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20th Century Fox Confirms That PROMETHEUS Will Be Rated...
... R for "sci-fi violence including intense images, and brief language."
Beaks here with the final word on The Great PROMETHEUS Rating Kerfuffle. Turns out those fears of 20th Century Fox releasing a PG-13 ALIEN-ish movie from Ridley Scott were unfounded. They got an R from the MPAA, and are fully backing Scott's vision. Everybody wins!
The news basically broke last night when IMDb user dvonnesoneek posted a picture of his IMAX PROMETHEUS ticket. Now (via Collider) it's been confirmed by Fox.
So there you go: The R-rated PROMETHEUS opens theatrically on June 8th, 2012.
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Ratings debates are to AICN as "Very Special Episodes" are to 80s sitcoms--a lot of hype and bother over something that has no importance whatsoever.
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Smoke Monster = PG-13 goodness
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May 7, 2012, 1:02 p.m. CST
Will Charlize Theron doing push-ups naked be one of those Intense Images?
by StarWarsRedux
Because honestly, along with the excitement of Ridley returning to sci-fi, that's what I wanna see.
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I pictured Walter White on the phone.... *I Won...*
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May 7, 2012, 1:04 p.m. CST
No nudity? Damn it! I am dying to see that girl from Sherlock Holmes naked!
by antonphd
kidding
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May 7, 2012, 1:04 p.m. CST
So it's official, penis vagina snake arm rape = R rating
by Domi'sInnerChild
I was wondering how that was going to go over at the local PTA Jr. High meeting.
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I keep hearing you guys chatter about it in Prometheus talkbacks, but I've never seen anything in any trailer that would remotely suggest such a thing.
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At least until a new poster is released that used PhotoShop.
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I had zero doubt that it would be rated R.
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May 7, 2012, 1:06 p.m. CST
so there's advanced previews currently going on around the country?
by Titus05
oh and very good news about the R rating...although that will probably hurt the overall box office numbers...definitely won't be seeing 'Avengers' type of $$ on opening weekend
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May 7, 2012, 1:08 p.m. CST
I HOPE ITS NOT A WATERED DOWN R RATING, BUT STILL GREAT NEWS
by ilovemichealbay
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...there's no way the film was going to be PG-13. The fact it was rated 15 here in the UK kind of gave that one away.
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I have no fucking clue what the Smoke Monster has to do with this either. I just like the guy.
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Praise be to Cthulhu.
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an R rated sci-fi thriller? Count me and my $ in.
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Make it PG-13 and more accessible to a wider audience. That just makes better money-making sense. If it's going to be R because of language and extreme gore, those kinds of things can be toned way back and still make for an enjoyable movie. Bad move, ratings board.
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Fuck my eyeballs at the same time. (On another note, back in the day Sigourney wearing a tiny panty and no bra under the tank top was pretty sexy. Hope there's something sexier this time.)
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May 7, 2012, 1:21 p.m. CST
ilovemichael bay: re: "watered down R rating". You're just pulling my pony, right? RIGHT??
by tom
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Yep, Theron was doing naked press-ups, in said-trailer.......I'm guessing circa 90 minutes prior, to her mutating into the Starbeast....
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..but what about both Rapace and Therons' bushes......?
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May 7, 2012, 1:28 p.m. CST
I'll believe it when I see it. After 'Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back' showed up as PG-13 at a sneak screening, I never know who to trust.
by Kamaji
I kid you not. I worked at a movie theater, and J&SBSB glowed on the marquee as being PG-13.
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That's exactly why it SHOULD be rated R. The violence and extreme gore are an important part of the movie and need to be respected. You're not going to look at a painting and think "Oh, it's a great painting, but I fucking hate flowers. Can we take the flowers out?" Besides, the R rating keeps out the damned kids. Do you really want a whining, bitchy group of teens walking into a serious science-fiction movie?
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According to Guillermo Del Toro at Slashfilm, that is. He thinks Prometheus has beaten him to the punch.
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May 7, 2012, 1:31 p.m. CST
da b-meister, film makers should be allowed to make the film they want to make
by gunnarcannibal
Not everything has to be The Avengers. No film maker should have to pull any punches just because they want to sell toys or a get a fast food deal. Yeah, let's make a blockbuster like Alien PG-13 so a bunch of dumbass kids can see it, let's make Silence of the Lambs PG-13 as well! How about Gladiator or The Shining? I love me some fun PG-13 summer action nonsense but this is something a little more elevated and important, it is more than just a product and it shouldn't have to fit that "fun for the kids" mold that more and more movies are forced to fit into. Besides, this is for fans of Ridley Scott and Alien, not too many under 17 persons in that bracket anyway.
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Saw the trailer on SAFE and it said june 1st UK ?
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Now let's just pray that Lindelof didn't fuck the script.
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And it still got an R?
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May 7, 2012, 1:41 p.m. CST
in canada, if its rated r in the states, itll be rated pg 13 here, no lie, how it usual works, always drops down one
by Daniel
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And Fox and Scott to their credit said the cut they submitted would stand regardless of rating. Of course they submitted it thinking the violence sans tits and f-bombs would would get it a so-called hard pg13. This is good news, though. It means there's some disturbing shit going on. I'd still expect a director's cut on blu ray, tho.
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May 7, 2012, 1:44 p.m. CST
I've read some stupid-ass comments on these talkbacks, but da b-meister's comment tops them all.
by jawsfan
The only justification I can think for his comment is that he is a fifteen year old kid who worries he won't get to see it in the theater now that it has been rated R. If that's the case, then he needs to get over it. We all went through that to some degree and we managed to survive. You will too. Plus, you still get to legally fuck high school girls and the rest of us don't, so you win anyway.
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What gets released as R in Canada then? Midnight Cowboy?
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I saw the trailer before two AVENGERS screenings, and let's say the audience was not exactly engrossed. I heard a few audible WTFs and no enthusiasm from the crowd. Seemed most of them had no idea what they were seeing. I know Scott's trying to keep this thing under wraps, but if they're too secretive, no one's going to give a shit.
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May 7, 2012, 1:48 p.m. CST
I bet da b-meister wishes that John Carpenter's "The Thing" had been PG (there was no PG-13 back then).
by jawsfan
Then we could have seen the studio change "You gotta be fucking kidding" to "Wow, that's highly unusual!". They could also have changed "I'd rather not spend the rest of this winter TIED TO THIS FUCKING COUCH!" to something more PG-ish like "Gentlemen, I'd be most appreciative if you would loosen these bindings so that I may continue with my daily routine UNENCUMBERED BY THEM!"
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May 7, 2012, 1:48 p.m. CST
I swore blind to a friend this was going to be a PG13..
by Righteous Brother
I'm going to look quite the twat.
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Funny enough, I'm 15 and typing this from a school computer. Still fully support the R rating.
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May 7, 2012, 1:56 p.m. CST
BEST NEWS ALL DAY!!! AWESOME!! THEY AREN'T GONNA FUCK US!!!
by MENTALDOMINANCE
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Big shoes to fill I know.
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I know they needed to get that trailer on Avengers (and I'm in the "gotta see Avengers/Prometheus/DKR" crowd), but it felt really weird seeing it with Frankenweenie and Brave with bunch of 5-year-olds around me. DKR had a similar somber reaction from the crowd. It's tough to go dark in front of a movie basically built as mass market as you can get.
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2001 today would be a PG. Think about it.
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class! hahahaha
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May 7, 2012, 2:07 p.m. CST
@lambcamera -- good for you! (Supporting the R rating, not Internet surfing in school. Hee hee)
by jawsfan
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TAKE MY MONEY. OVER AND OVER. I AM PLEASED.
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May 7, 2012, 2:09 p.m. CST
I didn't get a Promethes trailer in front of the screening of "Avengers" I went to. No TDKR either.
by jawsfan
But I got "Brave" and "Madagascar 3". Whoopee.
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I have no interest in The Avengers, as I'm not a comic book nerd. Sure, I'll check it out on bd when the time comes, but I was hardly excited for it. This is the only movie I'm genuinely excited about *... All my money's riding on this mf'er. * Well, maybe that new Cronenberg movie... and the future Arnold Schwarzenegger flics as fun diversions and nostalgia trips. But really, Prometheus is it.
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once in 3D and got Prometheus trailer...similar kind of quiet no reaction from the audience which worried me...then I saw it again in 2D and got TDKR and that too got a meh reaction as well and we know that movie is gonna make bank so I think Avengers audiences were really just there for Avengers and didn't care about anything else
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May 7, 2012, 2:24 p.m. CST
The trailer in front of Avengers scared the shit out of my daughter
by Turd Furgeson
She said 'I don't think I want to see that one.' I burst out laughing and said 'you don't have to its probably rated r so it's an older kids movie.. She said 'good cause I didn't like that preview.' hahahaja!
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May 7, 2012, 2:24 p.m. CST
It's been cited further up the thread, but it bears repeating: DOES MY 16 DOLLARS COVER CHARLIZE THERON NUDE PUSHUPS IN IMAX 3D?
by Doctor_Strangepork
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If Prometheus succeeds, it proves there's a viable market for big-budget R-rated sci-fi horror, and the-powers-that-be will be looking to make more. I get what Guillermo's saying about the similarities between the two, but that's like saying "damn, The Avengers is making a kazillion dollars, so I guess we can't make a Justice League film any more." Nonsense.
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It varies from province to province but your PG-13 can either be a PG or 14A(examples: Spider-Man= PG while The Dark Knight got 14A) sometimes an R can be a PG like in There Will Be Blood's case, it was rated PG I'm Canada but R in the states. It's very unusual for PG-13 movies to be any higher than PG but it does happen every so often. We do have an R rating that was only been used once or twice since the new rating system came out but it prohibits anyone, parent or no parent, under the age of 18 to watch the movie. 14A and 18A are the Canadian equalivant of an R 95% of the time. The "a" basically stands for adult accompaniment if it you aren't at least 14 or 18
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Now show some titties!!
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May 7, 2012, 2:46 p.m. CST
Here's the REAL question: is it Rated R because "we tried really hard to get PG-13 but they gave us an R. Oops. Here it is." or rated-R as in "Fuck it, let's go for an R-rating!"
by Tall_Boy6t6
I'm guessing it's the former. Doesn't matter to me, I'm Canadian and in Ontario and I guarantee it'll be 14A up here anyway.
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May 7, 2012, 2:49 p.m. CST
tall_boy - totally agree!! I say, if it's R than put BACK in the tits and F-bombs!!
by rhizomeman
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May 7, 2012, 2:56 p.m. CST
Ya, but if you put 'em back in you have to re-submit for a rating
by Tall_Boy6t6
Is it too close to release to do that? Well, probably not but do they care and/or know? Yay R-rating, but let's not kid ourselves - it's Rated R because they tried to get a PG-13. Thankfully they had the balls to put it out like R-rating, like wow, but we're getting the "we thought we could get PG-13 here. Whoops." cut.
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May 7, 2012, 2:56 p.m. CST
But thank you, anonymous faceless greedy corporation for putting it out R-rated
by Tall_Boy6t6
Well, to be fair, it's only gonna be R-rated for you folks in the USA, but it's the thought that counts.
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May 7, 2012, 3:03 p.m. CST
ALL I WANNA KNOW IS...who the crap at AICN has a time machine that let them go forward and purchase that TICKET!!!
by Dogmatic
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May 7, 2012, 3:04 p.m. CST
When I saw that last trailer I thought to myself "If this gets PG - 13 I'm a fucking monkey "
by ChickenStu
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After the week early release of The Avengers over here, this is great news. Probably because of the European Football Championships which start on June 8th. Thank you football!!!
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May 7, 2012, 3:23 p.m. CST
da b-meister, you really are stupid beyond all belief!!
by david starling
So let me understand this - a movie, of which has been rated "R" not just due to what's on-screen, but also the concepts of what is happening on screen, you would rather sell to a bunch of minors, of whom really shouldn't be watching it. And Ridley Scott has to compromise his vision of his work, and thus ruin his art, for the common buck. In other words - screw how long it has taken to be made, lets just go hoola all over it and water it down, because the resultant mess, that really doesn't make any sense, is fine to you? I would hope Ridley Scott would tell you to f^&k off at the very least. If Ridley Scott had provided a PG-13 movie that was intended to be, then fine. But its now become obvious that this movie is not a PG-13, and won't ever be. At the same time though - bravo to Ridley Scott, and 20th Century Fox, for providing an adult alternative to the otherwise ultra-saccharine family fare of the summer. I love summer movies, I really do, but it has become a glut of the same old"superheroes and pirates" over the last few years. Ridley Scott is back with (hopefully) some thought-provoking sci-fi/horror!!
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May 7, 2012, 3:26 p.m. CST
After hearing that sound clip, I couldn't imagine how it would be anything less than R-rated.
by strosmer
That sound clip brought back memories from some of the most horrific sci-fi movies I've ever seen (among them - "Galaxy of Terror"!). When I heard it, it was pretty clear there was no way this could be a PG-13 movie. Can't fucking wait!
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May 7, 2012, 3:27 p.m. CST
So did they submit Ridley's R rated director's cut or a softer cut that they thought might have a better chance of getting PG-13?
by Kevin D
That is the all important question. Then again, they could have submitted both cuts, the cut they thought might have a chance to get the PG-13 rating and then the cut they knew would get an R rating. I'll be honest that I figured it would get an R rating but Ridley is correct in his opinions of the MPAA needing to "get their house in order". One instance where I couldn't believe that they gave a PG-13 rating to was the 2010 horror film "The Last Exorcism". There was stuff in that movie that I was surprised that they got away with and even though the last 3 minutes were complete crap, I was truly stunned that it got a PG-13. I'm glad that Prometheus is getting released R rated and not being cut but I hope that we're getting the true R rated cut and not the one intended for a possible PG-13 that might have still gotten an R. Can anybody at AICN verify if they submitted both cuts?
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May 7, 2012, 3:32 p.m. CST
Without a doubt the Gutsiest move by a Studio in a decade...
by conspiracy
$200M+ riding on a hard "R: rated Sci-fi/Horror film...fucking Balls. Glad I"m not the guy making this call...
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May 7, 2012, 3:35 p.m. CST
Think about this for a minute..It is rated "R" for violence and some language only...
by conspiracy
no nudity, no sexual situations, no Strong language are listed... Fuuuck...what kind of nightmare has Ridley put in this thing it warrants an "R" without the usual suspects?!?! I'm gonna wear Depends to this motherfucker
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I'd watch it if it was a 'U' (Is that a 'G' in the states?) I'm getting more stoked to see this everyday. Its a great time to be a film fan.
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May 7, 2012, 3:45 p.m. CST
I to got Prometheus and Dark Knight trailers before Avengers..
by conspiracy
This film looks great on the big screen...When the Prometheus trailer ended some dude behind me said..."Fuuuuck!" I think that about sums it up.
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May 7, 2012, 3:47 p.m. CST
if the movie is amazing then hopefully word of mouth will increase box office
by smudgewhat
and also, i want to congratulate Ridley and the producers of the movie for going full guns on this thing. it doesn't happen often and i appreciate the ballz.
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just for language
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Gigantic BALLS!
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I saw "The Avengers" yesterday and saw both "TDKR" and "Prometheus" trailers. The crowd reaction was similar to what many of you have been saying. Big anticipation for Batman and curious whispering about Prometheus. I realized that these people in the audience don't visit movie sites or read Sci-Fi /Entertainment literature and they have no idea what Prometheus is about. They don't get the Prometheus = Alien prequel thing that we have known about for months. They have no idea what a Space Jockey is or have no idea what or where LV-426 is. To them Prometheus looks like it's just another Sci Fi flick where a crew finds a monster on a planet. That could be a big problem with the marketing of the movie. The general movie going public already knows about the success of Nolan's Batman series, so there is a built in audience waiting for July 20th. Unless Ridley puts out something to directly show a correlation to the Alien franchise he may lose box office to the morons who won't know what they are missing.
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Don't have a heart attack.
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May 7, 2012, 4:06 p.m. CST
Just Wait Till Advance Reviews and Press Tour Begins
by Raskolnikov_was_framed
the actors will sell this movie when they hit up The View, Leno, Letterman, Kimmel etc...then get some of them on Opie and Anthony and Stern and we'll get big results
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May 7, 2012, 4:09 p.m. CST
When people hear there's disturbing shit going on, they'll want to check it out.
by Jethro Bodine
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May 7, 2012, 4:10 p.m. CST
to the idiots: veryfirst, lambcamera, obiwanna, velvetsloane
by Da B-Meister
veryfirst: the story that needs to be told doesn't require the profanity or extreme gore in order to do so. The profanity does nothing to add to it, and the gore can be implied rather than shown and still have the same effect. lambcamera: actually, that's why it does NOT need to be rated R. The violence and gore do not have to be respected, nor do they have to be explicitly shown in order to convey the danger and suspense of the story. Seriously, you think the R rating is going to keep out the kids? When's the last time you've actually set foot in a movie theater? obiwanna: Afraid not, I haven't been 13 for a very long time now. But I'd guess YOU may be 13, judging by how weak an insult you threw out there. Try again, junior. velvet_sloane: You're an imbecile of epic proportions, truly. Your reasoning is the reasoning of an immature 12 year old kid, who just wants to see the gore and hear the profanity because you think it's cool. People with a little more maturity and intellect would be able to enjoy the film just fine without that garbage. Grow up.
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May 7, 2012, 4:23 p.m. CST
I loved hearing all the kids seeing "Avengers" cry when the Prometheus trialled played
by MrEkoLetMeLive
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how do you know the story doesn't require profanity and gore?? did you write it?? guess what mother fucker people swear A LOT in real life, so for this movie to be an honest depiction of people put in the type of situations we think they're gonna be in they're going to swear...if they didn't it wouldn't be natural or realistic let me attach an alien cobra that's breaking your arm and see if you start screaming -oh darn oh dangit!!! ouchy ouchy it really smarts!!!- I bet you'll be yelling -HOLY FUCKING SHIT CUT IT OFF CUT IT OOOOFFFFFFFF- let the adults have their movie where we see people acting like adults
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Explicit language and gore create a sense of realism when people are in extreme situations. For example, an alien just exploded out of your friends chest. What do you say: 1. Gosh darnnit! Damn, holy crap. Wow! 2. Fuck. Goddammit, motherfucker. Shit! Obviously, 2 is what most people would say and brings a sense of realism to the scene. Option 1 takes you out of the scene and movie because that is not how people talk when in extreme situations. That's the crux of the R rated argument - it's about realism and tone.
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May 7, 2012, 4:28 p.m. CST
Went to Avengers early Sat in Times Square. Smaller crowd at that time, but reaction to both DKR and Prometheus was hushed/reverent. Some anticipation, I thought. But I also think it's the demo and the tone. Prometheus is dark and menacing vs Brave or
by reflecto
Audience doesn't know how to parse it.
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May 7, 2012, 4:29 p.m. CST
raskolnikov_was_framed...shit, we just wrote the same message to da b-meister - cool!
by rhizomeman
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May 7, 2012, 4:29 p.m. CST
rhizomeman and I with pretty much the exact same comment
by Raskolnikov_was_framed
maybe if da b-meister reads it twice it'll sink in
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May 7, 2012, 4:36 p.m. CST
what ndaily said, usually when unrated dvds come out, thats what we saw in canada, most so with comedys like american pie and stuff, cause ill watch a dvd and itll be like...that was in theatres, i dont get it...
by Daniel
i remember the first resident evil was r, but i saw all the scream movies as a child in theatres, same with the early scary movies, thats just one example though, its always like that, R here is usually 14a, if its too extreme then its 18a
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May 7, 2012, 4:44 p.m. CST
saw trailer- a little more than I wanted to know, plot-wise
by animatronicmojo
But... damn, this looks good. I have been a huge skeptic of Ridley's whole deal, but I am extremely looking forward to this. I, too, hope that it does well and proves that there is a market for thoughtful, high concept, big budget science fiction films. I've seen some thoughtful small budget ones, but when was the last time that Hollywood laid out this kind of eye candy for a science fiction fantasy adventure that didn't involve men in loin clothes leaping about, lens flares, and/or or cartoonish slapstick? Not that there's not a place for that kind of thing, but it seems like a very long time indeed since we have had a serious science fiction film. Maybe Sunshine came close, but ultimately failed, because it was then pretty much the same plot as Supernova or Event Horizon (ye olde wigged out supernatural serial killer in space). Honestly, this one looks like it could have been just another monster movie, but instead has more intellectual meat, best looking special effects, and perhaps the best cast of any of the previous Alien entries. I do hope not to be disappointed.
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I was thinking that teh film would be PG13, but I had faith that the studio would sit by what Scott has made. I got a Friday night Imax 3D ticket and itr was a provisional 15 which kind of made me pleased. They have stuck by Scott and it will be similar to Alien, though it was not a deal breaker. Some pople seem to be worried that it limits the audience and thus takings but Fox seem to bve in this for the long haul. They are interested in a series of films rather than just one. An R builds some credabilty and longevity. AvP:Requiem could not do the same business as AvP as it had been mortally wounded by that point. The budget was less, and the takings for less. Another thing is that R films are becoming rarer and rarer. They are so rare that some may just go to see this to satiate the mid 80s hunger that has been lacking for so long.
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surely this is some thing he cannot be negative about...
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May 7, 2012, 5:02 p.m. CST
The biggest R rated sci-fi epic since the last Matrix movie. Damn. It's been awhile
by UltraTron
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At work we are making a lot of shows that are police and emergency workers followed 24/7. You do not get people swearing in stressful situations. In fact the language is amazingly tame. Drink makes people swear not stress. As for showing gore, every scene is different and every scene should be cut for its own merits. I am pleased that Prometheus will be a 15 here in the UK. But. They made cuts to Straw Dogs, and while it removed footage it made the rape more unsetling. The cuts - showing less made it more brutal. Also look at the deliberate (and nodding to the audience) pan in Reservoir Dogs when Mr Blonde cuts off the ear. All UK papers said you saw a mans ear cut off, even though nothing was actually shown. The implication was enough, the film played with this. Gore does not necessarily mean "harder." I am sure that Scott could imply much of the horror juast as easily as show it. And lastly... thank God there will be gore in this!!!!
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"...a lot of hype and bother over something that has no importance whatsoever." That's funny you say that, your Mom used that exact phrase when describing your Dad's dick. Or maybe she said 'impotence', it's hard to tell, her mouth was full at the time.
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What are you guys going to do with the staggered release of this. British talkbaggers will be blabbing away like crazy while US talkbackers wait and seethe with anger at not being able to join in or even read what is happening. The Alien films have a massive following here due to talent and location. There will be massive amounts of chatter. Mind you its what happens to us most of the time...
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police and emergency workers are TRAINED for the types of situations they face, they are pros...nobody is trained to be attacked by a scary space monster...reactions would be far different
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My first reaction was "this should shut up the fucktards on aicn." I was wrong. Move along, nothing to see here.
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May 7, 2012, 5:44 p.m. CST
Medics dont just stop gushing blood out of other medics
by ihatetalkbacks
The genral public usually is not trained and is usually there... not swearing unless drunk. Now I havent seen Coors sponsoring Prometheus either. Any way its moot. Its R.
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Why don't you suck some shit out of my asshole and swallow it you stupid fucking cunt?! See you couldn't say that in pg13 and it might be important to say that.
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When Cloverfield came out I thought it was fantastic but couldn't help but be drawn out of it due to the fact that people in New York streets wern't yelling things like, "Shit" "Fuck" "Oh my fucking God!" and the such. I'm sorry, if some big ass monster just ripped the head off the statue of liberty and tossed it down the street like a bowling ball, you too would say "Oh My Fuck!" not, "Oh no, darn. What a shame"
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"What's in the darn box?!"
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Explicit language and gore DO NOTHING to advance a movie. Case in point, Jaws. The gore there was kept to an absolute minimum (as was the language) and still it remains one of the most revered movies of all time. It's a prime example of how a movie can still be realistic, scary, and enjoyable without going to unnecessary extremes. That's an utterly moronic statement on your part to say that your "option 1" takes you out of the scene or movie. The fact is, there is no sound or logical argument for the "pro profanity and gore" crowd. People just want to hear and see those things because they're immature idiots and instead of being above talking like trash, they revel in it.
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We were getting dangerously close to a world where every single tentpole film was stamped out by some cookie cutter calibrated to get a PG-13 by doing the same things previous PG-13 films did. This is boring and people have other entertainment choices. Having one content standard for every film was what the Hays Code once was and its ultimate failure is why the ratings system exists in the first place. There's no point in a ratings system if every film has the same rating. Using a system designed as a parental advisory as a marketing tool is about as fucked up as using a military anti-torture training as a how-to manual to torture enemies. Oh wait, we did that.
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May 7, 2012, 6:54 p.m. CST
Does anyone prefer the censored versions of their favorite R-rated movies when they're on tv?
by Nerd Rage
Okay sometimes the replacements for the bad words is funny but other than that it's fucking lame.
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He said he could smell my hop-hoo
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-- or R-3D?
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May 7, 2012, 7:03 p.m. CST
DO YOU GUYS REALIZE WHAT A HUGE, EPIC DECISION THIS IS, FOR FOX TO APPROVE OF THIS AS AN "R" RATED FILM...???!!!
by Astronut
I mean, this shit is epic, y'all. A $200+ million sci-fi film ---- an ORIGINAL HIGH CONCEPT, BIG IDEA FILM ---- NOT TIED TO A LICENSE... This is got-damned awesome with a capital A. Anyone who bitches that it's not a watered-down PG-13 cut should have their fucking geek card revoked. For REAL. This is Ridley's ORIGINAL VISION. I swear I would love to bitch-slap the faggots who say they want anything less. The original visionary behind ALIEN and fucking BLADE RUNNER ---- returning to sci-fi after some 30 years, doing an ORIGINAL SCI-FI CONCEPT LIKE THIS ---- and some A-holes are crying that it's an "R." Give me a FUCKING BREAK. Can't WAIT for this. Can't WAIT.
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Well that’s great, that’s just bloody great, man. Now what the heck are we supposed to do? We’re in some real pretty poop now man. That’s it man, game over man, game over! What the heck are we gonna do now?
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Bum heads!
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I have a little kid being killed in a fountain of blood a severed leg a water logged torn up fisherman and quint being crushed and spitting out a ton of blood that was disagree with that assessment
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May 7, 2012, 7:15 p.m. CST
oh and lets not forget the autopsy and shark book pictures
by Raskolnikov_was_framed
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I think people are saying that swearing is not always big or clever. No one is saying its BAD that its got an R, but that it does not have to have one. They are releasing one cut of the film - its intended cut, it got an R, it could have got a PG13 if it were different, but that would have been the directors choice, not the choice to go for a different rating. People are discussing and its not a binary arguement.
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Rated R.
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And when the Prometheus trailer came on I said we have to go to this together and they said yes. and my mom was the most jazzed. I hope your family is this awesome too.
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now, make expendables 2 rated R also
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Alright, I'll concede on the Jaws bit. However, we're not excited that it's R because "OMG BLOOD N' VIOLENCE LOL FACT!!". We're excited because Ridley Scott's going through with the movie he wanted to make, not some watered down, cut back pile of bullshit. See, the MPAA has been the bane of most director's existences since... fucking forever, because they're the most back-asswards non-government organization in existence at the moment. This is our little way of sticking it to these asswipes, and directing it at the target audience at the same time. And yes, I have stepped foot in a movie theater recently. I recognize it doesn't keep all the kids out, but it's nice to know there's a bit of a limit.
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Ill be seeing it opening night too...
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May 7, 2012, 9:09 p.m. CST
I am utterly shocked they are going with an R on this. As a viewer, I'm happy but
by Brian Hopper
I think it's a crazy decision. If you look at the economics of it, they are leaving many tens of millions of dollars on the table, and perhaps (if it's a hit) one or two hundred million dollars or more. With an R, you literally freeze out THE single most important segment of the moviegoing public: teenage boys. Many of them will have no way to see it unless a parent or older brother takes them. It's such a ballsy decision and I really admire it in that sense, but it is insanity on a business level. Anyway... R!!!!! Awesome.
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May 7, 2012, 9:15 p.m. CST
The original Alien would almost be a PG-13 these days
by Nasty In The Pasty
Take out a little of the language and the chest-burster scene, and it's actually pretty light on the gore. Ditto Aliens, where a lot of the violence is shrouded in shadows and quick-cut. Neither film is a really *hard* R, aside from the incessant language in Aliens. It wasn't until Alien 3 that the series started wallowing in sadistic violence.
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May 7, 2012, 9:20 p.m. CST
I agree with @astronut and @conspiracy and whoever else is saying this...
by Brian Hopper
Prometheus getting an R rating is something of a watershed moment. It is a HUGE deal that Fox is going with an R. They are beyond question leaving money on the table by doing it. In the marketing sense, it looks like they are going for a 'pure' experience with the director's vision intact, and they're hoping they'll be paid back for presenting that vision as the director intended. It is a gutsy move and demonstrates a great deal of integrity on Fox's part. I intend to reward them handsomely with multiple in-theater viewings of the movie. Prometheus is the first big movie I can think of in a long while in which everything about it, up to and including Fox's balls-out rating decision, bespeaks of commitment to some kind of artistic vision along with commercial concerns. Cannot wait for this movie to arrive.
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"Take out a little of the language and the chest-burster scene" from Alien and you have diminished the emotional impact of the movie. The language (among other things) made it realistic and the gore of the chest burster scene made it horrifying and gruesome. I agree with others who have said this is a HUGE decision that was taken and we should ALL be very happy Ridley didn't back down when it got the R from the MPAA.
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May 7, 2012, 9:41 p.m. CST
Dang, I was hoping it would be rated G. If G was good enough for 2001 and Star Trek - TMP then it should have been good enough for this.
by ExcaliburFfolkes
Yes, that was a joke.
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You're forgetting that teenagers can always purchase a ticket for a PG-13 film and then walk into the R-rated film they wanted to see in the first place (or just sneak in altogether), which certainly affects the box office numbers.
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No proof of course, but I just had a hunch. No way Scott was going to be able or willing to tone it down for the sugarless prepubescents. Body horror and heavy space trippiness don't fly with the Wal-Mart Ameritard viewpoint. I'm glad we will get the movie as it should be seen.
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May 7, 2012, 10:15 p.m. CST
There used to be a glorious time in America where you had to sneak around to watch R rated movies
by smudgewhat
When you were only 10 or 13. And these movies messed with your head but informed you of a much broader world waiting out there for you. So I welcome Prometheus and hope that many 12 years old get to see it b/c it will scare the crap out of them and possibly make them think, thus beginning the next generation of sci-fi horror enthusiasts.
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(I've read some of it) on this topic. One of the most important demographics is obviously males under 17. This is especially true in the first weekend or two a movie opens, in which the audience is even more disproportionately younger males. So an R rating in the U.S. is a costly proposition. I mean, there's a reason these big summer and Christmas movies are all PG-13s. And to the contrary of conventional wisdom, sneaking into movies is not all that common. It represents a tiny fraction of the potential audience for a movie. Movie exhibitors have long known this, which is why multiplexes exist to begin with. Here's a thought experiment: What would this weekend's Avengers box office take be if it had been rated R? Answer: a LOT less than $200 million.
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May 7, 2012, 10:40 p.m. CST
You honestly think an R rating will keep out teenagers?
by Nasty In The Pasty
You'll just see a swell of ticket sales for whatever PG-13 flick opens the week before as teens buy tickets for that and stroll right into Prometheus. It's RIDICULOUSLY easy to theater-hop in the multiplex era. Theater employees and management don't give a shit, so long as you pay for "a" ticket, even if it's not for the movie you eventually end up seeing. There's usually one guy at the head of the loooooooooooooooooong hallway tearing tickets, and they NEVER check to see if you're heading for the theater on the ticket. Back in the 80's, you really had to be sneaky to get into an R-rated flick if you were underaged (or at least looked it). It's like porn...back then, a glimpse of tits in a magazine or on an HBO free preview weekend was a thrill, but today's horny kids can have all the porn they want for free online (no matter what safeguards their parents put on their computers, kids will find a way around them).
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May 7, 2012, 10:42 p.m. CST
rhizomeman, I'm not talking about the artistic merit of the violence/language in the original Alien...
by Nasty In The Pasty
...I'm just saying that it's a film that's a LOT less violent than its repuation would lead you to believe. Kind of like The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. It's INTENSE as hell, but you don't see nearly as much as you think you do. Until Alien 3, the Alien films didn't wallow in gratuitous gore.
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The studios know the numbers. The movie business is completely oriented around how a movie does in its first few weeks, and the whole idea is to maximize attendance during that time. An R limits attendance. Just go look at this list: http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/domestic.htm The one thing these movies have in common is that almost all of them are NOT rated R. That's why Fox's decision to go with an R on Prometheus is so courageous. And believe me I'm rooting for Prometheus to disprove the premise that an R movie can't break through.
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May 7, 2012, 11:16 p.m. CST
I just hope that it is up to ALIEN/BLADE RUNNER category awesome
by DementedCaver
...but that is such big shoes to fill....not sure if RS managed. fingers crossed.
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May 8, 2012, 12:31 a.m. CST
HOLY GOD DAMNED BALLS OF STEEL..... THIS IS RATED "R", BITCHES!!! CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS???
by Astronut
I'm being serious. Can you comprehend this?? That FOX had the fucking BALLS OF STEEL TO APPROVE THIS AS AN "R" RATED FILM AT $200+ MILLION FUCKING DOLLARS???? With practically ZERO LICENSING revenue (ie; toys and action figures, etc)????? TOM ROTHMAN AND THOSE IN CHARGE, I SALUTE YOU. FOR HAVING BALLS OF STEEL. IN THE YEAR 2012. AND I HOPE TO GOD you make a KILLING on it. You are courageous. Thank you. A Fan
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May 8, 2012, 12:49 a.m. CST
smudgewhat and nasty in the pasty...I totally agree and snuck into many R rated films as a kid!!
by rhizomeman
Sometimes I didn't have to cause I had a cool mom who took me to see Blade Runner, Amityville Horror among others. But, I do remember buying a ticket to see, Mary Poppins ha ha) and sneaking into Conan the Barbarian!!
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May 8, 2012, 12:51 a.m. CST
@smudgewhat - "Talkin bout my generation..." A lil' list of some awesome/some crappy R Rated films I saw without a parent or guardian over 17...
by kenchun24
...because the pimply faced theater dude or the wannabe Madonna theater chick did not give a crap that me and my best friends were not with an adult! 1986 - age 10 Highlander,The Hitcher,Maximum Overdrive,F/X,Cobra,The Fly,Stand By Me (why was that rated R BTW?),Aliens and Platoon both of which I saw with my dad on the Naval Sub Base Bangor, WA Military movie theater.Still remember how much fun it was to watch Aliens with a packed house of Jarheads screaming back at Ripley and The Space Marines! 1987 - age 11 Wisdom,The Hidden,Hamburger Hill,Creepshow 2,Prince Of Darkness (that Carpenter flick gave me nightmares),The Lost Boys,Running Man,RoboCop,Predator,Lethal Weapon (awesome summer eh?) Planes Trains and Automobiles, The Untouchables and Mannequin(Kim Cattrell super hot back in the day). 1988- age 12 The Blob,Clean and Sober (my dad was starting AA at the time and me and my mom went to see this) Bloodsport (for my b-day-back when Cannon/Golan-Globus released their action fare in theaters) I'm Gonna Git You Sucka,They Live (Carpenter rules) , Johnny B Good,Above The Law, Action Jackson, The Serpent And The Rainbow,Red Heat,The Dead Pool,Midnight Run,Rambo 3,Coming To America and finally Die Hard. 1989 - age 13 Dead Calm,Deepstar Six,Leviathan (scary sea creature summer)Kickboxer,Cyborg (love Kickboxer,"Nok soon kow!!!" but Cyborg sucked even at 13),Next Of Kin,Shocker,The Fly 2,Glory,Road House,Major League ("Up your butt joo bu"),Harlem Nights, TANGO & CASH!!! Pet Cemetary (nightmares of lil' Gage and his razorblade) Born On the Fourth Of July and Lethal Weapon 2. 1990 - age 14 I Come In Peace,Hardware,Nightbreed (nightmares),Pump Up The Volume,Graveyard Shift,Revenge,Lord of The Flies,Adventures of Ford Fairlane(love that stupid Andrew Dice Clay vehicle),Death Warrant,NAVY SEALS!!! Jacob's Ladder (nightmares) Predator 2 (still love that movie),Robocop 2 (that one as well),Hard To Kill,Misery, Die Hard 2:Die Harder, and of course Total Recall. 1991 - age 15 Rush,Harley Davidson And The Marlboro Man (pre-Sin City/The Wrestler Mickey Rourke),Body Parts,The Perfect Weapon (whatever happened to Jeff Speakman?),Toy Soldiers,Highlander 2,Hudson Hawk (love that box office bomb), Ricochet,Lionheart,The People Under The Stairs,Double Impact,Freddy's Dead:The Final Nightmare (in 3D BTW) Out For Justice,Point Break (first parent accompanied date with Miss Melissa Chambers...so maybe this doesnt count),Thelma And Louise,New Jack City,Boyz In The Hood,Backdraft and finally Terminator 2:Judgment Day(7 times that summer). 1992- age 16 Malcolm X (history class field trip)Dr Giggles,Jennifer 8,Trespass,American Me,Rapid Fire,Freejack,Juice (Tupac's acting debut I think?),Candyman (nightmares),Sleepwalkers,Universal Soldier,The Lawnmower Man,Mo' Money,Passenger 57,Alien 3 (I like that one still..mainly because of Charles Dutton),Scent of A Woman,Boomerang,Last Of The Mohicans (wanted to run in the woods forever after that one),White Men Can't Jump,Patriot Games,UNDER SIEGE!!!, Bram Stokers Dracula (1st no parents date with high school crush Dawn Cain during the 1 month period she broke up with her boyfriend...they are married now and have 2 kids.Go figure.) A Few Good Men,The Bodyguard (2nd no parents date with a senior chick, Miss Jennifer CaDiente,first kiss!) and Lethal Weapon 3. 1993- age 17 the age of R rated eligibility Ghost In The Machine,Fortress,Dazed And Confused,The Dark Half,ARMY OF DARKNESS!!! True Romance,Judgment Night,Man's Best Friend (love Lance Henrikson),Body Of Evidence (had to see Madonna nudity at a legal age...even though she's was showing it all most my childhood), The Crush,The Vanishing (Jeff Bridges rocks) Needful Things,A Bronx Tale,Sniper,Nowhere To Run (boobies of Rosanna Arquette) Poetic Justice,Menace 2 Society, Hard Target,Point Of No Return,Sliver (more Sharon Stone nudity), Alive,Carlito's Way (one of DePalma's good movies) Falling Down,The Good Son (young Frodo vs psycho Home Alone kid!), TOMBSTONE!!! Demolition Man (er...Brave New World rehash), Rising Sun,Cliffhanger, In The Line Of Fire,Indecent Proposal and Schindler's List (history class field trip). Well that about sums it up.What a trip.
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May 8, 2012, 1:15 a.m. CST
@rhizomeman - hahah! Those were the days.Yeah I gotta say...
by kenchun24
...it's funny how far my lawnmowing job money went back then,when matiness were $3.50 and evening shows were $6.50. Also funny how some of those classics on my list are going to or have been re-made rehashed etc.
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May 8, 2012, 1:23 a.m. CST
Glad it's rated R. But it's a shame that dvonnesoneek is getting so much credit. That guy is one of the biggest morons on the IMDB boards. And that's REALLY saying something.
by Karl Hungus
But hurray for R!
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we're going to the tanning bed dammit....what?
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...You're learning. This makes up for X Men The Last Stand. Actually, fuck it, if we can have a good Ridley sci-fi epic, who needs X-men?
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May 8, 2012, 3:58 a.m. CST
It won't mean a damn thing in Australia, the UK, Europe, etc, where they have an M rating
by Hardboiled Wonderland
The yanks really need to get their shit together and make an M and an MA15+, for movies that aren't PG, but also aren't hard enough to be R.
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The R rating won't make any different for foreign box office, as every country bar the USA has an M rating for teenagers above 15. And teenagers will still get in to see Prometheus regardless of an R. Anyone younger than 15 really shouldn't be seeing a vagina-penis thing make "meaty" sounds anyway. ;-)
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Should be a rippng yarn
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Nice job. My mom took me to see Cheech & Chong's "Up in Smoke" when I was about 10. I laughed my ass off at the counterculture stupidity. "E. T. - The Extra Testical" etc. Also, I hadn't thought about how easy it would be for youngsters to sneak in to movies in most multiplexes. I hope the kids have fun and turn into interesting weirdos like this pack.
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...and it's R rating, yeeeesssss!!!!
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I knew they couldn't make the pegina scene without someone dropping the f-bomb.
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detailed discussions of tighty-whities? Looking forward to this even though AICN spoiled it in an article (boooo)
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Until I see the 'R' on all the movie web-sites, I shall remain skeptical. If the MPAA did give it an 'R', I still fully expect Rothman to cut it an re-submit it.
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What if his PG-13 version was also rated R by the MPAA?
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Not even considering the chestbuster scenes and all the language, it's that the atmosphere is much too dark for it. The first time they go to the alien nest. The medical bay scene. None of that would ever work in a PG-13 movie.
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Panic! False Alarm!
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Did Scott only cut the film one way? I thought he'd cut it several ways, with one as his "preferred" cut. If so, why not release both versions? It would allow the younger set to enjoy a slightly less nasty film at the same time the adults are flocking to the "R" film. Sure, the theater chains would probably buy mostly the PG-13 cut but a few would buy the R, giving the fanboys what they want. Just seems like the studio system is stuck in the past and can't recognize an opportunity to make maximum bank by releasing multiple versions to the theaters. Call one "Prometheus" and the other "Prometheus: Uncut" or "Prometheus: The Director's Cut" and be done with it. Just like they would on DVD.
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May 8, 2012, 1:32 p.m. CST
Actually, Aliens edited for TV is basically just language cleaned up & the chestburster scene cut
by Tall_Boy6t6
I saw it on TV in the early 90s & Bishop was getting impaled by the Queen & everything.
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I think you misunderstand my post. I don't actually care what the rating is...I'll enjoy it either way. What I was getting at is...I don't trust studio suits, nor anything they say. Got it, numbskull.
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...to be found here: http://www.prometheusforum.net/discussion/825/advance-prometheus-screening-reaction-spoilers/p1
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Some reasonably reliable source elsewhere who apparently did post on the film who called it BS.
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May 8, 2012, 2:55 p.m. CST
"Anyone younger than 15 really shouldn't be seeing a vagina-penis thing make 'meaty' sounds anyway."
by Rick Webb
Tell that to my high school health teacher.
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Agree the rating is of less importance to regions outside of America, think Fox played this exactly right as movie will play to bonzo business in Europe (where the Alien films and science fiction in general traditionally outgross their US counterparts)
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May 9, 2012, 12:23 p.m. CST
I told you; Scott wa pissed b/c he edited it down and still got the R
by E. D.
I said exactly that weeks ago. He already knew the MPAA was trending toward an R, and was pissed b/c he went out of his way to soften it for them. If he had known it was definitely going to be an R, he could have REALLY gone to town even in the theatrical version.
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...As I have my IMAX ticket for June 1st, and the tickets say PG-13. Not sure if the BBFC have just gone soft or what?...
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U, Uc, PG, 12, 15, 18, 18R...
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