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EXCLUSIVE: James Cameron is still going to do BATTLE ANGEL ALITA, but not for a while!!!
Hey folks, Harry here... when the news of that James Cameron interview hit, where it seemed he had decided that he'd only ever make AVATAR movies for the rest of his life... I felt my soul drop a bit. I love AVATAR - and I am wholly intrigued by Cameron's assertion that he can tell all the stories he wants to tell through the metaphoric worlds he can explore in that cinematic universe... It reminds me of how John Ford used the Western or Alfred Hitchcock used the Suspense genre. Or George Lucas with STAR WARS. But... Goddammit, more than any AVATAR film, I'm dying to see Cameron tackle BATTLE ANGEL ALITA. I've been tracking that project with Jim for as long as that original treatment for AVATAR has been around. SO... I had to write Cameron to see if I should still cling to the hope that there will be a BATTLE ANGEL ALITA or if he was going to give up on it - and there would be a hope that another filmmaker might take it over. Here's what Cameron had to say...
"No. I still love that project. But Battle Angel is not going to happen for a few years." - Jim Cameron
Thank Christ! Alright folks, I can enjoy all the wonders of Pandora with the fanboy calm of knowing the the beautiful carnage of BATTLE ANGEL ALITA is in the distant future as a possibility. It will rip the spine clean from everything else. At least, that's what I imagine. So - GOOD NEWS!
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I hope not.
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That is all
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Woo Hoo!
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Things pretty dry up around your house?
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Don't care about Avatar, or Battle Angel. I just want THE ABYSS on Blu-Ray already. How long have we been waiting for a decent home video release of that title?
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He's lost days on the crapper.
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So let it be done.
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Because that's the only way I'll watch another Avatar.
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May 8, 2012, 3:05 p.m. CST
I loved Avatar on a visual level, and can't wait for part 2. But I'd rather have Battle Angel first...
by Jay
The original 9 Battle Angel Alta mangas (Not the Last Order shit) are amazing. I really think Cameron could once again bring something we've never seen to the screen. I really wish Viz would get their act together because some of the volumes have gone OOP for whatever reason. It makes no sense to have Vol 1 - 5 available for 9 dollars, than 7 & 8 (Or whichever vol are OOP) sold out and selling for 99 on ebay. I wish they'd release 3 BigViz editions and give fans the pleasure to read it, which is exactly what they did with DragonBall mangas. It's ridiculous to make fans hunt this shit down, when in 5 minutes I can have them for free on my Ipad.
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Cameron isn't the youngest of directors anymore, and based on his limited (but great) output over 30 years I'd hate to see him spending his twilight years putting out sequels to Avatar, there's a whole universe outside of Pandora. Give us what Tom Arnold really wants, True Lies 2
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May 8, 2012, 3:13 p.m. CST
Thanks Knowles; Why never ask if Schwarzenegger is in AVATAR 2 or BATTLE ANGEL
by ABking
Thanks Harry! Why doesn't any interviewer (like yourself) not flat out ask if Schwarzenegger will be in AVATAR 2 or even BATTLE ANGEL??????? I mean, we all loved the dream team back in the day of SCHWARZENEGGER/CAMERON....didn't we?!
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i think James Cameron is currently in a position to actually change the world. he's made this little movie AVATAR, which has been seen by hundreds of millions of people and made more money than any other movie before... and now he's working on two or more sequels. now in AVATAR, what we got is a future high-tech mankind that still lives in a monetary system and has basically fucked up their planet so much that now they have to start raiding other planets for resources... don't forget, the soldiers in the movie aren't military, they are mercenaries that work for a profit-oriented company. and this mankind encounters another intelligent species on a distant moon... a species that lives in harmony (dynamic equilibrium) with its environment, on a moon that has a natural neural network that can connect all living beings there. the first movie has told us about the first major conflict between that species, the Na'vi, and a group of humans, a conflict that doesn't really solve anything in a sustainable manner... mankind is still stuck in a greedy monetary system, Earth is still getting fucked up, and the Na'vi have defended their home... for now... of course we know that the sequels will bring us lots of incredible action and great drama and amazing visual effects in 3D and 60fps or more... but what about the story? how can Cameron end this in a way that really makes sense? personally, i can't think of any other possibility than this: mankind will learn from the Na'vi and start a high-tech society based on harmony with the environment (aka a Resource-Based Economy). this could be on Earth, or on another planet (maybe in the same solar system that Pandora is in?). in any case, it would be an AWESOME message to the world, to the hundreds of millions of people who are basically guaranteed to see those sequels, and it could open the world's eyes to the possibility of an RBE. now is this all wishful thinking? isn't James Cameron a commercial filmmaker, working for major Hollywood studios? well, yes and no. first of all, Cameron is a genius. :) this is just my personal opinion, but i think he's easily smart enough to understand the possibility and necessity of an RBE. second, he's always been "one of us". just look at his movie THE ABYSS. this was terribly edited down for its theatrical release (obviously before Cameron had gained the influence to get HIS movie into theaters), but anyone who has ever seen the Special Edition knows that the true message of the movie is very, well, "zeitgeisty". and it's also there in the first 2 TERMINATOR films, even though some people have made those movies into "enemies", due to their alleged message of "evil machines taking over mankind", which is BS because the machines in these movies aren't just machines, they are WAR-machines. so they have been programmed by humans to be weapons, and Skynet has been programmed to eliminate all threats, and when they attack it, it fights back. so it's not like some people say, that the machines in these movies simply become evil and kill all humans. instead, the messages of the TERMINATOR movies are that the weapons we create can and will be turned against us, and that there is no fate but what we make for ourselves. that is what Cameron wanted to tell us with these movies, if you ask me. and again, if you watch the Extended Special Edition of T2, the ending shows a peaceful high-tech future. even TITANIC was a social metaphor for Cameron, relating to the different strata in our society, as well as the ecological collision course that our way of life is on right now. he describes that very clearly in his final words of the documentary TITANIC: THE FINAL WORD WITH JAMES CAMERON. (http://youtu.be/DLo1OvK3ltE) also, don't forget some of Cameron's other very eco-oriented documentaries. and finally, third, James Cameron now has the power to make the movies he wants to make, without any studio being able to edit anything out. he can tell the story he wants to tell, and nobody in any studio on the planet is going to tell him what to do, because they know that AVATAR 2 and 3 together will make about 6 billion dollars. so let's sum that up once more: we have a director who obviously has the sensibility for global social and ecological topics, who has warned humanity about the possible results of our current ways in previous movies, who has the means and the power to basically make and release any movie he wants, and who has a story at hand that literally demands an outcome that is, for all intents and purposes, an RBE. and if he brings such a vision of a peaceful society, which is no longer based on monetary profit and greed, but rather on cooperation and sharing and a dynamic equilibrium with the environment, to hundreds of millions of people in an entertaining way, then who knows... he could actually change the world.
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At least they could CGI his muscles back on!
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May 8, 2012, 3:30 p.m. CST
So when he said he would only ever make Avatar films for the rest of his life....
by Jaster Mareel
That meant........WHAAAAA? He's bought the rights to all kinds of shit and not done anything with it. There was a short-lived comic, I believe by Image, called FATHOM, that he bought the rights to. Kind of a dopey, but well drawn, story about some underwater nymph bitch. I don't know why he felt he needed to buy the rights to that as there has been nary a whiff of news on it in like a decade.
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He put the best parts in Dark Angel anyway.
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May 8, 2012, 3:44 p.m. CST
I still want Cameron to finish the Terminator series with a bang. - playmo.tv is the shit
by Bjarni
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Cameron unlike most legendary director still makes iconic films. I do wish he would direct a comic book movie before he retires. I guess a manga film will have to do.
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May 8, 2012, 3:47 p.m. CST
Okay, so he's going to do Avatar sequels, Battle Angel Alita, documentaries, deep-sea exploring, asteroid mining, anything else?
by Mr. Pricklepants
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May 8, 2012, 4 p.m. CST
Enough already. Give Zeram to someone who cares and stick to dull Pandora.
by borisdoris
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May 8, 2012, 4:08 p.m. CST
Would be a good world if Cameron chose to give us a proper Terminator movie set in the bleak future war ...
by Judge Briggs
DROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL...
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I can assure you, that is not even remotely true. Beyond the genetically-engineered-female-warrior aspect, the two really have nothing in common. At all...
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May 8, 2012, 4:10 p.m. CST
Merrick already covered this *news* in April : http://www.aintitcool.com/node/55059
by justmyluck
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My guess is that the production thing is only down temporary and likely a lot of production stuff has already been done on Battle Angel. Cameron will do Avatar 2 & 3 back to back. Then move on to Battle Angel, then back to Avatar 4? The thing is even Battle Angel will take a trilogy to tell in full, and that's not even including the Last Order stuff, though I figure Cameron will likely stick with the original books before Last Order. Well, who knows? Maybe Last Order will finish and Cameron can cut the fat out of that and include some of the good stuff in the final film? Cameron could have two big franchises on his plate. Avatar and Battle Angel. My guess is that Avatar 2 & 3 will tire him out, and he'll do Battle Angel before tackling a supposed 4th film of Avatar, which let's face it could happen depending on the reception of 2 & 3.
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Agree with the earlier comment, this film has never been given a proper release (the DVD is terrible) Is this ever going to see the light of day?
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May 8, 2012, 5:06 p.m. CST
Avitar seems like a terrible waste for such an innovative film maker with so much more to offer.
by rocketeuropa
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Robot ass kicking robot doesn't really improve it. I thought we were done after Aeon Flux and Salt bombed.
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May 8, 2012, 5:48 p.m. CST
Yes Harry, send another message to your great personal friend, JAMES CAMERON, and ask him when Abyss AND True Lies will be on bluray!
by googamooga
Dammit!
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Seems natural after the advances in 3D he made.
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Great stuff.
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He'll probably be dead before he gets a chance. And honestly, once I finally get Abyss on Bluray I won't really care one way or another if ever does anything else again.
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I love it, even the new series. I'd love to see a movie made of it! or even an anime series
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Along with True Lies. Was mentioned on The Digital Bits a month or so back, there's going to be a big promotion, no doubt with "From the director of Avatar" on the covers.
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The man said he was going to be extremely occupied with developing and finishing is Avatar trilogy (or +1) and his docs of bleeding edge exploration and discovery when asked directly what he will be working on for the forseeable future. How people could not parse his answer in a way that read that he is only and will only ever be interested in making Avatar movies from now until the grave one of the dumbest things on the internet over the past month. Oh well at least AV Club and other professional smartasses got to get in a few more cheap shots and call it a day's work. Stupid internet.
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May 8, 2012, 7:41 p.m. CST
HE WILL BE IN TRANSPORT BETWEEN MARS AND EARTH FROM 2014-2034. GONNA BE A LONG WAIT FOR BATTLE ANGEL.
by Darth Busey
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May 8, 2012, 8:03 p.m. CST
Hopefully, Cameron has taken the Avatar criticims to heart, otherwise, he may have fallen along with the greats.
by CodeName
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May 8, 2012, 8:19 p.m. CST
I might care about James Cameron's future plans if he were still the same James Cameron who made Terminator, Aliens, and True Lies, and not the megalomaniacal nut who made Titanic and Avatar.
by TheyPeedOnYourFuckingRug
But as it is, I don't know where the guy who used to make great movies went.
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May 8, 2012, 8:19 p.m. CST
Battle Angel Alita seems like the kind of thing he could farm out to someone else, give em the money and equipment and blessing and watch the money roll in.
by NeonFrisbee
While focusing on "Avatar 12" and "That's Right, I Like The Ocean Alot" documentary volume 19.
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May 8, 2012, 8:21 p.m. CST
Which is to say that even if Cameron were to return to the Terminator franchise, I'd have little faith in what he might do with it given where his head seems to be now. Lucas redux.
by TheyPeedOnYourFuckingRug
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May 8, 2012, 10:53 p.m. CST
Alita is a great manga and anime, no doubt, but what more can Cameron tell us with the story?
by CodeName
Had Cameron made this in the 90's, before the advent of the Matrix, or maybe even a little after the first Matrix movie, Battle Angel may have been, dare I say the word... relevant. But many manga, television shows (Cameron's own Dark Angel), video games, and movies have borrowed recurring themes from the likes of Battle Angel and Ghost in the Shell that if Cameron were to make this movie, it would mirror the shortfalls of John Carter. I wouldn't be surprised to hear people complaining about how Battle Angel "ripped off" the Matrix, or whatever movie, and yadayadah and so on. I'm still not confident in Cameron after Avatar, but I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt until I see the Avatar sequel. If the Avatar sequel sucks, then we all know that Cameron has lost his touch. After exhausting himself with possibly 4 Avatar films, I am not so sure how much more Cameron can add to the table with the Battle Angel Alita. Like some talkbackers proposed, Cameron should reboot himself and maybe go back and do another Alien, or Terminator to test the waters. But this is just my opinion. Cameron can do whatever he wants. Just saying we don't need a 90's cyberpunk femme fatale-based movie.
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Seriously, can the man make a film? Fuck yeah he can. Is he currently up to his eyebrows in "I'm so important". Sure is. As many have said already in this thread and its predecessors James Cameron appears to have left the building. I imagine a bunch of famous directors on top of a building near central park all wearing unlicensed nuclear accellerators on their backs. Spielberg looks over at Cameron who starts babbling about making 3-4 more Avatar movies and then asks Whedon "What have you got Joss? James has gone bye-bye". He's in full-on Lucas mode now. He may never come back.
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Well, fuck. I had 0 interest before one way or another. Now I'm actively rooting for it to fail if it's some anime bullshit.
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Because success allows them to do more stuff that I may end up liking. But truthfully, I also have no interest in BAA because it's an anime property. That shit just isn't my thing. Hopefully Cameron would make it interesting, though.
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I'm just figuring that the budget he's going to be given is on such a ridiculous level that he could make as many of them as he wants. The tech costs should be much lower this time around, so the giant budget means even MORE money to put towards the filming, locations, effects, etc.
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Unoriginal plot, wholesale dialogue, hammy acting - and worst of all - DULL!
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It's just a stunning movie. I have absolutely no quarrels with the predictable story, because it is and always will be a resonant one when it's told well. Cameron was well aware the story has been told before, but it was what he wanted to tell. And hell, he still managed to present it in a way that has never been done before. There's a reason this movie has made almost 1.5 billion more then any other ever, and it's not 3D; it's because it connected with audiences on a deeper level. My only gripes with the movie is that Cameron could have changed some silly dialogue here and there. Other then that it's a movie that I still watch in total awe how someone actually put together a movie like this, something that's mostly CG and motion-capture yet feels SO real and organic. Without knowing how it was made (and modern movies in general), one could easily think Cameron actually discovered this planet and filmed it. And the action scenes are thoroughly fantastic. The end battle with Quaritch in the mech fighting with Jake whilst simultaneously going after human Jake in the avatar link-up is just masterful. And it never feels like CGI characters fighting, it feels like real people.
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no see.....I agree with some most of what u say, but I still want far stronger stories/scripts for the sequals...... Anway...so awsome to hear he will still do BAA....
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I thought it was boring, silly, simple-minded, dreck.
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May 9, 2012, 1:18 a.m. CST
Iron Jim is talking big but he'll get the itch again to do something else. It'll happen eventually, and probably not just Alita.
by reflecto
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Watch the anime then make a judgement, Battle Angel the manga and the anime are a BEAUTIFUL thing.
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seems like Cameron is going to spend (waste) the rest of his life making tree hugger (environmental) movies with a message instead of giving us some kick ass new sci-fi mythology...the days of T2 and Aliens is over...now we're stuck with blue smurfs protecting their trees while the greedy humans try and steal their 'unobtanium'
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May 9, 2012, 3:24 a.m. CST
semi-Avatar 2/3/4 related: THE HOBBIT@48FPS may be dirtied-up or muddied-up to look less *video-like*!
by justmyluck
From CinemaCon attendee Phil Contrino, editor of BoxOffice.com (11 minutes in): http://www.awardsdaily.com/podcasts/oscarpoker/episode77.mp3 This is EXACTLY what I wrote here, over a year ago, on April 11, 2012: Producer: *Well, with the increased clarity and smoothness, we had to give everything some extra cinematic pancake throughout the pipeline.* Studio: *Help me here. Your films use CGI heavily. What does extra cinematic pancake have to do with the ultra-high-clarity image you promised to deliver?* Producer: *Err...um...it's progress?* http://www.aintitcool.com/node/49234 Yes, over a fucking YEAR ago.
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....edit button....grumble, grumble, grrrr....
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I SEE IT! http://batstud.blogspot.com/
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except when its battle angel. Make your mind up you tool.
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Now, bring on AVATAR 2! Is it 2015 already?
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May 9, 2012, 7:46 a.m. CST
AVATAR WAS FINE. THAT'S IT FINE. BUT EXCEPTIONAL LIKE T2, ALIENS, TERMINATOR OR EVEN TRUE LIES. PLEASE JIM DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT TO AVATAR
by ilovemichealbay
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Are you fucking blind?
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shut up.
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May 9, 2012, 9:14 a.m. CST
Avatar was heavy-handed and derivative, but it was still a cool / fun flick that looked amazing. Don't understand the hate. I suspect it's largely forced. Because, you know, like, "everything sucks" in the eternal mother's basement of the soul.
by NeonFrisbee
You can shoot huge gaping holes in the heavy-handed preaching and derivativeness (I know, not a word) of Avatar, but it was still a good movie. Not as good as Aliens or Terminator, but better than the Abyss, Terminator 2 (which is good, but WAY overrated, imho), Titanic, and the inspid True Lies. I think the backlash is largely backwash.
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May 9, 2012, 9:18 a.m. CST
Great, so instead of Battle Angel, we get more 10-foot, blue Gungans running about? Meesa hope-a Messa Jimmy changin' hizzen mind...
by obijuanmartinez
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May 9, 2012, 10:02 a.m. CST
He did finish the terminator series. It ends with Arnold lowering into lava destroying the skynet paradox time-line
by UltraTron
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May 9, 2012, 10:03 a.m. CST
Or it ends with the attack on sky-net in the ride. Take your pick
by UltraTron
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May 9, 2012, 10:06 a.m. CST
For anyone who thinks that the world doesn't need reminders that it's being destroyed. Since avatar we've had a nuclear reactor meltdown and we've watched as our news handled it..
by UltraTron
with the truth of John Lovitz
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May 9, 2012, 10:13 a.m. CST
Avatar was the greatest Star Trek movie ever made. You could call it Star Trek:Fuck the Prime Directive.
by UltraTron
The federation invades a populace with cloned avatars and goes so far as to set up a school to teach the indigenous english for the sake of re-locating them off the oil.. Er I mean they roust Iraqi college students out of bed and spirit them away never to be heard from again for the crimes of living on top of an oil site.. Er I mean the federation vaporizes farmers and their children living on top of a good no-contract Halliburton dig-site.. Er I mean the world is completely aware of all the myriad crimes against humanity, the environment, the fact that we're all getting bone cancer from the spewing death.. We don't need James Cameron reminding us about it and it will all go away if we continue to ignore it
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This is the most recent post I could find regarding a blu-ray release for "The Abyss" ... Take it for what it's worth ... http://www.thedigitalbits.com/rumormill.html
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It just sounds more interesting, plus would be different. He shouldn't do the same thing each time, and wait a movie or two in between.
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May 9, 2012, 12:47 p.m. CST
I'm not sure about him taking on Alita because I'd prefer it to look like a proper film, and not a 3D CGI cartoon like Avatar was.
by Ecto-1
Taking into account how many years he's gonna be tied up with Avatar films, I think farming it out to another director with Cameron being a producer on it would be a good move.
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..fuck about this story? Fuck japanese anime. Some boring, boring shit.
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Makes you look so good when you say a movie like Avatar sucked. Like you could have made something better right? Your ideas and knowledge of film and hell, storytelling are so much higher, correct? Whatever movies you like or don't like, I don't give a fuck. Here's some uncool words on the internet for you: Avatar was awesome. Fuck you. BTW Never thought once about Dances with Wolves or Pocahontas the entire time I viewed it. Ferngully, maybe a little...
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Wouldn't it be better if he let go of the property so someone else can make it sooner? Why celebrate that someone is essentially just IP squatting?
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Because Avatar $equels are guaranteed $$$$ and Alita would be a risk. Would be nice if someone continued/rebooted the anime, though. Anime these days has gotten so shitty though with this "moe" crap that I don't get. Nothing good gets made anymore.
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May 9, 2012, 2:54 p.m. CST
Still HATE Avatar! HAAAAAAAAAAATE! Great visuals + great CGI - great story - great actors = shit movie
by MariusXe
Don't get why the geek comunity likes it. The dumb as fuck general audience, all right, but we guys? WTF?
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May 9, 2012, 4:05 p.m. CST
@godhelpus: You sir, are a complete knob-end. It's called HAVING AN OPINION. Get a clue!
by obijuanmartinez
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May 9, 2012, 6:30 p.m. CST
Basically if you didn't like Avatar you're just a stupid little cunt and nobody gives a fuck.
by UltraTron
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May 9, 2012, 11:01 p.m. CST
For anyone here that hasn't been exposed to Battle Angel Alita
by lv_426
1st part of episode one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMKle5if-80 The whole OVA should still be on Youtube as well.
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May 9, 2012, 11:03 p.m. CST
Perhaps a new anime adaptation of Battle Angel Alita would be best for now?
by lv_426
That way we'd get something closer to the actual manga, while Cameron's film in a decade from now could be a bit different being that it will be live action and the fact that he will probably change/adapt things to make it work as a 2-3 hour film.
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May 9, 2012, 11:27 p.m. CST
Directors are always throwing around these grandiose statements about their careers...
by Von_Trierstein
... and then they balk on them like a few months later. He's was just being dramatic. Remember when Soderbergh wasn't going to make movies anymore? How long did that last, like a few weeks?
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Im tired of you making us wait for shit. Your movies are great...but stop making us anticipate movies that you are planning for the next 10 years, Jim. You didn't give us anything for 12 years between Titanic and Avatar, which means you don't give a shit about us fans. Do something useful with your billions of dollars and love of technology and solve the world's energy crisis or something. If you really loved the art of cinema, you would be making movies all the time, like Spielberg. And it is possible to get your message across without limiting yourself to the Avatar universe. To me, your just retiring from film making.
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May 10, 2012, 9:36 a.m. CST
All I want to know is which one of you guys killed Gavin Smith? Ya know?
by UltraTron
So I can thank you.
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I'm very fired up for the next "Avatar" film. All of Jim's energy should be focused on it. The film will probably do what "Aliens" did for "Alien," that is, up the stakes, bring full-scale war into play, and twist our heads with something no one saw coming. Whereas "Battle Angel" has already been written and many know the ending. Give me originality any day of the week.
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That is all I want.
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May 12, 2012, 1:07 a.m. CST
I'm willing to put fake money on the table that Cameron has lost it. Those who support Cameron are likened to the North Koreans who falsely worship Kim Jong-il.
by CodeName
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You had to be C or D students..or worse. He never said he was never going to anything other than Avatar. He said right now that's all he's focusing on and not working on any other films.
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