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It looks like “Community,” or at least the “Community” we all know and love, won’t be back next season after all.

"Community" creator/mastermind Dan Harmon’s fascinating and illuminating Saturday-morning blog post:

HEY, DID I MISS ANYTHING?

Kids:

A few hours ago, I landed in Los Angeles, turned on my phone, and confirmed what you already know. Sony Pictures Television is replacing me as showrunner on Community, with two seasoned fellows that I’m sure are quite nice - actually, I have it on good authority they’re quite nice, because they once created a show and cast my good friend Jeff Davis on it, so how bad can they be.

Why’d Sony want me gone? I can’t answer that because I’ve been in as much contact with them as you have. They literally haven’t called me since the season four pickup, so their reasons for replacing me are clearly none of my business. Community is their property, I only own ten percent of it, and I kind of don’t want to hear what their complaints are because I’m sure it would hurt my feelings even more now that I’d be listening for free.

I do want to correct a couple points of spin, now that I’m free to do so:

The important one is this quote from Bob Greenblatt in which he says he’s sure I’m going to be involved somehow, something like that. That’s a misquote. I think he meant to say he’s sure cookies are yummy, because he’s never called me once in the entire duration of his employment at NBC. He didn’t call me to say he was starting to work there, he didn’t call me to say I was no longer working there and he definitely didn’t call to ask if I was going to be involved. I’m not saying it’s wrong for him to have bigger fish to fry, I’m just saying, NBC is not a credible source of All News Dan Harmon.

You may have read that I am technically “signed on,” by default, to be an executive consulting something or other - which is a relatively standard protective clause for a creator in my position. Guys like me can’t actually just be shot and left in a ditch by Skynet, we’re still allowed to have a title on the things we create and “help out,” like, I guess sharpening pencils and stuff.

However, if I actually chose to go to the office, I wouldn’t have any power there. Nobody would have to do anything I said, ever. I would be “offering” thoughts on other people’s scripts, not allowed to rewrite them, not allowed to ask anyone else to rewrite them, not allowed to say whether a single joke was funny or go near the edit bay, etc. It’s….not really the way the previous episodes got done. I was what you might call a….hands on producer. Are my….periods giving this enough….pointedness? I’m not saying you can’t make a good version of Community without me, but I am definitely saying that you can’t make my version of it unless I have the option of saying “it has to be like this or I quit” roughly 8 times a day.

The same contract also gives me the same salary and title if I spend all day masturbating and playing Prototype 2. And before you ask yourself what you would do in my situation: buy Prototype 2. It’s fucking great.

Because Prototype 2 is great, and because nobody called me, and then started hiring people to run the show, I had my assistant start packing up my office days ago. I’m sorry. I’m not saying seasons 1, 2 and 3 were my definition of perfect television, I’m just saying that whatever they’re going to do for season 4, they’re aiming to do without my help. So do not believe anyone that tells you on Monday that I quit or diminished my role so I could spend more time with my loved ones, or that I negotiated and we couldn’t come to an agreement, etc. It couldn’t be less true because, just to make this clear, literally nobody called me. Also don’t believe anyone that says I have sex with animals. And if there’s a photo of me doing it with an animal - I’m not saying one exists, I’m just saying, if one surfaces - it’s a fake. Look at the shadow. Why would it be in front of the giraffe if the sun is behind the jeep?

Where was I? Oh yeah. I’m not running Community for season 4. They replaced me. Them’s the facts.

When I was a kid, sometimes I’d run home to Mommy with a bloody nose and say, “Mom, my friends beat me up,” and my Mom would say “well then they’re not worth having as friends, are they?” At the time, I figured she was just trying to put a postive spin on having birthed an unpopular pussy. But this is, after all, the same lady that bought me my first typewriter. Then later, a Commodore 64. And later, a 300 baud modem for it. Through which I met new friends that did like me much, much more.

I’m 39, now. The friends my Mom warned me about are bigger now, and older, bloodying my nose with old world numbers, and old world tactics, like, oh, I don’t know, sending out press releases to TV Guide at 7pm on a Friday.

But my Commodore 64 is mobile now, like yours, and the modems are invisible, and the internet is the air all around us. And the good friends, the real friends, are finding each other, and connecting with each other, and my Mom is turning out to be more right than ever.

Ah, shit, I still haven’t called my fucking Mom.

Mom, Happy Mother’s Day. I got fired.

Yes, Mom. AGAIN. 

“Community” already had an uphill battle ahead of it next season, given that NBC just moved the show from Thursday to Friday, the night shows go to die.

My prediction: this autumn will mark the end of the show; I think the weries will start hitting 0.8s in adults 18-49 and NBC will cancel it by Christmas.

 

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  • May 19, 2012, 1:33 p.m. CST

    A terrible sad day.......

    by whatupsummmmmmbitch

    ....and FIRST!?

  • May 19, 2012, 1:34 p.m. CST

    Yeah, this doesn't bode well...

    by notspock2

  • May 19, 2012, 1:36 p.m. CST

    im literally about to cry

    by jsfithaca

    the new season of community probably will make me cry

  • May 19, 2012, 1:37 p.m. CST

    Yikes

    by MJDeViant

    I get this feeling that they are going to try and get numbers he wasn't getting. That is always a mistake. Good luck, Dan Harmon. You'll get something together again, I'm sure. Now I'm not so sure what to think about Season 4 of Community... will it basically be the same? Is it even worth having a 4th season if it will blunder? Dammit NBC/Sony, wtf.

  • May 19, 2012, 1:38 p.m. CST

    Could this have been a condition to get Chase back?

    by OldDickLemon

    Just a completely unsubstantiated theory.

  • next season pushes out the episode number to 84 episodes. Thats a better syndication package then the 71 from 3 seasons If they do cancel it i hope we at least get an ending, graduation or something. It always softens the blow when a show is able to complete it's arc

  • May 19, 2012, 1:39 p.m. CST

    At least he doesn't have to kiss up to Chevy Chase anymore

    by thelordofhell

    Chevy is such a colossal ass-hole

  • May 19, 2012, 1:40 p.m. CST

    Also, Is it possible Chevy Chase used his pull to have Harmon fired?

    by RedBull_Werewolf

    Not that chase is a big star but I'm sure he's big enough for Sony to want to please him. It's been pretty public how much Chevy and Dan have fought on set. Perhaps Chevy threatened to leave and Sony took the bait and replace Harmon? somebody's gotta have the inside scoop

  • May 19, 2012, 1:41 p.m. CST

    just sad

    by klytusnotdead

    Community is the best thing on free tv.

  • May 19, 2012, 1:43 p.m. CST

    Programmed Community after Whitney on Fridays

    by krabklaw

    That was a WTF decision if there ever was one. Maybe NBC plans to re-tool Community into something more compatible.

  • May 19, 2012, 1:43 p.m. CST

    The show is essentially dead now

    by Razorback

    Dan Harmon was the heart and soul of the show. Even those who had problems with him on the show admit that. So, in essence, Sony (and NBC for that matter) just sent a big fuck you to anyone who loved the show. Because there is no way it will look or feel like the show we love next season. Not only did the show lose its heart and soul, but also the only three writers who COULD have conceivably kept the show remotely on Harmon's rails. But with the exit of ALL of the writing talent on the show (two gone to other shows and one quit over Harmon's departure), you can call season 4 CINAO. Community In Name Only.

  • May 19, 2012, 1:44 p.m. CST

    CINO

    by Razorback

    I don't know how the A got in there.

  • May 19, 2012, 1:52 p.m. CST

    There is no way they would do anything like that for Chase

    by MJDeViant

    I love Chevy but let's be real, he isn't going to pull viewers or anything and is not a reason to restructure a show. I have a feeling it was probably related to how Harmon ran the show and the feeling it wasn't enticing a broader audience. Harmon should team with Netflix or whomever else and try another show out. You know he has it in him.

  • May 19, 2012, 1:54 p.m. CST

    This is worse than if show was cancelled

    by ajit maholtra

    If show was cancelled, another network could pick it up or show could die with soul intact. But like this, they killed the soul, and show will die prolonged ugly death where spiritual death precedes the physical one.

  • May 19, 2012, 1:56 p.m. CST

    Remember what happened to Scrubs

    by ajit maholtra

    This will be worse.

  • May 19, 2012, 2:01 p.m. CST

    This is the darkest timeline

    by georgecauldron

    yea, that joke has been used elsewhere already, but now I get to use it bitches

  • May 19, 2012, 2:01 p.m. CST

    The season finale felt like a series finale.

    by KevinMuller

    It will feel different. It won't be as wacky as it once was. It is going to go back to the more "normal" format it once had.

  • May 19, 2012, 2:03 p.m. CST

    Expect NBC to turn this into a big bang rip off

    by RedBull_Werewolf

    Rather then a show that has laughed with nerds and fanboys NBC will turn into into a show like BBT which laughs at nerds and fanboys so that the average American gets the jokes so instead of a subtle 80's reference by abed, we'll get the "cool" characters blatant pointing out that abed likes nerd things and the humor will revolve around it

  • Or, the laugh track, the focus shift to relationships, more product placement, cross promotion of other NBC shows, Abed being turned into Sheldon, weekly "special guest star", and at least 2 tv veterans (ie have been on a #1 show before) added to the cast, will make it the most popular show on TV (and we really will see six seasons and a movie, followed by 4 more seasons). But, yeah, Community going the way of Breaking In* does seem to be the best bet. *perhaps they didn't go far enough - all they did was change the show's focus and brought in only 1 tv veteran.

  • May 19, 2012, 2:06 p.m. CST

    Until now, I thought the Friday move was great.

    by beastie

    They put it next to another geeky show that had been performing surprisingly well for them. Now, I think they're trynig to dump it and ruin it before NetFlix gets a chance to revive it. Sucks.

  • So if that was under your running, you can know it ended well. I hope the new writers do well, I really do, but it does seem like a long shot whenever someone is replaced who was pretty much the original

  • Inspector Space Time - Dreamatorium?? Different timelines?? Inventiveness is great but not when it's ridiculous pandering to geeks. Rein in that stuff.

  • May 19, 2012, 2:21 p.m. CST

    You Sony Fucks

    by beatitudesputnik

    can suck my motherfucking balls

  • May 19, 2012, 2:32 p.m. CST

    Here Comes The Laugh Track

    by Raskolnikov_was_framed

    you know it's coming...fucking NBC

  • May 19, 2012, 2:35 p.m. CST

    Fuck... Just... Fuck.

    by TylerSnow815

    Unbelievable. I would almost prefer theyd just cancelled it. Wonder if the cast will be able to comment on it or if it will be another Darabont / walking dead deal.

  • Sort of like how I view the Office post-Season 3, since I think the season3 finale made for an absolutely perfect Series finale for that show, I just view seasons 4-7 as bonus features (like deleted scenes on a dvd). granted many of the episodes in seasons 4-7 were great, and maybe season 4 of Community will be to, I'm just not putting any expectations of greatness on it. At least we got a proper ending to the show this past thursday which included a plotline where Jeff was one inspirational speech away from getting his arm bone-sawed off by Abed.

  • In the commentary for the mockumentary episode they did in season 2 Harmon said it took half the time and money to shoot than a normal episode, and implied if they ever had to severely cut the budget/schedule for the show to keep it on the air he could see that as an option, though obviously not his preference.

  • May 19, 2012, 2:51 p.m. CST

    Devil's Advocate

    by MrD

    I am only a recent convert to Community - Netflix and Hulu brought me up to speed over Christmas break - but I love the show a great deal, and if I had my choice, I would not change anything about how its done. But could it be that the reason he was replaced was simply because he was a pain in the ass to work with? This is obviously a struggling show on a struggling network. No one would have been shocked if it was cancelled, but they did bring it back. Execs see the creative types as replacable, so maybe they think the new guys will keep the ship on course, just without the headaches Harmon brought. I wish Harmon well with Prototype 2 and I will be sure to check out his future projects, but I am not writing the show off until I see what, if any, effect it has on the screen. (Yes, I agree I am most likely in denial, but at least I can wait until fall to be miserable).

  • cool cool cool

  • May 19, 2012, 3:02 p.m. CST

    I'm torn

    by Bass Ackwards

    I've loved the show, even up to and through this season, but the second half of this season has lost me quite a bit. That said, I have no interest in seeing this show without Harmon, what would be the point? It'd be like Buffy with Whedon, or West Wing without Sorkin...wait a minute...

  • May 19, 2012, 3:07 p.m. CST

    MOTHERFUCKER!!!

    by The_guy_in_the_rated_R_movie

    so yesterdays 3 episode spectacular really was the end of the show......fuck me.

  • May 19, 2012, 3:08 p.m. CST

    This fucking sucks

    by judge dredds fresh undies

    Way to go NBC, my favourite comedy since the last millenium is dead.

  • May 19, 2012, 3:08 p.m. CST

    Now that's how you drop the mic

    by Ribbons

    Don't get me wrong, it sucks that they replaced the head of the show right after it got a new lease on life, but what an awesome exit rant. Congratulations Mr. Harmon, and fuck you NBC.

  • May 19, 2012, 3:11 p.m. CST

    this suucks

    by brightgeist

    suuuuucks

  • May 19, 2012, 3:15 p.m. CST

    This is like removing John K. from Ren and Stimpy

    by Charles Calthrop

    What do I expect, Sony has a history of bad decisions. They invented the Walkman but let Apple take over the portable music market. They bought up other companies to expand into other areas, but were completely disorganized, so that a Sony music CD wouldn't play on a Sony computer. Looks like they still don't know what they are doing.

  • Created by Dan Harmon.

  • May 19, 2012, 3:22 p.m. CST

    Dan Harmon, KEEPING IT REAL!!!

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    MUCHO RESPECT FOR DAN HARMON!!! He just gave everybody the realism of hollywood and its patethic suits! He honestly told us what "consulting producers" do and now you see they don't do jack BECAUSE they have no power! Dan, you're a wonderful bastard and NBC, the same fucking network that cancelled Journeyman, are douchebags! Its no fucking wonder NBC is in last place!

  • May 19, 2012, 3:23 p.m. CST

    BTW, what role does Nolan play in Man Of Steel?

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    After Dan Harmon dose-o'-reality I'm not so sure Nolan is keeping Synder i"n check" as the geeks once wish!

  • It would be one thing if Community was a hit. But it isn't. That's why Dan Harmon being such a demanding show-runner doesn't make any sense. If you're not making gold, you don't really have that license. And while Community is geek-gold, it's not mainstream, marketable gold. We had our Dan Harmon trilogy of seasons, and I feel it ended well. I really think under the right direction, Community can still be smart, but also more tangible. NBC doesn't really have any *good* sophomore comedies in the wings to replace office and 30 rock, and retooling a series that has a solid fan base and potential to get more viewers might be its best bet. Yes, community is slated for Friday nights (which is either Drydock or a Graveyard- we don't know which one yet), but I don't think it will stay there for long. I also think it has legs to last many seasons. The characters and chemistry are golden, and NBC/Sony might be making a smart business decision here that doesn't favor the brilliant, but cantankerous Harmon. My biggest fear is for the female Characters on this show. They're so strong, and unique and I hope the actors voice any concerns to the writers if they feel they're not getting the characters right. @FinnMadej on Twitter

  • May 19, 2012, 3:34 p.m. CST

    Well thats Britta'd that.

    by Keith Maniac

    Being a limey i feel a bit like i've not got a dog in this fight (as Mel would say). Whatever, to purposely do these things to such a good show reflects badly on NBC and speaks all too clearly of a den of scoundrels and unprincipled blaggards. This has gone on for years and will go on for years, these people dont deserve your letters or emails, or your online petitions, they just deserve you turning off you television sets.

  • May 19, 2012, 3:39 p.m. CST

    "I think he meant to say he’s sure cookies are yummy"

    by Jake Pantlin

  • May 19, 2012, 3:40 p.m. CST

    This just in: NBC SUCKS!

    by Jake Pantlin

  • May 19, 2012, 3:42 p.m. CST

    Season 3 is good for me.

    by Audio_of_Being

    I watched the finale episodes last night and they provide enough of a series closer for me that I'm not too concerned with feeling like I need to watch a Harmon free fourth season.

  • May 19, 2012, 3:45 p.m. CST

    Gutted. Season 4 cannot be the same.

    by theGoldbergV

    I'd love the new writers to incorporate this into the show somehow, like if season 4 was set in city college with the characters enrolled there for some reason. Sort of the same, but different. Because there's no way season 4 will feel like the previous seasons without Harmon. Yeah apparently he's a pain to work with, well so are Sorkin and Milch. That's the price you pay. I hope they retain some of the magic, but I have a horrible feeling its just not possible. At least if it is terrible we could just pretend like it ended with the s3 finale. Has there ever been a show where a change of showrunner has worked? All I can think of is season 2 of Millennium but that's a stretch...

  • May 19, 2012, 3:49 p.m. CST

    Finngodo

    by Rebel Scumb

    Good point about the female characters, it is one of the best things about the show and the most likely to be ruined in the wrong hands. I also agree with someone's earlier point of them retooling it to grab the BBT demographic of slandering nerds instead of embracing them.

  • May 19, 2012, 3:52 p.m. CST

    Just kill it, already, NBC!

    by Zardoz

    Yeah, it's over. The season finale has become a series finale for me. And it was a great send off! I'll miss you, Greendale!

  • That would certainly be a first...

  • May 19, 2012, 3:57 p.m. CST

    Fuck Chevy

    by Badger23

    Eat shit you dickhead.

  • May 19, 2012, 4:01 p.m. CST

    I don't blame Chevy

    by Jake Pantlin

    I highly doubt he had anything to do with this. he is a secondary character on the show.

  • you heard it here first

  • May 19, 2012, 4:27 p.m. CST

    When you shitcan the creators, you shitcanned the show

    by thelordofhell

    i.e.----Ren & Stimpy, The Gilmore Girls

  • May 19, 2012, 4:29 p.m. CST

    Had Nothing to Do With Chevy

    by Crow3711

    That was a large public disaster, but a relatively small internal matter. You really think the execs with millions at sony give a shit that chevy chase and dan harmon don't like each other? this is terrible news, but it had nothing to do with that. read up.

  • May 19, 2012, 4:29 p.m. CST

    It really should have been the series finale (spoiler)

    by KingKirby

    It really wrapped up most of the outstanding storylines (including bringing back the deceased "Starburns"). While I have loved the show, the only thing I can see at this point is that NBC is trying to pad it a little more for syndication. But for me, the show rolled out to a satisfying conclusion complete with a replay at the end of the entire theme song over shots of the characters moving on. Had it ended with them actually graduating from a two-year community college program, that would have been the ultimate cherry on top. It's just weird that a bunch of shows are only ordering 13 episodes for next season, which does not bode well for the rest of the schedule of 2012-13 programming. But for 3 years of smart and silly comedy, thank you Jeff, Britta, Annie, Shirley, Troy, Abed, Pierce, and to Dan Harmon...well done, Sir. Somebody turn the lights off on the way out, okay?

  • ... and I'm sure the results will be the same... lameness. Just don't freak out Dan and get the property back years later and create something really awful. That was some ironic whit right there.

  • May 19, 2012, 4:39 p.m. CST

    Please cancel this show.

    by Prior Walter

    My favorite show on TV. And it appears season 4 will be fake, not the real Community. Anything that happens is not from th mind of th creator and should never happen. But I'll watch and I'll hate it nd I'll be sad. So just cancel it now. You're going to do it anyway. Don't Weekend at Betnies it.

  • HEY ALL THE REAL DIEHARD COMMUNITY FANS- THE ONES WHO ANXIOUSLY AWAIT EVERY NEW EPISODE LIKE ME- WHAT IF THE SHOW GETS BETTER INSTEAD OF WORSE?????? But no, let's all just bitch bitch bitch and act like spoiled brats who just had mommy stop giving her left tit and started giving you her right for dinner every day. -- -bitch bitch bitch- such children- what a bunch of screeching Abed's most of you sound like. With that said, I hope for the best, don't expect the worst, and , oh fuck this shit - it is such a waste of time writing here to try to be positiveand optimistic about a show that I love when it is so normal to bitch about everything at this site for no other reason than to try to sound like a clever prepube.

  • prior walter - you say But I'll watch and I'll hate it and I'll be sad. Do you have any idea how pathetic you sound with your I know what I like whining mentality? Are you a precog or somethinhg? You can see into the future -- oh god, just fuck all this sad negative shit from dummies...

  • You either replace Rodenberry with Berman and get seasons 3-6(7) of Star Trek The Next Generation or you get Star Trek Nemesis

  • May 19, 2012, 4:56 p.m. CST

    Pooch, consider yourself screwed.

    by gotilk

    Or should I say giraffe? I just have one very important question to ask though. Yeah. One question. Do you capitalize giraffe? Or is it only capitalized when it's like Mr Rufus T Giraffe? I need to know that, that and how many ways do I want the people in charge at NBC to suffer for making such an idiotic mistake? Look at me a year ago. Hahahaha! Fox? They actually did something smart for a change and NBC is the one making the big fuckups in TV now. Who knew? Old self, you so funny.

  • May 19, 2012, 4:59 p.m. CST

    mcgootoo

    by gotilk

    I dunno. Maybe this is one of those times when it's entirely appropriate to be pissed. I get what you mean, but this feels so wrong.

  • May 19, 2012, 5:14 p.m. CST

    I am going to be aggressively not watching next season.

    by Greggers

    Gilmore Girls. Moonlighting. West Wing. The Original Star Trek. Sure, there are a lot of shows out there where the head writer (aka showrunner) can leave, and you hardly notice. Who was the head writer on Cheers? But there are other shows that are so defined by the talent that created them that when they are put into other hands, its undeniable that something is lost. Call it television auteur theory. Community losing Dan Harmon is like Mad Men losing Matthew Weiner, or Breaking Bad losing Vince Gilligan, or etc. etc. And it's not just about the fact that the show will change, it's also about the fact that this feels "wrong." It's like Harmon set up a deal with us: He was loyal to us, fighting to make a good show instead of a phoned in piece of crap (I'm looking at you, BBT), and it almost feels that we owe some loyalty back to him. So yeah, me -- a regular viewer of the show who bought seasons 1 and 2 on DVD -- I'll write this negative bitch post about it, and then just pretend that the end of season 3 was the end of the show and walk away. And I'll look for Harmon's next project.

  • May 19, 2012, 5:14 p.m. CST

    Re:mcgootoo

    by Prior Walter

    I don't need to see into the future. The real Community is done. If Stephanie Meyer wrote an eighth Harry Potter book, I don't give a fuck if it were good. It would stillbea fake HP book.

  • May 19, 2012, 5:17 p.m. CST

    Make him the showrunner for...

    by monkey_tamer

    Cougar Town when it moves to TBS. Lawrence can't do it anymore because of his contract (though, unlike this case, he'll still be involved as Exec. Producer). Community and CT always seemed to have a playful kinship.

  • May 19, 2012, 5:19 p.m. CST

    well played harmon

    by rakesh patel

    AT least you went out guns blazing instead of following their bullshit press release plan. It doesn't bode well for gang does it? #syndicationandanniesboobsspinoff

  • May 19, 2012, 5:19 p.m. CST

    Nnnuts, running with your Trek analogy...

    by Harlock999

    ...I take it everyone is aware that Ira Steven Behr and Robert Hewitt Wolfe are no longer with the SyFy show Alphas? The only reason I watched Alphas (which turned out to be rather good actually) was the presence of Behr and Wolfe ... as I am a HUGE fan of the work they did with Ron Moore on Deep Space Nine. But they won't be part of Alphas this season. And now, Harmon won't be with Community. Honestly, I'll probably still check out both shows. But I'm going into these next seasons with a great deal of skepticism and trepidation.

  • When all you have is analogies to other shows that got worse,- you all succeed at the emotional level, but fail at any kind of real logic- seems like it sucks with this development, based on what happened to other shows? This is the kind of logic that fules the geeks life- it it happened to a, and B, then it must aitomatically happen to C, because the world is so predictable

  • May 19, 2012, 5:31 p.m. CST

    TV that you are an expert at knowing exactly what will happen??

    by Michael Lunney

  • gotilk - of course Dan Harmon getting fired sucks- yeah, but I will still watch instead of automatically assuming the worst -- life is too short to always be so prone to negativity

  • May 19, 2012, 5:35 p.m. CST

    Why is this mcgootoo always complaining?

    by ajit maholtra

  • Not the original Inspector Spacetime show, but a new American one.

  • May 19, 2012, 5:41 p.m. CST

    Chevy Chase does not have the pull to get him fired.

    by Yiggy

    Harmon got himself fired. As has been stated, the studio is just looking at the number of episodes needed for syndication. They want no headaches. No leaked videos. No online bitching. No drama. As good a writer as Harmon may be, those seem to be things that he has trouble delivering.

  • goo, goo, gaa, gaa- the world is over Dan Harmon got fired----- herd mentality- fuck it all...

  • May 19, 2012, 5:46 p.m. CST

    motherfuckers

    by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead

  • I don't think we were supposed to see it, but the top-secret plan for next season of Community has leaked. The new showrunners, who got most of their experience running Just Shoot Me!, have some big changes in store for the Greendale Seven. Laugh tracks, new family members, catchphrases, weddings — everything that makes a sitcom a ratings winner is coming to Community. http://www.billkuchman.com/2012/05/just-shoot-me-showrunners-secret-plan.html

  • May 19, 2012, 5:59 p.m. CST

    Oh God, how come this mcgootoo never shuts up

    by ajit maholtra

  • get rid of Chevy and replace him with a different SNL alum.. Dan Akroyd or Dana Carvey - ANYONE but that asshole Chevy. Fuck you Chevy - hope you're proud of yourself for killing a great show over your ego ya prick.

  • May 19, 2012, 6:30 p.m. CST

    ajit_maholtra - is that a comp[laint

    by Michael Lunney

  • He says she should be more positive and have orgasm in one minute like him lol

  • May 19, 2012, 7:11 p.m. CST

    Blaming Chevy is a huge mistake!

    by don

    Word around town from ex-staffers is that Harmon was a giant ass. He even pretty much admits to that in his follow up blog. Except he justifies it by claiming it was because he cared for the show so much. As someone who has had to work around such a type, lemme tell ya, it gets old FAST! I'm not saying that Chevy hasn't had his moments in the past but in this case he may be like a broken clock- you know, right at least twice a day.

  • May 19, 2012, 7:12 p.m. CST

    This. Seriously. Fucking. Blows.

    by CatVutt

    I don't automatically side with creators, either. They are certainly all too often petty and unreasonable and way too fucking full of themselves and unrealistic expectations for the beloved 'artistic freedom'. <p> But fuck all that shit, this show has been a unique and hilarious voice in a field of crap, and NBC should have just cancelled it if wasn't performing up to their expectations. I hate to bail on the performers, but I really don't want to fucking support this bullshit. <p> The Soup should be REAL interesting this week.

  • Dan Harmon IS Community. This just sucks.

  • May 19, 2012, 7:29 p.m. CST

    This is worse than losing all the cast members.

    by Sean

    Community without Dan Harmon is just an empty shell of a show. This year's season finale was written as a series finale. I'm going to consider it as such. Fucking no talent empty suits.

  • May 19, 2012, 7:39 p.m. CST

    Great comments by Maureen Ryan.

    by CatVutt

    http://tinyurl.com/6tbqvpm

  • May 19, 2012, 7:45 p.m. CST

    I dont see the appeal of this show

    by adzigjo

    Honestly, i've watched season 1 and 2 on dvd... and i don't get it... I also can't stand the guy that was in Road Trip: Beer Pong.... he sucks

  • May 19, 2012, 7:52 p.m. CST

    never watch it, not a fan.

    by JAMF

  • May 19, 2012, 8 p.m. CST

    This has to be

    by GaiustheBrave

    the saddest I've ever felt over a Tv show. Ain't It Very Depressing News.

  • May 19, 2012, 9:07 p.m. CST

    So wish I could say Fuck Sony, but...

    by wash

    ...they are still producing the wonderful Breaking Bad. But still...fudge you, Sony!

  • May 19, 2012, 9:12 p.m. CST

    Comcastic!

    by Mel_Gibsons_Nazi_Dad

  • May 19, 2012, 9:24 p.m. CST

    Fuck, this sucks!

    by NoQuarter

    Thankfully, though, I'm behind on watching season 3 so I still have several sparklingly-new episodes to watch. As far as I'm concerned, this is the best comedy show since Arrested Development, regardless of what season 4 turns out to be.

  • May 19, 2012, 10:09 p.m. CST

    New showrunners doesn't always spell a decline in quality

    by RedBull_Werewolf

    Smallville is the perfect example of how new show runners can actually improve a series. But yes for every smallville there's a heroes. I'm pissed that harman is off the show but we really have no idea how much of the show was him. A lot of the style of the show came from the actors writers and directors and They are still gonna be the same. The show could have a solid 4th season and go on to hair for six season and a movie Network TV can be a tricky playground..all we can do is wait and see

  • May 19, 2012, 10:20 p.m. CST

    Never liked Community, NOW A BIG FAN OF DAN HARMON

    by palpeedude

    I have never been a fan of this horrible show. It looks like a train wreck. After reading this blog I am such a fan of Dan. I didn't even really know who he was until this.

  • May 19, 2012, 10:37 p.m. CST

    He actually reads at lot like Whedon in that blog.

    by CatVutt

  • May 19, 2012, 10:45 p.m. CST

    How the hell do these network execs get jobs?

    by Mr. Voodoo Potato Head

    Community survives this long because of a loyal fanbase. Network execs move it to Friday, because a loyal fanbase will follow it. Then they fire the creator, and think the loyal, educated fanbase will ignore it. I'm sorry, but the rules are different for smart fans.

  • May 19, 2012, 10:49 p.m. CST

    Greg Daniels returning to The Office

    by frankenberry

    In other showrunner news, Greg Daniels is returning to The Office, says The New York Times. Personally, I think the show is trying to get back to its roots. Robert California is gone. Sabre is gone. David Wallace is back. Now, let's have a great final season. Get Carell back for an hour-long finale, give him an Emmy and call it a day.

  • May 19, 2012, 10:54 p.m. CST

    Did NBC fire him or Sony Television?

    by RedBull_Werewolf

    Sounds like NBC doesn't have a say in who runs the show because they don't produce it The real enemy here sounds to be sony. I wonder what their reason was?

  • May 19, 2012, 11:06 p.m. CST

    redbull- It was Sony

    by Cartagia

  • May 19, 2012, 11:27 p.m. CST

    ok so the crys of "fuck NBC" aren't entirley warranted in this case

    by RedBull_Werewolf

    But i suppose NBC does deserve most of it in general.

  • May 19, 2012, 11:34 p.m. CST

    by the_bat

    At it's best, Community is brilliant. At worst, it's maddening, inconsistant and unfun....which seems to be a fairly common description of Dan Harmon. I'll give it a go. What the hell...I've ridden it out this long.

  • May 19, 2012, 11:56 p.m. CST

    Walking dead is another show that survived a showrunner change

    by RedBull_Werewolf

    Season 2 was even better then season 1. I know darrabont fanboys will disagree but they also claim his indy 4 script was "amazing" so they are obviously retarded

  • May 20, 2012, 12:16 a.m. CST

    @redbull_werewolf

    by rakesh patel

    to much redbull is bad for you. your assertion that s2 was better then s1 proves thi.

  • May 20, 2012, 12:16 a.m. CST

    Fuck Sony!

    by rakesh patel

    The Japanese. Such a cruel Race.

  • May 20, 2012, 12:17 a.m. CST

    some background to the culling

    by rakesh patel

    http://www.vulture.com/2012/05/dan-harmon-community-future-nbc-sony.html

  • May 20, 2012, 12:32 a.m. CST

    Get rid of Chevy while you are at it

    by rand514

    He's a hack. Replace him with Leonard. Chase hasn't made me laugh since he was on SNL and I was too young to know he was lame.

  • May 20, 2012, 12:55 a.m. CST

    Chevy is great on Community.

    by Sean Houlihan

    It's the funniest thing he's done in years. And I seriously doubt Chevy had anything to do with Harmon being fired. Chevy could never wrap his mind around how the show worked, but it's clear he appreciates being there and working with this cast. What else is he going to do? It seems like Sony is just going out of their way to bury the show: replacing key members of the staff and moving it to the Friday Night Death Slot.

  • May 20, 2012, 1:10 a.m. CST

    It's not JUST Dan Harmon either

    by Kevin Spellman

    The Russo Brothers, Neil Goldman & Garrett Donovan, Chris McKenna and probably Megan Ganz are ALL gone, and ALL were instrumental in steering the direction of the creative ship that WAS Community. Sony somehow thinks that firing everyone behind the scenes and retooling Community to give it "broader appeal" will improve its ratings. It will of course do the opposite. All they're doing now is alienating their already existing, rabid, die-hard fanbase, and since their partners in crime, NBC, couldn't market their way out of a paper bag, their changes will all amount to fuck all. Season 3 is the last season of Community, as far as this fan is concerned. In fact if it weren't for our love of the cast, people like me would probably be organizing a boycott of Season 4 right now. #threeseasonsandathankyou Dan Harmon & Co. And FUCK YOU SONY TELEVISION. Way to piss off one of the most loyal fanbases in existence right now, you really shot yourselves in the foot with this one. Oh, and thank you Herc for seeing my post in the SNL talkback.

  • May 20, 2012, 1:13 a.m. CST

    @redbull_werewolf

    by Kevin Spellman

    Dan Harmon was a HUGE part of every episode. He said so himself. He was constantly behind the scenes micro-managing. Community was his baby. He spent most of his time in the edit bay. And while the actors will be the same, the directors and writers will not. Sony doesn't WANT Season 4 Community to reflect Dan Harmon's S1-3 Community. They want to turn it into a more traditional sitcom. Expect budget cuts, more traditional writers and directors, and an overall increase in mediocrity.

  • Think about it.

  • I'm not a huge fan of Darabont as an individual, and like Harmon and a lot of iconoclastic showrunners, he was fired in large part due to the fact that he didn't play well with others. But the issue he dug his heels in over was the fact that AMC wanted to give him half the money to produce 3 times as many episodes. He thought the show would suffer, and he was right. 18 hours whisper-fighting on a fucking barn? Give me a break. That's not quality television.

  • May 20, 2012, 3:21 a.m. CST

    Devil's Advocate

    by Waspo

    This is hard to right because I Love Community. Sony firing Mr. Harmon in a crappy Friday night press release is Bush League, and there is no right way to say or cover that up. Nevertheless, this is business and it is not personal and the show must go on.... There are a few ways to look at this whole thing, and I waited a few hours to post something so that the initial reaction wouldn't be so primal. The first way is to say that NBC and Sony stuck with a show that should have been off the air after the first set of 13 episodes, and were kind enough to give us 57 more. The ratings have been terrible, even for a NBC show, and as a reward for us loyal fans they kept the show on the air. They are still keeping the show on the air. The reason it is not personal is that it is business, and firing Mr. Harmon is easier than having him fight for a show that is ultimately doomed, even more so with a Friday night move. It is the equivalent of a NFL Team firing a Head Coach, which happens all the time unbeknown to the coach until a tidy press release happens, much like the one NBC and Sony provided to all of us. The second way to look at it all is because of the business aspect. It does cost money to keep a show in a prime time slot, and if the ratings aren't there Sony and NBC are losing money, and isn't money the reason anything is on television? Even if Community isn't losing money it isn't making them a large amount of money, and again television is a business. I know I going to get flamed for this post, but we have to be adults about this, and not just think with our hearts, because Mr. Harmon pointed the truth out in his blog post, his "Friends" bloodied his nose. Well, they weren't his friends to begin with. Mr. Harmon of all people knows this, as this is a business, and sometimes businesses fail. Hell, Community didn't fail, it succeeded beyond our wildest dreams, and we are lucky, all damn lucky we got the episodes we did get. This won't Be the first or last time a show, Roswell. Angel or Veronica Mars, was ended before all that needed to be said was, but let us not pretend this was personal, because it was business.

  • May 20, 2012, 4:15 a.m. CST

    I've never liked Community, but this is an outrage!

    by baronweazle

    What the fuck, it may not have been a commercial hit. But I've heard nothing but praise from the people who loved it and the guy fucking created it! Do they really think they're going to get new viewers in season 4 by replacing the creator!?! And in such a tactless way as well. Like I said I've never liked Community(the D&D episode excepted, that was some funny shit!) but's that's just due to my taste. It's just not my cup of tea. But I'm definitely not going to watch anymore episodes now! Also kudos to Dan Harmon for being so nice to the new showrunners. He displays something Sony definitely doesn't. Tact and grace. Fuck you Sony executives!!!

  • May 20, 2012, 4:22 a.m. CST

    So were talking the Walking dead here as well eh?

    by baronweazle

    My two cents regarding that show. Season 2 almost made stop me watching it. It had like 4 good episodes out of 13(don't get me started on all the inconsistencies in the awful Sophia storyline!). Mostly it just dragged and was obviously much cheaper than the first season. That having been said, I do think it was flawed under Darabont as well(T-Dog anyone?) and the last couple of episodes of season 2 were pretty good I think. Having read the comics though I still don't understand why the show couldn't follow their storylines a little more. Like I tell my buddies(who just watch the show) all the time. The comic is actually at least ten times as good as the tv show and it's the drama that's much better, not the zombie gore! Still I'll keep watching, we do have the prison and Michonne on the show now!

  • May 20, 2012, 5:11 a.m. CST

    I'm as saddened as all of you but...

    by hst666

    Maybe we could watch in the Fall and determine then whether it sucks or not? Shows have changed show runners before and been OK. It is still the same or mostly the same writing staff, isn't it? And while Dan points out he has no power, he can offer suggestions to the members of that writing staff on those scripts and I am sure at least some of them will listen.

  • I had not read that before posting. Assuming that's true were fucked.

  • Think on that. Interestingly, the IT Crowd pilot featured Joel McHale and Richard Ayoade. And someone associated with Community (I forget who - Joel McHale?) said that they would love for Richard Ayoade to guest on Community in character as Moss. I wonder if this makes that more likely.

  • For me, that's Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles. If that was going to be the case for it to continue, then I'm glad its cancelled. It's a perfect series as is. Again, I say the cast should pact together and quit out of respect for the creator and the integrity of the series itself.

  • May 20, 2012, 6:02 a.m. CST

    To be fair...

    by therightclique

    ...Community has always been a terrible show. That it's lasted this long without any jokes is beyond me. Maybe it will be funny, or otherwise good now.

  • May 20, 2012, 7:15 a.m. CST

    @hst666 - it's true

    by Kevin Spellman

    Donovan and Goldman signed a deal with 20th Century Fox TV earlier this month, so that's a relatively old wound in this seemingly never-ending stream of bad news for Community. Neither of the Russos have directed an episode since 309, the foosball episode, and they've got their hands full with Happy Endings and Animal Kingdom, their new NBC show, so it's been assumed they'd be less active in producing Community for a while now anyway. McKenna confirmed that he's leaving with this tweet http://twitter.com/#!/cpmckenna/status/203696977794449408 and this tweet from Ganz http://twitter.com/#!/meganganz/status/204049099484434433 doesn't sound very optimistic about her future on the show. So yeah. As someone else said on this talkback, it's looking more and more like Season 4 will be CINO. (I always hated the whole -INO thing but....now I finally understand.)

  • May 20, 2012, 8:38 a.m. CST

    Richard Ayoade already did something on Community

    by Reilly

    Pretty sure he directed the dinner with andre episode

  • May 20, 2012, 10:45 a.m. CST

    This is SO bad that it almost seems like a parody

    by gotilk

    of this sort of thing.

  • May 20, 2012, 11:22 a.m. CST

    This isn't personal, it's business.

    by gotilk

    Irrelevant. It's stupid. A show with THIS much fan love, in such huge numbers, has a FUTURE. You could have a show with fantastic ratings and a future in syndication ( Everybody may love Raymond, but they won't remember him in 20 years), but have NO future beyond maybe 8 or 10 years. Community is a show that will live on with fans FAR beyond the next format change-over (blu ray to... ?? ). THIS is what they miss, THIS is the loyalty they have not put a proper price tag on yet (should they? Maybe it will be nice to have something without one for once). Fans that remember, notice. They know what's happened to the show they love and they will NOT forget. That's what counts with shows like this. And they have no clue.

  • BUT BUT BUT IT WON'T BE GOOD WITHOUT HARMON!!!!!!! MAYBE NOT, BUT WATCH THE NEW EPISODES FIRST, THEN BITCH, HARMON DOES NOT NEED YOUR SYMPATHY BY ACTING LIKE THE SHOW NO LONGER IS A VALID SHOW WITHOUT HIM

  • May 20, 2012, 12:51 p.m. CST

    #3seasonsandabetrayal

    by gotilk

    Man, I just burnt through the last 3 episodes finally. Nice way to end the series. They had to have known something. Maybe we'll get that movie someday. But most of all I hope some fan makes that video game. That was brilliant. *Let's* have some chips now.

  • May 20, 2012, 12:53 p.m. CST

    mcgootoo

    by gotilk

    I know, I know. I will watch, if for no other reason than curiosity.

  • May 20, 2012, 12:54 p.m. CST

    And it's not really about it being bad without him.

    by gotilk

    It might be hilarious. That's not what's bothering me. It's the idea of a creation taken from the hands of its creator.

  • I think it all depends on who Chevy plays golf with. Being pals with the right person can make all the difference. Just ask Norm Macdonald.

  • May 20, 2012, 2:15 p.m. CST

    Life Without Harmon

    by wrath 4771

    I don't have high hopes for the show without Harmon and the writers, but because I love the characters so much, I'll give Season 4 a chance. But, the minute it doesn't feel like the Greenville Seven then I'll check out.

  • May 20, 2012, 9:58 p.m. CST

    Even without Harmon...

    by Chris Moody

    ...the show will STILL be better than 100% of the other shows on television.

  • May 21, 2012, 1:10 a.m. CST

    How big of a nightmare must you have been Dan?

    by TheApostle

  • May 21, 2012, 1:14 a.m. CST

    i am never going to let myself fall in love ever again.

    by Gregg Vossler

    i can't keep getting attached to things and then getting hurt. i feel like i sort of want to cry right now. this hurts even more because i was getting so excited about what was happening with the show. it was picking up steam, getting EVEN BETTER, and finding its audience. it was turning into a powerhouse, a force. and now, we'll never see what harmon's season 4 would look like. i guess my clue should have been when, you know, the writing was aimed at ME instead of a broader audience, shit both GOT and STAYED psychedelic, and... wait a second, people are starting to watch this shit- if we just get rid of this guy with the loud, distinctive creative voice we can really middle of the road this thing he's created into a mountain of cash!! yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • May 21, 2012, 1:18 a.m. CST

    mcgootoo come on

    by Gregg Vossler

    it is NOT community without harmon. it's a certain number of actors, characters, a format, sets... it's not community though. you can take a corpse and animated it with wires, but it's not alive for real. for me to keep watching is to say that it's ok for them to do shit like this. that i'll sit there and watch the dancing corpse and not notice anything's wrong. fuck that shit. if i was an actor on the show i'd quite. i'm certainly not going to sit around watching the show get bad.

  • May 21, 2012, 2:24 a.m. CST

    and not to be a whiner (too late)

    by Gregg Vossler

    but looking on this talkback thread, holy crap, how many of you were freaking sleeping on this show? no wonder it didn't have the ratings!

  • May 21, 2012, 2:30 a.m. CST

    Happy Endings

    by mynamesdan

    is a competent show, but it's no community.

  • May 21, 2012, 3:14 a.m. CST

    The End...

    by Ryan

    So what was the point of NOT cancelling the show again? http://batstud.blogspot.com/

  • May 21, 2012, 3:42 a.m. CST

    @gotilk, It is business

    by Finn

    And it's smart business. Format changes are the irreverant factor. I think life after Blue-ray is already here anyway...iTunes, Netflix, etc. (digital) Anyway, you're right; this show would have outlived things like Everybody Loves Raymond, and others. But the cash cow that is network tv, the ad dollars, are more important to a tv network, and more importantly, the executives running the network. It's business because if a freshman executive can turn around a show like Community into a viewer magnet, then he's proven himself and his margins are in the black. It doesn't matter how much money it makes decades from now-- that's not on the radar with anything, ever.

  • May 21, 2012, 3:48 a.m. CST

    @gotilk Creators...

    by Finn

    "It might be hilarious. That's not what's bothering me. It's the idea of a creation taken from the hands of its creator." He created it and sold it to Sony TV to get it made, leaving him with a percentage stake as writer/producer/creator. He didn't get it ripped out of his hands, he sold it to get it made in the first place. So Sony has every right since, well, they own it. I understand it's frustrating, but if you want to see your art all the way through you never sell it. And if you do, expect it to be taken away from you. It's the risk, and maybe compromise, any artist has take on when they play in the business world.

  • May 21, 2012, 4:52 a.m. CST

    laowai_turtlepoke ratings

    by Xen11

    are a joke. I've never seen Community. I'm also not a Nielsen viewer, so it doesn't matter what I see or don't see. I don't even watch television anymore. I might watch reruns late night/early morning of Family Ties and Victorious. I might catch an occasional movie playing on a movie channel. But as for series, fuck that. Why would I watch? Everything great gets canceled or their creator gets raped. I wait until a series is completely over and then watch it all as one big story, which is how it should be. If I was a Nielsen viewer, I would write down or program the shows I know are great (serialized series. Fuck you, procedural pieces of shit.) even if I didn't actually watch them. I work during primetime anyway. Nielsen ratings are a joke. Though, these days it may be needed to fake the numbers to be bigger since, I'm guessing, fewer and fewer people are watching live television. So the overestimation or underestimation of its numbers (1 Nielsen viewer counts for 25,000 people) may actually help your show stay alive.

  • May 21, 2012, 7:16 a.m. CST

    finngodo has no soul

    by ajit maholtra

    He should become a tv executive.

  • May 21, 2012, 8:42 a.m. CST

    what the FUCK? why?

    by thekylegassproject

    how is the creator of such a funny show just cut out of the process like that?

  • May 21, 2012, 9:11 a.m. CST

    This is Chevy Chase's doing.

    by riskebiz

    Something to look forward to: Community that is now more focused around the hijinks of Pierce and jokes/pratfalls that Chevy thinks is funny. Abed also becomes the "Fonzie" of the show. I look forward to Pinky Tuscadero and the shark jumping episode this season, too. The "talent" on the show was not Chevy. They should have just replaced that pain in the ass. As a matter of fact, they should have RECAST the character...now that would have been funny. Nothing good will come of this other than Chevy will become a pariah in the entertainment world and will never work again after Community gets cancelled 3 episodes into the 4th (and last) season.

  • http://gawker.com/5899097/hes-not-chevy-hes-an-asshole-a-history-of-chevy-chases-horrific-behavior

  • laowai_turtlepoke - yeah, right, whatever- you know you will automatically hate the show- then don't watch it, even though it might still entertain you- lighten up - it's only a TV show-- a great one yes...

  • May 21, 2012, 10:59 a.m. CST

    Whither 'Community"...

    by eli_cross_otoole

    I come from the land in which television was invented (ok Logie Baird was Scottish but the United Kingdom can still claim him); in the intervening time we have lost the art of making gripping, moving, gut-busting television. As our former colony (Fnnarr, fnarr) you have surpassed us at every turn...particularly with comedy: "Soap", "The Cosby Show","Cheers", "Frasier", "Friends", "Two and a Half Men" and "The Big Bang Theory" to name but a few. Then came "Community", in this country it had to be tracked down, sought out and dragged into the light but, for die-hard nerds like me it was like a second coming. I cannot remember ANY show (that featured the same characters) being so wildly diverse on a week to week basis. It rewards multiple viewing, richly, and feeds back into nerd-dom in a spectacularly moving, and warming, fashion. With Dan Harmon fired i fail to see how the shows unique tone can endure...to that end I say this: "For evil to succeed it enough that good men do nothing" NBC have succeeded, I know not what else we might do to thwart them? Dan, i do not know you but i already miss your genius...cue the fucking laugh track!!! Amen!

  • May 21, 2012, 11:39 a.m. CST

    Can we find a way of treating S4 as one of the alternate timelines?

    by supertoyslast

  • May 21, 2012, 11:41 a.m. CST

    I actually agree with Chhhrrriiissmmmredux

    by Judge Briggs

    Even without Harmon, this show still be better than other comedies on t.v. Still have Modern Family, Parks and Rec, and once every 2 years, Curb Your Enthusiasm.

  • May 21, 2012, 12:33 p.m. CST

    Im in Chevy's foxhole, guys

    by Arcadian Del Sol

    Chevy Chase has entertained me A LOT MORE than this writer ever did. So when the shells start hitting the trees, Im in Chevy Chase's foxhole. You dont last for decades in hollywood by being a douchebag. But you do get fired before season 4.

  • May 21, 2012, 12:38 p.m. CST

    Does foxhole mean anus?

    by ajit maholtra

  • May 21, 2012, 1:41 p.m. CST

    Interesting thing about COMMUNITY...

    by Chris Moody

    Go back and watch the first few episodes of COMMUNITY. The show has changed quite a bit. The show was much more "reality based" during the first season and the beginning of the second. I guess it is a bit like MASH (slapstick comedy under Colonel Blake, dramedy under Colonel Potter)...or HAPPY DAYS (before and after THE FONZE became the central character)...or CHEERS (mildly intelligent Sam who dated Dianne and dick-for-brains Sam who chased Rebecca). I think that Jeff Winger said it best a couple of weeks ago. He told Britta, "Weren't you smarter when we first met?" I think that was a subtle acknowledgement that the show and the characters have changed. Still, I am not complaining. Like a good pizza, COMMUNITY is fantastic anyway it is served!

  • May 21, 2012, 3:02 p.m. CST

    @ajit_maholtra just read that gawker piece Chase sounds horrific

    by rakesh patel

    I like Chevy's moments on screen, i mean they're actually quite funny as i get his gags. However, if he's the root of issues, he needs to go. I've ben in situations where one fucker changes the whole dynamic. and y'know life's too short dealing other peoples problems and arseholes. watching the extra background stuff on you tube and dvd he doesn't seem part of the group. this may simply be because he out of the age range of the rest of the gang, or it could be because he's an ass. the evidence is stacking up against him on that page. Hell even starburns! ah well, we'll always have fletch. and that segment in the ghostbusters music video.

  • May 21, 2012, 4 p.m. CST

    Correcting the massive ignorance

    by Razorback

    1) SONY owns the show not NBC. 2) SONY fired Dan Harmon, not NBC. 3) NBC licenses the show from SONY. 4) NBC didn't ask SONY to fire Dan Harmon. 5) NBC also didn't ask them NOT to fire Harmon. 6) NBC has no ability to destroy the show so that Netflix can't pick it up. 7) SONY has already sold cable syndication rights to Comedy Central, and streaming rights to Hulu (meaning, it is unlikely that Netflix could do anything anyway until the Hulu contract ends).

  • May 21, 2012, 6 p.m. CST

    I'm torn here

    by MurderMostFowl

    Harmon of course was the soul of the show, but his methodical method of story planning probably rubbed off enough on the other writers to continue it a season more. If they get someone in there with some talent to lead the show who thinks what Dan Harmon has done is good, ( by that I mean someone who isn't trying to make a name for themselves and dramatically take the show in another direction ) then I bet it won't be so hard to pull off. But letely the show has been....weelllll... just ok. Lets all be honest here... they went back to the best jokes and concept episodes way too frequently. There haven't been many "normal" episodes to keep us out of "silly-town" ( which is what my wife calls the concept episodes ) One problem with this last season is that it basically killed all character development. By that I mean "normal" relatable character development... stuff tied closer to reality, and more observational humor instead of "aint this character Cray-Zee!" stuff. Despite there being bigger laughs in some of the crazy stuff, it's the "normal" stuff that lays all the foundation for the big pay off later.

  • May 21, 2012, 8:16 p.m. CST

    Yeah, CC is a dick...

    by BurnedNotice_Dude

    but don't blame him for Harmons dismissal. Harmon has had issues for quite some time not only on Community but other projects. This turd screwed himself. Maybe he should have grown up a little. All of this wouldn't be happening. Now, it's cost him. I say farewell and thanks for screwing the fans.