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Here's A Four Minute Trailer For THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN!!
NBC ran a four minute preview of THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN during tonight's Howard Stern-fueled premiere of AMERICA'S GOT TALENT.
Stern was, predictably, fantastic on the show - my strong hunch is he'll soon convert many wary Americans with his quick wit and charm. This preview? Well, you tell me...
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Jesus, just show the whole movie.
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May 14, 2012, 9:09 p.m. CST
"This summer's most anticipated film." Uh, more like "Didn't I already see this with that kid from the Cider House Rules"?
by Rex Carsalot
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Emma Stone.
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May 14, 2012, 9:13 p.m. CST
With Avengers, TDKR and Spider-Man, this summer is an embarassment of riches
by 3D-Man
for superhero movie fans.
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Would it be to much to ask for these overpaid "movie stars" to actually WEAR the costumes masks for more than 10 seconds in these movies?
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Fuck off.
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can have their property back. I want to see Spiderman in Secret Wars.
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I'm trying so hard. Looks shit.
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May 14, 2012, 9:19 p.m. CST
I MADE A FILM. ITS CALLED THE WOLFMAN'S HAMMER. YOU CAN WATCH IT FOR FREE. I'D BE GRATEFUL IF YOU GAVE IT A SHOT.
by Brad Elmore
last day I'll do this on the boards, I promise, and this is the last NEW topic i'll do it on, thank you all for your patience, particularly AICN STAFF: Look, I know this is spam. But I've been coming here since before gordon had a beer and cheated on his wife, and before Kiera Knightly was a sexy tomboy beanpole. I made a film. For 10 grand. Its up for free on YOUTUBE in glorious 1080P. All I ask is that you give it a shot. I can best describe it as white trash Shakespeare. Its a grim little character drama about a heavy metal loving/guitar shredding meth dealer and his flunky cousin who inhabit a trailer in central oregon. It's called THE WOLFMAN's HAMMER. You can see the trailer here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfKochjSsus and the full film here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjLWrxRlmXE I know this is a hustle but it's an honest one. I'm 26 years old and this is my first feature film and I can guarantee that it's one of the best looking, most emotionally effective movies made for that budget. Thanks and take care, -Brad
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That whole scene where he save the kid is terrible. Why didn't he just using his web to grab him from the start? Not only was the scene terrible but the effects looked bad
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I'm just not sure about this one. And when a guy who has an entire room dedicated to Spider-Man isn't incredibly psyched for the latest big-budget Spidey flick, Sony has problems...
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So far they're hitting a lot of marks better than the Raimi films ever did. The way Spidey moves and fights, his jokes, the slender build, all LOOK better this time around. Sure the story could suck in the end, but I'd much rather dive back into the young Peter years than watch mid-30s Spidey in a Raimi sequel. The only real reason to complain at this point is the notion that they are retelling the origin, but for all we know that could be a 2 minute pre-credit sequence. I am not stupid enough to claim that this will be the film of the summer, but I think what we've seen so far justifies giving it a fair chance.
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Netflix!!!!
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Like, Jumanji bad. But I agree that the "tone" of this Peter Parker is an improvement. Still looks like a rental to me though.
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May 14, 2012, 9:28 p.m. CST
Spiderman movie symbolizes about a boy going through puberty
by ajit maholtra
His body changes and he gets stronger, and then he shoots sticky webs of goo like semmen shooting out of his pennis.
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May 14, 2012, 9:29 p.m. CST
They should call this THE AMAZING SPIDER MAN TAKES HIS MASK OFF
by Autodidact
I was thinking that this would be an improvement over Raimi's Spider-Man but even in the trailer, and apparently the very first action scene of this movie, he's gonna take his mask off every fucking chance he gets.
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This looks not bad. I think it will ultimately fail prey to Avengers and TDKR, but I too like the way he moves and like the music. Still think it's too soon, though.
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Spider-Man could be more emo or boring than before. But I was wrong. Also: KEEP THE FUCKING MASK ON!!!
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I have to agree, these aren't the most thrilling trailers, but I love Andrew Garfield with the duality of Peter Parker and Spider-man. I think he's going to kill this role, so be prepared. Also, again, remember Spider-man 3? Shut up and be thankful that after that cluster F of a jazz-infused soap opera we even have another Spider-man movie. It will be better than the last one, I assure you. No Topher Grace obviously knowing he was a bad choice for a villain. No Tobie Macguire phoning in his performance. Sometimes trailers are misleading, for example (at least in my opinion) I enjoyed John Carter of Mars very much, yet those trailers were horrendous. We live in a world where superhero films have overtaken Michael Bay's robots/explosions/chauvinism formula. Be grateful for this, friends. Welcome Spider-man back to the screen. No more complaining about minute details like a red light on his web shooters, when there are colossal storms of trash like Three Stooges and Adam Sandler's latest attempt to be relevant.
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Seriously though, it looks great. I love Marc Webb's previous comments of really trying to make it personal and through Peter's eyes, hence all the close shots and 1st person stuff.
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But I want Marvel to get their property back. I wish Garfield all the best I really do, I just want Sony out of the picture.
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Maybe you morons should judge Spider-man based on how he taunts an armed car jacker?
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Give me Spidey 4!
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That third sequel certainly ate ass, but the first two were all about the joy of being Spider-Man. This looks like they were trying to do The Dark Spider.
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May 14, 2012, 9:35 p.m. CST
What the fuck do you haters want? Cheesy Spider-man 1 and trashy Spider-man 3???
by Nerd Rage
Fuck you all. You don't deserve a noble experiment like this.
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Brood, swing, brood, swing, blah blah blah, swing some more.
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May 14, 2012, 9:40 p.m. CST
The opening scene with the kid was more emotional or powerful than anything from the Raimi trilogy
by Nerd Rage
The haters know this will be one of the better Spider-man movies but they keep denying the obvious.
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Thats right this movie will be shit, the CGI is horrible, the costume is horrible, the action scene is horrible, the emma stone/ peter parker anxt is horrible, the whole thing reeks lol, to be honest with you all I only watch up to the part of the kid putting on Spidermans mask.... that was totally stupid and not fucking real, why the fuck would you talk to the kid and give him your mask??? fuck that just dive in there and save his ass, what a waste.... give Marvel back its property you greedy bastards, fuck this movie lol.
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take your mask off, brood, swing, take your mask off. take your mask off. swing. brood, swing brood. take your mask off.
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Watch the damn movie before you dismiss it.
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Finally came to me of who Peter Parker looks like with his glasses. The more I see of the film the more I look forward to it, though its just a bridge between Prometheus and TDKR.
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What happened to his tan? In the 80s, he would've made a great Parker. Movie would look better if Spidy could keep his fucking mask on for more than 5 mins.
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With 3D Spider-man web-slinging and Lizard battles this is destined to be in the top 2 Spider-man movies.
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May 14, 2012, 9:46 p.m. CST
Is this just a standard part of the marketing campaign...or are they hearing all the negativity and carpet bombing the public?
by DoctorWho?
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fuck them and they changed the costume just to be assholes. I'll torrent this bitch and fast forward through it and they won't get a dime from me to fuck over the fans any more. I'll leave it to you guys to finance their future shit films.
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May 14, 2012, 9:46 p.m. CST
spicymag, I always thought C. Thomas Howell would have been a great 80s Spidey too.
by The Krypton Kid
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Haters will lose.
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... the focus would be on practical effects? That this would help differentiate it from the previous Spiderman? Fucking douchebag.
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getting rescued for the 4th time.
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with a Macy Gray cameo
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and rubbery CGI
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"Johnny: Doc says I busted my back. Guess I'm pretty bad off. Huh Pony Boy? Pony Boy: No, you're gonna be fine."
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ON BEING A REBOOT/ORIGIN: "wut?! nooooz! we already had that! give us something different!!!!11111one111!!" ON SNOUTLESS LIZARD/PETER'S PARENTS STORYLINE: noooozzzzz!!!!!1 giv us sumthin we already had, not sumthin difrent!
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No irony. Haters are cocksuckers. You show Peter Parker being Peter Parker... a) a smart guy who understands science shit. b) a smart ass superhero in a mask. This is what spidey is supposed to be. And these were two distinct aspects of Spiderman that were neglected in the first 3 movies. I loved the first 3, but they lacked a sense of fun. This should be a good reboot, and I'm glad it will be here.
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and forced Jesus symbolism
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You don't know how many times his mask is actually taken off. Looks like twice for me. In Spidey 2, his mask came off for the subway ride and at the end with Doc Ock. No problems here, but I love the mask gives you power line. Uncle Ben is Martin Sheen, and Aunt May is Sally Field. Come on, losers.
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with a useless Gwen Stacy appearance.
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Really tired of all the bad effects comments. The effects in this are so much better than the Raimi movies. The movement is better, the quality of the rendering is better, and the webs actually have tension! The lizard looks a bit cartoony in a couple of shots, but everything else is pretty spot on.
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with random cookie girl nonsense crammed in.
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The movie looks okay, at the very least, worth a rental. I'll probably end up checking it out at one point. Hasn't the scuttle butt about ASM been that it's rumored to suffer from a really terrible screenplay? Or so I've read...
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May 14, 2012, 9:54 p.m. CST
Saving Kid Scene Was Terrible! WTF were you guys watching?
by ChiTownsBest
First he jumps on the car and rips the window out and then just fucking stands there? Really? Everyone keeps talking about Spidey cracking jokes but does anybody notice that it's the same one scene over and over again?How many fucking times is he going to take his mask off? How the hell is that an improvement over the Raimi movies? From the previews he takes his mask off more then in all the Raimi movies combined. Fuck Sony and this shitty Spiderman movie.
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THis is really not gonna be that good....too many people trying to convince themselves it will be ...They would of done better of doing something different than changing the orgin story....wont come close to Avengers, or Dark Knight.... In fact I smell another John Carter
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It's all you go see, so they keep making and remaking this crap. FUCK all of you. You're the reason why I have to sit at home and keep playing my blu-rays over and over.
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Garfield seems to be ripping the Spidey mask off in every other clip shown. I blame Odie.
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Maybe is that scene where he tells that joke about the knives, he sounds like a complete douchebag, besides the way he interacts with Gwen looks like the best thing ever, he is supposed to be a loser even with the superpowers, not a guy that can have a hot ass every time he needs, the only real problem here, besides bein spiderman is maybe what kind of fingerless gloves would make him look more like a hipster. and WHO THE FUCKS CARES ABOUT HIS PARENTS, seriously they are constantly reminding us about this suposed origin that nobody knows to justify the reboot, give the rights back to Marvel already
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May 14, 2012, 9:55 p.m. CST
They really need better CG fire. What would it have cost to just paint that model car matte black, set it on fire in that position and superimpose the flames?
by justmyluck
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I know that nobody cares about it. that's why I'm trying to get them to, because I think if they give it a shot they will. If they hate it oh well, all it cost was an hour and a chance, but I seriously doubt anybody can hate it. I spent a long time grueling over the making of the film, and I am spreading the word at a site dedicated to people who love movies/film/film culture. I know you are snarking at me and honestly it doesn't bother me and like I said this is the last day I press the issue before I overstay my already possibly tenuous welcome. After today I won't be here to bother you. But today I am, and what I'm asking isn't really all that major. Just that you give it a look. I made it to entertain you, not to piss you off.
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Makes the movie look low rent.
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May 14, 2012, 10:01 p.m. CST
After Avengers I don't think anyone is going to be happy until Marvel has Spidy back...
by dixieflyer
The Avenger's movie has established a connected universe and Spidey will be sorely missed.
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ASM = We don't know cause we haven't seen it yet. Fuckers.
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I do like AG over Toby
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May 14, 2012, 10:02 p.m. CST
Merchandising is going to be huge on this movie. And mark my words, highschool makes up most of this stupid movie.
by happybunni
Merchandising is going to be so huge with the masks and the gloves and the shooters.. damn. They're only showing a scene of highschool in each of these trailers, but you can tell it makes up a big part of the movie. He has a fight, he gets invited to football practice, the lizard attacks his highschool (right...), he meets gwen there probably. At least 30% of the movie is in highschool, and that I have no interest in.
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Pathetic. Pathetic. Pathetic. Pathetic. Pathetic. Pathetic. Pathetic. Pathetic. Pathetic. Pathetic. Pathetic. Etc....
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http://www.buycostumes.com/The-Amazing-Spider-Man-Movie-Lizard-Muscle-Adult-Costume/802682/ProductDetail.aspx
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May 14, 2012, 10:04 p.m. CST
ironeagle74 misses the days of Wild Wild West and Armageddon
by Nerd Rage
Before the time of Avengers and Dark Knight when Hollywood cared about quality over money. lmao
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By the way the costume looks...underwhelmed...
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All we've gotten are really, really brief snippets. Compare that to how they dealt with Dock Ock, Goblin, and Sandman in the Raimi flicks. I think they're really afraid the effect is too dodgy to show in trailers or they'd push it. (It's not like it's a huge mystery who the villain will be.) Nitpick: Why would a minivan suddenly explode in flame? The lightbulb sparks and ignites...? What? I didn't see gasoline leaking down the hood from an open gas cap. Seems like they are trying way too hard to ramp up the action without giving the audience a real reason to care.
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May 14, 2012, 10:09 p.m. CST
What exactly is so horrendous about him taking off his mask in front of complete strangers?
by BlackBauer0320
Especially given the context of that scene. I mean, how can you not like the way that he uses it? It's not like he's whipping it off just to feel the wind against his face. People are so set in stone about "the way things should be" because of how they were in the comics. If it fits the narrative, how is it hurting anyone.
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May 14, 2012, 10:10 p.m. CST
The Spiderman symbolizes a boy going through puberty and the lizard symbolizes an erect pennis
by ajit maholtra
A teenage boys biggest enemy is his erect pennis because it is always getting him in trouble in public. So in this movie the solution will be for Spiderman, the boy in puberty, to beat his erect pennis, symbolized by the lizard. So basically, if you see this movie you are a gay.
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May 14, 2012, 10:10 p.m. CST
chitownsworst, that scene was better than anything from SM1 and SM3
by Nerd Rage
You know if Raimi directed it the worried father would've said "Go Spidey go" or some other stupid shit and the people on the bridge would've carried Spider-man's body like he was Jesus, telling him they'd keep his secret. Fuck the Raimi trilogy. It's an overrated bag of corn chips.
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May 14, 2012, 10:12 p.m. CST
Also - the effects are as bad as Jumanji? Really?????
by BlackBauer0320
Everything about the webswinging in this one looks better. Everything. I just do not understand how you can say otherwise. The cartoon Spidey swinging around in the Raimi movies moved so awkwardly it does not even compare. To me, the best swinging sequence to date remains the one at the end of the first movie. It was all downhill from there.
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May 14, 2012, 10:12 p.m. CST
I would go see the new Spidey movie, but I think I'll have some laundry to do that night.
by Clio
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May 14, 2012, 10:12 p.m. CST
WOW! HOW DID ALL THE HATERS SEE THE WHOLE MOVIE SO EARLY???
by Nerd Rage
Oh wait.
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and now you attack this non-stop??? What the fuck for? Did Sam Raimi promise you all cameos as flying monkeys in The Oz???
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Don't forget the braless Emma Stone. Mmmmm....
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May 14, 2012, 10:16 p.m. CST
Maybe I was high on Howard tonight, but I thought it looked awesome.
by adeceasedfan
The scene with the kid reminded me of my son and kind of got me. (Minus the bridge, the flaming car, the spider-man) There were several masked shots and enough Lizard for me, but hate if you must...I know you can't help it.
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THE HATERS ARE BLIND RAIMI DICK BLOWERS. I'D RATHER BE A PLANT!!
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Macy Gray scars that movie as much the Green Goblin costume design.
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Ok so it's not the spiderman you wanted... But let it fail on its own merit. All you guys are doing is having an opinion about something you haven't seen yet.. Have you seen the ultimate spiderman cartoon? Now that is a complete raping of the spiderman name...focus on killing that peice of crap. I don't mind reboots when they keep the main essence of the character in tact, but the Zack Morris type persona of Peter Parker just doesn't fit...not to mention what they did to venom was a complete failure... The old raimi films took liberties as well, organic webs, black haired flash Thompson, power ranger goblin, horrible jokes, mj being the main love interest before Gwen... There are a million things that annoy me about the raimi films, but there are still great moments where what you see in the comics comes to life.. If you stay tuned I'm sure there will be one moment worth waiting for... Now stop being a bunch of adolescent dickheads...
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this thread, if anything is about 40% positive/60% negative right now...and it's "full of plants?" I guess you don't leave much space for opinions other than yours?
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I guess the reason I dont like the mask removal in these movies is that, as a kid, a superhero''s identity was a secret between him (or her) and me, the reader. It was the one thing we actually shared and the thought of someone else seeing who he actually was was terrifying. Learning the hero's identity put the magic of what made the superhero super in jeopardy. Now, everybody is taking off the masks and it doesnt feel right. Pshchoanalysis, anyone? Hopefully I spelled everything right... hard to see through this mask.
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Grantes, I dont have to see the movie after this
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and no matter how much they bitch and whine on these TASM TBs, they are never going to convince me or many others that this movie will be very good. It simply looks like a lazy and shitty movie and that's all there is to it. Releasing 20 trailers for it will not change that. I am just not excited to see this at all. I liked the first 2 Raimi Spider-Man movies and the 3rd was mediocre but just because this reboot is coming out does not mean that the Raimi ones sucked. That's a stupid argument.
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I'm sorry that we don't share the same taste in yet to be released movies.
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First things first: Spider-Man 2 is one of my favorite superhero flicks ever. First one was also great. 3rd...less said, the better. I'm putting aside my wishes that they gave Raimi one more shot. Spider-Man is also the character that I relate to the most and have since I was a little kid. While Thor, Batman, Hellboy, and Green Lantern are my absolute favorites, Spiderman is the one who, as a character, has always "been there for me", I guess (sorry if I'm touching on a cliche here). He's the one that's never let me down when I needed a superhero to just make me feel like I could get through whatever I was dealing with at the time (One More Day aside). I like Andrew Garfield, Mark Webb, Emma Stone, and pretty much everyone else involved. I want to like this. I really do. I hope the finished product proves me wrong. That said... 1. I'm getting the vibe that they're gonna make Peter more of a "geek" than an actual geek. He's gonna be really into comics and movies and punk rock and whatnot. He seems too confident...although maybe they'll prove me wrong on this. He seems like less of a geek and more like a misfit. Parker is supposed to be a straight-up socially awkward science nerd that has a LOT of trouble making friends with anyone. 2. There's something very strange about the aesthetic of this....I can't put my finger on it. I'm curious to know if anyone else has noticed this, but it's very strange. Again, I can't entirely explain it, but it's almost like they've toned down the New York-ness of it. Maybe it's just the copious amount of blue, maybe not. Anyway... 3. They seem to have removed the tragic side to The Lizard. Now, I've been shying away from Raimi comparisons, but I really loved that they built Connors up slowly in those movies as far as relevance went. They made him a guy you liked. This would have made it all the more interesting when he finally became the Lizard. From the looks of this, Connors is trouble from the get-go. I'm avoiding fanboying on this as much as I can, but that is changing something fundamentally important about the character and I'm hoping I'm wrong. 4. This is moreso the marketing, but the John Carter comparisons seem apt. Now, I didn't hate John Carter, but I certainly realized after seeing it that the biggest issue with the movie was the marketing. It never seemed to find its footing. For me at least, neither has this. It feels like the marketing team probably disagrees on everything so they're just throwing all of their ideas on the tone and general direction of the campaign into one pot and mixing it up. This should change. Overall, here's my prediction: Despite my complaints, this won't suck. This will be good. Not great, good. Far from abysmal. I think this movie is going to be kind of like The Incredible Hulk. That movie was perfectly adequate and a pretty damn decent time at the theater. Unfortunately, it was sandwiched between two of the best superhero movies of recent memory. What's more, those two movies made a HUGE impact on superhero cinema as a whole. Iron Man started the Marvel cinematic universe and The Dark Knight....well, you know. I think it's going to be very strange to see this movie in between Avengers, the culmination of 4 years of movies that have been made with the intention of syncing up with each other, and TDKR, the final chapter in what is probably the most unique and bold take on any superhero franchise ever. Which kind of stinks for everyone involved in this one. Either way, I'll be there opening day, hoping for the best and preparing for the worst.
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The trailer only had 300 views when I posted the link to it here yesterday. Tonight it's over 7,000. We got a post for the 3rd time around for Carrie today. This isn't a remake. Please show it some love. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6_XMwTwVms
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Because I REALLY don't want to pay for it. It is going to fuck Spider-Man's Origin story in the ear. Plus, dubstep in the trailer? I blame GI Joe for being one of the first to incorporate that horseshit music into its trailers (followed by Red Tails I think), but I though Spider-Man would be better than that... This has so much potential. Fans FINALLY getting the lizard, a younger Spider-Man, and Gwen, but these trailers make me sick
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May 14, 2012, 10:33 p.m. CST
Nerd Rage (or should I say, Marc Webb's mother) give it up already. You're not convincing anyone with your constant shameless leafy planty shilling....
by Kai_Mah'gra
...Even Sony themselves hate this movie. They'e already shopping for new writers and a new director for the sequel ......er..... I mean, the next reboot, that shouldn't happen, but which they'll try to force through anyway. Everybody with half a brain thinks this thing looks like utter garbage. And you can just tell how desperate Sony are now by just how much they are ramping up the marketing for this thing over the last couple of weeks.You'd think that it was coming out before Prometheus and not after. Fact of the matter is that they've seen what a hit Avengers is, and they realize that by the time Spider-man comes out, all it will be is a reminder to everyone just how much worse this Marvel property is in the hands of another studio after seeing what Marvel can do with their own properties. I feel the most sorry for Garfield. Emma Stone will be fine; she still has her looks for another couple of years = possibly even a decade longer - so she's good. But Garfield's just boarded the Brandon Routh Express train leaving the "Up-and-coming-Hollywood talent" trainstation heading very fast for the "Could-have-been" Terminal stop.
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And you call yourselves comic book fans. It's a fucking Spider-Man movie! Stop being pretentious man-children and enjoy it for what it is: A FUCKING SPIDER-MAN MOVIE.
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So make Spider-man a humorless bore who fights power ranger villains and shoots organic arm jizz and you people go crazy for it. Add wisecracks, an intimidating villain and synthetic webbing proving how Spider-man needs Parker's nerdiness and you people cry bloody murder. Please choke on Raimi's pencil dick, you clueless saps.
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Sorry, to add to what I said above, that's what it is. Spidey is the superhero that, to me at least, embodies New York. The Raimi movies harnessed that and channeled it perfectly. It's a really important aspect of the character and it seems VERY toned down in this one.
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it is a very clean, very crisp image. especially the suit.
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looks more interesting than this spidey trailer. Just sayin'.
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What's your credible source Variety? Hollywood Deadline? Oh that's right, you're talking out of you ass.
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...with the dislike of Spider-Man 1? I know it's cheesy, but I vastly prefer it to Spider-Man 2, which has some good scenes, but gets really freaking boring in places.
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May 14, 2012, 10:40 p.m. CST
nerd rage has made me lose all interest in seening this movie
by dixieflyer
I thought I wanted to see this movie but nerd rage bringing up all the crap in the Raimi movies makes me lose all interest in seeing Spiderman on the big screen again.....Spidey needs to stay where he belongs....on Broadway.
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They keep showing off more and more footage. That makes absolutely no sense.
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if you don't count Avengers, Prometheus, or TDKR. Sony marketing BS meter is off the charts.
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Um, for what it's worth, the Free Comic Book Day Ultimate Spidey was the first comic I ever remember reading. I got it when I was 10 I still have it 11 years later and I still credit it as being the spark that got me into comics. I'm now pursuing a career in the industry. So....maybe I'm the exception to the rule, but....
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May 14, 2012, 10:41 p.m. CST
I think a lot of us so-called "haters" are keen on a new Spidey movie...
by DoctorWho?
I was stoked when this initially hit my radar. How many of you were? Now, here we are and I'm just kind of scratching my head wondering about some of the choices. Choices that simply lessen my interest. It happens.<p> Factor in reaction after Avengers hit our eyeballs. For MOST of us... the bar has officially been raised! You'd better 'bring it'. Avengers succeeded by catching the 'spirit' of the source material...not tinkering with and re-tooling minutiae in the origin story.<p> I would sum it up as "Please, don't suck."
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The Saturday Morning cartoons were more respectful.
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Well said. Like I said. Hoping for the best, preparing for the worst.
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Ah, no! Sorry, but I've heard more speculative word on this film than anticipation for it. Even with The Avengers out of the way, we've still got Prometheus, The Dark Knight Rises, and The Expendables 2. I'm sure G.I. Joe: Retaliation has more momentum behind it than the Amazing Spider-Man. Don't get me wrong, I've been all for this film from the start, but even I feel like this is could go either way with its commercial or critical success. And for crying out loud, are we ever going to get a Spider-Man film with some really GOOD CGI? This still looks like second rate effects. I mean, damn near all of it looks that unimpressive. I had hoped that what I saw in the regular trailer could be improved upon within the next two months, but after seeing thsi extended menagrie of effects clips, I think this is the quality we're getting come July 3rd.
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May 14, 2012, 10:45 p.m. CST
Andrew Garfield and Brandon Routh could not be on more opposite sides of the charisma spectrum
by BlackBauer0320
Also, I sport at least 3/4 of a brain and am still looking forward to this version of Spidey, despite the fact that I: a) Liked the Raimi films (1 and especially 2) b) Read many of the comics c) Am not a plant I guess that makes me a moron? Or just open-minded, non-cynical, and willing to reserve judgment. Either one!
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May 14, 2012, 10:45 p.m. CST
Looking forward to it. Looks better than Raimi's turdfests.
by Mr. Waturi
There is obviously a major action scene where Spiderman is chased by the cops that looks like it could kick ass. I much prefer this cast to Raimi's films (which were dorky and boring) but I agree they should leave the mask on always.
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OK, I do like uber-smartass Spidey, but.... WTF is this whole made up bullshit about his parents. On the bright side, it can't be a tenth as shitty as SM3.
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May 14, 2012, 10:46 p.m. CST
Sony pays it's plants.....er.... I mean, interns really well....
by Kai_Mah'gra
....especially if Nerd Rage is anything to go by. Either that or someone at Sony has some really compromising photos of him.
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...and I bought every issue after that. It did what it was supposed to for me. Again, maybe I'm the exception to the rule.
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May 14, 2012, 10:46 p.m. CST
Yeah and that's the other thing and the proverbial elephant in the room
by Russell
The Avengers was so fantastic that expecting people to get excited for this claptrap is kinda ridiculous. The Avengers has certainly raised the bar to unreachable heights for the time being and even Spider-Man won't be able to touch it.
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The 3D better be fantastic if they want to match the other Spidey movies box office, because the movie itself will suck huge scaly Lizard balls.
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People are really coming up with all kinds of shit to throw hoping something will stick. I guess you gave up on the Green Lantern comparisons since people realized that movie had more in common with Raimi's approach.
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I don't think even Sony believes this is the most anticipated movie of the summer (that honor has already gone to The Avengers, The Dark Knight Rises and, to a somewhat lesser extent, Prometheus) but marketing has a job to do. It may very well receive positive reviews but it also has the potential to be an also-ran for the summer, with endless comparisons to "The Avengers", "The Dark Knight Rises" and even the first two Raimi Spider-Man movies. If it lacks the quality of "The Dark Knight Rises" or the fun and energy of "The Avengers" there may not be enough there to pack theaters. Not a hater but the anticipation of "The Avengers" had been building for years and fans were ready for a follow-up to "The Dark Knight" as soon as they left the theater but rebooting the Spider-Man franchise never generated a great deal of excitement (and those leaked spy photos from early in the production did a fair amount of damage) Where there isn't outright hostility toward this movie there is a great deal of apathy, not just on AICN but other websites as well. Sony is well aware of this and knows that they have their work cut out for them.
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or maybe everyone didn't drink the Raimi kool aid and anticipate a less self-aware and less kiddie approach to Spider-man.
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May 14, 2012, 10:53 p.m. CST
buckethead - you create a tentpole by appealing to the masses, not the hardcore geeks
by BlackBauer0320
The masses could care less about the changes that most of the geeks on here get up in arms about and thus pre-judge the movie for. The only thing they're going to be wondering is why a new one with new actors is coming out. But if it's good enough and word of mouth is solid, they'll get over that quickly. Kind of like how the masses all love Mark Ruffalo's Hulk now, despite being confused by the lack of continuity.
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Why you mad tho'?
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And when you push them on everyone, it becomes less valid. I will probably prefer the first Raimi movie, but I will go see this with an open mind. I grew up with Spider-Man, but Batman will always be my favorite. Even so, I want this movie to be good.
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What's not to like? Web-slinging (with mechanical shooters no less); Rescuing kiddies in peril; Vertigo-inducing first person shots... Based on the trailer there is enough here to enjoy (although I am no fan of the redesigned hi-tech material costume or the number of shots sans-mask). Just wonder if they can carry off the third act.
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I've always loathed reality TV of any ilk, just him being a judge on there, you couldn't pay me to start watching it now. In fact I was incredibly disappointed when I first heard he signed on to doing it, it seems like such a lame move.
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May 14, 2012, 10:57 p.m. CST
The Raimi fanboys started the hate-train and all the gullible lemmings jumped on
by Nerd Rage
All because you didn't get your precious Spider-man 3.5 with the Vulturess. You people don't deserve to call yourselves Spider-man fans.
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May 14, 2012, 10:58 p.m. CST
He takes off the mask because he can't breath through
by Bedknobs and Boomsticks
cheap basketball rubber. And I say cheap because aren't good ones made of leather? Basketballs, that is?
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Did not mean the "New Yorkers, we stick up for our kind, fugedaboutit!" thing. I mean there was a very prominent New York aesthetic. Bottom line, these trailers don't seem to depict a movie that takes place in New York, not to me at least. Which is weird, because they fucking shot it there.
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Reboot supporters will get the last laugh when ASM crosses 850 m worldwide and gets a higher combined user and critic rating than at least 2 Raimi movies.
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May 14, 2012, 11:03 p.m. CST
Hey nerd rage, I drink Raimi Kool-Aid! It comes from shotgun holes in the walls.
by adeceasedfan
In spite of that I think this new Spidey is looking pretty good.
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Yes I did see Avengers and thoroughly enjoyed it. I get what you're saying. That it was successful because it catered to both the hardcore geeks and the mainstream. I'm not going to argue that point. But plenty of people had their doubts going into that movie, did they not? About changes being made to the characters? And frankly, are you suggesting that if it had millions, but displeased the fanboys, it would not be considered a tentpole? That's the part that doesn't ring true to me. Another more recent example would be Star Trek. The movie certainly took some liberties and pissed off a whole lot of fanboys (see: asimovlives) but is certainly still considered a tentpole because of its mainstream success, no? Regardless, my overall point is that you can't even finish this conversation until the movie comes out in its entirety.
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But now everyone is pretending like it was a sure thing. ASM won't make as much money or get universal praise but it will do better than most superhero movies in those departments. Alot better. Haters will lose.
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May 14, 2012, 11:10 p.m. CST
THE SONY MANDATE: "The Spider-Guy's gotta fight with his mask at least half off in the climax."
by MARCEL_THE_NEGRO_PROJECTIONIST
Serious as a heart attack, folks. That was the condition for the green light about a dozen or so years ago. Those idiots at Sony just couldn't see casting an A list lead only to have his face covered by a webbed, red and black mask. In fact, one of the reasons Spider-Man, even with James Cameron involved, languished in Devo Hell for so long was the studio just couldn't see making a movie about a superhero who couldn't show the emotions roiling beneath the surface as he fought to save the girl in the climax. When Raimi offered up the compromise of Peter having his mask either ripped off or half blown off in the climactic fight of each movie, it was a go. Which is why in the first one, his mask is half blown off by the Goblin's razor bats, in part 2, he loses his mask both while stopping the runaway train near the end, and in Doc Ock's lair as he's holding up tons of steel lest it crush MJ and at the climax of pt 3 as he has his final match with Venom. And I'll make a million dollar bet he'll fight with half his mask clawed off at the end of Amazing.
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...or this will be one very complex film.
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At the end of the day--who the fuck cares? You cunts will never accept this film even if it is a hit. And it probably will be. Has the potential to be Avengers 2.0 and continue what made Raimi's Spidey's films box office juggernauts. Spider-Man is KNOWN by the non fanboy audience and even though a reboot, audiences are going to show up and fill the seats. Get over it already.
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The first two movies, ESPECIALLY the second (and I will admit that this may just be me) is up there with something like When Harry Met Sally where you just FEEL the city when you watch it. It's achieved by balancing out the big city settings like the Empire State and 5th Avenue with the back streets of the East Village and whatnot. I really would love to see that in 3D (cheaper than a bus ticket, if anything) but I'm getting the vibe that we won't be getting that.
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...because Burton's story was gospel...and the only good Bruce Wayne was Michael Keeton. Thankfully, people now forget about that film.
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All I've seen in these trailers is horrific CG and constant unmasking.
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May 14, 2012, 11:15 p.m. CST
That 4 mins was boss! Loved how Petey swing into the scene.
by HollywoodHellraiser
Plus it made sense why he took off his mask. He was trying to calm a child down and even let him wear it. What little kid wouldn't want to wear something of a superhero? Plus we get a real gauge of Spidey strength and some of his abilities.
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May 14, 2012, 11:16 p.m. CST
Those are without a doubt some of the worst CGI effects I've seen in a long time..
by Linguo_IS_Dead
Was any part of this movie filmed on location, or was the entire NYC greenscreened??? YIKES! Any what's with the bright glowing car lights and cityscape???
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May 14, 2012, 11:17 p.m. CST
BTW, you guys realize AICN nerds don't count for box office take?
by HollywoodHellraiser
In other words, most of the movie going public don't visit this site or the other sites. So basically saying stuff about the mask and its gonna suck means nothing.
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May 14, 2012, 11:17 p.m. CST
Nerd Rage should be like our official resident Plant Mascot...
by Kai_Mah'gra
He's just soooo good at it. We could have him waxing lyrical and spouting endless streams of bullshit hosannas about unreleased movies that reek of pure and utter FAIL and crapfests coming down the line.
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May 14, 2012, 11:18 p.m. CST
Computer dude doing "Amazing" stuff.... fucking over it already. Do they ever stop to think less is more for trailers?
by clarntoon
I was on the fence, now I'm keeping my money.
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You can clearly see a lot of what they showed were practical swinging effects rather than full mo-cap CGI. This weak-ass argument is old and downright stupid. The haters constantly state "Looks like shite!" but can never say why, other than "they were lazy"? What are you, 7? I also have to love the people who apparently have "inside" info about the movie, and that Sony hates it, and all sorts of other speculation, without even a shred of proof to back up their statement. Yeah, like we can't tell your pulling stuff out of your own ass just to bash the movie. Spider-Man movies practically print their own $$. Even the shit fest that was S-M3 made money. This movie will clean up at the box office, and I will be more than happy to come here daily, and bust all you haters balls about it.
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May 14, 2012, 11:19 p.m. CST
If you want to see a good movie, watch Andaz Andaz Apna
by ajit maholtra
It stars the heroic Salman Khan, the charismatic Aamir Khan, and the beautiful Raveena Tandon. This is what movies were meant to be. Watch this scene from this great movie: <p> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLBsS1V3aWs
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Must of really hated Raimi's Spider-man 1 for the rubbery, obvious CGI.
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Though not the only one (costumes, Iron Man vs. Cap as leader, etc.) Also - your definition of plant includes "if anyone challenges this view, they are instructed to attack and belittle," which you also seem to be doing, just on the opposite side of the opinion. But anywho, I did take a gander at Gaiman's superhero theory. It makes for a good read, but I'm not necessarily sure it's applicable to the Spidey film. I say that only because he seems to think as long as the movie has the character's BASIC elements (not necessarily the specific ones like tweaks to the costume, changes in the way the villain looks, etc.) it will be successful. His example - they could make a "good" Batman film in which he was wearing pink and engaging in all sorts of shenanigans, it just wouldn't really be a Batman movie. A Batman movie must have the mask, and crime-fighting, and evil villains. I guess what I'm arguing is that this Spider-Man still has its "basic" elements. In his case: webswinging, girl problems, crimefighting, etc.
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May 14, 2012, 11:23 p.m. CST
re: Alot of people were on the fence about the Avengers
by HollywoodHellraiser
I remember that. If anyone check the old threads you will see fanboys calling Joss a bad director this and bad director that. And those were my words and alot cleaner. Plus you would see the fanboys saying how it wouldn't make money and Joss would fuck it up! Now look at the praises it gets here. As soon as it made money all of a sudden those same fanboys is acting like they been in The Avengers corner since the beginning. What a joke! Look at the old posts and you'll that was a lie. All that means is this site and it delusional fanboys don't know jack and can't predict a movie win or failure!
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May 14, 2012, 11:24 p.m. CST
Kai at least I don't have my head PLANTED in Sam Raimi's ass!
by Nerd Rage
Get it? PLANTed.
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Apparently not, especially with those daytime scenes in 1 and 2 that were clearly shot in studio against green screen. Or those flying scenes in 1 that were full CGI with herky-jerk Spider Man. Or that train battle withe Doc Ock that was full CGI and looked like something from an Xbox game? Yeah, right. Keep trying.
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I am very romantic, and ladies are always hitting me with their danda sticks.
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Waste of money, time, and effort...
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There are no CGI effects, and it is an A1 number one film. It is really wonderful. Watch it on youtube and see.
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I'm not as excited for it as the Avengers but I love that they're bringing back the smart ass Spidey from the comics. That was missing from the Raimi films.
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May 14, 2012, 11:35 p.m. CST
I thought that intro kid was going to be Uncle Ben dying...
by Terminocity
because of all the retconning that is rumored.
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Yeah I saw that once when I was a kid...the latent homoeroticism and excellent use of miniatures is what got me into filmmaking...I'm Christopher Nolan.
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That shit was so corny and self-aware it's almost a mockery of comic books. At least The Avengers doesn't wink at the camera every 5 seconds and scream "Aren't comics stupid!!!". If you were 7 when you saw the Sam Raimi trilogy I can understand the love. It's like watching The Muppets with Spider-man swinging around. But if your above 16 and you think those are great movies then you shouldn't be discussing movies with the grown ups. There's probably a "discussion" about Dora at Nick Jr that's more your speed.
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I am ajit. From where are you?
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But until then, I keep rubbing and rubbing.
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I expect I will really enjoy this as well.
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Are he and Tim Burton morphing into the same person? They are now dressing alike, wearing their hair in similar ways, wearing dark sunglasses and wearing scarves. Creepy + Creepy = Too Creepy.
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The whole bridge scene just looks like crap. There's a reason the only love shown here is by the same guy *caugh nerd-rage caugh* over and over and over again. People complained about the Goblin suit in Raimis movies being too power ranger-ish, but at least they were real. Those characters were truly on screen in front of us. The Lizard is pure CG, and it looks it. Sandman & Venom were all CG too, and remember how that movie turned out? I will never hope for a comic book movie to fail. But none of the trailers have been inspiring at all. Changed origin, bad CG, twilight hair, taking off his mask during every battle apparently...
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This is looking lamer and lamer. I agree with posters above i hope it bombs and marvel can get the rights back lol. Secret Wars, Infinity Gauntlet, etc, fuck ya.
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..and it was about 90% CGI and lame Bollywood pop music.
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May 15, 2012, 12:19 a.m. CST
At least it looks interestingly shot and composited, unlike that other superhero movie coming out
by MooseMalloy
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Guess all the haters here let their opinions be known.
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ok first off, why the hell did he need to take off his mask when saving the kid, i mean i understand that he wanted to make the kid feel safe and all, but that was just unnecessary. the next issue is why the lizard, he wouldn't exactly been my first choice regardless that his character was introduced in the original trilogy yet was never involved. There are other villains that would probably be a better choice than Lizard. and my main reason i feel negatively towards this movie is the story itself. From my understanding what sony is trying to imply is that Peter became Spiderman because he wanted to know that truth about his parents when that's 200% wrong, he became spiderman due to the guilt he felt for not stopping the guy who eventually killed his uncle. Sony obviously don't understand that some things shouldn't be altered AT ALL! for example the suit(nothing wrong with the original), background story, character designs...the Lizard looks a tad bit weird but it wasn't as bad as New Goblin(whatever the hell that is), and Venom....they COMPLETELY screwed up Venom so bad it wasn't even funny. one of the most badass villains and they raped him entirely(and no Ky either) the only time they got it right is with SM1, it was simple and had some good story telling, then SM2 in my opinion was a bit boring at some points, and then SM3(the abomination) I will see this movie but I'll be so critical of this movie That i'll make epert and Ropert (if i spelled the names right) look like amateurs.
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The 2002 film has better quality CGI. Really, this is some of the worst I've seen in a mainstream film. Otherwise it looks like about what you'd expect, neither great nor terrible. But this is practically 90s quality CGI.
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I'm sold. Looks better than Spiderman 1 and 3!
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just because teh studios decided to reboot so soon after the last run, it does not automatically make this movie bad. it looks good. the shots, the acting, the casting, the color tones. and so what if they want to fuck around with the mythos a bit? comic book history, comic book cannon, is constantly rewritten and given new life in the comics, and the movies cant' do the same? fuck you dipshits who tear everything down before it even comes out. this movie looks solid. if they want to play with the "history" of spider so be it. he's still spider man. the hero remains, it's the interpretation that is rewritten. Garfield is a great parker. gwen stacy is way better than mary jane. he has webshooters, not a gizz coming out of a spider penis hole in his wrists. damn. be positive. glass half full. if it comes out and it sucks. complain then, until then, be optimistic.
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I've been privy to the most underwhelming arguments in opposition of this movie, and I must admit, I'm not impressed with the "bullet points" used against it. It's good to see some people who still keep thier minds open. See ya in the theater.
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May 15, 2012, 12:35 a.m. CST
This actually lowers my interest in the film compared to the previous trailer.
by kevred
What was interesting in the last trailer isn't so interesting on further inspection. And the new stuff here isn't interesting, either. Fact #1: This will make some money. Fact #2: It has far less name power - that is, eye-grabbing recognition power - than previous Spidey films, and regular people on the street are asking why this was even made. Fact #3: It's opening just a week and a half after the next Pixar film, 4 days after GI Joe, one week before another major kid/family film (Ice Age) and two weeks before TDKR. Not the best formula for grabbing or holding the spotlight. Free Spidey! Send him back to Marvel!
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Word, dude.
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Hello? Over half a decade! How long are they supposed to wait between reboots? Is there a set period of time? What? There was about the same gap between the release of Batman & Robin & Nolan beginning work on Batman Begins in 2003 for a 2005 release. So what's the big deal?
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If that's the best you've got buckehead50, well, keep trying bro. You'll eventually get there.
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Tweens love Beiber. They even like his music. It's not aimed at my demographic, so I really don't care about it. So, yeah, I'm sure he's got lots of likes. What was your point again..? Right. There wasn't one.
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THe folks that love Justin Bieber and love the Twilight movies will flock to this....Everyone else will see it for what it is....poor imitation...when the dust settles everyone will agree this will be as good as maybe Fantastic Four...LOL. Ill catch the DVD.....
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May 15, 2012, 12:57 a.m. CST
It looks like Parker appears maskless in this more than Raimi's 3 films combined.
by American Mythos
Taking off his mask and giving it to the little boy? C'mon. And Garfield's appearance/emo moping just screams "Look, I'm Edward the Vampire... I mean the Spider!" This movie is appealing to the wrong demographic to be to my liking. I hope it's not too late for Spider-Man 4 and a Dylan Baker Lizard.
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May 15, 2012, 12:59 a.m. CST
Believe it or not it has a real HELLBOY movie look to it, like with the lighting and coloring
by MooseMalloy
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If you take all the bad comments the trolls are making about this movie and apply them to the Twilight movies, they actually fit great. Let's see... "Looks like shite!" Yep. "Worst CGI ever" You got that right. "Lazy film making!" Wow! You people certainly know how to properly trash the Twilight movies. I've only been able to watch the Twilight movies with the Rifftrax commentary going. Otherwise it's just soooo painful.
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Bring it on, Webb. This shit looks weird, darker & different, and I can't wait to see what happens.
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Are Justin Bieber fans is even more lazy and dumb. Advice to haters, work on your nit-picks. None of your flung shit is getting traction anywhere.
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Am I making you mad bro? Chill out, it's just a movie discussion. I'm just pointing out the absurdness of haters. No need to get all emo on me.
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The CGI flames suck, the whole car scene should be in your face and it sinks. The boy wearing the mask ruins the Spiderman mystique (and the costume) right from the start. Garfield high-pitch voice and teenage jokes are not funny. Webb hacked every known shooting angle (how many times have we seen the umbrella shot?) -The secrets will be revealed-? What the fuck, are they trying to rape the origins and think that people will just forget Marvel Spiderman's basics? Mechanical webs? Just rubb it in with a close-up to see if you lose more audience.. No matter how many trailers, images, scoops and scenes of this are thrown out , it ain't working.
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WHere is there ever a ref to SPiderman's voice and it changing in any of the film, tv and comic history? Spiderman doesn't do that and why should he? The whole point of the costume is to hide his identity without the need for silly voices.
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I can't even believe you jaded, pathetic little assholes that are mad about the details. Don't go see it, then. I'd rather have the theater to myself than listen to you idiots huff and moan about it the whole time.
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May 15, 2012, 1:22 a.m. CST
Any audience who abandons ASM because of mechanical webshooters
by Nerd Rage
Is who clueless moron who thinks organic arm jizz is a desirable trait.
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to signal some kind of monster is approaching is like watching a stock footage film festival in 2012. Is that scene in every movie? Does it impress anyone? If this movie turns out to be good then the marketing people should be fired.
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May 15, 2012, 1:23 a.m. CST
buckethead50, p.s. Spiderman is a pimply faced geek
by Talkbacker with no name
That's the point!
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They're just making it more interesting. The spider bite will still be a catalyst for superpowers and Uncle Ben's death will still inspire Spider-man. Settle down Beavis.
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May 15, 2012, 1:27 a.m. CST
Oh sorry buckethea50. Didn't know the pretty crappy 67 cartoon was the spiderman bible
by Talkbacker with no name
I just assumed Stan Lee and Steve Ditko created the character as a pimply faced geek, so the demographic could relate to him more. I didn't know he should be more like fucking Batman. Don't talk such shit!
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Raimi's Spider-man was fucking humorless and some people think his movies were just like the comics. Go figure.
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Seeing the movie in 3D on IMAX was a completely different experience - it looked amazing. Maybe the same will apply here? I find that movies that are shot in 3D tend to look a little weird in low-def internet trailers. Not that this thing is looking too hot right about now. But, give it a chance. I'll watch it online or something, but I rather doubt I'd pay to see it. It takes a mighty movie to get me into theaters with tickets and food/drinks costing what they do. Avengers and Dark Knight Rises will be it for me this year.
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If it flops so another reboot can happen, I personally think it looks great thou!
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May 15, 2012, 1:45 a.m. CST
buckethead50 haha have you even read any of the comics or just watch the shitty 60's cartoon?
by Talkbacker with no name
You didn't prove me worng in the least. You said cause it was in the 60's cartoon then that's how it should be. You know nothing of spiderman if that's the case. Little punk? haha I was watching the cartoon in the early 70's and even though I was too young to be aware of how shit it was then, it was not a patch on the Stan Lee and Steve Ditko version. It was cheap, lazy and relied upon re-used stock animation on a weekly basis. A quick google reveals that Marvel didn't over see shit! They sold the rights to Grantray-Lawrence, who went bankrupt. It was then given to Krantz Films under Ralph Bakshi, with no budget and the show got even worse. Theme tune was the best thing about it. What voice did you give him in your head while reading the comics (if you ever did. doesn't sound like you know what the fuck you are talking about?), Arnie? haha goof
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buckethead50 thinks Stan Lee has died and made him the king of Spider-man
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anybody who finishes a film has street cred in my book Spidey is not the most anticipated movie of the summer, bleck This will be crap, even if it's not half bad it will still be crap, bleck The original alley scene in the rain is untoppable, Sony deserves every penny it loses, bleck bleck
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stop posting so goddamn much, your either really lonely or really obsessive, if you love garfield so much just go and rape him... homo.
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The Avengers was great fun. I cannot fucking WAIT for Prometheus and Dark Knight Rises. Fuck, even Total Recall has my attention. This doesn't change the fact that the CGI effects in this are beyond terrible. This doesn't change the fact that the action scenes seem poorly staged and shot. Also, why is Spidey 1 now suddenly crap? It was far from a brilliant film but it was fun for what it was, it's a film that helped define its time for blockbuster filmmaking, and it certainly was no worse than how this looks.
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May 15, 2012, 2:02 a.m. CST
The backgrounds are done in a way we have not yet seen --
by MooseMalloy
-- I'm kinda tripping out on this "Super Preview" right now.
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Not that I advocate LSD usage, but do what you want. ASM is starting to really intrigue me.
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Just fine and it definitely hits a few notes far Better than the Raimi films did, haters be hatein.
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May 15, 2012, 2:14 a.m. CST
So many plants (see above posts) this feels like the Amazon forest.
by Franck
Super Green.
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Being such a fan of this character since the 70's when I got into Spider-Man - I have to say the design and look of this LIZARD is a major let down. His face just looks like crap. Bummer :(
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It's not even the most anticipated superhero movie of the summer.
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I'll be at this movie opening night watching Spidey evade police and fight the Lizard in 3D with his trusty webshooters. Fuck faces.
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The reason you think the kid wearing the mask is stupid is YOU are stupid. You are a DUMBASS. Go jump from a building with your cape.
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that's what you haters really are. Never got laid once ever by someone of the opposite sex.
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just because teh studios decided to reboot so soon after the last run, it does not automatically make this movie bad. it looks good. the shots, the acting, the casting, the color tones. and so what if they want to fuck around with the mythos a bit? comic book history, comic book cannon, is constantly rewritten and given new life in the comics, and the movies cant' do the same? fuck you dipshits who tear everything down before it even comes out. this movie looks solid. if they want to play with the "history" of spider so be it. he's still spider man. the hero remains, it's the interpretation that is rewritten. Garfield is a great parker. gwen stacy is way better than mary jane. he has webshooters, not a gizz coming out of a spider penis hole in his wrists. damn. be positive. glass half full. if it comes out and it sucks. complain then, until then, be optimistic.
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May 15, 2012, 2:28 a.m. CST
I think I've been pretty fair to this film so far...
by theblackvegtable
But that looks terrible like a cheap toy commercial
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Good: Andrew Garfield, Emma Stone, new spidey suit and Spidey movements Bad: Lizard as the villian, Dennis Leary and the rest of the cast Ugly: Lizard CGI, most of the other CGI (car on fire on the bridge looked completely fake)
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May 15, 2012, 2:28 a.m. CST
How much goo from you wrists you homos can puke out to Tobey Maguire pics?
by theplant
Jerkoffs
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CLUELESS PIECE OF SAD SACKS WHO HAVE NEVER READ A DITKO SPIDER-MAN EVER, NEITHER GOT LAID BY A MEMBER OF THE OPPOSITE SEX
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you both should get married and watch this movie to gether in your honeymoon. fearies.
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I figured since everyone who supports this movie must be plant we'd be getting paid but Sony still hasn't paid me shit! Oh well, they fired that clown Sam Raimi and are working on a proper Death of Gwen Stacy story arc with wisecracks and webshooters is reward enough! Thank you, Sony!
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It just is. They are just making shit up to make it edgy. I thought it was Spider-man Ultimate... But it looks like they are just picking pieces from multiple comics and then doing whatever they can to sell this to the Twilight crowd. The defenders of this are obviously either tweens or I don't know idiots? The tweens should defend the movies made for them. Stand up and defend Twilight and this. It's now confirmed they just fucked up the Lizard. So what is the point?
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They moan about a CG Hulk but he's amazing compared to that 'abomination' (see what I did there). Seriously, its so cgi its awful, I think I played that character in one of my 360 games! As for the rest of it, I have a horrible feeling I'm going to find it bland and I detest this bastardising of Peters origin as if he's been an experiment. It all feels way too strange, its like about some new hero with the words Spider-Man tacked on. AS said by others, the fx look so so, the car fire was bad, the falling tower at the end look like a model, it felt 'lite' if you get my drift. I so want this film to prove me wrong and I hope it does but at the moment Spidey looks mediocre at best.
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You pick a user name like mmmm_boobs.
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Am I the only one that liked the first movie better than the second? I had serious problems with #1 Doc Ock dying and #2 giving him redemption. Doctor Octopus is supposed to be a batshit crazy ambitious insane mad scientist, and the guy that always comes back and rounds up more villains with him. Not some sad person that turns good at the last minute. I liked the green goblin via Willem Dafoe much better.
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I guess your hoping if you say it enough times people will believe it. It reminds me of people saying Avengers looked like a tv show. Totally baseless and hopelessly wrong.
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Not great. 'Nuff Said.
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May 15, 2012, 3:03 a.m. CST
If you think this looks bad you've clearly never read a Spider-Man comic
by Lone Fox
The characterisation (not to mention the LOOK) of Peter Parker is spot-on. Raimi's films were nothing like Spider-Man. They were okay (though horribly dated already) but casting, costume design, tone... all wrong. And all the 'emo' 'Twilight' criticism is retarded. You seriously ought to read more.
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There's gonna be people hurling in the aisles!
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In the comics Peter Parker had blue eyes, was short and stocky like Tom Cruise and always had a dopey yet bored look on his face like a lobotomized Spongebob Squarepants. and Spider-man was humorless too.
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May 15, 2012, 3:25 a.m. CST
It's all realative fellas. My expectations for this are low, therefore it looks to be decent. If my expectations were high, it would look to be pretty bad.
by thatswhatshesaid
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May 15, 2012, 3:27 a.m. CST
It's a lot more CGI'd to the eyeballs than I thought it was meant to be
by melonman
Filled with too many of the too-slick-for-their-own-boots type shots (a la VAN HELSING) that killed SPIDEY 3. Still have great faith in the trio of GARFIELD, STONE and WEBB though to make this entertaining enough.
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May 15, 2012, 3:32 a.m. CST
Twilight movies: Sparkly Vampires and CGI Werewolves. Amazing Spider Man: Teen becomes web swinging Super Hero.
by Bob
Yes. Those two movies sound exactly alike, and should appeal to fans of Twilight movies and Tweens. I guess you really are 7, and your mom never let you buy comics, if that is what you actually think man. Because i don't know what else it could be.
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Look here http://www.youtube.com/user/OTSOG2012 No repeats, sequels, reboots, prequels, it has a carefully considered screenplay and all made outside of the studio. If you like it please spread the link! Melissa
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Fuck Sony and their bullshit millennial reboot!
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.. by those people who didn't know that Prometheus or Dark Knight Rises were coming, or who were perhaps anticipating "FOOTLOOSE 2: LINE HARDER" just not as much as this. Broken headlights can cause cars to burst into flames ? Oh well, at least we can rest easy safe in the knowledge that gritty realism is NOT the order of the day in this new take on Spidey. Sadly goofball comic strip fun doesn't seem much in evidence either. Epic fail. I never thought I'd say it, but come back Sam Raimi - all may not be forgiven but hell, life aint perfect.
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All you Tobey fanboys need to shut the fuck up.
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Awesome.
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May 15, 2012, 3:53 a.m. CST
"I hate this, I hate that. Blah blah blah!" Seriously, guys. How long since you've been laid?
by jawsfan
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The Riami movies were thrilling, mainly bc "Holy shit, webslinging!". But this is post Avengers, you can't get away with adapting a character, without adapting his personality. Tobey was great as a pre-spiderbite Peter Parker. But after the bite, he should be a funny, energetic motherfucker, who the comic panels can barely contain. Asshole sleepwalked through three movies, and the characters wouldn't stop crying! I could not believe the clumsy shit we were okay with, because of the goodwill Riami gathered with the Evil Dead movies and for not being even more unfaithful to the source material. This looks crazy fun and a different enough approach to make it worthwile. I always hated, how random people who knew each other, just happened to get random superpowers. (How hard it would've been to connect Dafoe Osborn's experiments to that goddamn Spider?). This seems a lot more grounded in the real world, which is cool. That's where the real Peter Parker lives.
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Which is why I hated the Raimi movies. But everything I've seen so far from ASM look like huge steps forward. I've been waiting my whole life for a quality Spider-man movie and this looks much closer to the target than the miscast, self-aware, bubblegum Raimi nonsense.
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I watched Spider-man 1 and 2 hoping for something special and was disappointed both times... But that's what a real Spider-man fan does, you watch the latest Spider-man movie hoping to like it. You asswipes who are more loyal to a sell out director than the character Spider-man make me sick. You don't deserve a brave experiment like this. Go watch Green Lantern, Fantastic Four and other paint-by-number superhero movies.
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May 15, 2012, 4:17 a.m. CST
This "Spider-Man" cartoon looks good. Brad M Elmore's Thor sequel looks good too.
by Ray_Tango
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And climbing to Parker for survival touching, you have no soul... And this movie doesn't apply to you.
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... this four minutes look pretty good... feels a lot more interesting than the Raimi efforts... whats with all the hate? I love how we're now in a golden age of nerd properties making it to the big screen and yet all the haters bitch and moan. Idiots.
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May 15, 2012, 4:39 a.m. CST
whoa what is the technology they used to film this? it looks good
by HASBEER_WILLCHEET
it looks very crisp and clear, and the movements of spiderman look very fluid and he actually looks a bit more realistic. the movie itself...meh
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May 15, 2012, 4:40 a.m. CST
oh and the trailer music is fucking awful and rhys ifans looks to be
by HASBEER_WILLCHEET
phoning it in.
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May 15, 2012, 4:40 a.m. CST
also, taking his fucking mask off again and another standoff on a bridge
by HASBEER_WILLCHEET
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May 15, 2012, 4:42 a.m. CST
So the car falls and he shoots a web to catch the kid by his sweater
by Adz
How does the sweater support his weight - would he not just fall out of it?! And would he not break his legs and face on the window frame as the car falls? Maybe I'm just nitpicking...still don't see the point of this film after just 10 years though.
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The bit where Lizard rips the car seat looks wrong. Alright I'm done bitching now, I'll wait for the reviews to come out.
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May 15, 2012, 4:48 a.m. CST
Finally they make a Spider-man movie for young adults rather than 8 year olds
by Nerd Rage
And some bitches can't even appreciate it.
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May 15, 2012, 4:48 a.m. CST
Avatar looked like it had shitty CGI in all the trailers...
by invincible88
And it was filmed using the same methods as thos movie on the same cameras. I'm going to wait til I see it in the theater as it was supposed to be seen before I make any judgments.
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May 15, 2012, 4:52 a.m. CST
Peter Parker's hair isn't messy & disorganized enough for me.
by Jonathan
I can't endorse this product. >_<
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I'd rather those people stay on the Raimi team. We don't need you spineless types fighting the good fight. Go jump on the latest bandwagon, insecure pillow biters.
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when I heard dubstep
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But it will make people care about the next one even less like Spidey 3 made people care about this one less. But this is much worse than Spidey 3. At least that one still respected the character even though it made some wacky choices with it.
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Takes a lot to get my fifty year old backside into a cinema seat these days. Cost of ticket, room full of cretins talking, texting, arriving late and unable to sit the fuck down for more than twenty minutes. I kind of like the look of this, Garfield looks like he's going to do a good job as Parker/Spidey but jeez, Gwen Stacey knows his secret identity already? He spends more time with the mask off than on? Kudos for only having the one villain though. It's going to suffer with box office take against Avengers and TDKR so even if it does pretty well it'll still look like a flop by comparison. And can I just say, I far preferred the idea of organic web shooters in the movies. One of the few things Raimi dod good with.
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Tell 'em Fred.
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Trailer looks good. I'll watch your movie.
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Looks good.
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This looks like total garbage! Bad CGI, Spidey constantly unmasked. Any of you fanboys who dig this shit really need to get a grip.
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May 15, 2012, 6:11 a.m. CST
I'm not a Raimi lover. It's just that this frankly bores me.
by FluffyUnbound
It's too soon to reboot it again. It's that simple. There is no level of good this movie can achieve that will overcome the Meh factor that arises from the fact that it's too soon. If next year Marvel said HEY GUYS, we're rebooting Iron Man, I wouldn't go see it. Why? Because that would be a stupid idea, that's why. When you overexploit your properties you decrease their value. Welcome to the world of entertainment economics.
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complete waste of C. Thomas Howell. Great on Southland.
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Hey guys, we know you just watched the Star Wars trilogy, but we're starting completely over with Luke Skywalker on Tatooine and recasting all the characters. Come see our movie in Summer 1989! It will be great! In 2012 you could do that. I might go see a Star Wars reboot in 2013, if Lucas had nothing to do with it. But if someone had tried to sell me that shit in 1989 I would have had to pay them in Meh, because that's all I'd have in my pockets after hearing that idea.
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May 15, 2012, 6:27 a.m. CST
I repeat, Peter Parker should not look like NORMAN FUCKING BATES!
by Colin Dent
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..until this is on Netflix streaming. I wouldn't even waste my physical DVD queue for this atrocity. If you fans are serious enough about a true Spider-Man movie then don't bother seeing this in hopes that it flops and the rights revert rightfully back to Marvel so that a REAL Spider-Man movie gets made.
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My problem is that Raimi movies fucked a ton a things up and then this movie comes along and seemingly fixes those issues but then looks to fuck new things up. How hard is it to make a fun Spidey movie with characters and costumes right out of the comic?
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May 15, 2012, 6:53 a.m. CST
I'm still not excited about this, but either way, this is the wrong summer for it.
by Super Rabbi
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May 15, 2012, 6:55 a.m. CST
"The summer's most anticipated film" - BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
by Michael Morning
Ludicrous. Truth in advertising? I think not.
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AVATAR STYLE.
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URHHH URHHH URRRHHHH Sound of Rami lover boy having a fit a super hero movie would dare appeal to women
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Howard was fine on AGT last night but he even admitted it took a couple of tapings to find his proper way. He should be the sole judge. Howie is a tool and Sharon is just a nip n tucked windbag. Nick Cannon is utterly useless. Those reaction shots of him were cringe-worthy. The show was poorly edited and looked like a mess. Looking forward more to the actual live shows.
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May 15, 2012, 7:08 a.m. CST
I AM THE MOST IMPORTANT MAN IN THE WORLD! THIS DOES NOT CONTENT ME!
by theplant
THIS MOVIE IS DOOMED BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE THE RED SHADE USED ON THE NEW COSTUME! THE END OF THE WORLD IS COMING! UHR UHR UHR!
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I HOPE YOU ALL DIE, SO THAT WE CAN ENJOY REAL MOVIES IN PEACE, INSTEAD OF RAIMI SUIT WEARING WITH TIE SELL OUT SHIT CASH GRABS.
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SHIT MORONS, I DARE YOU TO PRODUCE ANY PROOF YOU EVER GET LAID. BITCHES.
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May 15, 2012, 7:17 a.m. CST
The characterisation (not to mention the LOOK) of Peter Parker is spot-on.
by theplant
Morons who like Raimi and Maguire are NOSTALGIC IDIOTS WHO DON'T LIKE SEEING THEIR SPUNK OF THEIR YOUTH TORCH BEING PASSED TO GREENER PASTURES. DICKS.
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May 15, 2012, 7:18 a.m. CST
Tired argument. Getting laid is easy. The prostitutes advertise
by Bedknobs and Boomsticks
openly in the back of the entertainment papers and on Craig's List. You can even pay for more than one at a time.
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Maybe if you quit yelling your mom will unlock the basement door and you can enjoy some sunlight. Better pick up the jizzy kleenex first so she can vacuum.
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Doh? Haters are the ones living under the house
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May 15, 2012, 7:25 a.m. CST
And getting laid is not paying a prostitute or jezzing to MJ
by theplant
What a piece of shit actress MJ was, not to mention Gwen in part III
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Are you fucking serious? That movie wiped its ass with Peter Parker and then pissed on him. Just stick with the bullshit about SM2 being some great film. Everyone knows the movie Raimi wrote and directed (SM3) was an insulting embarrassment to comic book fans. You must think people are morons to believe SM3 was respectul to the characters and fans. It's one of the biggest ”fuck you” to fanboys in history.
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Cuz Garfield looks alot more like Peter Parker than Tobey.
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Which will happen after a short break.
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I'm convinced you fuckers wouldn't know a good Spider-man movie if it sat on your thick heads.
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The only film that got it somewhat right was Spider Man 2 but even that had it's flaws. I only wish for this to flop so that the rights would miraculously revert back to Marvel so that they can get it right and everyone will be happy. Disney/Marvel should use the cash from The Avengers to buy all of their properties back.
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May 15, 2012, 7:59 a.m. CST
I would love to love this, looks decent so far.. Nerds just get on here to bitch and hate because their lives are unfulfilling.
by the Green Gargantua
Try making something maybe? Being hyper critical is great when you are producing your own expression.
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It is by far their biggest franchise. Even if they have to wait 8 years to reboot they'll do it again and again until Spider-man is successful again.
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May 15, 2012, 8:15 a.m. CST
Look how long its been since the last Daredevil and Fantastic Four movies
by Nerd Rage
Marvel still can't get the rights.
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He wears it less and less every time. Studios HATE having their stars hide their faces.
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May 15, 2012, 8:17 a.m. CST
So any time you don't slavishly fall in love with what you are ordered to, and you express a well thought out opinion as to why a VISUAL property doesn't LOOK that enticing - you're a hater.
by Rex Carsalot
Just checking. Thanks.
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...is from E.T. With that, unsure if this movie works.
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May 15, 2012, 8:23 a.m. CST
The minimum time between reboots I will support is 15 years
by FluffyUnbound
Hell, the Star Trek (Kirk version) reboot time was EIGHTEEN MOTHERFUCKING YEARS, and people still said it was too soon. When the first Maguire film came out, I was pumped. I looked forward to the film with eager anticipation. But you can't wait ten seconds and put out a reboot and expect me to be that enthusiastic AGAIN for a rehash of what you did a few years ago. And no, I'm not going to change my tune if Batman is rebooted three years after Bale and Nolan walk away. I will say Meh to that, too, because it will be an obvious naked attempt to cash in by bringing the property back too soon. Just like this is.
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May 15, 2012, 8:26 a.m. CST
Anyone who says "You haven't seen the movie" to a hater, is a douche
by Cobb05
A trailer is put together to make people want to see the movie. I for one have never seen a trailer for a blockbuster movie that made me say "This looks lie shit." And then watch movie and say "That movie was awesome!" I think The Amazing Spider-Man looks like the dropped the ball. Could it be an ok movie, sure. But I see no chance in hell that I see it and think it's amazing. I saw the first trailer for Green Lantern and thought it was shit and guess what, it was.
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May 15, 2012, 8:29 a.m. CST
Are they changing the origin story a'la Ang Lee's HULK?
by Apocalypse_Pooh
What I gather from the trailers is that - like Ang Lee's HULK - Peter's father messed around with his DNA and the "accident" in the lab with the spider bite only amplifies what was already there? God I hope that isn't where they're going.
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Kids are going to love it.
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May 15, 2012, 8:32 a.m. CST
Today at my gym there was a man in the lockerroom walking around naked
by ajit maholtra
I think he must have been a gay.
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...more power to ya. Sony will be able to make their accomplishment of catering to the easily entertained for some easy money.
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..........this however did not. It kinda felt...............cheap. I know that's crazy because it's big budget but there was something about it that made gave it a kiddie/disney channel vibe.
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Looks like nerd rage has been up all night posting on the feedback. Don't you have anything else today? It's almost as if you do this for a job (imagine that...) or that numerous Sony shills have access to the nerd rage login so they can post non-stop. By the way, was reading an earlier post where you indicated that the new movies will be doing the Gwen Stacy death story at some point but am wondering how you know that? Also, to the other shills who state that this movie portrays Peter Parker's character correctly as opposed to the Rami films, how do you know this from seeing small clips of Parker from the trailers? Come on guys, time to fess up...
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THis movie will be out for 1 week, mainly only teens will see it, word will get out how bad it is, and no one will waste their time. Especially when it will compare so lightly to earlier Spider man movies, and be a joke next to Avengers and TDK....
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my how the mighty have fallen
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and everything they've shown looks like an unnecessary insult to us webheads. The project just reeks of studio execs guessing what will get the most cash squeezed from the spider fruit. The art director on this movie should be fired, Spidey has always been a sunny day superhero, the iconic Dr. Curt Connors looks like a ps3 cutscene that stops the movie in its tracks... The silver slippers and black crotch are infuriating for someone who thinks Spideys costume design is near perfect. (still wish we see his armpit web thingees someday) Guys the list goes on and on. Just read the talkbacks. Netflix baby.
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....will Sony have the balls to go back to Raimi with hat in hand and ask him to do Spiderman 4 as he wanted to do it? We know they wont give up the rights (fucking ever)
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May 15, 2012, 9:12 a.m. CST
if there were no Avengers & DKR this summer it would have a better shot
by smudgewhat
but it only looks ok. and by inevitable comparison people are going to choose to 'punish' one comic book movie this summer, and this is probably the odd man out.
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May 15, 2012, 9:16 a.m. CST
Please tell me that gas doesn't turn people into lizard people...
by biscuithead
...it can't be that retarded, right?
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It looks cool but not what I wanted. I was hoping for a real Spider-Man flick. More funny and light-hearted super hero stuff. And just like the Raimi Spider-Man flicks, he takes his mask off way too much. Very dumb.
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I had problems with the Raimi films, but I still loved the first two. I'm looking forward to things like James Horner's score and a good 3-D presentation, especially after the post-prod conversion job on The Avengers made several minutes of it almost unwatchable (I saw it again twice in 2-D and liked it much, much better). But I can't shake the feeling that a lot of the posters here (won't name names, I'll just leave that to the rest of you guys) are plants. Sorry Sony, but there are those of us who simply can't forget the whole fake reviewer brouhaha.
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The second half of the trailer fares better once the super quick cuts start happening. That's not good. The part where the kid puts on the Spidey mask made me laugh out loud. Maybe it will work better in context, but putting it so early in a trailer like this is stupid. This is a classic AICN comment, but yes, it looks cheap, the FX look low budget, the CG sucks. Yes, he needs to keep the mask on.It's kind of what superheroes with secret identities have been doing for some time. This isn't Twilight. But who knows, maybe the new Superman movie will have the big S flying around wearing Clark Kent's glasses the whole movie. Never a fan of the Lizard. He was fun as a digression now and then in the early books. But as he is classically a good guy when not the Lizard, it weakens the threat. And yeah, going against Avengers, it's hard to compete with villains like Norse gods and an army of alien warriors. A scientist who turns into a lizard? Somebody throw a grenade at this guy and let's go home. Gwen Stacy was much more interesting dead. But the first Raimi film already copped (and changed) her best storyline. And finally, probably continuing to echo so many others here, the idea of focusing on Parker's parents is a desperate move, the kind a comic book makes after a few decades and the well runs dry. Peter Parker is not Harry Potter. What happened to his parents isn't as interesting as who he becomes and what happens to him. "I'm a brilliant, nice, clever, funny kid who gets super powers! Oh, but wait until you hear about my mom!" And when you focus too much on the parents, his aunt and uncle get too downplayed in importance. When really, "classically", what happens to Uncle Ben and how he takes care of Aunt May are far, far more important in the shaping of the character. WTF is wrong with Hollywood. Are you guys reading this?
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Just dreary and seems like it takes itself way too seriously. TDKR is enough gloominess for one summer. After Avengers I want comics to be light and fun again.
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May 15, 2012, 9:44 a.m. CST
Is that Norman Osborn in the jail cell talking to Connors?
by Royston Lodge
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May 15, 2012, 9:45 a.m. CST
Main problem: we don't give a shit about parkers parents.
by knowthyself
His parents have always been an after thought. There's a reason they were never mentioned before.
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May 15, 2012, 9:49 a.m. CST
I still suspect they're laying the groundwork to add Spidey to the MCU.
by Royston Lodge
The way they're hinting that Peter's dad was working on something that's AWFULLY similar to the Super Soldier Serum, really makes me think they're looking towards a day when they can get the rights back from Sony.
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May 15, 2012, 9:51 a.m. CST
Nerd Rage, The Amazing One-Man "SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP!" Army
by buggerbugger
You're really not doing this shitty-looking movie any favours.
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I couldn't tell you jack shit about them. I'm sure they went into that in the comics or maybe the 90's cartoon? Whatever.
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...I doubt Sony would let the writers sneak in the infrastructure that would enable Marvel to steal one of their biggest cash cows away some day. Still, we can hope I suppose...
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May 15, 2012, 9:59 a.m. CST
At least Christian Bale keeps his mask whenever he's Batman - unlike 95 percent of Marvel Masked Superheroes :-(
by Atkinson
Pampered actors need to commit to the role, or not do the role at all.
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That really makes me NOT want to see this thing. Not only are we continuing the "take mask off at every opportunity," the effects look worse than the Rami films. Those CGI cars on the bridge look so cheesy. Then the van starts on the fire, and it's the most fake looking CGI I've seen since Mortal Kombat in the 90s. And the parents story line seems like a snooze fest. Coming off Avengers and the TDKR's latest trailer, this just looks like shit.
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I've been chasing this little warrior bastard all across Fantasia. Through the friggin' swamps of sadness, across the goddam purple plains... the shit-eater stabbed me. But i'm still gonna see this movie. And you whiny pricks are complaining about web-shooters and missing masks.
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... They change the upside down kiss to where spidey goes lower, whips both his mask and pants down they do a full blown 69 with Steel Panthers "Community Property" playing and at the end Gwen says "ooh what a lovely tea party!" Besides the "should I wear the mask, take it off" issue, the making Connors a nasty character rather than a tragic one sucks, its way off. As for the Raimi hate, from what I read he was told to use Vultress by Sony in SM4 along with the Vulture, due to the shit he got and from having to use Venom in SM3 he told Sony to stick it. Hence why the rushed the reboot as if a SM film didnt appear in 2012 the rights reverted. If thats not correct then fair play I hold my hands up, if it is true fair play to Raimi, although wished he'd had his balls to stand up to Sony before SM3. I'll more than likely go see this with my kids anyway but doubt I'll do the first day, first showing, then take the kids, like Ive done with some movies like the Avengers.
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Their showing more footage at Kapow in London this weekend. For fucks sake they may as well just put the film up online now at this rate!
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May 15, 2012, 10:16 a.m. CST
This feels and looks more like the comic than Raimi's movies ever did.
by MST3KPIMP
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There's too much negativity around here so if anyone involved with the making of this movie happens to read this then I think you're doing a hell of a job and this is the only film i'm excited about watching this year. Thank you!!!
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May 15, 2012, 10:32 a.m. CST
Loved the way Webb captured Gwen Stacy's smile at the end there when the coach asked Peter if he wanted to play football.
by CodeName
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The shitty part is if Sony keeps production costs low, they can keep making mediocre Spidey films and still make money, waiting for the accidental hit... because they obviously dont know what will work and what wont. I want Spidey to go back to Marvel so he can rejoin the universe of team up films while its still gathering steam. No trend lasts forever. By the time DC gets there shit together, itll prolly be too late. I dont want it to be too late for the webhead. For everyone that keeps saying "See the movie before you pass judgement!" I say, No. While your plantish postings may convince a few suckers to pay the ticket price, I dont want to pay the ransom. Sony has Spiderman as a legal hostage and I want the license to revert to Marvel. Id love to know the details of the license agreement. As far as I know, if Sony meets certain conditions they keep the license forever... I wonder what those conditions are and what regular fans can do about it. Step one is dont pay to see this movie. Sneak in, maybe... just dont pay.
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This preview proves that Andrew Garfield makes for a terrible, emo, cocky Peter Parker, and the story isn't even close to what Stan Lee and Steve Ditko put on paper in 1963. Peter Parker exemplifies a truly innocent, nerdy kid with no real social skills, an outsider who was constantly picked on and a real loner who took a while to find his lot in life, yet was an incredibly intelligent and bright. This preview makes him look like the cool, cute guy with all the goods, including a girlfriend who sticks to him like glue. What the filmmakers are doing is trying to combine a superhero franchise with Twilight undertones, so to appeal to both the Geek boys and Twilight Tweenies. This is NOT Spiderman! Please bring back Raimi and Tobey!!!
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So I'm in
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First of all, I'm still flummoxed by any poster who continues to bitch about "bad CGI". As opposed to what? Shitty blue-screen work from the Eighties? Nicolas Hammond's stunt double being obviously hoisted up the side of a building by a rope while he pretends he's "climbing"? Stop-motion? Exactly what other options are you in favor of here? Good, bad or indifferent, the "Spider-Man" FX they keep showing look about 100 times better than anything in Raimi's films, and I loved the first two of those.</p><p> Still not sold on the overarching need for this film's existence, though. Garfield comes across a lot better than Maguire ever did as both Peter Parker or Spider-Man, mainly because I think Raimi told Maguire to "play Asperger's Syndrome" for his films. Never go "full-on retard". I have a love-hate relationship with the costume (WHY IN THE FUCK IS HE WEARING SANDALS?!?), but it's nice to see the web shooters back, and in most shots, he looks like the classic comic Spider-Man, and the costume itself is actually a lot more believable than Maguire going from red spray-painted sweats to a $100,000 raised-web job (that keeps getting destroyed). Except for those fucking sandals.</p><p> I just don't get the rest of it. I think it's overly complicating what should be a simple and straight-forward origin story: nerdy teen gets bit by a spider, becomes super-strong, sticks to walls, actually does what any nerd would do if they had super powers and tries to get laid with them, fucks up, inadvertently gets his uncle killed, pays penance by becoming a superhero. Add anything else and you're creating a potential mess ... or you're using Steven Kloves to sex it up with some "Harry Potter" horseshit.
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May 15, 2012, 10:58 a.m. CST
Him without his masked is becoming more annoying everytime I see it..
by ganymede3010
Besides that and the forgettable GCI I'm all on board.
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You sound like a FUCKING 12-YEAR OLD SOULJA BOY FAN, YOU FUCKING DUMBASS SHITBAG ASSCOCKS. UNLESS YOU FUCKS ACTUALLY LISTEN TO SOULJA BOY AND SAY *HATERS* IN REGULAR CONVERSATION, ALONG WITH *HOMEY*, AND *MAH NIGGGGAAAA*, THEN SHUT THE FUCK UP WITH YOUR SHITTY-ASS MAURY-TALKSHOW-GUEST SPEAK. Thanks. Fucks.
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CUE TO GEEKS FALLING FROM THE SKY AND LANDING HARD, WTC STYLE -- RETARDS
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YOU WILL BE POWNED. AVATAR PART II. YEAH, WE REMEMBER YOU ALL RIGHT AFTER THE FIRST AVATAR TRAILER, SCUMBAGS WHO DIDN'T EVEN SHOW UP TO NEIGHBOR THEATER ON AVATAR DAY. SCUM.
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May 15, 2012, 11:23 a.m. CST
So sick of people bitching about them not wearing the mask
by JacksParasites
1. Peter is the main character, not Spiderman. It's Peter who's the one learning the life lessons that make him become a better man. 2. Films are a different medium than comics. In comics, it's all just drawings on a page and you get have an entire book without them taking off the mask even once. But in films, that just dehumanizes the character and hinders the actual acting, which in turn turns off talented actors from agreeing to do the part. Now Dr. Doom was an exception to this because that character obviously should have spent the entire film in a mask because that's actually a major component to the character. But Spiderman is not Dr. Doom. He actually has to live a life outside the mask and it's his very human story that makes Spiderman compelling and not just a series of action scenes strung together. As for the scene where he takes it off in the trailer, it's done intelligently. That being said, Spiderman takes his mask off in the comics quite a bit too.
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NERDS
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ALL WE HEAR IS YOU SCUMBAGS TALKING ABOUT I, I, I, -- YOU ARE WORTH LESS THAN SHIT, SO STOP THINKING YOU ARE THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE, YOU SAD SACKS
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You know what? Gwen Stacy looks decent, the tone is radically different to Raimi (who, let's be honest, dropped the ball BIG TIME with SM3 - that shit was parodic), and Spidey taking his mask off - whatever... if the story suits it (no pun intended) then let it happen. It's about time Spiderman got hot. Garfield looks great, and is playing completely different to Maguire's pretty-good, but bloody tiresome whinge-fest. This trailer sold me more than the others. Bring it on. (That said, flanked by Avengers and TDKR, it's got no hope of legendary longevity... soz M. Webb)
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Not really getting why people are worried about him losing / removing it in this. Seems like they are handling it smartly. Connors figures it out probably during a battle. The cops yank it off, but he keeps his face down, and probably gets it back on very quickly. In the Raimi movies it gets torn or removed just as much for whatever reason. All those people on the elevated train in S-M2 got a clear look at his face, and could easily have identified him. "We won't tell" doesn't cut it. But then they were cornball movies anyway.
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Even with the studio meddling in the movie, Rami is 100% responsible for the turd-bomb that movie turned out to be.
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May 15, 2012, 11:36 a.m. CST
Yeah anyone who defends a movie that looks better than kiddie shit like SM1 and SM3 must be a plant
by Nerd Rage
I can see you goofballs in your tin foil hats trying to stop the brain signals from movie studios. Look on any talkback. How many names do you recognize? 20%? 15%? Most of the names you never saw before. So most talkbackers are plants? Step away from the Raimi kool aid.
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May 15, 2012, 11:37 a.m. CST
Agreed about the "mask" complaints. Stfu already!! Of COURSE these characters arent gonna wear the mask as much as the comics. Are you too stupid to understand why that is?
by dahveed1972
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best part of these new spidey trailers...turn that shit up!
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That is one expensive trailer, folks. 4 minutes on national TV? C'mon, that is huge money spent during a show designed to hit nearly every demographic. Sony's marketing seems desperate, especially the announcement that a sequel is already in the works. That's always bullshit. Nothing about this movie is appealing, really. I thought the last preview was pretty good, but the latest Lizard featurette and now this 4 minute deal has left a real bad taste in my mouth... Just like the silver booties, and the emo skate punk Parker.
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May 15, 2012, 11:38 a.m. CST
That said, my reservations about this movie have grown a bit, especially in regards to the Lizard. Still might be a decent movie tho.
by dahveed1972
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May 15, 2012, 11:39 a.m. CST
Didnt Feige set up Spidey at Sony and XMen at Fox? Dude left a void apparently. Although, I guess he has some involvement still via Marvel. Not sure about that tho.
by dahveed1972
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Starring Andrew George Garfield Lazenby.
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this just looks more or less underwhelming. And Avengers didn't really reinvent anything, it just did things that worked in previous comic films better while raising the stakes. Spiderman will be good if it can get me to care about a spire/tower from a building falling. But from the looks of it, it's looks like the same hallow CGI set piece type stuff we've seen over, and over again. And at night when no one is probably in the building to build the stakes give it a some gravity? Easy. Lazy. I'll wait to pass total judgment, but I'm not sure the world wants this movie nor will it build on anything that's already been done in the Marvel universe. Marvel should find a loophole and get this property back under their wing
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dont see what everyone is bitching about personally, im excited.
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May 15, 2012, 12:01 p.m. CST
How do we know the haters aren't plants from rival studios?
by Nerd Rage
Imma need some I.D. fellas.
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May 15, 2012, 12:10 p.m. CST
Didn't NBC run an extended "preview" of Spiderman 3 a few years back?
by openthepodbaydoorshal
May is a sweeps month, is it not?
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May 15, 2012, 12:12 p.m. CST
You know, after watching that scene now 14 times where Spidey is...
by DoctorWho?
...toying with the guy and the "small knives"...the tone seems all wrong. I'm big on seeing things in context so I'll wait and see but...his body language, his voice...he just sounds like a punk
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get it through your heads people...the dark knight was a crappy movie and only had heath ledger's death going for it. the truth will come out when the dark knight rises hits the theater and doesn't make shit for money. and i agree with everyone who said that marvel should get the right back (to all their characters for that matter). with the avengers making a buck or two, it would be nice to see a secret wars movie.
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You should probably whine a whole bunch more.
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in to a cgi cartoon man in red and blue pyjamas?? answer me that!!
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You don't pay an actor millions of dollars plus points only to have him wear a sock over his head, obscuring his identity. If Spidey never took off his mask, you'd be paying Garfield millions just for doing ADR voice-over work. That's why, in every Spider-Man movie thus far, the mask is torn to shreds or removed completely during big action sequences, so we can see the well-paid actor on screen, making the teenage girls tingle in their seats. That's why Garfield will take off the mask as often as possible, or have it torn to pieces so we can see the wealthy actor underneath.
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And that's a problem - Peter Parker ain't supposed to do that - girls shouldn't be turned on by the way Peter Parker looks (at least in the early days of the Spider-Man comics). In the debate about who looks the most like Peter Parker, I don't understand the arguments that Garfield looks more like Parker. Parker wasn't a pretty boy and I thought Toby was perfect for the part. Peter Parker was somewhat wimpy and a nerdy wall-flower. I don't get that vibe from Garfield at all...
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May 15, 2012, 12:54 p.m. CST
good guess buckethead, but no. keep guessing, youll get it!
by dahveed1972
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...one of the worst scenes in the original Raimi film was the Green Goblin talking to Spider-Man on a roof, asking Spider-Man to join him or some such. It played like Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. Sometimes, no mask is a good thing.
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checked out the trailer thismorning.. looks great, i plan on watching this film later tonight. keep up the good work fella, dont let any of those haters get to you
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May 15, 2012, 1:18 p.m. CST
If Spidey's rights go back to Marvel Studios, he can swing by Stark Tower to chill with the Avengers.
by Mr. Pricklepants
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PLEASE GO BACK TO YOUR REGULAR SPOT AS A GUEST ON MAURY. THANKS.
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That say for example the Hunger Games, there's only really one book to adapt, with superheroes there's 100's of good stories, so with some good research and love for the character these movies should be no brainers to make. Its only over the last decade that CGI and effects are now good enough to make our heroes a reality on the big screen. There's no need to start throwing in stupid shit for the sake of it, OK costumes may need to evolve to be more realistic thats fine, but to screw over how the characters are etc is just wrong DK and the recent Marvel Studios movies showed that our heroes can be done like the comics and we shouldnt have to settle for some chick flick directors version or for that matter what the studio wants. DK and The Avengers especially have shown that the general public audience can except the stories that us fans crave. If iit aint broke then dont fix it!
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May 15, 2012, 1:50 p.m. CST
Hopefully, in the next Fantastic Four movie we will get a real Galactus not some amorphous cloud of shite
by Joe Plumber
It seems absurd in the aftermath of The Avengers enormous success that filmmakers at one time shied away from the more fantastical elements of comics and opted instead for unimaginative and cliched interpretations.
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May 15, 2012, 1:51 p.m. CST
would've been a funny moment if the kid put on the mask without being prompted...
by misnomer
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The bit where Spidey took off his mask in order to save the kid in the car was reminiscent of the classic story "The Kid Who Collected Spider-Man". Spider-man knew the boy was afraid of him because of his mask (this obviously takes place before many people knew who Spider-Man was), so he took it off to save the kid. He also knew that letting him wear the mask might give him the confidence he needed to climb to safety. Though I hate when characters take their masks off (or refuse to wear their helmets. Thor, I'm talking to you.), I think it is completely justified here and makes the scene more powerful. Almost everything about this movie is a step up from the original trilogy. I'm definitely willing to overlook the goofy changes to the costume, the rumored change in Spidey's origin, the immediate re-boot, and even the flat-faced Lizard if they nail the character of Peter Parker. So far, I like everything I see. Andrew Garfield was an inspired choice.
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May 15, 2012, 1:52 p.m. CST
Spider-Man should always be an event movie. They're letting it slip into also-ran territory here; one more reason Sony should let Marvel run with it.
by kevred
Really, no matter how much nerd rage likes this film, Sony has let it slip into second-level status, which should never happen. It used to be top dog, and now it's down closer to, say, Fantastic Four as a semi-celebrity-but-non-event film. Avengers has changed the rules. The comic worlds have to get bigger now. Spidey's too isolated, and Sony plainly isn't willing to make it into "the" movie these days. I repeat, just look at where it's being released: Just a week and a half after the next Pixar film, 4 days after GI Joe, one week before another major kid/family film (Ice Age) and two weeks before TDKR. Spidey needs his world back. He needs to be able to have run-ins with Luke Cage, random Avengers, the FF, or characters from those collective properties. We don't need to see mega-team-ups every time, but the sense of possibility should be there. Dark Knight has created enough of a spectacle that it can get away with this for now, but Spidey is looking awful lonesome compared to Avengers world. Sony, give it back to Marvel for a big cut of all future films. They'll do it, you'll make more money with less work, and the fans will win. Bring Garfield, just give it back.
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May 15, 2012, 1:53 p.m. CST
I'[m SO sick of people shitting on this over comic continuity and then drooling about Nolan-verse Batman.
by Playkins
You know who you are.
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Seriously...Weaving was simply excellent behind the Guy Fawke's mask the entire time. We never see his face even once...and his almost-soliloquy monolog he does in the beginning when rescuing Eve, is the stuff of awesomeness. He didn't do the 'shake-head when speaking' thing the Power-rangers do (and Raimi had Spidey and Goblin do a bit) so I think it's possible to get a great performance without having to see the actors eyes and mouth. It's simple really: don't have the actors in full-face masks shake their heads around when speaking. Why would you do this anyway? So the myopic asshats watching know who's speaking at any moment? My guess is only a complete unthinking moron would not realize the difference in character voices so you actually don't have to give visual cues as to who is speaking and who is not provided the characters, you know, don't sound identical. The power-rangers cast all sounded alike with only gender differentiating them - they had had to shake their heads or no one would have known who was talking. And it looks like campy, self-parodying ass on screen. Hugo Weaving proved you don't have to have a bell and light going off above your head to indicate that you're the one speaking if no one can see your face/mouth. Weaving's voice is uncanny, to be sure..easy to 'spot' and all that..but I think that's even more to my point...even with Dafoe and Macguire wearing masks, would anybody actually have trouble telling which voice belonged to which character? Toddlers? Toddlers might be confused? Those guys are demanding assholes anyway. Give them a marshmellow or some peanut butter and they're entertained for hours. Problem solved.
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May 15, 2012, 1:57 p.m. CST
The sad thing is, if Rhino were the villain, I'd be psyched for this
by Joe Plumber
But, mushroom head doesn't do it for me so I'm gonna give this a pass.
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Nobody involved in this Spidey film knows better than the people who created the character and make him famous. The stupid changes to the suit show a kind of egotistical disregard that implies more loyalty to money than to the character, not to mention timidity. The Avengers has a collection of the silliest-looking superhero outfits we've seen on screen in a long time. And it's the biggest superhero film in history, after only two weeks, with people across the board laughing and enjoying the whole ride. The "black jumpsuit X-Men" have come full circle. If you do it with conviction, you can do the comics justice.
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Why does the lizard look like the hulk? Why does every damn superhero reveal their secret identity? -Every Batman movie. -Every Spiderman movie (once to a subway train full of people) -Most Superman movies. -Iron Man. Why aren't the villains good enough? Why must they make them "Better"? -Fantastic 4 gave Doom superpowers. -Batman made catwoman some kind of Undead thing. -Lex Luthor was a bungling idiot in every superman movie, except the the terrible one where they gave superman a friggin kid, and the stupid kid got more screen time than awesome Spacey! They NEEEEEED to check with me first before they ruin more comic movies....
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Nope, didn't leave a comment.
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May 15, 2012, 2:13 p.m. CST
Oh, and have fun tryin to follow up after The Avengers. Cause THAT'S a superhero film. Thanks Joss.
by ToughGuyRizzo
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He's very strong and can run in a straight line. What are you gonna do with that? He's like Juggernaut, but without any interesting backstory or connections or personality. He gets mad, puts his head down, and runs in a straight line. I enjoyed the character when I was little, but I can't visualize a movie built around him. That's not to make fun of anyone who likes the character - I'm asking sincerely, how would it work? Maybe there's a more recent take on the character that fits the bill. What I saw in the video-game trailer just looked silly.
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Of what the typical AICN Whiner can do when he tries to make his own special effects after complaining about how crappy the CGI is in the current movies. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGHfCDsHGpg <p> If you can do better than what the people *actually making* the movies can do, then get your ass out there and do it. If not, shut the hell up!
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I’m not the biggest fan of the comics but I know enough of the character to have expected Maguire to play him as a bit more lively rather than a glum, morose and chronically-depressed wet rag. Andrew Garfield already looks to deliver a more lively performance and I’m definitely not missing Kirsten “Milquetoast” Dunce as the female lead. Sans flaming car the effects look great and the combat and action appear to have a kinetic energy lacking from some of Raimi’s scenes. Also, Spiderman 3 is, objectively, one of the worst films I’ve ever sat through. That entire deus ex machina butler revelation alone was one of the stupidest things ever put to celluloid.
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May 15, 2012, 2:18 p.m. CST
He takes off his goddamned mask because a masked character can't emote at all.
by Novaman5000
That works for a comic where there's stationary panels but for film it's awkward when spiderman talks through his mask, it doesn't even look like he's speaking at all. This was an issue with the last trilogy when everything he said in the suit looked like it had been added in ADR, and they even made Tobey (or his stunt double?) nod his head as he spoke to make it seem more fitting. Instead he just looked like he was overacting. This isn't an issue with other superheroes like batman as usually you can see their mouths. But for Spider-man he runs the risk of looking like a fucking puppet or stand-in for the duration of the film if he doesn't take off the mast at least once in awhile. That being said I bet he doesn't take it off as much as people think, but we'll see.
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I can't understand why one more over-the-top action flick is going to attract anyone but the most dedicated fanboys. Sure, the movie will be fun, but at these prices, is it really worth it? Not to me, plus I will not see anything with the shithead Denis Leary in it.
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May 15, 2012, 2:26 p.m. CST
thank you to everyone who illustrated the multiple reasons why superheroes dont wear their masks as much as the comics. lets put that to bed forever.
by dahveed1972
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Some dodgy acting, bad dialog, dumb scenes, some special effects that are bad enough to take you out of the moment, etc etc. I love Spiderman so I'm hoping for the best, but it's not looking good so far.
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Why is his head round? It just looks weird
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... read the damn books.
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Seems pretty confusing actually.
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Do you have any idea how difficult it is to sew basketball skin together?
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Fuck the haters. Seriously.
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Whether you boycott or not, Sony's not going to give the rights back to Marvel. Stop smoking crack.
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May 15, 2012, 3:47 p.m. CST
kevred, you're absolutely right, but I just love the Rhino
by Joe Plumber
I did say that it was a sad thing. He doesn't have to be the main villain. He could be a henchman that the villain hired to run in a straight line and demolish things. Tell me that seeing a live action Rhino on the big screen running roughshod through lots of crap wouldn't be all kinds of awesome. And Rhino > Juggernaut, because he's a big dude in a Rhino costume.
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Nerd Rage and The plant have given this movie soo much stock, they are like hoplessly invested that this movie "has" to be good, its really just sad, and shows that you two have nothing better to do that talk about how great this movie is going to be... you no different than myself, only thing is, I'm smart where i spend MY cash, not my parents cash... but MINE! you both sound like kids, im guessing 12-16 range.... and as for people getting laid arguement, I just got a hummer last night before i called you two homos lol.
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most of you talk shit about movies because you have nothing else better to do with your sad lives.
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May 15, 2012, 5:21 p.m. CST
Let the haters hate... they will all be plunking down money opening weekend and Sony will continue to own Spidey because...
by Lloyd Fenton
Movie nerds can't resist a guy in a costume. All the liers here who say I'm not going to see this, I call BULLSHIT!!!!
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May 15, 2012, 5:28 p.m. CST
Fat Dorks dressed in illfitting Spidey costumes, like neonfrisbee, veritasses, and athesitscum will all be there!
by Lloyd Fenton
haters hate cuz they have no lives! "Mom, I want to go see Spiderman, can I please have some money?!?!" "Alright dear, but you know, you are 38 now. Are you ever going to get a job?" "But Mom, I applied to Wal-Mart 2 months ago. They never called me back!" Losers...
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May 15, 2012, 6:25 p.m. CST
@riprat, I won't be seeing this opening day. Or, most likely, at all.
by kevred
Not out of some strident protest. Just because it doesn't look very interesting to me. And I've been a fan of Spidey my entire reading life. Had a Spidey t-shirt when I was a little kid. My little son has a couple of them, too. Have 7 volumes of the Marvel Essentials trade paperbacks of old Spidey runs on my shelves. Saw the first two Raimi films. Didn't see the third. Saw Avengers opening day. This one just isn't doing it for me.
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Matinee or DVD will be what its worth....I remember the same type build up to Fantastic Four 2...lol
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I'll see it, but not opening weekend or potentially in theaters. I don't care about 3D and I'm fine viewing movies at home on blu-ray. The only two movies getting my money in theaters this summer are Prometheus and The Dark Knight Rises.
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May 15, 2012, 7:21 p.m. CST
@darth_meh, I think you have well articulated the reasons to put Rhino on the big screen. :)
by kevred
Heck, I'd enjoy seeing it too. I hope we get to see a lot of his crazy gallery of villains on screen eventually. Spidey must have the best rogues gallery ever. I have the feeling they'd be more fun to see under the Disney/Marvel banner than elsewhere. Development of villains in the Marvel films has lagged behind that of heroes (with the notable exception of Loki), but their films seem to have the right fun+fantasy quotient to make the big villains work.
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May 15, 2012, 8:23 p.m. CST
I'm supreised Nerd(the plant)Rage isn't still on the boards masturbating to this clip
by ChiTownsBest
That posters either a plant or he's got a serious Andrew Garfield fetish
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May 15, 2012, 9:05 p.m. CST
Only tweens and old people going deaf and loosing their basic cognitive functioning could think that's Dubstep
by alexander
Bless, how cute.
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Anybody on here says "Looks good" or "Give it a chance" and you can be fairly certain he's a plant. It doesn't look good, it looks terrible. The casting the dialogue and especially the costume. Just awful. And I really don't like the raimi movies either, so I'm not trying to join any partisan fights. Seriously people, if you aren't psyched by what you've seen, wait for a rental. Don't help this movies box office because of name recognition alone. Otherwise we're just gonna keep getting this kinda crap. Hollywood puts all its money into franchises nowadays just because they're sure things. Quit being mouth-breathing fanboys. You all know deep down inside that this is going to suck. And even if it doesn't, they haven't given you any reason to see it except that its another entry into a well known franchise. If you want to give it a chance, then do so at the movie rental store.
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...BATMAN BEGINS used first, next to REVENGE OF THE SITH out of all movies. And here's proof: "This is a great night for fans of the two most popular superheroes in the history of American Pop Culture," said David Janollari, President of Entertainment at The WB. "Fans of 'Smallville' will not want to miss this special extended version of what will be the series’ best-ever season finale. Broadcasting exclusive footage of the summer's most anticipated feature film, 'Batman Begins', makes this a very exciting night for us and a natural fit for the fans of 'Smallville'." My point is there's nothing wrong calling a movie the most anticipated of the summer. Every reboot needs some convincing to get the general audience going. I think they are advertising quite properly. Coming to think of it, it's basically just like BB was advertised, like the clip shown today and this one from BB after the Smallville Season Finale. I'm rooting for TASM more than any other movie this year, and while I'm not as hopeful as fire deep, I'm still quite hopeful.
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Anyone thinking this will bomb without having a single clue if it's a good film or not is just a fucking troll, and I don't care if you're a huge The Avengers or TDKR fan, if you play the statistic doctor or if you have a crystal ball. If this movie gets good reviews for being a good film, if it gets good WOM for being a good film, if people coming the next month get more and more interested, why the hell this would bomb? Explain it to me. "Oh it's a reboot". HULK. People thought that Whedon and Ruffalo couldn't pull it off, I though that too, and look where we are now. SM3 is hated, but HULK reboot history is confusing as hell. We're talking about Spider-Man here, ladies and gentlemen. Of course it won't make as much money as TDKR or TA because it's a reboot, but I think the way people are taking this for granted hillariously dumb, to not say offensive with the fans of the franchise. I remember quite well people bad mouthing BATMAN BEGINS before the release date back then, but back then the fans of other franchises didn't act like a nazi patrol choosing what will succeed or not. Will it bomb? I don't know. It could go both ways. But let's not get ahead of ourselves, shall we? Saying this doesn't have a chance at the box office is the same thing saying that TDKR doesn't have a chance at the box office and the film will bomb. "Oh but Nolan is a proven success and there's a fanbase", well, you haven't seen the movie yet, have you? Let's calm the fuck down and see what happens. Thank you.
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May 15, 2012, 9:46 p.m. CST
And for the Nolanites out there, please consider watching this video:
by Jack
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvJeLjDFWbY&sns=em You've spilled your hate on THE AVENGERS already. Stop trying to kill a movie that showed to have more heart than all previous Raimi's trilogy with just one single scene. As for THE AVENGERS fans, you've seen these boards when the movie was released. Don't let the Nolanites fool you: This is the best year of our fucking lives when it comes to superhero movies. Let's just hope that TDKR can keep it up. TASM trailer and 4 min clip already look quite more promising than Nolan's pretentious crap.
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*Anyone thinking this will bomb without having a single clue if it's a good film or not is just a fucking troll, and I don't care if you're a huge The Avengers or TDKR fan, if you play the statistic doctor or if you have a crystal ball. If this movie gets good reviews for being a good film, if it gets good WOM for being a good film, if people coming the next month get more and more interested, why the hell this would bomb?* Because it is not a good film. Everything we've seen is evidence. Why would anyone give this movie a chance? Unless they just have money to burn. And I'm not a Nolanite, nor an Avengers fan, nor a Raimi fan. This movie is just objectively bad. Proof. http://collider.com/spider-man-reboot-costume-images/74606/ The absence of a belt line breaking the continuity of the upper and lower body yeilds a nude look. Add to that the fact that the red upper body pattern terminates at his crotch, and the racing stripes on his legs look like straps for garter belts, and you have a weirdly sexualized spiderman suit. Then you've got the black crotch making it look like he pissed himself. And compared to the original design it just looks half-assed. Like they couldn't bother to connect the belt line at the front. Like they didn't know how to terminate the chest line without the belt so they said, "fuck it, just paint it black". They thought he needed some bling, so they just added little silver slippers. The official release photos are strategically posed in such a way that it minimizes the differences. And in the trailer footage they manage to not show it by hiding him in the shadows, or having him crouch, or only show head shots. So basically the one element necessary for a good spiderman flic, showing spiderman in action, is completely ruined just because the suit is so awful. Either you will see how bad the suit is and it will distract from the action, or they'll obscure it thus making the action incomprehensible. There is no way this can be a good spiderman movie, just from the costume alone. Then you have the casting. Garfield is too tall and lanky to look like spiderman, he's too old to play a convincing teenager, and his persona isn't much different from Tobey's from what I've seen. He plays parker as an emo pussy, instead of a science nerd. One of those sensitive little twits who have literally nothing else going on except that they're shy and sensitive. *So Peter, tell us about yourself.*Not much to tell really*Peter lives with his aunt and uncle* -Great character writing there. That just shows how much the writers know or care about the character.
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AKA shit generation
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May 15, 2012, 10:56 p.m. CST
The only plants here are the TDKR scared shitless that this can make money and menace their beloved Nolan God.
by Jack
Stop being pathetic. I was here when you tried the same thing with THE AVENGERS. And of course that I know that there's people here that enjoyed THE AVENGERS but aren't excited for this, but one thing I've noticed that made me laugh: There's one dude that says that THE AVENGERS was too good and the audience won't care for TASM. The same dude was bad mouthing THE AVENGERS two weeks ago and now is saying that he loves THE AVENGERS and this will bomb. I won't say who it is, if you look it up or remember you'll know who I'm talking about. If there are plants here, it's the Nolanites, trying to sabotage this film because they're too pussy about this getting good reviews and WOM. This won't bomb. And that's why some Nolanites are scared shitless trying to sabotage this. They've tried with THE AVENGERS and failed. They are trying again now... And they'll fail, once again. ' I'll never judge this movie before I've seen it. I'll never love a movie from trailers like Nolanites do. AND MOST OF ALL: I'll never deliberately hate on a movie just because I'm a pussy that want other movies to fail so my favorite franchise will succeed. Never. And I'll be at the opening day of TASM and TDKR just like I was at THE AVENGERS. Because I'm not an idiot and I'll hope for the best for these two movies. There's not just TDKR in the World, Nolanites.
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May 15, 2012, 10:56 p.m. CST
yes I'm hating on this but let's observe a few points here....
by darthSaul666
1. do you remember the No CGI buzzing before? Yeah that was bullshit... 2. more authentic Spidey... Bullshit too... The backstory is quite mutilated to a version not recognizible to any real fan.... You know what forget the rights issue anyone see how Sony did this last quarter? I bet this flick may set a record for the most studio tampering.
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*Stop being pathetic. I was here when you tried the same thing with THE AVENGERS.* I haven't talked shit about the avengers. It doesn't look like something I'd be psyched about, but Marvel has a decent track record, and I've only seen a few people say it sucked. I still haven't been able to go watch it, but I definitely have a reason to give it a chance. Not so with TASM. Everything about it looks shit. *If there are plants here, it's the Nolanites, trying to sabotage this film because they're too pussy about this getting good reviews and WOM.* I'm not a Nolanite, and even if I was I would hardly be motivated to bad mouth another movie just because I was a fan of him. I'm bad-mouthing this movie because its bullshit. *This won't bomb.* Really? Weren't you just saying that we had no way of knowing whether it will bomb or not? Plant. *I'll never judge this movie before I've seen it. I'll never love a movie from trailers like Nolanites do.* You are right now you dickwad. Of course you probably aren't really. It's just your job to pretend that you love it, right? *And I'll be at the opening day of TASM and TDKR just like I was at THE AVENGERS. Because I'm not an idiot and I'll hope for the best for these two movies.* FUCKING PLANT
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what in the FUCK are you talking about? It ran for over a decade with Peter Parker and was one the continually best reviewed comic series during it's entire run. On top of that, it's still in print now. It was never, ever cancelled. It's still running now, with a new Spider-Man, and it's still one of the best reviewed comics every month. Just saying, you have no fucking idea what you're talking about.
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Lol. Look me up at boxoffice forums, fool. I'm not hiding myself, I'm not a plant. I'm rooting for TASM and TDKR, but Spidey is my favorite character. I find the comcept of being paid for writing stuff things on talkback hillarious. Api don't think we have plants here. Just stupid nolanites acting as hate plants. Nothing novel. And when I was talking about Nolanites hating on Avengers and one in particular hating on Avengerd to this week say he loves it and this bomb, I wasn't talking directly to you, asshole. I was talking in broad terms. Anyway, go Spidey and Batman, please don't suck as your last movies.
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I don't really understand all the hate on this either, this actually doesn't look THAT bad. And I understand why Sony had to reboot this thing after the atrocity that was Spiderman 3, I really don't think there was room for another Spidey story with Tobey, Dunst and Co. Tobey is now damn near 40 even though he doesn't look a day over 16, and honestly Garfield is an incredibly better actor than Tobey and I'm looking forward to seeing what he'll bring to this. It seems that most of the big action scenes take place at night, Lizard looks pretty cool, the scene with the car thief was hilarious, I actually kinda wish they didn't spoil that "knife" line in the trailer cause i'm sure that will get a great response with the big crowds, Webb is a great storyteller, 500 days was a fantastic movie. And again, I would bet my life savings that this will be better than Spidey 3(one of the worst movies ever made), and Harry excusing the Jazz scene as "playful" still boggles my mind to this day. So yea, I'll fetch out ten bucks to go see this, and no, not in 3D. My next 3D movie will be Avatar 2, or actually now that I think about it.........Pirahna 3DD Most anticipated of '12: Dark Knight Rises Django Unchained The Master
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May 16, 2012, 12:19 a.m. CST
CGI LOVERS: It isn't that people who complain should shut up and do it... It's that it shouldn't be done in the first place.
by MENTALDOMINANCE
A movie should stand on it's own and be storyboarded properly so that, without any f/x at all, it works. If you can make a movie good like that first then you are very careful as to what f/x you add in to spice it up. You don't want to add anything that doesn't work. Sure, blue screen from the 80's looked like crap but there have always been movies that look like crap. There were also a ton of great looking movies in the 70's and 80's that did it right - ALIEN, Blade Runner, Close Encounters - If they could do f/x correctly back then with ANALOG equipment then there is no excuse at all today for shit to stick out as an effect. ESPECIALLY when computer f/x are so bad when you notice them... A bad puppet at least when it stands out you can sometimes admire the worksmanship of it still but bad CGI? Not when all the kid running the computer needed to do was tick down a lever just a tad more so that something doesn't stick out or when all an editor needed to do was cut a little sooner as to not make it so obvious. Movies that rely on CGI are simply spectacle and in the case of spectacle, I want to see something spectacular! Obvious computer f/x are not spectaculer - I could hook my PS3 up to a big screen and get the same results. If your movie sucks so bad that the only thing people are ever going to get from it is an intake of spectacle then you'd better damn well make sure your fuckin' spectacle is spectacular. There is no excuse for obvious f/x. There is no excuse for not just lighting a real car on fire and really blowing it up for real. They did it in MAD MAX and they'll do it again in it's upcoming sequels as well as in countless other films... To use CGI in places it doesn't need to be used in is sheer laziness and I'm very happy audiences seem to be recognizing this and hating on it.
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May 16, 2012, 12:22 a.m. CST
AUDIENCES CAN TELL the difference between shit that's real and shit that's fake. We need to stop supporting lazy directors who point and click together their films.
by MENTALDOMINANCE
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for a film I don't give a shit about, I sure follow it a lot and boys, most lovers of the first films adore Kirsten, but throw all the stupid fag comments you need to prove you're hetero :-) I play with both hands personally
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*Lol. Look me up at boxoffice forums, fool. I'm not hiding myself, I'm not a plant. I'm rooting for TASM and TDKR, but Spidey is my favorite character.* Bullshit. You're a fucking plant. You've already contradicted yourself, claiming that you aren't judging the movie till you've seen it, then insisting its gonna be good and we should see it opening day. You suck at your job. *I find the comcept of being paid for writing stuff things on talkback hillarious. Api don't think we have plants here. Just stupid nolanites acting as hate plants. Nothing novel.* The fact that people are paid by marketing companies to promote movies on forums while posing as fans is well documented. So well documented, in fact, that for you to deny it just makes it obvious what you're up to. *And when I was talking about Nolanites hating on Avengers and one in particular hating on Avengerd to this week say he loves it and this bomb, I wasn't talking directly to you, asshole. I was talking in broad terms.* And your broad terms are an attempt to portray hatred of this movie as merely a facade for ulterior motives. Which isn't true in my case, nor is it true in many other cases. In fact I'm pretty sure that the Nolan zealots are probably in the extreme minority of both Nolan fans and haters of this movie. On the other hand there are very obvious financial incentives for talkbackers to heap false praise on this shit pile, and absolutely no reason to praise the movie on its actual merits. The existence of fuckers like you, working in jobs where you LIE for a living just makes me wanna boycott this movie even more.
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May 16, 2012, 4:45 a.m. CST
If your movie sucks so bad that the only thing people are ever going to get from it is an intake of spectacle then you'd better damn well make sure your fuckin' spectacle is spectacular.
by Winston Smith
AMEN!
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THIS looks like it was made for 8 year olds. I am truly mystified by the love for this here. I mean, 2012 looks like a great summer. THIS and Battleship, however, both look beyond terrible. And why is that whenever a new reboot comes out that all old versions suddenly suck? It happened with Burton's Batman films, and now Raimi's Spidey films. I guess that means soon we'll be calling X-2 utter cheesy crap as well?
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*I am truly mystified by the love for this here.* Let me demystify. It isn't real. Marketing companies hire people to go into talkbacks/forums and give positive reactions and criticize or even ridicule negative ones. One of their favorite lines is *you can't judge a movie till you've seen it*. Meaning that you need to see it, whether it looks good or not. That's a dead giveaway for a plant. Another one is to dismiss negative reactions as fanboy hate. Take a look at all of the *love* on display here and see if you don't notice some trends.
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May 16, 2012, 7:24 a.m. CST
Does anyone know if Norman Osborn makes an appearance in this movie? His company is featured in the movie. It seems onluy logical that there should be at least a mention of him.
by Mr. Pricklepants
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May 16, 2012, 8:20 a.m. CST
As a absolute hater of the Raimi spider-man, this looks like a major improvement.
by Dr_PepperSpray
At least the tone, and Spider-man's personality looks better. <P> Still I would have preferred to see the rights revert back to Marvel if for nothing else then to see the webslinger make an appearance in the next Avengers movie. Then again, I'd like to see all the marvel properties back under one roof again.
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May 16, 2012, 11:41 a.m. CST
I had no idea C Thomas Howell was in this. It just went from a Netflixer to not seeing this.
by Kremzeek
C Thomas Howell (as some other have pointed out) is one of the worst actors EVER in existence. He is TERRIBLE. I refuse to see this now. I was already on the fence with the casting and planned to Netflix this. But now... fuck this. Terrible. Just awful. And, no, my fellow nerds - I will NOT see it in theatres anyway. I'm not one of those lowest common denominator movie-goers. If I say I won't see it in the theatre, that's exactly what I fucking mean. I'll back up the group calling this "the reboot nobody cares about". I'm definitely in that camp now. C Thomas Howell... fuck the fuck right off. Who was in charge of casting this shit? Really sad.
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Spidey is so much better than TOBY (I loved how he doesn't blink for 3 movies). As Peter he is a new york kid, who's a geek. he's not a fucking comic book stereotype from the sixties. Raimi never had any sort of connection with reality when he did those movies. Spidey fucking talks in this you hater fucks! and says more than "MARY JAAAAANE" Taking the mask off for the kid? touching as shit. got me choked up. Why? because if I didn't know who spiderman was, I would climb out of a burning car for him. Taking the mask off make the scene mean something. CGI looks shit? give me a break. Flames look terrible in everything. let it go. This is so much better than everything I've seen from Raimi (except for Doc Ock) but no more hippy doctors, stressed out power loss, KIRSTEN DUNST looking burnt out in all 3 movies. If you guys want a comic book movie that goes into space, keep reading your comics. I want a movie that does a character justice, and this one delivers that in every trailer I've seen, Dubstep or not.
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How would any director realize something like the pod race in ep1 or Hulk in Avengers without cgi? Some things are not possible without it. We know it's not real. We suspend our disbelief. <p> As a kid in the back of my mind I knew the boulder Indiana Jones was running from was probably paper mache and as light as a beach ball. I went with it. <p> Tron looked like glow in the dark light sticks. I went with it.<p> Vermithrax from Dragonslayer was obviously stop-motion animation. I went with it.<p> Plus, it's cheaper, quicker and safer to go the cgi route in most cases.<p> You purists are so inflexible.
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May 16, 2012, 1:21 p.m. CST
And say what you want about Raimi's organic web shooters, but
by Kremzeek
it sure makes a hell of a lot more sense. I've never understood if he's SPIDER-Man... why would he need to make mechanical webshooters? Wouldn't he be able to... you know, shoot webs... kinda like, say... a SPIDER? So, hate on Raimi all you guys want (btw, Spidey 1 was great - quit with the revisionist history hating), but he took a few liberties (just like Nolan has) with the character that make sense. And, my last post aside, I really don't want a Spider-Man movie to fail. I wish this did look great... but it just doesn't. I just can't muster up any excitement for this at all. Wrong summer. Wrong cast (especially Sheen, Field, Leary, and Howell). Too soon to reboot. Won't see it.
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I have a feeling that's who is talking to Conner's about Peter (tho we never get to see his face) about his parents.
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May 16, 2012, 1:55 p.m. CST
Bucketbrain, and you hater morons wouldn't know at good movie if it banged you mom
by ShakaLaka Lambo
First off stop using brains name, it doesn't make you look cool or relevant it just insults Buckethead since he's talented (and from reading your post your ..well lets keep his civil a dipshit). Second, everyone of you haters were blowing up the forums when the Mighty Morphin Power Goblin came out. You called Raimi a heretic for the organic webs, you moaned and complained about "there's NO GWEN" But NOW you complain because Webb fixed all that. Your like a preschool class who doesn't get to finger paint when you want to, or when your teacher tells you it's Nap time. You morons give us all a bad name. Hey Kremzeek or whatever your stupid name on here is SPIDEY 1 was NOT great and if you think it was your the dumbest italian since NERO. How about the pumpkin bomb that vaporized the OsCorp board of directors ? POOF! Down to bones and then dust! But MJ was right beside them! Gimme a break. You pre teens haven't read a classic comic of spidey in your lives, you have no Idea what makes a great film. Heres the proof .... you're bashing ASPM but you haven't a word to say about Nolan casting the devil's prada Anne Hatthaway as CatWoman???? Get lost losers leave the Spidey Posts to the real Spidey Fans and we will judge it when we SEE IT
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You don't know me or what I was thinking when Spidey 1 came out. The organics made way more sense. I never complained about the Goblin. The casting in the Raimi's films was spectacular (with the exception of Dunst - who I actually like as an actress, but she was all wrong for MJ). And I actually *am* Italian. HAHA. Am I the dumbest one? Who know? Could be. But it doesn't change that this new Spidey movie just looks "blah" to me. I really truly wish it looked GREAT, but nope. Not spending me money on this. And I like Hathaway and think she's gonna be grea as Catwoman... so, yeah. Whatever, my friend. To each their own.
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May 16, 2012, 2:08 p.m. CST
*who know = who knows* Maybe I get the "dumbest Italian" award after all! =)
by Kremzeek
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May 16, 2012, 2:21 p.m. CST
Just refer to the build up of John Carter..Life span = 1 maybe 2 weeks
by DARKJEDI
THis wont do any better, especially after reviews and word of mouth...It has 1 weekend to make money and that it... Even in its first weekend, it may not beat out Brave or GI Joe...Hell Prometheus may still have some tough traction still In its 2nd weekend..the Adults will see Ted, and the kids will see Ice Age..... and its 3rd weekend..it will be a cellar dweller when TDKR comes out
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May 16, 2012, 2:28 p.m. CST
Oh, and one last thing and a question, m. night shakalakalamadindong:
by Kremzeek
My name comes from the '80s Transformers cartoon. I'm not pre-teen. I'm in my mid-30s. I'll admit I've been a Batman fanatic since I was 3 and am not as married to the Marvel universe as I am to DC, BUT - I've been a Spidey fan since I started collecting comics back in 1990 (only collected for 2-3 years, but it was cool). So, while my Spidey fandom may not have as many years stacked up as my Batman fandom, I'm still pretty damned familiar with the character. That said, you were spending so much time yelling about how stupid I am that you never answered my question: I sincerely want to know why if he's SPIDER-Man, he can't do whatever a spider can! Tell me how that makes sense. I sincerely want to know from a "true" Spidey fan's PoV.
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May 16, 2012, 8:52 p.m. CST
Nolanites are the scum of the Earth and I hope this is the sleeper hit while TDKR BOMBS. Hard. That's what you deserve, trolls.
by Jack
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NO FUCKIN SHIT, IF ANYONE WHO LOVES MOVIES IS A PLANT, THEN THIS TALKBACK MUST BE THE PITS. CERTAINLY NOT A LOT OF FILM LOVERS HERE, JUST HATERS, VIRGINS, JEEZING, FAT, WANKING HATERS
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I just cannot bring myself to sit through another fucking Spider-Man origin story. I've seen it done in comics a couple times. Watched it with a live-action tv show. Saw a few cartoon series do it. A LOT of cartoon series. Played it with a few video games. Toughed out the original Spider-Man movie. Just can't fucking do it again. I'll see this movie, but I'll see it when I can fast forward through the shit I don't want to see for the 98th time. http://batstud.blogspot.com/
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Congratulations Sony. I'd have thought that impossible.
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