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Raven McCoy Had A Hulk Smashing Good Time With MARVEL'S THE AVENGERS!!

While I've generally liked all of the films in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, it wasn’t until we were hit with a double dose of Marvel movies last year that I really got excited for an Avengers movie. I’d seen both Hulk movies and they were okay. Nothing to get excited about it. The first IRON MAN was great up until the final act and IRON MAN 2 felt like it was trying too hard. But when I saw the majesty and awesomeness of THOR and the earnest heroics of CAPTAIN AMERICA (who quickly became my favorite Avenger) last summer, I couldn’t wait to see what it would be like to have all these strong, dynamic characters come together and defend our world.
These are people and demi-gods with such big personas and egos that they could barely fit inside a single movie, let alone a film with six other similar personalities. One of them would have to stand out among the rest. After all, they’re not used to working in teams. But never fear, for Joss Whedon has created a movie that masterfully juggles multiple strong characters, allowing each Avenger to have their moment in the spotlight, including those we haven’t really seen before, while also telling an exciting team adventure.
For this Marvel outing, Loki (Tom Hiddleston) has stolen the Tesseract, a super powerful energy cube, and plans to use it, along with an alien army, to take over Earth and enslave humanity. If he can’t rule Asgard then by Odin’s beard he’s going to rule Earth. With S.H.I.E.L.D. unable to defend against Loki on their own, Nick Fury (Samuel L. Jackson) enacts the Avengers Initiative to bring together a team of extraordinary individuals including Bruce Banner/The Hulk (Mark Ruffalo), Tony Stark/Iron Man (Robert Downey Jr.), Steve Rogers/Captain America (Chris Evans), and Thor (Chris Hemsworth), along with S.H.I.E.L.D. agents Agent Coulson (Clark Gregg), Natasha Romanoff/Black Widow (Scarlett Johansson) and Clint Barton/Hawkeye (Jeremy Renner) to defend the planet and defeat Loki.

It’s best to have seen the past movies before seeing MARVEL’S THE AVENGERS so you have a more established understanding of each character and their history. However Joss Whedon has crafted a film that works both as a sequel and a standalone picture. All the characters are given their (re)introductions but once the pleasantries are done with, it’s onto the story at hand. Each character continues to grow as they are given their own arc within the film. At the same time characters who were on the sidelines in past Marvel movies, like Agent Coulson, Black Widow and Hawkeye (if you count his minor cameo in THOR) are given beefier roles and become just as important as the big four. I was particularly taken by Black Widow because she proved to be one badass bitch. We got a tiny glimpse of her ass kicking in IRON MAN 2 but here you really get to see what a smart, beautiful and deadly woman she is and she’s given a vital role in the mission.
With so many big personalities they are bound to clash and that was the aspect I enjoyed most about the film. Seeing them in action and working together is great and all but it’s that initial adjustment and tension that exists amongst the group that was so interesting. These are people with a common goal yet they’re not used to dealing with such strong personalities or people of equal strength and power. They’re used to being the star player and it’s during these tense moments when they’re arguing and going up against each other’s egos that the actors really do their best work. As they bicker with similar minded characters they begin to recognize their flaws and in turn grow as individuals, adding another dimension to their characters. Captain America and Iron Man are the cattiest of the bunch and even though they’re constantly fighting they end up growing the most by the end of the film.
Once everyone gets over their egos and is onboard to work together, it is non-stop action and excitement. There are some great action sequences on the Helicarrier, which is the lovechild of a plane and a naval assault ship, and the entire final act is outstanding as the group duke it out with Loki and his army in the city.

Even though Whedon gives every character their moment in the spotlight, there is no denying that the standout member of the group is Bruce Banner, especially his transformation into the Hulk. Mark Ruffalo does a great job at playing Banner as a very calm person who hardly gets rattled but man, when he finally lets the Hulk come out, he is a BEAST!! Whedon’s version of Hulk is so much more powerful and destructive than past incarnations but he is also more likeable because of Ruffalo’s characterization of Banner. He’s not so much a character you pity because of his affliction but someone you just want to see go apeshit because if he’s that calm on the outside then he must me fucking LIVID inside and you’ve just got to see that other side.
As with the past two Marvel films, the 3D isn’t necessary. It’s only ever really noticeable in the beginning of the film and the last act. Everything in between doesn’t benefit from the 3D conversion and while the ending is spectacular, watching it in 3D doesn’t really improve it. Definitely save your money and see it in 2D.
Prior to MARVEL’S THE AVENGERS, CAPTAIN AMERICA was my favorite movie of the bunch, mainly because I believed in the hero so much. But now I’ve got to say THE AVENGERS just might be my favorite Marvel movie yet. It showed the best of each character, making me love them all even more, and was filled with plenty of great action sequences. I was cheering in my seat, laughing at their bickering, gripping the armrest in excitement and had a great movie going experience. I came out of that movie on a superhero high and there is no doubt in my mind we’ll get to see plenty more adventures with the Avengers after this fantastic outing.
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Meanwhile, there's a picture of The Lizard over at Den of Geek, and he's wearing the whit lab coat, like in the comics.
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Was the breakout star of this film, the audience went crazy for him when I saw it. Easily the best onscreen version of The Hulk so far.
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May 3, 2012, 3:41 a.m. CST
Great review, got me excited to see it again, this time in 2D.
by DidntPullOutInTimeCop
They really should shoot the movies in 3D if they want to sell them as 3D. 5/5 PullOutInTimePoints from me!
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...It would be great to see Banner / Hulk cameo in Iron Man 3, not to give too much away from the ending of Avengers, and start introducing more characters - Carol Danvers, Scott Lang, Henry Pym, Janet Van Dyne, Bethany Cabe, etc. etc.
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May 3, 2012, 3:47 a.m. CST
....Vision, Scarlett Witch, Quicksilver, Black Panther....
by Mike Holdbrook
Wonder Man, Hellcat, Jocasta....WAIT....ULTRON, Count Naferia, Taskmaster, Whirlwind...The list is endless. Disney and Marvel must be laughing their arses off. Fuck JLA!
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One, thing I realised whilst watching this movie, is that they could go anywhere with the Avengers series from now on. I'd like to see them attempt the Kree / Skrull war. I just wish Marvel could wrestle back some of their other properties like Daredevil, X-Men, Fantastic Four - hell imagine what Galactus could be like in this new Avengers universe.
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May 3, 2012, 4:11 a.m. CST
Saw a sneak preview, ir's safe to say that it is the BEST superhero movie ever!!
by technosnob
Nuff said!
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Shhh... see it in 3D anyway. It's one of the better conversions. I HATE the idea of conversions, but they did a pretty good job, kept it subtle most of the time. If you really want to save money, cool. But come on.... it's the best way to see it. There are a few moments that truly are transformed by being in 3D. Sure, it's still a great film without it. Citizen Kane is great with the sound off. But why?
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I agree though. If they want to use 3D, shoot in 3D. STOP with the conversions!!!
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First, don't be afraid to copy the Avengers format. They meet, beat the shit out of each other and eventually team up to stop Darkseid. Second, Batman should be the one to gather them together, all the while studying them and gathering DNA samples for the time when he'll need to take them down himself.
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They don't fight each other, because they're up against an enemy who'll destroy the entire world in Darkseid. There's no time for egos - Darkseid's declared war on Metropolis, Gotham, Coast City, Central City, Atlantis AND Themyscira. He's pitted his underlings (who are characters, not cannon fodder) all over Earth. You have the JL saving their cities, before Earth is transformed into New Apokolips... and then they work together to kick Darkseid's ass. By not copying the 'they're not friends' rhetoric of The Avengers, you show that DC's strength is heroes who ARE friends and fight giant monsters while the public goes 'yay.'
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May 3, 2012, 5:53 a.m. CST
Well if Avengers 2 uses Thanos as the big bad, that pretty much rules out Darkseid in ant possible JLA movie
by mdk
We know better, but the rubes and the critics will call foul for "copying".
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May 3, 2012, 5:56 a.m. CST
So if they hurry up with their JLA film and use Darkseid
by DidntPullOutInTimeCop
they could mess up the Avengers sequel? Maybe that's the excuse they need to finally get it going!
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May 3, 2012, 6:24 a.m. CST
LOL The lizard picture has actually made me want to see the movie now
by my liege
Looks a million times better in the lab coat. Hope it's not just the one shot and then he discards it.
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May 3, 2012, 6:24 a.m. CST
I never thought I'd be advicing to go 3D instead 2D but Whedon has done it.
by Jack
Go 3D all the fuckin' way, folks.
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Not one of his more interesting reviews, but in a few spots he seems to actually be "getting" the super-hero genre, finally. A little, anyway. And I agree with McCoy that HULK steals the show!
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I think I'm looking forward to this as much - if not more - than when The Phantom Menace came out. Perhaps even more because instead of kids and racist aliens, this movie is going to feature Scarlett Johansson in a tight leather outfit and Gods and Monsters teaming up to kick ass.
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I've said it here before, but I think that comparing The Avengers with Star Wars - the original trilogy - it's more than fair. We're witnesssing the birth of this generation's Star Wars. No matter how fired up you are, nothing will make you ready for this. I'm excited for the people that will be at the midnight screenings tonight. You'll have the time of your lives, mates!
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May 3, 2012, 6:45 a.m. CST
Everyone seems to be really impressed how Whedon gave every character good screen time ....
by Dalius
and then everyone wants more characters added for Avengers 2. Can't have it both ways people. (Well, unless the movie is like 4 hours long, and unfortunately, that's not going to happen.)
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I agree, Whedon got all the characters spot on. I'm surprised no one has picked up on *SPOILER* Harry Dean Stanton's cameo. Another good Hulk moment. Another thing, i was hoping War Machine was gonna turn up & at least 3 characters from previous movies were gonna escape from *SPOILER* Project Pegasus wen it..... Avengers 2 has got to be bigger...Kree / Skrull war...HELL YEH! Warlock & Captain Marvel in the mix. Would be awesome. & Whedon has got to stay on board.
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Why does anyone still care what this flesh pile think? Especially in the Internet age? This guy loves some of the most hateful films ever made, and dumps on some of the best. He's a reviewer for soccer moms in the checkout line, a throwback to the 20th century.
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May 3, 2012, 7:25 a.m. CST
By the time anyone readers these spoiler reviews they will have vanished from AICN.
by cookylamoo
Except for Harry's.
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May 3, 2012, 7:31 a.m. CST
"I came out of that movie on a superhero high and there is no doubt in my mind we’ll get to see plenty more adventures with the Avengers after this fantastic outing."
by P
=And that's all from Trite Hackley of the Hollywood Beat Network! Back to you in the studio, Chris!= =Wow, Trite. That sounds like the best Superhero movie YET!= =It was, Chris. Downey was really on his GAME! Whedon delivered the GOODS!= =Will it leave audiences cheering?= =You KNOW it Chris.= (wink)
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May 3, 2012, 7:49 a.m. CST
And remember that there are two post credit scenes now.....
by harryknowlesnothingaboutfilm
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Need to fit in Ultron or maybe MODOK/Red Skull/HYDRA/AIM team up first.
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Saw it when it came out in SA on the 26/04/12. It was truly awesome. The Hulk really is the breakout character in the movie. I don't want to spoil anything for those in the States that haven't seen it but the Hulk kicks ass and for once, you can see he really enjoys it. There are 2 scenes of his that stand out (and if you've seen the movie, you'll know what I'm talking about. One with Thor and one with Loki) The movie was brillaint and I'm an avowed Nolan fan....go figure
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May 3, 2012, 8:19 a.m. CST
We may have bad teeth and shit weather in the UK but I have seen this twice now. awsome stuff.
by harryknowlesnothingaboutfilm
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Um, no. Methinks Iron Man is pretty successful the whole way through.
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Man, the months leading up to finally seeing this movie feel like they were bathed in sludge. Tomorrow night will feel like Christmas morning. Putting the kids to bed, then going out with longtime friends to see it in IMAX. Tickets ordered. Check. Gas in car? Check. Expectations in check? Nope.
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May 3, 2012, 9:10 a.m. CST
Strange how you only have two types of review of this movie; the ones that are actual reviews that bring to light the flaws and these gushing, love, love, love, one's. I've seen it & i know which type of reviews i trust.
by cameron
It's a good movie, but way short of great. Badly edited, badly paced, poor 3D transfer, non existent plot - loki comes to earth, loki pokes people with his glow stick & takes over their minds, loki steals a blue cube, everyone chases loki, a bad cgi army of lizard men appear at the end, everyone fights - the end. But it is funny in parts - sometimes the humour is a bit misplaced, nyc is getting blown to bits, people are too, all the while we get the usual whedon quips - the hulk scenes are funny. cgi is average, no where near the levels of last years transformers (i hate the transformers movies but i must admit the sfx people earn their money) or 2009 avatar. Loud, crass, simplistic, funny, is the best description i have. If you like the other marvel movies in this franchise you'll like this, but it's been a week since i saw it and apart from the odd scene with hulk i'm having trouble remembering anything about the movie. Iron Man 1 is still marvels best in this series but the avengers is better than the others, i'd give it 7/10 for effort and 5/10 for content.
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Are there really two stingers now? Don't have me sitting in an empty theater at 3 Am for nothing, now.
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May 3, 2012, 9:26 a.m. CST
I haven't heard anything yet suggesting there is an exclusive post-credits scene for the American release.
by hank henshaw
My guess is that if they really filmed a new scene 2 weeks ago, it was for the Blu-Ray release.
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There's no way the current Batman/Superman/GL lantern universes can co-exist. Everything would need rebooting... I guess that'll start with Superman...post Nolan Batman will definitely have to be "lighter"
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May 3, 2012, 9:52 a.m. CST
Everything rides on Synders Superman. Since it's a fresh take, this could be WB's "Iron Man."
by P
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Game changer people.
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I usually don't go in for bashing innocent, well-meaning articles, but that was too funny and spot on to not be acknowledged. Cheers, zombie_fatigue. Why does anyone still read Ebert? Because even his most dick-headed writing is more intellectually interesting than 98% of the articles on AICN. Again, I don't mean to bash anyone for trying as long as they aren't being pompous douchebags and the writing is not written in "Harryspeak". But a little more creativity and style never hurt anyone.
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May 3, 2012, 10:16 a.m. CST
This isn't the best super heroe movie made. Stop hyping it so much.
by vetepalapinga
Don't give us your opinion if you haven't actually seen it. It's good, not a dull moment, but I didn't blow me away. I liked the character interaction but the villains/plot was paper thin. I wouldn't even call it a plot- it call it an excuse to have the heroes work together. It's not even the best Marvel movie made. Iron Man was better.
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May 3, 2012, 10:21 a.m. CST
This movie is not a game changer either. Have you actually seen the movie?
by vetepalapinga
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It's a game changer as far as comic book movies go.
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May 3, 2012, 10:27 a.m. CST
why? What do comic book movies have to do from this point on?
by vetepalapinga
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May 3, 2012, 10:35 a.m. CST
@zombie_fatigue, I find that shit depressing, JLA's fate depending on Hack Snyder
by hank henshaw
Man of Steel is going to look so bad after The Avengers. Forcing Superman to be something he is not: "Edgy, gritty, real". Man of Steel should have been directed by Brad Bird. Of course that was always out of the question thanks to Warner sabotaging The Iron Giant.
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May 3, 2012, 11:01 a.m. CST
claireredfield, I admit that was a bit snarky on my part. But a lot of these contributors don't even realize that they have internalized the superficial vernacular of marketing.
by P
Many have gotten so caught up in being movie consumers that they have lost their ability, or desire, to be movie viewers. That distinction may be lost on younger readers so I don't expect everyone to know what I'm getting at.
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I've kind of been wondering if Cap's old girlfriend got together with Stark Sr. after Cap 'died.' Stark definitely had a thing for her. If it ended up being that she was Tony's mother, I think that would add an interesting layer to the story.
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May 3, 2012, 11:18 a.m. CST
Getting ready to head to the theatre for the Mavel Movie Marathon.
by elgato73
This is my first marathon viewing in a number of years and I hope the fuck I don't pass out while The Avengers is playing.
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May 3, 2012, 11:19 a.m. CST
If TDKR makes a shit ton of money (as much as Avengers) then DC is going to be in an interesting predicament for Justice League...
by thecomedian
Yes, Justice League does ride on how Man of Steel does BUT, if TDKR is a monster hit then the WB execs will probably want to do a "Dark" Justice League film to stand in stark contrast(pun intended) with Avengers. It's kinda lousy that Nolan and Bale have sourpussed themselves into a corner. Having their Batman in a Justice League film would take nothing away from everything they've done with these three films if it were done smart. I have no doubt Man of Steel will deliver on action and eye candy but I hope Snyder can really get the story elements right this time. He seems like he's only as good as the talent he has to work with. Either way, dude has an extra year pretty much. There's no excuse for Man of Steel to not be awesome. I'd also say WB should go ahead and do that Green Lantern sequel either with a new Hal or just find a way to tone down Ryan Reynolds' Ryan Reynoldsness.
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May 3, 2012, 11:28 a.m. CST
To get the universe started a WWII or Cold War JSA movie would be nice.
by whatevillurks
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May 3, 2012, 11:35 a.m. CST
Wow. Am I the only one who got a vaguely gay vibe from Stark Sr.?
by ClaireRedfield
I haven't seen "Captain America" in a while, so I can't site specific details, but I remember thinking "This guy is totally in the closet." for some reason. I have notoriously poor gaydar, and I'm totally willing to admit I might be wrong, but there was something weird about that character.
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Some stuff I would tweek(need more howling commandoes, show Cap's battlefield compassion, and provide some dates)but I was satisfied.
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yeah and nick fury's gay too coz you know he totally dresses like a pirate.
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seriously? so captain america was worse than what? twilight? epic movie? any uwe boll movie? gimme a break.
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Tell you what: I'll watch it again and have some solid evidence to support my assertion next time it comes up in a talkback. Which is likely never, but still...
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they killed off capt america at the very end, though he is a very dull character....wait did i spoil it for you all, oh well, yeah capt america DIES!!!!
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Thor and Loki aren't demigods. Neither of their birth parents are human.
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May 3, 2012, 12:11 p.m. CST
I thought Captain America was a fun, breezy saturday matinee style movie. It embraced its inherent corniness without being overtly camp. Of all the Marvel movies, I think it was the trickiest to pull off in terms of tone and Johnson did a good job with it
by P
20 years ago, Thor would have been tricky to pull off tone-wise as well, but thanks to an overload of fantasy via video games, movies, etc, audiences are more open to that stuff.
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May 3, 2012, 12:15 p.m. CST
All these reviews say exactly the same things - what's the point?
by atlatl
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goes through the roof every time I see a screenshot. Just a screenshot!
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May 3, 2012, 1 p.m. CST
For me flawed but still way better than I had any right to expect *spoilers beyond*...
by steve lee
...Hulk using Loki as makeshift nunchuks, slam-crump-slam-booooosh!, squeeking hands trying to get the plane open, Thor awaiting the arrival of Mjolnir, head-butting IM, Iron Man's armour getting chundered up in the fan and Centurions moment, Caps flying monkey comment and 40's dress-sense...I could go on about the little touches like this! For me these scenes made it for me, yes the final battle was quite underwhelming, needed far more tension, but it was the dynamic between the Avengers that everyone erupted at in the theatre! I've never been witness to such glee in an audience like that before, that should tell you all you need to know, you gotta be a joyless mo-fo if you didn't take at least a few scenes away from it! Hopefully the DVD will put bits back, I hear IM and Cap chats are gonna be expanded on at least. 8/10 for me, super-solid!
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It's made of Vibranium, remember kids? It absorbs and reflects impact! (Plus it's not real)
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May 3, 2012, 1:24 p.m. CST
I got as much love for Iron Man as anyone but ya gotta admit...
by steve lee
...the second act and final battle could have been stronger. My comic-movie top five reads: 1.BatMan Begins 2.Avengers 3.Iron Man 4.X2 5.TDK (If only for the mangler, fuckin' love that gadget) (Subject to change on an hourly basis, natch!) Additionally, why do people gang-rape IM 2? Sure Stark rambles here and there but it's a perfectly serviceable flik, if you are a hater, please enlighten as to why it's so shite. Just curious. Thanx.
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It shows that comic book movies can embrace their own over the top ridiculous universes and still come out on top. It's fun, it's fresh, the action is well directed (no shitty shaky cam!!). It's a blockbuster experience on par with iconic movies like Raiders, Star Wars and Die Hard. The genre will be defined by movies pre and post Avengers. That's why it's a game changer.
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People are gonna make fun of you after the movie opens in the U.S.
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May 3, 2012, 1:53 p.m. CST
Anyone elso notice that Loki is wearing a rubber car-footmat over his shoulders?
by steve lee
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I see no reason why it would be any different there?
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It seems like Robert Downey Jr. wasn't just yanking our chain when he said that the cast of "The Avengers" was going to shoot an extra scene in the movie following the world premiere. And Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige also wasn't really off the mark when he teased that "it's been blown out of proportion." There is a second post-credits moment, and it's not what any of us might have expected. We won't get into spoilers above the jump, but Movies.com writer Christopher Campbell confirmed via Twitter yesterday that the screening of "The Avengers" he attended included the second post-credits scene. "Feel bad for any critics who didn't get the second bonus scene at the end of Avengers," he tweeted. "Moviegoers, stay all the way through this weekend!" Now we're getting into spoiler territory, so readers be warned! If the first post-credits scene sets up where the plot of future Marvel movies will go from here, the second one shows us the future of the relationship between the Avengers. In the film, there's a funny moment towards the end of the final battle sequence where Iron Man asks if they can all get shawarma after they're done. Well, it turns out they do. The film's new post-credits scene doesn't contain any dialogue, but shows the entire team sitting down and eating shawarma. According to what Campbell told ComicBookMovie.com, it's roughly about a minute long and Mark Ruffalo seems like he's struggling to keep a straight face throughout the scene. There's been an image circulating the Internet that confirms this. What a great way to round out what's already a fantastic movie! This scene seems like it totally ties together the friendships created in "The Avengers," and is a very Joss Whedon-touch to add. Plus, we can't wait to see the Avengers fully in costume eating at a shawarma joint. Superheroes need to eat too, you know.
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May 3, 2012, 3:24 p.m. CST
That sounds delightful, I'm happy for my U.S. bredren! Enjoy!
by steve lee
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Go see it in 2D if at all possible, for a great majority of scenes in the "3D" version, you can just flip your glasses up and see the same damn thing. The 3D tint also somewhat hurts your ability to see what's going on during the action scene set at night.
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May 3, 2012, 4:05 p.m. CST
I'm saying it because the lion's share of TBers are from the U.S.
by vetepalapinga
Everything you posted about Avengers being a game changer is flat out wrong. Let's see what you stated: =It shows that comic book movies can embrace their own over the top ridiculous universes and still come out on top.= That's been going on since Superman The Movie, my friend. =It's fun, it's fresh, the action is well directed (no shitty shaky cam!!).= That's true, but then again that could be said about a shit load of movies that came before. =It's a blockbuster experience on par with iconic movies like Raiders, Star Wars and Die Hard.= Whoa, you can't be serious. What I don't get is why you want to take a good movie and overrate it to the Nth degree. You're really doing a disservice to the people who haven't seen it.
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Took me a while to work out the "squeaky hands trying to open the plane" but I got there. Add to that the ejection, sweet. Something that gave me a huge grin tho was.......Iron Man and Cap's COMBO move thingy, that was perfection
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therefore it's not a valid review.
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tooforoo?
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May 4, 2012, 4:13 a.m. CST
attackingclone: Yeah, so many great moments! Like many are saying...
by steve lee
...it's gonna be kinda rough to go back to single hero movies, they'll have to load them with cameos and team-ups I think, you notice that save for perhaps Stark, these heroes will struggle to cut it to make it interesting on their own, IMO much better in the team dynamic, they don't outstay their welcome with relatively 1D characterization.
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May 4, 2012, 4:18 a.m. CST
attackingclone: It shames me to say I don't really remember Cap and IM's tag move..
by steve lee
...what was the manoeuvre again?
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SPOILER When they are fighting on the bridge together against the Chit....aliens... Iron Man firing his hand laser things into Caps shield and getting a huge beam of energy reflecting off it into aliens. Wasn't huge and in your face on screen but it's there and sweet as
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May 4, 2012, 8:42 a.m. CST
attackingclone: Ahhh,ok. Missed that completely, will look out for it next time...
by steve lee
...it's like Airplane, you see something new with each viewing, ha!
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Its beacuse the hulk is once agian played by lou ferrigno so yeah its awsomness!
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May 6, 2012, 9:49 a.m. CST
I will so one of the Best 3D conversions. But the movie was freaking AMAZING!
by Wcwlkr
I usually don't watch the 3D movies because they hardly seem worth it, but this was actually a really good conversion & the movie was FREAKING GORGEOUS! Pardon my language but FUCK the haters that claimed this thing looked made for TV you're WAY WAY WAY off base.
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