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A GOOD DAY TO DIE HARD Adds Another Villain!!
The Kidd here...
Add Cole Hauser to the cast of A GOOD DAY TO DIE HARD. The character actor is joining DIE HARD 5, which is currently in production, according to Deadline, in a "pivotal supporting role" as a villain named Collins. There's no indication whether Hauser will be the big baddie this time out or just one of a number of villains John McClane must overcome, this time with his kid in tow, but he's important nonetheless. Once he takes the screen come Februrary then, he'll be worth keeping an eye on as the McClane boys make their way through Russia.
I desperately want another great DIE HARD movie to come our way with the fifth installment. I'm not particularly crazy about John McClane having another sidekick, particularly his son (how'd that work out for INDY IV?) as I think that's been the weakness in the last two films - the insistence that Willis can't go it alone anymore - but as long as that wrong guy, wrong place, wrong time concept keeps getting applied to our favorite refuse to lose New York cop, we've got a fighting chance of getting something more in line with the first two DIE HARDs.
Tom Rothman, CEO of 20th Century Fox, has painted a picture of what A GOOD DAY TO DIE HARD is going to look like, and, in a recent interview with Collider, sets up how the McClane-McClane Jr. relationship factors into where things are heading. After LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD, there's some serious questions to be asked if this is the DIE HARD we want.
"It’s really a father-son story, which is that John McClane’s been a great cop his whole life but he’s been a pretty lousy father. He has a grown son who he’s not really been in much touch with, and McClane thinks the son’s a fuck up — that’s a technical term."
"So he goes to Russia, he thinks, to bail his son out of jail, and it turns out the son’s not a fuck up, he’s the antithesis of that. In fact, the apple has not fallen far from the tree, the apple has not fallen from the tree, which is that the son is a badder ass John McClane than John McClane."
“It comes to the point in the story where they’re basically the most wanted men in the entire Soviet Union, and it’s the two of them against all of the bad guys. I’ve just gotta say, it’s a classic, classic DIE HARD.”
I get that Fox has an eye on continuing the franchise past Bruce Willis, because the guy is 57 years old and can't make these movies forever, but having John McClane's son being an even badder ass than his dad? The thing that made the first two DIE HARDs so good was that John McClane wasn't necessarily a superhero. He was a regular guy caught in extraordinary circumstances who rose to the occasion, because the alternative meant letting the bad guys win. The audience could identify with that sort of a hero. Moving away from that is moving away from what resonates with us about John McClane.
Plus, John McClane and his kid versus all of Russia? That sounds a little far-fetched, no?
I'm not trying to be negative, but I think holding any DIE HARD to a high standard is important. I'm holding out hope for "classic, classic DIE HARD," because the world needs another awesome action movie... I just wonder if that's exactly what we're getting.
-Billy Donnelly
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May 9, 2012, 10:56 a.m. CST
Uh, McClane didn't "go it alone" in Vengance with "Hey Zeus"
by tylerzero
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I mean, they're in the Soviet Union, and all. Either that or McClane's son found a time machine.
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I still think it harmed Die Hard. It became this buddy movie, and the sequels followed suite. It lost the formula, and it lost John McClane.
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Thinks he can show up, smirk, and job done. Fuck, he doesnt even smirk that well anymore!
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May 9, 2012, 10:59 a.m. CST
George Bush Sr wished his son was a badass and not a fuck-up.
by cookylamoo
But Alas.
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I admire the hope Billy has, but I can't say I share that view. Director of Max Payne and The Omen remake? They obviously took the cheap route instead of a creative one. I love Bruce, I will always love Bruce. And I'm sure he has plenty of great flicks left in him, but I just don't think A Good Day to Die Hard will be one of them.
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What is this - Red Heat? How does that work?
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May 9, 2012, 11:01 a.m. CST
"they’re basically the most wanted men in the entire Soviet Union"
by DonLogan
ummm, what Soviet Union?
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are slim to none.
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Um, is Mitt Romney the head of Fox now? Is anyone aware that the Soviet Union collapsed a year after Die Hard 2 came out? Does this film take place right after Die Hard 2 and explains the Soviet Union's fall is because of the McClane family? That would be an interesting movie.
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I understand it is done to appeal to various demographics but it never works. Die Hard started down this road in the 3rd film, Indiana Jones became a family affair and don't get me started on the Lethal Weapons series. I wrote this movie off the second I read that John McClane's son would be in it. Now it's just for the kiddies.
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This could go either way for me. I'm pretty sure in Die Hard six they might have his wife show up but who can say.
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May 9, 2012, 11:08 a.m. CST
CONTEST: Fill in the Die Hard blank = i.e. "A Good Day to Poop Hard"
by obijuanmartinez
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May 9, 2012, 11:10 a.m. CST
''I'm not trying to be negative, but'' -- The Infamous Billy the Kidd
by spacehog
I think you've found your ''Ahoy, squirts!'' for your articles, guy.
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So boring.
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Ummm...a little confused by the two overt references to the Soviet Union. Unless John McClane discovered a time machine in his police precinct locker room and was whooshed back to 1989-1990 with his adult son, this makes no sense. Who's the villain, Gorbachev? He does have the perfect look for a villain, what with being bald and having a big 'ole splotchy birthmark on his forehead.
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made 2 awesome movies in Rocky Balboa and Rambo. Dude's on a roll with Expendibles. Bruce Willis - despite appearing in many a shitty movie - never seemed to lose much of his star power, or humility according to Kevin Smith. We are therefore doomed to another shitty Die Hard movie, and possible RED sequels. On a side-note - Does anyone think that Willis made a bad judgment call having his son, John McClane Jnr. in this flick? Jnr might have his eyes on Daddies franchise.
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May 9, 2012, 11:18 a.m. CST
Terrible. It's Astounding How Completely The People Who Made It Don't Understand It
by Crow3711
How can you be making a Die Hard movie and not understand, in any way, what makes a Die Hard movie good? An ORINDARY fucking guy. Not a team of the "two most badassed motherfuckers the world has ever seen vs russia" Kill me.
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I don't want someone outshining Willis in the action department in a Die Hard movie. His son being a "badass" (spy?) counterpoint to his own activities will just water down the whole thing. Kidd is right; part of what made Die Hard unique was McLane's vulnerability. The scene in the bathroom where he's picking glass out of his feet and has resigned himself to dying that night sums up a lot of the mood of the film, which was lost in the sequels. I will go on record as saying that I liked and to this day enjoy Die Hard with a Vengeance, but Live Free or Die Hard was weak. If it's PG-13, I'm going in with low expectations.
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When I think back to sneaking into Die Hard 24 years ago, and what has happened to the franchise since...
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Bruce Willis said in an interview that in the next Die Hard he wanted Bonnie Bedelia to come back, so she may have a role in this flick however small.
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Who thought Die Hard with a Vengence was the best of the bunch??
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This franchise is beyond jumping the shark or nuking the fridge. It doesn't help that its being directed by the guy responsible for the lame Omen remake.
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This sounds like a load of mouldy old cock. Stop it now. Does anyone want to see another stillborn Die Hard?
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although Bruce has got Looper on the horizon, which could be awesome. Die Hard, however sounds execrable.
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May 9, 2012, 11:27 a.m. CST
Is the son's name Poochie? You know, Indy's son was name Mutt.
by hank henshaw
There's also the Simpson's reference.
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May 9, 2012, 11:33 a.m. CST
Only one good Die Hard. The first. The rest are pretty pointless sequels. What other movies should have been stand alone?
by Talkbacker with no name
Ok, so Die Hard is the best, I think most are agreed on that, but which other movies should have been stand alone and not gotten the shitty sequel treatment? I will throw Lethal Weapon and First Blood in to the mix.
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the year was 1988..... we decided to see Licensed to Drive instead of what would soon be known as the greatest film ever. "this movie will blow you away" tag line was ridiculous plus we were more familiar with the Corey's (though nobody admitted what they really wanted was to see was an overdeveloped 17 year old Heather Graham). good riddance already to DH5 and here's to hoping DH6 will put a bow on this series by placing McClane back in a geographically constricted vicinity where he'd once again use his surroundings to hide, plot, spy, etc.
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Rothman has just confirmed what everyone already suspected.
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May 9, 2012, 11:41 a.m. CST
This is sounding more and more like the movie I didn't want to see!
by notcher
I mean seriously, it's come to this, a crap director with a crap writer and the best they can do for villains is Cole Hauser? How the mighty have fallen. End the series now before the entire legacy is ruined forever!!!!
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Gringos...
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May 9, 2012, 11:42 a.m. CST
We get it, he was a terrible father. We learned that in the last movie!!
by StarQrtrs
Fucking Fox idiots.
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Looks to be a better movie than this dreck. Pack it in, cuckold! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGfmfPYiO1w
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And go and live in a log cabin. Fuckin ungrateful bastards, after everything he's done! Not to mention his shitty ex-wife, saved her fucking life twice and she divorces him!! WANKERS THE LOT OF EM!!! Yeah, i know, it's only a movie....
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...With a vengence is a good sequel, but it's not better than the original. Die Harder is a bad case of sequilitis, where there is no reasonable need or indication for a sequel to the first film, except that, hey, the characters are still alive, so why not??? I actually think they do a pretty good job of making a virtue of it "How can the same shit happen to the same guy twice" although making it almost the exact same story, beat for beat only 'more' kind of sucks, and were it really happening, I doubt he'd go with Yippee Ki-ay... again, as that was a specific taunt against Hans Gruber... Vengence is a much better sequel because it deals with interesting consequences of the first film, and entuirely, and believeably, fleshes out McLaines life. Who doesn't love all the smaller heroics in that school evacuation??? Go NYPD. But. With this? WTF. First, can no one pick up on this: "Badder Ass" is beyond moronic. More of a Bad Ass (or 'more bad ass'). You are A bad ass, I am a bad ass, they are bad asses, we are all bad asses, we will be do bad ass things. You are either a Bad Ass, or you do Bad Ass things. Badder Ass makes you sound like the desperate, ignorant salesman you really are. Die Hard and Rocky are a lot alike. In both cases, the characters need some redemption. In both cases they do what they do because they have to, both because that's there nature, and because the circumstances dictate. And both characters do it, despite taking an ever worse beating. It is not about what you do, it is about how hard it is to do that thing. The formula is so fucking simple I could draw it in crayon on a side of paper. Hero - Compelled by nature and circumstance. Overmatched and taken to and past their limits. Defeating the villian at the end through determination. (I would also except cunning, or villians overconfidence, but determination needs to be in there). Bonus Points- contrast a superior force getting trashed to highlight desperate plight of hero's situation, also hero's heroic qualities (Cunning, endurance, etc.). WHY CAN NO ONE GET THIS RIGHT???
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without sequels to Lethal Weapon we would've never gotten the infamous bomb in the toilet scene, or Chris Rock as Murtaugh's son in law, come on!
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I must confess that I have a strong love for DH3. Obviously the first is the best, but I was 9 years old when I saw Vengeance and for whatever reason it just spoke to me and helped me realize how awesome movies are. A lot of it I think has to do with the chemistry between Willis and Jackson, both fresh off of Pulp Fiction, that is just entertaining as hell to watch. Again, the first has not been equaled, but I don't have too much of a problem with McClane having a side-kick. Having said that, this will most likely suck.
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1 has the best script. 3 has incredible stunts, incredible locations, and amazing handheld camera work.
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God forbid bad guys in films happen to be the bad guys trying to kill us.
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Willis, Travolta, The Avengers, Gina Davis, Velociraptors, Snakes, Intelligent Sharks...
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May 9, 2012, 11:53 a.m. CST
So this is promoting the Republican Teabagger fantasy that the Soviet Union still exists?
by mdk
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I'm going to just accept as fact that the movie is 'R' rated...
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May 9, 2012, 12:05 p.m. CST
A GOOD DAY TO PRE-SPEND ALL THAT PROMETHEUS BOX-OFFICE
by ArmageddonProductions
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As George Carlin once said "STOP THAT!"
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and just admit they're trying to do a handoff from Willis to whomever it is that plays his son? They see future franchise potential. But as Billy noted, how'd that work out for Indy? How about Flynn's kid? What's next? Ridley Scott giving Deckard a kid? Conan the Barbarian, Jr.? Jesus.
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May 9, 2012, 12:12 p.m. CST
'the son is a badder ass John McClane than John McClane' = jumping the shark
by kevred
There's a very valid argument to be made that the last film - with bald superhero McClane, PG-13 and all the other junk - was not a Die Hard movie. But this sounds like it makes it official. Looking back, a Die Hard film from the Willis Wasn't Shaving His Head (WWSHH) era, with a teenage son who was capable in his own way but still very much at risk from the bad guys, could have been really effective. There would have been a real sense of danger for both McClane and those he's trying to protect, which is what was so effective in the first 2 or 3 DH films. This sounds like it could be an entertaining movie, but not a Die Hard movie. More of a Bourne or Bond film, where every time there's danger our man simply turns into a superhero and is automatically well-equipped for it.
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May 9, 2012, 12:12 p.m. CST
My 20-year old daughter made me laff this past weekend. Went to see Cabin In The Woods, and settled down to the previews..
by openthepodbaydoorshal
saw a preview of The Cold Light Of Day with Henry Cavill & Bruce Willis...followed by Looper..followed by Expendables 2.. at that point she said, "Is that guy in EVERY fuckin' movie?" My problem with DH5 is that the estranged child (his daughter) was done in Live Free, as was the "father-son" dynamic with Justin Long filling the role of the "son". Now, the son's the badass and the "old-man-dad"s the student...although I'm sure the old guy will show the young pup some old style new tricks....ya think?? Cookie cutter Hollywood at it's best.
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May 9, 2012, 12:18 p.m. CST
kryzbeqistan haha it's a good point well made
by Talkbacker with no name
ok Lethal Weapon 2 gets a pass
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. . . yep
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OH fuck me ... This sounds terrible.
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Look I loved Die Hard 3 I thought Live Free or Die Hard was ok. It definitely wasn't as great as the first 3 but it was a bad movie. With that said, to try and set his son up as the person to continue the story, uh I don't like the sound of it. Especially if you try to say this guy is better than McClane. Ok yes I know Willis can't keep doing it, but just let it end. Because I don't want to see John McClane Jr. Epic Fail Fox.
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McClane wakes up hungover as usual, surprised to see he has fifty messages on his answering machine and his cell's been ringing on silent nonstop. Listens to a message, it's so frantic he can't figure out what it's saying. Annoyed, he tosses the phone down. Looks outside his apartment window and sees nothing but smoke and dust. <br><p> Goes downstairs, steps outside, and people are fleeing down the street, running desperately. There's shit swirling in the air and the smoke gets so dark the further you go down the street it blacks out the sun. <br><p> McClane finally pulls someone aside to ask what the hell's going on. The guy screams, "a plane hit the World Trade Center!" <br><p> And the rest of the movie is in real time as McClane volunteers with the firefighters (he is a cop after all, they'd let him) to run into the burning towers, and eventually their rubble, to try to rescue people. He doesn't make it out. I imagine painfully long tracking shots on a Steadicam as we follow him around ground zero and lose more and more hope. <br><p> No Bruce Willis flying fighter jets, no silly face off with the bad guy. Not even an utterance of 'yippie ky yay motherfucker!' I'm not interested in that shit. Seen it all a thousand times. I want to take the central character of the franchise, who I still think is an interesting guy, and see him in some really intense situations, not a fucking comic book. Also, it puts McClane, a character who -never- loses (accept in divorce court) into a situation he absolutely cannot win. <br><p> We wouldn't hold back either like Oliver Stone's pussy movie. It'd be blunt and to the point, showing everything in horrifying detail. I think that'd really fuck people up. Using a franchise action picture to explore something very touchy and sensitive. I'm also attracted to movies that sound like appallingly bad ideas, and then play themselves straight. Like Bubba Ho-Tep. I don't know. I'm weird.
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DH3 is infinitely better than DH2. and I don't care if the guy for his son winds up being great casting, he and Willis have great chemistry and it's an interesting dynamic in the movie, if Willis is done -- so should be the name brand Die Hard!!
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The girl who was hitting on him and helped him with the fax machine. He unloaded that old battle ax of a wife, why not.
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He's like the poster boy for clueless doucheag studio suits.
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- Just before it opens, Bruce says it's the best DIE HARD movie he's ever made. - It gets a PG-13 certificate. - It's so unbelievably fucking lame, it actually makes you nostalgic for DH rip-offs like PASSENGER 57 and SUDDEN DEATH.
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May 9, 2012, 12:51 p.m. CST
Think anyone at the studio caught how ignorant this exec is with his Soviet Union comments?
by Chris
Or do you think they're just figuring it's no big deal, nobody of importance will notice. Like when George W. Bush said, "Most of our imports continue to come from over seas," are they just choosing to ignore the stupidity?
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May 9, 2012, 12:59 p.m. CST
Hmmm... I'm wondering what sound my balls would make on Tom Rothman's tonsils as he gagged on them...?
by King_Knut
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Pretty well, I'd say. It made three quarters of a BILLION dollars and grossed more than all the others.
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All this Father-Son/Family Turmoil wreaks of present day Spielhack. You fucking suits at Fox are a bunch of fucking swine. This sounds horrible. Sounds even worse than the last piece of shit installment the suits thought would be great.
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May 9, 2012, 1:09 p.m. CST
Actually the father/son thing in Indy 4 was one of things that worked.
by Mugato5150
I know everyone hates Shia LeBeowulf and Lord knows Spielberg's daddy issues with every film is played out but that wasn't the worst problem with the film.
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May 9, 2012, 1:17 p.m. CST
Bruce Willis and Samuel L. Jackson were fucking awesome together.
by Volllllume3
They tried to the same thing in the sequel that shall not be named and it failed miserably.
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Money made is not quite the issue when it comes to fans of movies, only executives at production companies. He was referring to the quality of "Indy IV" and the audience reaction (which both were rather negative). So, he was using the dynamic used in the storytelling of the Indiana Jones film to gather together the concept of how, or WHY, another film would follow the example of a film that was nearly universally reviled. Nobody went and saw the fourth Indiana Jones film because, "Holy crap! This film is going to be awesome! We get to see Indy's son!" They went and saw that film expecting a good "Indiana Jones" film, which it was not. That is his fear about another "Die Hard" film. Why do I need to explain this to you?
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Just how fucking awfull was the last one. It still boggles my mind.
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May 9, 2012, 1:20 p.m. CST
Eh, the Soviet Union? Correct me if I'm wrong but that hasn't existed for about 20 years...
by Baron Von Penguin
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May 9, 2012, 1:21 p.m. CST
For someone who starred in every Die Hard, Bruce Willis doesn't seem to know shit about the franchise.
by Christian Sylvain
These putzes he's working with are messing up the series.
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May 9, 2012, 1:21 p.m. CST
Also, his son being the sidekick is a little too much into Poochie The Dog territory for my liking. Die Harder Jumping The Shark
by Baron Von Penguin
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Any day is a good day for him to die hard, soft, or however the fuck he needs to go. What an asshole.
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because they seem to like to throw their daddy issues in the majority of movies out there. enough already
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Tom Rothman makes Harry look like a grammatical genius... *So he goes to Russia, he thinks, to bail his son out of jail, and it turns out the son’s not a fuck up, he’s the antithesis of that. In fact, the apple has not fallen far from the tree, the apple has not fallen from the tree, which is that the son is a badder ass John McClane than John McClane." “It comes to the point in the story where they’re basically the most wanted men in the entire Soviet Union* Aside from the fact that Russia hasn't been the Soviet Union for 20 years and the phrase *badder ass* isn't really a word, the idea still sucks. The only way you can get a father son combo on screen to work is to do it like THE LAST CRUSADE and have them as an odd couple, not both as bad asses.
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The guys a talentless useless fucking corporate muppet whose ignorance and total lack of brain power has ruined so many potentially great movies it's a joke. All he cares About is PG13 ratings and an opening weekend. Forget about what's best for the movie, he'll wreck it with one abysmal decision after another. He learnt nothing from the last shitty pussy Die Hard for kiddies movie and now he comes out with this shit. The prick just doesn't get Die Hard at all, let alone anything else.
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and Terry Gilliam needs to work!
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...instead. Still don't know why that never got a sequel. Die hard ended with him reuniting with his wife to(presumabley) live happily ever after. Last Boy Scout ended with Willis and Wayans talking about forming a partnership, setting themselves(and the movie)for more adventures. By the way, in the book that Die Hard is based on, Nothing Lasts Forever, the McClane character(didn't use the novel's character name cuz the books a sequel to The Detective which Sinatra made into a film) was trying to save his daughter instead of his wife and failed. So maybe in this one, McClane will fail to save his son(who does "Die Hard") and goes for his vengeance. Probably would be as believeable as anything else they'd come up with.
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Was I the only one who loved this flick? Die Hard in an airport with William Sandler as the baddie. classic
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May 9, 2012, 2:07 p.m. CST
Am I the only one who thinks Die Hard With A Vengence is one of the greatest action movies EVER?
by sonnyfern
There some shit in there that still blows my mind. I think it's one of the best action movies ever done, right up there with the first one. I agree though that teaming Willis up with all these fucking side kicks is retarded. I feel the same way about Indy. Sidekicks are only good if they get killed...
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a nuclear submarine and head for America with the whole Soviet navy chasing them. The Cold War world stands on the brink of nuclear destruction.
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Or is McClane an effing time traveler now?
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That might bring something new, but you need balls for that move, and Fox and Willis aint got any. Punks.
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The only way i'll go see this is if Tony Scott directs. That guy was born to direct a DIE HARD movie.
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I thought it was better than the first two DHs. However, number one was a close second. WTF is goin on with AICN? This news broke yesterday along with the bit of strange casting news that Cameron Diaz will be playing the femme fatale character in Ridley Scotts the Counselor movie. Come on guys where's the so called cool news?
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May 9, 2012, 2:25 p.m. CST
@slone13, if you adjust it for inflation, 2008's Indiana Jones made A WHOLE LOT LESS than any of the previous films.
by hank henshaw
Same goes for Live Free or Die Hard when compared to the other 3.
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It's sad to watch; Sly, Ford, Willis, all of them...just stop. Sly's steroid and plastic surgery abuse is going to end with him going postal.
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It would make more sense than this abortion in the making.
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Terrible direction. Who was it, Geena Davis' husband? He sucks. How long was that runway that the plane could taxi for 20 minutes when they fought? And they had airphones at the beginning just to forget about them. And the eternal flame from a thin flow of gasoline that served as running lights. And the villain was lame. Movies like this depend on the villain. Alan Rickman's Hans, right up there with Darth Vader. Jeremy Irons wasn't too shabby. They need a decent villain more than anything else.
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Regardless of how "live free" turned out, at least when the synopsis was released it sounded like it resembled a die hard film made for the 21st century. Digital terrorist take over America and hold it for ransom. Wrong place, wrong time, analogue cop in a digital age. A father/son story, set in the soviet union? Wtf? I know willis also said the next logical step would be to take the franchise world wide? So if that's starts playing into the story as well - this feels even less like a die hard film. Did anyone see the Bruce willis film HOSTAGE? That would have been an excellent premise for a fifth die hard film - and would have flipped the hostage situation (from a die hard perspective) right on its head. With mcCLane being stuck on the outside. Would like to withhold judgement... But so far doesn't sound good. And for reference my fave DH films in order: - DH DH3 DH2 DH4
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Surely he means "a jerk-off"?
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May 9, 2012, 2:41 p.m. CST
Sounds like Pie hard...McClane standing in line for hours to get a loaf of bread.
by jellypop
Hell....John Moore is directing this. That is way more important than worrying about some dumbo exec getting his 'Soviet Union' slip in. John Moore...Hell..that scares me so much more...
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Have our hero, plus his son, plus his wife, plus his friend and a couple of other colleagues. Let's make it a "family adventure" and everyone can come along. Hell, let's even bring the McClanes' next door neighbors, The Rosenbergs, give them guns, and have them in on the action. I miss the days of the hero being the hero. Fuck this group participation bullshit.
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When the franchise introduces a son! It's over! Croc Dundee III, Indy IV!
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These 3rd rate villains aren't giving me much confidence in this movie.
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May 9, 2012, 2:55 p.m. CST
He's his son. He's his daughter. He's his son AND daughter...Forget it John, it's Sequeltown..
by openthepodbaydoorshal
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I'm not against McClane having a sidekick or ally, but this is getting silly. What's next, McClane and his wife are going to take on the terrorists in Die Hard 6?
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May 9, 2012, 3:04 p.m. CST
This series is obsolete. I bailed after the first one.
by Mickster_Island
1 or 2 more tired sequels. Then a very brief remake, in which McLane uses his cell phone.
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That's a ballsy and interesting idea for a Die Hard sequel. It would be hard to convince the studio on something like that, but the key is that you're thinking in terms of McClane being an everyman action hero, not an unstoppable wave of destruction.
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May 9, 2012, 3:11 p.m. CST
Bourne McClain in "Die HARD - Like a Piece of Iron!"
by johndalf greymane
It turns out that the fall of communism... was a commie plot to weaken the west! The Soviet Union contracted its borders by 50 miles and let everyone in the new "prosperity ring" live it up like decadent Americans, while inside, the real Soviet Union continued in its goal to rule the world! Nobody WANTS to go to Russia, so no one could tell the difference from outside! Ivan Drago (Dolph Lundgren) is the new head of the KGB and Bourne McClain, triple secret agent of the OSS (the OSS was never really folded into the CIA!), must defeat him in a kickboxing tournament in the middle of Red Square. Bruce Willis is gonna do a cameo by brodying donuts around the fight ring in a stolen Russian halftrack, giving the "thumbs up!" out the window and blaring a dixie car horn! I havent worked out how the dixie car horn got in the russian halftrack, but Im working on it... I should be sa movie exec, who needs writers?
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May 9, 2012, 3:15 p.m. CST
sodomy_joe_shitpants... McClains neighbors need to be...
by johndalf greymane
by mere coincidence, traveling around Russia... er, the Soviet Union... in a motor home, smoking weed with their chihuahua. hollywood gold.
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Never understand why people continually pay to watch the shit these studios shovel out.
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I didn't miss any point. I answered The Kidd's question, albeit from a financial standpoint. Now please, for both of our sakes, refrain from explaining anything to me in the future.
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May 9, 2012, 3:27 p.m. CST
I think the problem with more Die Hard is that a lot of the great potential Die Hard sequels have been done
by lv_426
In the 90's after Die Hard 1 and 2 became the template for about 75% of the big action movies, the concept has been milked. Speed is DH on a bus. Speed 2 is DH on a cruise ship. Passenger 57 is DH on an actual plane. Under Siege is DH on a destroyer. Under Siege is DH on a train. Con Air is DH with convicts. The Rock is DH on Alcatraz. Cliffhanger is DH on a mountain. Air Force One is DH on AFOne, with the Pres as the bad ass everyman type killing the hijackers. Then recently there were two DH in the White House scripts sold, White House Down and Olympus Has Fallen. A lot of these could have easily been great Die Hard sequels. Speed would have worked really well. They could have easily done that as Die Hard 3, set in NYC instead of LA, and it would have worked (not that DH3 is bad, but the point is we've had lots of DH and DH clones over the last 20 years). I think this is why when in 1999, something like The Matrix comes along as a breath of fresh air in place of all the DH or Lethal Weapon buddy cop action flicks. Of course, The Matrix got ripped off a lot and became one of the templates for the 2000's action films.
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Just check out The Omen remake. Fucking atrocious. No McTiernan = no good Die Hard film. Simple as that.
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Nope, DHWAV IS one of the greatest action films ever. The first 90 minutes are just gobsmacking.
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May 9, 2012, 3:33 p.m. CST
In American, you Die Hard, In Soviet Russia ... actually, same thing.
by Vince Ricardo
Ah, the ol' Soviet Commies made such good villains, who can blame that guy for missing them? Nowadays, there is too much PC in Hollywood, so no one wants to use the Chinese Commies as bad guys. Of course, the fact that we (as a country) owe them billions upon billions of dollars might also be a factor ...
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It has one good scene(the taxi ride/subway sequence) and is otherwise a poor Lethal Weapon rip-off that is horribly paced and doesn't even adhere to its decent 'Die Hard in NYC' premise with a terrible climax. McTiernan has always been a bit of an overrated director. He had that terrific trifecta of Predator, Die Hard and The Hunt for Red October, but has otherwise made some pretty bad films outside of his above-average remake of The Thomas Crown Affair. His Rollerball is as bad a movie as I've ever seen.
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What could they possibly throw at him next? A nuclear warhead??
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Fair enough. Obviously Hans Gruber can't kick McClane's ass. That's what made him a great villains.
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May 9, 2012, 4:02 p.m. CST
SOVIET UNION? WHAT SOVIET UNION? TOM ROTHMAN IS FUCKING DUMB.
by Stereotypical Evil Archer
Maybe they'll use prosthetic makeup to give the actor portraying Bruce Willis's son more of Bruce's facial profile.
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May 9, 2012, 4:04 p.m. CST
HOW DO YOU WRITE AN ENTIRE ARTICLE ABOUT DIEHARD WITHOUT WRITING THE NAME "BRUCE WILLIS?"
by Stereotypical Evil Archer
Seriously, how can such an article even exist on a geek movie site?
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May 9, 2012, 4:07 p.m. CST
MY BAD! I got so enraged by Rothman I didn't read further.
by Stereotypical Evil Archer
Ha ha ha ha, I suck. Yep, I have to admit it. But, I'm quirky, so Zooey Dechanel and I would totally rock at awkward sex.
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Bruce Willis has a Viagra overdose, and goes shooting up bad guys with an erection that lasts for over four hours. Spoiler Alert: The bad guys kidnap his doctor, who is played by Hugh Laurie.
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Why would you want it to be in line with 1 and 2? 2 was the worst one of the 4! SO BAD! So boring, SO STUPID! Watch 1 and then 2 again. See whatcha think.
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May 9, 2012, 4:27 p.m. CST
The first 3 Die Hard movies were great because they were fucking Die Hard
by Volllllume3
And 2 gets way to much stick. The action scenes in the airport were fucking brutal. Compare that to the cookie cutter bullshit of the fourth one.
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Everyone will go see it but if it goes the route of Indy 4 it will suck. They will make money for sure....but it will still suck.
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should be the least of our concerns when it comes to these new Die Hard movies
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?? Played Varro on Spartacus? Never heard of him, never watched Spartacus. Must be a badass if he's willing to wear a loincloth. Or a leather kilt, or whatever the fuck they wear on that show.
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Why it didn't work in Indy was Speilberg and others pushing Shia down our throats. The kid doesn't even look like Ford and his character was not setting him up as any kind of hero. Here if they set up the son as an action hero this could actually work. Also the guy is kind of a unknown which really works. I have high hopes for this actually.
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whatever.
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who is more out of touch with John McClane and the Die Hard franchise, Bruce Willis or Fox? http://batstud.blogspot.com/
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May 9, 2012, 5:28 p.m. CST
"A Villain named Collins!"?who cares. New cast members added to this movie is not cool news
by future help
the only way it would be cool, is: the AL or Bonnie characters return. And John grows his hair back and puts on the wife beater shirt...Fuck, why they fuck with the formula?
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May 9, 2012, 5:39 p.m. CST
Ain't no way in hell you're gonna get what you want from this, Mr. The Kid
by juice willis
We all know what Mr. Rothman is talking about serving up. Fuck all who pay to see this.
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Brucie must have been taking lessons from George Lucas.
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May 9, 2012, 5:45 p.m. CST
A Democrat studio exec's apparent belief that the Soviet Union still exists is part of a Republican fantasy that the Soviet Union still exists.
by TheyPeedOnYourFuckingRug
Thanks for clearing that up for us, has_snyder_been_fired.
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May 9, 2012, 6:15 p.m. CST
Why the hate for Die Hard 2. I love the movie and think its clearly better than 4 which didn't even really feel like a Die Hard movie.
by MRJONZ72
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The idea of Mutt picking up Indy's hat was a tease or parody of setting up a spin-off and I can't imagine anybody buying the idea of continuing Die Hard that way either. If they want to reboot it, the obvious thing is to go back to the novels and cast somebody to do "Die Hard: The Detective" followed by "Die Hard: Nothing Lasts Forever" so we finally see those connected on film. Stick with the McClane character since he's better known. Or maybe don't. Recast the Sinatra character.
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just kidding. What if all the characters shaved their heads to look like bruce willis? a completely straight die hard movie, except everyone is completely bald.
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We do not need a character that will out-John McCLane John McCLane, and we certainly don't need to be sucking Russia's dick to sell more movie tickets.
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and didn't really mind Justin Long.
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The sequel seems to have been put in a similar place as Temple of Doom. Both are contrived and preposterous in spots. However, they are also, to use a cliche, incredible roller coaster rides. Die Harder has an incredible setting and sense of place. Something that DHWAV squandered. The film is wonderfully paced and ratchets up the tension extremely well. The scenes in the air traffic control tower couldn't be better made. The villain IS quite good. Obviously no one can match Alan Rickman, but William Sadler is a bad-ass in this. His main henchman is also fantastic, something that DH3 failed with in the mute blonde. The twist involving him is terrifically set-up to force the audience to suddenly switch allegiances. Most importantly, DH2 allows McClane to actually fail. This humanizes him, makes the audience detest the villain even more and allows us to think that anything can happen. DH3 does the opposite. Simon Gruber even says a line along the lines of "What am I monster?" The somewhat clever simon says game is abandoned midway through as is the great NYC setting for a plodding climax that has virtually no suspense. The first two Die Hards are the only really good films in the franchise. Hell, Gene Siskel put Die Harder in his 10 best list of 1990. An exceedingly underrated sequel.
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Soviet Union?
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Best get to it before Keanu and Sandra are too old.
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is played by the dude who was Spartacus's blonde best friend in the tv show Spartacus Blood and Sand. ( first season )
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McClane gets trapped in an area of the city where the riot is raging, the police and national guard having barricaded all roadways out of this section of the city. This way you have people McClane can save, opportunity for a sidekick/ally, and the notion of being trapped or being in a confined setting like the first two Die Hard films had at their core. Set it during or near the Christmas holiday (maybe the riots were set off after another financial meltdown where Wall Street got another big bailout and the 99 percenters are loosing their shit). This works because McClane is a New York City cop. It makes sense that he'd respond to some shit going down around Wall Street. Or maybe go back to Los Angeles. McClane is out there helping on a big case when a crazy ass LA riot breaks out. That way he could re-team with Al Powell for more Die Hard fun. Or set it in a city like Chicago, where soon there will be a NATO summit. These kinds of events naturally have protests attached. That could work for the story in terms of having a logical built-in reason to set off a riot for McClane to get caught up in. Possible titles: DIE HARD FOR A DOLLAR -or- DIE HARD FOR YOUR COUNTRY -or- DIE HARD IN THE STREETS
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May 9, 2012, 10:26 p.m. CST
Or they could just go nuts and do DIE HARD crossed with BEVERLY HILLS COP
by lv_426
DIE HARD WITH A BANANA IN YOUR TAILPIPE
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And the son dies before the end, in the movie and in real life.
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"Oops" said John McClane. "Yippie ki yay..."
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That's a hilarious quote from Tom "PG-13" Rothman. That he'd so freely use the word "fuck', but will edit it out of a movie to get his beloved PG-13. Screw you Rothman.
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May 9, 2012, 11:26 p.m. CST
Why did he say "that's a technical term" ? What the fuck is this guy's problem? What the fuck else could it mean?
by Xen11
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Canada and Mexico aren't overseas.
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I like DH2. I have no problems with it.
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fuck this site, do I really have to go to slash film to see actual photographs? WHO THE FUCK IS COLE CORNHOLER?
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Why do I have to do my own personal research for AICN articles?
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May 10, 2012, 12:49 a.m. CST
Die, "Die Hard," just fuckin' die. So sick of family angle hammered into stories.
by kabong
Next in the series will be John McClane's grandchildren doing Spy Kids. <p> Die Hard Kindergarten Cop
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May 10, 2012, 12:51 a.m. CST
Or will they cast Hans Gruber's son we never knew he had as villain?
by kabong
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the apple has not fallen far from the tree.
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May 10, 2012, 1:51 a.m. CST
Tom Rothman is a fucking idiot. This only confirms it.
by Mr. Pricklepants
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God I hope you're the only one...
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May 10, 2012, 4:37 a.m. CST
"the son is a badder ass John McClane than John McClane"
by buggerbugger
And in other news, Alyssa Milano's Jenny Matrix is a badder ass than her dad in 'Lady Commando', coming soon to a cinematic toilet bowl near you.
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May 10, 2012, 4:39 a.m. CST
"the apple has not fallen far from the tree, the apple has not fallen from the tree"
by buggerbugger
Does that mean he's still in his dad's ballsack, if he hasn't fallen from the tree yet?
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May 10, 2012, 5:44 a.m. CST
Die Hard>Die Hard WAV>Die Hard 2>That Len Wiseman heap of shit
by kwisatzhaderach
It was understood that nobody could make a worse Die Hard film than Renny Harlin. Yet somehow Len Wiseman found a way.
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May 10, 2012, 5:45 a.m. CST
But who could make a worse Die Hard film than Len Wiseman?
by kwisatzhaderach
I think they've found a strong contender in John Moore.
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go from John McTiernan to John Moore? Mind-boggling.
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Uwe Boll? Now if it was him directing, I think I'd take a voluntary swim in sulphuric acid.
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Die Hard 2 was okay. It had Meat from Porky's in it as well.
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May 10, 2012, 12:30 p.m. CST
A GOOD DAY TO KICK TOM ROTHMAN IN THE NUTS FOR BEING SUCH A FUCK-UP should be the title
by Mr. Pricklepants
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May 10, 2012, 12:36 p.m. CST
BREAKING NEWS: Tom Rothman will play the movie main villain, Joseph Stalin
by Mr. Pricklepants
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Mikhail's long lost, evil twin brother!
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You guys didn't hear about that? I must say I'm surprised. I heard someone say once that Willis must have channeled MacLane from his hair and that once he went full on kojack, he lost his ties to that correcter forever. After seeing LFoDH, well, I don't know what happened but to me it was like getting Hopkins to play Lecter again only this time Lecter is a fucking mime or any number of polar opposites of his original characterization. Plus, others have asked...how is it the production crew involved with these movies doesn't get what makes this character and the first few movies work? Even if you hate everything past the first, you must admit that the 2nd and 3rd at least seemed like Die-hard movies and Willis seemed like he was playing MacLane in all three flicks. The guy Willis played in LFoDH and will invariably play in this newest outing is, to me, an amalgram of his Pulp Fiction character 'Butch' and his cynical asshole character in 'Fast Food Nation"..basically a quasi super-hero prick. Never riled, never out of his element, never out of control...you know, precisely the OPPOSITE of the John MacLane we all know and love from the first 3 movies. LFoDH took such a huge blatant and purposeful shit on the world of geekfilm...I'm shocked it's not panned on AICN utterly like it deserves. Kevin Smith should be fucking ashamed of himself and so should the JeepersCreepers kid (both admited film/movie geeks I believe...Smith is obviously).
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extended cut. The add-ons I remember were the inclusion of the actual swear words and not the stupid dubbed version that I first had to sit through and the scene with the knife and neck in the army truck. It was way to obvious that the actual dialogue had been swept over. Give Renny Harlin some credit, DH2 is handled just how it should have been. Also having seen the version of Die Hard 4.0 were the swearing has been restored, as opposed to the watered-down '12' we had in the U.K. cinemas it certainly feels more like a Die Hard film.
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Great action, great atmosphere, great bad guys, fallible McClane with hair, and an overall vibe and tone that fits so nicely with the first one. It's pretty clear at this point that all of the first three films have a considerable number of fans, and all fit in one way or another as "true" DH films. I didn't enjoy the third one nearly as much, but that doesn't mean it's bad or anyone is wrong to like it. But if I had to watch a DH film right now, I'd choose part 2. Partially because I've seen 1 so many more times, but also because DH2 may well have been the last great action film of the era/decade. Action films just haven't been as fun since then.
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Well said in your last paragraph. Big & bold went out of the window a long time ago as did, sadly, the gracious way those movies were filmed. The lenses, the lighting and the cameras-all fantastic components that I dearly miss. I'll use Basic Instinct as my example of that alongside Die Hard 2.
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May 10, 2012, 4:04 p.m. CST
jelly pop - I'll see your Basic Instinct, and raise you a Total Recall...
by openthepodbaydoorshal
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but he hates it.
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WHAT!? Well, I assume that the writer knows what happened A WHILE ago. Soviet Union 0 : USA 1. At least, I sincerely hope so. It probably was just the suit that skipped that topic in school while banging a cheerleader. Otherwise, DH6 will probably be about the McClane bunch (daughter comes back with Mommy Bedelia in tow ... after having a Botox weekend in Switzerland ...) hunting down ADOLF HITLER resulting with a final shoot out on the set of The Downfall ... yippey Heil kay. And John McClane, junior rides off into the sunset with a horny Eva Braun ... jesus christ ...
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As if there ever much consideration given to the screenplay for any movie.
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It is one do the great films in the action genre. But while the sequels have had their moments, none have come close to the original: Great adaptation of the source material, great script, plot and characters, great casting, great technical execution. It was super fun and while it was far fetched, it never went into absurdity (read: it be never had stolen STOVL F35 hovering around a city blowing thigs up). The first film was lightning in a bottle.
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May 10, 2012, 7:30 p.m. CST
They can add all of the villians that they want...It's still gonna suck!
by Citizen Sane
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May 10, 2012, 7:36 p.m. CST
The only good Die Hard was the first one, 2 was terrible, and 3 was like a 2nd rate action movie watchable better...
by maxcherry
should have been better. Live Free or Die Hard was complete shit. I don't see the reason for another Die Hard movie, because basically the first one is the only one that was good.
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I hate this "Buddy" idea they suddenly thought he needed after part 2.
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It was always odd how Reginald Veljohnson also played a cop right after DH to star on Family Matters.
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