Movie News

Dave Grohl can rock like none other, but can he direct?

Published at: May 1, 2012, 4:49 p.m. CST by Muldoon

Hello ladies and gentlemen, Muldoon here with an interesting tidbit of news. Foo Fighters frontman and Nirvana drummer Dave Grohl is stepping off the stage to get his hands dirty in a new documentary he's directing and producing about Sound City Studios - a major player in the recording world. Grohl and the rest of the Foo Fighters starred front and center in FOO FIGHTERS: BACK & FORTH a year ago, so I can only assume that project lit some sort of fuse in the guy. Seems like an interesting project that's obviously pretty close to the guy's heart - I'll certainly be checking it out, how about you folks?

Check out the press release:

 (May 1, 2012, Los Angeles, CA) – Confirming widely circulated rumors, Dave Grohl of Foo Fighters and Nirvana announced today that he will direct and produce a feature Documentary film, SOUND CITY about the infamous recording studio in Van Nuys, California. The film was conceived by Grohl after purchasing the legendary Neve 8028 recording console from Sound City Studios last year. The console, built in 1972, is considered by many to be the crown jewel of analog recording equipment, having recorded such artists as Neil Young, Fleetwood Mac, Tom Petty, Cheap Trick, Guns and Roses, Fear, Nirvana, Rage Against the Machine, Slipknot, Nine Inch Nails, Metallica, and countless other musical legends over the past 40 years. 

Through interviews with the artists and producers that created decades of musical history at Sound City, the film will showcase the amazing history of the studio, focus on the albums recorded there that went on to change the world, discuss the human element of music in an age of technology, and feature performances from many of the artists that called it "home".

Grohl's personal connection to Sound City began with the 1991 recording of Nirvana's breakthrough album, "Nevermind". Selling over 30 million copies worldwide, “Nevermind” changed the entire musical landscape and forever altered the course of Dave Grohl's life.

Roswell Films, a division of the Roswell Records label that releases Foo Fighters music, will distribute the film. Key personnel involved with the film include Producer/Director Dave Grohl; Editor Paul Crowder (Dogtown & Z Boys, Once In a Lifetime, Riding Giants); and Writer Mark Monroe (The Cove, Once In a Lifetime, The Tillman Story). The film is also being produced in conjunction with Jim Rota, John Ramsay, and Therapy studios.

Speaking to both the art of music and the art of filmmaking, Grohl crafted the letter below to share his vision for the film. Information and future announcements related to the film can be found at www.soundcitymovie.com

 

  

- Mike McCutchen

"Muldoon"

Mike@aintitcool.com

  

Readers Talkback

comments powered by Disqus
    + Expand All
  • May 1, 2012, 4:53 p.m. CST

    First?

    by dcut75

  • May 1, 2012, 4:54 p.m. CST

    Very cool.

    by Dharma4

    Fuck off about being first, already. -Namaste-

  • May 1, 2012, 4:54 p.m. CST

    Grohl is awesome.

    by Cletus Van Damme

  • May 1, 2012, 4:55 p.m. CST

    Sorry Dharn

    by dcut75

  • May 1, 2012, 4:55 p.m. CST

    dharma...

    by dcut75

    First time I got the chance, couldn't resist

  • May 1, 2012, 5:24 p.m. CST

    Ghrol sucks. No Cobain suicide = no Ghrol career post-Nirvana

    by smudgewhat

    Name me one Grohl song with a memorable hook. I can name you 5 Nirvana off the top of my head and I don't even LIKE Nirvana.

  • May 1, 2012, 5:35 p.m. CST

    He directed 'My Hero' and 'All My Life'...

    by Can_I_Get_Any_Of_You_Cunts_A_Drink

    And 'My Hero' was an impressive single take. I've got faith that the motherfucker can pull it off.

  • May 1, 2012, 5:45 p.m. CST

    by choptop

    Name one? Everlong, Learn to Fly, Monkey Wrench, My Hero, Best of You, These Days, Walk. You fucking troll. Shut the fuck up and name me some Barry Manilow hooks.

  • May 1, 2012, 5:58 p.m. CST

    smudgewhat - The Five

    by Mako

    The Pretender Everlong Learning To Fly The Last Song I'll Stick Around Cobain = dark & depressed suicidal junkie with talent Grohl = fun & bad ass rock n' roll god with talent Nirvana had "1" great album and several "ok" albums. Foo Fighters have had "1" great album and the rest are "very good" albums. They have yet to make just an "ok" album.

  • May 1, 2012, 6:06 p.m. CST

    When it's all said and done...

    by WarrenSmooth

    Kurt Cobain will be the Brian Jones to David Grohl's Keith Richards. How many kids these days even know who Brian Jones was?

  • those guys actually have original chops and serious hooks.

  • May 1, 2012, 6:08 p.m. CST

    warrensmooth

    by tom

    Is Krist Novoselic Mick Jagger then? What in the FUCK?

  • May 1, 2012, 6:09 p.m. CST

    With all due respect

    by Jaymie69

    The last thing Ghrol did that was the least bit interesting was In Utero

  • May 1, 2012, 6:09 p.m. CST

    smudgewhat = Dave Troll

    by schadenfreudian

    move along, nothing to see here...

  • May 1, 2012, 6:12 p.m. CST

    Dave Grohl can rock like no other?...

    by jimmy_009

    ...had to roll my eyes at this one.

  • May 1, 2012, 6:24 p.m. CST

    Grohl is best on drums

    by shalashaska

    Them Crooked Vultures are pretty fucking awesome

  • Dude. That's what he does. He gets shit for the fact that he puts such easy/pop sounding hooks in his songs.

  • May 1, 2012, 6:44 p.m. CST

    Ghrol's been directing Foo videos since forever, he's fine.

    by Tall_Boy6t6

    Also Foo Fighters are awesome, & put Colour & the Shape beside any Nirvana album and it'll stand up. Yes, the album is that good.

  • May 1, 2012, 6:55 p.m. CST

    smudgewhat, you obviously haven't heard ANY of Wasting Light

    by Stifler's Mom

    best album of the year, period, in any genre/

  • May 1, 2012, 7:05 p.m. CST

    Grohl > Nobrain

    by MegaBeth

    Nobrain could barely play guitar. He was a fucked up junkie loser who wrote three good songs. Fuck him. Dave Grohl will be the one people remembers in 30 years.

  • Seriously, they're big enough to be the superbowl halftime show.

  • May 1, 2012, 7:24 p.m. CST

    Hard not to be excited about this.

    by jgrantt18

    Grohl is one of the more talented people working in music today. People may say he's nothing in comparison to Kurt Cobain but I don't see the point in comparing the two. Taylor Hawkins said it best: Kurt was a tortured artist, Grohl is a master craftsman. I'm sure this will be a great, entertaining documentary.

  • Nirvana cast a HUGE shadow that I think he has long gotten out from. Plus this doc sounds like a winner to me.

  • May 1, 2012, 7:42 p.m. CST

    Dave is the man!

    by pumaman

    Check out Dave on drums in the 'supergroup ' 'Them Crooked Vultures ' on Youtube. He's a friggin genius, and I LOVE the Foo's. He can write a killer hook that guy. Great songwriter and an incredible musician that not only plays the shit out of drums, but is a great guitarist and an underrated and gifted singer. 'Back and Forth' was a wonderful and funny sometimes moving documentary about the bands history.

  • May 1, 2012, 7:44 p.m. CST

    Sounds like it SHOULD be epic . . .

    by Nice Marmot

    But Dave & the Foos can't rock the house like Clutch does. Pure rock fury . . .

  • May 1, 2012, 7:49 p.m. CST

    Oh great...

    by Nice Marmot

    ...AICN dork backers don't like Nirvana AND Grohl's post-Nirvana work??? Gimme a break...

  • May 1, 2012, 8:32 p.m. CST

    I love Rap and R&B, and the occasional odd song.

    by Norman Colson

    And damn that "My hero" song was fucking catchy as fuck!!!! lmao.

  • May 1, 2012, 9:14 p.m. CST

    I loved Cobain but Grohl is more talented.

    by SlickyVonBoner

    He's a great guitar player /drummer/ songwriter and I'll dare to say it... a better singer than Cobain.

  • May 1, 2012, 9:19 p.m. CST

    Nirvana > Foo Fighters

    by Rick Webb

    Grohl is such a sick drummer. I never really got into Foo Fighters, although I do like a couple of their songs.

  • May 1, 2012, 9:27 p.m. CST

    @slickyvonboner I'll dare say it. . .

    by ghosttomost

    dave is a better singer than kurt. nirvana was a once in a life time, right place at the right time event. if it had been up to kurt, they would have made a hundred more records just like "bleach", and noone would have ever heard of them. to be honest, Butch Vig made nirvana popular. or you could argue that dave grohl made them popular, seeing how the first album he played on was when they blew up. regardless, even kurt himself said dave grohl could write one hell of a pop song. dave grohl is pure rock and roll. just ask Lemmy. period.

  • and not fucking suck like Nickelback.

  • May 1, 2012, 9:46 p.m. CST

    Nice Marmot!

    by SwollenGoat

    You have said it all, my friend. C!

  • May 1, 2012, 9:48 p.m. CST

    Plus their videos are a special kindof geeky cool

    by proevad

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBG7P-K-r1Y&feature=relmfu

  • May 1, 2012, 9:48 p.m. CST

    This is how it is...

    by SwollenGoat

    The Foo Fighters are the best mainstream rock band. Clutch is the greatest band in the universe. That's it. That's all.

  • May 1, 2012, 10:19 p.m. CST

    WASTING LIGHT - the Foos at their finest

    by Roger Moon

    that album is great from the first song to the last.

  • May 1, 2012, 10:30 p.m. CST

    Grohl is more talented than Cobain.

    by Stifler's Mom

    Kurt was an innovator and an icon, but his songs weren't especially complex. And Nirvana made some great music, but for sheet musical ability, give Dave a guitar or a drum kit and he blows Kurt away.

  • May 1, 2012, 10:34 p.m. CST

    Radiohead is the best band in my universe

    by proevad

    Clutch can visit if they like, but they can't stay.

  • They win hands down.

  • I don't know how the almighty Clutch got into this talkback, but that's never a bad thing.

  • too bad i stopped giving a shit about rock and roll about 6-7 years ago. and this is coming from a person who made a living being in touring rock band. (flame me all you want, but EDM is where it's at.)

  • May 1, 2012, 11:53 p.m. CST

    "Can he direct?"

    by DukieMichaelNamondRandy

    Most likely the answer is "Yes". His Foo videos were pretty good, and he's confident and smart, so he could probably pull of a really good movie.

  • May 1, 2012, 11:59 p.m. CST

    Foo fighters are

    by BERSERKR

    Extremley generic boring as fuck modern rock.

  • Grohl plays everything and he plays everything well. Writes better lyrics too, imo (although clearly they write/wrote about totally different subject matter). Their voices are pretty much on par, though, because Kurt could have sung the way Dave does if he wanted to. He chose to scream his throat out instead. <p> However, even with the enormous success of Foo Fighters, Nirvana will always be remembered as the more "important" band. The band that had the bigger cultural impact. The band that, truthfully, for better or worse, changed rock music. There is rock music before Nirvana and there is rock music after Nirvana. And really, if you check out a lot of Kurt's influences, he was stealing, or at least borrowing heavily, from them. Doesn't matter. "Smells Like Teen Spirit" and his eventual suicide cemented his legacy.

  • May 2, 2012, 2:37 a.m. CST

    Cobain's death circumstances Totally suspect yet...

    by even9

    Official story had a hook as catchy as his at times unique songwriting talent for eveyone involved...apart from stangers to the whole scene in diggin/piecing together what ta circumstances were - all that glitters not being gold situation. Cobain had the type of talent & carelessness that gets one killed, basically was a sincere screw up & success but who's music has become totally mis-percieved & blown out of proportion by hype & post-humuous suppositions. Too much hype, success & drugs, but Cobain was the ultimate 'slacker' rock star & if you forget about the myths, & minus a couple of less tuneful noise tracks, the last album is a pretty peerlesslt crafted catchy pop punk bunch of compositions.

  • May 2, 2012, 2:43 a.m. CST

    Wise words

    by windomearle39

    It must be funny being U2. Imagine. You're the world's biggest group. Your every move receives the full glare of popular scrutiny, your every utterance is scanned for meaning and import, you can sell-out concerts across the globe, get world leaders on the phone and have million queue to buy your records. And yet in your heart of hearts you know that you weren't a patch on The Smiths. And this doesn't only apply to U2. It goes for Guns 'N' Roses, Nirvana, Bruce Springsteen and every other colossus of modern rock. Each in their own way have good things to offer but, let's be serious, they weren't The Smiths, were they?

  • Seriously, some of you want to argue that Grohl has even one song more hook-driven than any of these? There are covers of Teen Spirit by Tori Amos, Paul Anka and Robert Glasper (jazz, ever heard of jazz?) for chrissakes, just to name a few. The only Foo Fighters covers are by shitty shithole bar cover bands.

  • May 2, 2012, 3:27 a.m. CST

    Nirvana and Grohl

    by The Dwayne

    First off, whether you hated Nirvana or not, they changed the landscape of music. People say "Oh I like Soundgarden" or "I like Trapt" or whatever the like. The sound mad efrom Nirvana is what started it all. Like how we got a bunch of cartoons with humor that pushes the envelope can thank the Simpsons. Nirvana was awesome. I was thankful enough to watch them in concert before.....they broke up. Dave Grohl is amazing. I forgot which album it was but Dave Grohl did everything. Played the guitar, played the drums, wrote the lyrics, sung. He did it ALL by himself, yet he STILL credited Foo Fighters with it. That's awesome. Nirvana is awesome. I have high hopes for this film.

  • May 2, 2012, 3:45 a.m. CST

    Apostrophe misuse

    by Lampers

    Should be "its story", not "it's story". I don't normally play the pedant but I'm in that sort of mood. Love Grohl, the Foos and of course Nirvana, but this sounds a trifle dull. Possibly slightly more exciting than the forthcoming 3 hour special on the 100th anniversary of Universal Studios finance department.

  • May 2, 2012, 3:53 a.m. CST

    Smudgewhat

    by Can_I_Get_Any_Of_You_Cunts_A_Drink

    Firstly, can I get you a drink, cunt? Secondly, http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=P34Msrjn5oA#t=229s

  • May 2, 2012, 4:49 a.m. CST

    Grohl is an AIDS denier.

    by invincible88

    Who cares what he's doing...he's talked numerous hiv patients to quit their meds so he's a public health menace and should be put down.

  • But I happen to be very talented at analyzing handwriting, and looking at this guy's writing or printing I can tell that he is very creative but is also completely mentally unstable like a nut.

  • May 2, 2012, 6:16 a.m. CST

    The studio

    by dancetothebeatofthelivingdead

    I've recorded at Sound City, and it is not the "Mecca" of analog boxes; not even close. As a matter of fact it's kind of a shithole out in the middle of nowhere. However, and this is a HUUUUUUUUGE however, when you walk in there's a long corridor leading to the main studio. As you walk down the hallway, there's gold and platinum records up on the wall, all albums recorded there. One of the first ones you see is Rumours. Now, I'm not a Fleetwood Mac fan, (although their real early shit with Peter Green, before the girls joined the band is as pure white boy hard edged blues rock as it gets), but fucking Rumours was recorded there. Like them or not, it has see-sawed with Thriller for the last 20 years as the number one selling non-greatest hits album in the history of recorded sound. Holy fuck that was a Harry sentence. Fuck it, I'm not going back to fix it. Anyway, the further you walk down, you see that Tom Petty recorded his first album there, as well as Neil Young's After The Gold Rush and Rage Against The Machine's debut. Then you see it. Fucking Nevermind. You feel the history in there, and it's kind of endearing how un-modern it is, (although a buddy of mine was recording there a year or two ago and told me the remodeled the place and it looks like a modern studio now.) The vibe there is cool, or was, I mean, shit...Charles Manson recorded there! I don't get the Grohl hate. Not only does he have to be in any argument raised for one of the best drummers of all-time, his story is really cool and inspiring. Who would have blamed him or Novoselic for that matter if they just said fuck it after Kurt cashed in his chips. Instead, he came out from behind the drums and became the front man, singer, song writer for one of the 5 biggest rock bands of the last 15 years. Yeah, he relies heavily on poppy hooks but so did Nirvana, and like Nirvana, he masks the poppy hooks with enough distortion and fuzz to make it palatable for hard rock fans. He's a really passonate singer as well, sounds a lot like and reminds you a lot of...well...Cobain, to be honest. As far as the guy on top of this board saying to name 5 Foo songs with memorable hooks.....uh....do you even know what a hook is? Foo Foghters have like 2 or 3 songs that DON"T have a memorable hook. Give the guy some credit. He left his comfort zone and his band has so many hits it's ridiculous. Good songs too, not just radio fodder. Foo Fighters are a true rock and roll band and have put out some really good goddamn music. One of the very, very few left out there. Not to mention Them Crooked Vultures which was fucking incredible. Plus his stint on drums with QOTSA, the small amount of time he spent with them was by far their most creative period. Then he did that album can't remember what he called the band, where he did all the metal songs. The guy is really creative and a really good musician. If anything, Nirvana may have held him back if they had continued beacuse he would have always been in the shadow of Kurt, and Kyurt wrote all the songs except for the rythym lines. Anyway, I just wanted to comment on Sound City, sorry for the rant.

  • May 2, 2012, 6:17 a.m. CST

    The Smiths?

    by dancetothebeatofthelivingdead

  • May 2, 2012, 6:17 a.m. CST

    The Smiths?

    by dancetothebeatofthelivingdead

  • May 2, 2012, 6:20 a.m. CST

    Ughhh

    by dancetothebeatofthelivingdead

    The Smiths? I just don't get it and I never have. And don't start by putting me down and saying that I should go listen to the Jonas Borthers cuz I dont' understand what real music is blah, blah, blah. I respect them and Morrisey, I just don;t like the music. It's just depressing as fuck. I'm a musician and I love every genre of music out there, there's magic to be found in any kind of music. But The Smiths, sorry, I just can't get into it. To each his own, I guess. Right?

  • May 2, 2012, 7 a.m. CST

    Well, There's At Least One Topical Comment Several People Back

    by Aquatarkusman

    Plus, everybody knows Mark Lanegan (Screaming Trees, solo, that one Queens of the Stone Age album, duet albums with Isobel Campbell) is the best thing to come out of Seattle.

  • May 2, 2012, 7:04 a.m. CST

    Foo Fighters are okay at best...

    by Bodacious_Crumb

    Gotta hand it to them that they're keeping the rock flag alive in this modern age of bullshit music. I really find their music paint-by-numbers and I find Grohl somewhat overrated and severely annoying. I did like his Probot side-project better. Dem Crooked Vultures would've been a better group with a different singer. They sounded too much like Queens of the Stone Age given Homme's limited vocal range. Grohl's a killer drummer, though. Had Layne Staley not succumbed to drugs and had cleaned up, I think Alice In Chains would've been the big dog when it comes to rock bands today. Their last record with that new singer was actually pretty good, but Cantrell's vocals are souless and the new co-singer's voice is grating. They do work together well when harmonizing together.

  • May 2, 2012, 7:09 a.m. CST

    Probot!!

    by dancetothebeatofthelivingdead

    Thanks, bodacious_crumb, I was going nuts trying to think of that. Of course, there was no way in hell I was going to look it up, ha ha

  • May 2, 2012, 7:26 a.m. CST

    AIC

    by dancetothebeatofthelivingdead

    I've been clean fior three years now, but I'll always be a heroin addict. As much as I relate to every single line that Staley ever wrote, it's painful to listen to sometimes because it bring all of that back. Of course, that's also what is so great about his writing. He put it all out there in his lyrics. Anyone want to know what rock bottom feels like to us junkies, just listen to the album Dirt. I personally think that even though Nirvana had a cultural impact that Chains could never have dreamed of, the reasons for Nirvana's impact were very surface area, very abstract angst. Cobain's lyrics were non-linear and, withthe exception of a few songs, didn;t mean anything. It was the sound and the fury of the music and the eay he delivered the lyrics that tapped into my generations angst and disillusionment. (Is that a word? ha ha). Alice In Chains on the other hand, Staley's lyrics wre gut wreching, heart-breaking stories of the junkie's life. Even though Chains had only a fraction of the impact on our cuclture than Nirvana did, the connection was deeper and more real. I'm not saying you have to be or at some point had to be an addict to "get" AIC, but for those of us that did live tht life, no band or moive, or book, or any other format has tapped into it the way that LAyne did so seemingly effortlessly. When I think about what could have been with Nirvana, I think he would, sorry, THEY would have kept pumping it out, and I'd like to think that they never would have lost that edge like all the other bands from that period eventually did when they grew up, but they probly would have. Not necessarily turning into Green Day, but just maturing, you know? Alice In Chains on the other hand, I can't inagine where they would have went. I think they put out what they were meant to, what they were destined to. I don't think Staley could have or would hae held out uch longer no matter what. Once his wife died, he was just done. Cobain was a junkie but Staley was a lost soul who dove into heroin because there was nothing else for him. I don;t know, this is all just opinion. Nirvana reached everyone and that was great. Alice In Chains reached who they were meant to reach and to me, that was perfect. I can put those albums in to remind myself never to go back to it. While Cobain sang about abstract teenage to young adult anger and angst which any teenager no matter how idyllic their lives are can realte to. Staley exposed his soul to the world and the vision was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to dark for a lot of people. I have a tatto of Staley on my calf, and the lyric, "Say goodbye, don't follow." As much as I love Nirvana, and I do love Nirvana, they could have never inspired me to ink myslef in their memory. Any of that rant make sense?

  • May 2, 2012, 7:30 a.m. CST

    New Alice In Chains

    by dancetothebeatofthelivingdead

    Saw them live. It just seems so wrong to have someone else singing those deeply personal songs. The album was ok, no t great, not bad. I'll never go see them live again, though. It felt like they were, i Don't wanna say it was for the money, cuz those songs are very much Cantrell's too, and he has every right to do what he's doing. It just felt wrong, though.

  • May 2, 2012, 7:35 a.m. CST

    Rant makes plenty of sense...

    by Bodacious_Crumb

    ..but I should point out that Cantrell wrote most of the music and lyrics for the band. I'm also sorry to tell you that I'm 99% sure that Cantrell wrote all of the music and lyrics for "Don't Follow" (don't have the CD booklet handy and can't believe Wiki), so hopefully you don't feel the need to visit a tattoo laser removal specialist. Dirt is THE album of the 90's. I think grunge was a terrible term for bands to be lumped into. Kind of dopey to be considered into a genre like that. Some bands were also unfortunately lumped in as hair bands (Tesla, Queensryche) and it killed their careers.

  • May 2, 2012, 7:41 a.m. CST

    New Alice In Chains..

    by Bodacious_Crumb

    I thought that last album would've made better sense as another Jerry Cantrell solo record. I guess name recognition is what sells these days, particulary tours. (Look at what Axhole Poses is doing with GnR.) Jerry's last solo record was really good and still had an AIC vibe to it. His vocals do fall flat though. I think it was a mistake to replace Layne and he should've just kept on with his solo career instead. I guess everybody gotta eat. Inez should've joined Metallica. Kinney should've done some sort of jazz-fusion combo because that seems where is drumming is at. That singer should've stayed in obscurity with that awful band he came from.

  • May 2, 2012, 7:48 a.m. CST

    Foo Fighters = bland generic rock

    by jimmy_009

    It's going through the motion. They're on the more respectable side of the douche rock genre, but it's still douche rock. It's Red Bull and Slim Jim and professional wrestling rock, but a harmless, toothless version of it done by multi-millionaires who haven't lived that life in decades. They don't offend me or excite me, they're just there.

  • May 2, 2012, 7:57 a.m. CST

    Ha Ha

    by dancetothebeatofthelivingdead

    Yeah, I know that Cantrell was the musical force behind the band. Layne wrote almost all of the lyrics WITH Cantrell. It's the delivery and the pain behind it that resonated so powerfully for me, not necessarily who wrote them. Staley made those songs his, though. Just like almost every Nirvana chorus is equal parts Cobain and Grohl singing, a lot of that "Layne Staley sound" is actually Cantrell. Like you sadi, though Cantrell's singing is pretty soulless. Staley infused those songs with his life experience and all of the heartache and soul that you hear in those songs is all LAyne. I did know that Cantrell wrote Don't Follow, that wsn't the point of the tatt. It could very well be Cantrell pointing at Staley's life, and saying, "Say goodbye, don't follow" just as much as Staley looking back on his own life and saying it, and the words have the same power. Yeah, I agree with the whole "Grunge" thing. I hate the word and the mindset that all those Seattle bands of that era fit into that little box. Look at TAD, they inspired a lot of those bands and Chains and Nirvana both cut their teeth opening for TAD, and they have more of a heavy metal vibe than "grunge" I would have liked to see Inez go with Metallica because that would have killed a few birds with one stone. 1.) Trujjilo wouldn't be wasting his talents as probably the best rock bassist alive in Metallica and maybe we could have gotten another Infectious Grooves album out of him. 2.) Without Inez, Cantrell probly would have stayed onthe solo course and never would heve reforemd the band. Shit, I remember seeing Mike Inez with Ozzy during the No More Tears tour, which was ironically called the "No More Tours" tour becuase Ozzy was going to hang it up after that tour ended. If only he had, everything he's done since then, eve the Black Sabbath reunions have done nothing but diminish his legacy. Ozzy after No More Tears is like Michael Jordan when he was playing with the Washington Wizards. Some of the greatness was still there and peaked out its head at times, but was mainly just sad.

  • May 2, 2012, 8:02 a.m. CST

    jimmy_009

    by dancetothebeatofthelivingdead

    Isn't it better than the alternative, though? Rock and roll is in serious critical condition right now and has been for years. At least someone is out there still having fun with it. Yes, it's somewhat toothless, but Grohl has passion and it comes out in the music and in his singing. Pretty soon, there's going to be a game-changer. It's been a long time since a true rock and roll band has come out and grabbed the world by the balls and squeezed. Every twenty years or so it happens, and were due. Till thern, Foo Fighters are fly the flag, maybe they're not lifting it as high as they can and swinging it hard, but at least it's in the air.

  • May 2, 2012, 8:14 a.m. CST

    Uuummm, Jerry Cantrell......

    by Tothe3rdPower

    ....is kind of the driving force behind Alice in Chains. He wrote most of the music and lyrics. The Nirvana vs Foo Fighters debate is pointless! Each band is amazing and each band has cemented a legacy. I am not going to comment further. It's pointless.

  • May 2, 2012, 8:15 a.m. CST

    smudgewhat is a cock sucking troll - Grohl kicks ass

    by F This

    The dude has major talent and has slammed out many classics over, what, 17-18 years after Nirvana?

  • May 2, 2012, 8:23 a.m. CST

    I was never an Ozzy fan...

    by Bodacious_Crumb

    I saw that tub of shit in the 80's walking around shirtless, clapping, and incohererently singing and/or yelling "Let's go fucking crazy" probably 50-60 times. Liked him in Sabbath though but never saw them live. My first concert was Sabbath's Mob Rules tour with a then-unknown Quiet Riot opening. (I remember seeing Motley Crue (hate 'em but had free tix) with an unknown GnR opening. GnR were a joke at the time. They huddled in between songs to figure out the next one to play. Axhole had his teased up hair.) Ozzy was only good for the musicians he "discovered". Rhodes, Wylde, Jake E. Lee, Mike Inez, etc. He let that troll wife of his kill his legacy with all of her money grubbing schemes. Cantrell actually played on a couple of covers Ozzy did a few years back but nothing memorable. Call me a pussy, but I still get misty-eyed thinking about Layne Staley and what a huge loss he was, even moreso than Cobain.

  • May 2, 2012, 8:30 a.m. CST

    "Game Changer"

    by Bodacious_Crumb

    That can't come soon enough. I can't remember the newest artist I've bought a new CD from. Maybe a single here or there off of iTunes but that's all rock seems to be these days are one-hit wonders. Radio is tricky these days, at least on what is considered terrestrial radio these days, so a new "it" band coming out would be tough. I'd like to see it happen. The last rock CD I bought was the new Van Halen. Great return to roots record but Dave's voice is shot and they shitted on their legacy by firing Michael Anthony.

  • May 2, 2012, 9:14 a.m. CST

    quantize

    by Karl Childers

    Try using the comment section to make your point instead of the subject line.

  • May 2, 2012, 9:14 a.m. CST

    I'm not a troll. I'm here all the time :-)

    by smudgewhat

    You just don't like my opinion. I actually could give 2 shits about Grohl or Nirvana. But the angry responses are kinda funny. I think most rock is tuneless whitey dreck. Give me some James Brown and I'm a lot happier. Or Thelonius Monk.

  • May 2, 2012, 9:36 a.m. CST

    Back to the original FUCKING topic

    by robhouston

    This doc will work because he has a fantastic editor on board. Have you seen Riding Giants? The opening sequence is hilarious and educational. Oh and Foo Fighters do indeed rock.

  • ANSWER: FUCK NO! But hey, I don't begrudge the guy. He's living his dream and is very successful. Sounds like this documentary is his way of paying the industry back, and that's cool.

  • May 2, 2012, 10:59 a.m. CST

    It's times like these I learn to love again.

    by Tikidonkeypunch

  • May 2, 2012, 11:09 a.m. CST

    @wrath_of_fett

    by Fart_Master_Flex

    Nirvana wasn't groundbreaking though. Kurt freely admitted that without bands like the Pixies or Sonic Youth, there would be no Nirvana. Those bands were the ones to buck music trends and start an underground scene that was truly original. Nirvana was just following the well worn path as Foo Fighters did as well. Oh and whether or not Foo Fighters are as good as Nirvana, of course that question is subjective. Your ears hear something different than mine, etc. I think Foo Fighters are definitely on par with Nirvana.

  • May 2, 2012, 11:21 a.m. CST

    fingernails are pretty, finger nails are good

    by Karl Childers

    'nuff said.

  • Look, be honest, Foo Fighters kind of suck. Scratch that, they don't kind of suck, they just flat out suck.

  • May 2, 2012, 11:52 a.m. CST

    swollengoat

    by Nice Marmot

    Your handle says even more!

  • May 2, 2012, 12:04 p.m. CST

    dancetothebeatofthelivingdead

    by jimmy_009

    There's plenty of good rock out there by people with passion and not a tried and true formula for blandness. Right off the bat Jack White comes to mind. Listen to anything he does then listen to the Foo fighters. It's total passion vs. paint by numbers.

  • May 2, 2012, 12:07 p.m. CST

    Oh now the Pixies were gold. And so was Morphine

    by smudgewhat

    I got my tattoo to Morphine. The band, not the drug.

  • May 2, 2012, 12:34 p.m. CST

    If you want to listen to real rock, listen to At the Drive In

    by kidicarus

  • May 2, 2012, 12:41 p.m. CST

    Morphine

    by dancetothebeatofthelivingdead

    Now that was an original band! I loved Morphine. Everyone I have ever tried to turn on to Morphine has had the same complaint. that they are a one trick pony, and that after awhile all the songs sound the same. I don't understand that at all, I think they were brilliant. Jimmy_009, I agree with you on that point too, everything Jack White has done, I have absolutely loved. I saw him with the Raconteurs and with Meg as the White Stripes and he blew me away both times. Of course there is plenty of good rock out there, but what I'm saying is none of it is setting the world on fire. Black Rebel Motorcycle Club is some ggod original music and they're eclectic enough that they can switch styles at will yet still remain true to their own sound. I went to see the Black Keys about three years ago at the Riv here in Chicago right before they exploded and they blew me away too. Great live band. What I was saying is that although the Foo Fighters are just sticking to a tried and true formula, they have made some incredible music over the last 15 or so years. Just great song after great song, and I think The Clour And The Shape is one of those classic albums that only comes around once every few years. A real old school great album that is just excellent all the way through with no rough patches. I don;t know how far you've dug into their catalogue but Grohl has written some great songs and like any great band, they aren't necessarily the songs you've heard thousands of times on the radio. Just like give me Nutshell any day of the week over Man In the Box, or Give me Lounge Act 3,000 times in a row before I have to hear Come As You Are again, so the Foo Fighters have songs like Up In Arms. It's all a matter of taste and I don't begrudge Grohl for leaning just a little bit more to the side of pop because he still has the rock and roll aspect of it to fire it up a bit. Plus if what he's doing is so easy why then aren't there hundreds of other bands out there sounding like the Foo Fighters and ripping him off? He's been insanely succesful in crafting hit after hit after hit. Yet the formula that all these copycat acts out there copied is that Blink 182 sound, which if you ask me is more of a slap in the face to punk or even rock for that matter than a guy whose roots are firmly planted in punk rock branching out and enjoying the success that he truly deserves for writing songs with such great melodies and irrestible hooks. The guy's a good fucking songwriter and I don;t think that anyone can honestly argue that.

  • May 2, 2012, 2:21 p.m. CST

    Wow, are you people serious?

    by frank

    It’s always interesting when a topic is revisited years later to see how people’s understanding of past reality has become bizarrely convoluted. Foo Fighters better than Nirvana? Grohl more talented than Cobain? That is utterly untrue. I wouldn’t have even expected it to be debatable, and yet I see a bunch of people in this thread saying these things. Because the Foo Fighters have catchier songs? Because Cobain wasn’t a guitar virtuoso? I guess I will assume (hope) that the people writing these things are just 14 year olds who also think that Staind is a better band than Nirvana. And I think Dave Grohl and the Foo Fighters are great. Dave would probably be way more fun to hang out with that Kurt was, but come on! Nevermind and In Utero are both classics (the latter being my personal favorite), and parts of Bleach also approach classic status. Even a lot of Nirvana’s B side/rarities material is amazing. It’s extremely creative, heartfelt and evocative music; the perfect blend of beauty and discord. It is known.

  • May 2, 2012, 2:38 p.m. CST

    Nirvana was definitely groundbreaking.

    by frank

    They sound very different from bands like Sonic Youth and The Pixies. Sure, every band has influences but Nirvana didn’t rip anyone off. Show me another album that sounds like In Utero and I will... well, I guess I will buy the album and listen to it for weeks on end, because it will be awesome. On songs like 'Radio Friendly Unit Shifter' and ‘Tourette’s,' Cobain somehow managed to make what sounds at first like random screaming simultaneously melodic. I still am amazed at that achievement and have yet to see another band pull it off nearly as well (Pixies come closest, but without the same sincerity). And 'Milk It’ is one of my favorite songs by any band.

  • May 2, 2012, 3:02 p.m. CST

    @ dancetothebeatofthelivingdead

    by travismays

    You're thinking of Probot.

  • Them's the facts. You can piss all over the rest of the Foo's back catalogue for all I care, but Colour & The Shape stands up there, and above, Nirvana's output when it comes to track by track of just pure music. As influential? Hell no. But that's not the question. Just about the music.

  • May 2, 2012, 3:29 p.m. CST

    tall_boy6t6

    by frank

    Them’s the facts? First of all, it is a subjective argument, so facts don’t really enter into it. But if we were to try to look at it objectively then you would still be completely wrong. Color & Shape may be catchier or something (I would even disagree with that, if you are comparing to Nevermind) but by basically any other criterion, other than maybe guitar solo difficulty, Nirvana’s music is better.

  • May 2, 2012, 3:37 p.m. CST

    Morphine was great. Really cool, unique sound.

    by frank

    I was really upset when Mark Sandman died. Fill it up and send it back.

  • May 2, 2012, 4:58 p.m. CST

    franks_television

    by dancetothebeatofthelivingdead

    I've written a few long posts on this board and talked about a lot of different things, but if you think that I ever stated that Foof Fighters were better than Nirvana you have misunderstood me. I never said that, and I never alluded to or even insinuated that. If you are speaking to someone else, than I apologize for jumping on the defensive. You addressed your post to "you people" and I was one of the main people in the discussion earlier so I took that as you at least partially addressing your post to me. I do not think that Foo Fighters are better than Nirvana. They are definitely more accomplished musicians, I don't think anyone would argue that. It's all subjective and a matter of opinion and I hate when people start questioning people's intelligence and slinging insults because they like a certain band better than another one. I personally prefer Nirvana over Foo Fighters any day of the week and twice on Sunday. However, tall_boy is also correct IN MY OPINION in stating that The Colour And The Shape as an album is at least on par with Nirvana's best albums, it's a fucking incredible album. Nirvana earned their spot in music history, and I think all of the adulation is absolutely deserved, and as far as those people who claim that the reverence for Nirvana started after Cobain's death, you people are wrong. I could only assume that anyone stating that is under 30 because they were just as revered before he died. Nirvana is not the greatest band of all time, and neither are the Foo Fighters. Both bands have their own spot in music lore, and I would think that a Nirvana fan would at least respect how difficult it has been for Grohl to keep that band on top for as long as he has, considering the pressure Cobain felt to do exactly that was one of the main contributing factors of him taking the pussy way out and shooting himself in the face. It's music, people. It's all opinion. What do your ears like. Their are no right or wrong answers. That's a fact.

  • May 2, 2012, 5:14 p.m. CST

    All this NIRVANA talk

    by TheUmpireStrokesBach

    and then this...http://www.thefix.com/content/courtney-love-frances-cobain-publicity-rights91000 HALLE-FUCKING-LUJAH.

  • May 2, 2012, 6:50 p.m. CST

    No mention of The U-Men, Malfunkshun, Green River.

    by Bedknobs and Boomsticks

    Mother Love Bone, The Melvins, Mudhoney. You all have a shallow knowledge of "grunge" or the Seattle scene.

  • May 2, 2012, 7:08 p.m. CST

    bedknobs_and_boomsticks

    by ajit maholtra

    Stop being a hipster douchebag you mater chot.

  • May 2, 2012, 7:14 p.m. CST

    I was bummed when Sandman died too. They seemed to have

    by smudgewhat

    Some new tricks on the first 4 songs of the final record. I think of that band as a mood. They inhabit their own special space, and if you're in that mood that is exactly where you want to live. And also yes The Smiths were groundbreaking. Still love Moz's refusal to play nice.

  • May 2, 2012, 7:45 p.m. CST

    bedknobs_and_broomsticks

    by dancetothebeatofthelivingdead

    Maybe it's because we're not talking about "grunge" or the Seattle scene. Maybe it's because this discussion has been about the Foo Fighters and Nirvana and at one point Alice In Chains. None of the bands you named are underground anymore. The history of that period and locale is so well known now, been documented so many times by so many people that the fact that you barged into this discussion which has nothing to do with the originators of that sound just to name off bands that you think that we don;t know reeks of a desperate need for approval. So desperate that you alienate yourself in your attempt to make everyone think that you have some kind of inside track on these known bands. But hey, I'll play along. Who is Mother Love Bone? Are they a grunge band? Where can I go see them? Please tell me all about them. Wow. You forgot Tad. Only the real cool people know about Tad, right? Go away

  • May 3, 2012, 3:13 a.m. CST

    Barged? Ha! I can comment on any thread I please.

    by Bedknobs and Boomsticks

    People are stating who they think is the greatest grunge band. I'm doing something similar. Grow a thicker skin and stop taking posts on the web so seriously. It's sad that a anonymous person's post on here strikes a nerve with you. You must be a fragile sort in real life.

  • May 3, 2012, 3:16 a.m. CST

    And, if anything, I forgot to mention The Fastbacks.

    by Bedknobs and Boomsticks