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AMAZING SPIDER-MAN introduces us to Curt Connors & The Lizard
Hey folks, Harry here... I don't know about you, but I'm actually quite excited about seeing THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN. The film's Lizard is definitely not my primary design choice, but in a weird way - it is actually closer to the really real original design than I think most would think.
See - Snub faced LIZARD and that's actually the very first time ever that anyone ever saw this character. THE LIZARD first appeared in AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #6 and that's the cover. You may also notice a lack of Lab Coat, well actually, the colorist or publisher thought Purple would be a good color for Green on the cover, but right inside, you'll see he's got the traditional White Lab Coat.
Now - here's the YouTube video introducing us to this "new cinematic" Spidey Bad Guy.
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Still not sure about this movie. I don't really buy Garfield as Parker. And what's up with the Good Will Hunting scene.
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May 13, 2012, 2:52 a.m. CST
My feeling is that this will exceed expectations, and not just low expectations. At the least, web slinging in 3-D should be fab.
by justmyluck
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As I've said before, the character design changed through the years of Spidey, and this article here proves that. So shut the fuck up you pathetic whiners. You can't fucking know if this is going to be a bad movie or not, UNTIL YOU'VE SEEN IT! Goddamn stupid motherfucking fuckers.
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Still seems like a low-budget SpiderMan movie...which might not be a bad thing...we'll see I guess.
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haters gonna hate.
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Sony will look back at this as a misstep. There were several elements of the Raimi films that actually worked. J.K Simmons for instance. Having him in a continuing franchise is similar to the thinking in the Bond was the way to go. They changed the lead but kept the supporting cast There is a great cast in this movie but some of the creative choices may well hamper the box office
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ASM deserves more success than SM3. Nuff said.
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FINALLY!!!
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May 13, 2012, 3:04 a.m. CST
Saw one still of RHINO in a French magazine announcing the movie.
by Franck
I checked, and Rhino will be in the video game. But the picture I saw was movie, not video game quality, and they presented Rhino as Spiderman's main opponent. Am I just behind in the news?
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You can fucking READ about it in the making of book... They had a totally different script and villain in Vulture until... Suits who thought dipshits only wanted Venom so they made Raimi work it into the final movie.
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May 13, 2012, 3:08 a.m. CST
Secondly this movie is for tweens and the Twilight crowd...
by Andrew Coleman
It's why they set it back in high school. It's why they set it all at night to be "edgy" and to cut down costs. It's why they made the Lizard all wrong by making Connors an authority figure. "You want the truth Peter, come and get it..." That one line proves they really don't fucking get it. Spider-man instead of feeling guilt over not doing the right thing with his abilities... Instead just has daddy issues. This movie is for fucking tweens. Frankly it's a great idea. But since I'm a real Spidey fan it's not for me.
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Who gives a shit about this movie Prometheus is rated R and will make this movie suck a bag of lizard dicks.
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May 13, 2012, 3:20 a.m. CST
Yeah myphdisdoom, how dare they make Dr. Connors a bad person?
by Nerd Rage
That would like making Dr. Octavious a good person! Oh wait.
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The lack of snout on the new movie Lizard - and his being green - seem to be the only things he has in common with that Ditko version. Anyway, Romita's Lizard (and Peter, and Gwen) were way better drawn than Ditko's. Just sayin'...
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He deserves more credit for SM3 than any other Spider-man movie.
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Or is he only going to be in the video game?
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...and Cabin was a ton of fun. I'll give you The Raid though, it was fun and had its moments, but as a whole, best action film in decades? FUCK THAT HYPERBOLIC SHIT. It ain't even the best action film of 2012.
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of this. I got tired of Raimi's version by the SM3. Apart from flourishes in SM2 he never really let himself go with the franchise. I'm giving this one a chance. No more organic webshooters, Emo Pete, and a lame Sarah Jane. Remember that Raimi did no real justice to the Green Gobli; in fact he made the character really ineffective.
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You need to step away from the Sam Raimi kool aid.
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How many fucking pain pills did you pop before you wrote these EIGHT LINES of text?? It's honestly incoherent. Tell me what's wrong with this: "Hey folks, Harry here... I don't know about you, but I'm actually quite excited about seeing THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN. It is definitely not my primary design choice, but in a weird way - it is actually closer to the really real original design than I think most would think." What's not your primary design choice? The Lizard? Because you didn't mention Lizard until after the image of the comic book. So i was kinda confused. I thought you were speaking about the Art Direction of the film, or perhaps the tonal choices we've seen in the trailers and snippets. Ok...how about this next part: See - Snub faced LIZARD and that's actually the very first time ever that anyone ever saw this character. THE LIZARD first appeared in AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #6 and that's the cover. You may also notice a loack of Lab Coat, well actually, the colorist or publisher thought Purple would be a good color for Green on the cover, but right inside, you'll see he's got the traditional White Lab Coat. What? What the hell does that first sentence even mean? Also, you used the word "ever" twice in the span of four words. "Loack?" Your third "sentence" is definitely suffering from some grammar & punctuation issues. "Loack of lab coat, well, actually..." Are you kidding me? I mean... know what you're trying to say, but your execution is sloppy...just like the script of "Dark Shadows." Here's all i'm saying: You published this at 2:43, Austin-time. There's no reason that this couldn't wait until morning. It's not Breaking News. It's really just sort of an opinion piece, with a new clip. It could've waited. But, apparently you were just SO EXCITED about this that you couldn't wait, and instead of posting something on your site that was worth a shit, you knocked yourself down a peg or two. Come on, man. Think strategically. Not worth it.
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Have you even seen 5% of the movie?
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May 13, 2012, 4:28 a.m. CST
Quit with the weak attempt at explaining away the movie design.
by Bedknobs and Boomsticks
He has a snout just a few issues after Ditko left. http://www.coverbrowser.com/covers/amazing-spider-man Romita Lizard is the iconic version, as he drew more issues with the character.
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I still think that spiderman 3 despite being a huge earner left a sour taste in most moviegoers and they will not rush back for this movie. Spidey 2 was excellent, and made us as movie goers / fans want to be first in the line to see spidey 3. That film was utterly miserable. Harry seemed to like it though. I thought it was a turd. I think my claim to fame was naming him emo spidey in that particular article. Anyhow 1) i still got the sour taste. 2) Still think a reboot is too soon. 3) I have never been down with the peters parents storyline. Nor do i think most movie goers are who are not necessarily comic book fans but know of his origins through cartoons, movies pop culture etc.. Peters parents out of the picture defined him, its what made Uncles Bens death poignant. mess with that. It aint spidey.
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http://www.aintitcool.com/node/32530
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My Red Lantern Ring any moment now.
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May 13, 2012, 5 a.m. CST
I'm eating red meat smothered in barbeque right now, and I like how this is looking real good.
by CodeName
Loving how the Lizard is filling my Darkman urges, even though Raimi is off this project. Could it be that Webb is subconsciously channeling Raimi's dark hero in the Lizard? This looks good.
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from a low budget Spiderman flick. Penny pinching assholes.
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9 out of 10 people are going to know who it is anyway but dammit if I'm still not over Dylan Baker not getting his moment to shine.
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"Hey, gang, Harry here - just got bak from driving my Hoveraround to and from the Alamo where Peter Jackson, Guillermo del Toro and me sat around talking about the the good old days when we couldn't see our penises while going to the bathroom - and then - I found this article about Rhys Ifans as 'the Lizard' in the new Spider-Man movie!</p><p> Now, I know what some of you are saying - the Lizrd looks like a mongoloid eight year old melted a green Crayon over a Six Million Dollar Man action figure and carved a spooky face in it - but when your an eight year old mongoloid and somebody gives you a lighter - well - let's just say Sony paid me a lot of money to tell you how kick-ass the Liazard is!</p><p> First of all, this design isn't as think you as you think it think is! Here's a comic book cover. You can see how the Lizard in this comic book also has scales. That's why they did it in the movie. I was rading this comic over at Robert Rodriguez's house last night and we both agreed it was the best way to go - Robert as playing guitar and directing a kick-ass, balls-to-the-knockle Machete sequel - so, if he's happy, I'm happy. Make mind Marvel!"
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Made my head hurt,serious eye strain during the swinging through the City scenes,first time i've experienced it actually......
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I didn't have any faith in Marc Webb. I didn't think 500 Days of Summmer was that good, and I didn't understand how he got the Spider-Man gig. Then I heard it's based on Ultimate Spider-Man, which again, I didn't like. And then I saw the fact of Lizard. So for me, it's hard to be excited about this. My expectation are very low. So hopefully it's be at least decent. I doubt anyone is expecting to be blown away and feel it's the best Spider-Man movie ever.
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or does Marc Webb look like Adam Baldwin?
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May 13, 2012, 6:19 a.m. CST
I checked on Rhino, more likely on the sequel. But check the link, I'll take this Rhino over Lizard every day.
by Franck
http://fr.eonline.com/news/amazing_spider-man_toys/311563
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There's no way they sat there and said "let's use a really old and dated Lizard design" in a movie designed to 'modernise' and 'contemporise' the Spidey franchise, especially when you look at the lengths they went to mess with the Spidey suit.
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a yank accent in other vids i've seen, now he's english?
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May 13, 2012, 6:33 a.m. CST
Nobody wants to see this. Nobody cares. The target audience (kids) don't even care.
by NeonFrisbee
I'm a teacher, and my students, both boys and girls (ranging from 10-13), love superheroes. The kids who saw Avengers unanimously loved it. None of them, on the other hand, NONE of them, are interested in this Spider-Man reboot. I asked them why they didn't want to see it? Answers ranged from not liking the new guy ("He's not even the real Peter Parker!") to not wanting to see the origin all over again ("They just did that story! I don't want to see the same thing again. That's stupid!" Another: "I have all of them at home on dvd. I'll just watch them whenever I want to.") I'm not sure who Sony thinks wants to see this, or will see it, but it's nobody I know. Maybe it'll sweep up in Pakistan?
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With the Avengers kicking ass and the Dark knight awaiting to clean house, I believe this is going to be the sleeper of summer. There is something about it I think that is going to be better than the Raimi films
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And makes Kraven the genetic cross-species scientist?
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May 13, 2012, 7:11 a.m. CST
Hey neonfrisbee guess what people do want to see this movie just because your stupid kids don't doesn't mean others don't want to see it.
by freddofett
My little brothers who are 10 and 13 want to see it and all my friends who are college age want to see it and it looks a hell of a lot better than most things coming out this year.
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...that people aren't going to see this movie. It looks neat. It's a SPIDER-MAN movie. People will see it. And, you know what? All of you who are constantly bombarding this (or any other, really) movie with all of your complaint-bombs which, really, are just an excuse to see your own type (it's like loving the sound of your own voice) will be there too. On day one. I guarantee it. Because you LIVE to complain about this stuff. It's pathetic. So, I'll see you all there.
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yeah, yeah... pretty crappy
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I think this film has a pretty solid chance of being very good. It's just that I have no interest whatsoever in seeing it. It's very odd.
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...but film still looks lousy. The big problem for me is the hip, streetwise, Peter Parker. Aint the Spidey I grew up with. Nothing against a little updating, but a lot of the qualities intrinsic to the character seem to have been removed. Just looks too self-conscious and needlessly dark. Spidey benefits from a bit of that 60's goofiness. As flawed as Raimi's films were, at least he understood that...
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The movie looks great. Haters gonna hate.
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Rhys Ifans is normally an energetic crazy guy in interviews but even he looks absolutely bored when talking about this turkey. That shot of him with the CGI lizard half face being followed by a swishy CGI tail - WEAK! Looks like utter shit.
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May 13, 2012, 8:24 a.m. CST
I think it's a great idea to give the same character to multiple directors
by SithMenace
That way you get different cinematic takes on the same character, and I think it keeps it fresh. I loved the first two of Raimi's films, and now we get a completely new vision from someone who looks like he may get the character. Mechanical shooters, smart ass remarks, introducing Oscorp for a full film or two before bringing the Goblin in, it seems like they're trying to do the right things here. I have no problem with giving directors a crack at bringing their vision to the screen for the same superheroes. Burton got a couple of Batman films, then Schumacher, then Nolan. Some were (way) better than others, and I'm looking forward to seeing a different director's take on Batman after Nolan finishes his trilogy. I wish it were the same with Transformers. Bay got his shot at 3 films, now hand it over to someone completely different and see what they do with it, for better or worse. Also, I wish Singer would have finished his X-Men trilogy, then handed it over to a new director for a reboot.
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May 13, 2012, 8:29 a.m. CST
Now with the characters owned by Marvel, it's a different story
by SithMenace
Marvel has a real shot at building a movie version of their comic universe, and in that situation endless reboots and changes in characters would only hurt it.
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I'm sure it will be fine and all, but ultimately I think it will be forgotten. And coming in the middle of Avengers and TDKR is doing it no favors.
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...you know nothing of movies. Nothing.
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I feel sorry for you, your siblings, and your alleged friends.
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You want bad, watch Immortals.
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May 13, 2012, 9:07 a.m. CST
I never would have imagined being more excited for this than TDKR
by fanboy71
Yet, here I sit weighing a very well casted Spider-Man movie that actually has Gwen Stacey in it (like Raimi's should have) vs a 5'9" Mini Bane who looks like he is eating a large spider.
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May 13, 2012, 9:08 a.m. CST
Yeah, we met Curt. We met 3 times. Perhaps you don't remember
by gridlockd
We were introduced during at the Raimi's trilogy. We spent 6 hours together and you never became the freakin' Lizard. Well, I'm sorry it's too late to try to make it up to us now.
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way back in kindergarten! I used to take off his lab coat and pretend he was Godzilla!
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Is a time honored nerd tradition, one that frequently makes them look like a complete jackass once the film is released.
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May 13, 2012, 9:38 a.m. CST
Rhys Ifans - watch him as The Lizard then go watch him in "Notting Hill" and try to convince yourself its the same person. Good luck.
by jawsfan
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May 13, 2012, 9:39 a.m. CST
My first reaction upon hearing Marc Webb would reboot "Spider-Man": "What? ANOTHER Spider-Man movie? Give it a rest already!"
by jawsfan
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May 13, 2012, 9:40 a.m. CST
One thing is for sure about "The Amazing Spider-Man": Either it will be good.......or it won't. Going out on a limb here.
by jawsfan
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May 13, 2012, 9:41 a.m. CST
Andrew Garfield as Peter Parker/Spider-Man. Drummer from Def Leppard as Curt Connors/The Lizard.
by jawsfan
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May 13, 2012, 9:57 a.m. CST
foetus: little FYI for you. You clearly are just now coming to the realization that society doesn't really exist. There is no one at the helm of society. So you've decided to turn away from what you think is society- hence
by UltraTron
you have not seen Avengers yet. Well buddy. If you can't find enjoyment from that experience in 3D IMAX just hang it up.
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May 13, 2012, 9:58 a.m. CST
"... it is actually closer to the really real original design than I think most would think."
by Freddy
You have a way with words man. You really make the reader fucking work for it.
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May 13, 2012, 9:59 a.m. CST
I can see how that would be challenging for you to read. I talk like galactus to ensure that my words penetrate your adamantium skulls
by UltraTron
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May 13, 2012, 10:02 a.m. CST
Immortals was a true B movie like Corman would have made. It's the Corman response to clash of the titans. It has fun scenes of gods exploding mortals
by UltraTron
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May 13, 2012, 10:16 a.m. CST
I lost interest when the director said *I'm creating a movie, not a comic book*
by glenn_the_frog
In pretty much every interview, he gets asked *why does the lizard not have a snout?* and basically his response, every time, is *Yeah, that's too much work. Those Pixar guys are good at getting expressive CGI, but I just want a human performance in the lizard to come through.* Shows a real lack of creativity and enthusiasm. http://www.webcitation.org/67Q4HenJy And *making a movie, not a comic book* in a single sentence sends ALL the wrong signals. The guy didn't even grow up on the character, knew nothing about him until coming onto the movie. Toss in Emma Stone (Gwen Stacy), Denis Leary (Captain Stacy), & Martin Sheen (Ben Parker) were quoted as either *not knowing much* or *anything* about the Spider-Man mythos outside of Sam Raimi's Film Series....
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May 13, 2012, 10:18 a.m. CST
Rami fell into the relationships trap in his 3 movies. SuperHeroes Fight Bad Guys. If they love somebody, let 'em do it offscreen. Capisch?
by planetran_fan
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Because it shows the director has a very bad mentality to the movie. It shows that the director does not know or care about the world and characters which are pretty much iconic. It shows that director is less interested in translating the comics into the big screen and being faithful to the comics and the fans and more interested in squeezing his own "artistic vision" and he doesn't care how he mutilates the world and the characters to do it. It shows he doesn't understand the world and how the characters fit into it, the tone the movie should take, the fundamentals needed to make a good comic book movie. Basically it shows he doesn't give a shit. Many an adaptation has gone bad because of this lack of understanding. Because they don't understand it, they try hard to inject elements into the movie to try and make sense of it. They're ashamed of this "cartoony" show they're working with and try to force plot contrivances to try and make it more "adult-like". And in the end, we get a completely unrecognizable product that is nothing like the original we all love and care about. We get a Super Mario Brothers movie where Mario and Luigi are father and son and have to fight Dennis Hopper in an alternate universe run by dinosaurs in a modern day city. It's this attempt at rationalization that gives shitty adaptations more than anything else. Just stick to the material, take it for what it is and don't take it seriously, you can't take it seriously. You have a guy swinging around New York in rubber tights, the first mistake you do is taking it seriously. You need to accept it for what it is and have fun with it, that's the whole point of the movie. It's why Avengers was so great because it knew what it was, it swam in it and gave an incredible experience because of it. Now I'm not saying this movie is gonna suck, it might be great. The director might have done a good amount of research or he was competent enough in filming an effective and well-put together movie even if not too faithful. We'll see. I'm merely explaining the reasoning why we're getting a little anxious about these comments we're getting about how he's trying to make a "serious" movie. And I want this movie to succeed, we need a good Spider-Man movie after 3
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the last one made nearly a billion dollars worldwide. Spidey is an established franchise character. Like Iron Man, he's going to around a long time, following in the pattern of the Bond films. And personally, I think this looks very good. It'll probably end up being better than Spidey 1 & 3, but not 2, but then, I'll actually wait to *see* it before making a real judgement, unlike so many people here...
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It's great that the web shooters are back; It's great that Gwen is the "first" love; However... 1) it makes no sense to change the suit 2) Based on the clips, Garfield's Parker seems wrong (over-acting???; no ID??) 3) Changing the origin was unnecessary and stupid 4) Unlike the narration in the trailer, Parker NEVER wondered about his (biological) parents. It adds up to "stay home".
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That "really real" sentence was a complete abortion and you know it. Defending Harry will not get you free tickets to anything. He's used to criticism, and mine has the value of not being personal, or about physical appearance. I just think if you're going to write for a living you should give a *lot* of thought to the readability of a sentence. Fucking sue me, dude.
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Galactus's pen was mightier than his sword.
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I don't know how to describe what I'm seeing. Does anyone? He doesn't appear to have thoughts behind his words? Or he seems one-dimensional? No real reflection?
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...ret-con crap...this movies is going to suck sweaty spider balls...this is so stupid...of COURSE Peter's dad was a uber scientist who of course new the lizard guy at Oscorp...crap...crap...steaming pile of corn-infested crap...
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Fuck these whiny nerds and their snout complaints.
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Some of it does look good, I love the webshooters, I do think Garfield was a good choice as Spidey and theres practical stunt work. However I dont like this whole parent business, the tone that seems to have been set for Connors and the fact (with the exception of the cop scene) he has his mask off again by the end of the flick. One thing I hope they dont do is kill off Connors as the biggest problem I had with Raimi's 1st 2 movies was the fact that they killed the villain off! As for Raimi's trilogy, I like the the first 2 but McGuire was PP, he was a bit miscast and as for MJ, not only was she not written that well but Kirsten Dunst was so not MJ plus I may add that she has the saggiest tits ive seen! As for SM3, as far as I know it was contracted that Venom must appear in at least one of the movies, so he was a forced character that Raimi had no love for. What shouldve happened was he rips off the suit later in the film at the church, then the last scene should go back and we see Venom created. That way he couldve been the main villian in SM4 and Raimi could be replaced with a director who would do the character Justice.
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See? He gets it. http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=287646 As for this movie.....Black crotch. Silver slippers. Blinky lights. Netflix.
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"Whoops. Did I say Harry? I meant... I meant Peter."
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to poop on this. I'd rather spend my money to see the Avengers again.
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May 13, 2012, 11:20 a.m. CST
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by Brad Elmore
Look, I know this is spam. But I've been coming here since before gordon had a beer and cheated on his wife, and before Kiera Knightly was a sexy tomboy beanpole. I made a film. For 10 grand. Its up for free on YOUTUBE in glorious 1080P. All I ask is that you give it a shot. I can best describe it as white trash Shakespeare. Its a grim little character drama about a heavy metal loving/guitar shredding meth dealer and his flunky cousin who inhabit a trailer in central oregon. It's called THE WOLFMAN's HAMMER. You can see the trailer here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfKochjSsus and the full film here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjLWrxRlmXE I know this is a hustle but it's an honest one. I'm 26 years old and this is my first feature film and I can guarantee that it's one of the best looking, most emotionally effective movies made for that budget. Thanks and take care, -Brad
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"Neeeed mooore Goooold" I'll never forget his motivation from the old animated series. Ultimately, he's just another thug. I dont have an opinion on this film, just gonna wait and see. In the mean time, hater's gonna hate.
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"Its like this from the comic" "I just want to see a Spider-Man movie" ETC. Nothing but excuses. Remember, if you ever think or say something that might be considered negative, the baby Jesus cries. I retract my subject: AICNmoviestudiomarketingfirm.com
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May 13, 2012, 11:54 a.m. CST
Summer Belongs To The Avengers And Batman / Not Excited For Spidey
by THX1968
Not excited at all. I think the last preview looked cool, but this isn't Spider-Man to me. It sure as hell isn't a Peter Parker I can relate to. That was the most important thing about Peter Parker - everyone can relate to that guy... everyone. Looking at and listening to Garfield Parker, I just don't relate at all. The Spidey costume looks terrible, but I'm cool with the way the Lizard looks - by far the most intriguing aspect of this movie. I could give a shit about mechanical web-shooters, but for all the bitching, no one mentioned the Spider Light on his utility belt! That's what I wanna see, the fuckin' Spidey light and a utility belt! That's what'll make this pile work.
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Keep it up. What most of you you fail to comprehend is that this site gets more page views when he writes badly. You pad his site stats and advertising revenues nicely. Harry is smarter than you guys realize and he makes money off your badgering. Actually, I enjoy the comments better than any of the writers' articles on this site (Still miss Massy though). Keep up the good work, Harry...
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He actually had a handle on proper grammar.
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May 13, 2012, 12:03 p.m. CST
Didn't watch this footage. SM3 left a bad taste in my mouth and I think ASM will wash it out
by Autodidact
.. so I've cut off spoilers. The look of the action will hopefully override all the melodrama that will surely ensue from the involvement of Peter's parents.
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...and I'm impressed. I plan on watching the film later tonight. Have you tried contacting a mod/writer here on AICN? I imagine they would be pleased that a talkbacker finally put his money where his mouth is. After all, "if you think you can do better, than make your own movie" (or some variation thereof) is a common mantra on these boards. Good Luck and Congratulations on finishing a feature.
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Thank you so much. You just made my whole day man. Really. I actually have contacted one of the writers here. I don't expect a reply but I would be grateful for one. All I'm asking is people give it a shot.
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May 13, 2012, 12:36 p.m. CST
Stop watching movies, and just make your own, Foetus. So that we can mercilessly incinerate it before we've ever seen it, you snivveling twit.
by Paulisius
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Dude I'm going to watch your movie and comment. Seriously, well done for doing something with yourself. Looking forward to it.
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May 13, 2012, 1:08 p.m. CST
plus I liked the shot of the hotties and the real feel of everything! I work up in Northern Canada oilpatch where people make too much money and party there asses off
by Lloyd Fenton
A lot of the cast looks like co-workers and people I know
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May 13, 2012, 1:12 p.m. CST
jawsfan: Totally agree about Ifans. Hell, he looks and sounds like David Warner in that clip!
by tom
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May 13, 2012, 1:14 p.m. CST
I liked that trailer, Mr. Elmore. I'm watching it in about half an hour (gotta get a Subway sammich first, though). Good on ya!
by tom
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But I don't.
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Seriously keep it coming, negative or positive. I'm happy that you guys are taking the time to check it out. @Riprat I was definitely, painstakingly and respectfully trying to capture an authenticity, and knew the subject matter fit the budget and I come from a very blue collar background myself, so it pleases me when somebody notices that in any way. @Alakazam Thank you and much respect your way. I anxiously await your thoughts. @Theveryfirst Thanks. Look forward to hearing what you have to say, honestly I do. I know the film isn't without its faults and demerits, but I stand by it. It is what it is. Live, work, do better next time. -Brad
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"...it's growing on me." Heh.
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May 13, 2012, 2:17 p.m. CST
It's fine to like this version of the Lizard. It's not fine to say it's authentic to the original Ditko design, or even closer to it.
by kevred
The face of each is flatter than the iconic Romita version. That's the only similarity. The form of the face and the overall body are utterly different. Ditko's design is the head of a lizard. There are many lizards with nearly-flat faces or very short snouts. This movie's design is a plainly human head with lizardy texture applied to it (and more than a little Voldemort). So it's not wrong for anyone to like it; that's person preference. But it ain't in any way authentic to anything.
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I will defintiely check it out and give you my opinion. Congrats on what you've done!!
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seems a bit hyperbolic, even for Stan Lee.
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I'm about to give it it's due and watch it, because unlike many of the shit talkers who wade around here on a daily basis, you are putting your balls and your cards on the table. That's what a man does. I'll let you know if I dig your work. And even if I don't, you tell me to fuck right off and keep doing it until no one can question you.
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Just watched the trailer and I am impressed. I will watch the full film in the next couple of days.
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So many buddies are coming!
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May 13, 2012, 2:36 p.m. CST
Check must have cleared. Now they're gonna be pimping this movie.
by Fritzlorrerains
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That type with such poor grammar and punctuation. Sony can fool plebs like them with this stupid movie.
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May 13, 2012, 2:56 p.m. CST
sithmenace, don't get too excited for Batman films post-Nolan
by Russell
because apparently he is still going to have his hooks in Warner Brothers for the time being and whoever does the following films. I'm sure it's because TDK made a billion dollars but I think it's the wrong decision creatively for him to be involved at all in any future Batman movies. He is still supposed to be some sort of producer and overseer on them. He should just walk away after TDKR and move on to other shit. I don't want new Batman movies to be as deplorable as Batman & Robin but I also don't think it's necessary for them to be as dead serious as the Nolan films are. I enjoyed Batman Begins and I thought TDK had parts in it that were absolutely mind-blowing and the jury is still out on TDKR. It seems like it might be trying to do too many things at once and the only real surprise would be if Nolan actually had the cajones to have Bane murder Bruce Wayne. It's never happened in any comic-book based film before and I would welcome it to actually see the bad guy win because people would discuss it forever.
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this still looks like ass. I cant say Ive seen anything that peaks my interest. I dont like the kid they got for spidey, what Ive seen of his attempt of webhead banter is way off, and all the Peter Parker scences look like Dawsons Creek footage without the soundtrack. He looks like a stereotypical douchebag thats trying real hard to be big eyed and "dreamy." I also gotta say Im particular to the organic web shooters. I know its not OG canon, but it makes way more sense than the alternative. Re-imaging the suit is fine, but the new one looks like NASA made it for the first lunar Olympics.
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The trailers sure aren't showing it.
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May 13, 2012, 3:08 p.m. CST
Yeah foetus just sounds like a sour old cunt that can't enjoy anytrhing except Casablanca and spams this talkback with his bullshit posts
by Russell
So shut the fuck up already and just go see The Avengers. Also, a lot of people out there aren't even going to know that TASM is a reboot because most people don't go on movie news websites every day like the rest of us. The majority out there is going to think it's just Spider-Man 4 and someone else is playing Peter Parker. It also has a new villain in The Lizard and it looks boring as hell. It also reeks of desperation on Sony's part that the fucking FIFTH trailer for this bullshit is being released on Monday and it's a 4 minute trailer and we all know how well that strategy worked out for John Carter. I really don't know what Sony was thinking releasing this a couple weeks before The Dark Knight Rises. They are undoubtedly shitting their pants over it because they know TASM is dead in the water on 7/3/12 and it will at best make $100 million by 7/20/12 if it's lucky.
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Went with a gang of like 10 friends. My first hint of trouble with the movie was the crane scene. The construction crane topples and crashes into a building, perching precariously, ripping floors off the corner offices. A cute secretary is in danger and Spidey swings in to the rescue! He swoops her up and swings off for the "hero worship moment" with the girl. My jaw dropped and I proclaimed under my breath to snickering friends "... Crane?!" It dropped to the street apparently, crushing dozens. Anyway. We all had a lot to say, especially toward the end, but I can relate that I havent had a WTF movie moment like Parker's bar dance scene since I watched the last half hour of AI. Very loudly 'someone' spoke out in the theater, with no regard for the other patrons, "What the fuck happened to the Spiderman movie we were watching?!" Although that got a pretty big laugh in the dead quiet theater, I cannot approve of shouting out shit during a movie. Id love to know just what the hell happened between SM2 and SM3, but just because the new Spidey wont be as bad as 3 doesn't mean it will be good.
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May 13, 2012, 3:23 p.m. CST
I'd rather watch a Spider Man reboot then the Dork Knight Can't Get It Up...
by iamatroll
Between Avengers and Spider Man, the Marvel Movie Franchises will see to it that Christian Bale can charleston his no talent ass onto the stage where a "Newsies" musical is rumoured to be in the works. Bottom line: the worst Spider Man movie ever is still light years ahead of any Chris "Hackman" Nolan piece of shite that can be served up to the 'tard fanboys. So there.
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on this one seems to be "break even and retain the rights." If they didnt hustle a new spidey movie out, the webhead would have gone home where he belongs.
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The actual film may or may not be good, but the trailers have not done a good job of making me *need* to see the darn thing. The selling points of "its another Spider-Man movie" and "The Untold Story" don't really do anything for me personally. As a longtime fan of the source material, I don't think that it's a good sign that I will wait for reviews before considering watching it. Hope the film will prove my reticence unwarranted.
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May 13, 2012, 3:40 p.m. CST
Gotta agree with johndalf, hope it bombs and Sony lets Spidey go back to Marvel studios...
by Lloyd Fenton
If it isn't done by Marvel Studios its CRAP! Fuck Sony and fuck Fox, let the characters go, you're killing them!
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Impressive. The first two acts were about as good as anything you would see in any independently produced drama out there today. Lead actor was pretty damn good, and I could see him doing more. Unfortunately, the pretty much nonexistent third act was a clear wasted opportunity to really drive home the perfect slow burn of the first and second acts. But, being that this is a first-time effort, I would argue that Brad Elmore is someone to look out for in the future. This is a talkbacker who backs his shit up, and for that, he gets more than a pass in my book.
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May 13, 2012, 3:42 p.m. CST
On a related note is Fantistic Four gonna revert back to Marvel anytime soon?
by Lloyd Fenton
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May 13, 2012, 4:09 p.m. CST
So will this be the 2nd most expensive ashcan film after X-Men Origins WOLVERINE?
by Russell
It is sad that this is only coming out so Sony can keep the rights to Spider-Man and it looks like very minimal effort went into the damn thing in the first place. $70 million budget, a stupid looking Lizard, a lame douche playing Parker, and re-telling the origin story and changing it at the same time for no reason. Add an arrogant director who is not even a fan of the comics and you have all the makings of another Daredevil or Star Trek Nemesis. When this rightfully bombs and they nix a sequel, hopefully Sony will give the rights back to Marvel so a decent and faithful Spidey flick can be made. This ain't gonna be one.
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enlighten us oh holy one
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inept. I mean, there is nothing in your post to validate your opinions, it just reeks of attention seeking. I don't know maybe you are articulate, intelligent and insightful. Are you going to write something that proves that? And what is the purpose of the blank spaces between your statements? Is that your idea of dramatic debate? At any rate good luck with all that...
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then again, I'm not sure what the budget on this thing is. Could be that Sony doesn't want to spend too much because, frankly, at this point it is obvious that the film is headed toward a dismal box office failure if it has any kind of high budget mark. Why? well....because the majority voice out there seems to be that people simply aren't interested in seeing another origin story, another return to high school, and especially so soon after they just DID that. Trolls aside, MOST people didn't overtly hate the McGuire Spidey movies. Most people LIKED them. Which is why they were SUCCESSFUL. If people had not liked them, only the first would have done well, and the second two would have flopped badly. Now, I'm sure this movie wont be anywhere near as bad as many of us think it will be...however...that doesn't change the fact that it is deemed unnecessary retreading by most of the target audience. I predict a mediocre box office take at best - this won't be any Avengers or Dark Knight. And Sony knows it.
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I Agree with most of the people here that expectatiOns are low. Not happy with peters parents being a focus, this is spiderman not batman. I love spiderman and Andrew Garfield does have "it." I've enjoyed every movie he has done. Where as j Jonah Jameson Was perfectly cast in raimi's spiderman, I wasn't blown away by anyone else, Kirstin dunst (who is a great actress in her own way) specifically was not the right girl to play MJ. Not curvy enough. Overall Everyone in this seems pretty well cast IMO
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The jig is up for superhero movies. It is. They tell the same lame story again and again. And again and again. And again. Think about it, lame from the very start, done again and again and again...and again. These movies look great and sound great and that is IT. The studios keep getting away with it because...the audiences for these films do not know better. I just attempted to sit through Xmen:First Class, expecting it to be a notch above the rest as everyone was saying. It starts out fine (thinking back on it it acutally didn't...) and about a half hour into it I was done. There they were, the Xmen kids outside the evil generals mansion, laying on the ground lined up in a row with binoculars getting ready to jump into action...utter childish BS that has been done a zillion million times FFS! Anyways, here we are, Spiderman re-booted, take a hint.
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May 13, 2012, 5:27 p.m. CST
HAHAHAHA!!! Alien 3... BWAAAA-HA-HA-HA!!! oh dear god...
by Lloyd Fenton
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May 13, 2012, 5:34 p.m. CST
You might want to say "IMO" foetus, cuz opioions are like assholes, you're one! lol
by Lloyd Fenton
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May 13, 2012, 5:48 p.m. CST
Hello riprat abortion clinic. You make 'em, we scrape 'em. No foetus can beat us. HAHAHAHAHAHA!
by Lloyd Fenton
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May 13, 2012, 5:52 p.m. CST
enhanced genetics? superhumane kinetics? muscle augmentation?
by nametaken
this looks like my work.
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In film, there are a number of genres. Each of these genres recycle a certain number of tried and true tropes in each of those films. Romance Westerns Dramas Action So on and so forth. But somehow, "the jig is up" on Superhero movies? Listening to some of you, it's a wonder how amusement parks or restaurants stay in business. I mean once you have rode the ride a couple of times, or eaten the same New York Strip...the jig is up and it's all lame. Fuck you if you like what you like, it's tired. So no more riding the Beast or Demon Drop...it's the same ride it's been for 20 years. Bacon Cheeseburgers? TIRED. How dare you eat that? Somehow, if someone likes something, it's their fault it exists? $1 billion in Avengers ticket sales can't be wrong. Ever. Atomic Crusader thinks that audiences don't know better. Really. What the fuck do you go to the movies for? It couldn't be entertainment, could it?? Sometimes that means you opt for the same old thing, because that same old thing is a comfort to you, and hey...it's your money...spend it how you want to spend it. Audiences have and always will vote with their dollars. Now or later. If they like dumpster diving within a genre...that's awesome, because that means that they have found something that they feel entertains them, not what you feel, as if your vote counts for more than one...because it doesn't. There is enough for everyone out there, be it the Superhero movie of the season, or The Artist, or The Raid. Something for EVERYONE. Don't be so superior that because something you don't like exists, you automatically mark it as wrong. That only makes you wrong, and your ostentatious opinions expendable.
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May 13, 2012, 6:01 p.m. CST
Wait, didn't foetus say he was going? He said see you later or something! HE'S A DAMN LYING BASTARD! WTF???!!!
by Lloyd Fenton
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May 13, 2012, 6:03 p.m. CST
The jig is up on porn, people are bored to death of the same old hot chick takes it up the ass.... uhhh no...
by Lloyd Fenton
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May 13, 2012, 6:05 p.m. CST
Despised and loathed, holy fuck, they are just movies. Give me Terminator 3 anyday over some critically acclaimed shit like The Story of Us! now that sucked
by Lloyd Fenton
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Check your copy of ASM #6, Harry (or your paperback reprint, like I just did). True dat, the Lizard didn't have a Gorn/Tyrannosaur face in the beginning. But compare the look in the book vs. the movie. The Ditko rendering is a very lizard-y, inhuman face, while the movie gives us a guy with a weird-looking and kinda green, but very HUMAN face. I'm not buying it. The latest trailer I saw in front of Avengers looks really good, and web-slinging in 3D is pretty awesome, but you know better than I do that you can cut a trailer to make shit on the sidewalk look like filet mignon on a silver platter. Ain't *entirely* makin' the call on this one here, but add this to light-up webshooters and emo-Parker 2.0, and I'm far less high on this reboot than you are.
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He's always in your uterus, rustling your jimmies.
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May 13, 2012, 6:32 p.m. CST
Screw the haters, this clip gave me some good hope for this flick
by DementedCaver
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May 13, 2012, 6:35 p.m. CST
Foetus, I'm actually 85-90% in agreement with you on your favs
by IceTitan
It's just too bad that you're such a dicksmack when voicing your opinions.
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May 13, 2012, 6:50 p.m. CST
Dear Mr.Webb, Why do you think The Avengers has the #1 BO receipts of ANY comic book movie..? Maybe it's because The Hulk LOOKS LIKE The Hulk...
by workshed
...now go and tell Sony to spend £50million on decent CGI to make The Lizard look like the character we know and love THEN, and only then, I might bother to spend £50+ taking my family to see this, otherwise it's X264 for me buddy. Kappish?!
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May 13, 2012, 6:52 p.m. CST
Oh, and can we get the CGI guys to turn Denis Leary into Bill Hicks...
by workshed
...cos I can't bear to look at that grave-robbing cunt-face fucker.
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From the bottom of my heart thank you. @thenotoriousdrb I consider that a fair review. Thank you. I personally LOVE the ending, but the length of the film was sort of dictated by budget, resources, but I wrote the script knowing that. I just wanted to get to the point, but its not for me to say whether I succeeded right or wrong, but for my viewing experience I personally prefer the last 10-15 minutes. @Mrlongbaugh Words I will take to heart, man. Thank you. If you like the film spread the word. Took a long time to get this made and it was rejected by quite a few Major festivals (which really killed my wallet in submissions) who consider low budget to be 300k. But putting it out for free and doing my own marketing seems to be doing well. I stand by my comments that, for its budget, it packs a wallup. I didn't come to waster anybodies time, I came to tell them a story that I felt compelled to share. thank you, thank you and a million times thank you. -Brad
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May 13, 2012, 7:05 p.m. CST
So the look of the character, not the clothes, or no labcoat, what you think they cheaped out on CGI by not adding a snout?? WTF are you saying, clarify
by Lloyd Fenton
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May 13, 2012, 7:07 p.m. CST
wait that's pounds so closer to 100 million, thats a lot of cash for a snout
by Lloyd Fenton
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May 13, 2012, 7:24 p.m. CST
Parents engineering the origin worked SO WELL in Hulk 2003...
by Immortal_Fish
...I doubt we'll be seeing any fat kids chest bumping in the parking lot after this one.
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May 13, 2012, 7:27 p.m. CST
Geek dislike of this movie makes about as much sense as the pre-emptive anger towards JOHN CARTER
by YackBacker
In that it makes no fucking sense whatsoever. Fellow geeks, stop playing Nostradamus and wait to see how this movie turns out. Guess what, you're not always right.
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May 13, 2012, 7:37 p.m. CST
You know the moon landing was faked dont you! ...but go ahead and argue about the MOVIES!!! WE're all doomed.
by Lloyd Fenton
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May 13, 2012, 7:43 p.m. CST
Will they also restore Spidey's costume to the way it originally appeared?
by Damian Neal
Just sayin'! Keep defending the lizard's look and it always comes back to the obvious. Spidey looks like s--t!
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I'm actually pretty excited to hear his first superhero work since 1991's "The Rocketeer." Of course it'll have rehashed cues galore which is par for the course for Horner, and in fact the music in this video, if it is his, sounds pretty generic, but if he can nail a solid theme for Spidey, then I'll be a happy camper. With perhaps the exception of "Captain America" there hasn't, in my opinion, been a truly outstanding superhero theme since Danny Elfman's "Batman" theme in 1989. Elfman's theme for Spidey was quite disappointing considering his work on the Burton films.
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I was about to conditionally agree with most of foetus' picks and pans when i noticed icetitan did the same... From the thread, it looks like foetus likes a good troll, which doesnt interest me, but ya gotta recognize decent taste in film and story.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6_XMwTwVms IT LOOKS BADASS!
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May 13, 2012, 9:11 p.m. CST
yackbacker youre exactly right. I didnt dislike JC until after i saw that mediocre mess.
by dahveed1972
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May 13, 2012, 9:16 p.m. CST
Once again, nerds don't understand the difference between a children's comic book and a movie
by Emperor_was_a_jerk
The reason the Lizard looks the way he does in the new movie is because in order to create a character that is relatable and can show identifiable emotion, the face must have human features. They want to make The Lizard sympathetic and that is impossible to do if he just looks like a giant animal. He must have human eyes (the window to the soul) and have a human mouth and even a human body to show he IS, or was, a human being thus creating empathy. It's easy to entertain 12 year olds in the 1960's with drawings for 12 cents but I would hope the filmmakers would try and flesh out the character for the year 2012 in a $12 movie. Looks like they have. Then again most movie goers are 14 year old punks so maybe that's all bullshit.
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May 13, 2012, 9:22 p.m. CST
neonfrisbee:That's an interesting take on why kids don't want to see this
by Emperor_was_a_jerk
I assumed the people that WOULD want to see this are 10-13 year olds since the first move came out when many if them were not even born. I assumed anything that is 10 years old is ancient history to a 13 year old kid. It's very interesting.
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May 13, 2012, 9:36 p.m. CST
The fact that Spidey can't be mixed with Avengers makes this movie pointless for me...
by darthwaz1
..regardless of how good it is. Get your fucking rights back Marvel..
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You said you hate forced quirky shit yet listed Hesher in your list of movies you like, lulz. Also Triangle was nonsensical crap, with hilariously dreadful dialogue, acting and a story that seemed to be written by a 16 year old after reading his first Nietsche. Yet you're calling out Prometheus on these things based on the 5 or so minutes of footage anybody has seen? You must need to map to find your way out of your own surely cavernous anus.
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...about "Cabin" that is. Looking forward to "Spidey" though.
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I feared for Avengers. And what I saw was a wafer thin plot chuck full of too-clever Jos Whedon banter that punctuated each take with a one-liner, whether or not it made sense plot-wise... only it worked. And it's made a billion dollars so far. That's TWO Solyndras, you know! You're very right. Geek intuition can be wrong. And sometimes, I'm very glad it is.
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May 13, 2012, 10:10 p.m. CST
Here's why this is gonna make some money but still be a bomb...
by Jeff Leszczynski
There's bound to be people that will see this film. But it's people who have never seen the first 3 films...or read the comic books. That's why it's gonna bomb. Peter Parker was never about angst. Peter was the geek next door, bit by a radioactive spider, not infused with DNA (as the movie blatantly points out) ala Ang Lee's Hulk (which will really leave people like really? Really??? Really!!! Really). I knew of Gwen Stacy, but Peter's love is MJ. Spider Man without MJ is like Peanut Butter without Chocolate. You can use Jam, but it's not the same. Sorry, but Tobey nailed it for me (except in 3...they all phoned that one in, even the dance number!!!). I will see it, but Andrew has got to really nail it home and make the character as believable as Tobey did.
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May 13, 2012, 10:33 p.m. CST
The Amazing Spider-Man vs. My Netflix Queue...coming to a DVD player near me this September.
by tom
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would the Lizard ever take over 'All of Earth' unless Spiderman 'alone' stops him
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SM3 was one of the worst film i've ever seen. Even IF Rami was being bugged by studio heads to make changes, he's a smart enough guy that he should have been able to incorporate stuff without utterly clusterfucking the whole movie like he did. Peter looks to be the school geek genius in this just like in the comics. Granted it's not 1962 anymore, so you know, people are different. While Maguire is a decent enough actor, he spent most of those movies with a whiny cry face when he wasn't in costume, or dancing. They failed totally with Spideys snark factor. Something they have clearly addressed in this one. How about his spidey sense. Totally unused in the Rami movies, he constantly a punching bag in those. Something that is clearly addressed in this one. How about those biological web shooters? Yeah right out of the original comics. Oh wait, that was the Ultimate universe S-M. Once again, something that is clearly fixed this time. Genius Parker builds his own web shooters! Yes! But the Lizard isn't wearing his lab coat! The Lizards face is different! BOMB! LOOKS LIKE SHITE!! Blah blah blah! Why reboot so soon? It's been FIVE YEARS since the 3RD movie. The first being 2002. How long should they wait? Oh, yes, and Tobey Maguire thinks Andrew Garfield is an awesome choice. Look it up. I am so sick of the whiner / trolls like foetus. People like you shouldn't even be watching movies.
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May 13, 2012, 11 p.m. CST
I wish I didn't feel like I've already seen this movie...
by Melanie Griffiths Sour Patch
...but that's exactly how I feel. The origin of the villain/big bad is getting boring for me. I loved how Nolan just dropped The Joker into Batman's world. I think at the end of the day I'm just tired of the hero origin/villain origin in every one of these attempts. Just feels familiar.
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May 13, 2012, 11:29 p.m. CST
Yeah, real professional of Sam Raimi to intentionally dump SM3... we shoulda given him SM4 as a payback! With Vulteress.
by Tall_Boy6t6
How in God's name people wanted another Sam Raimi Spider-Man movie is beyond my understanding. Oh, I get it! He made Evil Dead 2 almost 30 fucking years ago!
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... and a PLANT!! As evidenced by his asinine post above.
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One of the worst scenes I've ever seen. It was so mindboggingly stupid. Wasn't there anyone in that production or on set who stopped and paused for a minute and said: "Hey guys, are we REALLY doing THIS? Like SERIOUSLY?"
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/la-restaurants/
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May 14, 2012, 2:48 a.m. CST
Said it many times before..Never trust a teaser...But this is Spiderman..It hasa guaranteed audience...like the Avengers it has a large audience because it isn't obscure and it's been around a long time..like the Avengers...
by seansarto
That being said..The Avengers sucked...I thought it would be great and I wanted it to be great...but what I saw was just the next Avatar being rammed down people's throats...I don't give a shit how much money it makes..the film was nothing phenomenal...And the whole not revealing the army of baddies befofe the release was pointless...just like the they were in the film...just more tease from sideshow hawkers..."Step right up!..Step inside! From the trailers this Spiderman film "looks" good..Some of the framing is interesting...Tight shots, not like the Avengers..which seemed to be all wide shots...and there is a bleakness which here in the lighting that suggestts Frank Miller's touch (A Frank Miller Spiderman..would be interesting) Other wise judging a film by a trailer is is like talking stupid to me...Yeah..no, duh...
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May 14, 2012, 3:01 a.m. CST
i like that fart noise he makes at the end there coming out of the sewer
by Daniel
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It's a weak argument to justify the look of THE LIZARD by throwing on the cover of his first introduction comic. That face is still different from this Goomba looking pile of dung. What about the claws? The size of him? The hind legs? They don't match the cover you threw up on your thread here. The eyes don't match (look how spread a part they are in the comic). Webb's version of THE LIZARD is a major let down. The head does not match the aesthetics of the body. This conceptual design is the worse version of THE LIZARD I've seen. And my Spidey-Sense tells me it was all because someone said "we still need to see some humanity and acting in the LIZARD". I saw early conceptual LIZARD stuff for this movie and it was a hell of a lot better than this final version. So sad.
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I make movies. And you can flesh out characters that aren't human (and don't need human eyes to show us they have a soul). So you're excuse doesn't actually fly. Try again.
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May 14, 2012, 4:02 a.m. CST
Thye couldn't be bothered to get Spidey's costume right, they
by Dead_Kate_Moss
couldn't be bothered to get The Lizard right, they couldn't be bothered to spend more than $70M on the budget... - I'm thankful they've added some wise-crackery, but I'd rather Marvel got the rights back so I won't be bothering to pay to see this in the cinema if you know what I mean.
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I nearly pissed myself from laughter, when I saw the lizard guy at the end of the clip!
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Is this movie gonna be religious?
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Never saw the Spirit...But I would like to know what Miller would do with the Wolverine film...Since it is the story that he cemented in the comic books...
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Avengers have been around AND very popular for over 60 years...at least..These are established characters...(ie. You wouldn't know "Hawkeye" is Agent Barton...UNLESS you knew the comic books..The movie sure doesn't clue you in)...So the Avengers just leeches off that collective knowledge..The movie was waiting to happen because millions of adolescent boys had been envisioning it for decades BEFORE it came to the screen......It's the first Avengers film....That's about it..Hopefully there will be bettter ones... PS Most in Hollywood don't like Miller because they think he is creepy and republican...I don't really give a shit...He was one of the 3 great comic book arists of the 70's..Him, John Byrne and George Perez...MADE MARVEL AND DC...The Avengers/The X-men/The Dark Knight...All of today's fanfare leads straight to those guys...who made comic books worth millions...
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You said you were going to go slit your wrists. It's obvious that you're a liar, because you're still here, spewing dogshit. Please, stick to your convictions and spare us all.
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May 14, 2012, 8:08 a.m. CST
..They couldnt be bothered to get the goddamn origin right so they cribbed one from Ang Lee's crappy Hulk...
by mdk
...and they shot half the effect shots like a FPS game. Fuck The Demazing Twilighter-Man!
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...Just let him do comical. Maybe he'll do GOOD comical again if he focuses on that and that only. And I don't think he's Republican, just another Ayn Rand dick-sucker nutcase. All the more reason to keep him away from politics. His pissing on Eisner's legacy is enough to keep him away from movies, thankfully. Oh, and no more Batman either... DKSB taught us all that lesson... Miller loses his Batman license.
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This looks like utter shit though. Jettison the entire boring origin story stuff and have Spiderman as a MAN, not some acrobatic pussy of a teenager. Make him a wise-cracking man, like Indiana Jones in a full-body leotard and have him infiltrate an underground reptilian military base. Spiderman encounters the reptilian pure blood overlords in the lower levels of the base at the climax of the movie and these motherfuckers are as fast, strong and badass as Spiderman, and have laserbeam death-ray third eyes in the centre of their foreheads. It's basically Spiderman versus 50 Reptilians with a Temple of Doom-style action vibe and he has to nail them one by one, while getting the shit beaten out of him. Give him a ferocious hybrid dog sidekick that he freed and befriended in one of the higher up levels of the underground base, in the Hall of Horrors maybe. Make sure his hybrid dog buddy gets killed, and make sure that Spiderman gets so badly beaten up in his attempts to defeat these reptilian fuckers that he loses several fingers, has his costume ripped to shreds by the time he finally escapes. DON'T nuke the underground base. Let the reptilians live - it becomes such a savage confrontation that the victory for the hero at the end of the movie is simply surviving and escaping with his life. And NEVER show Spiderman's face. We don't need anymore Peter Parker bullshit - just Spiderman!
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And have Spiderman get shot in the shoulder and the back. In this Spiderman universe bullets hit their targets, can kill the hero and really, really hurt. Spiderman's superpowers don't make him impervious to bullets at all, so there's a real sense of danger when military troops are firing on him as he squirts his webs about the ceilings darting about to avoid their deadly fire. Then amongst all the sparking ricochets BANG! a soldier pops a cap in his shoulder and he pirouettes from the impact, falls from a height and thuds to the floor of the tunnel like a sack of shit and in immense pain.
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uncle ben will have a little accident at work.
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May 14, 2012, 8:42 a.m. CST
Damn inglorious Basterds sounds astonishing. And damn Foetus is a whiney bitch who likes Alien 3 for some reason
by UltraTron
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May 14, 2012, 8:44 a.m. CST
I find it hard to believe they only spent 70 mil. Now I'm curious to see how good the director stretched that budget
by UltraTron
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If you write 'Spiderman' your opinion doesn't count. Hyphenate people, hyphenate!
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Man. The Lizrds tail just had to be in every shot, right? Who's art directing these shots??!! Why does the tail have to be in the first shot of the Lizard? Wisping up behing his head? So LAAAAAAMMMMMMMEEEEEE!!!!!
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And why the HELL do they have to make the tail CGI??!! Its an EASY practical effect, with out all the CGI misbehavior. WHY? Dioes the makers of this movie make such STUPID mistakes. This is putting me in the direct to rental line. Stupid decisions ruin it for me.
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Oh geez.
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May 14, 2012, 10:26 a.m. CST
mak: Just because you "make movies" doesn't mean you are any good at it.
by Emperor_was_a_jerk
They filmmakers obviously made a deliberate, creative decision here. And the reason was most likely to create a character that an audience could relate to in some with by making him appear more human. It is much easier to identify with a human face than it is the face of a lizard like the ones behind the glass at a pet store. It isn't rocket science. Not saying it is the correct decision but it is likely why they made it. Besides, the movie isn't even OUT YET! You, nor I, have no idea how the Lizard interacts with the other characters in the movie. It could be fantastic. I always go back to the first reveals of Heath Ledger as The Joker. When it as announced he was to play the character SO many nerds back-lashed. Saying he was all wrong and Nolan screwed up. Then the first photos hit and even MORE backlash of how terrible it was...blah blah blah. I have this crazy notion that I like to actually SEE a movie before I judge it.
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May 14, 2012, 10:28 a.m. CST
astronut: You really think I am a "plant"? You know I have been posting here for years about all kinds of subjects. I just have this crazy notion of actually SEEING a movie before I judge it.
by Emperor_was_a_jerk
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May 14, 2012, 11:02 a.m. CST
I agree that this will be this years Superman Returns.
by Tikidonkeypunch
I actually liked the creepy stalking Superman and thought the guy channeled Christopher Reeves well. Don't know what the reboot will have in store but wished they would have kept the cast. I guess Superkid kinda killed it for most fan boys. I hate to say it but I'm leaning towards the negative on this. I love Spider Man but this just feels wrong on so many levels. But like my buddy who I keep arguing over the merits of this film over Raimi's, we're really not gonna know until we actually see the movie.
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Wow, you trollbabies are way off today. Between Foetus and dilox esp, I don't know who's dumber or more irritating. Besides, people bitching about reboots will be even more annoyed when (if ever) Marvel gets their Spider-Man rights back, they will have to reboot this one to fit in with their Marvel Movie Universe. You gonna bitch about that too?
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The guy looked like he had a soul. This on the other hand is typical comic villain crap and it looks and feels so very off it's not even funny.
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I don't know if that's a good thing or bad thing, but that's what I've read from insiders on several websites.
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You mean Raimi's Curt Connors? The one that didn't turn into the Lizard in any of Raimi's movies? The one who, collectively, was seen for maybe 10 minutes across 3 films? Yeah, that Lizard was awesome.
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May 14, 2012, 2:18 p.m. CST
theyre definitely not happy with the Lizard, given the marketing. From what I can make out, the short/no snout is fine, but they fucked up his mouth/jaw.
by dahveed1972
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May 14, 2012, 3:01 p.m. CST
I like how the labcoat defies gravity, and not fall over the Lizard's head.
by Atkinson
And by the way, it's difficult for the Lizard to talk if he had a snout. Basic anatomy. Word is Bond...
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May 14, 2012, 3:07 p.m. CST
@emperor: "They want to make The Lizard sympathetic and that is impossible to do if he just looks like a giant animal"
by Kremzeek
Couldn't disagree with this more. CG has taken phenomenal leaps recently in regard to displaying emotion. I challenge you to watch the Albino Dragon scenes from Harry Potter and tell me they weren't capable of conveying emotion in a non-human character. I was shocked that I was actually feeling emotion for a creature that didn't even exist. It was impressive. So, I call bullshit on the "has to look human to relate" stuff. Maybe 10 years ago that was true, but certainly not now.
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May 14, 2012, 3:08 p.m. CST
Oh, and I also submit "Caesar" in the last POTA film as an example
by Kremzeek
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May 14, 2012, 3:36 p.m. CST
"They want to make The Lizard sympathetic and that is impossible to do if he just looks like a giant animal"
by NightArrows
Really? How about KONG. If Jackson did anything right in the remake, it was to showcase a giant monkey that could elicit more empathy than most human protagonists in film.
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May 14, 2012, 4:33 p.m. CST
ASM will crush the Avengers, and TDKR! From the trailers it looks far above the quality of those other movies.
by Lloyd Fenton
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Cant decide if you folks worked on the film/invested money in it or if you're all just demented Spidey fans. Either way,this looks like it has a 50/50 chance of being shit,but I'll probably see it AND spring for the 3D...if nothing else,3D web-slinging looks kind of cool. Plus,ya know...Emma Stone. In 3D.
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Scortching post at 10:47. Although IMO Spider-man III was not that bad. They still should have stuck with Raims on IV. But I am cool with the reboot if it works. IF. Nuff said.
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May 17, 2012, 9:43 a.m. CST
The Man has become the king of playing one handed sympathetic villains with shady ties to our heroes daddy issues
by Haykuta
See Sci-Fi, Neverland, take it or leave it, I loved it but no matter how you feel his performance steals the show.
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Okay, NERDS: I want answers. Freakin' Spider-Man. Everybody says Spider-Man is so relatable because he's an outcast and a nerd and has every day problems like failing classes, can't get a date and he never has any money. My question is this. How in the hell can a super genius high school student be gifted enough to create not only this amazing synthesized / biodegradable / proportionately strong w...ebbing, but also a device to dispense it in a way that allows control over it's use, but he can't breeze through his classes or get a job doing science? Hell, Billy Mays would have KILLED for that webbing. Sure, I buy the logic of suddenly because he was bit by a spider he is now also a world class acrobat, strong enough for a man but made for a woman and all that... but this just feels stupid. And he had to manufacture the components himself too! So he's a super genius, world class parkour champ, inventor, scientist, teenager with the body of an underwear model / gymnast and you want me to believe he is not well liked and cant get a job? NOT TODAY!
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