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Ok - So Hulk threw out his back hauling all the AVENGERS Box Office - but does this mean Edgar Wright's ANT MAN is closer?

Hey folks, Harry here...   my long time internet buddy, Edward Mazmanian pointed me at this Twitpic of Edgar Wright's with the words: "Received this in the mail. What can it mean?" - now I've written Edgar for clarafication, but I bet he couldn't even if he wanted to - so...  Now that MARVEL has all the money - will Edgar's ANT MAN get going very quickly?   We'll see - when Edgar was in town recently I got to sit down and have casual off the record conversation - there's a lot of options that Edgar's looking at - and he's weighing all of it carefully.   But I have to admit - this rather obvious tease of his - well it's enough to get me geeking!

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  • May 6, 2012, 6:36 p.m. CST


    by Teddy Artery

    It's a first!

  • May 6, 2012, 6:37 p.m. CST


    by Covenant9

    Always wanted to say that. Don't kill me!

  • May 6, 2012, 6:37 p.m. CST

    In my ten years on the site

    by Teddy Artery

    Never got a "first"... (tears)

  • May 6, 2012, 6:37 p.m. CST


    by rpalompo

    Only to reveal......ants!!

  • May 6, 2012, 6:37 p.m. CST

    Who was crying out for an Ant Man movie?

    by Rex Carsalot

  • May 6, 2012, 6:38 p.m. CST

    So close!

    by Covenant9

    Oh well. I hope they don't start green lighting every superhero flick simply because of $$$.

  • May 6, 2012, 6:39 p.m. CST

    I think Edgar Wright was just showing the graphic

    by Teddy Artery

    because someone mailed a letter to him with that design on it. No indicator there is an imminent Ant Man movie comin'.

  • May 6, 2012, 6:39 p.m. CST

    I'd rather see a Vision and Scarlet Witch Movie ...

    by Sean

    ... than an Ant Man movie. Just sayin'.

  • May 6, 2012, 6:39 p.m. CST

    Avengers brings in a $200 Million US opening weekend!

    by Mike

    Just read it elsewhere. Phenomenal!

  • May 6, 2012, 6:39 p.m. CST

    Congrats Teddy!


  • May 6, 2012, 6:39 p.m. CST

    More Avengers

    by rpalompo

    I mean, more members. I know they'll make more movies, but the hint of the coming threat means they'll need not only Hank Pym ane Janet Van Dyne, but also Simon Williams/Vision, Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, and obviously Captain Marvel. Thanks, again, for Making Mine Marvel!

  • Who the FUCK wants a movie featuring just him??

  • May 6, 2012, 6:40 p.m. CST


    by Creepythinmanlivez


  • May 6, 2012, 6:41 p.m. CST

    I didn't even know there was an Ant Man

    by Mugato5150

    Okay slow down guys. The Avengers was awesome. Iron Man 1 was great. Thor was good. Let's not go crazy now.

  • May 6, 2012, 6:41 p.m. CST

    Hank Pym! Hank Pym! Hank Pym!!!!!

    by Felix

    Wasp! Wasp! Wasp!!!!!

  • May 6, 2012, 6:43 p.m. CST

    Worldwide $641,800,000 ... so far. Massive.


  • May 6, 2012, 6:45 p.m. CST

    Oh come on...of course Ant-Man is coming....

    by Jobacca

    Every Marvel character known to man and fanboy is getting a movie after this opening weekend. I only hope that they keep on keeping on with tying the movies together. Maybe Henry Pym works in R&D for Tony Stark? And maybe he's got a lab right next door to Bruce Banner? Either way,Ant-Man will be here sooner rather than later.

  • May 6, 2012, 6:47 p.m. CST

    Ant Man on the original Saturday Night Live...

    by Red Ned Lynch some sort of superhero party. Belushi is playing the Hulk. Garrett Morris walks in wearing the Ant Man costume and is asked what his power is. He tells them that he can shrink to the size of an ant and retain the strength of a full grown man. The other heroes...well they laughed at him.

  • Not quality, just pure cash. Greenbacks. Moolah. Anybody see this same exact box office weekend repeating AGAIN, to bigger numbers, in 2 months. Like, really? Also 3D surcharge FTW.

  • May 6, 2012, 6:54 p.m. CST

    Hank Pym in Avengers 2

    by JasonZumwalt

    = AWESOME.

  • It would be the funniest movie of all time. When zombie hulk eats galactus people will shit themselves.

  • May 6, 2012, 6:54 p.m. CST

    I seem to recall...

    by Dranem

    ...that Marvel was thinking of doing little 10-15 character vignettes to showcase some of the lesser known avengers that probably couldn't sustain a full movie. They would play before the sequels of the main Avengers that had already been established, or something to that effect. Did I read or remember that wrong? I think its a great idea to at least get people familiar with the characters without having to flesh out an Ant Man movie.

  • May 6, 2012, 6:57 p.m. CST

    There should be a trilogy of Avengers films

    by Mugato5150

    The second one should be darker with the third as a resolution but throwing a bunch of additional hacky super heroes at it isn't the answer. IMO.

  • May 6, 2012, 6:57 p.m. CST

    people have been demandin antman

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    and none has answered me why but I presume they just have horrible/pre80s taste in comic book characters ie dr strange, silver surfer, jonah hex, and antman I don't complain about too many superhero movies, only too many crappy superheroes who get a chance tto have a movie. seriously antman before wonder woman?

  • May 6, 2012, 7:02 p.m. CST

    Marvel better not wuss out, do Black Panther!

    by whatevillurks

  • May 6, 2012, 7:03 p.m. CST

    No Edgar Wright Ant Man

    by CapIsKing

    I know he's a fair-haired child of this site, but I do not want to see an EW Ant Man movie. It has nothing to do with my disdain for the hugely overrated Scott Pilgrim bomb. A little comedy in the Marvel movies is fine, audiences have shown they accept and like it. But, a comedic Ant Man movie is too big a risk. Marvel's riding high now, but one bad movie can undo a lot in a short time. I have no faith that EW would deliver a movie that will appeal to the masses and not just the comic book crowd.

  • May 6, 2012, 7:05 p.m. CST

    I want to see the Fantastic Four done right.

    by Queefer Sutherland

  • May 6, 2012, 7:07 p.m. CST

    when can we start (spoilers)

    by klytusnotdead

    Talking about the big baddie lined up for Avengers 2. Dear Marvel I need The Infinity Gauntlet, now.

  • That guy was born to play a superhero

  • May 6, 2012, 7:08 p.m. CST

    Harry is full of shit

    by UltraMeerkat

    As ever, the fat one is fellating the Disney/Marvel axis in return for toys and favours. That is all.

  • May 6, 2012, 7:10 p.m. CST

    I don't get the hate

    by mr teaspoon

    Ant-Man might be a C-level character but that doesn't mean his movie is automatically going to suck. There's room for all sorts of different takes, this could be great.

  • May 6, 2012, 7:11 p.m. CST

    Thanos=Thor 2 NOT Avengers! Fact!

    by Henry_Jones

  • I kid, of course. And I agree he could play one if cast correctly. But I'm not sure he'll ever do anything as easily iconic as Mal Reynolds. Too bad he got to play with that character for such a short time.

  • May 6, 2012, 7:15 p.m. CST


    by Dalius

    After watching the recent "Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes" cartoon series, I actually thought I would miss Wasp in the big screen adventure, but oddly I didn't. It'll be fascinating to see how the two characters translate to a movie, but while Wasp is one of my favourite Avengers, Hank Pym is (a) dull and (b) annoying and should stay in the lab (IMHO). PS if you haven't yet seen Avengers EMH, all of season one is on YouTube, and it's great for both kids and adults, with some really snappy Whedon-esqe dialogue. Iron Man, Hawkeye and Wasp probably get the best lines.

  • May 6, 2012, 7:17 p.m. CST

    tomp theres no hate

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    there's just confusion why fanboys want an antman movie. and yes, its only fanboys wanting this

  • (spoilers, duh, for a comic that'll probably never be made into a movie) where she's a turncoat, seduces Tony Stark for money & kills Hawkeye's family and then he puts an arrow between her eyes. Great arc & give ScarJo some scenery chewing evilness & twist around the relationship between her & Hawkeye into something unique.

  • I love the movie but it's teetering on having a bit too many characters all at once.

  • May 6, 2012, 7:19 p.m. CST

    More than just Ant-Man..

    by Samuel

    A movie about just Ant-Man alone? Maybe not. But a film about Hank Pym and his Pym particles, Ant-Man, Giant-man, goliath, yellow jacket. Sounds like there's something there to me.

  • May 6, 2012, 7:20 p.m. CST

    Having said that ....

    by Dalius

    .... I trust Edgar Wright, have liked everything he's ever made, and would love to see his take on a Marvel Superhero flick.

  • May 6, 2012, 7:20 p.m. CST

    Ant man can't hold his own movie

    by Redhead_Redemption

    Marvel needs to realize that some of their characters can only fit in as supporting characters in either avengers sequels or in main marvels features (ant man for example could be set up in iron man 3 and then show up in avengers 2) The best way to approach smaller characters (no pun intended) is to forget about main films and go the route they went with Hawk eye and black widow

  • May 6, 2012, 7:21 p.m. CST

    regarding whedon vets

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    anyone notice the great enver from dollhiuse and alexis densiof was in avengers? with that said, maria hill should've been amy ackers. I love that anorexic chick

  • May 6, 2012, 7:23 p.m. CST

    so many better characters than Ant-man

    by Cobb05

    Dr. Strange, Silver Surfer, Gambit, Deadpool, Iron Fist, Captain Marvel, She Hulk, Black Panther. Plus better versions of Daredevil and Fantastic Four. I do trust Edgar Wright and I'm sure he'll make a good movie. I'm just not dying to see it. More excited to see The World's End.

  • May 6, 2012, 7:24 p.m. CST

    i could care less about avengers technically

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    I love the idea of differemt heroes but team wise, I don't care about this team. I like iron man and hulk but that's bout it. there's no other members I wanna see (even if its spidey or wolvie or whoever else) but then again, I am purely a marvel fan for the x verse so my opinion of avengers don't reallu count. except if it involves giving antman a solo movie longer than 10movies

  • May 6, 2012, 7:26 p.m. CST

    I'd like to see Beta Ray Bill in Thor 2

    by Cobb05

    Even just as a quick cameo.

  • May 6, 2012, 7:28 p.m. CST

    I'd rather Marvel bought back the rights to Fantastic Four...

    by Hesiod2k7

    ...Doctor Doom, Galactus and the Silver Surfer. And, whoever said Michael Fassbinder should play Vuctor Von Doom is a genius.

  • May 6, 2012, 7:28 p.m. CST

    lol cobb says iron fist is better than antman

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    I'm totally list on that. I can definitely tell how old some of you are by your choice of favw characters ps: byt gambit is the shit, so u don't have too horrible of tastes

  • May 6, 2012, 7:29 p.m. CST

    How about a DEFENDERS movie? Need Namor and...

    by Hesiod2k7

    ...Doctor Strange. Can set them up in a Hulk movie.

  • No wonder it's so easy to make fun of mainstream Hollywood!

  • May 6, 2012, 7:35 p.m. CST

    No Hank Pym. No Ultron. 'Nuff said.

    by Hesiod2k7

  • May 6, 2012, 7:36 p.m. CST


    by gotilk

    That response was hilarious. Simple, to the point. Pure snark.

  • May 6, 2012, 7:38 p.m. CST

    Rest in peace George Lindsey

    by KnightShift

    "Hey God, Goober says hey!"

  • May 6, 2012, 7:47 p.m. CST

    I can sooo see Sarah Michelle Geller as Janet Van Dyne

    by MasterShake

    C'mon Joss, you know you can talk her into it. Add Nathon Fillion as Hank Pym= GOLD.

  • May 6, 2012, 7:54 p.m. CST

    fuck Infinity Gauntlet

    by the new transported man

    unfilmable. IIRC, the only reason there's a big battle is so Thanos can entertain Death & Marvel could sell comic books. the Infinity Gauntlet is cook & all, but ridiculous, even by comic book logic. i mean fuck, you've got it on, then 50 super heroes show up. in the time it takes your eyes to process the sight of 50 superheroes you can turn the entire universe into a cheesecake.

  • Then somebody needs to lose their fucking job.

  • May 6, 2012, 7:58 p.m. CST

    Veiled reference from Loki

    by luke_lymon

    remember his comment about an ant and a boot? Maybe a stretch, but I think its intended to bring Antman out of the shadows. Now I have to wonder if there were other veiled references missed.

  • May 6, 2012, 7:58 p.m. CST

    ohhh, and I don't mean Loki himself was used to out the antman

    by luke_lymon

  • May 6, 2012, 7:59 p.m. CST

    Antman movie

    by Mark

    An Antman movie would also have the Wasp in it and she narrowly missed the cut for this Avengers movie, so it wouldnt be a stabdalone movie for antman. And Kevin Feige was hinting that Edgar Wrights Antman is going to be fastracked. Also Ultron is pretty much the Avengers Archenemy and with no Hank Pym Aka Antman/Goliath/Yellowjacket no Ultron. Also Antman and the Wasp were original Avengers not Black Widow and Hawkeye. So Im thinking we will be getting a BW/Hawkeye/Shield movie and a Hank Pym/Wasp movie. But I would still like to see a Luke Cage/Iron Fist done in the 70's by Tarantino, would be fucking classic.

  • May 6, 2012, 8 p.m. CST

    Here's the thing about

    by Jaka

  • They could be introduced/included in the Ant Man movie, and once they're in the Marvel "movie universe" they could slide over into any of the other movies.

  • May 6, 2012, 8:04 p.m. CST

    With an eventual movie or tv spinoff.

    by dahveed1972

  • May 6, 2012, 8:04 p.m. CST

    Standalone Movies

    by Mark

    Also who says they have to be standalone movies, you could put Black Panther in a Captain America movie or a Black Widow/Hawkeye Shield movie. Iron Man 3 could deal with the Mandarin and have an appearance by DR. Strange. You could do a 2 hour Luke cage/Iron fist flick with each of them getting an hour playtime. Now that they have shown what the marvel universe is all about they could introduce almost any character into any of the existing franchises instead of trying to start a bunch of solo flicks.

  • May 6, 2012, 8:06 p.m. CST

    who is the midget on supernatural?

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    Cuz ugh... they're pretty tall. and I'm like 6'0/6'1

  • May 6, 2012, 8:08 p.m. CST

    SuperGoober: The Movie

    by Cassius_Crackhead

    Make it happen Hollywood. You know you want to.

  • May 6, 2012, 8:18 p.m. CST

    My money's still on Moon Knight

    by mr.underwater

    As the next non-avengers Marvel movie. In December, Marvel released a Moon Knight video pinball table, and I don't think they picked that character at random.

  • May 6, 2012, 8:29 p.m. CST

    Maybe its a DISTRICT 10 ad, lol

    by zillabeast

    No really, it would be cool to see Hank Pym get his movie. It will definitely have to be smaller in scope, and much much cheaper. Even before the Marvel movie empire got rolling, you could find a t-shirt at Target with any of the big 4 or the X-Men on them. No such glory for the Ant-Man. The selling point of this movie will have to be cameos from our AVENGERS regulars.

  • May 6, 2012, 8:33 p.m. CST


    by Prior Walter

  • May 6, 2012, 8:33 p.m. CST

    I want a Black Panther movie

    by dukeroberts

    Or at least an addition of him into the Avengers. But also, Ant-Man, Wasp and the Scarlet Witch should be incorporated into the Avengers somehow. And finally, can I get a Sub-Mariner movie? And it has to be called The Sub-Mariner, not Namor. The Sub-Mariner is a superhero name. Namor is not a superhero name. I know that many people will end up calling him "The Sub-Mareener" as I did when I was a kid, but so what? He's a great character, a classic character, and deserves some attention before a viable Aquaman movie gets made first. I never liked that they stopped calling him "The Sub-Mariner". He was great in the 80's Avengers comics. Now, Idris Elba as the Black Panther. One of the following as the Wasp: Mila Kunis, Camilla Belle, Emma Watson or Mary Elizabeth Winstead. Teddy Sears as Hank Pym. One of the following as the Scarlet Witch: Christina Hendricks, Amy Adams, Isla Fisher, Saffron Burrows or Bryce Dallas Howard. The Sub-Mariner? I have no idea. Leonard Nimoy, maybe? He's used to pointy ears.

  • It had some good character moments and some great jokes, but... I don't know, it was just kind of boring. The interminable first act, when you KNEW they had to put aside their differences and Avenge eventually, seemed pointless. And except for about 5 minutes, the first half hour seemed to take place entirely at night, or in space, or in dimly lit paramilitary bunkers. It was visually boring. Speaking of boring visuals, Whedon proved himself not at all an inspired director. I can think of two cool shots in the whole movie: the long single take of each Avenger doing his part against the invaders, and the shot of them all Assembled from the trailer. I thought Joss would be more of a visionary; but his movie looked like anyone else's. (Maybe Marvel wanted it that way; but it was still dull-looking.) Finally, some climax! Again with New York getting demolished!? Is anyone really still entertained by buildings blowing up? And what bland invaders... A handful of giant metal larvae, and an "army" so unstoppable they can be dispatched by everything from an arrow to a hard punch... I was dumbfounded by this. And it had the BIGGEST OPENING IN HISTORY? That really IS something to MARVEL at.

  • May 6, 2012, 8:37 p.m. CST

    Prior Walter

    by dukeroberts

    I offered up four better choices for the Wasp above.

  • May 6, 2012, 8:39 p.m. CST

    wasn't matt damon rumored to play Namor at one point?

    by Cobb05

    No one wants to see a Manor movie. I have no problem with him having a cameo in one of the movies, but he doesn't deserve his own movie. He's just not exciting enough.

  • Do people forget that Ant-Man can also become Giant Man? A Giant could be useful for The Avengers. Vision and Black Panther seem more "cinematic" than Ant-Man though.

  • May 6, 2012, 8:43 p.m. CST

    The Punisher needs to pull a Hulk

    by Cobb05

    Instead of his own movie, he needs to show up in another movie, kick major ass and make people excited for him. I think he's be best used that way.

  • May 6, 2012, 8:44 p.m. CST

    I loved The Avengers too countryboy!!!

    by zillabeast

    Your transparency is amusing!

  • May 6, 2012, 8:45 p.m. CST

    Hate to say it re: Nathan Fillion

    by dasaroo

    I recently watched the "Firefly Reunion" of Fillion and Adam Baldwin on "Castle". Was shocked at how both of them have let themselves go- they are puffy, bloated caricatures of their former selves. Fillion looks terrible- huge bags under his eyes. The horrible, forced banter of that episode didn't help matters. It really is a poorly-written show. He deserves better, and didn't look particularly happy to be there. I had tuned in weeks earlier to an episode where Castle was for some reason wearing an Elvis costume- he looked exactly like Fat Elvis,which I suspect was not the desired effect. A little hard right now to see Fillion as any sort of credible action hero. it truly pains me to say it. Seeing Adam and Nathan together that way brought home just how far-fetched the idea of a real Firefly reunion would be, even if it became logistically possible... they would really have to whip themselves into shape. Heartbreaking. On the plus side- Joss can probably write his own ticket for anything he might want to do going forward. Good for him.

  • May 6, 2012, 8:47 p.m. CST

    by MikeTheSpike

    Would this be the lame Hank Pym Ant Man, or the million-times-more-interesting Eric O'Grady Ant Man? Surely Hank Pym is the least interesting "high profile" (within the comics world) protagonist. Because - let's face it - if they *do* go with Pym, he'll be "reimagined" to all hell and bear no resemblance to the original. Might as well go with an alter ego who's naturally compelling.

  • Cuz the movie has made over 600 million dollars in a matter of days, had an A+ cinemascore & 93% on Rotten Tomatoes. so, yeah. go you for being unique. enjoy!

  • May 6, 2012, 8:51 p.m. CST

    No Ant Man movie

    by shane peterson

    just intro him in one of the The Avengers movies. FF needs a reboot.

  • May 6, 2012, 8:52 p.m. CST

    The first ad was a little expository

    by shane peterson

    but that's what these team up movies have to do. They have to get all these heroes together somehow. I couldn't think of a better way than what Whedon did honestly. The rest of the film kicked ass.

  • May 6, 2012, 8:52 p.m. CST

    sorry I meant first ACT...jeez

    by shane peterson


  • May 6, 2012, 8:52 p.m. CST

    Call the movie Yellowjacket and it'll be an easier sell.

    by TheSecondQuest

    Seriously, as interesting as Hank Pym, his dysfunctional, fucked-up marriage and the implications of his work (Ultron) are, nobody can take the name "Ant-Man" seriously. Fast forward it to Yellowjacket, call the movie that (or hell, just "Pym") and just include his Ant-Man days somewhere in the movie as his "Mark 1" origin story.

  • The movie was a lot of fun, albeit, there were some slow parts (anything with Black Widow). No one's seemed to mention the climax's similarity to that in SW-Ep 1 - TPM. All we needed was a "YIPEE!" or a "Now, THIS, is Pod Racing!" from Tony!

  • May 6, 2012, 8:58 p.m. CST

    This new age geek douche thing is annoying...

    by Andrew Coleman

    You didn't know Ant Man existed? So you don't read the comics I guess. If done as 70% comedy this would totally work. Ant Man was always in the Avengers too. This should happen. I don't get why it has become trendy to be geeky. But some of you need to do at least a second of research. This is awesome this is happening.

  • May 6, 2012, 9 p.m. CST

    "clarafication" Really? Why can't Harry spell?

    by Dave underwood

  • May 6, 2012, 9:02 p.m. CST

    will ant man fight the locust horde?

    by cerberus

    Or did the Avengers kill all of them? I'm shocked that Epic studio didn't sue. Loki's army looks like the locust horde from the Gears Of War games

  • May 6, 2012, 9:10 p.m. CST

    What about ROM?

    by Steve Lamarre

    There was even a bit where Ant Man teamed up with ROM, because dire wraiths were infecting ants.

  • May 6, 2012, 9:12 p.m. CST

    WTF is an 'Ant man'?

    by Raptor Jesus

    Seriously. Never heard of him. And I read comics.

  • May 6, 2012, 9:13 p.m. CST

    My ideas for the immedeate Marvel future

    by Chain

    1: for Cap 2 bring in the Falcon. A street wise urbanite who can teach Cap a few things about the modern world. 2: Nick Fury and Shield. Have Fury's origin told. 3: Black Widow and Hawkeye team up. Let's delve into their history some. Have some common enemy from the past force them to flashback on their history. Then bring on Avengers 2

  • May 6, 2012, 9:13 p.m. CST

    Aqua Man talks to fish, so Ant Man talks to ants

    by Steve Lamarre

    pretty simple logic to grasp. especially if you "read comics".

  • May 6, 2012, 9:13 p.m. CST

    sadly dasaroo I agree

    by Bass Ackwards

    I think I was listening to a Jay Mohr interview where he was talking about how terrible being on a successful hourlong can be, there's so much downtime where there's little to do but sit around and eat. Looks like Fillion has fallen into that trap a bit. Nothing a personal trainer, diet, and some time in the gym couldn't solve though, if he were ever so motivated.

  • May 6, 2012, 9:14 p.m. CST

    dasaroo, sad to say, is dead right.

    by Raptor Jesus

    You know, if I was an actor and got ridiculous amounts of money and status to look good, I would look good. Hell, I look pretty good now (in terms of being in shape) and no one a) gives me a dime, or b) cares.

  • May 6, 2012, 9:19 p.m. CST


    by Cobb05

    Falcon is supposed to be in captain america 2. There's talks of terrence howard playing him. Black Widow and Hawkeye will be in the S.H.I.E.L.D. movie, which could have some Nick Fury origin in it. I don't think there's plans for a Fury movie. And Hawkeye and Black Widow might not be in Avengers 2. Might be replaced by Ant-man and Wasp.

  • May 6, 2012, 9:20 p.m. CST

    The Atom > Ant-Man

    by mdk

    Ant-Man could never shrink down to electron size, phone himself to a villain's hideout, and pop out of the receiver to punch him in the jaw. All he could do was ride around on ants. Even a flying ant is a less than ideal source of transportation. "Trouble at the bank! Away ants! We should be there... oh, in a few hours...heh."

  • May 6, 2012, 9:21 p.m. CST

    Jack Bauer could kick Ant Mans !@!%#

    by bauerpowerhour24

    i kept waiting for Tony stark to fly around a building to see a huge spider web there. then go over it only to have a bunch of the larva get caught in it. no need to show spider man just do that. it would have been epic in a already epic movie this movie was what i wanted just a fun time could have seen more black widow skin but it was epic still without T&A

  • May 6, 2012, 9:28 p.m. CST

    Ant Man

    by enemygateisdown

    Why not do a movie on Jublilee too! Stick with the non-fucktard Heros!

  • May 6, 2012, 9:34 p.m. CST

    The Wasp

    by dukeroberts

    Correction: Rachel McAdams as the Wasp!

  • May 6, 2012, 9:36 p.m. CST

    Someone from Marvel Studios, please read!

    by Tiredtot

    Going back to solo character films is a bad idea, but to make the best of it here are some awesome suggestions. NO Ant-Man, NO Hulk, NO Black Panther, NO Captain America*, NO Iron Fist/Luke Cage. These films will barely break even, Marvel Studios could be working on stronger properties. Iron Man 4 - I understand Stark will be working with nanotech in IM3. In IM4, have Banner be both Tony's best friend and a scientist/inventor living at Avengers' Tower, who, as a side project, uses nanotech, not to cure, but to better control/mentally enhance the Hulk. Thor sequels. No more Earth visits, save that for The Avengers' films. Focus on Asgard/the unseen realms. One or two realms per movie. Bring Jane to Asgard. Have Loki be a Hannibal Lecter-type prisoner. Maybe bring in Hawkeye to acquire enchanted arrows. Captain America And SHIELD. There is not enough of a worldwide fanbase for another CA sequel; unless Nick Fury, Black Widow, Hawkeye, and the resources of SHIELD are involved. Bring War Machine into this as a new SHIELD operative, as Steve's new friend, have him be the stand-in to the much lamer Falcon. Have everyone except Cap resign from the Avengers and have this be their primary team. The Avengers sequels. NO lame magical gypsy woman. NO pricky, grey haired Flash ripoff. NO to low SHIELD involvement. Vision OK, without the ugly red/green color scheme. Spider-Woman, yes! Introduce Dr. Strange, then give him his own films with occult/magical side characters (like a grown up Harry Potter). No more big city battles! The Avengers should have the wonder of the old Star Wars, but instead of different planets, unusual Earthbound locations! Atlantis, Wakanda, and even the Savage Land (imagine the Hulk vs. a T.Rex) would be great. You Marvel fuckers would totally mega-bank off these ideas! Do them!

  • May 6, 2012, 9:36 p.m. CST

    Avengers 1.5

    by NinjaChampion

    I think Ant-Man could carry a movie along with the Wasp. But if needed, they could also have some guest appearances by some of the Avengers. And yes, Amy Acker would make a could Janet Van Dyne.

  • May 6, 2012, 9:39 p.m. CST

    Earth's Mightiest had shown, week-in and week-out,

    by -Halfscan-

    that not only can Ant-Man be interesting, he is more than capable of carrying the team when needed. Not saying he needs a stand alone flick, but he absolutely needs to be realized into the Marvel Cinema Universe in some form. </p> </p> Alan Tudyk, best man for the job, period... and i swear he was in Avengers - at the end just before the Stan Lee cameo.</p> </p> And frankly Wasp is needed to keep the team from being a total sausagefest.

  • May 6, 2012, 9:40 p.m. CST

    Fantastic Four?

    by Captain Mal

    Why is everyone talking about FF? Doesn't Fox still have that property? In the wake of this weekend, I doubt they're about to hand that potentially lucrative franchise back to Marvel. And history has shown us that Fox has NO IDEA what to do with superheroes, aside from a couple fluke X-films.

  • May 6, 2012, 9:41 p.m. CST

    Michael Golden's MICRONAUTS!

    by Mephisto the Great

    If you want some small tough heroes, the first 12 issues of the 80s comic Micronauts would do nicely. A few of the ripoff-Star Wars points will be changed, of course, but I've a script all ready to go. ;)

  • May 6, 2012, 9:46 p.m. CST

    Plus, re: that pic...

    by -Halfscan-

    was one of the designs shown in a short about fan art that I had seen here (or on some other sight) within this last week. Has nothing to do with a film.

  • May 6, 2012, 9:50 p.m. CST


    by -Halfscan-

    Marvel's Micronauts, unfortunately, will never happen.. Marvel doesn't own the license to most of the names/designs, and the people who do (last I heard JJ Abrams) don't have the rights to Marvel's story. </p> </p> There's certain to be a Micros film at some point.. but I'd expect it be more influenced by Transformers and have no connection to MU.

  • May 6, 2012, 9:53 p.m. CST

    Marvel, just play your hand right

    by DonnyUnitas

    Make movies that appeal to mass audiences that feature characters within mainstream popular culture. Use the source material as a jumping off point, but don't bow to the fanboys who insist on it's supremacy. Don't do "this story" or "that story," do YOUR story. As to all these ancillary characters, leave them in print. Avengers has been so successful partly because each character is part of the public psyche. Bringing in Black Panther (I can already imagine the outrage from ignorant political groups over his name), Ant Man, Wasp, She-Hulk, or any of the other hundreds of characters from the roster will only muddle what is already a concise, yet complicated system of moving parts. Don't add to the Avengers. And don't subtract. Let the story be the driving force, not the gimmicky addition of new heroes. As to stand-alone vehicles, as I said, some heroes are left better in print. Could Namor carry a movie? Possibly. Could Ant-Man? Doubtful. Whatever their next move is will determine their fate, either as a juggernaut or a flash in the pan. If they decide on cranking out several subpar titles of lesser-known characters, they'll fail. Either way, the ball is in their court, and that's nice to see.

  • What's next? Edward Norton for Reed Richards?

  • May 6, 2012, 10:02 p.m. CST

    I want a good SILVER SURFER movie.

    by blackwood

    Neither here nor there, but I want it.

  • May 6, 2012, 10:05 p.m. CST

    Hank Pym is a wife-beating douche bag

    by BetaRayBill07

    Fuck this. Give me Fantastic Four. Offer Fox or whoever the fuck it is $150,000,000 cash plus 20% or so of all future revenues from FF films and retail sales. The mouse has it in the ol' checking account I have a feeling. Could you imagine an Avengers 2 where the team is getting their asses handed to them by Thanos...then all of a sudden a huge giant flaming "4" fills the sky? Nuff said.

  • May 6, 2012, 10:08 p.m. CST

    didn't suggest howard for Falcon

    by Cobb05

    I read his name has been rumord to play Falcon in Captain America 2. And Idris will be in Thor 2. I think going for a more unknown actor for Black Panther would be better. I just read somewhere that Elba's name has been thrown around to play the next Bond. Who the hell suggested that?

  • May 6, 2012, 10:09 p.m. CST

    tiredtot - i don't totally agree, but i like the way you think

    by antonphd

  • May 6, 2012, 10:16 p.m. CST

    betaraybill07... bravo!

    by DoctorWho?

    I like the cut or your jib.

  • May 6, 2012, 10:18 p.m. CST

    Am I crazy for liking the idea of George Clooney as Reed Richards?

    by DoctorWho?

    Not that he would do it of course...but I think he could bring some gravitas to it.

  • May 6, 2012, 10:23 p.m. CST

    Union Jack - dir by Gareth "the Raid" Evans

    by voxmortis

    Let's add some non-US superheroes next, thanks... (OK, apart from Thor and Black Widow)

  • May 6, 2012, 10:24 p.m. CST

    Give Ant Man to Pixar

    by sunwukong86

    Only way it will work.

  • May 6, 2012, 10:31 p.m. CST

    Captain America and SHIELD...

    by Jobacca

    Pretty sure thats actually probably going to happen. Wouldnt be at all surprised to see Fury,Black Widow,and Hawkeye all pop up in Cap 2.

  • May 6, 2012, 10:32 p.m. CST

    Clooney would play Reed, but might cost too much

    by Cobb05

    He's be great though.

  • May 6, 2012, 10:37 p.m. CST

    The reason why Punisher hasn't worked before is because

    by sweeneydave

    they always put him in the regular world. We have enough crazy vigilanties in the regular Hollywood world. Punisher works best as a wild card in the comic book world. In a place where everyone is capturing bad guys and sending them gift wrapped to the cops, the Punisher is just taking them out altogether. He needs to be a major player in someone elses movie. He would be a great problem for golden boy, Captain America, to clash against. Or even better, Iron Man - who has to deal with the internal conflict of whether or not his actions are okay or not. But if you ask me, the Avengers are above fighting crime now. They are earth's defenders. Punisher cleans the streets from the inside out - much like Daredevil. A Punisher/Daredevil movie would work very well. They are both taking on the mob in very different ways. Give them a primary villain who they both want ultimate vengeance against and we've got a great conflict. Two guys with different ideals, constantly getting in the way of each other's revenge. Make it happen.

  • Would rather see those than AntMan.

  • And after the last six films Marvel has put out with The Avengers included, these films are totally light on deconstructing character and revealing a character with a truly dark nature or disposition, ala Pym's misogyny and subsequent mistreatment of his wife (Banner's attempted suicide not withstanding). So if your thinking that would be part of a possible Ant-Man film, forget it. Case in point--Favreau totally glossed over Stark's alcoholism not even attempting The Demon In The Bottle storyline in Iron Man 2. I think Disney is pulling the strings here. They want mega boss fights and worldwide catastrophe. Nothing wrong with that especially with Thanos on the horizon. But a lesser known character like Pym with a shady past does not equal a tentpole Marvel studios film. Second banana along with his wife Janet in The Avengers 2? Absolutely.

  • May 6, 2012, 10:47 p.m. CST

    sweeneydave, Jesus Fucking Christ!

    by Queefer Sutherland

    An intelligent person on AICN?!?! Are you sure you know what you're doing, buddy? You're wasting some really good film insight on a bunch of Doritos-addicted droolers. There are a stark few who recognize good analysis when they see it. I'm one of them. And you're dead-on about the Punisher. I'd definitely rather see him in a Daredevil teamup. Damn good job, man.

  • May 6, 2012, 10:48 p.m. CST


    by KlassAkt

    I agree, Punisher would work great as an act 1 villain in a Cap movie - and then have a common enemy come in to force them to work together.

  • May 6, 2012, 10:49 p.m. CST

    Loved the last 40 minutes..

    by samoanalii

    but I cant see going to see it again

  • May 6, 2012, 10:49 p.m. CST

    But who shall play him?

    by DarthBlart

  • May 6, 2012, 10:50 p.m. CST

    vin diesel or ashton kutcher?

    by DarthBlart

  • May 6, 2012, 10:51 p.m. CST

    Infinity Gems

    by KlassAkt

    Anyone else notice that the gem in Loki's staff is nice and oval shaped - and that light blue color is the same as the "mind" infinity gem? Would make a lot of sense, considering Thanos provided Loki with the staff, and he's able to mind control various characters.

  • May 6, 2012, 10:52 p.m. CST

    possible franchises

    by percane

    these are ones i think could be viable. a couple would require cooperation from other studios though dr strange - could be spun out of thor if valkyrie was introduced, and lead to a defenders movie. the defenders wouldn't be as big as the avengers though, and the silver surfer i think belongs to fox. power man and iron fist(heroes for hire) i think this could work really well. it could be like lethal weapon with super heroes. to me, that is an exciting idea. namor - if they could introduce the invaders in captain america 2, they could spin the invaders into a namor feature silver surfer - could be a gateway with other cosmic heroes as well like nova, adam warlock, captain marvel, etc alpha flight - would logically be spun off from wolverine, but if they could work out an interstudio deal with fox that could be nice deathlok could be good, similar in tone to the terminator nick fury agent of shield as a spy series the inhumans. it's a good concept, but i don't think a lot of the powers would translate well to the big screen (gorgon and medusa specifically) but the idea of a secret race hiding from humanity...could be like clive barker's nightbreed but with super heroes. ka-zar - a hidden jungle in antarctica with tarzan with a pet sabretooth tiger? fun! power pack - not a fan personally, but it would work as a children's movie i think. sentry - a super hero who is his own arch enemy and erased himself from history so noone remembers him...that could be a great movie!

  • May 6, 2012, 10:52 p.m. CST

    Going back to what I said about CA and SHIELD films...

    by Tiredtot

    Bringing War Machine into the mix would be perfect because... A) His obligatory and probably unnecessary appearance in the IM sequels would be avoided. Leaving Tony truly on his own (or to team up with another A-lister like Hulk). B) War Machine is our era's Captain America. He wants to do what's best for the country; unlike Stark, who wants to do what's best for himself and the world. Captain America and War Machine have the same goals, but War Machine has much more brutal means at his disposal to achieve those goals. He could be the grey to Steve Rogers's black and white view of the world. He could also serve as the surrogate to the Winter Soldier in Marvel's film universe.

  • May 6, 2012, 10:54 p.m. CST

    Hank Pym

    by TheDiscoPlumber

    They should definitely include Hank in Avengers 2, but have him go straight to Goliath. It's the best name of all his names, and the costume is workable (although in comic form, my personal favorite is his Yellow Jacket costume). An Edgar Wright Ant-Man film will derail the franchise... seriously.

  • May 6, 2012, 10:56 p.m. CST

    Ant Man is NOT a movie I want to see.

    by My best friend

    Id rather see a stand alone Nightcrawler flick.

  • May 6, 2012, 10:57 p.m. CST


    by TheDiscoPlumber

    What do you do with Falcon's costume? It's unuseable.

  • May 6, 2012, 10:58 p.m. CST

    Captain Marvel

    by TheDiscoPlumber

    I vote for the disco era female Captain Marvel...

  • May 6, 2012, 10:58 p.m. CST

    Ant-Man thanks

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    Scientist in the avengers , we have Banner and Stark

  • It's surely not perfect. Especially the initial scenes with Loki were kind of forced. But I thrived on all of the dialogue and interplay and conversations.

  • May 6, 2012, 11:01 p.m. CST

    Pessimistic talkbacks? I'm shocked

    by bluebottle

    Edgar Wright has written the script with Joe Cornish (Attack the Block), I'm guessing it's probably going to be a solid script. Also, they've said publicly it's not about Hank Pym, it's about Scott Lang, with flashbacks to Hank Pym. Everything I've heard about it sounds amazing. Ye of little faith.

  • May 6, 2012, 11:02 p.m. CST

    Amy Acker as Wasp

    by TheDiscoPlumber


  • May 6, 2012, 11:02 p.m. CST

    I hope they don't start playing Nick Fury for laughs,

    by DarthBlart

    Like when Ant man or Reed Richards does their thing his eyes bug out and he's like "whoah, that's some freaky shit"

  • May 6, 2012, 11:04 p.m. CST

    Cool shit bluebottle

    by DoctorWho?

    You got some inside dirt there.

  • May 6, 2012, 11:04 p.m. CST

    I wanna see Jean Dujardin in the next Batman movie....

    by krabklaw

    ..playing Frence Freddie the Fence. And I want Bat-mite too.

  • May 6, 2012, 11:04 p.m. CST

    Captain America and SHIELD ...the way to go

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    like the comments re addition of War Machine into the line up with Cap, Hawkeye and Black Widow, with Fury calling the shots.

  • May 6, 2012, 11:08 p.m. CST

    Boo! Hank Pym or bust!

    by Felix

  • May 6, 2012, 11:08 p.m. CST


    by Relentless85

    A Punisher /Daredevil would be the best option for a double. Could Joseph Gordon-Levitt to pull off Murdock?

  • May 6, 2012, 11:11 p.m. CST

    Punisher and Blade

    by voxmortis

    Can we at least keep some characters in the Marvel cinemaverse (or whatever you're calling it) for the adults? Punisher: War Zone was brilliant! First 2 Blades were great too... I know Disney won't be keen on making superviolent stuff - so they may be happy to keep the more adult characters on other studio's books.

  • May 6, 2012, 11:13 p.m. CST

    Midnight Sons, anyone?

    by voxmortis

    Team of Ghost Rider, Johnny Blaze, Blade, Hannibal King, Morbius and Doctor Strange.

  • May 6, 2012, 11:13 p.m. CST


    by bluebottle

    no inside dirt. i just looked at the wikipedia entry for the film which compiled the info from various interviews.

  • May 6, 2012, 11:21 p.m. CST

    Any Acker as The Wasp. Alexis Denisoff as Ant Man

    by Prior Walter

    Alyson Hannigan as Scarlet Witch. Charisma Carpenter as Hellcat. James Marsters as Black Panther. Eliza Dushku as Ms. Marvel.

  • May 6, 2012, 11:24 p.m. CST

    Punisher and Blade movie together = awesomeness!!

    by No time for Haters

  • May 6, 2012, 11:25 p.m. CST

    Absolutely Never Happen

    by Relentless85

    I'd love a July. Michael Strazynski penned Supreme Power movie. However I don't think Marvel has the balls to piss off DC like that.

  • May 6, 2012, 11:26 p.m. CST

    Earth's Mightiest Supporting Characters

    by Jim Halpert

    A couple of people have mentioned the animated "Earth's Mightiest Heroes." It's a great series and, for those that have Netflix and/or kids, I recommend it. The creators and writers have a great handle on the characters and there are a lot of references to the larger Marvel Universe. As I watched Season One, though, I noted with interest, though, that while Cap, Thor, Hulk and Iron Man all got standalone episodes to introduce their characters, Ant Man and Wasp and Black Panther all got introduced in short seven- or eight-minute segments as part of an anthology-type episode. That's telling. If you can't hold your own for one episode of a half-hour animated series, you won't carry a movie.

  • May 6, 2012, 11:27 p.m. CST

    Motherfucking Auto correct

    by Relentless85

    J. Michael Strazynski

  • Have Zemo run Roxxon, using the funds to finance AIM space endevours.

  • May 6, 2012, 11:37 p.m. CST

    Marvel Studios! Here's what you SHOULD do with your franchises!

    by Tiredtot

    Iron Man 4 - I understand Stark will be working with nanotech in IM3. In IM4, have Banner be both Tony's best friend and a scientist/inventor living at Avengers' Tower, who, as a side project, uses nanotech, not to cure, but to better control/mentally enhance the Hulk. Thor sequels. No more Earth visits, save that for The Avengers' films. Focus on Asgard/the unseen realms. One or two realms per movie. Bring Jane to Asgard. Have Loki be a Hannibal Lecter-type prisoner. Maybe bring in Hawkeye to acquire enchanted arrows. Captain America And SHIELD. There is not enough of a worldwide fanbase for another CA sequel; unless Nick Fury, Black Widow, Hawkeye, and the resources of SHIELD are involved. Bring War Machine into this as a new SHIELD operative, as Steve's new friend, have him be the stand-in to the much lamer Falcon. Have everyone except Cap resign from the Avengers and have this be their primary team. The Avengers sequels. NO lame magical gypsy woman. NO pricky, grey haired Flash ripoff. NO to low SHIELD involvement. Vision OK, without the ugly red/green color scheme. Spider-Woman, yes! Introduce Dr. Strange, then give him his own films with occult/magical side characters (like a grown up Harry Potter). No more big city battles! The Avengers should have the wonder of the old Star Wars, but instead of different planets, unusual Earthbound locations! Atlantis, Wakanda, and even the Savage Land (imagine the Hulk vs. a T.Rex) would be great. These are more obscure but A+ properties/ideas. Look em up! Legion Of Monsters (add Blade and Man-Thing to the mix). Strikeforce Morituri. Absolutely beautiful concept. Longshot. Set in the Mojoverse. The film would be an amalgam of Blade Runner/Star Wars/Clockwork Orange/and Ziggy Stardust era Bowie.

  • And I'd actually love to see the Irredeemable Ant-Man brought to the screen. I mean, sneaking into the shower with the Black Widow?!? Come on, who wouldn't want to see that??

  • May 6, 2012, 11:38 p.m. CST

    Dr Strange in this Marvel universe

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    With Thor his "magic" was sold as alien and we got the famous Arthur C Clarke quote to sell the fact that its just very advanced technology that appears like magic. But with Dr Strange this isn't the case, this isn't advanced technology this is supernatural, grown up Harry Potter type magic. I really want to see Dr Strange on the big screen, but should he be in this universe ? As opposed to say how someone else suggested in a more supernatural universes with someone like Blade (is he out of jail yet?)

  • May 6, 2012, 11:40 p.m. CST

    SUCK ... it wouldn't SUCK. I'm such a silly bunt.

    by zacUpquark

  • May 6, 2012, 11:56 p.m. CST

    Had the worst seat in the house

    by LowDevil

    And I only made out half the film because of the blindness I was experiencing from the glasses and I can not believe HOW MUCH THE AVENGERS ROCKED HOLY FUCKING SHIT. OK all in all its not the best movie ever but prob the most fun. I dont think i laughed like that in a theater in a long time (Hulk side punching Thor off screen) So funny. Or Hulk smashing the shit out of Loki. So much fun. Now i cant wait to see it non 3d and in a good seat, not first row left!

  • They could always say that Dr Strange controls forces that are even beyond Asgardian comprehension. They could even go and further explain that some of the Asgardian tech, is truly "magic" but that they now master down to a science. I've never understood why this need to make "real" or tone down superheroes in movies. If one takes a quick look down the biggest box office successes of all time, and there are movies about some munchkins and a magic ring, movies about kids with Magic wands, movies about Pirates fighting the undead, movies about blue cat-people from space, movies about some monks with laser swords... etc, etc. People can handle fantasy and sci-fi, when done tastefully.

  • May 7, 2012, 12:01 a.m. CST

    The time is right for a CGI Howard the Duck...

    by Jobacca

    Make it a straight up snarky as hell social satire(like the original Gerber books) get some smoking hot redhead to play Beverly and have the villain be Dr. Bong(who is trying to prevent the legalization of Marijuana,as it would cut into his profits as a drug-dealing criminal). Thats another billion dollar record-breaking box office right there!!!!!!!

  • May 7, 2012, 12:01 a.m. CST

    Prometheus will be R

    by Goodbye_America


  • May 7, 2012, 12:06 a.m. CST

    Kim Coates as the Punisher

    by Relentless85

    The guy's a good actor and he's cold as ice.

  • May 7, 2012, 12:09 a.m. CST

    This movie will PROBABLY never happen

    by Ribbons

    ...which is unfortunate. I'm a fan of Edgar Wright and when I first heard that he was working on a script for this I was pretty excited, but now that Marvel's trying to bring all their characters into the Avengers fold, a slapstick action-comedy about a loser who somehow stumbles across a shrinking suit (obviously not Hank Pym's backstory, but from what little I understand it was going to be Wright's angle) is, I'm guessing, not the approach they're looking for. So they'll try and get him to change the story into something he was never that interested in to begin with, he'll leave the project and that will be that. Probably. I'd like to be pleasantly surprised though.

  • May 7, 2012, 12:12 a.m. CST

    Tasteful is exactly the word I'd use for Avatar

    by Relentless85

    If I were on peyote.

  • May 7, 2012, 12:21 a.m. CST

    Wasp......Never gonna happen

    by McFlyWalker

    Isn't Wasp a mutant? Pretty certain that Fox own the rights to all of Marvel's mutants, making her - and by extension, Hank Pym's - appearance in any future Marvel Studio's flick a no go. Doctor Strange....doesn't fit in with the existing film's stance of "no magic". With that in mind, I can't see Enchantress making an appearance in Thor 2, but Beta Ray Bill could, especially if Odin see's the Chitari as a threat to the 9 Realms & there is some expansion there. "use War Machine as Winter Soldier" Bucky Barnes as Winter the Cap film, he falls into a ravine, could quite easily be picked up by Russians & kept much the same, but the Winter Soldier story arc a Cosmic Cube & do we really need that again? More likely to get Skull return from another galaxy/dimension armed with shit to reestablish Hydra & if vibranium is the only thing that can stop said weapons, great way to bring in Black Panther....I would suggest the free runner from Casino Royale...very cat like movements, relatively unknown & doesn't sound American. As for setting up Ultron, Fury's bosses understandably pissed that come the end of the movie, the Avengers disassemble, so set up a new initiative using all the knowledge they have, plus alien tech...the Ultron initiative. Add a comatose Coulson's psyche into one of the Ultron droids & voila.......Vision. Coulson's affinity with each character makes it easier for him to be accepted into the team...Cap teaches him how to be a hero, Stark teaches him how to control tech, Hulk how to stay human..if only inside.

  • Well, maybe not Hulk, but with him it seems to be true... Marvel is for True Believers only!

  • May 7, 2012, 12:37 a.m. CST


    by Rick Webb

    Your idea of The Hulk versus a T. rex just gave me a geek boner and an actual boner simultaneously. I may need to get off the supplements.

  • May 7, 2012, 12:41 a.m. CST


    by Rick Webb

    Wasp isn't a mutant. Hank injected her with "Pym particles," giving her powers so she could get all vigilante on her father's murderer.

  • May 7, 2012, 12:41 a.m. CST

    You just know those Scientologist DB's at the Arclight Cinerama Dome

    by captain Jake

    Are going to be crying themselves to sleep tonight, that they lost the movie to Disney's El Capitan Theatre, those DB's actually threw a temper tantrum when they found out they were not going to be getting the Avengers,going so far as to cry that it wasn't fair that a single screen house was taking a big movie and keeping it for themselves. thats what those Arclight A holes get for hogging all the great and even semi mediocre to good movies in L.A. seriously go to glendale and the Galaxy and the Americana right across the street play the same movies and both theatre do excellent business customers pick the theatre they want to see the movie at and everyones happy. But no just a few miles away in Hollywood Arclight has to play dirty politics and prevent any somewhat decent movie from having a chance at playing anywhere besides them. EL Cap has always shown disneys films since disney took it over in 1991,Its Disney's house for petes sake, so the fact that they threw a temper tantrum over them playing Avengers was down right funny. And to ad even more insult the Vista another single screen house is playing to sell out crowds as well, but the only reason why they are getting to play it is because vintage cinemas the complany that owns them and the los feliz 3 filed a lawsuit about the monopoly in hollywood that the vista now has several years ago, a court sided with them and the vintage theatres won. audiences only go to arclight cause the scientoligists who have the controlling interest in it now, have forced audiences to go there and only there unless they want to drive to westwood, downtown la or glendale The Arclight was so much better when the majority control was handled by Pacific theatres, before the scientology volcano alien fearing muckety mucks got their hands involved.

  • May 7, 2012, 12:49 a.m. CST

    Shang Chi, Master of Kung Fu

    by Queefer Sutherland

    Emphasize the Fu Manchu angle and get some motherfucker who can really kick ass. Find a cool, James Bondian agent type for Clive, a roughneck cockney motherfucker to play Blackjack, Patrick Stewart would have to be Sir Dennis Nayland Smith. And some drop-dead gorgeous thang to play Leiko Wu.

  • May 7, 2012, 12:50 a.m. CST

    I've said it before, and I'll say it again and again.....

    by Clio

    give us a break with the super hero time out for just a year....lordy, I can only take so much of super this and super super Ant Man.....make it least for a while!

  • May 7, 2012, 12:52 a.m. CST


    by captain Jake

    Sorry my previous post is hard to read, with all the gramatical errors i made typing so fast. Really wish there was an edit button

  • May 7, 2012, 12:53 a.m. CST


    by Rick Webb

    You need to call "Time out!" on the ellipses ;) And fuck that noise! I say more, more, MORE!

  • May 7, 2012, 12:54 a.m. CST

    Why is everyone having issues with Doctor Strange?

    by sweeneydave

    Isn't magic in the marvel world simply science that hasn't been figured out yet? Well, Doctor Strange gets that science. He sees other virtually all other dimensions and can manipulate much of their tools in the same way we manipulate electricity. How much of our technology would primitive man consider magic? - As long as you limit these tools to the Sorceror Supreme instead of making it accessable to any character lucky enough to grab hold of a mystical trinket. Sorcerer Supreme was a title passed down to basically the border patrol of our earthly dimension - keeping all the baddies out while making sure the world never finds out.... cuz they just wouldn't understand all of this so-called-magic. Really though, as far as interacting with other superheros, Doctor Strange is a specialist. He is brought in when no one else understands what the heck is going on.

  • May 7, 2012, 12:56 a.m. CST

    *More comic book-based films, not periods

    by Rick Webb

  • May 7, 2012, 1 a.m. CST


    by McFlyWalker

    My bad, thinking purely on an 'Ultimate' level, which is where the movie-verse seems based. It would be great to see Hank & have him disrupt the Stark/Banner relationship, as well as putting another brain into the science mix.

  • May 7, 2012, 1:04 a.m. CST

    Tom Welling (Smallville) for AntMan!!!!!

    by dmstar

  • May 7, 2012, 1:17 a.m. CST


    by Rick Webb

    That's an interesting point. Does Fox own the rights to characters in the Ultimate universe, as well? That would not be good. As far as having all three of them in a lab working together (or, to rephrase, at the same time) would make for some spectacular scenes.

  • The Sub-Mariner is credited as being "Marvel's First Mutant."

  • The Sub-Mariner is billed as "Marvel's First Mutant."

  • May 7, 2012, 1:25 a.m. CST

    They're cancelling Earth's Mightiest Heroes

    by Volllllume3

    Why the fuck would they do that?

  • May 7, 2012, 1:26 a.m. CST

    Wow, that was weird.

    by Rick Webb

    Nothing to see here, folks. Carry on.

  • Feige recently pointed out. What I don't get is how that's ok, but dual usage of the Skrulls isn't.

  • May 7, 2012, 1:40 a.m. CST

    I'd rather push for a Black Panther movie

    by bravogolfhotel

    Michael Jai White has said that he and Scott Sanders had a meeting with Marvel in which they pitched T'Challa as "Obama who could kick your ass". I'd pay to see that.

  • May 7, 2012, 1:42 a.m. CST

    I don't care for Antman..

    by Brigon

    I want an Annihilation movie instead that introduces Nova, Quasar and Star Lord, Drax & Gamora, all ready for a Guardians of the Galaxy sequel. Of course Marvel doesn't own Galactus, and I doubt they own Annilihus either so that scuppers it completely. I will settle for a Nova solo movie.

  • May 7, 2012, 1:42 a.m. CST


    by Rick Webb

    I believe the Skrulls (or, at least, Super Skrull) are specifically named in the contract. And it would be great if all Avengers (past and present) were fair game.

  • May 7, 2012, 1:44 a.m. CST

    Wolverine in Avengers2

    by krylite

    And Wolverine has never been one of my favorites. But it'd be the marketable choice with Hugh Jackman returning from his stupid robot boxing movies. Have some AvX storyline, the debacle of X-Men 3 , fixed somehow. with Xavier and Cyclops returning from that "shadow Phoenix" screwed up twilight zone. Wolverine should be wacking headlong into Hulk or Cpt.America and everything else. The current AvX artwork is horrid, but the story would definitely work in a movie. Thing , Strange and Spider-man in the Avengers2 like they are in the current storyline.

  • May 7, 2012, 1:50 a.m. CST

    but it is on IMDB allready...

    by AdzonVonMelk

    so where is the news?? by the way... i´m starting to get annoyed by all this superhero stuff... make movies, not infantile 8-year-old-fantasies-on-screen....

  • May 7, 2012, 1:55 a.m. CST

    Wish we knew what Eva Longoria was doing at Marvel awhile back.

    by Shermdawg

    There were all sorts of rumors she was approached for Wasp....but it might've just been Fury's sidekick.

  • Hmm, wonder what movie that was...

  • May 7, 2012, 2:01 a.m. CST

    What A Joke

    by aceldama

    Yeah... make an Ant-Man movie. That will derail a career in a movie. Anyone who really considers themselves a fan of comics, yet supports this movie either 1) never actually read a single Ant-Man story and/or 2) doesn't really know shit about comics.

  • May 7, 2012, 2:07 a.m. CST

    Great movie but I gotta call bullshit on one part (spoiler)

    by Babba-Booey

    Whedon, you cock. No need to whack Agent Colson. That was a bullshit. Could have deployed a Life Model Decoy to fuck with Loki.

  • May all PG-13 CGI 3D butt-licking movies go straight to HELL!!

  • May 7, 2012, 2:14 a.m. CST

    In other news: PROMETHEUS Will Be Rated R

    by Amazing Maurice

  • May 7, 2012, 2:50 a.m. CST

    Why Americans should be boycotting Disney and Marvel...

    by seansarto

    Because they plan on taking all that value you comic book fans created with your quarters and bike rides down to the local convienience store to but the months latest issue of "Iron Man" ...All that value that YOU created from the 1950's - 2000's...and they are going to invest that value not in YOU but in the chinese society ...A society that only understands that by exploiting that value it deprives YOU from exploiting it....Seriously, chinese don't know anything about American comic books..they were not investing their quarters in it and building from scratch like YOU did...But now that the studios are following you comic book fans around looking to cash out all that value..the chinese suddenly have a major stake in it?...These are films YOU comic book fans in the USA should reap ALL the benefits from...It should be building YOU AMERICANS your dreams...It should be making AMERICANS lives better...It should pay down the debt...or provide healthcare....but they want to keep blowing their wad instead....YOU American comic book fans should have the benefits of location shooting..YOU should have the most influence on the films...YOU should get pay raises...The costs of your lives should go down...YOU deserve it, YOU created that value...It should make YOU and YOUR CHILDREN wealthier, healthier and wiser..That money should be giving YOU protection in YOUR old age....It is the value they are MINING now...The value YOU created..NOT the chinese...and the chinese know YOU did the work, bubs...and they like the idea of YOU doing the work for them....BOYCOTT MARVEL/DISNEY

  • May 7, 2012, 2:54 a.m. CST

    Better be true. yay for Edgar.Deserves a break

    by higgledyhiggles

  • May 7, 2012, 3:04 a.m. CST

    @daniel_craigs_my_wookie_bitch -Yeah Arclight sucks...

    by seansarto

    It was disappointing not to get to see Indy 4 at Grauman's...even Revenge of the Sith at New Beverly sucked....It was one of the only reasons for being in LA at that time.

  • May 7, 2012, 3:05 a.m. CST

    Edgar should do Kirkman's Irredeemable Ant-Man

    by indyflip

  • ...are my three "suggestions". Also, which Guardians of the Galaxy would they use? (I'm thinking the recent Annihilation GOTG, and not the old CLASSIC Jim Valentino run). Is there anyway we could organize a boycott to Spidey this summer so Marvel gets the rights back?!? (it's impossible, I know, but thios new Spider-Man movie is fueled by MONEY and not creative energy) No one was even asking for the movie. I just want to see Spider-Man swing past the Avengers tower, that is all I ask!!

  • May 7, 2012, 3:28 a.m. CST

    give me JENSEN ACKLES as pym and amy acker as wasp

    by DeineHinokischeSigile

  • May 7, 2012, 3:30 a.m. CST


    by UltimaRex

    PG-13/12a was created FOR cbm's (Spidey 1). Sure it got out of hand and making a R/15/18(!) movie PG-13/12a for dolla IS wack but most cbm's are PG-13/12a anyway. Save your hate for when it's needed (and it will be sadly). I agree with you on 3D though.

  • May 7, 2012, 3:45 a.m. CST

    "received this in the mail" is not a hint...

    by chronicallydepressedlemming

    so some fanboy made that and mailed it to E. Wright and you infer from that the Antman movie is a go? Crank it down a couple of gears will ya?

  • May 7, 2012, 3:45 a.m. CST


    by UltimaRex

    I think the shield guy playing Galaga is Eric O'Grady...

  • May 7, 2012, 3:49 a.m. CST

    Ant-Man - no prizes for coming up with that shit name!

    by MajorFrontbum

    The fact that people take this bullshit seriously, is pretty fucked up.

  • It's being described as a much smaller genre film with strong comedic elements. I think the people writing it understand the limitations of the character. Also, apparently Henry Pym was mentioned in the Thor movie at some point, but the scene was cut out.

  • May 7, 2012, 4:22 a.m. CST

    seansarto had the funniest goddamn post of the thread

    by Tall_Boy6t6

    CHINESE! EVIL! YOU! AMERICANS! YOUR JOBS! etc. Wow. Comedic gold.

  • May 7, 2012, 4:31 a.m. CST

    No reason at all for Avengers to be in 3D.

    by F-18

    That is, as far as the viewing experience goes. Of course, the real reason for 3D is to charge higher ticket prices. $2.00 higher in my case.

  • May 7, 2012, 4:45 a.m. CST

    It would be stupid to have two Ant-Man

    by chien_sale

    The Edgard Wright idea was to have Pym disappear and then have another guy, a thief, stealing his Ant-Man outfit. How about this: focus on Pym, then he disappears, the thief is Janet Van Dyne, she steals Pym's formula. Then somehow Pym and Janet makes contact and by the end of the movie she's the Wasp and he's Giant Man.

  • C'mon seriously Harry? I mean who in their right minds would see Ant Man? The title alone screams "Movie that will do poorly at box office". It would be better off being a CG animated film then a live action one. Look what happened to "Green Hornet", "The Phantom", etc. Those movies, while awesome in their days, didn't do well in the box office. Why? Cuz they are from a by-gone era. Characters like "Ant-Man", "The Atom", even "Wasp" I could see not being made into films. why? no real audience there. if they wanted to bring them into films like "The Avengers" where their B-class serves better in an ensemble rather than a stand alone, then i can see that working. But c'mon, even you have to admit dude, "Ant-Man" isn't a strong title, character, etc. I'll be shocked that Hollywood makes THIS film and not a film like "Elfquest", "Plastic-Man", "X-O Manowar", etc. Better titles out there than this dribble. My .02 -Rex

  • May 7, 2012, 5:41 a.m. CST

    Edgar Wright makes cool films, but

    by Aiden Blackwell

    there are really only a handful of characters who should be joining the Marvel 'cinematic universe', or joining the current version of The Avengers in any further films- Spider-Man and Wolverine for certain, and The Punisher as a wild card. Marvel/Disney are going to have the cash to at least consider doing it, but can you imagine... Avengers 2, with Spider-Man joining in, and then Wolverine and/or the Punisher bringing the heat for Avengers vs Thanos in Part 3? Ant Man would be fun, no doubt, but no way would it, or he, fit into the Marvel 'cinematic universe', and Ant Man wouldn't fit into The Avengers in the future. I mean, I'm not down on Ant Man, and I bet Joss Whedon could find a way to do it, but right now Marvel have way bigger, far more crowd-pleasing (and we can all see how thats working out for you, Marvel!) fish to fry.

  • May 7, 2012, 5:44 a.m. CST

    IF they can make a bloody Ant-man film....

    by RocketFuckingMan

    ......they sure as hell can make a Rouge Trooper/Slaine/ABC Warriors/Strontium Dog/Flesh film.

  • May 7, 2012, 6:19 a.m. CST

    Marvel's problem is going to be separating their heroes again.

    by FluffyUnbound

    Establishing the shared universe is awesome, one of the greatest moves in creating "movie synergy" since Lucas figured out the merchandising angle in 1977. But I don't see how you successfully go back to single-hero movies now. If you have a movie with a really serious villain, the obvious question becomes, "Where the fuck are the other heroes?" And if your movie faces a villain or a crisis that is minor enough to let you justify the absence of the other heroes, then the audience will ask why they're paying to see Iron Man rescue a kitten from a tree.

  • May 7, 2012, 6:21 a.m. CST

    Makes sense: C-Grade Talent for a C-grade Character

    by tailhook

    Lets not pretend either Wright or Cornish make great films. Its all culty, fringe stuff that cannibalizes Pop Culture because those two jokers have no original ideas of their own. So Ant Man would be a perfect fit. Simply make him a scientist that decides to become a superhero after seeing everything that went on in New York. So the Pop Culture Wright/Cornish cannibalize is the Marvel Culture itself that has allready been built up in the previous films. Break them off $50 mil(Marvel can afford it) and go have them make some crazy, edgy low-budget wonder that nobody watches but cult-types can adore. He can then cameo in Avengers 2 as a superhero with an inferiority complex towards the other superheroes, while the others laugh at him and treat him as The New Guy and give him Doughnut Boy status. But simply having him be an equal of the other Avengers in terms of ability and stature would be a huge mistake. But no way, no how should a fringe property like an Ant Man movie ever get anything like a big budget. Thats just asking to be fried with a magnifying glass by critics. But if it stays small and more towards that independent philosophy, it could work.

  • May 7, 2012, 6:26 a.m. CST




  • May 7, 2012, 6:33 a.m. CST

    @tall_boy6t6..Laugh now, cry later. ..Jokes on you.

    by seansarto

  • May 7, 2012, 6:36 a.m. CST


    by loafroaster

    I don't think you can judge Joe Cornish on his one directorial effort. And working with Spielberg is hardly culty fringe stuff.

  • May 7, 2012, 6:40 a.m. CST

    Cooperation with other studios?!? NEVER GONNA HAPPEN

    by KGB3317

    are you people crazy?!? We will never see Sony or FOX give up the characters they own the rights to. Especially after Marvel just showed them how it's done. (FOX had a decent hit with First Class don't forget.) If it does happen, it would be the most convoluted contract in the history of film: Character A(FOX) should appear in Character B's (MARVEL) film, but only for 10 minutes, because Character C(Sony) appeared 9 minutes. So then Wolverine would have 10 minutes of screen time because Spidey had 11. Then Sony would get pissed and Marvel would end up pissing off both of them. That's just the tip of the iceberg with film appearances, what about merchandise?!?

  • May 7, 2012, 7:21 a.m. CST

    Pant Man

    by Bileranter

    Would be just as good as an Ant Man movie. Which is to say, pointless and silly

  • May 7, 2012, 7:30 a.m. CST

    @cobb05 right on with Beta Ray!

    by Skankardly

    Beta Ray, to me, was always more interesting than Thor. I like Thor but Beta Ray just seemed more the 'regular guy' even though he was an alien, if that makes any sense.

  • May 7, 2012, 7:35 a.m. CST

    Ant-man could work, Pym is a complex character

    by MoneyGrabSequel

  • May 7, 2012, 7:38 a.m. CST

    Dr. Strange needs to be hard core horror

    by Chewbacca_Khan

    to work. Otherwise, it'll flop for trying to explain the magic.

  • May 7, 2012, 7:53 a.m. CST

    I'd rather see Adam-Ant man.

    by DonkeyBalls

  • Could be fake, but I'm holding on to hope.

  • May 7, 2012, 8:17 a.m. CST

    haven't seen it suggested yet, so I'll give it a go...

    by Richard

    Thunderbolts, please! although overlooked, Thunderbolts is one of the better Marvel comics going right now. you don't have to do origin stories... just start a story. hint at their backgrounds during the course of the movie. you don't have to include all (8) of the members to start off. start with Luke Cage (Isaiah Mustafah?), Moonstone (Charlize Theron?) and Mach V (Paul Bettany?). and introduce Fixer, Songbird, Ghost and Satana near the end, either as potential members or as people working on/imprisoned at the Raft.

  • I don't want to see Ant-Man, I mean seriously truly I don't want to see this movie. I could care less about Ant-Man. If they want more Avengers give me Black Panther, but not Ant Man good grief I do not want to see this.

  • I mean I'd prefer if they just introduce him in another film rather than give him his own film. I mean seriously I do not want an Ant Man movie. You could have him as a Shield scientist working on Ultron for a future villain, or the Vision but please not a solo. Now a solo Black Panther on the other hand would be freaking spectacular.

  • May 7, 2012, 8:31 a.m. CST

    and yes...

    by Richard

    I don't know a soul who would go see an Ant Man movie. include Hank Pym in the Marvel universe? definitely. have him working with Stark and Banner in Avengers tower. whatever. a solo movie? f-that. honestly, he'd be a perfect Coulson/BW/HE type; someone who could fit into most Marvel films in some way, likely. and I agree with whoever suggested teaming Cap with War machine in his next movie. and with doing a Black Widow/Hawkeye/Fury team up film.

  • May 7, 2012, 8:32 a.m. CST

    Pretty sure this is supposed to be about Scott Lang.

    by jellymoff

    Think they've said it before.

  • ...being shot in Honey I Shrunk The Kids-O-Vision! Could be quite trippy and quirky with some bonkers insect-related humour, but I can't see it being anything other than a small and niche arthouse movie. I hear the Nic Cage Bad Lieutenant was Bat-Shit crazy, perhaps that sort of direction, or Raimi DarkMan era. How about Black Knight, he has a fairly rich mythos.

  • May 7, 2012, 8:50 a.m. CST

    They should add Power Man, Black Panther, and Photon.

    by bat725

  • ..I gotta say..that is a damned risky move for a $200M film...; the Exec that OK's an R rated cut has balls the size of the moon. ...but if anyone can make an accessible, yet terrifying, "R" film it is Sir Ridley Scott. When the man is on his game he makes fucking Gold.

  • May 7, 2012, 8:57 a.m. CST

    or...why not continue to make movies with the heroes we already have?

    by Arcadian Del Sol

    Why do they need to establish new heroes now?

  • May 7, 2012, 9:10 a.m. CST


    by steve lee

  • May 7, 2012, 9:11 a.m. CST

    I would have thought Ant-Man was lame too if I hadn't read the comic

    by Jaster Mareel

    I read the short-lived run from a few years ago in which Pym wasn't actually Ant-Man. His costume was stolen by a douchebag and hilarity ensued. Dude used the costume solely for selfish reasons. The one that cracked me up the most was when he used it to watch a hot chick take a shower. And Nathan Fillion played the superhero Captain Hammer for idiots who don't know that.

  • May 7, 2012, 9:18 a.m. CST

    Some people underrate the concept of shrinking powers

    by chien_sale

    I think shrinking and growing would be cool if handled right on screen with modern special effects. We have move beyond the crap of Honey I Shrunk the Kids.

  • This is a very bad mistake Disney is making. Pixar has clearly shown them that the way to a movie people want to see is character and drama within fantasy. Character is not snark. They have the actor that can do a drama about something important and they're going to do Extremis instead. Its very disappointing. Why the hell use Downey if you're not doing Demon in a Bottle? Instead of showing a character struggling against alcoholism they've got a character being cool while drunk.

  • May 7, 2012, 9:22 a.m. CST

    Mary Elisabeth Winstead for Janet van Dyne aka THE WASP!

    by Frederik


  • May 7, 2012, 9:27 a.m. CST

    I have to say that being a father has changed my view

    by Jaster Mareel

    Befrore I absolutely would agree that they need to do Demon in a Bottle. Now? Not so much. You have that story in the comic and that's fine. The Avengers and its split-off properties are now firmly rooted as family fare and we all seem to like it just fine. Kids LOVE the why you wanna fuck with that? Kids don't want to see their favorite hero stumbling around drunk and hurting people, they just don't. And no fuckin' way will Disney allow that to happen, and I agree with them! If and when they do Civil War, that's gonna be messed up enough.

  • May 7, 2012, 9:30 a.m. CST

    Iron Man 3 being co-produced in China?

    by Steve What?

  • May 7, 2012, 9:35 a.m. CST

    michaelh : I don't completely agree...

    by steve lee

    ...the alcoholism was covered in 2 and highlights how dangerous a pissed-up Stark is, okay it was fairly comedically approached but you could see the threat if he went off in a drunken haze, also showed Howard Stark off his nut as well. End of the day, it's still for kids, to go this route and be grittier would need to a higher rating to do the demon story justice, IMO Directed by Mike Figgis (Leaving Las Vegas) nyuk!

  • May 7, 2012, 10:06 a.m. CST

    So who plays the wasp: Mary Winstead or Ellen Wong?

    by AshMcQ

    Can't fucking decide. :(

  • May 7, 2012, 10:09 a.m. CST

    Fuck Civil War

    by Volllllume3

    As far as I'm concerned, that entire arc never happened. Ever.

  • May 7, 2012, 10:14 a.m. CST

    Love all Marvel's films, but I'm just not sure about Ant Man.

    by Mr Nicholas

  • May 7, 2012, 10:22 a.m. CST

    if this puts us on the path to Vision and Ultron, I'm in

    by Ultron ver 2.0

    Those 2 characters NEED to exist in the Marvel film universe.

  • May 7, 2012, 10:24 a.m. CST

    Iron Man 3 in China = Mandarin

    by GlyphGuy

    Makes sense, right?

  • May 7, 2012, 10:31 a.m. CST

    Giant Man movie could be awesome. Guest starring Godzilla.

    by cookylamoo

    Or you could just watch Ultraman.

  • May 7, 2012, 10:36 a.m. CST

    As long as he's irredeemable.

    by Bubba Gillman

  • May 7, 2012, 10:42 a.m. CST

    Sam Worthington for Henry Pym aka ANT-MAN

    by Frederik

    with this as the basis for the costume:

  • May 7, 2012, 11:01 a.m. CST

    EW's Ant-Man has been floating around for 5 years.

    by Larry Sellers

    They were still working on it as of last year. I'm thinking he'll cameo in Iron Man 3, maybe a big part of Avengers 2. But Edgar Wright's work with Marvel HAS lasted over 5 years now, so the solo film could still happen. For people that are thinking ANT MAN?? THEY'RE GRASPING AT STRAWS! I implore you to at least read Marvel's wiki on the character. You're clearly just looking at a ridiculous name and deciding everything about it is ridiculous. Which doesn't make sense because you just saw and loved THE AVENGERS with IRON MAN and CAPTAIN AMERICA. For those of you who DO read comics but just hate Ant Man, carry on.

  • May 7, 2012, 11:17 a.m. CST

    This may happen.....

    by Shaun1138

    Now that filming will be under way on Iron Man 3 in Wilmington NC the rumor is Marvel wants to film two more films after IM3 in Wilmington NC because they like the studio. EUE/Screen Gems Studios is the largest studio complex on the east coast. Marvel has spent a ton of money upgrading the studio with swipe card access to stages and hallways since IM3 is being kept under lock and key. The plan was to do two more lesser known properties there with budgets around $40 million. This would keep Marvel in Wilmington for several more years. The state incentive for film making is one of the best in the country. Unlike the studios that show in in Mexico (converted plane hangars) these are true sound stages. Having 10 on one property with "Stage 10" being the largest on the east coast makes a lot of sense. Maybe they should change the name from EUE Screen Gems to "Marvel Studios" and just buy the property all together. Makes perfect sense, and it wouldn't cost but $40 million to do it. Not a bad investment for Marvel since they (Disney and Marvel) are reaping benefits right now. Just my two cents.....I think Ant Man will happen.

  • May 7, 2012, 11:31 a.m. CST

    Get the Ray Park Iron Fist up and running, do Terry Crews as Power Man, then

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    Have the Luke Cage Iron Fist team up we want. There, three movies covered.

  • May 7, 2012, 11:33 a.m. CST

    Adam Warlock, you fuckers!

    by Blue_Demon

    Film Avengers Annual #7 and Marvel Two-In-One Annual #2! Thanos vs The Avengers, The Thing and Spider-Man! A nasty knock-down-drag-out fight aboard a space ark in earth orbit, with all the stars in the balance!

  • May 7, 2012, 11:38 a.m. CST

    Garret Morris as Ant Man. Oh wait, it's been done.

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks;_ylt=AowYY9mOJb6sZBZ2oOJGqF.bvZx4?p=belushi+hulk&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&fr=yfp-t-701

  • I just can not see a single straight face in regards to that film. Not quite a spoof but more like the Mask or Land of the lost.

  • May 7, 2012, 12:04 p.m. CST

    I trust Edgar Wright though...

    by jellypop

    I'm not trying to will it to fail.

  • May 7, 2012, 12:54 p.m. CST


    by J-Dizzle

    The members have been set and the composition of the team is perfect. Why dilute it with new characters? Especially with someone as lame Ant Man. "Look at me! I shrink to the size of an Ant whilst maintaining the strength of a man!" Well whoopdee-fucking-doo. If Marvel wants to add new members so badly then they need to stop being a bunch of cheapskates and negotiate with the other studios to get established characters into the mix, such as Wolverine or Spiderman. I'm sure Fox and Sony sees the value of the Avengers franchise and would love to have a piece of that pie. I loved the Avengers. Hulk FTW. But as much as I enjoyed the movie, it was still weird as hell to see a Marvel movie where an of army aliens invade New York and.... Spiderman has nothing to say about that? That's his backyard for christ's sake! Avengers or no Avengers, he's going to do what he can to protect his city! Hell, do an Avengers vs X-Men movie. The Government enlists the help of the Avengers to combat the growing mutant threat. Its time to integrate the Marvel properties into a larger movie universe. The fans get what they want, and the studios get even more $$$$. Everybody wins!

  • Just stop typing, serious. Your a small minded visionless ass clown.

  • May 7, 2012, 12:56 p.m. CST


    by the Green Gargantua

  • May 7, 2012, 12:57 p.m. CST


    by Rick Webb

    Or GODZILLA VS. MEGALON. Jet Jaguar FTW, although the audience loses out on that one.

  • May 7, 2012, 12:58 p.m. CST

    Any Man is a supporting character at best.

    by antonphd

    At least if he's going to be integrated into the Avengers films.

  • May 7, 2012, 1:06 p.m. CST


    by J-Dizzle

    Not gonna happen unless Marvel comes to an agreement with Fox. Those characters are too tied up with the X-Men, and according to Fox' contract they have the right to produce a movie for any character that frequently appears in the X-Men Universe. That would most likely include Scarlett Witch and Quicksilver.

  • May 7, 2012, 1:12 p.m. CST

    I bet they bring back Derek Luke to be Falcon in Cap 2.

    by whatevillurks

    He will be retconned as being Gabe Jone's grandson. Luke hinted that Marvel wasnt finished with him. Would like to J.J. Fields stick around too as Union Jack.

  • Ultron was okay - cool but empty and limited - and of course The Vision is brilliant, but Pym himself, I've just never enjoyed anything they did with him. Ant-Man was always a dud, Giant-Man was always awkward and underwhelming, Yellowjacket was desperate and pointless, and the whole spouse-abuse thing was just ridiculous. He's surrounded by characters that are well-defined, consistent, and iconic. You only have to look at how much they constantly changed the guy, and how little difference he ever made to the core narrative of the team, to realize that he was ultimately a pointless experiment that overstayed his welcome. Same goes for Wasp in my mind, who was even more pointless. Leaving these two completely out of the Marvel big-screen experience is the best thing they could do, in my opinion. I think the idea above about a Pixar Ant-Man has some real promise - it could be the smaller kids' alternative to the PG-13 body-count-intensive Avengers-type films - but otherwise, just forget they ever existed.

  • He would hit the target in a number of ways. I'd love to see a Snipes or Idris Elba Black Panther used as something akin to the Batman of the Avengers world. Pros: 1) Racial diversity, which, apart from Sam Jackson's stunt-casting (a result of the Ultimate's stunt-race-changing), is lacking in the films so far. Not saying I think it's mandatory in some kind of PC way, but no reason not to give black kids a hero just as cool as the others. You've got some good black characters, Marvel - time to start using them. 2) He'd be very cool on screen, a strong, charismatic, enigmatic presence. 3) His gimmick - advanced, somewhat alien tech - would fit very well into the world they're putting together. One part fantasy, one part crazy-stuff-explained-by-technology. The downsides, as I see them: 1) His powers - extremely capable hand-to-hand combat - would be a little redundant with the current crew (Cap, Widow, and Hawkeye, who's suddenly a master ninja apparently) and, if the films are going cosmic as a certain cameo at the end of Avengers suggests, of limited use. 2) His tech-genius status could make the team a little scientific-genius heavy (Stark, Banner), though that's not such a bad thing to emphasize to kids as heroic. 3) There'd be stupid, mouth-breathing people who'd freak out about associations with the Black Panther movement. To hell with those people.

  • May 7, 2012, 1:32 p.m. CST


    by Dranem

    Some of you guys talking about doing so many standalone movies before the next Avengers movie? Even if they did 2 at a time like with Cap and Thor if they started them today they would still be a few years out. Robert Downey Jr. would be 70 by the time all the characters were introduced. Its an interesting dillemna now with all the success this movie is having. Do you cash in and dilute the product with more Avengers movies, or build up the brand more with several stand along movies with a new Avengers movie every 4 years?

  • May 7, 2012, 1:49 p.m. CST


    by The Gipper

    Ant-Man standalone movie is as bad of an idea as Vader's scream at the end of ROTS. Others mentioned Garrett Morris on SNL as Ant-Man. HULU has the skit here.

  • May 7, 2012, 1:53 p.m. CST

    Ant Man, no. Giant man/Goliath and Wasp, yes.

    by BiggusDickus

    Also, can we have Scarlet Witch, Vision, Valkyrie, Inhumans, Squdron Supreme, Nighthawk, Klaw and pretty much everything else that made the Avengers in the mid Seventies so good?

  • The studios have been able to make a lot of money on their isolated properties. Spidey has made, and will make, a bundle. FF and X-Men made bundles. But Sony and Fox have to realize that their days of being the main event are over. Spidey was an event when Raimi's films came out; now he's going to be just another pretty successful summer movie. FF made money, but was never an event, which is a travesty to that property. X-Men was an event in the Hugh Jackman days, but is now more of a novelty with a limited ceiling. And Avengers is surely going to be the most successful superhero film of all time. Unless the execs at those other two studios are delusional, they have to see the writing on the wall. Spidey's too isolated to return to the level of an "event" film. The FF haven't been handled right at all. Both they and the X-Men could be truly epic, but do those studios want to up the ante that far with their limited sets of toys? They'd now need as star-studded a cast as Avengers, probably more so, to even approach the level of "event film". Even the Avengers, which seems so epic and eventful now, will soon hit the "what next?" state. The only answer, if these studios want to have gargantuan success, is to join forces. Work out some kind of deal where Marvel gets its right back, but the other studios get a cut for the next 20 years (or forever). Fox and Sony are relieved of the burden of having to churn out wannabe-blockbusters every few years, and the stories and successes are now able to get bigger than any of the three studios could do itself. We know this is all going to end in Secret Wars, so we should stop pretending otherwise. :)

  • May 7, 2012, 2:31 p.m. CST

    Wasn't It Ant-Man who stopped Loki in Avengers #1

    by cookylamoo

    Not too shabby.

  • May 7, 2012, 2:31 p.m. CST


    by the Green Gargantua

    You are not Marvel fans, go wait in line for the next Green Lantern film bitches. The world of Pym Particles could blow minds, your just to slow and incapable of envisioning it. shameful.

  • May 7, 2012, 2:52 p.m. CST

    The actual numbers just came in - $207.4 Million. Damn!

    by Amadeo Zeller

  • Tony's Birthday Party does follow the general Demon in a Bottle arc, albeit in about 5 minutes total - Tony drinks too damn much, somebody takes the Iron Man suit away from him. Tony gets his shit together. Demon in a Bottle is there, it just goes by reaaallllllyyyyyyy fast.

  • May 7, 2012, 3:16 p.m. CST

    pistol-whipped_by_g1megatron: Re: Demon in a Bottle

    by MichaelH

    " End of the day, it's still for kids" Let's be accurate. These movies are written for young people and the young at heart looking for uplifting entertainment. Not too far from a description of the audience for modern comic books. DIB is a classic comic book story and would make a great movie. Maybe nothing in Iron Man is high lit, and the dialog is as bad as anything in 1980 comic book, but DIB is a time and focus group tested morality play that the fans don't forget, and I have to believe being exposed to the story at a young age helped a few people over the years.

  • May 7, 2012, 3:36 p.m. CST

    F*** Ant Man, I want to see...

    by Stygian

    I could've lived without seeing Paltrow/Pepper Potts again, with an all-out alien invasion, how come Tony didn't call Rhodey? Sure, he's never been a Avenger (though West Coast), why not let it slide? BTW... No Black Panther. With the problems the REAL black panthers are, change it to Luke Cage or Rhodey!! Just my thought.

  • May 7, 2012, 3:49 p.m. CST

    what i'd like to see (not that anyone cares, but...)

    by wrx

    1. Ms Marvel 2. Disney and Fox presents Avengers vs. X-Men better title though, don't want it to sound too corny to the rubes 3. How 'bout Marvel really fucks over DC/Warners and makes a Supreme Power Movie, and then the sequel could be about that Ultimate Power story arc where they meet the Ultimates(Avengers). i wonder could they do that without getting sued? Anyway...just the ramblings of a fan-boy.

  • May 7, 2012, 3:54 p.m. CST

    Gi-Ant Man vs. Apache Chief: Who Wins?!

    by Joe Plumber

    Discuss amongst yourselves.

  • May 7, 2012, 3:55 p.m. CST

    I want to see a Mister Monster movie

    by Joe Plumber

    Who's with me?

  • May 7, 2012, 3:56 p.m. CST

    Hank Pym

    by wrx

    i don't much care for Hank Pym, but his presence could bring an interesting dynamic and a seriously flawed character to the mix and that can't be bad for storytelling purposes, right? Plus ULTRON KICKS ASS

  • May 7, 2012, 3:57 p.m. CST

    Also, would love a Great Lakes Avengers film

    by Joe Plumber

    with Mr. Immortal, Big Berth, Flat Man, Doorman and Squirrel Girl. Maybe Grasshopper. Who's with me?!

  • May 7, 2012, 3:58 p.m. CST


    by wrx

    Apache Chief. just because i say so.

  • May 7, 2012, 4:03 p.m. CST

    wrx, oddly enough, I agree

    by Joe Plumber

    reason being that Native American spiritual power always trumps pseudoscience.

  • May 7, 2012, 4:14 p.m. CST


    by J-Dizzle

    The Avengers has reinvigorated the superhero genre. After the Captain America and Thor movies, the superhero movies seemed to be getting stale (aside from arguably the anticipation for DKR). Now The Avengers has probably piqued everybody's interest for stand alone super hero movies, but only for movies related to Avengers characters. Spiderman has lost its flair. X-Men's only saving grace was First Class (a surprisingly awesome flick), but the X-Men property would only probably be good for another First Class type prequel at most. A Daredevil reboot won't help that character that much (unless they get some decent writers), and the less said about FF the better! Movie-verse unification is the logical answer. The studios need to put their egos aside and be willing to at least talk about the idea of getting all the Marvel characters together (at least for one huge epic movie - a final Marvel Superhero payout). Secret Wars would undoubtedly work as natural storyline for such a crossover, but in my opinion they should probably limit it to Secret Wars 2. Personally, I would like to keep the main setting on Earth for the movies.

  • May 7, 2012, 4:42 p.m. CST

    The case for Ant Man

    by A for Aristocrat

    There are alot of reasons for an Ant Man movie. For starters, if they stay true to the comics then Hank Pym is essential to introduce the Wasp, The Vision and one of the most important Avengers villain Ultron. Second, the movie would probably do Incredible Hulk numbers which wouldn't be a blockbuster but they shouldnt lose any money. Third, that would bring another female into the Avengers and Whedon's entire career is built around the loser finding their power so if the movie failed Whedon would have a chance to make them cool like the Hulk. Also, the Avengers need more members with actual powers. As good as the movie was, half the team was on the ground in a fist fight. Another flyer shooting bio blasts or a giant kicking ass would help diversify things more. Finally, if Ant Man bombed they could rebrand him in Avengers and do a Giant Man movie. I think Marvel has the right idea here.

  • $75-$125 million sounds about right. If they spent $200 million to put out what was shown in the trailer, someone needs to be fired for not putting the money up on the screen. I also detest the current trailer of Prometheus as it pretty much lays out the entire film. Earthlings track clues to a planet where they encounter aliens in hibernation, they end up waking them up, and then need to kill them before they can head back to Earth. THEY EVEN SHOW THE ALIENS AND ALIEN SHIP BEING DEFEATED WITH THE BIG DOUGHNUT ROLL, HULK CATCHES IRONMAN STYLE. Why would you want to see the film? You've seen the cliff notes version in the trailer.

  • May 7, 2012, 4:48 p.m. CST

    I kinda want to see a Luke Cage movie...

    by Ultron ver 2.0

    ....his character was one of the most fun to play in Ultimate Alliance. DAT CHAIN.

  • May 7, 2012, 5:33 p.m. CST

    I saw Avengers twice and I'm a huge Batman fan...

    by Lloyd Fenton

    but the Avengers (and the other Marvel Studios output) was a breathe of fresh air. Comic book action, suits look great, epic battles. It is pretty much impossible for TDKR to beat this opening. Let's not even worry about it. I expect Nolan will give us a good film, but something in the back of my DC fanboy head, says, "follow Marvels direction". Don't get me wrong I collected Marvel comics too, but the majority of my comics were DC. Nice to see someone pull off a crossover cinematic universe! WB dropped the ball big time on its properties, lets hope they pull up their socks and try to emulate what Marvel has done. Well done, and well deserved!

  • May 7, 2012, 5:37 p.m. CST

    Moon Knight??

    by Raymond

    you mean Batman Light? That would suck more than Ang Lee's Hulk

  • May 7, 2012, 5:41 p.m. CST

    I think Scott originally wanted $250 million for 2 films?


    They decided on 1 film for 100-150 million. There's a rumor that the budget ballooned up to $230 mil. Which isn't very surprising, Robin Hood cost 200 million and Prometheus looks very sexy, it takes some scratch to produce those top shelf visuals.

  • May 7, 2012, 6:08 p.m. CST

    Ant Man Movie

    by Barron34

    If an Ant-Man movie is made, it probably would do well to establish Hank Pym/Ant Man/Giant Man/Yellowjacket in a manner that would be compatible with future Avengers movies. Pym is a key character in Avengers Mythos, but does not really stand all that well alone. Janet Pym/The Wasp would need to be involved, and any Hank Pym story needs to be aware of Ultron, a major, major Avengers villain (a very powerful and destructive robot) that Pym originally creates.

  • I think I lost respect for the character after he was repeatedly trashed by Whirlwind.

  • May 7, 2012, 6:31 p.m. CST

    Black Panther

    by Barron34

    I always thought Laurence Fishburne would make a great Black Panther. They could make a strong Black Panther stand-alone film, I think. T'Challa is a good character with a strong background that could make a good film.

  • May 7, 2012, 6:33 p.m. CST

    What About Yellowjacket?

    by Barron34

    I seem to remeber some storylines when Hank Pym was effective as Yellowjacket. The George Perez years, when the Avengers fought an ultra-powered Count Nefaria, Ultron, and so on...

  • May 7, 2012, 8:12 p.m. CST

    The Vision and Scarlet Witch, dammit!

    by FlyingToupee

  • May 7, 2012, 8:14 p.m. CST

    Oh, and build up to a Defenders movie

    by FlyingToupee

    Subby, Dr. Strange, Norrin Radd and the Hulk versus Cap, Vision, Scarlet Witch and Thor.

  • May 7, 2012, 8:27 p.m. CST

    Some characters are problematic

    by A for Aristocrat

    As much as I would like the Scarlet Witch in the Avengers there is the whole mutant issue. There might be some issues with Fox and if there aren't then they have to address the mutant issue and her weird hard to describe powers. As for the Defenders, Fox has the Silver Surfer rights. Now Disney could get some of these characters but there is no way they are going to share Avenger profits with anyone.

  • May 7, 2012, 9:49 p.m. CST

    Pym'll Never Happen Because . . .

    by Buzz Maverik

    ...Jim Shooter decided to shock us by having Yellowjacket smack his wife and Mark Millar decided to really shock us by having Giant Man take a can of Raid to his wife. Even if they WISELY stay away from this in the movies, this is too much baggage and it'll come out like Hank Pym was running for office.

  • May 7, 2012, 10:13 p.m. CST

    Ant Man / Giant Man aka Hank Pym invented Marvel's Skynet...

    by Immortal_Fish the form of Ultron. Why can't you people wrap your minds around how this is one of Cameron's greatest concepts as applied to the Marvel universe? Only it PREDATED the Terminator series? None of you see how this is a big deal? Do any of you realize that Hulk debuted as a supporting character in the second half of a comic periodical that prominently featured Hank Pym as the star? Oh. That's right. This is AICN. That's why. Lookit, children... Hank Pym is nearly as much of a corner stone to the Marvel universe as Rick Jones is. It's a crying shame that neither character has been represented in film form yet.

  • May 7, 2012, 10:37 p.m. CST

    Is this Ant Man/ Hank Pym clamor going to rage on much longer?

    by DoctorWho?

    Weren't people also clamoring for a Gambit movie some years ago too? Ya, that would have been great...*cough*

  • Who has what and for how long? I know Spiderman is at Sony, FF at Fox, XMen at Fox, Punisher at Lionsgate/MGM? What is the time limit on those? Is there one? What are the stipulations?

  • May 7, 2012, 11:17 p.m. CST

    doctorwho? re: Hank Pym

    by Immortal_Fish

    Unlike the Cajun, he ain't just another me-too anti-hero character that is utterly disposable once his arc is done. Like it or not, he's always been there through the years. He persists. If Avengers is to continue, then it must be with Hank Pym, with or without the ant/giant mythos. They figured out a way to make Jarvis work; they'll figure out a way to make Pym work.

  • May 7, 2012, 11:34 p.m. CST

    Rick Jones!

    by deelzbub

    He needs to be involved in Cap 2 and Avengers 2. He's the lynchpin of the Kree/Skrull War and could replace Coulson as the everyman character. Rick Jones!

  • May 7, 2012, 11:36 p.m. CST

    Marvel now has the dough to just buy the Micronauts rights

    by deelzbub

    and finally film Mantlo's Micronauts! Issues #1-12 Even if it is just animated!

  • May 8, 2012, 12:27 a.m. CST

    Thanks, deelzbub...

    by Immortal_Fish

    A friend speculated that Marvel lost their grounding human element once Coulson died. I speculated that his death could potentially pave the way to introduce a much more worthy replacement. Maybe an old mainstay, like Rick Jones. He's one of those convenient second-string characters like Jimmy Olson, only his backstory MATTERS. Motherfucker was another Bucky, a Hulk, Captain Marvel, etc. Civil War showed how indispensable Rick Jones is. Recent Hulk arc showed how disposable he can be (A-Bomb). If any Marvel character deserved a shot at multi-picture congruity like Coulson, it's Jones.

  • In the X-Men films, the premise is that mutants are pretty much a fairly common thing, well known and utilized and existed for a long time and are relatively well known/feared. In Marvel's films, the Avengers are all extraordinary. Mutants as portrayed commonly in the X-Men don't exist. This is a HUGE discrepancy! This is why there will be no X-Men/Wolverine and Avengers cross-overs. It won't work... Not the way it's been set up... Spider-Man, on the other hand, could work, as could reboots of Fantastic 4, Blade & Daredevil. Not to mention new introductions of characters like Dr. Strange. Though of these I'd say only Spidey and Dr. Strange are worth bringing in. It'd be nice if Marvel and Sony could work something out for Spidey. He'd be a character with a difference and considering the reboot, also the youngest member and a nicer contrasted addition to the Avengers, who can still carry on his own films. Hell, if future Avengers could lead up to the Secret Wars, we could even see the black costume origin done better.

  • May 8, 2012, 1:30 a.m. CST

    saw AVENGERS! I plan to see it again!

    by darthSaul666

    You know I can relate to Harry's comment in his review about feeling hugely underwelmed by the TDKR trailer after the film. Not that I think it will be bad but it would a cameo by Darkseid to compare to the Avengers IMO. And we all know that won't happen. And also Avengers is the opposite of dark and gritty and realistic which has offically been done too many times.....

  • May 8, 2012, 1:34 a.m. CST

    edit button! hrrrmmmm!

    by darthSaul666

  • May 8, 2012, 5:55 a.m. CST

    In Avengers II -- Cap saves Hindu man: "Thank Vishnu

    by Dingbatty

    and Lakshmi you saved me." Cap: "Sorry, Sir, there's only one God, and I'm pretty sure he doesn't have blue skin, four arms, and a wife."

  • May 8, 2012, 6:03 a.m. CST

    Avengers I Cap: " Sorry, Ma'am, there's only one God,

    by Dingbatty

    and I'm pretty sure he doesn't dress like a fag." Ha, kidding. I've always enjoyed Whedon's dialogue, and get what he was doing here, but it can be misconstrued.

  • May 8, 2012, 6:52 a.m. CST

    Does nobody find the idea exciting visually?

    by boosebaster

    Think about it, no-one has done a big budget film looking at the world from a micro-scale in ages, have they? Like Land of the Giants or Honey I Shrunk The Kids but with what they cna put up on screen now? Yes please. Plus I'm excited that Joe Cornish is working on the script with Edgar Wright, but since most of you fools hated Attack The Block that's probably not a big deal to you. When Joss Whedon was announced as the director of The Avengers, 90% of this community suggested he couldn't pull it off. He did, and then some. In fact, Marvel have been getting everything right. If they press ahead with an Ant Man movie do you not think it's time to maybe admit they might know what they are doing? Have they not earned that yet?

  • At the end of Avengers ol one eye says - the world is filling up with extraordinary people. Clearly they are setting the stage for interaction of all types, mutants as well as costumed villains. And since they added aliens, they can add anything in the marvel universe. I need a hit *hit*

  • May 8, 2012, 12:49 p.m. CST

    Just rewatched some scenes of Ang Lee's HULK again.

    by DoctorWho?

    Wow, does it look bad. Doesn't hold up well at all...not that I really liked it in the first place.

  • May 8, 2012, 2:14 p.m. CST

    deelzbub shit yeah, I would love to see a Micronauts movie.

    by Stalkeye

    Gale Anne Hurd was onboard to produce the film based on MEGO's most popular Toyline, but alas it's stuck in development Hell.

  • No Cap'n Mar-vell cause he's like...Dead?!?

  • May 8, 2012, 2:19 p.m. CST

    Yes, and not just any Micronauts story will do

    by deelzbub

    It must be Marvel's as visualized by Bill Mantlo

  • Have Adam take on his evil counterpart Magus and his 1000 Black Knights, outwit the Star Thief , form an alligence with Gamora and Pip the Troll and of course die at the hands of Thanos. One of the best Comic based cosmic sagas is so deserving of film treatment. If not, I'll settle for Iron Fist.

  • May 8, 2012, 2:50 p.m. CST

    RE: "It must be Marvel's as visualized by Bill Mantlo "

    by Stalkeye

    There's no other version as far as I'm concerned. Mantlo's stories were just as compelling as Lucas' SW saga if not more. Professor Prometheus and H.E.L.L. alone is worth making this film.

  • Sure the X-men could be included, but only if we completely ignore Fox's X-Men films and completely reboot the X-Men. Then sure. Otherwise it makes no sense and is a discrepancy to try to tie together Avengers with what the current X-Men films have set up.

  • May 9, 2012, 9:43 a.m. CST

    Agreed on Starlin's Warlock

    by deelzbub

    Don't know how the suits will react to it's anti-authoritarian, anti-organized religion stances. All the aliens want Warlock to rule them and lead them and he tells them they don't need leaders, to lead themselves. So awesome and so out of the norm for a space saga.

  • I can't see this being any good as a comedy.

  • Sorry ganymede3010...