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The first... full length shot of Travolta in BATTLEFIELD EARTH'
Alright... so these aliens in BATTLEFIELD EARTH are supposed to be like 8 feet tall or something right? So they just put lifts in their KISS boots and put a funky coneheadish appliance on? I thought they were supposed to be this reptilianish creature in the book. Oh well... I know a lot of people that are planning on this movie sucking like no movie has ever sucked before. HOWEVER, the word is still out on this one. I haven't heard from any screenings anywhere yet, and script reviews (based on an early draft) have been very negative, but that is an early draft. Sigh. Well... here's the scoop...
This picture, taken from the latest issue of Movieline, claims to be
the first full shot of Travolta as the 9 foot tall alien Terl from the
upcoming film, Battlefield Earth. The man he is dragging around would
logically be the hero of the film played by Barry Pepper, whom we know from
Saving Private Ryan and The Green Mile.
The film is based of course on the book by L. Ron Hubbard and takes
place sometime in the year 3000 as humans have been enslaved by a race of
aliens called the Psychlos and are using the Earth as a mining colony. Barry
Pepper plays a young farmer who happens to be humanity's only hope for
survival. This film covers only half of the book and if all goes well a
sequel should complete the story in a few years.
Travolta's appearance in the film had been a well guarded secret up
until now. Gaining access to the set was nearly impossible as the noted
scientologist would bar any visitors to see him in costume.
The film, which was shot just outside Montreal over the course of last
summer, has generated a curiously small amount of hype considering it's
large budget, which has been estimated around the 90 million dollar range.
This is a film Travolta wanted to make ten years ago but no one paid much
notice to it as his career was in a proverbial rut. The original plans were
for Travolta to play the hero of the film but he refused claiming that he
was too old and too heavy.
The verdict is still out on this one as our only glimpse of the film
is a teaser trailer which has been shown very seldomly here in Montreal.
Nevertheless, this could be a fun film as Travolta has proven to be a good
villan in the past. It opens on May 12th.
Until next time,
Lynch on Lynch
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This is some funny shit... I can't be only one who burst out laughing after seeing that photo.
"suck, Suck, SUCK!!!"
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This confirms it. What a waste.
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... I can see why the verdict would still be out. I mean, this picture doesn't suggest "SUCK" to me at all. Good Lord... I am getting drunk and going to see this movie ten times opening day. WHO'S WITH ME?!?!
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Ya know, just seeing the trailer for the movie made me go out and start reading the book. But after seeing this photo...eechh. There's no way that they can do the book justice with live-action film. It ought to be a serious animated job, something epic in length (at least they're not compressing the story into a 2-hour film), with the artisty of Miyazaki and the direction of Shirow. And no fucking songs or talking animals.
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Mar 31, 2000 5:36:48 PM CST
His appearance has been closely guarded? There's a full length
by niiiice
It played before that retch-inducing mass of camerawork Romeo Must Die. We get plenty of shots of not only Travolta in his mad-scientists dredlocks, but also of Forrest Whitaker. They look incredibly silly and there is some weird eye thing going on as well. After seeing that trailer, all I could tell myself was "Damn Romeo Must Die better kick ass to make up for forcing me to watch this trailer...." If you've seen the movie, you know how bad my night ended up being. My, my, my...and to think Pulp Fiction was only a few short years ago.
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First of all, the Psychlos in the book were described as 10 foot tall bear-like creatures with fur, large paws and ridged eye-bones. They didn't look like Klingons in KISS costumes! They should have gone CG Characters for the Psychlos all the way. If Lucas could do it, so could Travolta. Second, Jonnie Goodboy Tyler is a hunter. That's why he gets into the mess in the first place. Third, it sounds like they have totally bastardized the plot for the movie. I predict the worst for this film.
For anyone who hasn't read this book, don't but put off by all the Scientology hoopla. The book is excellent and very exciting (albiet long - it's close to 1000 pages) It's Hubbert's best work and pre-dates Scientology (it was published about three years or so before his death in '85) -
Mar 31, 2000 5:41:00 PM CST
A few suggestions on "how to do the book justice" and why this f
by niiiice
You say live-action film cannot do the book justice? Well, I have a simple solution! If you want the novel Battlefield Earth to get what it deserves, simply drop it into your nearest trash bin, fill it 3/4 full of gasoline (or cheaper flammable alternatives) and ignite. THAT'll do the book justice. It doesn't matter how horrible this film turns out to be. Haven't you read any of Hubbard's other novels and wondered "how the hell could this be a New York Times bestseller?" It's been documented by Time Magazine and Reader's Digest that Scientologists went out and bought ALL the copies of Hubbard's books out of the bookstore! Think of how this can translate into the film world! Hordes of Scientologists turn up every weekend and buy out all the tickets in your local cineplex. And yet you say "its not about Scientology"...
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Hubbard's writing makes Anne Rice and Ayn Rand look like literary gods. He is a very sub-par writer. He is a theological crank, and students in my department's philosophy 101 classes would laugh Hubbard's "philosophy" into oblivion. No religious studies department that I know of even considers this a legitimate area of research. So why in the Hell has anyone chosen to turn any of Hubbard's science fiction into a movie? Hey Travolta, you like Hubbard, I like the pope. But I wouldn't recommend turning any of JP II's pulp sci-fi novels into movies. Do something worthy of treatment and try to blend Scientology nonsense into that. How about Battleground Earth,a dark future where the knights templar come out of hiding to fight the scientologists for theological hegemony over the human race? You can even dance in it!
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I found that the book Battlefield Earth stimulated my imagination like few Sci-Fi novels did. That said, Travolta-Terl may stimulate my funnybone like few Sci-Fi movies has.
Battlefield Earth, the film, looks like it MAY rise to the level of ID4. It MAY make lots of cash and eye-popping FX, but won't have mainstream revisitation. I think if they lose the boots and use either forced perspective/set design...Gene Simmons, I mean John Travolta may be passable. -
I hear that Matt McConnaughey (a well-known member of the Branch Davidians) will star as David Koresh in an unyet titled action flick, and Kevin Spacey (long-time Moonie) is politicking to remake INCHON. And Lou Diamond Phillips recently revealed that he's a dedicated member of the Manson Family, so guess what biopic he wants to make!
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That's how they make a 10 foot tall alien ? By putting a man in really big boots ? Ahahahahaa!! Can't wait to see this movie. Imagine all the fights that are going to occur in the theatres when people start ragging on scientology in public bigtime.
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a fitting tribute to the man... cheers. wherever they premiere this flick, all you regular people stay away from it. it could be ground zero for Jesus' return. Shit, he could take out Michael Jackson, John Travolta, Tom Cruise, Nicole Kidman, Lisa Marie Presley in one fail swoop. We can only wish.
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Travolta in the suit is one of the goofiest things I've ever seen. I can already smell the feces emanating from the cineplex.
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It's the bad guy from PRINCE OF SPACE! I'd know that schnozz anywhere. As long as Travolta punctuates every sentence with "Heh, heh, heh", I'm there.
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I was at a private screening of "THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT" (good movie, by the way) at San Diego's Miramar Marine base, and they were showing a trailer for Battlefield Earth. It showed John Travolta in his big alien getup walking along side some puny looking human person. the other aspects of the film looked intriguing as well. I hope it does well when it's released.
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Mar 31, 2000 6:25:54 PM CST
ohmy... I REALLY hope, that some part of the 90 Mil. are spent o
by planet orgo
... to let them really look like 8, 9 or 10 feet tall.
This looks... ugh!!! yuck!! and moooommmyyyyy!!!!!! I was highly amused by the little head-shot of big shubby T. that was visible in that internet-trailer for a glimpse. And curious... being an enemy of sientology or more specifically their methods, that's an achievement. But now... I'm sorry Moriaty, but I don't want another Indipendence Day rip-off (which was already a rip-off of every sci-fi ever done) having above all the cool looking aliens replaced by this crap.
I haven't read the book, but a friend told me in depth (trying to convince me) the whole plot, wich I can't remember anymore in detail, but I remember it having almost every plot-element I hate in sience fiction. BTW. I LOVE sience fiction. I'm sorry. Was interested, but not anymore. -
Anybody who sat through the Battlefield Earth trailer and thought anything less than "this is going to be the worst movie of all time" has no business breathing the same air as me.
Battlefield Earth, as well as all of the other L Ron Hubbard (may he rot in hell) books constitute what many consider to be among the worst sci-fi novels ever written. The movie will truly be a fitting accompaniment.
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You're kidding? Right? Bwahahahahahaha!!! Joke!!!
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...that I work in a cinema, so will be able to laugh my tits off to this movie without having to line the pockets of a bunch of theologically delusional psychopaths.
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this flick doesnt look too bad...i didnt read the book, so i really dont know what to expect.
I dig Travolta though, so i'll probably see it.
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Mar 31, 2000 7:09:52 PM CST
Goddamn, I KNEW this movie was gonna suck from the moment I firs
by toe jam
I mean, just look at the title...Battlefield: Earth. What a fucking generic title. The Church of Scientology sucks so much! I recommend to anyone who hasn't already to look through your local TV listings and see if the A&E channel's going to be showing the episode of Investigative Reports about the Church of Scientology to see what a joke it is. John Travolta is a selfish fucking pig for allowing the Church to get even ANY of the merchandising royalties. Does anyone know if Battlefield: Earth is some kind of allegory for the real world? Do the Psylock's (or whatever the fuck they're called) represent us non-Scientologists? Are we raping the planet of all its resources, while enslaving its rightful inhabitants (i.e., Scientologists)? Oh, dread! I'm so afraid now! I must run out and join the Church of Scientology immediately in order to be saved! Note: I'm being sarcastic, in case you couldn't tell.
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I read the book, enjoyed it but I too wondered how the hell they were going to do this as a liveaction movie, I did some searching on various websites for script reviews, I didn't read a single positvie one and it sounded like they totatlly ruined the book. the humans were not "enslaved" by the Physclos, a group of them were used by Terl for he's own uses. Jesus that's the point of the book. good grief. Looks like I'll be seeing rocky and Bullwinkle that weekend afterall
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I thought the Princess in Episode I looked funnier (let alone Skywalker on the original Star Wars movie, or Chewy, etc.). That said, I do not think that from a pic we can give any justice to a movie. I read the book and I liked it a lot and I can't wait to see the movie.
About the religious believes of the actors/writers: Come on ppl! Give me a break! I do not know anyone that doesn't read Orson Scott Card just because he's a Mormom, and I tell you, it shows in his books.
BTW, I am not a scientologist, but I think that everyone can believe whatever they can.
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I know I'm opening myself up to flaming here, but I have to say, I've enjoyed some of Hubbard's Sci Fi. And I am not a Scientologist, and think Scientology is pure hilarious hooey.
I got quite a ways into that 'dekalogy'- I think it's called Mission Earth- and it was very entertaining, if a bit fluffy. And I've read zillions of books, & many of the great science fiction classics.
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Mar 31, 2000 7:32:43 PM CST
This is a photo from the set. They're probably filming from Tra
by brendan3
Travolta is suposed to be a 9 foot tall alien...if you look at the shot as it is probably framed from his waist up, the illusion works. Don't get me wrong. I still think this film is going to suck, but not because of this shot.
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Check out http://www.battlefieldearth.net for the trailer. At least they got the aspect ratio right! Looks like they're using the old trench & boxes tricks for the height difference. ... Between this and Titan AE, doesn't look good for the survival of the planet this summer...
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Ya know, I tried reading 'Battlefield Earth' when I was in high school and couldn't get through it back then because I just didn't think it was written all that well. And now they've decided to make it into a film? Man does this look horrendous. It seems to have a very cheesy 70's movie (or bad 80's T.V. sci-fi) look to it. I wouldn't be surprised if the Church of Scientology had somehow blackmailed Travolta into doing this thing. Wow.
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Mar 31, 2000 8:11:14 PM CST
El Ron's got one big steaming pile of dog doo ready to be releas
by mamajama33
Sure the airplanes flying through the city looked pretty in the trailer, but this movie is gonna suck. I was skeptical of Travolta as a villian. Broken Arrow was ok. But When I heard Travolta laugh in the trailer I cringed. He sucks at being bad. I was just waiting for him to break into some 70's disco dance and swing a paint can at someone. I think this movie is gonna bomb. The costume totally proves it. He looks like an If they mated between Beldar the Conehead and Lurch from Adams Family
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the book was pretty good SF and it had nothing to do with hubbards scientology crap. i'll give the movie a chance travolta has surprised me before "hey rocky watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat."
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the picture does look like bob marley meets gene simmons though.
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This photo is obviously a shot from the set itself, without the lighting CGI and all the rest. I doubt anyone with an IQ over 82 would seriously think this is what the movie will look like! And who cares? I personally can't wait to see this movie--along with Neuromancer and Dune, Battlefield Earth is one of my favorite SF books of all time, and it will make a GREAT MOVIE! And Travolta and Pepper are well-suited as the leads. What we really need to see is a single cel from the film itself--that'll show the real look--and WHEN can we do that? OPENING DAY! See ya there...
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This book was great! Obviously to anyone who has read it and also seen this trailer, the movie will be quite different. That does'nt mean it will suck! Both Travolta Barry Pepper and also Forest Whittaker all rock and have the Tallent to help make this movie top-notch. I'm optimistic!
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I don't know what you guys are talking about. This movie is going to kick ass. I read the book a long time ago and I really dug it, and contrary to other opinions, I think it's much better suited to turn into a movie than some other sci-fi books (like Enders Game, boy is that movie going to be boring)
Don't underestimate Travolta's ability to play something a little unusual. No one thought that he could do a decent job in "Pulp Fiction", but he nailed that role.
I'm gonna go see the film when it opens. See you there...
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Doesn't "Terl" sound like a new brand of toothpaste? And Psychlos? Weren't they the bad guys in "The Care Bears?" How did this piece of crap get made? Travolta wins "Pimp of the Year" honors for those platform shoes. (picture caption: "Fool biatch! Don't make me bust my size 18 EEE platform off in yo' ass! Get out there and snag you some high-end buisnessman booty, 'fore I bust a glock on yo' trick-ass.")
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Ha ha ha! Too damn funny! I just went to the website and although I can see some of what people here are saying (about not judging it before they add all of the effects), I'm still not really convinced. It just looks...well...kinda stupid. I mean, no cgi in the world can get rid of those clunky fucking shoes. Christ, Travolta really DOES look like Rob Zombie crossed with Gene Simmons (as somebody here said earlier). I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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I think Travolta can pull off being the bad guy. Anybody see Face Off? Sure it was cheesy but damn I thought he was pretty good.
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Hoo-boy this one's gonna smell. He looks like a punk rocker klingon with gun boats for feet.
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I've been laughing for five minutes. This could very well suck SO badly, it will become an all-time great "bad" film. They should pull out all the stops and have them dance disco at the end a la "Communion." He could really cut some moves in those boots. I suspect this must be another April Fool's joke, though.
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We had more realistic costumes in the fake sci-fi movies we made in high school! It looks like Travolta's head is pasted on and Barry Pepper looks like a Jesus Christ Superstar extra. Oh, maybe that's the point. Well, if this is legit, I'd have to go with the "This is gonna suck!" camp. Sigh.
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But you've got to love the codpiece.
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Travolta needs to be hit on the head with a tack hammer.
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A very respected anti-scientology group is saying that B.E. contains subliminal messages aimed at recruiting new members into the "church". Check it out: http://www.factnet.org/lawsuit.htm
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this looks to be a pretty enticing
shot of the film. the cinematography is A+ and the costumes definitely dont look like something my seven year old sister made. kudos to all that are involved in this gem.
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It's smellin like this summer's requisite disaster(a la WWW, Godzilla, B&R).I once thought it held potential, but more & more its comin off like a lousy vanity project.
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That's filthy Mormon. With a capital 'M':)
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what the fuck is up with the Spice Girl shoes?
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Apr 01, 2000 12:36:21 AM CST
The Rastafarian Frankenstein sings Puttin On The Ritz
by fatal discharge
...with a little soft-shoe number this could be a camp classic. Poor deluded Travolta is already planning a sequel to this. Talk about bad things done in the name of religion - first the Pope had to apologize for the sins of the Christian faith and now this!
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Folks, don't miss the Soundtrack from Battlefield Earth! :)
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I read Battlefield Earth about 10 years ago and I thought it was pretty cool. I tried to see if L. Ron would try to sneak in any Scientology Mojo into my brain, but I really didn't notice anything. I know Scientology is anti-psychiatry and the aliens are call Psychlo's. That's as close as the mojo got i think.
So to sum up to those that haven't and don't plan on reading the book : L. Ron Hubbard - obviously a kook. Scientology - I think MindHead (Bowfinger anyone?)is a much better 'religion'. B.E., the book - I found it entertaining reading.
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they don't know what the fuck a quarter pounder is! No they got the metric system over there!"
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Apr 01, 2000 1:11:27 AM CST
Krankor-"Ha, a lowly bootblack! He couldn't be the Prince Of Spa
by uncapie
Haaaa! Haaaa! Haaa!
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the Iron Man suit with the big feet.
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Apr 01, 2000 1:17:24 AM CST
"You know, you can't polish a turd, but if you put eyes and ears
by uncapie
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You guys really crack me up--better entertainment than the Olsen twins on crack! Subliminals in a picture produced by Warners? You STUPID! It's against federal law--and like they'd open themselves up to not only lawsuits but jail time?? And since when does a movie have the power to seduce anyone--except trekkies? Give me a break! But then again--keep it up, as it's pretty damn amusing to see who all the moron I'll-believe-anything guys are! Very funny....
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Apr 01, 2000 2:36:10 AM CST
Looks more like a Travolta "vehicle" than a faithful adaptation.
by frank rizzo
What the hell is up with the boots?? What "costume" is travolta wearing--there isn't any, other than the kind of stuff you can see at the local club scene. Psycholos are supposed to have talons and fangs and fur--I distinctly remember fur in the book. And they don't breathe AIR, it is critical to how they are defeated, why isn't travolta wearing some sort of gas-mask???
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I think I'll see the movie and judge it on it's own merits. Sorry if this seems radical. GG
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from a girl with a bonnet
it's not too long
and it's not too strong
but what I have to say
is that Travolta might be gay
because those boots he'a a wearin'
have got me's a starin'
and I don't think that I want to play
Toys from the film look like utter crap
and actors from the film can't fill in the gaps
I think it'll suck
but I might be amock
Those boots are fucking dumb
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Apr 01, 2000 4:01:53 AM CST
B:E has nothing to do with Scientology and the movie will suck (
by scopa
I can't believe you people think this story is bad because of the authors "religion". I have read this book 2 times and its really a fun read! It's about 1000 pages of entertainment that has NOTHING AT ALL to do with a "religion" that the author didn't come up with until later in his life!!!! Thats like saying Hitlers paintings as a prosepctive artist were bad because he was a Nazi! Yes he was a Nazi, Yes Nazi's are bad, but his life b4 the Nazi's can't be judged by how he turned out. L. Ron may have created a wako "religion" but don't discount this particular book because of it.
The story is about Humanity fighting to take back their planet from a bunch of money hungery aliens. It's so much fun to read because of everything that happens! First Johnny gets caught, then he helps take back the planet, then (my favorite part of the book...) He works with the galactic BANK to stop them from forclosing on the earth and opening it to the highest bidder! I mean think about that! Earth opened up for the highest bidding alien race! it was funny, and I found it really entertaining. AND THAT WAS THE POINT OF THE BOOK! ENTERTAINMENT!
Anyway... I think this picture is horrible, the movie will suck and stop talking about scientology!
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....this movie has just about everything to do with Scientology. Besides the fact that the Scientologists consider everything that Hubbard wrote as "scripture", even his sci-fi books, the book is a close interpretation of a document in Scientology that you don't get to read called OT III (Operating Thetan Level 3), where an alien named Xenu (or Xemu) trapped some aliens into volcanos on Earth (back then known as Teegeeak), blew up the volcanos, and are now covered with these things called "body thetans". Think about it: Terl and Psychlos = Xenu/Xemu, enslaved humans = rebel aliens. Even the name of the bad guys, Psychlos, is after psychiatrists, which Scns hate. The Scns, I guarantee, intend to use this movie as a recruiting tool for their "religion". As far as the subliminals go...I wouldn't doubt it. Evidence has shown that subliminals don't really work unless you're already consciously thinking about it, but certain subliminals are illegal. If they think it works, they will try to put it in the movie.
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First off, I love my Sci-Fi movies can't really get into the Sci-Fi books. But, I read two sci-fi novels by L. Ron and one, Battlefield Earth was Ed Wood type cheesiness, even with the power of imagination. And the other which was actually a 10 volume novel (L. Ron called it a Dekalogy) called Mission Earth.
It had it all sex, violence, um, sex and humor and sex. But besides that it drew me in and once I finished the first book (a 1000 pager) I devoured the 9 remaining books, I couldn't see it then but it's filled with a lot of political and religous overtures (I was in Jr. High at the time) and it really made light of our modern society. But once you get past the progranda it's one of the funniest, saddest and sickest Sci-Fi's I ever read and it had me rooting for the bad guy who narrated the first 9 books. But like all epics it ended a little ant-climatic (to me anyways, with the good guys always win in the end). I would love to see that turn into a Star-Wars type saga. Oh yeah sorry but Battlefield Earth sucked.
p.s. what about my childhood hood fave's being translated onto film?
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Good lord. This has got to be the sadded sight I have ver seen in all my days of Talk-Back lurking. Why? Where did all these lamers come from? Why do they get pleasure from what they do? Makes me f_cking mad...
Things to say.
The Story: So many people on this board seem to have fallen into taking this thing far more seriously that anyone ever intended. This movie isn't 2001, or Contact, or even Star Wars. It's a goofy, pulp-styled flick, based on a goofy, 1940s pulp-styled book, in which all the invading aliens have names like 'Terl', or 'Snit', or 'Zzt'. In which the hero beigns as a yokel hunter and winds up president of the Galaxy (oooops, spoilers :). In which the aliens tote around in hovering death ships, made out of nuclear-bomb-proof metal, and wield funky lazer guns that can do any damn thing you ask them to. Not exactly high art.
The Movie: It's based on a book. A F-I-C-T-I-O-N-A-L book, written B-E-F-O-R-E he founded Scientology. None of the characters are Scientologists. It contains no references to Scientology, or indeed any religion at all. There are no paralells between events in the book and the Scientology 'mythos' (despite what some claim... ScullyToo, it is grindingly, painfully, skull-crackingly obvious that you don't know a thing about the story.)
The Money: The film is being made by Warners. Not Scientology Studios. I don't know whether Mr. Hubbard is alive or not (seems to be a bit on confusion about it on the board...), but if he is, he will already have been paid and shoved out the door long ago. We wrote the basic story. That's all. The money goes to Warner Brother Studios Inc., not to Scientology. If I hear one more post in the mould of "Them eeevil Kooks ain't gettin none of my monee!", I will have to rip you heads open with my bare hands. Alright... :)
The Bullshit: That Scientologists take everything Hubbard wrote as 'scripture' (no, I'm not a scientologist. I live in Australia, and don't know shit about Scientology. But I know bullshit when I hear it). That the whole film is a recruiting ploy. That the story is an interpretation of Scientology dogma (how it could be, considering it was written first...??). That everyone who defends the movie is a brainwashed scientology plant (paronoia! reds under the bed!)
What is it with you Americans? Con't you be happy unless you've got someone to hate? (I know I'm the one indulging in sweeping generalisations now, but it had to be said.)
Oh, and for the rumour about subliminal messages -- anyone who even considered the possibility of that being true should immediately be taken out back and shot in the head, in order to prevent their genes from sullying future genrations. That means you, ScullyToo.
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Oh, and what I meant to say, when I first came here. That it doesn't look very promising in from what I've seen. That I'll reserve my judgent until I see a trailer or something. The hope that it could at be fun in a ballsy, Buckaroo Banzai / Godzilla kind of way.
That is all.
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"As far as the subliminals go...I wouldn't doubt it. Evidence has shown that subliminals don't really work unless you're already consciously thinking about it, but certain subliminals are illegal. If they think it works, they will try to put it in the movie." God but I love that quote. Because it makes absolutely no sense. After several re-readings, all I can discern is that Scientologists apparently want to seed the film with subliminal images, simply because doing so is illegal. In the name of all that's holy, I pray that ScullyToo is simply a good old fashioned troll, rather than an actual, thinking, breathing, human being. People like him/her are far more poisonous than any number of 'religious' kooks. ... On another note, I see that several more recent posts have actually restored some degree of sanity to the list. Phew. If anyone is still reading this far down...
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I hate it already.
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First off...to correct a few misconceptions...Battlefield Earth was written in the 70's long after the creation of Scientology which he created in the early 50's. In fact, Hubbard wrote this and Mission Earth while hiding in a desert compound after the FBI raided the church in Washington D.C and Los Angeles and uncovered enough evidence of criminal wrongdoing on the church's part to send Hubbard's wife and ten other top church officials to prison. Hubbard escaped arrest and let his wife take the fall for him but Hubbard never again let his face be seen in public, spending the remaining decade of his life running the church from that hidden compound. It was there that he resumed his career of writing really crappy sci-fi and this time he did blend in themes from Scientology. Not to bore you to tears but Scientology believes that many years ago we were enslaved by the Marcabian Confederacy. Through intergalactic wars we freed ourselves but the Marcabians are coming back to enslave us again at any moment and we must regain our "super powers" (OT abilities) to be ready to fight them off. Hubbard claimed we used to be like Q and able to control matter, energy, space and time but over the years we forgot how to travel in the blink of an eye and create objects with our thoughts. Scientology can teach you once again how to do these things...and we'd better do it fast or we're all lost to the Marcabians. As for BE, the Psychlos do indeed represent Psychiatrists who were Hubbards mortal enemies...at least in his mind. While I don't believe there are subliminals in the film, it is indeed meant as a recruiting lure for the church who will be able to introduce Hubbard's name to a new generation of kids who then later can be enticed to "read more about L. Ron Hubbard." The new paperback version of the book (published by the church) has a postcard the kids can use to send away for a free movie poster. The kids are then in the church's database. BTW, the movie was not financed by Warners but instead was made independantly by Travolta and his business manager then picked up for distribution by Warners who want to be in the Travolta Business bad enough to suffer the repercussions of this stinker film. Money from the toys and sales of the tie-in books do go to the church. Having said all this, after seeing the still of Terl's boots...I not only can't wait to see the film but I'm ready to pre-order the DVD!!!
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Apr 01, 2000 9:14:07 AM CST
Jah mon, couldya help me pick up my joint, im having problems be
by chromosomecowboy
god, even on the second day of looking at this silly alien and his boots, i still can find an amazing amount of humor without feeling pity. this is gonna be a classic film for all us people to sneak into (dont fund their mind-wiping Heavens Gate-like "religion") and laugh at the people who were fooled into thinking this was a flat-out real sci-fi flick. MST3K this one ASAP all you amateur Joels and Mike and or Crows or Tom Servos.
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Apr 01, 2000 9:23:04 AM CST
These boots are made for walkin'...and that's just what they'll
by mully4ever
This movie will be LAME.
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Oh, benwog--we were actually starting to get on an interesting roll and you had to bring up religion again! As it seems to be my domain to advise on some of the legal points here, let me correct some of YOUR crap, moronboy. B:E was written in the early eighties. Hubbard was never running from criminal charges as there never were any--and believe me, people tried to nail him plenty. From what I heard, they tried and tried, but couldn't even trump up any charges on Hubbard himself. And before we get onto the subject of my religion, I was wondering, if I switch from Earthlink to, say, AOL, so I don't give myself away, will people assume I'm Jewish or Muslim? And oh, here's a serious question from someone who actually enjoyed the book: Does anyone know WHERE in the storyline the film is supposed to break for "part one"? If there's gonna be two films?
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This movies gonna be the comedy SMASH of the summer! Vinnie Barbarino dressed like some reggae KISS reject! I Haven't seen anything this funny since Howard The Duck!
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I read the book. Its great. It remains Science Fiction without getting hi-tech and the book avoids all of Hubbard preachiness however the aliens looked nothing like that..that thing. They are supposed to have huge long talons and arched Kromagg-like foreheads. They are supposed to wear gas-masks because they cant breath oxygen. Instead in the movie they just wear little nasal plugs and to make him seem gigantic they just have him wearing big boots? Boots which actually dont make him look bigger just foolish. And did anyone catch that scene in the preview w/ Barry Pepper delivering that speech which is so obviously ripped off of Braveheart. The whole premise of this movie is the differences beetween the Aliens and the Humans. But in the film how can the Aliens hate the humans so much when they look exactly alike just with some added boots or leather.
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Apr 01, 2000 11:42:11 AM CST
HA HA HA HA HA HA A-HA HOO HOO HEE HEE HA HA! HA! HA! OH GOD PLE
by el duderino
This picture has to be fake. No seriously. Look at where his head is. Man, Travolta is really gonna fall off the deep end now. Mr. Travolta, if you thought you were at the bottom of your career with "Look Who's Talking Now," you obviously don't know how bad things can get. 90 million. Man. That's depressing. When's this come out again?
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Apr 01, 2000 12:02:58 PM CST
The Church of Scientology must have some serious dirt on Travolt
by dark knight lite
for him to spearhead a travesty like this. Every time I see a photo of him in costume, it gets even worse. I'm doing my best to maintain a serious tone here... but.... but... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....JESUS this sucks! This Warner release is so bad, it will make everyone forget about "Batman&Robin"... maybe even me.
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I'm gonna see this film, multiple times, tripping on some high grade acid. They'll have to tranquilize me cause I won't be able to stop laughing for days after each viewing.
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If the aliens don't look like that in the book, that means that somebody thought that design would be an improvement! I'd like to hear that marketing meeting- "Yeah, John, Baby, if we give you a big stupid nose, dreadlocks and platform shoes, that'll put butts in the seats! We can't lose!" And didn't anyone, at any point in the production of the film, break into giggling fits upon seeing that thing on set?
As for the Scientology controversy- I don't view these guys as enough of a threat, really. No movie can, all by its lonesome, change someone's spiritual beliefs. THE OMEGA CODE didn't manage it, somehow I doubt this will either. As for giving the church more money- it's not like it's already on the verge of bankruptcy, and if we don't see the film they'll vanish into oblivion. Frankly, I see this group as a trend, destined to gradually fade from the forefront of public consciousness. The celebrity adherents it already has will probably stay adherent to it for awhile (from what I hear they get an easier-on-the-ego form of the belief system), but I'm not confident in them getting a bunch of new members. -
One fact no one's brought up explicitly so far is, Earthlink is owned and operated by Scientologists. So if you're of the mind that Scientology exists to either a) enrich its members at your expense b) enshrine L. Ron Hubbard as Buddha-meets-Heinlein or c) take over the world, then their tactics and arguments must be questioned and analyzed vis a vis coming to an understanding of their real agenda. Finally, the only way Travolta gets away with those boots in the movie is if they change the character's name to "Spice Terl".
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What is the difference between Scientology and any other religion? NOTHING! They all want you to give money to the church and believe in things that don't exist. It's all mind-controlling crap.
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First of all, I am not a troll...I'm 5'8". :-) Seriously, I don't go trolling. But there are a lot of misconceptions that people are not aware of about this movie. And I intend to point them out so people can know the facts. Secondly, I didn't say that the Scns would put subliminals in just because they were illegal. What I meant was that, despite the proof that subliminals don't work, they will put them in the movie because they think that they DO work. They've been doing plain sight subliminals for years -- you think that volcano on the front cover of "Dianetics" is a coincidence? And to someone else's comment that thinks that Scientology will just fade away -- I wouldn't count on it unless David Miscaviage (the leader of the group) died or was arrested. Whichever came first. It's been around since 1953 If it were going to "fade away" it would have happened a long time ago.
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. . .I have to say, judging by both the picture posted in the article and some other's I've seen this *does* look like hell. I hope it's just a shot that hasn't been enhanced by CGI yet and will look much better on screen, otherwise this thing has even less potential then the BATTLESTAR GALACTICA flick Richard Hatch is working on. Typhoon's suggestion that this thing should have been a big-budget anime is right on the money. Oh, well, live and learn.
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But first: that costume sucks dead, bloated donkey dick. With that said... the discussion of scientology is inherently relevant to all of Hubbard's work. Let's face it, he's basically a sci-fi writer first, who started to believe his own lame-ass storylines (and if you don't believe me, consider that the Scientologist creation myth involves one of the Intergalactic Slave Lord Xenu's Slave Barges crashing into an earth volcano, resulting in an atomic explosion which allowed the enslaved "Thetans" on the ship to merge with ape-creatures native to the planet). Also, the Co$ is BIG on proselytizing -- perhaps Hubbard would have had the good sense to keep his assinine religion out of adaptations of his assinine books, but I seriously doubt modern day Scientologist officials have that kind of foresight. Just wait till it hits theaters. I remain confident that this will become apparent to everyone in short order.
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If you are really interested in this movie... I am going to decribe points in the book where they might choose to stop and if you really care, DONT READ THIS POST. Possible Spoilers...
I have been trying to think about where they would choose to stop this movie... and it seems to me that there are two different spots.
1) After Johny Goodboy Tyler gathers the Scot's and they begin mining the gold Terl found in the revene. Movie ends with them comming up with a plan to attack Terl.
2) Right after they blow up Psychlo using uranium coffins.
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There is NO WAY that this is a real pic. Man, it is funny as hell though. I laughed one of those deep belly-laughs for about 5 minutes looking at that pic. Good one, Harry! I can't believe no one else thinks this is fake! Look at the pic ... the boots look like they were added on. Shit it's funny though.
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That picture made me choke on my skittlebrau. Travolta certainly would love to return to his Disco heyday, but he's probably signing on to this tripe out of reverence for the creator of his religion, Dianetics. You've seen the tv commercials, now see the movie!
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Why didn't I hear about this earlier? Kiss Meets The Phantom of the Park will probably still be the definitive Kiss movie.
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Oh my gawd! That`s the worst piece of production design I`ve ever seen. That`s no alien, he`s a glam rock rasta! This movie has to be a comedy right?!
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Someone else on the board posted the link to a site with some more news and pics of the movie. There were some pics of toy fair with new Battlefield: Earth toy figures, and Terl is wearing those freaky, clunky boots just like John Travolta in the pic. Sorry.
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I'm really starting to think this is going to be a must-see. I laugh every time I see that damn suit! Can you imagine him running?!? His little arms would flail back and forth, and he'd keep tripping over those huge boots. I might not survive it! I WANT a pair of those boots!
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I would like to thank all who participated in this talkback for being so funny and entertaining. Please dont stop, next battelfield earth story i want you all back here slanging away its really funny to read.
I am proud that a fellow Aussie made the most intelligent level headed post of the lot.
As for the film I have only one thing to say. It is set in the year 3000 right? Then why does the trailer show harrier jump jets flying around???
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Now I have seen some bad-ass combat boots, but DAMN those are super bad-ass. How the hell can I get some???? I want to pretend that I am much taller than I really am too. How about some killer dreds too? Or is that tenis star Venus Williams under all that make-up?
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Apr 01, 2000 9:59:32 PM CST
B:E = Revenge of the Cross-dressing Leather-bound Rastafari
by chromosomecowboy
Third time around and this shit is still kickin my ass! God, if i only had a time machine, id go back to 1993 and say to Quentin Tarantino, "Hey man, Travolta is dead, career will go nowhere, how bout using Brian "Stone Cold" Bosworth instead?" Then we wouldnt be here talking about this or we could have Michael Jackson (also a noted scientologist) looking somewhat normal with the boots on and this movie may make a little more sense.
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Apr 01, 2000 10:44:31 PM CST
Wait, these guys ARE supposed to be 8 feet tall, right? So every
by el duderino
Okay, just look at that picture closely. Barry Pepper looks as tall or ever taller than Terl does. He's just slumped over. Something tells me that the pic has been changed around in some way. And for God's sake look at his head!! This has been doctored up seriously! I mean, we have come a long way since ED WOOD style filmmaking, I don't think the guy who did work on Star Wars is going to make the humans slump over every time to give the illusion the aliens are bigger. Oh yeah, the Adam Sandler Quentin Tarantino story is bogus. Don't believe it. That's the joke on the site.
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I hope there's some swinging "island" music in dis'...mon. We smoke da weed of wisdom later...mon. I've seen some other silly pictures of Forrest Whitaker done up in the same silly biker gear plus another female alien. They ride around on these stupid half-motorcycle
looking things. I LOVE SCI-FI but alas it will be another Mission To Mars mess.
I didn't have any hopes for this anyway. Good news is that Gladiator gets released May 5 and this shit May 12. If this IS a cool little Sci-Fi flick hidden in a lot of bad hype, I'll be fuckin' blown away. 0.002% chance of that happening. --Syd. -
Someone should send this pic to George Clinton. Those boots are uber-funkadelic! Man, do I want a pair. Whole solar systems would fall before me in those boots. I could wear those boots and a long purple cape with gold thread, with lots of gold chains. And a leather cowboy hat. Few could withstand the fearsome force of my funkification.
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I too read the book in Jr High, back when there was very little Sci Fi out. And for the first 400 or 500 pages I thought, "Hey this isn't bad". But ya know what? The DAMN THING REFUSED TO END!!!! Even as a 13 year old I remember thinking "What the $@%@# was he thinking?" How many "Endings" can a book have? And the REAL ending... give me a break. It had potential as a decent pulp Sci Fi book but then went overboard. I had to read Starship Troopers twice afterwards just to flush my system. As to the movie, I considered it a decent one to adapt IF THEY CUT OUT 75% of the crap in the book... especially if they just ended it after trashing the Psychlos the first time. But after reading the script reviews and seeing the trailer/pics... I have to see this. I am going to get 2 cut robot puppets, sit waaaay up front and to the left and have a hell of a time doing an MST3K of this laughable piece of junk. As to the the Co$, I'll worry about them when they start serving Kool-Aid outta vats, until then they are just another part of this wonderful country which keeps me in Yucks just by their existence.
Peace
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Okay, that picture has to be one of the funniest things I've ever seen. Not just on this website, but ANYWHERE. Travolta looks RIDICULOUS. This movie is going to flop so badly ... oh God, it'll be like Kevin Costner and "Waterworld" all over again. I guess the stars really do run Hollywood now if Travolta convinced them to make that philosophical charlatan's laughable book into a movie. The good news is that if John Travolta's career goes belly-up after this (don't doubt it, people; it's happened to him before) he can always play a live-action Jar Jar Binks in Episode II. C'mon, look at that picture and tell me you don't hear him saying, "Mesa Ja-Ja Binks! Mesa have no more career!"
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Well, here goes.
Whether or not the book is good is opinion, of course, and the connection to the You-Know-Who's is irrelevant to that. I've never read the thing, but most SFers I know says it reeks. Some few do indeed like it; a taste for bad science and broad opera seems to be the case. To each his/her own.
But as for the other stuff.
*** The movie publicity is based on a very false premise: that BE was a bestselling novel. EHHH, no. Well documented that the Hubbard books are bought en masse by you-know-who's (henceforth referred to as YKW's). Apparently the YKW's even created an organization last year (?)with the purpose of voting BE "best of all time" SF book, merely to get some pub set up before the movie. Why? 'Cause no SF audience would ever vote it such. ** There have been some reports that the YKW's have been behind the flick's production. Well, hell yes. Author Services Incorporated, holders of the copyrights to H.'s books, has gathered the financing and are certainly coordinating the pub. Fronts were used, but essentially the previous is true. No problem with that. They try to keep their ties with the YKW's quiet, but ASI is a "Sea Org" run company, which in turn reports to the YKW's top dog. They fib slightly about it, since the YKW's rep is pretty tarnished. Their goal, organization-wise, is to keep Hubbard's name in lights. No prob again, but they fibbed slightly until recently (the YKW's, not ASI) about the fact that revenue from the toys and other tie-ins were going directly to the YKW's coffers. Fundamental fibbing, about ties and money.
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I'm afraid Micheal Jackson is not, NOT a Scientologist. Lisa Marie and her mom most definitely are. Believe it, the Sci.'s really gave it a shot, but Micheal is strange, not terminally stupid.
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I said two posts ago:
"Books not-equal the movies from which they sprang."
Obviously should be: "Movies not-equal the books from which they sprang." If I'm going to rant a bit, I might as well get it right... -
"I was made for lovin' you, baby, You were made for loooovin' meeeee . . . and I can't get enough of you, baaby, CAN YOU GET ENOUGH OF MEEEEE?" Actually, John, yes I can. Hopefully, this film will put paid to any other Scientology-backed films. I agree with the guy who said this earlier: The battlefield of the future will be cult-crazed fanatics vs people who don't like being told what to think. Ol' painless and his seven rotating barrels of rotating 7.62mm death will be lining up with the latter. And then me and all my Thetans are going to have a house party right on top of L Ron Hubbards grave.
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I did not read all the comments but am I the only person who noticed that he's not even 9 feet tall! This looks like crap
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WTF???!!! That is just a fuckin' tall Klingon! I'm getting a vision... yes... I see the future now... This movie will be SHITE! Maybe I'm just cynical...
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I don't really care about Scientology or what their involvement here is (although from what I've heard I should be suspicious of "public" response to any related products) but I do care about sci-fi. Raised on Heinlein, Bester and Philip K. Dick and all that. There are so many science fiction novels out there that are truly brilliant, and they make THIS one into a movie? Laughable. The technology is out there to do some amazing shit, and they're wasting it on sci-fi-lite "Battlefield Earth". It won't get my money.
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Like the postman i will be watching this movie about two years from now and laughing my ass off!!!!!!!! Mark my words this will suck!!! The only question now is when does Travolta start exposeing himself to the laker girls????
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For some inof on the movie and to answer some of the Scientology questions, check out this article from the Washington Post:http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/style/A48280-1999Nov26.html
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Just because I'm interested in what will be his follow up to Face Off...or has he done a film since then?
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... in the movie TOMMY? I feel so ashamed. It's idiots like Travolta that give Scientologists a bad name.
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OK, I read this book when I was a young, naive adolescent, obsessed with everything scifi/fantasy. And this was also before I was aware of dianetic$ or $cientology. Well, I will just say that my "bullshit tolerance" must have been sky high then, because I wouldn't make it through the reader's digest version now. OK, now on to the movie. Tom Cruise has grown into a surprising and talented actor, so I will forgive his imbecilic association with the hubbard thugs. But come on ? This book is simply a tome sized Dianetic$ parable, and in starring in the movie, it is merely his tithe to the evil that is hubbard. I despise this organization, which is the greediest of all American money cults. I hope when they have their Waco, the ATF blares "Gimme some money" by Spinal Tap to drive them out of the flagship.
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In above post replace Tom Cruise with Travolta...I always subconsciously reverse the two...both actors I used to hate I guess. sorry....
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I'm last, and no one will read this, but I wanted to say I'm getting flashbacks of "Sasquatch" photo's. I respect those who've seen the trailer (marginally), but to go off about the Suckage Quotient of this movie from an unprocessed still photo is pretty asinine. I remember seeing video of a shot being filmed for "U.S. Marshalls" where Bob Downey Jr. ran down the street. It looked ludicrously amateur. Some guy running down a sidewalk - STUPID, no? Of course, throw in soundtrack, hand-held camera, and pacing and context, and the same shot becomes an at least kinda thrilling moment in an average Thriller. And, I'm sure we could pull stills from Star Wars, RaidersotLA, etc. that could all look just as stupid. Let's have an agenda against Money-grubbing Marketing Machines Mascarading as Cults, but let's ignore the movie. The over-zealous flames specifically aimed against this poor, innocent photo bely the low-self-esteem that motivates such attacks.
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I may be wrong here, but I think I remember reading that L. Ron created Scientology as part of a bet. He and a few of his writer friends (who are MUCH better writers, including R.A.Heinlein, who wrote "Stranger in a Strange Land") bet each other that each of them jcould write a book that could found a religion. Heinlein nearly succeeded and Hubbard, well, you know how that ended.
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I'm in the middle of a dreary, depressing day, but all it took was another look at that picture to bring a smile to my face. Can't wait for May 12th. I'm gonna get drunk, sneak in, and have a great laugh.
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I dunno about that picture you have posted, it looks pretty goofy. But I'll hold my judgement until I see the movie. If it's really bad, I'll just go and rent Battlestar Galactica.
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It doesn't have anything to do with "Battlefield:Earth" or Scientology, but I figured you've all read enough about cinematic crap, so it was time to dump a load of the REAL McCoy!!!
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bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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You see, what's going on here is John Travolta is trying to give that poor bastard one of those "personality tests" they push on people in front of the Scientology building over by Barnes & Noble. I bet there's some homeless skateboarders just off the screen.
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I don't care how many of you stand by your bullshit argument that with good lighting and cgi, etc. the movie will look good. I just went and looked in my behing the scenes book for episode I, and even the aliens in that didn't look quite so shitty. Besides, we have seen Travolta with the special effects (trailer) and it looked like shit. Listen to the trailer. Travolta's lines, especially that laugh, sound like shit. Look at the special effects. Shit compared to Episode I. I was thinking of not working at the movies this summer, but now I am just so I can go laugh at this movie for free. Maybe it would be worth paying to see the worst movie ever made....Well all I have to say about this movie is: SHIT.
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I've read somewhere in the net that the sequel has been already greenlit... is it right? The piece (sorry I don't remember where) also said that was because the Warner people were "very happy" with the final result...
BTW I made a promise so NEVER any of my money would go to any religious organization (even less something like scientology) so if I go to see these crap-looking, cheese-smelling piece of utter shit, I'll pay for another movie and then sneak in BE. I highly recommend this to everybody willing to see the movie without funding brainwashing. -
With what little decent-budget Sci-Fi stuff we get you should not be so quick to condemn -- unless you really _not_ a sci-fi fan at all. While I admit the photo is a little scary, it's looks like a polaroid taken early in the process for god knows what reason (I'm not a film expert). I for one agree with Moriarity. I'm going to see this sucker several times!
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Whoa! I have to say this site (on the subject of this movie)contains more hatred and pure venom, than any other I have seen. I think there is more going on here than just thoughts about a movie that hasn't even been seen yet, by anyone. You guys on both sides need to find the DEBATE 1B site and slug this religon thing out. Where no one else has to read this garbage. I for one resent anybody, despite which side of an arguement they're on, telling me what to think about something. I am perfectly capable of making up my own mind and I usually do, (except when my wife makes it up for me.) I was hoping to find some information on the Matrix 2 and 3 and instead found something akin to the Hatfields and McCoys. (For you yongsters those are famous fueding families.)Now to business... If you know where there is information about the Matrix sequels, please post something so I can go there and avoid this area in the future. Yes, I am an old f*rt, but man the Matrix still rocked my world. Just for the record I am not for or against a movie being made I know nothing about and haven't seen. I'll check the reviews after its out and then I'll make up my own mind whether to see it or not.
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That's the first shot from Battlefield Earth? The makers have either produced something that would make Blake's 7 look professional, or they have learnt a very hard lesson on why they should release DECENT pictures of their up and coming films. That shot looks like a Star Trek Klingon with a has wandered onto the set of the cheap 70s Planet of the Apes TV series.
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Good god, is ANYONE optimistic about this movie?? I have yet to see anything about this movie other than the few pictures I have seen and if you ask me, they should have kept this one under wraps! Gene Simmons with dreds?? I think that may be the case... just please, PLEASE, don't let Ace Frehley be in this too!!
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Isn't that a clip from Metalstorm, The Destruction of Jared-Syn?
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The caption should read: "Okay, okay! So the Highlander convention is in the next ballroom!. God you Trekkies are mean!"
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Anyone who thinks that the Co$ isn't seeing a piece of the action on this film is delusional. There can be no doubt (in my mind) that the Hubbard estate (and thus the church) is seeing something off the back end of this piece of $hit. So anyone who goes to see this film is just feeding money into a crooked, fascistic organization.
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Thanks everyone for supplying me a much-needed laugh riot. And I only read the headings!!! // Oh, and whoever said B.E. has nothing to do with Scientology -- yeah, and The Omega Code had nothing to do with fundamentalist Christianity, and Triumph of the Will had nothing to do with Nazism. (Not lumping the groups together -- I follow Jesus -- but it's all propaganda, folks, and I don't go to the movies to see propaganda.) L. Ron hated psychologists (the competition),and the villains in B.E. are called... get this... "the Psychlos." Oooooh, what could the connection be? Duke Ray out.
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After a quick pass, I can see that no one here knows any more about film making than they do Scientology.
Why resort to the sort of damnation you throw at each other though? Your lives are your punishment. But I must commend you. So utterly buffoonish are the lot of you that I feel compelled to step up for bi-valve worshipers and John "Third Come-back's a charm" Travolta.
But seriously, folks. (said with my best Harry "aw-shucks" posturing) I think the reason you are all so bitter is because each and every one of you was judged as harshly in high school.
Pay if you have to, but fuck someone soon. You'll be glad you did. -
eXcriMENt...I LOVE YOU!
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After reading through pages of mindless crap by a bunch of arm-chair critics who can hardly spell, let alone express a cogent thought, guess what??????
I'm STILL going to see the film.
And after plowing through enough wacky conspiracy theories about Scientology, Travolta, the Devil, Jesus, my mother, and whoever the hell else you can think up..., guess what?????
I still want to see this movie.
So, keep on yapping all you like, but I betcha this movie's going to do great, and I for one can't wait to get brainwashed by a
kick-ass Summer action flick. Better than turning out like some of you morons.
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What can I say? This look like so much fun to hand out XENU flyers in the parking lot and in the ticket lines. :)
E-mail me if you need flyers or URLs.
Xenu,
jWog
www.xenu.net -
What a bunch of hogwash is passing through this site ... yikes! I'm with Avilon on this one - someone positive - thank you! If this movie is brainwashing(possibly a little exagerations here ...),I'm all for it - I can't wait to see the movie and Travolta as an evil dude. I think he'll rock!
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Interesting...
All of the script reviews I've seen are quite positive. Tough job for such a monumental book.
Regarding the picture, as Donald Fagen sang in Pretzel Logic, "Where did you get those shoes?"
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Well here is a bad review for you. It's based on an Oct 98 version of the script. If the film hasn't changed much from this version then it will make M2M look like Einstien.
http://www.xenutv.com/us/review.htm
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