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PROMETHEUS Goes Viral Again With Happy Birthday Video!!

The Kidd here...

20th Century Fox continues to build the viral campaign around PROMETHEUS with another video centered around the Weyland Corporation making its way online. This time we get more information about Michael Fassbender's David and his capabilities, and Fassbender seems to be fitting this role perfectly. It's spot-on in its mechanical coldness while also trying really hard to convey human emotions. Creepy yet brilliant.

-Billy Donnelly

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  • April 17, 2012, 8:13 a.m. CST

    So Excited for this

    by monkeygiles

    Can't come soon enough

  • April 17, 2012, 8:16 a.m. CST

    A.I. all grown up...hello David.

    by erniedouglas

  • April 17, 2012, 8:18 a.m. CST

    Very creepy

    by corplhicks

  • April 17, 2012, 8:19 a.m. CST

    Gotta admit it...pretty cool. Sounds like HAL...

    by Flyswatta

  • April 17, 2012, 8:19 a.m. CST

    Fully Functional?

    by Knocky


  • April 17, 2012, 8:19 a.m. CST


    by Johan

    But all I wanna know is "Where... they... are"

  • April 17, 2012, 8:21 a.m. CST

    Perfectly cast! I forgot he was a lead in 300.

    by dead youngling

  • April 17, 2012, 8:21 a.m. CST

    The tears...the creepy crocodile tears!

    by FlickaPoo


  • April 17, 2012, 8:22 a.m. CST


    by simongarth2001

    Just subtlety Brilliant. I am soooo looking forward this this.

  • April 17, 2012, 8:25 a.m. CST

    Will his accent inexplicably revert to Irish in the third act?

    by rev_skarekroe

    They're after me lucky charms, Professor X!

  • April 17, 2012, 8:25 a.m. CST

    What are those skull things in the background?

    by Flyswatta

  • April 17, 2012, 8:25 a.m. CST


    by kubricksnutsack

    Even the virals are good...

  • April 17, 2012, 8:27 a.m. CST

    Damn, I didn't know he was playing a robot...


    I take it they reveal that he's a robot right off the bat in this and that it's not going to be a plot twist?

  • April 17, 2012, 8:27 a.m. CST

    Nice. Very good casting if you ask me.

    by Can

  • April 17, 2012, 8:30 a.m. CST

    I never had a birthday.

    by Ye Not Guilty

  • April 17, 2012, 8:30 a.m. CST

    That is actually making me rethink Bishop

    by Robert Evans

    Was he as benign as he let on? He did have a lot of time to himself on LV426...

  • April 17, 2012, 8:33 a.m. CST

    Man! This is Going To Be Another Hit For Scott!

    by Real Deal

    This movie is shaping up nicely. I really think it'll be up there with his previous SF efforts. If there's one thing that this director understands really well it's Science Fiction.

  • April 17, 2012, 8:34 a.m. CST

    That was definitely cool, and creepy

    by Wcwlkr

    Especially when he was describing what made him sad. I like Michael Fassbender really good actor.

  • April 17, 2012, 8:35 a.m. CST

    Retro Look

    by J

    It almost looks like, to me, that they're trying to stick with the color scheme and over all look established in Alien. Almost like they're trying to make the future look about the same as they thought it would back in 1979? Jumpsuit design? That video game interface thing he's playing? Maybe I'm just looking too hard? I think too often though when a movie comes out that is in the same universe as one from many years ago the look totally changes as well as the feel,*coughstarwarscough*, and it kind of ruins it. I know the technology is better now and it's hard to not try and use it to it's full advantage but I think Scott is keeping the vibe close. Am I right? Or am I right? Right? Right? Right?

  • April 17, 2012, 8:37 a.m. CST

    powered by Verizon

    by Merrick

    Hope he works better than my friend's smart phone...

  • April 17, 2012, 8:37 a.m. CST

    jfisch, the shitty 70s looking formica paneling on the wall

    by FlickaPoo

    was making me think the same thing.

  • April 17, 2012, 8:38 a.m. CST

    damn, I'm impressed.

    by Simpsonian

  • April 17, 2012, 8:39 a.m. CST


    by Industrious Angel

    Bishop was played by Lance Henriksen ... how much more benign could he possibly get!?

  • April 17, 2012, 8:47 a.m. CST


    by XX


  • April 17, 2012, 8:48 a.m. CST

    Hello, I'm David...

    by buggerbugger

    Where are Rod, Jane and Freddy?

  • April 17, 2012, 8:49 a.m. CST

    Actually, although I like Fassbender....

    by borsky

    I thought this viral was a little forced, not subtle as somebody above mentioned. I hope the David character isn't quite so obvious in the movie, and I hope this isn't a pattern set for the movie as a whole. This sinister company overtones stuff has been done to death, and is getting a little boring.

  • April 17, 2012, 8:51 a.m. CST

    If this movie is anywhere near as awesome as the viral campaign

    by Brank Hud

    it will be awesome indeed. Fassbender and Pearce are VERY VERY good in these videos. I hope Rapace can keep up. We know Theron and Elba got the goods. This might be the movie we've been waiting for all these decades. As Tarantino put it once -- Every year, Hollywood puts out one or two movies that justify its existence. This might be one of those movies, and it's genre. I think the movie gods are about to smile on us.

  • April 17, 2012, 8:51 a.m. CST


    by Robert Evans

    The David in the vid is not necessarily the David in the film. He is a model and results may vary from one to the next. This one could be right out of the box and hasnt learned how to interact with humans. For a short, it worked and it gave me chills.

  • April 17, 2012, 9 a.m. CST

    Boner time.

    by Karl Childers

  • April 17, 2012, 9:03 a.m. CST


    by Karl Childers

    Same thoughts about the technology. I'd rather they keep it "retro" although I've seen some of fancier looking gadgets sneak into the trailers.

  • April 17, 2012, 9:04 a.m. CST

    He got an Indiana Jones action figure for his birthday

    by Logan_1973

    Haha...great vid. Loving this campaign.

  • April 17, 2012, 9:07 a.m. CST

    So David....Are you gay or just British?

    by cookylamoo

  • April 17, 2012, 9:09 a.m. CST


    by ripleysbushybush

    did the androids in the previous films have the weyland logo.?? Im worried there maybe some truth to the leaked script

  • April 17, 2012, 9:14 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    Very cool! I liked the styling as a company-made promotional reel, they captured it just right - with a slightly clunky retro feel. Great touches of detail too like the differently sized cubes of foam stuck to his face in the packaging and the branding on his fingerprint. Wonder if Ridley was involved in shooting these or whether it was farmed out after principal photography had completed?

  • April 17, 2012, 9:16 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    ripleysbushybush, according to Harry Knowles if you freeze frame ALIEN at exactly 67:22 you can clearly see the Weyland logo on Brian Cox's fingertip.

  • April 17, 2012, 9:16 a.m. CST

    Hal 9000

    by JamesT

    In human form.

  • April 17, 2012, 9:16 a.m. CST

    So DAVID = HAL ??

    by KilliK

    because that's the impression i am getting from these viral videos.

  • April 17, 2012, 9:16 a.m. CST


    by Brank Hud

    What about the Replicants? They had signatures, albeit at the microscopic level. Not that that means anything regarding the "leaked script" but still. It's consistent with Scott's world.

  • April 17, 2012, 9:16 a.m. CST

    Absolutely awesome!!!!!

    by luis prietO

    Makes the wait for this movie to come out harder and harder. I hope they will release more of the viral videos to appease the appetite for this movie!!!

  • April 17, 2012, 9:17 a.m. CST

    Is there a movie tie-in novelization coming out?

    by Karl Childers

    Embarrassingly enough, I have all of the 4 Alien ones.

  • April 17, 2012, 9:17 a.m. CST

    Hello I'm David

    by unparanoid_android

    Today I'm going to stick a rolled up magazine down Noomi Rapace's throat and then Idris Elba will decapitate me with a crowbar and I'll shower everyone in milky white semen blood. I AM SO FUCKING PUMPED FOR THIS. ANY DOUBTERS LEFT - PLEASE HEAD TO THE AIRLOCK AND PREPARE TO GET BLOWN THE FUCK INTO SPACE

  • April 17, 2012, 9:18 a.m. CST


    by JamesT

    You're a wise man sir. :) I mean come on, they named him David. Get it..

  • April 17, 2012, 9:18 a.m. CST


    by KilliK

  • April 17, 2012, 9:19 a.m. CST

    I just hope one of these androids gets ripped open again

    by Brank Hud

    and they still have those weird plastic balls and tubes inside, and all that milk. I just love android gore. Human gore is boring after awhile. More android gore!!

  • April 17, 2012, 9:20 a.m. CST

    @jamest heh,i am glad i am not the only one who noticed it.

    by KilliK

    great minds and all that. ;)

  • April 17, 2012, 9:21 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    That rolled up magazine down Ripley's throat thing kinda confused me when I first saw it, never heard of killing someone that way. Now Im wondering if it was more of a sex thing, after all Brian Cox did seem to be enjoying the skull fucking.

  • April 17, 2012, 9:27 a.m. CST


    by JamesT

    They obviously switched to AT&T when they started production on Ash's model.

  • April 17, 2012, 9:28 a.m. CST

    I think the magazine was a Penthouse or such-like

    by Brank Hud

    and it was a way of saying to a strong female character that males were dominant. They really went after the audience with this one.

  • April 17, 2012, 9:31 a.m. CST

    never understood why he went Irish at the end of X Men

    by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead

    they didn't film it in sequence, so what happened?

  • April 17, 2012, 9:32 a.m. CST

    Love the nod to Blad Runner's Replicants...

    by Cagliostro

    With the rotating head profile.

  • April 17, 2012, 9:33 a.m. CST

    @Erniedouglas - Not from A.I.

    by Bentley_Bear

    You can tie it but this is the 4th movie with a robot and they've been alphabetical in names. Ash, Bishop, Call, David.

  • The drawing

  • all 3 Transformers films, all 3 Star Wars Prequels, and damned near any other film you can think of over the last fucking decade. I hope they continue releasing these Weyland Ind.spots even after the fucking film...they are unsettling and oh so very real feeling and plausible. Love the little line about David being able to do things that humans may find Unethical...lmao

  • April 17, 2012, 9:42 a.m. CST


    by Jaster Mareel

    Oh my freeaking God.....FUCKING SPECTACULAR! I want to watch a whole movie about David now!

  • The line about performing tasks that humans might find unethical kinda blows that theory out of the water. I thought that Weyland might be a "good" corporation, interested primarily in exploration, and that Yutani was the "bad" corporation that corrupted Weyland through a hostile takeover. Damn.

  • April 17, 2012, 9:43 a.m. CST

    When the WI logo flashes on the screen

    by Brank Hud

    (just after the fingerprint moment) you can read the logo "David copyright registered trademark 2078 WI" So there's the likely setting. 100 years after the making of the first film.

  • April 17, 2012, 9:43 a.m. CST

    Creepy but.... effective

    by VAwitch

    It should be interesting to watch David's development over the course of the movie. Gah - this movie's gonna be a two-viewer, at least, since my TV/sound setup sucks at home.

  • April 17, 2012, 9:44 a.m. CST

    Is Ridley personally doing these?

    by Jaster Mareel

    Because they are spellbinding, particularly this one. A fucking genius director is putting this together and if it's not Ridley, then it is an up-and-comer of enormous magnitude.

  • April 17, 2012, 9:45 a.m. CST

    Shame DVD out now but not in stores?

    by Bodacious_Crumb

    Target nor BestBuy is carrying it. Is it because of the NC-17 rating? Ridiculous, if that's the case. They'll sell Unrated cuts but not this? For SHAME!!!

  • April 17, 2012, 9:47 a.m. CST


    by Bodacious_Crumb

  • April 17, 2012, 9:48 a.m. CST

    "isn't" carrying it..

    by Bodacious_Crumb

    Damn get with the times and put a fucking edit function on these talkbacks!!!! A time-out edit would work brilliantly!

  • April 17, 2012, 9:48 a.m. CST

    "aren't" carrying it....

    by Bodacious_Crumb

    FUCKING grammar policing myself too late.

  • April 17, 2012, 9:49 a.m. CST

    It's 10 am

    by Brank Hud

    That means it's time to go get liquor and watch Machete.

  • April 17, 2012, 9:49 a.m. CST

    @wrath_of_fett it's his son if i am not mistaken.

    by KilliK

  • April 17, 2012, 9:49 a.m. CST

    "or is it Target nor Bestbuy are carrying it"?

    by Bodacious_Crumb

    Methinks I have OCD with correcting myself. Please help.

  • April 17, 2012, 9:49 a.m. CST

    And we all just got to see the animation and menu screen for the blu ray

    by alienindisguise

  • Wow..the best viral campaign ive seen thus far, Mc fastbender is shaping up to be among our finest actors of this generation He knows how to truly "Disappear" into a role..even better he,s playing one of of my favorite villains Mags(one of them atleast i have many )..i generally root for the bad guys now a days since most writers don't know how to write hero's worth a shit anymore,though there are rare exceptions about 300: i loved when he,could no longer restrain himself in the presence of his General:"WE ARE WITH YOU SIRE!.FOR SPARTA, FOR FREEDOM! with that glint of love/fiery awe in his eyes. a true solder I can wait till i direct silver surfer hell be my Norrin Radd..just wait nerds.. p.s. did Tarantino's silver surfer screenplay ever leak?

  • April 17, 2012, 9:50 a.m. CST

    Agree about the retro look

    by VAwitch

    I think it's a smart move on Ridley's part - the majority of the audience, regardless how "hard core" an Alien fan they are, know this is taking place in the same universe, and I think most know it takes place chronilogically *before* Alien - so it cannot have too modern a look, otherwise it'll ruin the effect he's going for. Even my mom, who's only a casual SF fan, is looking forward to Prometheus.

  • April 17, 2012, 9:50 a.m. CST

    Absolutely mesmerizing!

    by mrplowking

    This could be the movie of the year. Finally, a real honest to god Alien film since 1986. It blows my mind!

  • April 17, 2012, 9:50 a.m. CST

    So in the upcoming Alien movies,

    by KilliK

    the next robot is going to be called Eve and the next after that one,will be called Friday.

  • It's going to be really creepy when the smoke monster takes over him.

  • April 17, 2012, 9:53 a.m. CST

    Scott's son

    by MrDexter

    Is directing them

  • April 17, 2012, 9:54 a.m. CST

    ugh..ridley scotts son

    by TheAwareness

  • April 17, 2012, 9:54 a.m. CST

    It's only a matter of time before Apple hits with its own "David."

    by Robert Evans

  • April 17, 2012, 9:54 a.m. CST

    8th Generation. Copyright 2078.

    by Royston Lodge

    Does that mean he's two generations better than the replicants from Blade Runner? ;-)

  • April 17, 2012, 9:54 a.m. CST

    when he says " emotional "

    by Richard

    Not sure why but when he says it at the end, with that expression its like he's dropping a hint. I'm probably looking into that too much but that was my first impression. It also scared me a little.

  • April 17, 2012, 9:57 a.m. CST

    Retro vs. Nuevo

    by Jaster Mareel

    Remember that the Nostromo was a space semi-truck rig. So they're going to have purely functional, but dirty and outdated materials. The technology in Prometheus can be more =shiny= because of that fact, though not more advanced because we can assume it takes place several decades if not a century before the events of Alien.

  • it lags.

  • April 17, 2012, 10:03 a.m. CST

    The Prometheus might be a newer model than the Nostromo.

    by Royston Lodge

    It's possible that The Prometheus is a newer, faster model than the Nostromo. Even though the Nostromo was launched first, it's possible that the Prometheus is so much faster that it arrives at the destination first. That also makes it possible that David is a newer model than Ash. It's also possible that the Nostromo was a Yutani ship before the companies merged, and that's why everything looks different.

  • April 17, 2012, 10:03 a.m. CST

    It's gonna be up with crazy

    by UltraTron

  • April 17, 2012, 10:04 a.m. CST


    by foree forehead

    yeah you nailed it for me, he looks a very good performer but the flower-sniffing head rotation is humanoid 101 from seemingly every other androidy movie. forced somewhat, i didn't get the sense of a robot trying to be human, i got the sense of a human trying to be a robot. hmm, is that the same thing maybe?? regardless it won't put me off seeing the movie.

  • April 17, 2012, 10:05 a.m. CST

    worthy..ill stop spaming now

    by TheAwareness

  • April 17, 2012, 10:07 a.m. CST

    yeah and that drips kubrick's 2001..

    by foree forehead

    ..all over the fucking place

  • April 17, 2012, 10:08 a.m. CST

    I'll say it again since it seems to be what they are advertising.

    by UltraTron

    David will become the bio-mechanical alien we all know and love. His synthetic DNA is probably polarized silicon like the alien's. The space jockey shit combines with him in unpredictable ways and we get aliens.

  • April 17, 2012, 10:09 a.m. CST

    This movie should feature a shuttle called the Bowman.

    by Royston Lodge

    Heh heh heh...

  • April 17, 2012, 10:11 a.m. CST

    Fucking awesome

    by jimmy_009

    This is what Sci-Fi is supposed to be. So good.

  • I agree that we're gonna see fantastically crazy new creatures develop, but I don't think it's gonna include the xenomorph, because it's already been confirmed that the planet in Prometheus isn't LV-426.

  • April 17, 2012, 10:11 a.m. CST

    excellent point royston

    by foree forehead

    never thought of that. nostromo could be trudging along in deep space while more advancements are being made to make faster ships. that would be cool and would explain the hi-tech design of prometheus (better than that "it's a science vessel, it should look more advanced" bollocks)

  • April 17, 2012, 10:15 a.m. CST

    I think my boner from this may just last until June...

    by ATARI

  • April 17, 2012, 10:15 a.m. CST

    Well it's good to know David isn't a Hyperdyne Systems 1282 model

    by photoboy

    Those fuckers were twitchy and didn't have any behavioural inhibitors.

  • I wonder how much of this is in the film. It's too good to be just a viral isn't it?

  • April 17, 2012, 10:18 a.m. CST

    creepiest part - the little "W" stamp on his 'skin'

    by smudgewhat

    perhaps b/c it suggests a few different things - like humanity being overrun by corporate interests. like they've literally stamped us like cattle (even though he's a robot, it's still a human actor playing the character). and yes, there's a bit of a HAL thing going on. which i have no problem with.

  • April 17, 2012, 10:18 a.m. CST

    Spok approves of this video...

    by F This

  • April 17, 2012, 10:19 a.m. CST

    Also, the Nostromo wasn't built for a single mission.

    by Royston Lodge

    It was a working ship that been out on mining missions all over the place. The mission to LV-426 was a deviation from its designated course. As such, we really have no idea how long it's been working out in space. The Nostromo could be much older than the Prometheus, which seems to have been purpose-built for this one mission. The only problem with this theory is that David seems so much more "robotic" than Ash did. If David is a newer model, you'd think he would be much more naturalistic. Maybe David is less "robotic" in the actual movie.

  • They never figured out why.

  • April 17, 2012, 10:21 a.m. CST

    And humping the feet of anyone who walked in the room

    by UltraTron

  • April 17, 2012, 10:21 a.m. CST

    simpsonian: Take the YouTube link, but change it to

    by Royston Lodge

    Like this: From there you can download a 1080p copy of the video.

  • April 17, 2012, 10:22 a.m. CST

    Reminds me of Apple...

    by Animorganimate

    ...consumers. You thought I was going to say Apple products or marketing, right? Nope. Anyone who buys Apple products are creepy, fucking robots without emotions or unprogrammed thoughts.

  • April 17, 2012, 10:25 a.m. CST

    Fassbender is this generation's Lawrence Olivier

    by AlienFanatic

    I really think the guy has insane range and a remarkable ability to capture the audience's interest. He will be at the forefront of acting for decades. I'd be very surprised if he doesn't start collecting Oscars with both hands in the next few years as directors flock to use him in virtually every project. Absolutely insane actor, imo, and I'm the kind of guy that can't stand most of today's actors.

  • there Have been rumors of this for of a year about the possibility of this,and im dieing to know if its true,i think it could look amazing , if its bunk i just want to know so can reset my expectations a bit

  • April 17, 2012, 10:27 a.m. CST

    He reminds me of a white Obama, especially with that phony tear.

    by BurnHollywood

  • April 17, 2012, 10:29 a.m. CST

    animorganimate: Hey, I resemble that remark!

    by Royston Lodge

    I have a Mac Mini hooked up to my flatscreen tv because it's compact size makes it a great addition to my home entertainment centre. I surf the web and check email from the couch, play all sorts of emulated games, and I got rid of cable cuz I can watch everything via iTunes. True, there are compact computers from other manufacturers, but I despise Windows, and Linux doesn't play well with iTunes. I'm in Canada, so I can't get VoD through Netflix or Amazon. iTunes is pretty much the only game in town up here.

  • April 17, 2012, 10:30 a.m. CST

    theawareness: I've read nothing about that rumour. Sorry.

    by Royston Lodge

  • a simple yea or nay would suffice.your input would be greatly appreciated .

  • April 17, 2012, 10:32 a.m. CST

    royston lodge

    by elsewhere

    For a newer generation, David sure seems like a step backward from a Replicant. Maybe that's the point? ...or Blade Runner and Alien aren't in the same universe. :-(

  • April 17, 2012, 10:33 a.m. CST

    I understand human emotion but cant feel them..

    by LowDevil

    Ash was pretty emotional. Wonder how David manifests his understanding of emotion.

  • April 17, 2012, 10:33 a.m. CST

    elsewhere: I was joking. I don't believe they're in the same universe.

    by Royston Lodge

  • April 17, 2012, 10:33 a.m. CST

    @Royston lodge:Thank you for being cool

    by TheAwareness

  • April 17, 2012, 10:34 a.m. CST

    Ash has to be a later model.

    by Robert Evans

    It appears that Weyland Co. was making nothing but Davids in the beginning, and then branched out once they got to the finest point of calibration. Look, it's no big deal that the Prometheus is *newer looking* than the Nostromo. It was a pet project of Weyland's from early on, according to the company timeline, and given that Vickers is apparently a big player in the company (and don't forget those brief images we see of an old man in a wheelchair on the Prometheus), it makes perfect sense that this crew would be flying around in a sleek machine. The Nostromo was made for grungier, more practical purposes, and it's likely been beat up and used for a while. And, yeah, it could be an older model than Prometheus, but there's no indication that Ash is anything but a later model of android from the company.

  • April 17, 2012, 10:34 a.m. CST

    theawareness: Gee whiz, man, have a little patience.

    by Royston Lodge

    Robots can only type so fast. Uh oh, I've said too much...

  • April 17, 2012, 10:39 a.m. CST

    ok borisdoris, spill it

    by smudgewhat

    i see david talking about how he thinks about robots, then i see his diagram. first thing i think of is that he's interested in proliferating himself. what would a robot construct want to do more than to create more robots, more life? yes?

  • April 17, 2012, 10:42 a.m. CST

    choppah: You're probably right about Ash.

    by Royston Lodge

    He coulda joined the Nostromo at a later date during a crew change. There's no reason that Ash has been with the Nostromo ever since it was first launched. The reason I WANT David to be a newer model, is because if David shares the same programming faults as Ash, why didn't they fix those problems BEFORE designing Ash? Why did they wait until the Bishop design to fix those faults? I suppose it's possible that the company doesn't become aware of the fault in David, and the fault only becomes know to the designers with the Ash model. It's also possible that the company, being evil, is aware of the fault but manufactures the model anyway. It's also possible that David doesn't share the same design flaw as Ash, and that the design flaw is specific to the Ash model. Maybe a different fault is identified in David, and as part of the fix for THAT fault a NEW fault is created in Ash. Or maybe they're made by different companies. I guess there really are all sorts of possible explanations.

  • we don't really know what the agenda of an artificial life form would be once we have created it. that's the whole dilemma. you can write all the code you want to 'control' an artificial life form, but what happens when the life form evolves and becomes much smarter than it's creator? at that point, all bets are off. this is where i hope Ridley is going. we humans think we've got all the answers and controls in place but A.I. (which is coming down the pipe pretty fast for real) will be unpredictable and therein lies both the great potential and great danger.

  • April 17, 2012, 10:49 a.m. CST

    Yeah, borisdoris, I don't get the significance of the drawing either.

    by Royston Lodge

    The drawing appears to be a design for a model city. It doesn't look like the design of the colony from Aliens, as there's no giant power station. What significance do you see in David drawing a city?

  • April 17, 2012, 10:51 a.m. CST

    Including the Rorschach drawings is a brilliant brain-fuck.

    by Royston Lodge

    How many geeks are going to drive themselves mad trying to interpret hidden meaning from those pictures? SLIDE ROR 77 - Children Playing SLIDE ROR 76 - Angel SLIDE ROR 75 - The Universe SLIDE ROR 78 - Robot I betcha dollars to doughnuts there's no hidden meaning. They're simply intended to fuck with us.

  • April 17, 2012, 10:54 a.m. CST

    Fucks sake..Enough with the Nostromo/Prometheus comparisons...

    by conspiracy

    Have you ever toured a modern Destroyer? Sleek, Organized, Surgically clean, efficient. Have you ever been on an Container Frieghter? Cramped, often dangerously disorganized, not always the cleanest vessels. YOu can't compare a Freighter to a cutting edge no expense spared Warship..or science vessel.

  • April 17, 2012, 10:54 a.m. CST

    smudgewhat: My counter-argument for that is Bishop.

    by Royston Lodge

    In Aliens, Bishop says that the design flaw has been repaired, and he doesn't end up going crazy. I suppose it's POSSIBLE that Bishop is simply a good person, and Ash was simply an asshole.

  • April 17, 2012, 10:56 a.m. CST

    Brother conspiracy!

    by Robert Evans

  • April 17, 2012, 11:01 a.m. CST

    it's just silly

    by foree forehead

    mother ran on what looked like a green-screen ibm mainframe (with keyboard buttons!). just absurd that "in the same universe" the prometheus, even if a highly-specialized prototype/one-off, would be so ridiculously advanced looking. if, indeed, it's a much older ship. takes me out of the universe before i've even watched the movie. so yeah, enough with that basic flaw already.

  • erm...Mandarin?! Ben Kingsley! "We know Chinese audiences love Iron Man. So we are going to add Chinese elements and a Chinese story into Iron Man 3," Disney's general manager for Greater China, Stanley Cheung, said.

  • April 17, 2012, 11:05 a.m. CST

    conspiracy: Yabbut, speculation about their launch dates adds to the story.

    by Royston Lodge

    Speculating about the Nostromo's launch date adds some fun speculation about the mystery elements to the story. Like, while Nostromo is out in deep space, how much information does it get back from Earth about current events? Does the Nostromo crew know about the Prometheus mission? Just how much information does the public have about the Prometheus mission? Does the Prometheus have a MOTHER-style computer on board? What are the circumstances leading to the Weyland/Yutani merger? Hostile takeover or mutual alliance? The idea that the Nostromo may have launched first really plays with concepts of technological and psychological difficulties of deep space exploration. It adds to the brain fuck that Ridley might be giving us.

  • the first movie was made decades ago with the available tech and thinking of the time. you can't go back and fix the inconsistencies unless you pull a George Lucas bastardization of the original film. so fuck that shit.

  • April 17, 2012, 11:17 a.m. CST

    ehh no smudgewhat

    by foree forehead

    but you could make the "older" ship in the new movie look, you know, a bit older.

  • April 17, 2012, 11:17 a.m. CST

    Get them to the shops in time for Christmas

    by Grace_Panda

  • April 17, 2012, 11:18 a.m. CST

    Thor Vs Iron Man..

    by Karl Childers

    ...scene is online at Comingsoon. I'll be coming soon.

  • April 17, 2012, 11:28 a.m. CST

    foree: The "age" of the vessel is highly relative.

    by Royston Lodge

    Because we're dealing with such vast distances and such long time-scales, the "age" of the vessels isn't necessarily related to the date they were launched. The Prometheus, presumably, was purpose-built for this one mission. It's brand-new when it meets up with the Space Jockey on this planet. Also, it looks like a small research vessel. Comparable to the sort of small ship that Bill Paxton uses at the beginning of Titanic. Even if the Nostromo was launched after the Prometheus, we don't know how long it's been out in space. It may have been out there for decades, or even more than a century. We know that 57 years goes by between Alien and Aliens, but we do not know how many years pass between Prometheus and Alien. That would give the Nostromo PLENTY of time to get banged up and grimy. The Prometheus might be destroyed before it has a CHANCE to get old. Also, if the Nostromo is designed to last a long time in hostile work environments, it's gonna be uglier. If the Prometheus is like the small research vessel from Titanic, the Nostromo is like a deep-sea oil drilling platform. And to those who say we shouldn't be worrying about this shit, I say that speculating about this sort of shit is a HUGE part of what makes good sci-fi movies so goddamned interesting!

  • April 17, 2012, 11:30 a.m. CST

    royston lodge...I can see the Time/Distance thing being a factor...

    by conspiracy

    but it does get silly when people nitpick about the "New" ship being cleaner and more Tech-y than Nostromo.

  • April 17, 2012, 11:35 a.m. CST

    agree royston

    by foree forehead

    the speculation it's fun to me, don't understand why others get bent. like i said, your comment about the nostromo being launched first and prometheus later would be my favorite solution. nostromo out there tooling around without refit also good. much better than the frigate vs. super-science sub argument

  • April 17, 2012, 11:35 a.m. CST

    fully functional and programmed in multiple techniques

    by Anthony Torchia

    We need a David vs. Data smackdown Well I need one anyway, dunno what you need Great, creepy video

  • Sir Ridley is taking them to fucking school a few minutes at a time.

  • ... Project Prometheus is under way in 2073.

  • ... and that gives me an opportunity to throw in my own genius speculative two cents! As such, I welcome silly nitpicking. Without it, these talkbacks would only be five comments long.

  • Nostromo had likely been running for many years with crews other than Dallas'. I daresay the vessel might have pre-dated Project: Prometheus, which is a good 30-odd years prior to Alien. But Ash was a last minute addition to the crew to enact Special Order 937, and he was covert. None of them knew he was synthetic. Contrast that to 57 years later, in Aliens - Bishop's place on the Sulaco was "standard procedure". At the time of Alien, one can easily conclude, synthetics had not been quite so prevalent in every aspect of our interstellar workforce - at least, not commercial mining.

  • He had certainly developed his kind of psychosexual dementia by the end, as any being could - but his murderous drive came from his programming.

  • People gotta have somethin' to bitch about. Me, I'm thrilled beyond words that we are finally getting a NEW. FREAKING. ORIGINAL. SCI-FI. FILM. And it gets even BETTER!!! It is set in the ALIEN UNIVERSE. And it GETS EVEN BETTER STILL!!! IT'S BY RIDLEY SCOTT!!!!!!!!!!! Some people are thankless morons.

  • April 17, 2012, 11:45 a.m. CST

    choppah: Thanks. I didn't know we had a date for Alien.

    by Royston Lodge

    That's also sorta helps us roughly figure out the distances involved, if we assume the ships don't go much faster than the speed of light.

  • April 17, 2012, 11:45 a.m. CST

    here's my problem with Nostromous tech vs. Prometheus

    by smudgewhat

    To me, that's the LEAST interesting thing about a movie like this. The ramifications of what artificial intelligence is going to mean for real life humanity is way more interesting to me. I mean you can certainly talk about whatever you like but I'd much rather here more speculation about the David character and what his motives might be. That's just me.

  • April 17, 2012, 11:47 a.m. CST

    reflecto FTW.

    by Royston Lodge

    I bow to your superior knowledge. ;-)

  • I will bet good money that David is made with some of Weyland's genetic material, and that his confidential directive will be tied to the fact that he's programmed to see Weyland as his god/father figure.

  • We can figure out rough guesses about ships' ages and distances and timelines from the information we have so far. It's not nearly as easy to guess much about character motivations without more information than what we have in these virals. I've watched the David video in 1080p several times. Here's what I get from it: - David is programmed to perform tasks humans might find unethical. - David is programmed to lie. He SAYS that "war, pain, suffering" make him "sad", and he even sheds a tear, but then he admits that he cannot FEEL the emotion of sadness. Therefore, he's lying when he says suffering makes him sad. - David is designed to infiltrate a human workforce undetected. He's designed to spy on the plebs. Personally, I preferred it when I thought Ash was merely malfunctioning. I think the idea that David is DESIGNED to be "ethically-questionable" takes something away from the story.

  • April 17, 2012, 11:57 a.m. CST

    The Weyland timeline is rich with *between the lines* info.

    by Robert Evans

    There's mention of a Peter Weyland Memorial something or other, but no mention of Weyland's death, even though his birth and many achievements are mentioned.

  • Kurzweil is trying to live long enough to become 'immortal.' He believes that once we can reverse engineer the human brain (via nanotech) then we can create a working digital copy. and once you are at that stage, then you can 'copy' an analog human's brain and save it in the digital realm, thereby preserving the original intelligence of the human. so that future A.I. shares 'human values and experience.' Kurzweil strikes me as a fairly benign figure, but i can see a Weyland come along whose intent would be something more grandiose, or possibly sinister in the quest to avoid death.

  • April 17, 2012, 12:04 p.m. CST

    choppah, i like where you're going with that

    by smudgewhat

    where did you read that David was supposed to be Weyland's son's name? i don't know that i've heard that before. i do think there's a possibility that david shares genetic material with his creator. so that the creator really thinks of it as an extension of himself. another stab at immortality perhaps.

  • April 17, 2012, 12:04 p.m. CST

    When they reboot Batman.......

    by KongMonkey

    This guy should be cast as the Joker. Gotta creepy fucking smile to 'em, always deviant looking. Should be able to pull off that sociopathic madness the clown prince of crime is renown for. Come to think of it, what whould a Ridly Scott Batman film be like?

  • April 17, 2012, 12:08 p.m. CST

    re: whether david can feel emotion

    by smudgewhat

    this was also one of the fascinating key Galactica concepts. whether an artificial lifeform that is self-aware is capable of actual emotion or not. i tend to believe that when actual A.I. comes into existence that A.I. lifeforms will eventually claim to have feelings. even if the first feeling is the fear of being turned off and dismantled. from there, what other 'feelings' might evolve unexpectedly from all that intelligence? possibly a desire to emulate its own creators and create more life. or to seek new knowledge in order to continue to evolve. would the 'desire' of an A.I. to evolve override any directives or responsibilities it might feel to protect its creators, or could an A.I. become selfish?

  • April 17, 2012, 12:08 p.m. CST

    reflecto: The David model's face would be easily changed.

    by Royston Lodge

    They don't need a whole new model generation just to change the thing's face.

  • April 17, 2012, 12:08 p.m. CST

    Royston, that link is awesome, thanks so much

    by Simpsonian

    I thought for sure it was going to be a porn site or rickroll or something. never heard of it before. thanks!!

  • I'm curious how Ash's model name compares to David's.

  • April 17, 2012, 12:10 p.m. CST

    simpsonian: I exist only to serve my human creators.

    by Royston Lodge

  • What Bishop tells Ripley - from an uninformed position on his part - was an innocent assumption, but also the obvious Company line. Bishop knows nothing of Ash's Special Order.

  • April 17, 2012, 12:14 p.m. CST

    Guy Pearce and Michael Fassbender DO have similar facial structures.

    by Robert Evans

    It would be plausible if they played *relatives.*

  • April 17, 2012, 12:14 p.m. CST


    by Blue_Demon

    Good call about Fassbender being a new Olivier. He certainly has that vibe about him. Man...I cannot WAIT!!

  • April 17, 2012, 12:15 p.m. CST

    About the ships tech:

    by Ron Batchelor

    Why couldn't it simply be that the Nostromo is an older ship than the Prometheus thats still in service 50 years later. It doesn't have to get into the speed of the ships at all to explain Prometheus getting there first. Nostromo simply wasn't on the same mission (as in Alien) when Prometheus was launched.

  • April 17, 2012, 12:16 p.m. CST

    My theory

    by nikem3

    Blue looking man in the beginning of the trailer is on a distinct planet, gets a virus, tries to send out a warning, Virus mutates eventually evolves into xenomorphs ( big things have small beginnings) sits in chair thing(he is space jockey, the thing he is sitting in is sort of like the greek mythology of prometheus, he is strapped to a rock while an eagle.. well in this case a xenomorph eats through his stomach) Virus mutates eventually evolves into xenomorphs ( big things have small beginnings) We end up going there and learning its not an invitation. Idk thats what I got so far, just an idea, not sure how dumb or smart is sounds but i tried.

  • April 17, 2012, 12:20 p.m. CST

    can't remember the last time I was looking forward to a movie this much

    by Jaster Mareel

    Batman Begins and The Dark Knight come close. Oh I know, The Phantom Menace! I remember thinking that I wanted to see that movie so badly that I was afraid I would get hit by a truck or something the day before it hit theaters.

  • April 17, 2012, 12:23 p.m. CST

    reflecto: You have persuaded me about Ash.

    by Royston Lodge

    I surrender. According to Ash's Wikipedia entry, "it is later discovered that Ash is not human at all, as he appears, but is in fact a Hyperdyne Systems 120-A/2." So, unless Hyperdyne is a Weyland subsidiary, Ash is made by a different company, and he isn't really a later version of the David android. Maybe there's a law passed between Alien and Aliens that outlaws covert androids, or maybe the company was acting illegally by placing a covert android on board the Nostromo. Maybe Bishop is loyal to the crew instead of being loyal to the company because the Sulaco is a military vessel instead of a company ship, so Bishop's programming is controlled by the military, not by Weyland-Yutani. That might be why they have to send Paul Reiser's character along to supervise the mission.

  • April 17, 2012, 12:25 p.m. CST

    The Nostromo vs. Prometheus argument

    by Jaster Mareel

    I have to think that is crap because for one thing, the Nostromo is on its way BACK to Earth when it stops at LV-426. It has been doing a long space haul tour. I'm assumign they've been out at least a year, maybe 2. Of course since they've been in cryosleep it could have been longer. In any event it doesn't make sense that it would take them 50 fricken' years to go to LV-426 and if they did, what is the liklihood that whatever they're hauling would even be relevant let alone remembered by anyone?

  • April 17, 2012, 12:27 p.m. CST

    We don't KNOW that David is mass-produced. He might be a prototype.

    by Royston Lodge

    The video might be a promotional video (like the ones Honda makes for Asimo) for technology that's not yet on sale, rather than a commercial for a product one can actually buy.

  • It has, after all, been thirtysomething years between Prometheus and Alien. I don't believe Ash is a later model of David, per se, but I'm sure David was the pioneering progenitor of many other synthetic humans including Ash and Bishop. Ash was more immediately and believably human than the Davids we have seen thus far - David 8's affect is very mannered by comparison. Ash was able to pass among humans, and fool the audience until the third act of Alien. Bishop could have done the same. The implication given both in Cameron's background work on Aliens and in the Prometheus timeline/viral materials is that the "Colonial Marines" of Aliens sprung out of the huge mega-conglomerates colonizing outward into the galaxy and needing a peacekeeping force that was born out of the melded military-industrial complex. Hence, yes, the Marines we got to know were policing colonies and worlds under the purview of companies like Weyland-Yutani. The Bishop we know and love was a benign model because he was stationed on Sulaco to assist the Colonial Marine outfit aboard with their operations. He was never programmed for any kind of malevolent, life-threatening behaviors.

  • April 17, 2012, 12:31 p.m. CST

    wrath_of_fett: They're a mining ship, so they're probably hauling ore.

    by Royston Lodge

    Presumably, they're hauling a metric SHITLOAD of ore, to make it economically worthwhile. No matter how much technology advances while they're away, the Earth will still need ore. Gotta build spaceships and robots outta SOMETHING, right? Heck, maybe they're hauling Unobtanium from Pandora! ;-)

  • April 17, 2012, 12:31 p.m. CST

    Shouldn't his tears have been white?

    by topaz4206

    Or is it just their blood that's white?

  • April 17, 2012, 12:33 p.m. CST

    Yeah, Hyperdine could well be a *hidden* subsidiary of the big Company.

    by Robert Evans

    A way to hide their more covert creations.

  • Presumably, they don't actually serve a functional purpose, like lubricating his eyeballs. As such, they'll be designed to resemble human tears as closely as possible. I bet they taste like Gatorade.

  • Fastbender would destroy as OLD Joker.Can you even imagine him doing that death scene when batman breaks his neck in three places?

  • April 17, 2012, 12:37 p.m. CST

    Shit, I haven't been to the weyland industries web site in a while.

    by Royston Lodge

    I didn't realize that they've added so much new stuff. Anybody have the "secret access code"?

  • April 17, 2012, 12:37 p.m. CST

    Powered by Verizon... ROFL!!!!

    by gotilk

    No but seriously, this was over-the-top creepy. In a good way. The tears at first made me feel slightly sad, then they creeped me the hell out. Yeah, even still.... I cannot wait until this kind of thing becomes a reality. Because when I turn 93, I want to move into one of those and live a few centuries longer to see where it all goes from there. Not forever... no. I've changed my mind on that desire. Just a few centuries will be fine. And if I change my mind, I can always shut down for a few centuries, back myself up and see what happens even later on. Wake up and meet some aliens. Or a few alien-human hybrids. Some alien-human-android hybrids. Perhaps a few insectoid-android-alien-human or even insectiod-android-alien NON human hybrids. *sigh* The real future is dinky.

  • April 17, 2012, 12:39 p.m. CST

    Nobody in their right mind wants to live forever.

    by Royston Lodge

    Who would want to survive the heat death of the Universe, floating in an unchanging void for all eternity?

  • I hope Ridley lets David off the chain and we have a robot v alien smack down!

  • April 17, 2012, 12:45 p.m. CST

    My problem with this...

    by adeceasedfan

    Is nothing b/c it looks AMAZING!! Awesome viral btw.

  • April 17, 2012, 12:46 p.m. CST


    by foree forehead

    ship vs. ship tech pretty uninteresting to me too believe me - just seems a glaringly obvious hole, upon first impressions. ai falls quite far down the list too - the whole search for uncaring alien god thing is more up my alley

  • April 17, 2012, 12:46 p.m. CST

    good point royston

    by smudgewhat

    unless of course being an immortal inorganic creation allows you to figure out a way how to prevent all the suns in the universe from dying. perhaps once A.I. is subatomic the universe will give up some of its fundamental secrets. or perhaps not. me personally, i don't need to live forever. i like the idea of mortality forcing one to live more deliberately, with greater focus and intention. and making sure you have a lot of fucking fun before it's all over!

  • April 17, 2012, 12:48 p.m. CST

    So David8 has 7 emotions..

    by LowDevil

    but can also go 'neutral'. That in itself is scary. I also wonder why 1 emotion has been kept from us? Which one? This film isnt only the most anticipated, but is also the most interesting and mysterious and the small elements of horror make it a top must of 2012. Fuck the Avengers

  • who's to say that, much like kubrick's '2001' that aliens seeded this planet for life? but just because they're aliens doesn't mean that they're organic. AI could evolve to a point where the argument between whether they have achieved a god-like status is almost indistinguishable from being god. it's certainly a debatable area, and that definitely interests me.

  • April 17, 2012, 12:54 p.m. CST

    Are we taking it too literally?

    by gotilk

    When they say *unethical*, there are long lists of activities that are not even remotely nefarious (to most) yet humans still PERFORM in spite of some deeper ethical distaste for such things. Slaughtering? Prostitution? Marketing? Interrogation? Sales? Public Relations? Criminal Defense? Prison Therapist? Human Resources? Social Networking? Fishing/Whaling/Hunting? Reality TV Producer? Crowd Control? Private Security? Political Strategist? Bouncer? Game Show Host? (okay, maybe that one is for a laugh) I'm sure you probably think some of those are intended to be funny or something. I assure you I am dead serious. Rly. I'm not fully convinced he's actually *ethically questionable*. I think he is, instead, a sort of ethical human stand-in, there to do jobs that we would still DO if we didn't have androids to do them FOR US. Do you see where I'm going with that? Nothing yet makes me think that he could not be trusted. Only that he is simply doing things for us that we dislike on some ethical level, that we would STILL DO anyway. That entire list, above... and probably more. But I think my list is sufficient to make my point.

  • April 17, 2012, 12:55 p.m. CST

    Elizabeth Shaw will give birth to Cthulhu.

    by Robert Evans

  • No friggen way. Reminds me of Down and Out In The Magic Kingdom also... that wording.

  • April 17, 2012, 12:58 p.m. CST

    "angels", the skulls, and potential plot points

    by starbuck2907

    In the clip above, "Angels" are referenced. Rapace said that she dreamed about "God, the Devil, and black Angels" in a recent interview. here: There's going to be some religious or creationism references in the film...can't wait. And what the hell are those skulls behind Fassbender? Here is a bit of speculation about the plot based on some interviews that I've read: I also strongly feel that the plot will involve time travel, with the end of the film taking place in a past historical time, potentially on earth or another planet, but that's just speculation. As I said, I've read some interviews were time is mentioned, although time "travel" in the traditional sci-fi sense is not specifically mentioned.

  • Our trucks would be really good for running down pedestrians. We know you'd NEVER use one of our trucks for that purpose, but isn't it nice to know you COULD?

  • April 17, 2012, 1:02 p.m. CST

    It's Tentacle Tuesday??

    by gotilk


  • April 17, 2012, 1:02 p.m. CST

    David8 up on Twitter

    by MasterControlProgram

    I just found David8 on Twitter. @David8Weyland FYI -- End of Line --

  • April 17, 2012, 1:03 p.m. CST

    royston lodge

    by gotilk

    Hahaha! Touche.

  • April 17, 2012, 1:04 p.m. CST

    If you look close at the skulls, they're clearly artificial.

    by Royston Lodge

    They're android skulls, put into the promo video to impress a prospective buyer with the equipment that's "under the hood". It's also, presumably, a bit of a Giger hat-tip.

  • April 17, 2012, 1:06 p.m. CST

    smudgewhat ai/god

    by foree forehead

    yea they could intertwine which would be, if done well, very cool. i'm still peeling away layers of 2001 after all these years. probably my favorite movie if i'm pressed to pick one. although again, the murderous borderline sentient computer doesn't do it for me quite the same way dave bowman stepping out into the void does. just fantastic. a small gripe? i guess i hoped prometheus would be a bit more slow-paced and cerebral (for lack of a better word) - perhaps better if i say i would love a movie that ends up asking more questions than it conveniently answers. not a sci-fi thriller because we've already got that. having not seen the movie of course, it's not really fair to have this bias i guess.

  • But they always have the "closed course, professional driver" disclaimer at the bottom of the screen. The David promo video would be better if there was some fine print at the bottom to define what they mean by "unethical". Please ensure that your use of David complies with all local laws and regulations.

  • April 17, 2012, 1:12 p.m. CST

    screw you guys, id love to live forever..

    by TheAwareness

    think about all the things in life we never reach to become because of our short life spans..its pretty much a ticket to become anything your mind can conjure,because you have the "time" to figure out how to achieve it, luminous beings are practically learn how to manipulate atoms thru shear force of will.A true self made god,creating a new body for myself in the process that can withstand the riggers of space travel,flight without needing a vessel to travel in, powers ETC.every humans fantasy within your grasp, ..whatever you can dream of.Death and the fear of it, impedes our evolution in so many ways,its a fucking scam i tell ya.

  • April 17, 2012, 1:14 p.m. CST

    I just realized that list I wrote above would make

    by gotilk

    a hilarious late night ad for a cheap, private trashy college. Begin a new future at: Prometheus University! (Now in Hayward!) Choose from degrees in: Slaughtering? Prostitution? Marketing? Interrogation? Sales? Public Relations? Criminal Defense? Prison Therapist? Human Resources? Social Networking? Fishing/Whaling/Hunting? Reality TV Producer? Crowd Control? Private Security? Political Strategist? Bouncer? Bartender? Courier? Apply online now and begin your journey into the ancient caves of SUCCESS!

  • April 17, 2012, 1:16 p.m. CST

    theawareness: It's only worthwhile if you can break the laws of physics.

    by Royston Lodge

    The only way it's possibly worthwhile is if you can break the laws of thermodynamics, thereby PREVENTING the heat death of the Universe.

  • April 17, 2012, 1:17 p.m. CST


    by gotilk

    I get it. I get it. Just not really convinced there's such a thing as *forever* quite yet. The concept is...... shit.. incomprehensible ..

  • April 17, 2012, 1:17 p.m. CST

    here's another new angle on the 'immortality' subject

    by smudgewhat

    what if we're in fact already living in a virtual reality?

  • April 17, 2012, 1:17 p.m. CST

    Hey look! It's DATA.

    by CimmerianWarrior

  • April 17, 2012, 1:19 p.m. CST

    and if we are in fact living in a virtual reality

    by smudgewhat

    we might need to 'die' in order for our intelligence to survive the 'game.' as in, you die, then you 'wake up' on the other side in the place or space where the reality was created. or you 'wake up' with your creator saying 'nice job, you did pretty well. ready for a new game? or care perhaps to create your own reality now?'

  • April 17, 2012, 1:20 p.m. CST

    David is already more advanced than Data. David uses contractions.

    by Royston Lodge


  • ask Dan Akyriod,heal tell ya lol

  • April 17, 2012, 1:22 p.m. CST


    by KilliK

  • April 17, 2012, 1:22 p.m. CST

    um... isn't Royston Lodges explanation a given? Or at least

    by alexander

    I thought that's what we were all supposed to assume or presume since learning about this crew and their mission? To be clear: Nostromo sets of way way before (Ripley has no daughter in Alien right? That's correct isn't it? Experiencing insomnia and anxiety/rage over my tenancy right now, so a little fuzzy perhaps) and Prometheus later, with a state of the art high financed ship. I also thought from the evidence were spose to presume that as Chop points out, David is connected as the 'genesis' model of sorts by being more than an 'adopted' son to Weyland, and if we understand Vickers from the trailer is harbouring some body, well go figure/presume... That's been my impression anyway.

  • Oh no, not again.

  • April 17, 2012, 1:23 p.m. CST

    smudgewhat google "dmt: the spirit molecule"

    by foree forehead

    ..if you're not already familiar with the subject. fascinating stuff...

  • April 17, 2012, 1:23 p.m. CST

    continued:this phase of our existance in.

    by TheAwareness

  • April 17, 2012, 1:25 p.m. CST

    Speaking of the universe,a Theorist Physicist discovered

    by KilliK

    data error correction algorithms in his Superstring is a link announcing his discovery: creepy stuff.

  • April 17, 2012, 1:25 p.m. CST

    alan_grant_lives: Nah, it's just a theory.

    by Royston Lodge

    Another perfectly valid explanation could just be that Alien was made in 1979 and that's what spaceships looked like in 1979.

  • April 17, 2012, 1:26 p.m. CST


    by gotilk

    I like that concept. A twist on the idea that *any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic*. Instead... *Any simulation at a high enough resolution is indistinguishable from reality.* Or. IS reality. Because perception is 9/10ths of the law. Oh wait... Something like that. I'm waiting for Virtual Realty. That's where you put on goggles and you *date* strippers, drive a red Mustang, pretend to have plastic hair, get dental implants and wear cheap suits. I've always thought it'd be cool to see my face on a bus stop bench. C'm'ere dream... give me a hug.

  • April 17, 2012, 1:28 p.m. CST

    Doing unethical work = Fucking you with a strap-on in your ass.

    by KilliK

    David is also a sexbot.but you cant say that in an advertisement.leave it for the costumer to figure it out.

  • April 17, 2012, 1:30 p.m. CST

    -YES...YES...YES -Is my thrust power sufficient for you,sir?

    by KilliK

    -no dammit,faster and harder.YEEEEES.give it all to daddy,little David.

  • Before you know it, Snooki was born.

  • April 17, 2012, 1:32 p.m. CST

    ahh we were having a nice discussion

    by foree forehead

    and just look what happened!

  • April 17, 2012, 1:32 p.m. CST

    @foree, and "DMT"

    by smudgewhat

    yep yep, interesting stuff. am perusing an article right now. my life experiences have convinced me there is something quite extraordinary about this existence, this reality. i definitely don't feel that death is the end of my intelligence, though i feel there is no definitive 'proof' either in favor of my position or against it. which is kind of beautiful in that the mystery is maintained. or at least until i die. but who knows, maybe that's not even when the veil gets lifted? maybe ya just end up in yet ANOTHER reality whose authenticity can neither be proved or disproved. or maybe god hands you a fantastic cosmic beer and you talk about how he/she/it/they came up with the whole thing.

  • April 17, 2012, 1:34 p.m. CST

    that model was always a bit "twitchy"

    by the Green Gargantua

  • April 17, 2012, 1:34 p.m. CST

    and yes, Reflecto is correct I believe

    by alexander

  • April 17, 2012, 1:34 p.m. CST

    foree forehead: Yeah, I call it argumentum ad fudgepackum.

    by Robert Evans

  • You must have had way more interesting life experiences.

  • April 17, 2012, 1:37 p.m. CST

    That was extraordinarily good.

    by Lacloake

    Just that very slight blink and twitch as he answered questions, like he's spinning through an internal databank of responses to pick out the correct one... Chills....

  • April 17, 2012, 1:37 p.m. CST

    i'm checking out that string theory link kilik posted

    by foree forehead

    before he started bangin on about that ... other stuff. am readin a book on tarkovsky's "stalker" at the moment and there's a quote attributed to someone in there that goes something like "the remarkable thing about our reality is there's another reality implicit within it." like we can almost grasp the hidden meaning, we are so close..! but no.

  • April 17, 2012, 1:38 p.m. CST

    sorry to hear that royston. yeah, i've seen some crazy crazy stuff

    by smudgewhat

    i feel like Roy Batty sometimes. actually, i'm writing a book about it! might be finished later this year. not sure if i will actually publish it b/c it sometimes read like straight up madness. but to me it makes perfect sense.

  • That's what you dont get most of you clueless fanboys. THE NOSTROMO DESIGN WAS SERVING A SPECIFIC ARTISTIC NEED OF THE MOVIE. What was that artistic need you say? Simple. To turn the Nostromo from a cargo ship into a shadowy,claustrophobic =prison= where the crew is trapped together with the most deadly alien organism in the known galaxy. That's what Ridley was aiming with that art design of the ship,he wanted to create the perfect playground for his alien pet and its unfortunate victims in order to scare the shit out of the movie audience. IF he wanted to make a complete futuristic ship ala 2001,then he would use a complete different ship desing,more modern,more futuristis BUT this is not what the Alien movie was about now,isn't it?

  • peace..

  • April 17, 2012, 1:40 p.m. CST

    yep gotlik

    by smudgewhat

    i like the way you've expressed it: *Any simulation at a high enough resolution is indistinguishable from reality.*

  • April 17, 2012, 1:46 p.m. CST

    Directed by Johnny Hardstaff

    by Ivor Heath

    according to the RSA website, the Guy Pearce TED talk was directed by Luke Scott. I understand there's more of these character virals to come over the next few weeks, one for the Charlize Theron character, one for Noomi and another possibly Idris Elba.

  • April 17, 2012, 1:52 p.m. CST

    Why I dislike the "reality as simulation" theory.

    by Royston Lodge

    It contradicts the "uncanny valley" theory of artificial human likenesses. If it's theoretically possible to create a simulation that is truly indistinguishable from reality, that means it's theoretically possible to bridge the uncanny valley. Not saying it isn't true. Just sayin' I don't like it. The theory of the uncanny valley is strangely comforting, after all.

  • It was many, MANY gigabytes worth of MP3 files, so I didn't bother downloading it. Still curious about it though...

  • April 17, 2012, 1:59 p.m. CST

    If a tree falls in the woods, and the pope isn't wearing his funny hat,

    by Robert Evans

    will a bear be there to shit on it?

  • April 17, 2012, 2 p.m. CST

    DETENTION may well be a good movie, but ...

    by Robert Evans

    ... I'll never fucking see it because of that goddamn popup ad.

  • April 17, 2012, 2:01 p.m. CST


    by gotilk

    That's precisely why I think the pursuit of actual time travel will eventually be completely abandoned. FAR, FAR before we even approach understanding how we would even approach time travel, we will be producing simulations of the past and future so perfect, so accurate and so detailed that actual time travel will be completely pointless. We'll say... *why bother*? I just shot Oswald and I'm heading out to see the Beatles at Shea Stadium tomorrow. Did it change the present? Well, I'll check in a while. And if I prefer that outcome, I'll just live inside that *overlay* for a few years. Or until I find some better outcome. Simulated reality engineering is the wave of...... the now.... then. Or maybe it is already. We're just in the simulation WITHOUT time travelers and aliens.

  • April 17, 2012, 2:02 p.m. CST

    I'm well excited to see Promethius

    by D o o d

    but their viral movies are not very good!

  • April 17, 2012, 2:02 p.m. CST

    choppah: Does a polar bear shit in the jungle?

    by Royston Lodge

  • April 17, 2012, 2:03 p.m. CST


    by gotilk

    We should co-write a novel.

  • April 17, 2012, 2:03 p.m. CST

    royston: i do think the uncanny valley will be bridged

    by smudgewhat

    but actually, i think humans are gonna merge with their tech first. or at the same time. and i believe i've read that they've already discovered the organic materials work even better than synthetic in terms of signal transmission. so the debate over what constitutes life will get more complex as we go. SHIT IS GONNA GET CRAZY real soon. hahahahahaa

  • April 17, 2012, 2:07 p.m. CST

    wish i could take that offer gotlik

    by smudgewhat

    i'm already going nuts trying to figure out how to finish the book, plus another CD of music (i'm working on my 8th), and then have a 'life' too. i need a clone to help me out with my interests. of course that fucker would probably turn on me and cook up his own interesting shit.

  • April 17, 2012, 2:11 p.m. CST

    I think your underestimating your theory Royston

    by alexander

    About the reason for the differences in look/tech anyway... The alternative is SPECULATIVE SPOILER this david progenitor for the human race in a time loop lays down the word of God in scripture soes that weyland in the new genesis is a bit less of a hasty basterd along with the rest of humanity leading up to himself, and then Nostonimo becomes... Just a bit ridiculous... Way more than Ridely going Naaa fuck it with the continuity in the Alien Universe, fuck that noise! And so I concur and have since all we've learnt from synopsis/trailers that yours is the most likely exlanation... Unless Ripley is actually supposed to have a daughter in Alien (she's not right?)... What kind of messed up future of humanity is that where your daughter has to go in stasis with urself concurrently or perhaps never see you again? Well that would be one where citing that origional giger jockey drawing Ridley etc loved viral ridden Vickers could end up virally seducing Jockey from his intended purpose on landing and birthing the Queen as fanboys/girls who love Aliens too and desperately want it to be included in this canon love to seculate on. I doubt it. But we'll see. And to be clear: for christsakes - if I end up eating my words fine - but of course Ash is not 'malfunctioning', well not untill they start hitting him very hard and take his head off anyway. Isn't the scene where Ripley investigates Mothers protocol supposed to have always confirmed this? Anyway, I'm getting overstimulated. Can't frickin wait! Well I can, cos the harpy who owns my building of residency jacked my computer and its gonna take a while to be able to afford all the goodness this summer.

  • April 17, 2012, 2:14 p.m. CST

    This guy is fucking perfect for the role!

    by HB_Dad

    He kind of reminds me of Morena Baccarin's "Anna" on the now cancellled "V" in his character acting.

  • They have a lot to cover and lots of interesting elements I want to have lots of time exploring. Fuck I can't wait for this!

  • April 17, 2012, 2:17 p.m. CST

    Royston Lodge

    by Andy

    Not sure how the androids and Blade Runner replicants can be in the same universe - internally the androids are full of white gunk, whereas replicants are indistinguishable from humans (hence the need for the Voight-Kampf test)

  • April 17, 2012, 2:21 p.m. CST

    haha mourinho

    by foree forehead

    one nil bayern. there's a fuckin spoiler for ye

  • April 17, 2012, 2:21 p.m. CST

    alan_grant_lives: Ripley's daughter is from a deleted scene in Aliens.

    by Royston Lodge Presumably, space mining must pay REALLY well if a young mother (with the skills necessary to qualify for a mission on an interstellar spaceship) is willing to sign up for a two-year stint.

  • April 17, 2012, 2:22 p.m. CST

    thingymajig: I'm not SAYING they're in the same universe!

    by Royston Lodge

    It was a freakin' joke!!! Sigh. ;-)

  • April 17, 2012, 2:24 p.m. CST

    One thing's for sure, I'm gonna hafta rewatch Alien and Aliens...

    by Royston Lodge

    ... with a legal pad on my lap so I can take notes.

  • I also always liked to believe Avatar took place in the same universe as Alien/Aliens, but that's me and my bullshit.

  • The notes have supposedly been reproduced on the Alien Anthology bluray set (which I have), but on there there's also James Cameron's dossiers on the Nostromo from the inquest scene in Aliens - not all of the info matches on each and some of them may have been altered since.

  • April 17, 2012, 2:30 p.m. CST

    new viral footage of the less successful earlier model Michael-6,

    by Ivor Heath

    he had his own daytime talk show, and a slight tendency to malfunction and attack his guests or members of the audience---

  • Maybe Doctor Tyrell licenses Weyland's patents? I would love to see a bunch of Predators hunting Naavi.

  • And no, I never believed Weyland was the only company making synthetics. Only the first, perhaps.

  • April 17, 2012, 2:44 p.m. CST

    Too bad they didn't have Roy Batty on board the Nostromo.

    by Royston Lodge

    He woulda shown that Alien bitch who's boss!

  • April 17, 2012, 2:44 p.m. CST

    I don't trust Milk-Bots

    by Atkinson

    Ever since one tried to force-feed Ripley a back issue of the Weekly Standard.

  • April 17, 2012, 2:48 p.m. CST

    Does that mean the cat in Alien is a robot?

    by Royston Lodge

    In Blade Runner, real animals are too expensive.

  • April 17, 2012, 2:49 p.m. CST

    Links to other David viral stuff:

    by Robert Evans Stuff was leaked to 8 movie sites. Was AICN one of them? Two are yet to be mentioned on that prometheusnews link. Anyway, all eight emotions have been unlocked.

  • April 17, 2012, 3 p.m. CST

    haha, ehh, heynckes

    by foree forehead


  • April 17, 2012, 3:08 p.m. CST

    On the one hand, it's definitely creepy...

    by Jon Forbing

    On the other, I have to disagree with people saying that it conveys an unsubtle malice or evil. It really doesn't, that's the genius of it. That is EXACTLY the commercial that Apple or Microsoft or Intel would do if they came out with a mass-produced android tomorrow. There's really nothing overtly sinister about it (except the skulls and stuff), it just seems that way because it's fuck-off creepy.

  • April 17, 2012, 3:13 p.m. CST

    Apple's android would come in more colours.

    by Royston Lodge

    If he was designed by Microsoft, you'd have to simultaneously push buttons on his head, foot, and penis just to turn him on.

  • ...and David would be shown dancing.

  • April 17, 2012, 3:23 p.m. CST

    what exactly qualifies for hipster/indie these days?

    by foree forehead

    the black keys? panda bear? ariel pink? serious question

  • April 17, 2012, 3:25 p.m. CST

    Blade Runner and Alien are not the same universe. Oy.

    by impossibledreamers

    Folks need to get past that. I don't even care what Scott himself would say. Their times lines don't synch up. They just share some common themes of corporate run worlds, the blurring of the definition of humanity, etc.

  • April 17, 2012, 3:27 p.m. CST

    I dunno. I'm not hip.

    by Royston Lodge

  • April 17, 2012, 3:29 p.m. CST

    indie then?

    by foree forehead


  • April 17, 2012, 3:30 p.m. CST

    Russian Prometheus Trailer here

    by Royston Lodge

  • April 17, 2012, 3:33 p.m. CST

    And then, 100s of years later, we got Winona Ryder Robot

    by Al

    Looks like they're evolving backwards. Of course, I have this weird feeling that David will actually just be a complete fuck up and not very well put together in interacting with humans as opposed to how Bishop / Ash / the Bishop Droid from Alien 3 / Call was.

  • April 17, 2012, 3:34 p.m. CST

    Yes, Bishop in Alien 3 was an android

    by Al

    I don't care if you can see blood, he's a robot, it makes the Fucking Company Evil-er and my OCD need to make Charles Bishop Weyland fit into continuity must be satisfied. (Peter Weyland is a relative, I guess.)

  • April 17, 2012, 3:45 p.m. CST

    O.K. I wasn't fully on-board with this until now.


    Here's hoping the actual film is as intelligent as the viral marketing department.

  • April 17, 2012, 3:46 p.m. CST

    Choppah: You weren't kidding about that Weyland corporate timeline!

    by Royston Lodge

    1990 - Peter Weyland born. 2030 - Weyland Corp perfects hypersleep. So, he's only 40 years old when they perfect hypersleep. Hmm....

  • April 17, 2012, 3:47 p.m. CST

    I didn

    by reflecto

  • April 17, 2012, 3:47 p.m. CST

    I also like the legal fight with Yutani over the David patents.

    by Royston Lodge

    Proves that Weyland isn't the only company working on androids.

  • April 17, 2012, 3:57 p.m. CST

    impossibledreamers: You're right, they cannot be the same universe.

    by Royston Lodge

    The Weyland corporate timeline sez that global warming has been solved. I presume that means that the sort of pollution we see in Blade Runner is also a thing of the past. Yeah, I realize that pollution and global warming are two different things, but it doesn't really make sense that they'd fix one without fixing the other.

  • April 17, 2012, 4:05 p.m. CST

    Foree Forhead and others... Age and look...

    by ihatetalkbacks

    People banging on about the look and feel being missing. Have you guys not seen the general ship design like a Foss/Cobb ships of the 70s. The chunky vehicles like the truck in the hold. Have a look at the 60s inspired space suites with the large domed glass helments, small back packs and skin tight purple lycra - purple not grey. These are inspired by the era before the 70s when Alien was made, so that it looks like an earlier epoch... the 60s inspired the suites in Prometheus and the 70s made them in Alien. If any one really wants a CRT and punch screens before a modernised but stylistically relevent depiction they are mad. To a modern audience that may well not have seen Alien, that would be anachronistic and make it look like a Terry Gilliam mish mash like Brazil, sci-fantasy not sci-fiction. I am sure that Ron Cobb kicks himslef every night that he did not see hoilographic projection and touch screen technology coming in 1978. If he had he would be a billionaire not a film designer... Also Ash. Ash is put onto the Nostromo at the last minute before it leaves. Ripley and Dallas talk about it. He has never been on the Nostromo before. People warbling on about older models etc are trying to read too much into it or inventing their own material. Also these synthetics will learn, they learn in different ways. They are all unique and all become more life like as they progress. Straight out the packet they would be more robot like. The Weyland logo on the thumb - its an advert. They may well not have it in the film, Ash would not have had the logo. It is called branding (in this case litterally) to say that David is Weyland through and through. Don take everything so literally. Lastly, Prometheus seems to be not embracing Aliens but not rubbishing it. See that they have "Weyland," rather than "Weylan" with no D as in Alien. Ash can still be a Hyperdyne Systems model. Different companys all make different models. What better way to cover your tracks than having a competitors model do the dirty work. Hell maybe even Hyper Dyne did the OS and Weyland the building... there I go hypothesising... :(

  • April 17, 2012, 4:13 p.m. CST

    Alien / Blade Runner and AvP

    by ihatetalkbacks

    They are different. They have different timelines and share no shared character locations or plot. The depictions of arteficial people are different. In Blade Runner they are totally biological. In Alien they are mechanical That little Nostromo docking/spinner landing graphic is incidental. It is reused and evidence of nothing before any one says anything. The films have a few thematic similarites and are by the same director, that is all. Even the studio conciders the AvP franchise as non cannon, like the comics or games. They said it ran in parallel, rather than in series. TYhey said this in press when the first film was released

  • The Nostromo and the Sulaco both stayed in orbit and sent landing craft down to the planet. The Prometheus seems to fly all the way from Earth to the surface of the planet. No separate landing craft. That's more than just a question of how advanced the computer screens are.

  • April 17, 2012, 4:24 p.m. CST


    by ihatetalkbacks

    Thanks for being a voice of reason here about the BR/Alien links. There is one quote that Ridley Scott said and that I think is taken out of context. He thought thematically they were in the same universe, they had connections in ideas. That the characters were trapped in the same problems and social dynamics and society. Ridley likes to let his imagination run, he has ideas pring out his head. I dont think for one moment that he wanted the films to be seen as directly linked. Certainly now they drift more and more apart. I am sure nerd will mention that the lone graphic will appear to "link" them - the spinner landing and Nostromo decoupling. But this is a laughable link, Scott had access to the graphic and simple reused it. If they are evidence of a link we may as well say that Aliens is linke to Saturn5 as they both have a mechanical grapple that is reused. There are no locations or characters to keep them linked. I am sure some asperger nerds like to have them in the same world as it keeps things simple, contained. Safe - nerds like safe and familiar!

  • April 17, 2012, 4:27 p.m. CST


    by ihatetalkbacks

    The Nostrom was the ship you doughnut. It was a tug. The rest was the refinery. No Mother-ship

  • link or it didnt happen.

  • Prometheus is a streamlined exploratory vessel designed specifically for this trip - not a military carrier or a mining refinery.

  • April 17, 2012, 4:32 p.m. CST

    killik is so hell-bent on accepting the AvP movies as canon.

    by Robert Evans

    I've never seen more passion put into defending awful movies.

  • April 17, 2012, 4:34 p.m. CST

    Bless his heart.

    by reflecto

  • April 17, 2012, 4:35 p.m. CST

    The marketing for this film...

    by WeylandYutani

    has been a master stroke in my opinion. Don Draper would be envious.

  • April 17, 2012, 4:42 p.m. CST


    by ihatetalkbacks

    When the film came out they said it should not be concidered a prequel. I read it and I am not going to spend any of my life looking for it. AvP had 2 hours too much time as it is. If it is not a prequel, I can fairly assume it is non canon. The artical I read it in said "non-canon" in big letters. I think iot was some damage limitation when they knew they had a stinker on their hands. You can look all you want. Even if I am wrong it amounts to nothing, Prometheus seems to be making it less relevent every passing day.

  • As you can understand,please forgive me when i say that i dont believe you and that you are full of bullshit.sorry. Until you provied a valid,official link which validates your words,AVP will remaine canon in both the Aliens and Predator universes.FACT.

  • April 17, 2012, 4:55 p.m. CST

    killik: Let's say the AvP films are ALIEN canon.

    by Robert Evans

    But then let's say PROMETHEUS, which is directed by the guy who made the original film that started it all, retcons the AvP films out of the timeline completely. You're left with a choice: -Insist that the mediocre-to-crappy (I'm being generous. Very generous.) AvP are canon, but not PROMETHEUS. -Accept that PROMETHEUS is canon and the AvP films are fanwank cash-ins and footnotes, and nothing more.

  • April 17, 2012, 4:55 p.m. CST

    I wish I was a doughnut.

    by Royston Lodge

    Then I'd be sweet and tasty.

  • April 17, 2012, 4:55 p.m. CST


    by ihatetalkbacks

    You beat me. I will live in eternal shame forever. I read it, Im not looking for it. Its a shit film and Im not interested in it!

  • not your opinion.

  • April 17, 2012, 5:02 p.m. CST


    by ihatetalkbacks


  • April 17, 2012, 5:03 p.m. CST


    by jorson28

    I didn't really care about this movie... UNTIL NOW. This reminds me of the old Asimov books - certainly the foundation of just about any good robot movie ("foundation"... no pun intended).

  • April 17, 2012, 5:10 p.m. CST

    Bishop does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    Bishop in ALIEN 3 is an android, he tells Ripley he isnt to try and coerce her but he's lying. How do we know hes lying? Because he gets hit across the shoulders with a pipe and his ear falls halfway off, and he carries on like no problem. If your ear fell halfway off it would really ruin your day, unless you were an android.

  • April 17, 2012, 5:10 p.m. CST


    by Magnus Greel

    Slap a less fey haircut and 20 pounds of muscle and you have your next James Bond.

  • April 17, 2012, 5:20 p.m. CST

    @reflecto any link to backup your statement?

    by KilliK

  • April 17, 2012, 5:27 p.m. CST

    cobra - my view...

    by ihatetalkbacks

    but all androids have had white blood, why did he not have it, and more importantly... Bishop 2 had emotions of fear and greed. He is so emotional becuase he wants the alien. It is product, research, profit and influence - weapons makers have the ears of government. Why would an android be so emotional about it? He is the counterpoint to Bishop, an ansroid that had faith in Ripley and restored her humanity. Bishop 2 represents the loss of humanity, the human face of the company that is more evil than Ash or Bishop could ever be. He is the only human up to that point that ever wanted the Alien alive. He is the company in human form, evil not just robotic. With desires to own and control. Alien was never that good in terms of continuity. The ear hanging off was over done, or he was so passionate about the "need" to keep the alien it did not matter that it was hanging off. As an old boss once said to me, "Profits Darling!!!"

  • April 17, 2012, 5:36 p.m. CST

    I loved his shout out to Roy Batty.

    by veteran_of_mu

    We're no computers, Sebastian. We're physical.

  • April 17, 2012, 5:39 p.m. CST

    Love the irony

    by fenris777

    I'm sorry, Hal. I'm afraid I can't do that.

  • April 17, 2012, 5:43 p.m. CST

    not too far-fetched seeing as...

    by vosborne951

    they occupy all levels of our government, law enforcement, clergy, education... bad... Weyland Industries... replacing humanity one person at a time.

  • April 17, 2012, 5:46 p.m. CST

    Yep that's the thing Royston/Reflecto

    by alexander

    So it's only in Aliens that Ripleys daughter existed, and we've had no confirmation or reason to believe that's 'canon' to Ridley with Alien/Prometheus so far... Vickers being the corporate jezebel who ends up letting the xenomorphs ride her bareback on tap as the queen to spawn eggs, I can see why that's a delicious prospect for some, but... Patience Conscience stop your silly nonsense, as a Jane Austen character, or was it Jay Z, who once said... something like that? I dunno but let's all put that aside (I'm aware I just brought it up... this coffee with the major sleep deprivation is good shit ok)... Anyway, what was I on about?... Yes, assuming that's not the case and Ripley has no daughter it makes sense to me. And that quote from Ridley saying Alien and Blade Runner are essentially set in the same universe, that's interesting. What does 'essentially' mean exactly in this context? Because what struck me as markedly different between the Androids and Replicants, and the point of Blade Runner in its own right, is that the Replicants are actually capable of basic human emotions and feeling, empathy etc. The idea is the Tyrell corp has actually managed to achieve that in a limited capacity, but its the designated roles-tasks, the non existent memories and engineered dreams, and the very limited lifespan, that separates them from us, that ultimately places a barrier between, and a perceived threat to, real 'organic' human beings. To the point where even if you don't believe Deckard is a replicant, the fact the somewhat mystic dandy - who knowingly says "Horsedick! You Blade Runner!" to the best embodiment of Fats otherside on screen yet - is able to interpret and spell out his dreams, well that should tell you were all space dust carbon etc and a creators child, with humanity and life to cling and grasp to, even if its as see through and transparent in its form and construct and design to a wise man of the ages and his knowledge-beliefs as a replicants is to a well informed humans... Whereas Ash for example, strikes me as essentially a robot with things we can empathise with only on the surface... (unless you ever had a break down or 'crossed wires' in the brain and tried to shove a porno mag down some poor unfortunates throat as a result of the expendable on the mission displaying no perceived sexual urges you yourself know how to respond to directly first hand while on a corporate venture I guess...)... So interestingly enough, if David becomes more human on this planet...and you factor that quote of Ridleys... Can you hear the bells of Star Treks alt verse/newly created timeline ringing? Just teasing. But I am curious as to how Androids and Replicants, Weyland-Yutani and Tyrell, might 'essentially' exist in the same universe.

  • April 17, 2012, 5:51 p.m. CST

    Original script had him as a human...

    by ihatetalkbacks

    not seen anything that explicitly changes him to android. Since the script had so many changes and it is ambiguous on screen we may never know: Killik you love the expanded universe so much - the book says he is human and has a name.

  • April 17, 2012, 6 p.m. CST

    Human. This is the shooting script

    by ihatetalkbacks

  • April 17, 2012, 6:04 p.m. CST

    FUCK THE BOOK.What about the movie? is he or not an android?

    by KilliK

  • April 17, 2012, 6:05 p.m. CST

    Human. This is the final shooting script.

    by ihatetalkbacks Bishop II writhes on the floor. The troops fire on Aaron, shoot him down. Bishop II turns. No wires. No milk. Real blood. ......................... and again No ambiguity. No intention he is an android except for Ripleys initial claim, and REAL blood.

  • April 17, 2012, 6:07 p.m. CST

    FUCK THE SCRIPT.What about the movie? is he or he is not human?

    by KilliK

    you know that a lot of things change from the script during the shooting of a what is it? human or android?

  • April 17, 2012, 6:11 p.m. CST

    killik - thats the best your going to get.

    by ihatetalkbacks

    Final script says human. Novelisation says human. Anything else is speculation. Call Fincher up on 07908 114376 he always feels lonely this time of night and likes to chat about Alien3. Its his fav film experience!

  • April 17, 2012, 6:14 p.m. CST

    @ihatetalkbacks ROFL ;)

    by KilliK

  • Like I said, I'm just a continuity geek so Bishop II is a droid, Charles Bishop Weyland founded Weyland Industries which, in turn, worked it's way towards Peter Weyland, who was related to Charles Bishop Weyland. Yes, I know a tie-in website disputes all that. Haven't read 'em. I am allowed to make my own fannon connections and that does not make me wrong. Besides, doesn't the timeline site not name his father? Shit, if a corporate billionaire died in an underground pyramid search for space aliens and advanced technology, one would assume an official bio would clean it up to read "died in a car crash" or something. If not, whatevs, distant relative. Didn't talk about him much. It's a No Prize for a fan of the series. Shit, I've read enough comic books & watched enough Star Trek to figure these little continuity puzzles out by now.

  • April 17, 2012, 6:21 p.m. CST

    Saw the PROMETHEUS trailer again in LIEMAX 3-D...looks damn sweet.

    by justmyluck

  • April 17, 2012, 6:23 p.m. CST

    -Hello? -Hiya,mr Fincher.

    by KilliK

    -Who is this? -i am a movie geek who also happens to be one of your greatest fans ever who loves all your movies -glad to hear what can i do for you? -i am having with a bunch of other film fans,a hot debate in AICN,you know the site that Harry Knowles runs. -who gives a fuck who runs it,go on,you were having a hot debate and? -uh,yes.and we were having this hot debate about one of your best and most underrated movies.. -oh really? which one -Alien Thr... -BURN IN HELL YOU MOTHERLESS beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep -he..hello? mr Fincher? hello?

  • April 17, 2012, 6:44 p.m. CST

    I like his Turboman voice changer...

    by HB_Dad

    ...Jake Lloyd is stoked!

  • April 17, 2012, 6:49 p.m. CST

    What if the biggest suprise of this film is that it's... SAD ?!


    Michael Fassbender said he didn't watch any of the ALIEN films to prepare for this but instead, he watched BLADE RUNNER. He mentions the character of the replicant Rachael as an influence on David. There is mentioning of David basically being picked on by everyone throughout the film. Whether he does something catastrophic or heroic, I'm sure he'll have been "bullied" emotionally much. It seems that the David 8 model is touting the emotion function as something new. I'll bet that he ends up making a decision in the film based on emotions... Possibly even in attempt to become more human ala. Pinocchio. Or at least, to be able to gain real emotions. To really feel them. Ridley Scott's films are always deep and to me, many are sad because they're so true. I'm much more interested in if the film rings true emotionally than if some irrelevant scientific fluff doesn't fit. That's how you care about what's going on anyhow - by identifying with the characters. If anything, hopefully what Ridley brings to the table with this film is shattering the idea that science fiction can't have humor, sadness and all the other emotional elements that go with GOOD film making.

  • April 17, 2012, 7:47 p.m. CST

    The Joker: The Motion Picture

    by UltraTron

  • April 17, 2012, 7:47 p.m. CST

    I see the new Joker. Cast this mutherfucker

    by UltraTron

  • April 17, 2012, 8:21 p.m. CST

    That was fucking brilliant...

    by BookhouseBoy

    This and the TED presentation are just mind-blowing...Hooray!!!

  • April 17, 2012, 8:30 p.m. CST


    by lotor666

    Johnny Hardstaff did it through Scotts production company.

  • April 17, 2012, 8:43 p.m. CST

    = AVP is out.=

    by KilliK

    says you.the fact remains that it is a canonical part of the Alien/Predator universes.FACT.

  • April 17, 2012, 9:24 p.m. CST

    Ridley Scott...

    by nikem3

    is going to connect the movie Alien with the movie AI. Think about it.. in AI all the androids can speak, and so can they in the alien movie. Coincidence? I think not.

  • April 17, 2012, 9:52 p.m. CST

    Damon Lindelof connected Bladerunner

    by Teddy Artery

    and Alien. Check out his recent interview on the Nerdist Writer podcast (you can find it through iTunes). I give Lindelof the credit and Scott the credit for running with it.

  • April 17, 2012, 10:13 p.m. CST


    by Teddy Artery

    I'd assume they have a web site also.

  • April 17, 2012, 10:15 p.m. CST

    Also, what is a "normal format"?

    by Teddy Artery

    If your computer is capable of listening to any kind of audio file, I'd wager you can figure it out.

  • April 17, 2012, 10:20 p.m. CST

    Stupid buffering

    by dukeroberts

    It took me 10 minutes to watch that fucking thing. It was kind of awesome though.

  • April 17, 2012, 11:38 p.m. CST


    by Keith

    'Are you gay or just British?' Yeah, it's weird how intelligence often suggests gayness.

  • April 18, 2012, midnight CST

    Brilliantly made. Is this by Ridley himself?

    by AshMcQ

    If so, I'm hyped at last.

  • April 18, 2012, 12:07 a.m. CST

    AVP is canon

    by enzoc

    I guess it is technically, given that it's out there, but then so is Prometheus then and Prometheus contradicts AVP so you have to reject one or the other and since Prometheus is directed by the director of the original alien I'm gonna reject the AVP series, that and the fact that they're terrible movies.

  • April 18, 2012, 12:08 a.m. CST

    Alien and Blade Runner connection?

    by redcat1

    Is it just me or does this remind you of Blade Runner? Could David be a Nexus 7?

  • April 18, 2012, 12:22 a.m. CST

    Background at minute 1:41

    by Evstar Galaxim

    the wall paneling in the background at minute 1:40 1:42 looks like that color wall found in the E15 MIT Media Lab atrium and at Paisley Park in Minneapolis. Not I.M.Pei for the interior design, was it? Who designed those white paneled walls with color accents? === === === I know that all the fanboys in the world were incredibly hyperpumped for the Speilberg/Kubrick A.I., which was a bit of a letdown, though not as huge a letdown as Episode One The Phantom Menace. Then, the bombs fell. Lucky for fanboys, Speilberg made MINORITY REPORT the very next year. Oh and Soderbergh's SOLARIS. And now, we may become lucky again. Thank you Ridley!

  • April 18, 2012, 12:46 a.m. CST

    It's not David, it's a grown up D.A.R.Y.L. actually

    by Gorgomel

  • April 18, 2012, 2:09 a.m. CST


    by TheDesolateOne

    <p>Just scroll this page. You'll see download links in pink.<p> <p><p> <p>Just Right Click/Save Target As<p>

  • April 18, 2012, 3:10 a.m. CST

    Those banging on about how clean and advanced it all is

    by allouttabubblegum

    ...You are aware this is not intended as a Alien prequel right? And you are aware that its a variation of the same universe? I think a lot of you comparing this to Alien are going to be very dissapointed. Scott has already said there is only a small nod to Alien. This is a whole new story. The look can be whatever it wants to be as its supposed to be its own seperate entity.

  • Kubrick certainly went out of his way to show the humans in "2001" as being largely devoid of sincerity, lacking in surface emotion, and strategically gamey. While HAL is actually the emotional one. I think the lesson there is probably that in our quest to eliminate all our weaknesses, or at least get rid of showing them, we ironically become more mechanical, like a computer. The David 8's emotional capabilities are clearly going to be critical to the story. After all, what would offend an early AI more than what it viewed as unnecessary suffering and cruelty? I have this funny feeling that real AI may end up showing us how easily we abandon our decency when push comes to shove. A computational intelligence might see war and suffering as unacceptable waste. And so, like HAL, David may be the emotional center of the movie somehow, and meant to challenge our ideas about our nature and culture and whether our sometimes inhumanity towards our fellow man is acceptable.

  • April 18, 2012, 4:53 a.m. CST

    It's Ulysses from Making Mr. Right

    by Charles Calthrop

    Anybody else see that one? It had John Malkovich as a naive android with side-parted blond hair and a jumpsuit. I can't get creeped out by Fassbender's David because of that goofy movie.

  • April 18, 2012, 6:04 a.m. CST

    Bishop II from Alien 3 was a clone.

    by Supermans

    This is the only explanation that would make sense.

  • April 18, 2012, 6:08 a.m. CST

    Would they really have him openly say that he'd

    by Bedknobs and Boomsticks

    do things that were unethical?

  • April 18, 2012, 6:33 a.m. CST

    i will never forget the video of lindelof

    by animas

    asking cj wilson if he had any ideas how to end lost. fuck you damon you piece of shit.

  • April 18, 2012, 6:51 a.m. CST

    glad fassbender gets freedom to show off his acting skills

    by animas

    other than the movie "Hunger" he has been in a lot of limited roles. I'll be watching "Shame" soon.

  • April 18, 2012, 9:45 a.m. CST

    The two *Skulls*

    by Johnboy40

    The ones behind David's head. They are from his predecessor model, the Kryten 2X4B-523P service mechanoid. Made by Diva Droid, who went bust after the failure of the Hudzen 10 model. Diva Droid have clearly been bought by Weyland.

  • April 18, 2012, 9:58 a.m. CST

    Mitt Romney's campaign ads are getting more life-like all the time !

    by Half-Baked-Goggle-Box-Do-Gooder

    But you still don't think he's capable of anything that his handlers didn't program him to say.

  • April 18, 2012, 10:11 a.m. CST

    Tilda Swinton

    by Brian

    I didn't know Tilda Swinton is in this. Can't wait to see this. It will be a delicious sci-fi nugget.

  • April 18, 2012, 10:45 a.m. CST

    my guess is that he will......

    by corplhicks

    be calm, cool as hell throughout the movie, then lash out towards the end, maybe due to programming, maybe due to threats to himself or humans, maybe an alteration of his programming by the aliens in the new movie. It would be way too boring to have him like this throughout the movie

  • April 18, 2012, 10:46 a.m. CST

    TMI Marketing

    by ThatEndDown

    The more viral campaigns and footage and information comes out about this film, the more my interest wains. That is not to say that this film does not look intriguing; more that too much goes into the marketing of a film today. That is the original trailer for Alien; pretty much all you got, and not too much more from what I can find. Compare that to the trailer for Prometheus. Too much information, not enough mystery.

  • April 18, 2012, 11:55 a.m. CST

    @gotilk/Royston Lodge...

    by Blue_Demon

    Maybe I'm too late with this but I was thinking David may be talking about doing things that may be unethical for humans on the level of dangerous. Sending him into an area where there may be disease or radiation or something. He does the jobs that humans may be afraid to do due to our self-preservation instinct. Just a thought.

  • April 18, 2012, 12:08 p.m. CST

    Good point, blue_demon

    by Robert Evans

    Also, keep in mind that this is likely a promotion made for other companies and not public consumption. PROMETHEUS is clearly set in a corporate-controlled future, so I imagine there'd be a lot of this kind of inter-company communication.

  • April 18, 2012, 12:32 p.m. CST

    anyone catch these few things

    by corplhicks

    he is tapping his finger or twitching-- a bug? something troubling his mind? when the box is opened the tube on the right has that milky liquid flowing downward then he wakes up. cool, like Ash's milky blood.

  • April 18, 2012, 12:45 p.m. CST

    its asimo LOL

    by and

  • April 18, 2012, 12:48 p.m. CST


    by DocOpticus

    Collating ...|

  • April 18, 2012, 1:09 p.m. CST

    Thats an oscar right there in my book

    by Tony

  • April 18, 2012, 1:10 p.m. CST


    by ihatetalkbacks

    Could be a glitch or a dream to show inteligence... or both

  • April 18, 2012, 2:39 p.m. CST


    by Robert Evans

  • April 18, 2012, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Message to Hollywood: Britain does it BETTER! LISTEN AND LEARN!

    by workshed

    This is the kind of cerebral sci-fi people want; that endures for decades and people revisit time after time. Giving the masses shit like Transformers does nothing for the reputation of your industry and goes to perpetuate the notion that you are vacuous, money-grabbing, infantile fools who will never understand that the true value of art does not reside in strictly monetary terms. NOW GIVE CHRIS CUNNINGHAM THE $200M HE NEEDS TO MAKE 'NEUROMANCER' THE DEFINITIVE STATEMENT ON THE INTERNET AGE (or anything he so chooses dammit!)

  • April 18, 2012, 3 p.m. CST

    mentaldominance: Songs purchased from iTunes are DRM free.

    by Royston Lodge

    Of course, movies and tv shows from iTunes have DRM, but I don't think there are ANY (law-abiding) services out there that offer DRM-free movies or tv shows, so one can hardly blame Apple for that.

  • April 18, 2012, 3:04 p.m. CST

    Another Synthetic

    by Patrick Pettay

    I was just thinking that David was constructed as man's perfect image of himself. So David has the chisled good looks that Michael Fassbinder was lucky enough to be born with. The other crew of the Prometheus are all less than perfect, scruffy, regular joes, like all of us. Except..... Charlize! She is not just beautiful, she's perfect. Even the way her hair is shown tied back with that straight part looks too perfect. Previous interviews have spoken of how her character emerges from hypersleep and immeadiately starts doing pushups while the others are puking their guts out. Like shes immune to the same force that makes all the other humans sick. Hhhmm. I will bet Charlize turns out to be a synthetic as well.

  • April 18, 2012, 3:05 p.m. CST

    Weyland Industries now has its full David page up:

    by Robert Evans One interesting nugget from the specifications area: Heart and Soul David 8 can record, process, understand and express many complex emotions, but he will never know true human feelings such as love, grief and compassion. *never know true human feelings such as love, grief and compassion*

  • April 18, 2012, 3:11 p.m. CST

    Will space exploration be the "next big thing" in sci-fi movies?

    by Royston Lodge

    Trends in sci-fi/fantasy come, go, come back, and then go away again, all the time. We've had vampires. Zombies have had a good run. Time travel's been done to death. I was chatting with a buddy of mine on this topic, and we wonder if it might finally be time for space exploration to make a come-back on the big screen. MOON and Sunshine showed that this kind of sci-fi can be done on a reasonable budget. Defying Gravity was a valiant attempt on the small screen, but was marred by terrible casting and soap opera writing. If Prometheus does well at the box office, maybe the studios will see some profit potential for a new slate of these kinds of flicks? Maybe Douglas Trumbull will see his "120 frames-per-second" movie get the green light if Prometheus does well? Maybe we'll finally see 2061: Odyssey Three on the big screen?

  • April 18, 2012, 3:19 p.m. CST

    choppah: Like I wrote earlier, David is programmed to lie.

    by Royston Lodge

    He displays perfect, calculated facsimiles of human emotions, right down to the perfectly-timed tears, in order to "make it easier for my human counterparts to interact with me." (i.e. to fool them) At the end of the day, however, his knowledge of what those emotions MEAN is pretty much no better than reading the Wikipedia entry for "love" or "compassion". In other words, David meets the classic definition of a psychopath.

  • April 18, 2012, 3:25 p.m. CST

    dickwhitman: Maybe. Maybe not.

    by Royston Lodge

    On the one hand, she does seem a little too perfect from what we've seen in the trailers. However, David is supposed to be the cutting edge of android technology, but he's still clearly a little "robotic" in his mannerisms. The filmmaker's have designed David so that he doesn't QUITE cross the uncanny valley. If Charlize is also an android, that means that somebody other than Weyland has developed superior technology. I don't think that really fits with the mythology they've been creating with these virals. I think it's more likely that Charlize's character is *too perfect* compared to the other characters because she's an ambitious corporate ladder-climber, and the rest of 'em are wage-slave scientists and technicians.

  • April 18, 2012, 3:37 p.m. CST

    Also from the specifications: Famous Last Words!

    by Royston Lodge

    Unlike previous models, David 8 can conduct all of his own maintenance procedures. Yeah, we've heard that before. No 9000 series computer had ever made a mistake, either. How can a A.I. possibly conduct diagnostics on the integrity of its own thought patterns? If a fault develops in David's algorithms, presumably the fault will extend to the diagnostics subroutines themselves, no? Once Norton is infected with malware, you've gotta reinstall Windows. There'll always be a need to have a human (or maybe an external computer, like MOTHER?) trained and authorized to recognize and repair faults in the android. Clearly, the people in the Alien universe have never seen 2001.

  • *If Charlize is also an android, that means that somebody other than Weyland has developed superior technology.* What if she's an android perfected by Yutani, programmed to be the perfect corporate climber and, hence, a mole. Yutani, according to the corporate timeline, was already fighting with Weyland over patents. Now what if they try to seize an upper hand by having one of their android moles get to a position of power and influence and, as a result, receive a front-row seat to Weyland's biggest project yet. Hmmmm. It's probably wank, but it's got me thinking.

  • Noonian Soong programmed Data to seek help from a human when he suspected a fault in his own functioning. Clearly, Dr. Soong was smarter than Peter Weyland. ;-)

  • April 18, 2012, 3:46 p.m. CST

    choppah: I thought about that, but I don't think it fits.

    by Royston Lodge

    I thought about suggesting that she might be a Yutani android, but I really don't think it fits that Yutani would have an android that's more advanced than Weyland's newest model. It's entirely possible that she's a human working for Yutani, on the other hand.

  • This way, the Weyland droids would make for excellent corporate moles for Sir Peter and co.

  • April 18, 2012, 3:47 p.m. CST

    That works, too, Royston.

    by Robert Evans

  • April 18, 2012, 3:57 p.m. CST

    I might even be more suspenseful is NOBODY's a mole.

    by Royston Lodge

    Face it, we're EXPECTING a mole. Ash was the mole in Alien, with his own mission directives. Paul Reiser was a corporate stooge in Aliens, lying through his teeth about the mission. At this point, we'll be shocked if there is NO evil corporate backstabber in Prometheus. Surely, Ridley and Lindelof know this. So, what if the big twist is that there is no mole? What if they drop hints throughout the movie that Charlize, or David, or somebody else has a hidden agenda, but it isn't true? So everybody on board gets more and more paranoid, starts pointing fingers, and ends up fucking the mission to hell and back. Over nothing. Honestly, I doubt Ridley and Lindelof are that clever, but it's the way I might go if I was writing this sucka.

  • April 18, 2012, 4:05 p.m. CST

    More clues re: Vickers as an andriod

    by Patrick Pettay

    The only time we have heard her speak during the trailers is when she is warning the crew about going outside, which would follow along with the android programming to protect Humans. If she was the typical corporate sleeze Weyland has become famous for I doubt she would have that kind of compassion. I also remember an interview with Fassbender and Charlize (both androids together)from back in March. Fassbender was asked whether Davis was good or bad using Bishop and Ash as previous examples. Fassbinder asked Charlize about how she would describe David and Charlize responded back, "Am I twitching." Which seemed kind of cryptic until I saw that David video.

  • April 18, 2012, 4:05 p.m. CST

    From the Specifications: More proof that David is evil...

    by Royston Lodge

    He enjoys golf. ;-)

  • April 18, 2012, 4:13 p.m. CST

    dickwhitman: I'm not dismissing the Chalizedroid theory completely.

    by Royston Lodge

    I just don't think it "feels" right. It simply doesn't seem to "fit" with the mood they seem to be building. But that's hardly a decent rebuttal, clearly. Also, I'm still sorta clinging (desperately) to the theory that the corporate culture at pre-merger Weyland is happier and more ethical than the infamous Weyland-Yutani corporate culture later on.

  • April 18, 2012, 6:11 p.m. CST

    Guess some people here haven't been around corporate women

    by NotEnoughBiehn

    That's the kid of presentation a lot of them put forth. Fanatncial about outward appearance. Extremely high grooming. Composed, sometimes icy. They're putting forth the image of a go getter, someone with extreme competence and attention to detail. In control. They're trying to impress for success. Having the face and stature of Charlize Theron helps that display, but still. And do androids sweat clear sweat in the Alien universe?

  • April 18, 2012, 6:22 p.m. CST


    by Eli_Cash

    I'm not totally convinced that the script leak is fake. There's good evidence that it is, but even if its fake I'm still worried that the real movie will be flawed in the same way. A mundane plot about alien gods used to string together a bunch of scenes that do nothing more than explain Alien or implicitly homage it.

  • April 18, 2012, 6:34 p.m. CST

    And do androids sweat clear sweat in the Alien universe?

    by Royston Lodge

    I wouldn't design an android to sweat at all. Presumably, there are more efficient ways to maintain an android's operating temperature. An exhaust fan in his ass? ;-) The only other reason to make him sweat would be to make people think he's nervous, but what use would that be? Humans would want to think he never gets nervous. After all, if the android's nervous, it would make me REALLY nervous. Now, if it was a covert android, that would be a different story. You'd add in the fake sweat so he can better infiltrate a group of humans.

  • April 18, 2012, 6:57 p.m. CST

    And would an andriod do naked push ups in private?

    by NotEnoughBiehn

    And for what reason? See where I'm going with this? Though I do remember that little jogging in place move Ash did in Alien, to keep warm. Androids can feel cold I guess.

  • As much so as the two Royston implys to me in Response: that she is human, but a mole for Yutani, or that she is simply a human corporate knife, the Weyland mole or real trustee as opposed to David, and because of what happens this time round, an android is preffered as the mole next time round.

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    by unclemonty666

  • Should anything Galactus like threaten earth and humanity.