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Ridley Scott Reveals One Tiny Nugget About The 'Protagonist' Of The BLADE RUNNER Sequel...
We have a very good take on it. And we’ll definitely be featuring a female protagonist.
BLADE RUNNER composerr Vangelis in 1960s group Aphrodite's Child - a song called, interestingly enough, 'Rain and Tears'
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Just wondering
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May 18, 2012, 1:11 p.m. CST
Hey, I know! Get that Mila Beckinsale chick to do it. You know, the one with the two guns and the leather and the slow mo.
by P
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If Hampton Fancher is just "shaping" it, who is the one laying the base?
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You're existence is empty.
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What the hell is wrong with you people? You aren't famous. You'll get more attention if you say something with substance. Though you are undoubtedly incapable.
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zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...........
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...and even I don't want a sequel. I remember Scott claiming (very early on) that he wanted to be the 'John Ford of science fiction'. I was kind of hoping he might fancy taking that mantle up again and giving us 'The Forever War' rather than this.
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http://www.fun nyordie.com/videos/1b65bdc3b4/first-commenter-with-patton-oswalt?rel=by_user
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There is a huge deficit of quality films in the sci-fi category. (Not that I'm complaining; a sequel to Blade Runner sounds awesome.)
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There are a lot of great ideas in Blade Runner with amazing visuals and Ridley Scott deserves a lot of credit, but it's completely overrated as a movie and it hasn't aged well. Truth hurts. >_<
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May 18, 2012, 1:26 p.m. CST
No sequel please! But UBIK or THREE STIGMATA OF PALMER ELDRITCH
by Gorgomel
Now, that would be something I would like Ridly Scott to direct.
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When I actually sat and watched it I was a bit confused as to the appeal. I mean don't get me wrong I think the concept is great, some of the visuals work, but on a whole uh it put me to sleep.
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Why dont you call it HairyTwat Runner
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Who's "ben heating"? As is "ben heating about lately". Wow..
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May 18, 2012, 1:30 p.m. CST
And I hate Remakes, of classic films. But I just guess it wasn't for me.
by Wcwlkr
It just doesn't hold up to me.
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May 18, 2012, 1:31 p.m. CST
Does Ridley Scott have a massive unpaid tax or alimony due? bill /
by rakesh patel
double dipping on your greatest hits. MY spidey sense is tingling dammit.
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FUTURESKEET!
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is that its suddenly forgotten. The AVERAGE modern-day moviegoer judges movies from previous eras by contemporary standards. I'm not defending the slower pacing of older films, but one has to consider the context of the time when some of these movies came out. Maybe I'm talking to the wrong crowd.
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"I'm not criticizing Hollywood because I work there, I partly live there. But I'm saying this is the way it is, commerce is taking over art. Commerce has become the most important thing in the film industry. Hollywood is an industry, it's not an art form, therefore they have to address the bottom line. But in a way it's sad when you get a remake, isn't it?!"
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I would hope as they explore ideas that Fancher and Scott peruse some philosophy books and discover and process themes that are really it, which is what made Blade Runner so incredible to begin with. A successful sequel needs to ask larger questions then the first installment. I wouldn't even be opposed to Lindelof being asked aboard should Prometheus be proven to work.
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People are still doing this? In 2012? Fuckin' fucks.
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May 18, 2012, 1:44 p.m. CST
Everybody Chill, it'll share DNA with Blade Runner and go deeper into the origami unicorn
by Domi'sInnerChild
Reboot.
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In fact I'd rather not a see a remake of anything ever again. I can't remember the last remake that didn't suck balls.
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May 18, 2012, 1:48 p.m. CST
Is the female protagonist really a female or a man? Make it ambiguous Ridley
by atlatl
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PICSORITDIDNTHAPPEN!
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May 18, 2012, 1:51 p.m. CST
Bladerunner has not aged. Fuck off. The effects stand up to any modern pish and i hope they use model work as in the original. The music is perfect and the style as it should be. Blade Runner aged badly. Fuck right off.
by borisdoris
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Lets go -Namaste-
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May 18, 2012, 1:53 p.m. CST
Remake that didn't suck balls. Eh...Carpenters Precint 19, The thing I could go on.
by borisdoris
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Interesting so many say it hasn't aged well. Compare it to "Return of the Jedi" or any 80's sci-fi, for crying out loud. I'd say it holds up extremely well. The opening shot of the LA wasteland is still jarring and shocking. The score is still empty and haunting. Let alone the film itself - the set designs, the ideas of AI ethics, the blurring of cultures, the oversaturation of advertising and commercialism... all relevant and current. Yes, the pace is slow and deliberate, but that is a storytelling choice and not due to aging. Hollywood had the same complaints when it came out. It is a noir detective flick and not "The Avengers." For those of us that love it, who get immersed in the world and the ambiguity of the characters (how many ruthless villains could also be read as Christ figures?), it is like reading a detailed novel instead of a quick, empty read.
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There's what, like 4 different versions? I really have no idea which one is supposed to be "it" either. I'm guessing the last one where they actually shot new footage.
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Shit...could be cool. Heres hoping.
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so let's hope he picks one of his female leads from Prometheus and not The Counselor...if I see a Blade Runner sequel with Cameron Fucking Diaz or Penelope Cruz I'll lose it
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Man, this great news. I'm all for a female protagonist. I was hoping they wouldn't continue Deckard's story. Seems like it's perfect just the way it is. I just finished reading Future Noir: The Making of Blade Runner and it's a damn good read. It sounds like BR was a nightmare to create for all involved but in the end they created not just one of the best SF movies ever, but one of the best in any genre. And I'm thrilled to hear that Hampton Fancher is back to pen this second installment. Without him there would be no Blade Runner (Of course, there would be no Blade Runner without Phillip K. Dick, but Hampton was the one that was passionate about his book and pushed it into being a film). My hat's off to you Hampton.
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I presume anyone who says that has not aged much themselves.
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Unlike Lucas Ridley gives you the option to watch whatever version you like best...of the 4 versions there is no "right" one...just which ever version is your personal favorite...so when is George gonna give us that freedom with the star wars films?? oh yeah NEVER!
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Of course we don't know the age but I would guess no younger than 25 and maybe as old as 35 to 40. Saoirse Ronan (a little young but a great actress) Jessica Chastain Rooney Mara Anybody that I'm missing?
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May 18, 2012, 2:04 p.m. CST
Anyone else getting sick to death of the trumped up, badass female protagonists?
by ravenloff
Yeah, me too. Thank God for the Human Wave in sci-fi that's building.
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no to Chastain...Mara could be great, Ronan too...but like I said before Ridley is a serial re-user of talent...so I can see Rapace or Theron getting a serious look
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Ridley invented the badass female protagonist...so he can use that device as often as he'd like...it's not trumped up if it's a Ridley Scott film
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wait, I guess with cell phones that expression is dead.
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comments on the film?
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Anyone sick of whiny misogynists who desperately need to see even more cock in films than there already is? Do you really need yet another male lead when most leads are already men anyway? Are you that desperate for penis? Was it even mentioned anywhere that she would be 'badass'? Um nope... and I wouldn't give a shit if she was. And if Ridley Scott was at the helm, even better.
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Yes.
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I'm as big a fan of Blade Runner as anyone you'll meet so I'm cautiously optimistic over this one. If Prometheus is as great as I hope, my optimism will increase. Most here are assuming Noomi Rapace for his female protagonist but I wouldn't be surprised if he went with Charlize Theron. She is a bigger draw in the U.S. and you know studios are gonna want some sort of name attached to the film since the first was technically a commercial failure. To greenlight its sequel with a lesser name in the lead role doesn't seem possible in today's Hollywood. I hope we see the return of some of the other inhabitants of L.A. 2019. Would love to see Gaff and Bryant return in some capacity!
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May 18, 2012, 2:31 p.m. CST
If anything, Blade Runner was ahead of it's time. It's better now than when it was released, but it remains a flawed film.
by hank henshaw
The original release has that uninspired voice-over that Ford phoned in, and the Director's Cut has the stupid "Deckard is a replicant" nonsense.
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It hasn't aged well? You you fuckers stupid?Watching it on a big ole LED TV and it's still the best sci-fi special fx to date. It's absolutely beautiful still, not sure what movie you're watching. All of the themes are relevant, Sean Young looks hot as hell and doesn't look "dated" like some Sci-fi will cliche fashion of the era. It is semi-slow and isn't an action movie so if that is your expectation of all sci-fi, sorry we can't help you there. I saw and feel in love with this movie in 1984 on VHS, I was in 4th grade.
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A nonsensical plot. A shoe-horned in "love story" where there was nothing resembling chemistry between the two star-crossed lovers (not to mention almost no screen time). Visually, evocative as hell. Everything else? Forgettable as hell.
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Adult Sci-Fi. Smarter than most movie go'ers. I thought about Blade Runner the entire time I watched Inception.
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and some fucker will say its overrated.
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Bad boy, dirty boy, to your bed!
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It's a much better and much different story from "Blade Runner" but probably over most people's heads. Still it would be great to see.
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Thank you Ridley.
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May 18, 2012, 3:02 p.m. CST
@scorchy: "Visually, evocative as hell. Everything else? Forgettable as hell."
by Henri Pouper
100% correct. Finally, someone says it. Sick to death of everyone licking and sucking on this movie's dry, stubbly, innie cunt. Yeah it's got cunt (not all movies do), and we all love cunt, but I've had much better cunt, let me tell you. I like my cunt outie, meaty, sopping wet, pungent, and bushy or hairless. I want to burp from eating it so much. Like 2001, Alien, Star Wars (4 and 5), Star Trek I, etc. Not this visually impressive spectacle with a derivative and threadbare plot.
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99.9% or remakes are disposable garbage but there are a few that were decent (I prefer the creepy Amityville Horror remake to the cheesy original). Every John Carpenter movie that has been remade....TRASH.
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Another one needing his wanking chariot then.
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http://77.247.181.97/big/l/e/s/lesbo/lesbo_2ec444.jpg OK?
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May 18, 2012, 3:18 p.m. CST
Dawn of the Dead remake missed the sly wit of the original
by cookylamoo
Sure it had a bigger budget and better effects but as social satire it was just an ok Zombie movie. I might add that the Walking Dead is also a grim, humorless affair.
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Whers's this site Men in Black 3 and Judge Dredd reviews
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May 18, 2012, 3:20 p.m. CST
in 3rd act of film...she finds a photo of Deckard and the Sean Young.
by future help
they are her parents
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May 18, 2012, 3:20 p.m. CST
Ridley can do no wrong. KIDS MAKING FILM TODAY BETTER TAKE NOTES - You lazy fucks could learn a lot from a real master.
by MENTALDOMINANCE
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May 18, 2012, 3:24 p.m. CST
How do two replicants produce a child? Life will find a way.
by cookylamoo
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May 18, 2012, 3:33 p.m. CST
love blade runner. first prometheus and then blade runner 2 = peel me up off the theater floor.
by alice133
so noomi rapace? charlize theron?
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May 18, 2012, 3:33 p.m. CST
Bladerunner critics tedious vainglorious attention deficits.
by thomskis
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May 18, 2012, 3:52 p.m. CST
so because you think Blade Runner is overrated this is "truth"
by Winston Smith
And truth hurts? Well I think you're a fucking idiot. Truth hurts, doesn't it? It amazes me the ignorance on a site like this about movies like Blade Runner. You fucking idiots, 80s films were paced very similarly to today's movies. Blade Runner was SLAMMED for it's slow pace when it first came it. It was nicknamed fucking Blood Crawler. You guys think you're so original. What next, are you gonna say, "I know this isn't the popular opinion but Apocalypse Now looks like it had a bit of a troubled production." Really, there's nothing I hate more than people taking the single most known idea or criticism of a work and spouting it off like they're somehow original and saying something that hasn't ALWAYS been said. Yes, Blade Runner has a SLOW FUCKING PACE. Yes, this KILLED it at the boxoffice in 1982 and was the main complaint. But then some people realized, wait a second, the film might be slow but there's no wasted time, and in fact it's quite a deep film that creates a cinematic world unlike any other. And then as people started to talk about the themes of the film and the ending and the production design, all the fucking yokels who passed on it for being slow no longer were the sole voice defining the film. This is why, just like Fight Club, BR is synonymous with movies that were dismissed upon their release but are now loved. But of course you fucking morons who post on a website for movies probably will have a great comeback, like... "Er, 2001 A Space Odyssey is pretty slow. I mean no dialogue in the first 20 minutes or whatever, SLOW! I know, truth hurts doesn't it. Standards are just different today than they were in 1968." Seriously... I'm used to AICN talkbackers, but it seems as of late casual film fans have been taking over this website and preaching the most obvious bullshit like they've got some great opinion that's never been heard before.
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May 18, 2012, 3:54 p.m. CST
@thefirstcause, you're obviously misunderstanding the point Raveloff was making.
by kevred
And in process of doing so, use homophobia in the process of calling someone misogynist. The count is 0-2.
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I know some people loved Signs, but I thought the ending with the water was kinda lame. Truth hurts. God I'm so original...
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I know most people think Return of the Jedi is the best Star Wars film but I actually prefer The Empire Strikes Back. Truth hurts.
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Man I know everyone has a hardon for The Tree of Life but I thought it was slow and pretentious. I'm like the only one, too! But my opinion is better and more original than yours. Truth hurts.
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I know everyone thinks Death Proof is Tarantino's best but I actually thought it was his worst film and kinda dialogue-heavy and too self-referential. Truth hurts.
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Man, Spider-Man 3 is considered the best of the bunch but I thought it was bloated and had too many villains. And what was up with that Jazz club? I'm so tired of how nobody is talking about this. I SPEAK THE TRUTH!
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May 18, 2012, 4 p.m. CST
Seriously, slow your roll. Last two films were Robin Hood and Body of Lies
by Domi'sInnerChild
If Prometheus has a bad script, he could be going into a DePalma nosedive.
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I'm just gonna go out on a limb. I know this isn't the popular opinion but... I liked The Dark Knight better than Batman Begins. I know... the truth hurts, doesn't it?
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Why did Body of Lies suck again? I saw it on DVD actually hearing bad reviews and thinking the trailer looked boring. But instead I got a clever, well-written well-directed political thriller with some clever satiric overtones. I kinda feel like most people who say Body of Lies sucks haven't even seen it and are just bullshitting because it didn't make money and had weak advertising. Because there's really nothing to hate in the film, it might not be your cup of tea but there's certainly nothing embarrassing in it. Hmm, I'm sorry I mean... I know this isn't the popular opinion but Body of Lies sucks! And I haven't even seen it!
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May 18, 2012, 4:06 p.m. CST
It seems like replicants’ reproductive systems would be functional
by frank
unless they were specifically designed not to be. My understanding is that they are essentially identical to naturally-produced organisms, with genetic alterations to give them higher intelligence, shorter lifespans etc. Seems like they should be able to do some kind of genetic test to identify replicants, rather than having to rely on the VK test.
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you've been talkbacking with yourself for a while now...having fun?
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For those prematurely dumping on this movie (and tragically that included aicn writer Beaks in an earlier TB) before it has even gone into pre-production let me tell you this... It will be better than 95% of the other movies released in that year. How do I know this? It's Ridley Scott. It's sci-fi.
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May 18, 2012, 4:33 p.m. CST
I doubt you'd build in an experation date and then allow reproduction.
by cookylamoo
But life will find a way.
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May 18, 2012, 4:37 p.m. CST
Screw all this Bladerunner talk. Did anyone else make it through that Aphrodite's Child video?
by shran
My acid trips weren't that wonky. That was crazy awful. The guys voice, the "Vangelis staring into the camera", the drum shot from the crotch, the flute sound coming from a penny whistle, the cello part coming from a Hammond organ, the break-in-the-music-angelic-voice-shot-of-a-statue bit. Wow. Awful. Wow.
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Homophobia? Did you not read the title of my post? I said there was nothing wrong with him if he liked penis. I'm not homophobic, and nothing I wrote was homophobic. My gf has multiple gay male friends that I get along with. I was calling Ravenloff out because if someone is THAT sick of watching female leads… when there are already SO few of them to begin with, it leads me to giggle at the only other option, which is to see MEN, MEN, MEN instead. Which was probably not what Ravenloff was consciously thinking. Which then leads to the thought of why does one want to see men so much? Misogynists are often homophobic idiots also, and just trashy people in general, so calling them out on how their behaviour could be perceived as gay is hilarious to me. It is fun to make them uncomfortable in their own heads. Hey if he's gay that is fine, I think he should have the right to marry… but even then he'd still be an asshole for demanding that men EXCLUSIVELY take up all lead roles in film. He was also complaining about badass women…. when Ridley Scott never said anything about the character being a badass woman. Not that there would be anything wrong with a badass woman either. But clearly Ravenloff just doesn't like seeing women in lead roles or else the simple mention of a 'female protagonist' wouldn't have caused him to make such a comment. So pretty much ALL roads lead to him be worthy of ridicule. In the end he is still a misogynist that wants more men in an already overflowing pile of male driven films, and I called him on it, going for the 'hey you must love cock' route. The act of noticing and pointing out the homosexual undertones to someones behaviour/words isn't homophobia, just as it isn't heterophobic to notice that men like women. So no, there is no 2-0. There is no competition here at all.
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I wanna see sir Ridley's version of that.
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Classical, old-school filmmaking, great photography, awesome score. All you goats that thought it was slow and boring can fuck off and watch some Abrams/Kurtzman/Orci bullshit.
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There are too few Good Sci-fi directors these days I don't know if studios have become gun shy of spending the money that needs to be spent with unproven directors but Im glad we have Mr. Scott still making intelligent sci-fi.
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Replicants have taken over Tyrell corporation. run by Rutger Hauer pretending to be the ceo. Mila Jojovich plays the new Blade Runner replicant. Olmos is the new LA police chief. He still has his cane. Adriana Palicki plays the pleasure model who hides in the trash.
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please no noomi rapace. I'd like to actually be able to enjoy looking at the screen and listening to the protagonist speak. almost as bad as maggie gyllenhaal
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Scott: Hey Hampton, let's make Deckard a female! Fancher: Hey, cool idea man!
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May 18, 2012, 7:22 p.m. CST
"Oh well, hopefully, Theron cosplays as Pris and overloads on eye shadow make-up. I'll watch the new BR just for that."
by CodeName
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"The new BR can't carry itself with the main as a female, granted, I love that species to death, albeit, they can really get on my nerves when they freaking nitpick and start fights while they are wrong. Females are wrong 99% of the time, but us guys put up with them, because they have that "other" part that we need. I agree. NO to a main female lead, but YES to a female protagonist that motivates the main who is a man."
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May 18, 2012, 7:25 p.m. CST
Ridley, you are married. You should know. Do not Avatard BR.
by CodeName
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May 18, 2012, 7:41 p.m. CST
I hope it's called Dangerous Days. I'm sure the 100th geek to say that, but whatever.
by Jay
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The original Lost smoke monster hunts down rogue replicant smoke monsters, then has an identity crisis. if Lindelof is involved, that is.
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Brit Marling? Rooney Mara? Or, the obvious: Noomi Rapace???
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May 18, 2012, 8:34 p.m. CST
I really don't get the whole anti-female stuff from people here. I'm all for strong female leads, especially in action roles. Not like the guys are doing such a good job these days anyway.
by cookepuss
Could use a few more chicks kicking ass.
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For never getting nominated with the Dragon Tattoo movies (which came to peoples attention too late or were too small/foreign to get an Oscar nod). She is also in De Palma's Passion which looks good. If these movies are both great her reputation will be in line with actors like Michael Fassbender. By the time Blade Runner 2 comes around she may be a big enough star to headline a big budget movie.
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I have a bunch. They can be fun. But it's quite another to blithely insult a film that's plainly a work of genius, which Blade Runner so obviously is, as 'forgettable' and 'boring.' That's just trollery and making an ass of yourself and showing the world how stupid and unsophisticated you are. There is no serious student of film who doubts the import of Blade Runner.
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As a fan of film noir,I should know this,but has there been any good female film noir roles? 'Cause I'm a dude and I find the idea of a hard-drinking haunted Cyberpunk female Blade Runner to be MASSIVELY appealing. Theres a ton of story ideas you could do with a woman who's not quite sure if shes human or not in that world.
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Angelina Jolie. Just watch.
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who gives a fuck?!
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First we had talkbackers shitting all over Aliens and T2, but now they've turned their wrath to Blade Runner! This shit has got to be stopped. The line must be drawn here, this far no further!
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If PROMETHEUS is a failure, the terrorists win.
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I'm almost certain of it. Her career is on the fast track, and a Blade Runner sequel would probably be Oscar-level performance.
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...Bladerunner is Scotts film...if he says deckard is a replicant...then hes a replicant. Nothing worse than a nerd who wants films to only be the way THEY want it. Thats why he films are as bad as they are nowadays. Oh and Scott dont give a shit about your opinion. If prometheus doubtfully flops its no biggy (scotts had plenty o BO failures but hes earned to make the films he wants to) ...if its a great film? Thats what counts. Not box office numbers.
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Its Russell Crowe with a mangina a wig and his big hairy moobies out (back in gladiator shape)
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him being a replicant misses the whole fucking point of the movie. Then again so does the bullshit narration and Rachel not having a due date.
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May 19, 2012, 7:30 a.m. CST
Smart move. Nixes any Deckard/Ford comparisons from the off.
by davidwebb
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May 19, 2012, 9:14 a.m. CST
Ridley Scott is directing the next Blade-Runner with Rockstar Games. Blade-Runner 2 will be a flagship release for the up-coming PS4.
by UltraTron
Now I'm excited as I can be.
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May 19, 2012, 9:16 a.m. CST
Prometheus will win best picture just like Alien should have
by UltraTron
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like, a free DVD or somethin'
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May 19, 2012, 9:25 a.m. CST
This article serves as a reminder to George Lucas: FUCK YOU FROGNECK!
by theplant
oh yeah! GOUT!
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May 19, 2012, 10:07 a.m. CST
Deckard is a replicant being manipulated into cleaning up the company's earlier rogue models. As evidenced by the way his eyes glow in the same fashion as the replicants and the suggestion of implanted memories that
by UltraTron
olmos seems to know about. And that's the director's final cut boys and girls
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May 19, 2012, 10:08 a.m. CST
It was always supposed to be in the original but the editor fucked it all up. So fucking know something about your movies before you comment
by UltraTron
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This is the same senile behavior that destroyed Star Wars saga (and Darth Vader figure, turned from n°1 bad mofo of cinema to a crying spoiled brat). Scott has been doing mediocre movies for the last 15 years. There is some SLIGHT chance Prometheus will be decent, but two decent movies in a row would be a miracle. Not to mention the fact that Blade Runner is perfect as it is. But with this wave of crappy remakes, prequels and sequels, this is inevitable, I guess.
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May 19, 2012, 11:40 a.m. CST
ultratron, I know you're in the idustry so I know what you're talking about
by Mugato5150
And I get all the symbolism that suggests that Deckard is a replicant but to me that was the point. Deckard was more of an android than the androids he was hunting. Roy Batty was "more human than human" in that he had a moment of humanity that Deckard never had when he sapred Deckard's life. When Rachel asked Deckard if he ever took the test, it wasn't a wink to the audience, it was a statement that Deckard is an inhuman prick. That was the point.
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I give it six months before the talkbackers collectively shit all over Raiders, Back to the Future, Jaws and Empire.
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... I doubt we're gonna wanna see Sir Ridley's sequel/re-boot/same-DNA/shit-upon of Blade Runner.
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Yeah, only 16 or so years after 'The Avengers' featured its own badass female protagonist on a weekly basis. Even 'Doctor Who' and 'Blake's 7' had badass female protagonists before Ripley came along (and, even then, she didn't become 'badass' until the mid fucking '80s, after Cameron had written his 'Rambo: First Blood 2' script and added some tits and spaceships to it).
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I wanna get high, then shoot myself to kill the pain.
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...ok, precinct, I've only seen the original. So you've got me there. I heard the remake wasn't great though. Maybe I should find out for myself. Accepted. But The Thing (1982) was not a remake. JC went back to the original story and started afresh, title excepted, this was more of a (forgive me) reimagining (before this horrible word was invented). And to the quake ii, I didn't hate the Dawn remake, I'll give you that. But it wasn't better than the original. By a long shot. Still, probably responsible for us getting the Walking Dead etc. so that's something. So, vindicated I stand. Remakes generally suck balls. There are a very small number of exceptions. As there are to any rule of thumb. But I'm so burnt I doubt I'll ever go see another remake.
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Get Vangelis and David Peoples on board, along with Edward James Olmos returning as Gaff, and I may change my mind.
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he's gonna go Prometheus on it, and pre-empt the original. I'm calling it.
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it actually IS a proper sequel, that is
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Maybe it's a daughter? If she's half as batshit as Sean Young this could be rad.
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Okay, so Alien, Blade Runner and Legend were all fine, fine pictures. But Gladiator was really overrated, A Good Year sucked arse, his Christopher Columbus biopic sucked arse, and Hannibal is an AWFUL film.
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May 19, 2012, 8:24 p.m. CST
halfbreedqueen: BR failed on initial release not because of it's pace but because of studio tinkering with Ridley's cut and bad marketing. (Selling it as if it was an action flick. It's not.)
by MENTALDOMINANCE
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May 19, 2012, 8:25 p.m. CST
halfbreedqueen: Also, how can you say films today are paced like film from the 80's? All they do today is shake the camera and compile streams of a.d.d. 1/2 second cuts. There IS no real film making going on today for the most part.
by MENTALDOMINANCE
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May 19, 2012, 8:26 p.m. CST
brodiebruce: Gladiator is over rated by Kingdom of Heaven DC is a masterpiece. Same with THE DUELLISTS. And even Ridley's bad shit is still gorgeous. (1492) Ridley is probably the best film maker of our generation.
by MENTALDOMINANCE
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May 19, 2012, 8:29 p.m. CST
Who here hopes if PROMETHEUS does good they finally give John Carpenter the money to make THE THING sequel with Childs and MacReady's age being explained via frostbite? Necessary = Rob Bottin, Dean Cundy, and hey... Ennio Morricone is still alive but I re
by MENTALDOMINANCE
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May 19, 2012, 8:30 p.m. CST
really would love for Carpenter to just get off his lazy ass and score the thing himself. And stop messing around with crap movies like this comic teenage girl thing he's considering...
by MENTALDOMINANCE
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Shaky cam actually has nothing to do with pacing. I'm talking PACE. Look at last summer... Rise of the Planet of the Apes, Harry Potter 7.2, X-Men First Class, Captain America. Look at big 80s movie... Raiders, Temple of Doom, Die Hard, SW original trilogy, Predator, Aliens, etc. Pacing-wise, we're still very much in an era defined by the 80s genre pics. If anything that's what people aspire to, and for good reason even in a lot of cases. As for Blade Runner, the pace as a big factor for why it didn't make money. All the reviews bitched about. Regardless of tinkering, the pace was something people bitched about. As for bad advertising, of course, but then again what's the most superficial big difference between an all out action movie and a deeper philosophical sci-fi odyssey? PACE. Also, Gladiator is not overrated. If anything it's underrated. But you are right... 1492 is one of the most beautiful films ever shot. The blu-ray is incredible.
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May 19, 2012, 10:44 p.m. CST
Ninja Bob is a retarded asshole who doesn't know shit about film
by proevad
Truth hurts
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I'm worried about the script. I don't see much previous credits for Spaithis and Lindeloff was from Lost and Star Trek. Well Ridley's an artist himself and does his own great storyboarding, but not sure where he's taking the story or just going by what Lindeloff and Spaithis come up with..
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@metaldominance. I agree that a John Carpenter-directed sequel to "The Thing" would be brilliant...but it wouldn't. Why? Because even though I love the Carpenter films of the 70s and 80s, unfortunately Carpenter's star has waned. RS was given the money and go-ahead to make "Prometheus" because his films still make buckets of money. And they are still great films. The suits can be confident he wil produce something that will bring in the money and maybe even garner an Oscar. But John Carpenter these days? Someone upstream made a really good point about RS when they said that he was almost 80 but his films did not seem like the films of an old man. Unfortunately, JC is only in his 60s and his recent fare really do seem like the films of an old man. I wish it wasn't so, but I do not believe Carpenter could recapture the lightening in the bottle. Which is a real pity considering the pathetic prequel that just came out and sullied the memory of the original. And a real pity because Carpenter's films of the 70s were awesome in their brilliance.
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Stop sending me pictures of your mum.
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May 20, 2012, 6:21 a.m. CST
Tron Legacy would've been better with Quorra as
by Bedknobs and Boomsticks
the protagonist, so this is welcome change from the expected.
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I'm hoping you're not seriously suggesting that Alien was more deserving of a Best Picture statue than The Deer Hunter. I would agree that overall, Alien was snubbed by the Academy that year. Couldn't even get nominated in the few technical categories available at that time.
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Ford should have been listened to. Deckard should not be a replicant. Can't even watch that movie anymore. And it is a great looking movie. It just needs to be left alone. IMHO.
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Ridley Scott as Director. With Nathan Fillion as Deckard, Victor Garber as Roy and Morena Baccarin as Rachael. Give me a prize because I just remade a masterpiece with a masterpiece.
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'There are a lot of great ideas in Blade Runner with amazing visuals and Ridley Scott deserves a lot of credit, but it's completely overrated as a movie and it hasn't aged well.' You are either a troll or a total fucking idiot.
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'I'm hoping you're not seriously suggesting that Alien was more deserving of a Best Picture statue than The Deer Hunter.' I would say that Alien is the greater piece of cinema. I haven't seen a good Ridley Scott movie since Thelma and Louise, though. Is he really going to turn it all around by returning to sci-fi? I guess we're about to find out... Oh btw I also don't believe that Scott has final authority over whether Deckard is a replicant, and while I like the ambiguity, I've never personally leaned towards that interpretation. The fact that Deckard can doubt his own humanity is vital. But if he were actually a replicant, it would IMO weaken the story and its themes.
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