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Ambush Bug here. The below hour-plus long conversation took place between myself and my fellow @$$holes Matt Adler, Optimous Douche, Humphrey Lee, and our host Johnny Destructo of PoptardsGo.com as we talked about JUSTICE LEAGUE #9, NEW CRUSADERS #1, DANCER #1, INCREDIBLE HULK #7.1, HARDCORE #1, INVINCIBLE IRON MAN #517, DANGER CLUB #2, another rousing edition of @$$terpiece Theatre, and of course, more general jack@$$$ery!
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cool!
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just like Captain America.
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May 22, 2012, 11:04 a.m. CST
DC Lovers: Who do we think is going to come out of the closet in June?
by Poptard_JD
Apparently an "iconic" DC character is going to come out as gay in June.. I'm guessing Barry Allen, or one of the older Robins.
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1.) Hardcore was a great, great read. Bug was weirdly over-critical with it. Speaking of which... 2.) ...I'm surprised you guys didn't get Bug your usual 'racist accusations' when he pointed out Clark's appearance in JL. Speaking of which... 3.) ...there's no way in hell I'm picking up another issue of JL so soon. One positive review after 8 crappy issues? Nuuuhhh-oooope! Are you high? Speaking of which... 4.) The masterpiece theatre read was hilarious, as is now usual. So was someone's rendition of Private Dancer (maybe Bug?). I wish I could turn that into a ring tone. 5.) Usually when you guys do your guy humor thing, it's an eye-roll, shake-of-the-head and slight grin thing. But that Wonder Woman bit was just stupid, and went too far. 6.) Somehow I completely missed Dancer online and in promos. Thanks for pointing it out, I can't wait to take a peek. On a completely podcast-unrelated note, Fantastic Four 605.1 was....well....fantastic. I strongly recommend it to anyone who hasn't given it a flip.
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And I brought that Tina Turner shit Hooooooome
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May 22, 2012, 11:19 a.m. CST
LOL it's just my initials but great attempt at trying to sound it out
by Wcwlkr
LOL definitely not the voice I would've given myself I have way more base.
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Didn't you hear me insinuate that he was stereotyping the character because he was playing basketball?
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May 22, 2012, 11:23 a.m. CST
How Amy other time when the JL finds out their in a alternate history they go out their way to reverse it back? Batman knows and flash knows but acts like things are normal.
by Cedric Ford
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May 22, 2012, 11:25 a.m. CST
How come any other time when the JL finds out their in a alternate timeline they go out their way to reverse it back.
by Cedric Ford
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...but I doubt DC would have the nerve to do something like that. They did state the character is iconic. I'm thinking if they were going to make it a Flash, Wally would make more sense somehow. I'd like to know what Homer thinks about it.
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May 22, 2012, 11:36 a.m. CST
For anyone who thinks we were exaggerating the Wonder Woman scene...
by MattAdler
See for yourself: http://i45.tinypic.com/4hxk1.jpg
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....but doesn't excuse the 'humor' imo. Not that anyone will care. Sidenote: Wonder Woman's nails are painted? That's....dumb, on many levels...
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I would just embarass myself trying to guess that LOL.
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May 22, 2012, 12:08 p.m. CST
@Pinkl I see no good reason why Wonder Woman can't paint her nails...
by Greg Nielsen
She's a lady who likes looking nice. What's wrong with that?
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May 22, 2012, 12:13 p.m. CST
Wiat Women's Nails Aren't Naturally Green, Red, Black or Blue?
by optimous_douche
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About frikkin' time!
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May 22, 2012, 12:26 p.m. CST
Come on! The Lasso Of Truth is her tampon string?? I'm hilarious and brilliant.
by Poptard_JD
any protests will go unread by me, since ignorance is, indeed...bliss. ;)
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May 22, 2012, 12:28 p.m. CST
I *think* the @$$terpiece is obvious, since we talk about the character in question during our review of the book...
by Poptard_JD
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Hot lesbians are not ground-breaking, diversity empowerment. They are sex-appeal for straight men, masquerading as diversity empowerment (sorry, Optimus....but that lesbian porn you're fapping to doesn't qualify you as 'progressive'). I wonder what DC has up their sleeve...
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It's Rob Liefeld.
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I saw that post about an "iconic" DC character coming out but I don't really believe it. Bruce Wayne totally makes sense, but NO WAY plus it's been done and now even in the new 52, Gay Batman and Gay Superman already exist. (BTW Gay Batman has the stupidest looking mask with a chin spike, but I digress). I hope its Barry Allen, cause he is the most boring character ever and this would give him some level of interesting-ness. If I had to guess, I think I'd say Green Lantern because he's iconic and, to my knowledge, doesn't have an extensive personal background in comics. I HATE ALL THINGS GREEN LANTERN so I hope I am wrong. A Robin? Well, Jason Todd would be easy but he is far from iconic. Dick Grayson is one of the biggest players ever and Damian is ten. So I don't think it's a Robin. OMG... maybe its Wonder Woman! Diana is a lesbian! That makes sense. And maybe a sexy lesbian would attract male readers. But Batwoman is already a sexy lesbian with an active love life, so that wouldn't be all that ground breaking. I can't think of any other iconic characters except Hawkman and Aquaman, and it won't be either of them unless Hawkman's story has really changed in the revamp. I actually think Obsidian was a pretty good rep of a gay superhero. But he is the opposite of "iconic." Even Marvel hasn't really done anyone iconic. Northstar is way too boyfriend-obsessed. Gay Ultimate Colossus was awesome back when he existed. The gay Rictor and bisexual Shatterstar couple is good, too. Ultimately, it would seem like a character who is iconic, but doesn't sell well, would be the most logical choice because maybe it will bump up sales. So at the end of my rambling Ima say either Green Lantern (but he does sell, I don't know how) and Wonder Woman (but that isn't really so suprising or interesting).
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May 22, 2012, 12:45 p.m. CST
I think Iconic is gonna be really relative on the gay character...
by Greg Nielsen
Even Vibe is iconic in the everyone hates him category
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...but I think making Hal gay would irritate the crap out of him (Green Lantern is his favorite book). Mostly because he's been trying to get me to read it by way of interesting me in Star Sapphire. Take that angle away and what interest I had for that book is gone. It started out kinda interesting, but I got bored with it.
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We already know he likes hard salami from time to time.
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May 22, 2012, 1:13 p.m. CST
Maybe it'll be Cyborg and it'll be the double token character...
by Greg Nielsen
Two for the price of one?
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May 22, 2012, 1:17 p.m. CST
Didn't Superman already come out in Superman Returns???
by Samuel Fulmer
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Make a new character and let his orientation be whatever, but don't change one for shock value, but then again this is DC we're talking about.
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Even in the new universe he's already established as a poon hound. Likewise Barry Allen (well not a hound, but definite interest in the ladies). Bruce Wayne and Superman = Stupid. Just doesn't make sense within new canon We need to think of someone who has not had any exploration of their love life. Wonder Woman doesn't work because then you kill the whole Steve Trevor thread in JUSTICE LEAGUE. Why isn't anyone thinking villains here hmmmm?
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I'd guess Jason Todd. Some of the new 52 books are already revamping, so Hawkman is a possibility. I take back Green Lantern, because it is a popular comic, if not movie, so they wouldn't want to risk alienating the longtime fans. I have to admit I am more likely to buy a book with a gay lead or prominent character, so more than anything I hope it's done well.
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May 22, 2012, 1:35 p.m. CST
In bigger news Renee Montoya is back and she's straight...
by Greg Nielsen
just kidding
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He already boned Starfire in new continuity.
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Plasticman?
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He's a snappy dresser with the bow ties.
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May 22, 2012, 2:28 p.m. CST
If it is The Flash, it'll put a new spin on his ongoing battles with the Rogues...
by Greg Nielsen
Captain Cold indeed
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Cause Barry Allen is just not a character I've ever been interested in... And I do know Jason has boned Starfire, but I've boned a lot of women and I'm still gay. Plus, he just seems kinda like maybe... Probably Im just projecting because he has so much in common with Daken...
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Some writers portray him as a bit on the lavender side anyway.
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People should make more of an effort to point out the distinction, but they don't. Although Joe and Jane Q. Mouthbreather don't know (or don't care), there is a difference. Does DC mean actually gay, or do they mean bi? Because being gay doesn't hinge on who they slept with before. There's plenty of gay men who felt forced into the Love That Speaks Its Name, before leaping out of the closet and embracing the Love That Dare Not Speak Its Name. Frankly, the story possibilities for being bi could be convoluted and interesting....
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May 22, 2012, 3:07 p.m. CST
Honestly...if being gay isn't all that big a deal...why are they making such a big deal out of it?
by Greg Nielsen
I hope once everyone is gay and bi-sexual then they can make a big deal out of straight characters...on the bright side since I'll be a sexual minority I'll get to be the supposedly impossibly artistically imbued type too...though probably not DC is coming off like the girl on Girls Gone Wild to piss off her dad Our society is mostly stupid and hypocritical... Although I have no clue why I am complaining cause it doesn't effect me and I was already reading Batwoman anyway, which Trevor McCarthy does a good Amy Reeder impersonation
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May 22, 2012, 3:08 p.m. CST
In short...this is all stupid, pandering and reactionary...
by Greg Nielsen
I'm glad I got that off my chest.
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May 22, 2012, 3:24 p.m. CST
@Pink...I have no clue what I did to deserve that...but GEESE! GREENS!! DIRK BENEDICT!!!...
by Greg Nielsen
The original Starbuck!
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May 22, 2012, 3:29 p.m. CST
Bullying. Beatings. Murder. Discrimination. Counter-attempts of humanization are a big deal.
by 3774
That's why.
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This is a serious question...it's bothered me since my theater days in college when I was the only straight guy in the theater major house. I couldn't ask this of my roommates because they had only slept with guys. But...the physiology seems impossible to me. I get lesbians banging guys, because female physiology will allow for sex when the attraction is not there. But the physics of a gay guy boning girls baffles me. You have to be able to get it up - to do that attraction has to be in play for a man. Close your eyes and imagine? Again, I think if you could bone girls at one time at the DNA level your Bi. You might have ultimately decided you prefer men and made the gay lifestyle choice. But if the little soldier can rise for both genders. That's Bi right? Or am I just too suburban? Serious responses please, I truly am curious.
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In fact you trying to trivialize and silence my questions/opinions is bullying. Just saying But we're still cool yo And yes you are right everyone has the right to live and live how they please but I have the right to ask questions and say what I want.
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I know I find them to be
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What, you've never done that with a girl you weren't attracted to? :)
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May 22, 2012, 3:48 p.m. CST
If you think having your ignorance being pointed out is bullying...
by 3774
You are either a troll, or a tool, because it mocks actual victims. In either case, we are not cool, 'yo'.
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May 22, 2012, 3:51 p.m. CST
Also...again I say this as someone who's not persecuted sexually...why on Earth do we need humanize people who are human...
by Greg Nielsen
again...I could just be dense Any who...let God sort it out. Like I said doesn't effect me one way or another...but the way people act about is driving me insane. We think gays are human which is why we are making a big deal out of them being different cause they are the same as me. It's just so goofy. Then again I also had gay cousins, aunts, and a bunch of gay people around me growing up and my parents never treated them differently. The church we went to never treated them as different (but they also weren't making out in the aisles and to be honest I never knew the difference) So, again. Might not have the most mainstream view.
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...I agree. If they're aroused by both, I would consider them bi, not gay. But our society is so polar mindset to the point of neurotic that the shades between anything almost always get ignored. There's a strong current behind the 'everybody is a little gay....it just depends on how much' philosophy. Which is like saying very few people are completely straight or gay, and most people are bi...
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I just don't see how them doing this would stop any of that. I also don't know how people don't see other people as human. I also don't get when people automatically feel the need to do tokenism like it'll do anything other than preach to the choir and rile up the people who are close minded anyway. It's cool though. I'm cool with you if you're not cool with me.
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Because if I put up numbers, I come down more on the straight side. But for the last ten years, only on the gay side. If guys were "allowed" to be bi, Id be more "bi" than I am, but I seriously think that only girls are bi in practice. I think that sounds ignorant, but not really. A girl can make out with another girl, etc, without making a lot of guys uncomfortable about being with them. Whereas if I tell a girl I recently had a d... in my... mouth... well, thats that... To Optimus: The excitement of a new relationship totally enables me to get it up. But on a regular basis, I can't. That's why I ultimately had to realize which team I play for. I can't keep working it and all my relationships failed after a period of time.... Whereas with a guy, I never have issues...
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I don't think most straight guys would want to know about what their girls have had in their mouths, either.
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May 22, 2012, 4:18 p.m. CST
@homer sexual...so do you think this is a cash grab that's pandering to you like when celebrities say they are whatever to get fans...
by Greg Nielsen
cause I mean that's the way I see it. I really do think it's disrespectful to those who are, those who think it's wrong, and the rest of us who are just trucking along. But it's especially disrespectful to those who are
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May 22, 2012, 4:51 p.m. CST
Bi men are demonized as 'sex obsessed'. Bi women are demonized as 'homewreckers'.
by 3774
That's the stereotypes I've seen trotted out over and over again. My lesbian neighbors even admit doing it (stereotyping those tropes). The near-universal claim I've seen is, 'bi-men always end up settling down into 'gay', and bi-women always end up settling down into 'straight'. I'm not saying it's true. That's just what I've observed, which analytically speaking means very little.
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May 22, 2012, 4:57 p.m. CST
@ Matt: That's comparing...well...a Georgia peach to very hairy, wrinkly Kiwi fruit.
by 3774
Or to quote Whitney, 'you should shave and iron press those nasty things. They're disgusting!' She cracks me up so much.
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May 22, 2012, 5:01 p.m. CST
Poptard_jd with probably the most cogent point of the day...
by Greg Nielsen
this has gotten quite weird...and admittedly I accidentally helped.
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May 22, 2012, 5:05 p.m. CST
Speaking of comics! Jeff Lemire starts his run on JL Dark tomorrow...
by Greg Nielsen
Excited! If only he was doing Voodoo too...I had to drop it with the whole pocket book thing.
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Would be my guess as to who "comes out" in June. I figure that since he has been featured in 3 movies (2 as the main villian) he is iconic enough to fall under that umbrella and not upend any previous storylines/characterizations. of course this is coming from someone who has never read Superman on a regular basis and has no idea how he's been portrayed.
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Two words: BOOSTER GOLD. He's from the future, where nobody gives a rat's ass if you chug cock. Personally, there needs to be MORE gay people in this world. Let them marry. Let them adopt. Let them pick our drapes out. This world is overpopulated and ugly, neither of which homosexuals are responsible for (Unless you count Tom Cruise). Do it up fuchsia!
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May 22, 2012, 8:21 p.m. CST
I haven't read Fantastic Four 605.1 yet..I'm so far behind, I haven't even read 600 yet!
by Poptard_JD
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Just a few observations: 1. The character would be someone who has never had a same-sex "kid sidekick." Backlash, big time, with speculation on what happened. Therefore, not Batman, Green Arrow, Flash, Aquaman. 2. No one with a history of marriage to a person of the opposite sex. Too much of a stretch to believe some hero would go that far (or even a villain). Therefore, no Superman, Black Canary, Flash, Hawkman. 3. No one with a psychosis. Such would offend gays. Therefore, not the Joker, Two-Face, etc. My candidates would include the Atom, Plastic Man, John Stewart/Green Lantern.
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Is that the press release said "iconic" character. Not someone we pretty much obliterated or relegated to the sidelines during the reboot.
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May 22, 2012, 10:51 p.m. CST
Let's make this the official office pool. I'm calling a guess...
by 3774
...I think jtishere hit it dead on. John Stewart/Green Lantern. That's my official guess. Ya get one pick. Not who you want per se, but who you think it'll be. Who is it?
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Kyle Rayner is my pick, unless someone can point out a marriage or something. They'll try to boost New Guardians sales with it. An ensemble book makes it less 'risky'. Yup. That's it. That's my official guess.
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Apologies in advance for doing this.... This TB has often discussed the fact that white guys dominate comics because white guys buy comics and people like to read about someone they can relate to. Or sometimes imagine being, I suppose. So even if it is pandering, I hope it's someone who might at least be kind of cool. NOT LEX LUTHOR... while that might make sense, I don't think it would accomplish what DC wants, it wouldn't make anyone happy..would it? What I hate to do but must is bring up Miles Morales. Is he pandering? Is Batgirl pandering? I think the more types represented, the better. We all want to see ourselves.
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What's pandering is almost-exclusively catering to white, straight men with a wildly-disproportionate ratio of like characters. Crying 'pandering' when a bit of diversity reality is reflected in the media demographic reminds me of clowns that babble about 'reverse racism' (a literally *impossible* concept - take a sociology class) or the 'war on christianity' (a manipulative logical fallacy - take a political science class). In the end, protests against anything that upset the status quo are from a reaction of fear over loss of status and power (which people probably don't even realize - take a psychology class). Failing to make any real effort to market to women and minorities, for decades, and then blame women and minorities for lack of marketing because they don't buy comics? Herp. Having some of the privileged demographic whine about it as 'pandering' when attempts are made? Derp.
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May 26, 2012, 9:04 p.m. CST
It's sure not gonna be someone who's gonna be in a movie thats for sure
by 2mules4sistersarah
or even is part of a major characters pantheon. Anything could hurt the profit margin or cause controversy for any DC related movies in the future is going to factor in who DC "outs". Barry Allen does make sense for a lot of reasons: midwest type of white collar guy with working class ethic. Doesn't live in a liberal part of the nation and is the type of guy you'd want as co-worker, neighbor and have a beer with. And not to drag politics into it, is probally a conservative republican (pre tea party that is) who votes republican all the time.
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As Batman and Superman's pantheon. As DC seems to only be able to get those characters to be successful on the big screen and that the public knows at this time.
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