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Aint It Cool News talks to director Jon M. Chu about ninjas, Cobra Commander, and leading Bruce Willis and The Rock into battle in this Summer's G.I. JOE RETALIATION!!

 

 
 
Hi folks, Russ Sheath from AICN Comics here and I was lucky enough to spend some time  talking with Jon M. Chu, director of the upcoming G.I. Joe Retaliation.
 
First off, I’ve got to say that its easy to tell that Jon Chu ‘gets’ G.I. Joe.  Starring Dwayne ‘The Rock’ Johnson and Bruce WIllis, G.I. Joe Retaliation is this summers sequel to 2009’s Rise of Cobra, a movie that while commercially successful, was met with a less enthusiastic response from both critics and fans of the 30 year old mythos. 
 
The reaction to G.I. Joe Retaliation however, has been nothing short of remarkable. With each successive trailer and image checking all the right boxes for fans and ‘civilian’ movie goers alike, all indications point towards this being the movie G.I. Joe followers have been waiting to see.
 
Snake-Eyes with no lips? Check.
 
Cobra Commander looking like the terrorist leader we all know and loathe? Check.
 
Great visual effects, epic action and ninjas fighting on the side of a mountain? Check.
 
Two of the biggest, most charismatic movie stars on the planet? Check and check again.
 
There’s no doubting that G.I .Joe is reloaded, breathing new life into a franchise that had stumbled when it was barely out of the stalls.  Retaliation proves a grittier, dirtier and more realistic Joe -  ready for battle.
 
With Johnson, a global superstar of screen and wresting, reveling in his new found reputation as ‘franchise viagra’ and Bruce Wills being...well...Bruce Willis, the question on everyones lips is: "Who is the film’s director, Jon M. Chu?'
 
 
With nine movies to his name including Justin Bieber: Never Say Never and 2008’s Step Up 2: The Streets, there’s no doubting Jon Chu’s experience as a director - but you may be forgiven for exercising ‘the peoples eyebrow’ when he was announced as the vision behind an action adventure movie, let alone a summer tentpole franchise such as G.I. Joe.
 
Despite the obvious pressure of helming this new vision of the G.I. Joe universe,  Chu appears naturally at ease, proving endlessly enthusiastic about his role as gatekeeper into the cinematic world of G.I. Joe. Chu discusses his task with authority, in a way assuring you that he is not only respectful of the source material, but is also a fan.
 
Talking about the relationship between Snake Eyes and Scarlett, Cobra Island and the potential difficulties of introducing Serpentor to the Joe universe, Chu describes the mythos in a way that you don’t get from a ‘G.I. Joe 101’ lesson one afternoon at a toy manufacturer.  You get it from a ‘relationship’ with the source material.
 
I spoke to Jon Chu, and as a huge G.I. Joe fan, I could have happily talked for much longer about story telling, his love for the source material, and his vision for the future of G.I. Joe. 
 
 
Sadly, the first few minutes of our conversation were lost in the transatlantic static (Cobra scrambling?), but I began with congratulating Jon on the reaction that G.I. Joe Retaliation has received so far.
 
I asked Jon about how he came to direct GI Joe Retaliation and how that translated from a background in dance and music films. 
 
Explaining that he doesn’t have a dance background but is rather a story teller, Chu said that he regarded action movies, much like his movies about dance and music, are all about movement. 
 
 
 
The static unscrambled, I asked Jon:  What are the challenges when shifting onto a production that is so much larger and more complex than the films he has previously been involved in?
 
Jon Chu (JC): There’s a lot of action sequences. It’s been a fun thing to learn with explosions and things that I’ve never worked with before. Thats all logistics, we have a great crew and they really helped me, but all it came down to once the camera was turned on, was the actors and that lens.  That’s what we really focused on.
 
There’s a lot of action sequences, and you are dealing with things like safety issues on a huge set where you have 600 people waiting for your next call and you have actors waiting to fill their part of the story. There’s a lot of companies involved. That was a challenge.
 
Everyone pretty much from the beginning of this movie agreed on the type of movie we were making and what we were trying to do with it and that made everything a lot smoother. 
 
 
 
Russ Sheath (RS): What genres interest you the most, can you see yourself trying different things in the future?
 
JC: Right now I love and I’m addicted to the action-adventure movie. We are literally creating a world, and as a story teller its the first time I’ve done this from the ground up. I’ll be playing around in this world for a bit and we’ll see what happens. Of course I want to try all different kinds of genre.
 
 
 
RS: Can you shed some light on what your priorities were to ‘fix’, if thats the correct term, from the first movie?
 
JC: You know, It was never about fixing, for me it was all about doing ‘our’ version. The thing about G.I. Joe is that it’s reinvented over and over again, sort of like Batman or Spider-Man, in a way. 
 
What were the Joes that I always wanted? I wanted people to ‘feel the punch’ and ‘feel the power of the punch’ in this movie. These guys get hurt, they get scratches and they have wear and tear to them. 
 
They aren’t just a group, each one is an individual. I always loved that each one had a different personality. Snake Eyes had one personality, Roadblock had another. Flint had another.  Duke had another, and each one had their own flaws and ways to ‘get there’. 
 
G.I. Joe is about gadgets and vehicles, but at the core...and why I love this world...it’s about human beings being leaders and heroes. It was about human choices, and doing the right thing, and doing the hard thing, and that was something we really tried to focus on in this movie.
 
It’s defining what it takes to be a hero and leader in your class, in your city, in your country, and in the world at a time when...what it means to be a leader is being questioned all around the world.  It’s a great question to explore.
 
Thats why Bruce plays a big part in the movie - he teaches these guys that it’s not from the outside-in, but being a soldier is from the inside-out.  It’s about being a human being,  and not being a soldier.
 
Of course, high flying ninjas and crazy fights were always going to be part of it.
 
I wanted, obviously, humor - and it doesn’t take it self too seriously.  But at the same time, as a kid, I did believe these guys were real. I did believe they were really shooting, and I did believe that we had enemies like that.  So, I really wanted that ‘in between’ aspect of it not being ‘so’ fantasy. They are real human beings, and they are just like you....just bigger than you.
 
 
 
RS:  Can you give us something to look out for or that the fans might not be aware of, as yet?
 
JC:  We are having a lot of fun with Cobra ‘being’ the Joes in this version. As you know, the multi-media aspect of movies now means the story doesn’t begin and end in the movie, it actually can begin way before...online...and can continue afterwards. We have stuff going on that you should be looking out for online such as the ‘Cobra Special Forces’ site, its all part of our goal.
 
We have a lot of little things that I don’t want to spoil, other than to look out for them.
 
Maybe there’s some Cobra cover companies, maybe there are characters that we are setting up here who come back in a different form. Definitely there’s some things in there which may seem like ‘nothing in this movie, but they have a purpose!
 
 
 
RS:  Can you shed some light on the much discussed ‘Cobra Commander Conundrum’ - which admittedly sounds like an episode of The Big Bang Theory? Is that Rex who end up wearing the Cobra Commander suit, in the movie?
 
JC:  I don’t know where all this crazy, speculative stuff came from. We were asked the question, Lorenzo [di Bonaventura, Producer) and I at Toy Fair...
 
 ‘Is that the same actor’? 
 
I was like...
 
‘No, its not the same actor’. 
 
‘Is that Joseph Gordon Levitt?’
 
‘No, it is not!’
 
But it is Rex!
 
We are continuing that story, there is no other Cobra Commander. We can put that rumor to rest. I was waiting for this moment to finally clarify, I’m glad you asked that.
 
 
 
RS:  How was it bringing together Dwayne ‘The Rock’ Johnson and Bruce Willis? 
 
JC:  That was insane! I never thought it would happen. Bruce and Dwayne, the legend and the icon together, in one frame and then you throw in Snake Eyes right next to them, that was pretty insane. They had a lot of fun, we were trying to keep up with them and keep the camera rolling.  The things they would riff off were just hilarious.  They had a great time.
 
 
 
RS:  This is a question that you may not want to answer for fear of a SPOILER.  Will we be seeing the demise of characters like Duke, or will there be the opportunity for him to come back?
 
JC:  All I can say is:  you should always expect the unexpected in the G.I. Joe.  ALWAYS expect the unexpected.
 
 
 
Did you put the actors through a boot camp to learn about being soldiers?
 
JC: We worked with Harry Humphries, who was a SEAL, and we bought in a bunch of SEALS to our movie to help guide our actors and myself. So it was like ‘OK, we need to get the actors from here...to here...and then to the nuclear warhead.  How would they do it’? 
 
They would give us all the jargon and all the actions.  They would, literally, choreograph that.  The actors really leaned on them about how to say things correctly, and even now we are still working with them with extra dialogue and stuff. We are doing ADR and adding more and more.
 
 
 
RS: Do you have any favorite story lines from the G.I. Joe comic book?
 
JC: I always loved the relationship between Snake-Eyes and Scarlett.  That love story was like Romeo and Juliet. We are planting a lot of seeds for the audience who don’t know how ninjas and the military exist in one world...with a guy in a silver mask...we have to set things up. There’s plenty of things.  Cobra Island, I wouldn’t necessarily get into the Serpentor arena, but.... 
 
 
 
RS:  If there’s an opportunity to return for G.I. Joe 3 would you be keen to helm that movie (should it come about?)
 
JC: I had a great time on this movie, and we are still finishing it up and focusing on that. For me, we are building a world...and the beginning of a world...and there’s so much more in the G.I. Joe universe we can add and if you build the foundation.  We can go anywhere. 
 
 
 
A massive thank you to Jon Chu for his time this afternoon. Follow Jon on Twitter and GI Joe Retaliation's Twitter is HERE
 
GI Joe Retaliation is released on 29th June 2012 in the US and Canada and 8th August 2012 in the UK
 
Thanks to Justin from @generalsjoes and to Justin P for questions input.
 
Follow Russ Sheath @russwords on Twitter.
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  • May 1, 2012, 11:53 a.m. CST

    Sue me - my butt will be in the seats

    by Big_Daddy_Nero

  • May 1, 2012, 12:11 p.m. CST

    You've been served

    by Domi'sInnerChild

  • Come again? -Namaste-

  • May 1, 2012, 12:19 p.m. CST

    SOLD.

    by JV

    This quote does it for me: "I always loved the relationship between Snake-Eyes and Scarlett. That love story was like Romeo and Juliet." As a die-hard Larry Hama Joe fan, my single biggest gripe about the first flick was Scarlett and Ripcord hooking up. Snake Eyes and Scarlett had an amazing relationship in the comic, and the movie flushed it down the crapper, I guess because Snakes is mute. The fact that Chu gets that dynamic is very encouraging, and from the look of the trailer, it looks like Jinx will fill the "Scarlett" role in terms of a being a kick-ass love interest. I actually enjoyed Sommers' movie a lot, and found it to be fairly respectful of the source material, at least when graded on the Hollywood curve. But it's obvious Chu is bringing a fan's enthusiasm to this one, and that has me quite excited.

  • May 1, 2012, 12:29 p.m. CST

    Looks great

    by RocketFuckingMan

  • May 1, 2012, 12:37 p.m. CST

    I don't think Jon Chu gets G.I.Joe at all....

    by JeanLuc Dickhard

    I'm a child of the 80's i watched gi joe eveyday after school, had almost all the gi joe toys growing up and read the marvel gi joe comcs, and if you say your a fan of gi joe, the one thing you don't do is kill off, Mother fucking DUKE... i don't give a shit if you think Duke is boring or what ever the hell.... you don't kill off Duke... he is gi joe If you don't believe me, look at the opening credits of the gi joe cartoon movie... that opening credit scene is in my honest opinion the best episode or telling of any gi joe story... and i felt that opening credit scene was like one big pay off for watching, collection and reading gijoe for years now the movie itself was terrible but that opeing scene is the joe legacy... the first joe you see in that scene is duke being the capt america of the gi joe world and at the end when they are all together in that group shot after duke fucking saves the day by getting rid of that bomb, Duke is in the fucking middle of the group shot as the main hero like he freaking should be.... So if duke dies in this movie like the trailer seems to show, then i have to say that Jon Chu does not get gi joe at all... even the assholes at the time in charge of the cartoon movie, fixed it so that duke woke up from a coma... now if duke does not die, or is alive by the end, the i will feel like an asshole for ranting here, but till then i will stick with my pissedoffness

  • May 1, 2012, 12:44 p.m. CST

    bryanfantana

    by seagrass

    Sommers actually nailed the tone of Snake Eyes and Scarlett's relationship, and he did it with only one scene (where Scarlett is basically cuddled up to Snake Eyes on a transport). Go back and look for it. Scarlett and Ripcord never really did hook up... just a lot of flirting.

  • May 1, 2012, 12:44 p.m. CST

    Where is DESTRO!?!

    by spicy-mag.com

    This looks 1,000,000,000 times better than the first abomination. But they should have just rebooted the thing. The first one got nothing right.

  • May 1, 2012, 12:48 p.m. CST

    Duke...didn't he basically disappear

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Halfway through season 1 of the old Joe cartoon, and then it was all about Flint, Shipwreck, and Roadblock. Season 2 was totally Dukeless...right? And then In G.I. Joe the Movie he just spent the whole time telling his half brother Don Johnson what to do before taking a Snake to the heart.

  • May 1, 2012, 12:51 p.m. CST

    sam like i said that movie was terrible

    by JeanLuc Dickhard

    But they got the opening credits right on the money

  • May 1, 2012, 12:52 p.m. CST

    spicymag: the first one got a few things right

    by seagrass

    I thought the Storm Shadow and Snake Eyes dynamic was pretty well done for a re-invention.

  • May 1, 2012, 12:55 p.m. CST

    grittier, dirtier and more realistic Joe

    by LethargicJ

    This is exactly what I loved the first movie and hate what I see of the second. Not everything was created to be gritty, dirty and realistic. Just because it works for Batman doesn't mean it works for everything. Why can't some things just be silly and fun? When I watch the original GI Joe cartoons I see a stupid, over the top, silly, dumb, fun action show that I love. And the first movie captured that tone perfectly and that's what I want to see out of a GI Joe movie. Why do I want a realistic GI Joe movie? Everybody looks back on stuff from their childhood like it was better than it actual was. Then they start pissing and moaning about people "raping" their childhood. Yet if you look at the source material and look at the first movie, they nailed it. Dark, gritty, realistic? That doesn't describe the source material one bit. And don't pull out the comic book argument. The movies exist based on the popularity of the cartoon. Nobody gives a shit about the comic books outside of a handful of nerds.

  • May 1, 2012, 12:55 p.m. CST

    jeanluc dickhard: You DID read the interview, right?

    by Playkins

    Chu CLEARLY hints that Duke might not be dead. Is it *at all* possible that Duke might factor in to the story somehow? Surprise twist maybe?

  • There were lots of characters that got a "spotlight" treatment. Duke was around, but not always the focus.

  • May 1, 2012, 1:03 p.m. CST

    i read the interview

    by JeanLuc Dickhard

    and i also said that if duke is alive by the end i would feel like an asshole for ranting

  • May 1, 2012, 1:09 p.m. CST

    Duke in a coma?

    by khayos

    I think it's the Cobra Commander toy that comes with a serpent staff... does that put Duke in a coma? HUGE props if they go with that... Others would be: 1) Sgt Slaughter cameo 2) Someone goes "lalalalalallalalla" 3) Shipwreck

  • May 1, 2012, 1:14 p.m. CST

    Duke was stupid

    by rev_skarekroe

    When I started playing with GI Joes there wasn't a Duke. They introduced him a year later to be generic-blond-hero-guy, and he sucked. Not that I give a damn, because I don't care that much about movies based on toys. I'm just saying, there are far more interesting characters in the Joe world, many of whom pre-date Duke.

  • May 1, 2012, 1:15 p.m. CST

    @jeanluc dickhard

    by DeusExMachina

    I thought the whole Duke slipping into a coma thing was because parents bitched about Optimus Prime dying?

  • May 1, 2012, 1:19 p.m. CST

    Um, lethargicj, you are completely wrong

    by seagrass

    G.I. Joe is popular because of the comics, the cartoon and the toys - all three. However, the mythology in the movie was based on the comics. The cartoon never even got into Snake Eyes, Scarlett and Storm Shadow. Hell, Larry Hama was the creative consultant on the first movie! In fact, if it wasn't for him, Snake Eyes would have talked at some point in the movie. Get your facts straight.

  • May 1, 2012, 1:22 p.m. CST

    The comics started off pretty damn gritty

    by seagrass

    and continue like that to this day. Ever read issue #2? Dr. Venom and Kwinn? I'd like to think that the ending of Leon: The Professional was inspired by issue #2 of G.I. Joe.

  • May 1, 2012, 1:24 p.m. CST

    deusexmachina is correct

    by seagrass

    it had everything to do with the reaction to the Optimus death and nothing to do with Duke being the leader or the main hero. By the way, Hawk was the commander of the Joes. Duke was second-in-command.

  • May 1, 2012, 1:26 p.m. CST

    Even though I enjoyed the cartoons

    by seagrass

    they were simply long-form ads for the toys. They didn't even manage to keep up with the deluge of toys that came out!

  • May 1, 2012, 1:28 p.m. CST

    I hated Duke, too

    by seagrass

    and piss on the cartoon for hooking him up with Scarlett. I wish they had killed him off like originally planned.

  • May 1, 2012, 1:29 p.m. CST

    Duke was the ultimate boy scout

    by JeanLuc Dickhard

    he didn't have to be the main leader, but he was always the main hero.... and if he is killed off here then this director failed gi joe

  • May 1, 2012, 1:33 p.m. CST

    If the director has the balls to kill off Duke

    by seagrass

    I pledge to see every single one of his movies... even the fucking Bieber flick.

  • May 1, 2012, 1:35 p.m. CST

    As much as I loved Snake Eyes

    by seagrass

    the comics went overboard with his character for a bit. For almost a dozen issues the title was changed to "G.I. Joe (in small print) starring SNAKE EYES (in massive print). Issue #21 is still the absolute finest moment in the series.

  • May 1, 2012, 1:39 p.m. CST

    bah you damn kids with your smartphones

    by JeanLuc Dickhard

    thinking everything was all about ninja's and stuff, you damn kids and your damn dawson's river shit...

  • May 1, 2012, 1:44 p.m. CST

    Chu gets G.I. Joe, alright

    by seagrass

    Joe Colton (the original G.I. Joe) was only in the comics (and was a homage to the 1960's toys). He never even appeared in the cartoon. It's pretty obvious that Chu and the writers of the new film was big fans of the comics and could have cared less about the cartoon - which is how I imagine the majority of Joe fans probably feel.

  • May 1, 2012, 1:46 p.m. CST

    I was a G.I. Joe superfreak

    by seagrass

    back in the day, and it was all thanks to Larry Hama. Too bad they just didn't let him write the first film.

  • May 1, 2012, 1:50 p.m. CST

    It's too bad that both films left out Stalker

    by seagrass

    I would have liked to see who they would have cast to play him.

  • take that Sommers and Bay!

  • May 1, 2012, 2:20 p.m. CST

    Thats all fine and dandy ...

    by Todaysfate

    but a GIJOE Movie no matter how much "better" it is even with Bruce and The Rock ... without Scarlett, Baroness or Destro is like a car without a transmission.

  • And among my favorite Joe Characters Note that both have a somewhat simular Class: Commando/Ranger. So it's no mere coincidence that my username is Stalkeye. Now you know, and knowing is half the battle. (0;'

  • May 1, 2012, 3:04 p.m. CST

    look at me I can speculate!

    by cory

    on a final product i have no fucking clue about! im cool too, right? If you're gonna be mad at anyone for Duke being killed, call tatum because he fucking sucked and insisted on using his wannabe thug demeanor with the character. He in no way acted like any kind of joe leadership should have. Marlon Wayans and Snake Eyes were the only good thing about the first. If they wanted Destro back, they shouldn't have hired Eccleston. He's notoriously flighty. The biggest problem with ROC was the fucking casting. Had they found a more suitable outfit, it may have worked. Look at all of Duke's lines, they werent horrible. They were horribly delivered.

  • May 1, 2012, 3:09 p.m. CST

    Regarding Duke's involvement in the comic and cartoon...

    by Harlock999

    Quite frankly, Duke was not the centerpiece of either the cartoon or comicbook. In the cartoon, I would argue that Flint and/or Lady Jaye were the primary Joes after that initial 5-part miniseries. And in the comic? Snake-Eyes was the man. Duke provided a leadership role in the early episodes of the Sunbow cartoon, and then showed up in the movie to basically launch his younger brother (Falcon) into the starring role. And Larry Hama simply used Duke as a drill sergeant for the most part throughout his run. I mean, occasionally, Duke would lead a squad. But usually, that fell to the more popular characters (in the comics!) such as Hawk or Stalker. Anyway, I cannot imagine a TRUE Joe fan actlualy getting ticked at the removal of Duke over Hawk... *leaves two cents on the table*

  • May 1, 2012, 3:10 p.m. CST

    The first one sucked...

    by Nerd Rage

    ...ass.

  • But these days, his joints are so loose, he's basically a marionette. Ha. Anyway, Snake-Eyes and Flint were always my two favorite Joes. So it's nice to see they're both in this flick.

  • May 1, 2012, 3:23 p.m. CST

    Count me in for Camp Hawk.

    by Stalkeye

    In the comics, he was the one and only leader of the Joes. Not only did he personally take on Cobra Commander and Destro, (Night Attack) but lead a major assault on Cobra Island as well as the war in Benzeen in which several Joes were killed off. Was was good as a second in command, but not one to overshadow Hawk. The cartoons did a great disservice to Hawk by portraying him as some old fuddy duddy. And sorry, the DIC series sure as shit didn't count.

  • May 1, 2012, 3:23 p.m. CST

    mojococo

    by seagrass

    They don't really need Eccleston back. Destro is now in a mask, and I imagine his voice will probably end up being affected as well. They could put anyone under the mask if they wanted to.

  • May 1, 2012, 3:26 p.m. CST

    harlock999

    by seagrass

    I wonder if they will keep the Flint/Lady Jaye relationship intact? That was one thing that was kept consistent through both the cartoon and comic book.

  • May 1, 2012, 3:28 p.m. CST

    I was a bit shocked when they killed off

    by seagrass

    Cover Girl in the first film. Wasn't expecting that at all.

  • May 1, 2012, 5:28 p.m. CST

    Fuck Duke. Hawk was their original leader.

    by Bedknobs and Boomsticks

    As rev_skarekroe pointed out, Duke was crammed down our throats when the second wave debuted, forcing Hama to add the second wavers to the book, and forcing out characters who were supposed to have a history with the team all too soon, like Rock 'n Roll, in favor of Roadblock. And Flint was way more cool than Duke. Duke just seemed like a one note drill sergeant type.

  • May 1, 2012, 5:33 p.m. CST

    But as annoying as Duke was, Channing Tatum was

    by Bedknobs and Boomsticks

    all wrong for the role. Another thing I always hated was the switch of Snake Eyes from commando goggles to that bizarre mini-blinds/medieval visor/Geordi la Forge visor thing. Just idiotic looking.

  • May 1, 2012, 6:43 p.m. CST

    I wish they had asked about Cobra Commander's voice

    by Rebel Scumb

  • May 1, 2012, 6:44 p.m. CST

    Next to TDKR, Prometheus & Avengers, this movie is my #4 must see

    by Rebel Scumb

  • I like Duke because of the cartoon, but he was not an integral part of the comic. Still I hope he survives the attack in the film. Someone will need rescuing. As I've said in previous Joe tb's I hope Scarlett is away on special missions.

  • May 1, 2012, 8:52 p.m. CST

    I love where John Chu is taking the franchise...

    by Christian Sylvain

    But when there's no more than 4 Joes in the entire movie and only 3 of them can speak, something feels wrong.

  • May 1, 2012, 9:01 p.m. CST

    Duke wasn't "GI Joe", Hawk was...

    by lynxpro

    Only people who were fans of the cartoon - and not the kick ass original Marvel Comics - would say something like that. Hawk was the leader of the Joes, not Duke. Duke showed up in the 'toon first and comics fans were like "who the eff is this Duke guy?" And how does a Master Sergeant have the credentials to fly a Sky Striker?

  • May 1, 2012, 10:45 p.m. CST

    hephaestus - count again

    by seagrass

    Roadblock, Flint, Jinx, Lady Jaye, Joe Colton, Mouse, Sgt Slaughter, Snake Eyes - that's 8 total, and only one of those can't speak.

  • May 1, 2012, 10:52 p.m. CST

    Well, technically, General Flagg was the leader

    by seagrass

    (and creator) of the G.I. Joe team - although he wasn't active in the field. Hawk was the main field commander of the Joes, until Flagg died defending the Pit (awesome issue, BTW). Hawk was promoted to General shortly afterward. Flagg was more of a "man-behind-the-curtain" character.

  • May 2, 2012, 12:25 a.m. CST

    Once again, I've seen this ENTIRE MOVIE and it sucks balls.

    by Zarles

    Jon doesn't get GI Joe in the slightest. Believe me. I won't say too much, but they don't even do Destro the justice of killing him off in a proper way. He gets left behind in prison by Storm Shadow and Cobra Commander like a dying dog. And that's in the first five minutes of this piece of shit. Don't waste your time.

  • Recast if you need to, but don't permanently remove central characters from the franchise. Find a way to tell a new story without closing the door on all but one of the heroes from the first movie.

  • May 2, 2012, 2:44 a.m. CST

    Most were exposed to the toy and then the comic.

    by Bedknobs and Boomsticks

    Flagg wasn't mentioned on the file cards, so Hawk takes precedence for the fans. And Flagg seemed like he was created as cannon fodder, to have someone get killed to justify the danger of bullets spraying everywhere. Sort of how the Cobra officer Scarface was sort of fleshed out and then killed.

  • May 2, 2012, 10:01 a.m. CST

    Without Shipwreck I am can't take this film seriously, sorry.

    by the Green Gargantua

    no really.

  • anyone ever did that with their Joes? I had a freaking backwards body war where everyone walked forwards slow and backwards fast, so it turned into a huge sniper fight. Loved those toys!!

  • May 2, 2012, 10:20 a.m. CST

    jeanluc dickhard - REGARDING DUKE

    by BunnyMcNibbnles

    I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but when they made the original G.I. movie (the cartoon one in the late 80's), they originally killed off Duke. Remember when Serpentor throws his staff at Duke and it goes straight through his chest and blood spurts out all over the place? Well, they had PLANNED on him being dead after that. Then, before the movie was released, somehow that little spoiler got out and parents were PISSED because a lot of kids had heard about it and were really upset. So, at the end of the movie, they don't show Duke being alive because the movie was already completed, but one of the characters says, "Hey everyone, Duke just woke up! He's gonna be okay!" That was never supposed to be part of the script. He was GOING to be dead. So, my point is this: if he dies in this one, it doesn't contradict the original storyline.

  • The fact is that Marvel/Sunbow caught A LOT of flack over Optimus Prime's death in Transformers: The Movie, which Hasbro's marketing department hadn't forseen. (They just figured "out with the old toys, in with the new toys.") Once Hasbro realized that the kids were actually, you know, CONNECTING to the characters? And the death of a key "good guy" character could cause a public backlash? Well, while the animation was already completed on G.I.Joe:The Movie, the script was rewritten so that Duke was no longer dead at Serpentor's hand. Duke was simply in a coma. And then, hey, he got better, kids!

  • May 2, 2012, 10:31 a.m. CST

    @Seagrass

    by Christian Sylvain

    Doesn't Sgt. Slaughter, Mouse, and Duke get killed off early anyway? But I did forget about Jinx, though I'm not too sure how large Joe Colton's involvement will be. At this point, I guess it's all speculative, but I'm just not too content about the lack of so many characters in the film.

  • May 2, 2012, 10:37 a.m. CST

    Bunny my point is ......

    by JeanLuc Dickhard

    That i don't think the director really understands gi joe, especially if duke dies at the start or isnt alive by the end... not everything is god damned ninjas.... i just hope someone yells out Ninjas DAMN...like my Rush did in the warriors way .... and again look at the opening credits to the cartoon movie.... who ever did that opening understands what the hell gi joe is all about

  • May 2, 2012, 12:08 p.m. CST

    Well said Boomsticks, well said.

    by Stalkeye

  • ..."Clayton Abernathy"? (Joe fans know who I'm refering to.) Lolz

  • May 2, 2012, 12:16 p.m. CST

    jeanluc dickhard

    by seagrass

    you are batshit insane, my friend. Toys in the attic, truly gone fishing, etc.

  • May 2, 2012, 12:46 p.m. CST

    hephaestus

    by seagrass

    I hear ya... would also be nice to at least have some cameos in there, too. I'm just hoping that we see Firefly in his original costume. Zarles kinda scared me with his comment about the movie sucking, though... and then I thought, "Who the fuck is this Zarles guy?"

  • May 2, 2012, 1:55 p.m. CST

    and my favorite gi joe is Shipwreck...

    by JeanLuc Dickhard

    But i have to stand up for duke.... because it seems like if you weren't around durring the 80's gi joe hayday, you really don't understand gijoe today and only know about the ninjas...

  • As far as I'm concerned, it was the comics that captured the true spirit of the franchise and not the cartoons. (well, until Hama got batshit insane with too many Ninja Subplots during the 90's.) That being said, Duke has been marketed as the quintessential leader of the Joes thanks in part to the Sunbow Animated series, GIJoe resolute and now Renegades. Which of course, he became the major protagonist in Rise of Cobra but potrayed badly thanks to Tatum. (Citing piss poor acting and dialog like"That's my Girl"!) And for the record, Dennis Quaid wasn't too convincing as Hawk either. He practically phoned in the part. Bad, bad Movie. let's hope Retaliation can give these guys the Jump start they so deserve. Happy 30th ARAH!

  • May 2, 2012, 3:22 p.m. CST

    @Seagrass

    by Christian Sylvain

    If it makes you feel better, Firefly does wear his trademark balaclava face mask with his outfit in the movie.