same topic. He was even more critical of it than I was, yet we still agreed that black screens with green text would have just looked too silly to audiences now.

  • June 5, 2012, 2:46 p.m. CST

    Hey now...

    by gotilk

    I had a bird named Chirpy Little Prick and he was a WONDERFUL bird. He'd peck your eyes out, but he was usually a sweety.

  • June 5, 2012, 3:36 p.m. CST

    I am disappointed

    by Sandman

    I've been trying to work through my feelings about this film since I saw it a couple of days ago. Everything I saw and heard about this had me thinking that we might be in for something very special. Ridley Scott at his best is a genius, and I regard Alien as one of his best. When I heard that he was going to do a prequel to Alien, I was interested. When I heard that he was going to explore the background to the Space Jockey, I was sold. Count me in! When I heard that this was a "not quite a prequel" but it's own thing, I was only more intrigued - and the initial trailers had me gagging for it. I actually went into spoiler avoidance mode for the last few weeks, seeking to go into this as cold as I could. I'm not quite sure what I expected... other than revelations. I expected to be surprised by the Space Jockeys. I expected that when we heard about them and their purposes, I would go "wow!" I didn't go "wow". I didn't even go "huh?" I went "Um... really?" Maybe I expected too much. I wasn't really thinking of this film as a monster/horror movie... I was thinking that in spirit it would be more "Close Encounters" with a Ridley twist than that. And the movie does dangle tantalising ideas along those lines - the idea that aliens have walked the Earth before, which appears in the trailers. The idea of mankind going to "meet god". The idea of finding out about the Jockeys and their purpose. These are all dangled... and then pretty much left to dangle. There's no follow through on any of it, no resolution. It's just kind of "hey, here's an idea. Make of it what you will, whilst I dangle another idea and then throw a monster at you." I'm not complaining that the movie doesn't explain every little thing. I'm fine with a little mystery, and a little "work it out for yourself". But there actually has to BE an answer there for you to work out. There really doesn't seem to be and answers available, in this movie. No, this really isn't an "ideas" movie as such. It's a monster/horror movie. It's a movie about nasty beasts killing people. And unfortunately, that's about all it is. And even more unfortunately, it's not a very good one. I'm going to get into spoiler territory now, so stop reading if spoilers are not for you. My first big disappointment in this film is the treatment of the Space Jockeys, aka the Engineers. Remember that gigantic creepy skeleton thing in the chair in Alien? Remember the weirdly shaped skull? That's not a skull. That's a helmet. It lifts off, and underneath it... the Engineers look just like you and me. Only pale. Are you excited by that prospect? Does it intrigue you? It disappointed the hell out of me. As for their motivations, their story... Ridley has once or twice opined that the Alien eggs are basically biological weapons that the Engineers drop on their enemies. And that's what he goes with. And that is pretty much the entirety of what we learn about them in this movie. The use biological weapons to attack people, and they do it because... well, who knows? Apparently they are just bad people. Perhaps they are one of those "Warrior races" so beloved of science fiction, that go around attacking people for no reason. You know, like the Klingons in Star Trek. If you were ever excited to ponder the possibilities that the Space Jockey offered... well, this is what is delivered up. And it's about all that is delivered up regarding them. It's so very ORDINARY, and if you go in expecting grand sweeping revelations, it's a big disappointment. Still, I can't honestly feel too bad that Scott made a monster movie instead of the movie I wanted him to make. It's HIS movie after all, and we should judge it on its own terms. So how is it as a monster movie? It's poor, frankly. Remember how the Alien in the first film worked? There was a remorseless, relentless logic to it. A logic that was there largely because the Xenomorph's life cycle was directly based in the actual biology of real creatures. It was horrific, because the logic of these creatures is that they HAVE to kill us. The Xenomorphs literally must kill us to reproduce, to continue the existence of their species. In Prometheus, the monsters have no logic. They come from a black goo that the Engineers use as their bioweapon, but what the goo actually does is different in every case, and apparently completely random. In one case, it turns tiny worms into giant super-strong worms with acid for blood that can force their way down your throat. In another person, the same thing turns him into a sort of mutated zombie who rampages around killing everyone in sight whilst they shoot at him with guns and flamethrowers. One infected person has sex with a woman and infects her - and the result is that she becomes pregnant with a squid monster. But once she has that removed, she is apparently completely free of further infection and perfectly fine. But the squid monster can act as a face-hugger and infect somebody else, who then gives birth to a Xenomorph. Just contemplate that last one. The greatest weakness of the Xenomorph, a weakness common to any parasite, is the limited supply of hosts. All those eggs the Nostromo crew found, and only one Xenomorph resulted because only one person got close enough. If the Xenomorphs reproduced more like birds or reptiles, Ripley would have faced a thousand of them. Prometheus gives us a Xenomorph whose lifecycle is : Black goo infects man. Man has sex with and infects woman. Woman gives birth to squid monster. Squid monster sticks tube down somebody's throat. That guy grows a Xenomorph. Not one, not two, but THREE hosts are required. It's beyond ridiculous. There are no rules here, no logic, the monsters just do whatever Ridley thought would be cool and gross to the audience. And as a result they leave us unmoved and uninvolved. All this really tries to be is a monster movie. It's a modest ambition, but even on that level a monster movie MUST have a really good, clear, threatening monster. Prometheus crowds the story with contradictory nonsensical monsters, and it's a flaw that it never recovers from.

  • June 5, 2012, 4:42 p.m. CST

    no matter how advanced space travel gets

    by JAMF

    i think we'll still use very 'old fashioned' tactile tech in spaceships. it makes the most sense. tech like touchscreens and holo displays etc which rely on a perfect environment and have so many things that can go so easily wrong, are just a stupid idea. it should be the most practical and tactile equipment like buttons that push in and out and easy to read monochrome displays. the people who designed the prometheus user interface weren't thinking about the practicalities at all. if one of those displays failed they'd be fucked. i bet they couldn't even rewire/repair anything on the fly because all the cabling's sealed inside a magic box only the spacedock engineers can access.

  • June 5, 2012, 6:36 p.m. CST

    I think this film is being wrongly maligned.

    by tyler_turden

    Here is my take.

  • June 5, 2012, 6:36 p.m. CST

    jamf -- the Prometheus being too fancy pants

    by lv_426

    Maybe that was a conscious decision to show the hubris of Weyland or something? Since it was his ship built for such a specific mission and all. The Nostromo was probably built by a more fiscally minded committee that wanted a simpler level of efficiency and no frills since the crew would be spending a lot of time in hypersleep. I agree with you though. I like a certain type of rugged and utilitarian level of hardware in sci-fi films.

  • June 5, 2012, 6:47 p.m. CST

    gotilk -- augmented reality

    by lv_426

    I agree. I think you could take something like you suggested with LARPing, or paintball for instance, and have augmented reality turning it into sort a fusion of actual real life physical sport and multiplayer video game. Think of Lazer Tag with AR set in the Terminator's future war of 2029. Oh yeah, I'd buy that for a dollar! Or how about road trips with historical or sci-fi/fantasy AR overlays when you look out the window? Some kid 20 years from now on a road trip to the Grand Canyon will probably be able to stare out the window of his parent's minivan and in stead of just seeing the Arizona desert, he'll see Tatooine or Arrakis or whatever he chooses from the list of mapped AR overlays.

  • June 6, 2012, 4:39 a.m. CST

    The problem is the film isn't intellectual...

    by SunTzu77

    I found absolutely nothing new in film that hasn't been discussed since the late 60s. When so called intellectuals bring up the "seeding" idea I lose it - laughing as if I was hopped up on N20. A good read... Scott believes this film is highbrow and groundbreaking - nope. It's re-hashed old hat. There is so much that Scott could have done with the film and the back story of the Space Jockeys. Instead, "Prometheus" is like a hot blonde with an IQ of 71. It's beautiful to look at, but there's nothing under the hood.

  • June 6, 2012, 4:41 a.m. CST


    by SunTzu77

    The film isn't intellectual or emotional... I simply couldn't connect with it on any level except the DP work. The plot was paper thin and the characters were flat.

  • June 6, 2012, 4:43 a.m. CST

    Prometheus is a "midichlorian" failure.

    by SunTzu77

  • June 6, 2012, 7:14 a.m. CST

    What I didn't want (and it sounds like we got) is more sci-fi horror

    by Michael Morning

    Sorry, but sci-fi horror is cheap sci-fi. ALIEN did it best and it should've ended there. I'm SO tired of all these potentially good sci-fi movies defaulting to horror...EVENT HORIZON, SUNSHINE, etc. Let's get back to some decent sci-fi that doesn't devolve in the third act to a slasher-flick-in-space. I'm no fan of AVATAR due to its derivative storyline, but at least it completely avoided the sci-fi horror pitfall of most sci-fi nowadays.

  • June 6, 2012, 5:15 p.m. CST

    Psychos, Savages and Monsters... in Space!

    by animatronicmojo

    There must be ten million or more great science fiction stories, but this is all we ever get in movies anymore. So tiresome. Man, this one has gone from a must-see in the theater, to a I'll be skimming it for money shots on netflix some night when I've got nothing better to do.

  • June 9, 2012, 2:26 p.m. CST

    I take it all take it all take it all back

    by animatronicmojo

    Much better than I expected. My favorite Ridley Scott movie in 30 years. <P> Enjoyed the themes and suggestive melding of the Blade Runner and Alien universes, and I definitely want to see two more, as part of an epic space opera.

  • June 9, 2012, 3:45 p.m. CST

    I'm with you heyoucantlaughatthat

    by Vision

    I'm SO ***** TIRED of people who can't be bothered to write articles anymore. I have sounds going on HERE. Watch TV, listen to a podcast or music - I don't want to have to stop it all to listen to their crap. Write it down or you are not worthy of my attention.