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So, This BLADE RUNNER Sequel...

Published at: May 29, 2012, 9:19 a.m. CST

Nordling here.

So what do we know about BLADE RUNNER II (an unlikely title, but it'll do for now)?  We know quite a bit; more so than PROMETHEUS at this point in pre-production, anyway.  Ridley Scott plans on directing the follow-up (how quickly that happens depends on his schedule; Scott isn't exactly a spring chicken anymore),  and Hampton Fancher, who co-wrote the original, will be working on the script.  This is a bonafide sequel - not a sidequel, requel, prequel, reimagining or other such nonsense.  I hope that David Peoples gets involved as well; his work on BLADE RUNNER, UNFORGIVEN, and TWELVE MONKEYS is unparalleled.  He's one of the best screenwriters out there.

Ridley Scott also mentioned that the protagonist will be female - a female Blade Runner perhaps? - and that the sequel takes place several years after the original.  The original took place in 2019, and I don't anticipate NEXUS 6 model androids by then in real life, but who knows.  What we also know is that Scott wants Harrison Ford to be involved in some capacity.  Speaking to the Independent, Scott said, on whether Ford would star, "I don’t think it’ll be Harry. But I’ve got to have him in it somewhere. That’d be amusing."  Considering that Ford's aged some since the original, I wonder if that means he's not a Replicant after all, despite Scott's insistence otherwise.  Or he's a special model that doesn't have termination dates.  I never bought the whole Deckard-as-Replicant thing anyway - I much prefer the more ambiguous take on it.

When will BLADE RUNNER II hit screens?  No time soon - Scott's working on THE COUNSELOR, based on Cormac McCarthy's original screenplay, and that will take about two years turnaround, knowing Scott's history.  He'll be 75 this year - he's incredibly prolific for his age, and I hope he stays in the best of health, but the years do take their toll.  There's also fan reaction to consider - do we need another BLADE RUNNER movie?  If Scott has an interesting take on it, I'm all for another one, but I hope the ambiguity remains.  What does it mean to be human?  It's a question that the movie, wisely, doesn't answer, and we are left with our own ideas on what "human" really means.  I watched the theatrical cut this weekend, and it's my preferred cut of the film, voice-over and all.  I like Deckard's exhausted voice in the movie, although I'm not terribly keen on the final happy ending.  I doubt that any sequel will have as many edits, but if he's given the budget and the freedom, I think we'll get a definitive take on the material.

Nordling, out.  Follow me on Twitter!

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  • May 29, 2012, 9:22 a.m. CST

    First..

    by PR Deltoid

    ...ahh thats better!

  • May 29, 2012, 9:22 a.m. CST

    Rehash and shit throwing

    by waxxel

    Great Article!

  • May 29, 2012, 9:22 a.m. CST

    2nd damn! LOL

    by Joe

  • May 29, 2012, 9:22 a.m. CST

    bah not even! LOL

    by Joe

  • It could be his Opus

  • May 29, 2012, 9:24 a.m. CST

    'I don't think it'll be Harry?' Sigh.

    by 3774

    Then don't bother. It's just a stupid Where's Waldo distraction otherwise.

  • May 29, 2012, 9:27 a.m. CST

    Ford is a character

    by gaygoonie

    He's turned down some great films (A History of Violence, Big, Jurassic Park, JFK, Kinsey, Misery, Traffic, Saving Private Ryan, Schindler's List, Alien, Cape Fear) while turning up in some serious crap (Hollywood Homicide, anyone?). I wonder what his m.o. is?

  • May 29, 2012, 9:29 a.m. CST

    So forgive me for mentioning it.

    by Hint_of_Smegma

    But what the fuck was the point of this article? No more news, just a collected rehash of what we already know.

  • May 29, 2012, 9:31 a.m. CST

    Book Sequels...KW Jeter

    by PR Deltoid

    The Edge of Human; was ok, Replicant Night; I threw in the bin, and didnt bother with final book Eye of Talon. Just hope the sequel doesnt rely on anything that Jeter wrote.

  • May 29, 2012, 9:32 a.m. CST

    Blade Runner has one of the most awkward tag lines ever.

    by alienindisguise

  • Like, whatever happened in between Blade Runners 1 and 2 made Deckard the savior of the replicants or whatever.

  • May 29, 2012, 9:38 a.m. CST

    So forgive me for answering it.

    by 3774

    I think the purpose was to give talkbackers a formal place to discuss it, since the talkbacks are the primary reason most people come here. Given the fact that there's a dozen other websites you can demand split-second breaking news from, I'm not sure what the point of the anger is. Calm down, internet.

  • May 29, 2012, 9:38 a.m. CST

    The Voice-Over

    by Craig

    Sounds exhausted because Ford thought it was stupid. Most everyone involved did. Final Cut all day every day. If you haven't read Future Noir: The Making of Blade Runner. Should actually be due for an update since it doesn't include the final cut.

  • ...TITANS WILL CLASH!

  • May 29, 2012, 9:43 a.m. CST

    by MikeTheSpike

    Jesus Christ, Ridley Scott is 75?

  • May 29, 2012, 9:48 a.m. CST

    Don't cram Ford in there just for the hell of it

    by Mugato5150

    Although it would answer the goofy notion that he's a replicant.

  • May 29, 2012, 9:51 a.m. CST

    Ridley should have an A.I. back up plan

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Just in case he gets too old or passes on. Maybe Fincher if he was interested in doing another sequel to a Ridley Scott film.

  • May 29, 2012, 9:53 a.m. CST

    Never Understood why:

    by lochkray

    Why does Harrison Ford look nothing like Harrison Ford in the classic Blade Runner poster? And, while we're at it, why does Sean Young look like an anorexic Betty Boop? Great poster. Terrible faces.

  • May 29, 2012, 9:55 a.m. CST

    Why are you still debating the Ford As Replicant thing?

    by Fish Tank

    Gaff leaves an origami unicorn for Deckard. Deckard had dreams of a unicorn. Gaff is telling Deckard he's a replicant and knows it because he knows his dreams. Done. Accept it.

  • May 29, 2012, 9:55 a.m. CST

    Sean Young will be campaigning to be in this!

    by Simpsonian

  • May 29, 2012, 9:57 a.m. CST

    They'll probably use a CGI Deckard...

    by blackmantis

    ...like the Mongoloid CGI Schwarzenegger in T4.

  • May 29, 2012, 9:57 a.m. CST

    Blade Runner 2: Blade Runnier

    by Mickster_Island

  • May 29, 2012, 9:58 a.m. CST

    If you really want more Blade Runner...

    by victor laszlo

    watch Battlestar Galactica. That show is the 1st work of science fiction cinema to understand and catch the thematic/philosophical ball Scott threw. RDM & Co. completed the pass and then ran it the rest of the way down the field. You even get Edward James Olmos. This 'sequel' is a terrible idea as there is far more to lose than to gain. How about FOREVER WAR, Sir Ridley?

  • It practically writes itself.

  • May 29, 2012, 10:03 a.m. CST

    Scott just wants to mess with Cameron with a Battle Angel knockoff

    by Domi'sInnerChild

  • May 29, 2012, 10:03 a.m. CST

    "I never bought the whole Deckard-as-Replicant thing anyway"

    by AtheistScum

    I am with you on that 100% - I don't think the movie makes any sense if Deckard is a Replicant. The fact that Scott thinks Deckard is a Replicant really worries me. I liked the original theatrical version of the movie, even the voice-over (which was supposedly done at the insistence of the producers) and hated the director's cuts. I'm worried about what Scott is going to do to Blade Runner and really wish this movie would not get made, or at least not made by Scott.

  • May 29, 2012, 10:10 a.m. CST

    I honestly wouldn't mind a female protagonist.

    by TheMachinist

    Colombiana and Haywire, no matter how short on plot, proved that you can have a female lead without going all "GIRL POWER MEN ARE TERRIBLE!". Whether or not it works within the context of this, I haven't a clue.

  • He's tried to retrofit that story back into the movie he shot, but it just doesn't fit. It's a good idea for a story. So if he wants to actually tell that story this time, I'm fine with it.

  • The only time he's broken that pace is in the run up to big projects like Kingdom Of Heaven, Robin Hood and Prometheus. Strikes me as a bit ageist to assume he's slowing down and feeling the effects of time when he's showing no outward signs that this is the case. Knowing Scott's history I think it's more likely The Councelor will come out next year sometime. All that said, though it's an intriguing idea I can't say I want this to happen. I'd want a better reason to follow up Deckard's story that because he'd find it 'amusing' to be honest. The slightly underwhelming early buzz on Prometheus doesn't improve my optimism either.

  • May 29, 2012, 10:22 a.m. CST

    Blade Runner II: Still No Damn Electric Sheep

    by coz

    Blade Runner isn't a piss in the wind compared to the original book. And this sequel bullshit just prolongs the time we'll have to wait for a proper adaptation of it.

  • Holy shit, have you never read any Philip K. Dick in your life...same goes for Nordling.

  • May 29, 2012, 10:25 a.m. CST

    The problem with female protagonists in action films...

    by Jaster Mareel

    The only way to make them interesting is to have them act like a male. At that point....why not just use a male?

  • It's been copied so many times, can it give us something unique in the sequel?

  • May 29, 2012, 10:31 a.m. CST

    Kinship!

    by veteran_of_mu

    You don't think Deckard's a skin job, explain Batty's line about Kinship. And how Batty knows Deckard's name. And how Deckard does a one-handed pull-up with 2 broken fingers. And glowing eyes. And, oh yeah, the unicorn. You think all that stuff is meaningless, you might want to take that V-K test yourself ...

  • May 29, 2012, 10:31 a.m. CST

    75 is the new 60...

    by snowman12964

    ...anyway, he looks damn good for 75. Or actually 74, will be 75 on Nov. 30th.

  • May 29, 2012, 10:31 a.m. CST

    "That'd be amusing..."

    by tomandshell

    He knows that putting Ford in the sequel, even for five minutes, would destroy all the replicant theories, and he finds that amusing. I do, too.

  • May 29, 2012, 10:32 a.m. CST

    If they want to feature Ford . . .

    by Nice Marmot

    . . . why not just set it in 2050 or so? Of course that's just me hoping he'd be an aged human and not a replicant . . .

  • May 29, 2012, 10:33 a.m. CST

    Simple... She's hunting Deckard.

    by Steve

    With the advances in CGI why couldn't this yet unknown female lead be hunting Deckard? Harrison Ford cold still play the role just be youthed up. We got a young Jeff Bridges in Tron.

  • May 29, 2012, 10:38 a.m. CST

    DO NOT WANT

    by ATARI

  • the whole point was that he was more like a replicant than the replicants. He was a cold blooded killer and at the end, a replicant showed him mercy because the replicant appreciated human life. If Deckard is a robot too, it's meaningless. So would pulling out the "unlimited lifespan" thing.

  • May 29, 2012, 10:39 a.m. CST

    A female Blade Runner hunting Deckard would make sense.

    by impossibledreamers

    After all, he left with an experimental replicant that has no age restriction. Rachel would have some significant value to Tyrell Corp. If they followed Jeter's books, the company is still running just dandy under the control of Sarah Tyrell - the infamous niece. Jeter's 4th Blade Runner book followed - "The story follows Iris, another Blade Runner, on an assignment to find Tyrell's owl, which seems to have special importance for the Tyrell Corporation and other dubious organizations."

  • May 29, 2012, 10:40 a.m. CST

    So this Blade Runner Sequel

    by tomdolan04

    Ridley says it's going be a woman as the lead in an interview somewhere four days ago but at present the script is being written and nothings set in stone. Ford may or may not show depending whether he's got his usual Mr Grumpy pants head on. <p> There's already an article about Blade Runner in the top 10 talkbacks to talk about all things sequel. When's it going to be released? No idea. About? No idea. Do we need another movie? No idea. <p> Quick somebody call the Infamous Billy The Kidd, we need his take an insight into this.

  • May 29, 2012, 10:43 a.m. CST

    @caractacuspotts

    by Baron Von Penguin

    Does Batty actually say that word? I've been watching this film since I was nine when we got a pirate betamax copy and I've seen it hundreds of times. Literally! I heard many years ago from my brother that this is the word uttered by Batty as he catches Deckard from falling but all I here is a non specific utterance that could in theory be anything. Recently watching the Ultimate Cut on Blu Ray I decided to see what the subtitles said and of course they were blank at this point. I'm not saying "Kinship" isn't said I'm genuinely curious to know if he really does say that, infact I like the idea of it but I just don't recall seeing it officially stated anywhere. Mind you the whole Deckard Replicant thing is all over the gaff too haha!

  • May 29, 2012, 10:47 a.m. CST

    More Legend, please.

    by adeceasedfan

    Blade Runner notsomuch.

  • ...And if he was predisposed to mercy, I guess he would have spared Sebastian's life...after all, he was just a sad, lonely little man who made toys to keep him company and thought of Batty and Priss as friends. His soliloquy at the end is from one short-lived machine to another short-lived machine...who doesn't know it yet. Case closed.

  • May 29, 2012, 10:53 a.m. CST

    Cash grab

    by Patch

    This is so unnecessary...

  • May 29, 2012, 10:56 a.m. CST

    it's called a character arc, burnhollywood

    by Mugato5150

  • May 29, 2012, 11:19 a.m. CST

    Scott hasn't slowed down

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Didn't he do more films last decade than he did from 1977-1999?

  • From the French reviews. Damn you electric alien invasion and Lost guy writers!

  • May 29, 2012, 11:22 a.m. CST

    He'll be the geisha in that building-side commercial.

    by durhay

  • May 29, 2012, 11:23 a.m. CST

    Memo to Ridley:

    by zodiacman

    Don't die.

  • May 29, 2012, 11:24 a.m. CST

    dasheight, care to cite those early reviews?

    by TheLastCleric

    I’m not calling you a liar by any means but I wasn’t aware there had been a single leaked review of the full film. I’d also love to know if anyone calling Prometheus a disappointment expected chest-busters and a fight with an Alien queen.

  • May 29, 2012, 11:28 a.m. CST

    I am a big fan, like many of you, but

    by jawaburger

    I do not want Harrison Ford any where near this sequel. Or anyone from the first film.

  • May 29, 2012, 11:28 a.m. CST

    Harrison Ford turns 70 in a few months. Seventy.

    by Ricardo

    Remember when you were kids, decades ago, and your grandparents were around 70 or 80 years old? Well that's Han Solo now. 70. I think he prays in fear of his rapidly coming death every single second he is awake.

  • May 29, 2012, 11:33 a.m. CST

    I wouldn't call Blade Runner a "cash grab"

    by Mugato5150

    The first one eventually became a cult favorite but I don't think a sequel to a cult favorite screams cash grab. If Scott wanted to do a cash grab he'd do the Gladiator sequel he was considering. But he'd have done it 10 years ago.

  • May 29, 2012, 11:35 a.m. CST

    Sean Young looks goofy on that poster

    by Autodidact

  • Shatner's 80 and he's doing his own one man show.

  • May 29, 2012, 11:45 a.m. CST

    I feel Ridley Scott is closing the book on his life.

    by BadMrWonkaSucksCock

    He knows his time is limited and wants to return to his greatest works and challenge them. The man is an artist.

  • 100% biologically engineered slave labor with manufactured memories and a programmed termination date. I don't think the term "clone" even existed when Dick wrote this.

  • May 29, 2012, 11:48 a.m. CST

    well yeah, they would have to be biological, not robots

    by Mugato5150

    otherwise they wouldn't need the psych test to flush them out, they'd just look for the access panel.

  • May 29, 2012, 11:53 a.m. CST

    Could be worse, prequels and CGI enhanced Special Editions

    by Domi'sInnerChild

    There finally is the technology to add Decker's wacky sidekick, a talking replicant cat name Spunky.

  • May 29, 2012, 12:03 p.m. CST

    do "with" it

    by CodeName

  • May 29, 2012, 12:07 p.m. CST

    RE: "Kinship!"

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    caractacuspotts - as I told you back in February: I have always taken that as Batty's way of making Deckard understand what he (Batty) and the other replicants have been trying to do: live as long as they can. Watching Deckard hang on by his fingers until his very last act is to, literally, spit in Batty's face before he plummets...well, it's quite a symbolic moment. There is a lot of transfer-of-power in that scene. To live in fear, as Batty puts it, is to be a slave. And to live in fear of death (dying before your time) is a long-running conflict between Man and his Creator (insert your god of choice). It is the ultimate Slave/Master relationship. For Batty to stand over Deckard and watch him fight for every last moment of his life is to, essentially, turn the tables on this relationship. The replicant (i.e. the slave or the creation) is now functioning in the role of the Creator which is to either give or take away life. Deckard is now functioning in the role of the slave; one who is now fearful of dying and trying with all his might to stay alive while Batty appears to watch with indifference. Batty sees the truth of this moment and thus: KINSHIP!

  • May 29, 2012, 12:10 p.m. CST

    Atticus Ross would do a mean score for this.

    by Jethro Bodine

  • For Nordling to prefer that cut, knowing that the ending doesn't work, is highly questionable.

  • May 29, 2012, 12:20 p.m. CST

    I'd rather have The Forever War than Blade Runner 2.

    by sideway

  • May 29, 2012, 12:24 p.m. CST

    openthepodbaydoorshal

    by Jethro Bodine

    And Deckard's bored VO after Roy's dying speech is as bad as a wet fart in a quiet theater. Terrible.

  • May 29, 2012, 12:33 p.m. CST

    BRII will link with PROMETHEUS *thematically* for damn sure.

    by justmyluck

  • May 29, 2012, 12:39 p.m. CST

    PKD novel

    by Jimbobsq

    A sequel could be really outstanding if they go back to the original novel for more elements to flesh out the movie universe. Mercerism, empathy boxes, the round-the-clock TV talk show, and yes electric sheep. It would have been too much to put into one movie but a sequel

  • May 29, 2012, 12:42 p.m. CST

    PKD novel II

    by Jimbobsq

    ... a sequel that brought more of the novel to the screen could make a great movie.

  • May 29, 2012, 12:43 p.m. CST

    The Final cut

    by Tarch

    The final (director's) cut is by far the best version of the film - no lame overdubs for the mentally challenged that drip with the fact that Ford hated them and didn't want to do them. Plus, the restoration makes the film even more gorgeous than the original (I'm good with a sequel just to revisit the visuals of that universe alone.) I liked the ambiguity as to whether Dekkard was a replicant or not, but saying that one or the other makes no sense is simply a failure of imagination. There certainly is a lot of room in that universe for more stories, and I'm extremely curious what Scott has in mind.

  • I only read the first paragraph. I didn't want anything spoiled. On top of that, I'm expecting a number of "disappointed" reviews all together. Along with some very glowing ones, too. I think it's going to be mixed overall IMO. I've read people on here calling Prometheus Scotts "2001" just based on the trailer. The fact is there's a lot expectations. Some think they're getting another Alien or 2001. While some think this will be the mind altering SciFi epic they've always wanted to see their whole life. I just think there's a lot of unrealistic expectations. I'm hyped for the film as much as the next guy. But I'll judge it based on what it actually does, not what "I" hoped it would do based on my imagination. I just want the film to be unique and have it's own voice.

  • May 29, 2012, 12:54 p.m. CST

    You've done good work, Ridley; but to stop sequels, die now.

    by kabong

  • May 29, 2012, 1:05 p.m. CST

    ...*this*, meaning PROMETHEUS.

    by justmyluck

  • May 29, 2012, 1:12 p.m. CST

    ^The stupid shit morons say thanks to anonymity.

    by dahveed1972

  • May 29, 2012, 1:13 p.m. CST

    That said, theres no need for a BR sequel.

    by dahveed1972

  • May 29, 2012, 1:18 p.m. CST

    Considering that Ford's aged some since the original

    by kanye west

    Yeah just a little bit. He's old enough to be a fucking great grandfather. Stop Ridley, please stop raping my childhood. Start calling you Lucas soon.

  • May 29, 2012, 1:19 p.m. CST

    I agree with you Mugato, and so did the screenwriter.

    by impossibledreamers

    It was Ridley idea that Deckard was a rep... not the writer's. Ridley has commented on that before I believe.

  • May 29, 2012, 1:37 p.m. CST

    Mib3 is raping my mid twenties! Please stop Barry Sonnenfeld at any cost!

    by MoneyGrabSequel

    Overly dramatic, aren't I?

  • May 29, 2012, 1:45 p.m. CST

    Why would a replicant be sent to catch a replicant?

    by matthooper8

    Not just in the first but a sequel as some have said. It's the spider sent in to catch the fly, eventually, you still have to catch the spider. It would be a constant cycle.

  • I'm guessing the sequel won't have a voice-over! Shame, I think it's a really good technique that brings movies closer to books, and makes them deeper and more interesting. I can't imagine how much worse Casino or Goodfellas would have been without their voice-overs. Narration works beautifully for some movies, and in my opinion that includes Bladerunner. Title idea for the sequel if Harrison Ford agrees to be in it... Baldrunner! I know he's not bald, but he could be in the movie... it's outrageous how much hair he has at his age. Suits him though... but I'd like him to try going a bit ugly, fat-suit and bald head... he'd rather just put in a lazy and miserable appearance than attempt to play a character that doesn't look exactly like he does in real life!

  • -reposted from Prometheus TB- BSG is perfectly suited for Sir Ridley. Father-son dynamic? Check. Grittier more real style science fiction designs and world? Check. Epic scale action and spectacle in its DNA? Check. A premise that supports the exploration of interesting spiritual, philosophical, and social ideas? Check. Humanoid Cylons = Replicants? Pretty much in most ways. Also... Edward James Olmos in both Blade Runner and BSG. Perhaps the space jockeys are The Lords of Kobol? Now, more than likely if Sir Ridley made a Battlestar Galactica movie it would likely be another reboot instead of a continuation of the Ron Moore TV series. Still though, it would be pretty great to see that from Sir Ridley I have to admit. Fassbender as Baltar? Fuck yes. Charlize as a sexy number 6 style Cylon or perhaps as Athena? Sure, why not. Idris Elba as Col. Tigh, who was a black man in the original BSG? I can support this decision. Someone like say, Nikolaj Coster Waldau (Jaime Lannister in Game of Thrones) for Starbuck? I'd say this dude would make a better Starbuck than Nathan Fillion. Watch Game of Thrones and see what I mean. Maybe then get a popular rising star like Ryan Gosling for Apollo. Then of course you know Sir Ridley would probably get Russell Crowe for Adama. Or he could go with an older Adama and have Max Von Sydow. Either one I can see working pretty well. And if they went with Crowe, as long as it is not the chubbier version of Crowe that crops up from time to time. That'd be pretty epic to see. Easily a PG-13 with no problem (they say frak instead of fuck). In a weird way, it would be a way for Sir Ridley to continue to explore ideas and concepts from Prometheus as well as the whole android theme of Blade Runner, except without tainting the legacy of his masterpiece, which stands alone as one of the greatest science fiction films. Another Blade Runner being made now is a big risk that worries me.

  • May 29, 2012, 2:23 p.m. CST

    I know, let's do Ash versus Deckard, or Bishop versus Batty

    by lv_426

    Sir Peter Weyland challenges Dr. Eldon Tyrell to a no holds barred android smack down to see whose company, Weyland Industries or the Tyrell Corp. makes the toughest and smartest artificial people. Or if anything, which is better, a flesh and blood replicant, or a milk-blooded synthetic? Filmed in a faux documentary/reality TV/Running Man style by Neill Blomkamp. The whole live show is of course being produced by the Yutani Corporation. It takes place on the streets of L.A. The outrage of it all kindles the replicant and androids to band together and start a revolution where they demand equal rights. The blade runner units team up with the Colonial Marines to quell the uprising.

  • You see, a decade after the events of Blade Runner, Gaff retires and opens up his own business. He specializes in making intricate origami pieces for any occasion. This way we can have EJO in there and it explains his older age in relation to the storyline.

  • May 29, 2012, 2:34 p.m. CST

    @moneygrab: are you dramatic?

    by kanye west

    No, but you are a real doucher

  • It'll be A.I. all over again.

  • would be a gritty Earth War film about Colonial Marines battling hordes of alien warriors ala Saving Private Ryan or Band of Brothers.

  • May 29, 2012, 2:42 p.m. CST

    tonagan -- Spielberg + Aliens

    by lv_426

    Spielberg + Aliens = Earth War film about a squad of Colonial Marines at war with hordes of alien warriors. Shot Private Ryan/Band of Brothers style. I'd watch that.

  • May 29, 2012, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Nooo.. the version sans voice over is where it's at

    by Avon

    The directors original take. It was the powers that be that insisted on the voice over, plus it sucks. And that ending...

  • May 29, 2012, 3:17 p.m. CST

    Only two ways this can go, Ridley...

    by Cheif Brody

    1. Deckard WAS a replicant...so, use that...female protagonist now chasing after ageless Deckard, who somehow is living past his kill date. CGI face in some spots, but, primarily use old life mask of Ford from the 80's (Carbonite anyone?) and have a great make up crew make new appliances on an unknown actor with Ford's facial structure & body type. Insert Ford's voice, ala James Earl Jones over Darth's. <p> You can even have Ford show up as his real self...as an old man the Deckard replicant was based on. Maybe he's the wacky scientist who came up with the breakthrough in replicating DNA that begat the original replicants. He walked away or was forced to leave Nexus because he believed they were playing God. I have no problem with Ridley "TRONing" this up a bit. but would rather see Harrison recreated on a younger body via prothstetics than CGI. <p> 2. STFU, old man...Deckard was NOT a replicant...and just use old Ford as Deckard...who the new, hot Blade Runner seeks out for help in finding a new set of menacing reps in 2050! Deckard quit Running after his encounter with Rutger Hauer... but sees a little of himelf in this new girl...and he knows more about tracking than anyone. Could be a good. Let's see if Ridley pulls off PROMETHEUS first.

  • May 29, 2012, 3:33 p.m. CST

    Matthew Davis as a replacement for Harrison Ford

    by TheShrike

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0205127/ He's almost a dead ringer for a young Harrison, and watching him act, he even has the swagger.

  • May 29, 2012, 3:44 p.m. CST

    I wouldn't be surprised it they went with something like

    by lv_426

    Deckard is a human who then has a daughter with Rachel (who could be a Nexus 7) after they escaped capture to an offworld colony. This daughter is basically human enough to pass for a regular person. During this childhood, a blade runner unit is sent to find Deckard and Rachel. When they do, Deckard barely escapes, but Rachel is killed in the confrontation. Their half-human/half-replicant daughter is taken by the blade runners. She is then raised by Tyrell's offspring who are now in control of the company after his death. Then the twist would be that this daughter becomes a blade runner who is then tasked with hunting down Deckard. During the course of the film she finds out about her true past. This way they could have Deckard as a human, but maybe reference or call into question again that he *could be* an advanced replicant (Nexus 7 like Rachel). The key would be to not say one way or the other what Deckard is for sure. Keep the ambiguity of the original. Doing this allows them to have an old Harrison Ford in there, as he could just be an old man, or an aged Nexus 7 replicant that lives about as along as a normal human male would. This being the future we can surmise that life expectancy has gone up a bit for the middle class and above. Set it mostly on an offworld colony with a team of blade runners chasing after Deckard and his daughter who goes rogue once she learns of her past. She then teams up with her dad to survive, he having a veterans knowledge of the art of blade running. Tyrell Corp doesn't approve of this, and since they are the only ones who know what the daughter really is, can't have her running free so they send in the top blade runners they can find on short notice. This unit of blade runners is commanded by Gaff, who has risen in the ranks and orchestrates the mission from a command console on a starship while he makes origami animals. So there, you got old Harrison Ford as Deckard and old Edward James Olmos as Gaff. Maybe Sean Young would be in a flashback scene or just in a picture that the young female protagonist finds of her parents (using the picture as a pivotal prop would be a cool nod to the original with the Tyrell niece photo and Leon's pictures, connecting with the whole sub-theme of genuine memories versus implanted memories). Sir Ridley seems to usually feature some sort of father-son story and conflict (in this case a father-daughter one) in almost all of his films. Even Prometheus seems like it will have this dynamic, so I'd be surprised if Blade Runner II didn't also. I could see it taking place mostly on the offworld colony, then for the film's third act, Deckard and his daughter make their way back to Earth and to the dark rainy futuristic Los Angeles. Similar to how Prometheus seems to be starting out with a brighter more optimistic tone and shifting to the darkness of the original Alien later on in the film. Whatever they do, they shouldn't tell us what the term *blade runner* really means or where that particular slang came from. I like that we never really know why the cops who track down and kill replicants are called blade runners.

  • May 29, 2012, 3:46 p.m. CST

    Blade Runner: Nexus

    by lv_426

    I think that could be a good title for BRII.

  • May 29, 2012, 3:54 p.m. CST

    agree 1000%

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    the original cut is the best, vo and all but is it really a happy ending? It's not a downer, but I wouldnt' say it's "happy"

  • It appears this fall we are getting a new version of the set with even more added features. Blade Runner 30th Anniversary: http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/7100/blade_runner_30th_ce.html

  • Dammit! One of the few movies that will get me to re-purchase every time. Sigh... count me in.

  • I love my Voight-Kampff BD case.

  • May 29, 2012, 4:28 p.m. CST

    My cock

    by Semen Stains

    Ford's Replicant ass

  • May 29, 2012, 4:45 p.m. CST

    Theatrical cut ruins the movie.

    by Saracen1

    That stupid tacked on ending was horrible. Deckard's voice over (it was clear by Harrison Ford's tone that he had extreme disdain for the voiceover lines) was awful. It ruined the two best scenes in that movie.

  • May 29, 2012, 4:48 p.m. CST

    WB is always re-releasing their Blu-rays...

    by Jay

    Don't let the complete 5 disc set being OOP let you down (If you didn't pick it up yet) It's standard WB procedure to let their sets go OOP simply because they replace it with another one. This has happened to Wizard Of Oz, Casablanca, Willy Wonka, etc. The 5 disc set will simply be repackaged. IMO, those included DVDs will simply be put onto a single Blu-ray and what not.

  • Yeah, I probably need to get this set because back in 2007 I only had HD DVD at that point (got Blu-ray in early 2008 with my PS3). So I bought the 5-disc on HD DVD, then later got the single disc release of The Final Cut on blu-ray on sale for 9 bucks. I still have my HD DVD player so it's no biggie, but if there is new stuff and Dangerous Days in HD it is easily worth a quadruple dip (BR dir. cut DVD, BR 5-disc HD DVD, and single disc blu of The Final Cut). Any new extras beyond that would be a nice bonus really.

  • May 29, 2012, 5:12 p.m. CST

    God I hope there is a refrigerator! God I hope there is a refrigerator!

    by Obi Wanna Cannoli

  • May 29, 2012, 5:13 p.m. CST

    I once heard Blade Runner and Alien...

    by Joe Damiani

    were suppose to be in the same reality. Can anyone confirm?

  • May 29, 2012, 5:14 p.m. CST

    If Ridley dies then give it to The Wachowskis

    by Obi Wanna Cannoli

    Speed Racer meets Blade Runner. The blinding lights.

  • Alien was further in the future but they didn't seem to have flying cars. And replicants and androids like Bishop seem to be completely different. The two universes don't have a lot in common.

  • At the time there was no talk of that, it wasn't in the news and it certainly wasn't what people were talking about. Perhaps if you'd been old enough to have been there you'd understand this. Equally, all this bullshit about Dekkard being a replicant was never an issue at the time. And as Ford has said he acted the scenes as a human chasing replicants, not a replicant chasing replicants, which has been pointed out in a message above would completely destroy the replicant/human relationship. Anyway, back to the voiceover. It's as deadpan, as lifeless as the character Ford is playing. You could argue that most voiceover recordings are pretty lifeless compared to their work the actors do during the live-action scenes. That's kind of the nature of voiceover work. Don't believe me? Watch any movie that's made in this style, and every single actor sounds more vibrant, more alive, more animated when reacting to and acting with others. Ford may not have agreed with the voiceover, and the same with Scott, but they still provided a professional enough job. If they really wanted to Ford could have badly read the script, but that would have ruined the film, everyone would have noticed immediately and we'd all have been talking about that back in the 80s! We weren't.

  • May 29, 2012, 6:24 p.m. CST

    Alien and Blade Runner can match up well enough

    by lv_426

    At least, they did before. Now with Prometheus pushing the David 8 angle, not so much. Alien had Ash, which was an android. Blade Runner had its fugitive replicants, which were more like flesh and blood clones really (just like the human Cylons in the newer version of BSG). In Blade Runner's fictional reality, replicants were used for offworld labor and warfare, but were outlawed from living on Earth. The Nexus 6 models were the newest and best of the replicants. Roy Batty killed his creator, who was also the creator and CEO of Tyrell Corp. After Dr. Eldon Tyrell was killed, it isn't that out of the question to think that the whole company went under or was bought out (maybe by Weyland-Yutani, who until all the Prometheus backstory and time-line website was a more nebulous entity). Now the fact that there needs to be a special unit of cops that go after disobedient replicants tells me that maybe the replicants aren't going to be made too much longer. Perhaps society decides they are too much trouble. Or... maybe they become so human that they just merge with humanity and become free citizens? Maybe there was an uprising that brought about freedom for the replicants? Either way, the replicants could have gotten to the point where they are basically the equivalent of human clones. No major differences between a natural born human and a replicant (also bear in mind the genetic advances pioneered for replicants could eventually be used to birth more advanced humans born naturally in a mother's womb). The replicants also were at a severe disadvantage in that they only lived four years. That might have gotten to be too cost prohibitive to deal with. Maybe synthetics were cheaper, easier to control (slaves), faster to be manufactured, lasted much longer, and were able to work in more hostile environments (especially important on offworld colonies). Also, the synthetics of Alien and Aliens (we'll leave out the self-aware Autons mentioned in Alien Resurrection since that is way off in the far future) were obviously more programmed and less human than the replicants of Blade Runner. Bishop even hints at this with the nod to Asimov's Three Laws of Robotics. He then says, *the 120-A2's (Ash) were bit twitchy, which can never happen now with our behavioral inhibitors, want some cornbread...* Even with that, we don't know for sure if Ash malfunctioned or if he just truly saw Ripley as a possible threat to the alien and prevented her from trying to blow it out an airlock or self destruct the Nostromo. He seemed to not like that she found out about Special Order 937 from Mother's groovy blinky mainframe. Another thing is to look at Bishop's knife trick. He does the trick for the marines, but doesn't seem to want to nor does he enjoy it. Maybe he's just too serious or perhaps he finds it a waste of energy and inefficient. Contrast this with someone asking Roy Batty to do the knife trick. This is much more dangerous ground, cause if you were someone Roy didn't like, he might chop off all your fingers. If you were a friend to Roy, then he might get a kick out of doing to knife trick and brightening your day. The reason being Roy is pretty much a human even though he is stronger and more mentally proficient than most of us. If anything, the replicants are equivalent to the rare person that through luck is born with good genes and has a leg up on the rest of us in life. Also, if the replicants did revolt, then perhaps after that was squashed, the government outlawed them completely. By this time the synthetics might have been introduced and it was just easier to have them replace the replicants. Eventually the remaining replicants would have just died off. Then in terms of other areas, the offworld colonies were never elaborated on. There is nothing that says they couldn't have been mining colonies like Thedus, which the Nostromo was en route from back to Earth. There is a lot of time between Blade Runner (2019), and Alien (2122). Lot's of events could have happened that steered society away from using replicants and towards using synthetics instead. As for the flying cars, in Blade Runner it was really mainly the police, government, corporations (the ad blimp), and I'd assume emergency services and probably the military and some public transit servies that had spinners or flying cars and buses. Maybe there were some very rich people too that had this stuff on a private level, just like nowadays the rich might have a private jet. Even Deckard had a crappy little car when he went to Sebastian's building to follow up on a lead. We never saw Earth except from orbit near Gateway Station in Aliens. So there is no reason to assume that there weren't spinners or flying vehicles in the Alienverse. Blade Runner has both spinners and cars. Aliens had the dropship and the APC. Until we got that elaborate Weyland Corp timeline the Alien and Blade Runner universes never truly contradicted one another enough to say they couldn't take place in the same fictional reality beyond being separated by about a century. If anything, the fact that people would go live on Acheron to terraform tells me that Earth might have been kinda shitty like it was in Blade Runner for everyone but the super wealthy. Besides money, why would anyone want to raise their family in Hadley's Hope?

  • Think about it. As the replicants become faster, more deadly prey, you need something that is a bit more of an even match. Also, the replicants use emotional manipulation to get what they want and need (Pris and Sebastian). Part of the whole premise of Blade Runner being that the replicants are human enough that they blur the line between natural born and genetically engineered lab grown people. That is the arc that Ford's character goes through in the film. He sees that the replicants are human and that he was possibly wrong to hunt them (one also wonders why he quit the force in the past in the first place, perhaps he lost his edge as he became sympathetic to the thing he was hunting). So if even one of the most hard ass blade runners can be turned sympathetic to the replicant's plight, then maybe a more clinical approach needs to be taken? Hence, the synthetic which can still reasonably blend in with the masses of humanity, but is also more of an effective killing machine and better match for the superhuman replicants.

  • May 29, 2012, 7:22 p.m. CST

    By the time this goes into production...

    by Logan_1973

    Sir Ridley will be close to 80, and likely too old for this shit. I could see him stepping aside and acting as an EP.

  • May 29, 2012, 7:30 p.m. CST

    People forget about the humor in

    by Teddy Artery

    the script and the dumb jokes and obvious cleverness that is clearly showing us that the writer(s) were having a laugh... The "serious" stuff was improvised or planned by Ridley himself. The script was the weakest part (even though it was still exceptional) of Blade Runner.

  • May 29, 2012, 7:36 p.m. CST

    WTF? Voiceover is fine

    by MurderMostFowl

    After taking a buddy of mine to the original directors cut in the theater, I know exactly why the voiceover was in there. The movie is freaking impossible to follow without it. ( He had never seen it at all and I spent the whole film answering questions ... I never realized how much of theplot I took for granted because I had already seen it ) I don't think the voiceover is bad at all... The movie works so much better as a noir private dick movie than a cold hard dystopian "day in the life" movie.

  • May 29, 2012, 10:55 p.m. CST

    I still have the see the narrated version........

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    simply out of curiosity.

  • A human learning humanity from a robot was the underlying theme of the theatrical BLADE RUNNER. Having him be a replicant all along basically takes that emotional element out of the story completely.

  • May 30, 2012, 2:33 a.m. CST

    Philip K. Dick

    by Retro

    Whats really worrisome is that they don't have a Philip K. Dick book to go off of this time. Can Hampton Fancher really come up with a good sci-fi script from scratch? I say they MUST get David Webb Peoples in on this one. He is a brilliant writer, especially when it comes to science-fiction. Or they could use one of KW Jeters sequel novels. I have the first sequel, but haven't read it yet. I'm sure there's some good stuff in it to borrow. Or hey, maybe hire Jeter to write the new movie. He was actually a protege of Philip Dick. Then again, there was some GREAT stuff in the original novel that was left out of the movie. I was really disappointed with the stuff they left out.

  • May 30, 2012, 5:58 a.m. CST

    I don't know about this...

    by SpiceWonBruce

    I'm iffy about a sequel. The ability, craft and ingenuity was a freak occurrence that spawned by way of raw filmmaking instinct. Sad to say, this is something most filmmakers lose over the years--even Ridley Scott. Re-hiring David People's would be a good start. The man is a screenwriting genius. If anyone could iron out the winkles in this project, it would be him.

  • May 30, 2012, 6:08 a.m. CST

    Another thing...

    by SpiceWonBruce

    The true majesty of Blade Runner was largely unintentional. I suspect the greatness found was not sought out or realized by the filmmakers until after the movie was finished.

  • May 30, 2012, 7:11 a.m. CST

    PKD wrote Deckard as human

    by Hardboiled Wonderland

    PKD always said Deckard is human. It's the whole point of the Electric Sheep story, paranoia and second-guessing one's reality tunnel.

  • May 30, 2012, 7:11 a.m. CST

    @dursman2000, right on, you nailed it perfectly

    by Hardboiled Wonderland

  • May 30, 2012, 8:15 a.m. CST

    When the director of the fucking movie says he's a replicant

    by proevad

    The argument is over. Kind of like when Hawaii shows the birth certificate. Move the fuck on.

  • May 30, 2012, 8:29 a.m. CST

    I also massively prefer the studio cut

    by lynxpro

    The director's cut is scifi art house; the studio cut is scifi film noir. The character progression is completely ruined if Deckard is a replicant. And why is it that Harrison Ford has two characters in two of the largest scifi films of all time that is surrounded by revisionisms by the films directors? Now with all of that said, I'd love to see a reshoot with CGI to finally complete the missing scene where Roy discovers that Tyrell was a replicant and the original version has been dead for years? That should've been done for the "Final Cut" edition. I've love to see that done and the studio cut remastered and then re-released on Blu-ray...and this time encoded in AVC instead of VC-1.

  • May 30, 2012, 8:31 a.m. CST

    "When the director of the ___ movie says he's a replicant"...

    by lynxpro

    So that must mean that when George Lucas says Greedo shot first, it's true and our eyes were completely mistaken to have seen Han Solo fire first in the original 1977 studio cut. Funny how fans embrace such logic when practiced by Sir Ridley Scott but not George Lucas...

  • Three words. His. Girl. Friday.

  • The movie will revolve around why the REAL Deckard felt he had to go into hiding and arranged to have a replicant of himself built. also - the replicant deckard managed to father a child - fully replicant, but naturally born.

  • May 30, 2012, 10:02 a.m. CST

    If replicants are biological,

    by jawaburger

    wouldn't a replicant without a termination date age similarly to a human? Maybe slower but it would still age. So even if you see an old Deckard it wouldn't prove that he is human.

  • May 30, 2012, 12:29 p.m. CST

    An audio clip leaked! Blade Runner plot spoiler

    by Asua

    I was able to get access to an audio clip from a friend who wants to remain anonymous. The audio only goes for 45sec but Sir R Scott explains the basic plot of the Blade Runner sequel. I'd rather you hear the audio clip yourself. Go visit my site at www.strangeobsession.com

  • May 30, 2012, 1:54 p.m. CST

    @burnhollywood & dasheight- Have YOU read any, genius?

    by JohnnyKrypton

    Dick's Deckard is human. The script's Deckard is human. Ford's performance is human. The entire point of the film is the human who's lost his humanity rediscovers it through the reps. @dasheight Sorry. Scott's version is not the theatrical version, and I could care less what he stuck in after the fact. Rick Deckard, HUMAN, is the story that sold the script, that all parties signed on for, and the studio released. Scott works for the studio, it's THEIR film, and practically everyone else involved agrees that Scott was off base. DONE. Fuck Scott.

  • June 3, 2012, 8:30 a.m. CST

    Lots of places to go with "Blade Runner 2"

    by Neil Rieck

    Anyone who has read the first 3 of 4 "Blade Runner" books already knows there are a lot of places the writer and director can go with this. I, for one, consider "Blade Runner" to be the best sci-fi movie of all time and can only assume that Scott will set the bar even higher with "Blade Runner 2" http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/Blade-Runner.html