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Mark Webb Discusses AMAZING SPIDER-MAN Canon, Or Lack Thereof...

Published at: April 11, 2012, 10:02 a.m. CST by merrick

Merrick here...

AMAZING SPIDER-MAN director Mark Webb recently spoke to MTV about his upcoming film - a discussion which provides a few interesting talking points about the new picture. 

Choice quotelets include...

Regarding the "mystery" of Peter Parker's parents...

"I wanted to give the audience something new, so that started off with getting underneath the parents' story, which will unfold over probably a few movies,"

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"We don't totally wrap up that story in this first movie. It's sort of an ongoing mystery. That was something that was interesting to me."

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" ...there is no wrestling match in this movie. The character is evolving in a different way."

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"He's bitten by a spider...but maybe it's not a radioactive spider. Or maybe it is! You'll have to see." 

 

All of this, and more, can be found in THIS piece at MTV.

I do like the emotional core Webb speaks of in the piece (kid being left behind, etc.), and feel there's plenty of room to explore such elements in a Spidey movie.  This said, I don't see why such exploration can't be accomplished while also upholding canon?  

Of course, I'm still trying to wrap my brain around why we're getting an origin story with this one anyway...so what do I know?  One thing's for certain...this movie hurts my head, but I'm making every effort to remain open minded.  The whole things feels 'off' at the moment, but to be completely fair...it's hard to know how all of this will work out until we see the movie for ourselves (it's in theaters July 3).   In the months leading up to its 2009 release, many people kicked and screamed about canonical changes brought to STAR TREK by Team Abrams - but that emerged as a hugely entertaining film when all is said and done.  So, we'll see...

 

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  • April 11, 2012, 10:03 a.m. CST

    I can't tell if I'm first or if the internet in Kenya is super slow

    by leonardo_dicraprio

    'cause I'm in kenya. and still looking at AiCN

  • April 11, 2012, 10:04 a.m. CST

    Turns out the answer is: both.

    by leonardo_dicraprio

  • April 11, 2012, 10:06 a.m. CST

    parents' story will unfold over probably a few movies?

    by Titus05

    not if the first movie tanks and there are no sequels which looks like a good possibility at this point...everyone is talking about Prometheus, Avengers and Dark Knight Rises this summer...a new Spider Man movie should be getting a lot more buzz...I like Garfield a lot but I'm worried that the script might be disappointing

  • April 11, 2012, 10:07 a.m. CST

    Oh great, so not only a reboot, but a multi-movie origin reboot

    by Domi'sInnerChild

    Great plan Sony. Marvel can't get the rights back soon enough.

  • April 11, 2012, 10:08 a.m. CST

    so it's another superhero movie that is one long trailer for its own sequel

    by Spandau Belly

    But without Downey Jr's charisma to fool people into thinking they got a real movie.

  • April 11, 2012, 10:08 a.m. CST

    Ooh the suspense is killing me.

    by Danrold

    Is it radioactive or not? Next thing will be, is Superman an alien or not?? Dumb and dumber!

  • April 11, 2012, 10:11 a.m. CST

    Alien Spider

    by Domi'sInnerChild

    They're already vampires and they're going Emo Parker. Movie sells itself.

  • April 11, 2012, 10:12 a.m. CST

    Boring, Boring, Boring

    by SonOfChiba

    No-one has EVER cared about what did or didn't happen to Peter's parents. No-one. I can see that they are trying to add something new to the mix but this isn't the way to go. My expectations for this are getting lower and lower. From the trailers, it looks like a dour re-hash of the awful first Raimi film - but now we get a "mystery" thrown in, too? And one that will be strung out over the inevitable sequels? Poor.

  • April 11, 2012, 10:14 a.m. CST

    Read it yesterday

    by Jaster Mareel

    I've always thought it was bizarre that Peter is an orphan, or appears to be an orphan...but in all those comics it is never explained why. Well from what I understand there was a comics run that said they were spies from S.H.E.I.L.D., but that's just stupid. So hope he's not going with a dumb-assed spy deal. I realize Sony can't use S.H.E.I.L.D., but they could be C.I.A. or something. All so retarded.

  • April 11, 2012, 10:17 a.m. CST

    Peter's parents irrelevant and should never be adressed.

    by JediRob

    Ben and May are for all intents his parents. His father gets killed and he becomes Spider-Man. That's it. It's perfect. Bringing in his parents as some kind of secret people that loom over him, even going as far to have his Father wrapped up in the creation of the Spider that bites him is so lazy. Peter doesn't have destiny. That's not what Spider-Man is about.

  • April 11, 2012, 10:17 a.m. CST

    One thing I'm slightly worried about for this film...

    by Jaster Mareel

    I mean yeah, there's plenty wrong from a geek perspective like no snout on Lizard and the weird basketball costume....but the thing that could alienate general audiences is that it looks like mos of the action takes place at night. That's just dumb, especially for Spidey. A Spider-Man movie should be a kid's movie more than anything.

  • Just thinking about how it fits into that continuity makes my brain hurt!

  • April 11, 2012, 10:20 a.m. CST

    It's Ang Lee's Hulk all over again...

    by bralli

    I usually don't like piling on in these talkbacks but this thing just reeks of that movie.

  • All the story boarding and charcterisation has been done for you for the last god knows how many years, but still you just have to chip in with your own little take on it. Fuck off.

  • April 11, 2012, 10:32 a.m. CST

    ENOUGH WITH THE ORIGIN STORIES

    by Rob

    GOOD LORD

  • April 11, 2012, 10:37 a.m. CST

    I predict this film won't get any sequels

    by rev_skarekroe

    Just a hunch, but I think people just aren't going to be into it like they were the 2000s Spidey films.

  • April 11, 2012, 10:41 a.m. CST

    Webb's a great director...

    by Melanie Griffiths Sour Patch

    ...so I don't think he'll make a bad movie. The real question is in a summer with a new Ridley Scott Alien movie, The Avengers and the finale of the Nolan Batman's will his take on Spiderman cut through the noise? Right now it's so low on my list of priorities movie wise I could wait for it on Blu and be fine. There's no sense of urgency in me to see it and I have a feeling there's no sense of urgency in a lot of people to see it. Not to be cliche, but "too soon" is the case here. It won't out and out flop like John Carter did, but unless he has made the greatest superhero movie of all time they're going to have a hard time convincing people there's anything new here to see. The fact that went small in the villain category with Lizard is a problem I think.

  • April 11, 2012, 10:43 a.m. CST

    What if the Lizard loved Castro? Would that interest you?

    by Domi'sInnerChild

    Make him more villainy?

  • April 11, 2012, 10:44 a.m. CST

    I wanted to give the audience something new...

    by -Halfscan-

    Then how about skipping yet another fucking origin story and actually, you know, "give the audience something new"?

  • April 11, 2012, 10:45 a.m. CST

    I've read Spidy since the beginning

    by Hipshot

    And one thing about Marvel (and DC, really)--they haven't been afraid to play around with their characters' history. The problem with canon is that it strangles the filmmaker. A premise is great. Even a character. But the history and so forth? I see no reason to question the right of re-interpretation. That's been a part of storytelling since forever. We, on the other hand, have the right to hold our noses if we don't like the results. I'm not turning handsprings over Spider-Man because Avengers is sucking up my fan energy these days. Spidey was always my favorite, but I've seen three movies with that character, and tons of superhero films at this point, but nothing like Avengers has ever been attempted, let alone accomplished with real brio. I'm not even stoked about TDKR, although I know I'll be there on opening day. Spidey though? I'll wait until I hear more. And after May 4, when I fly out to Los Angeles to see Avengers with my daughter. Right now, my excitement is focused.

  • April 11, 2012, 10:47 a.m. CST

    I once tried submitting a story that delt ith Parker's Parents

    by cookylamoo

    And the editor told me pretty much the same thing. They don't matter. But they don't matter because Marvel never did anything good with them. Spider-Man Annual just blew them off by having the Red Skull (who was supposed to be in hibernation) kill them. And then they came back as robots in a really dumb series of stories.

  • April 11, 2012, 10:47 a.m. CST

    I remember reading this 2-3 days ago on Bleeding Cool or SuperHeroHype.

    by Cletus Van Damme

  • April 11, 2012, 10:48 a.m. CST

    Hmmm. Maybe it was my spelling that was the problem.

    by cookylamoo

    or this fucking cheap keyboard.

  • April 11, 2012, 10:51 a.m. CST

    Enough with the conspiracies!

    by frankenstone

    This is Spider Man, not LOST. Or the X-Files. Or Fringe. Why must there be mysteries and conspiracies and unanswered questions that just lead to more unanswered questions? And this does sound EXACTLY like Ang Lee's Hulk-daddy story, as bralli noted above. Let's take something simple and elegant and make it as convoluted and confusing as we possibly can.

  • I need me more Bruce.

  • ...and if it's good then it will do good business. The w-o-m on Spidey III killed it's BO potential very early on (stopped me paying to see it at least - and I was quite happy to shell out my money for the first two). Imo Marc Webb has his work cut out but in reality it's all on the shoulders of Garfield. He's more 'Peter Parker' than Macguire ever was but I'm dubious about the 'give em something new'. I just want a Spidey movie that is faithful to the source material. If they can capture half the spirit of 'Spectacular Spider Man' animation they could be on to a winner.

  • April 11, 2012, 10:55 a.m. CST

    workshed: couldve sworn spidey3 made more money than 2 or 1 ? or am I a Div ?

    by higgledyhiggles

  • April 11, 2012, 10:57 a.m. CST

    bitten by a spider, in pain he stumbles

    by JAMF

    across the street and is hit by a truck carrying barrels of toxic goo. spider-man is born.

  • April 11, 2012, 10:57 a.m. CST

    This movie seems so tedious

    by Beezbo

    I'm already dreading sitting through it in July.

  • April 11, 2012, 11 a.m. CST

    Peter Potter

    by leonardo_dicraprio

    The parents thing is about as good idea as giving Tom Cruise a wife in MI3.

  • April 11, 2012, 11:01 a.m. CST

    hope it's Sony's "John Carter"

    by cozy

  • April 11, 2012, 11:03 a.m. CST

    don't care if reviews are good, skipping this...

    by schnipple

    Great, we get an origin story over three movies. Also, it seems like Marc WEbb has discovered the Studio’s success with the orphan story and learning about the orphan’s dead or missing parents as in Harry Potter, Star Wars, Iron Man, Batman, Wanted, ad nauseaum… Trying to sell this as an “original” way to approach the Spider Man story is condescending to the audience that is tired of remakes or the same “orphan” story being told in almost every tent pole film. Give it a rest. We get it. It’s a cash grab trying to please the lowest common denominator over the course of a trilogy. Mystery? That one ended when Darth Vader revealed himself to Luke. But they just keep beating the dead horse don’t they?

  • I just can't get excited about this. I mean I'm really trying to care, but this thing just it's doing it for me. I mean I just don't see the point of a straight REBOOT. I mean the only thing you can take away from the AWFUL Superman Returns was hey at least it's not an origin story. Everything else good riddens, but at least it had that. I would've prefered if they just did that, and introduced the parents backstory/origin in that way rather than: HEY LET'S DO ANOTHER ORIGIN STORY!

  • April 11, 2012, 11:04 a.m. CST

    spiderman the origin story reboot trilogy!!!!!!!!!!1

    by vulturess

    so glad theyre gonna stretch it out for 3 movies. i hope they stretch out uncle bens death over all 3 flicks too. can never have enough uncle bens death.

  • His best work is staring him right in his face, and he's just sitting on his hands

  • April 11, 2012, 11:12 a.m. CST

    Is anyone else annoyed...

    by SebastianHaff

    That every other movie these days is about chosen ones, bloodlines, or missing brothers/sisters/parents? We always here before a movie comes out it's about an average Joe, then the whole focus of the movie is how he's actually a fucking wizard, or his father was Darth Vader, or whatever. I miss when movies were about truly ordinary people in extraordinary situations. Hitchcock understood this. I don't give a fuck about spoiled whiny white kids and their rich secret agent parents. So fuck off with that shit.

  • fuck whedons gayvengers.

  • April 11, 2012, 11:12 a.m. CST

    There was a spelling error in my above post.

    by SebastianHaff

    Hear, not here. Fuck spelling.

  • April 11, 2012, 11:13 a.m. CST

    That was something that was interesting to me.

    by kevred

    I think you're the only person in the entire world saying that, fella. Good luck.

  • Hundreds, thousands maybe, of stories have been written without needing to mess with fundamental concepts of the character. It's true that, over time, a lot of comic stories have done worse things than any film ever will (the clone saga, anyone? One of the worst ideas ever allowed to live in any comic book, ever). But still. There are more cool stories and characters already in print than will ever be made into films. And filmmakers of today still feel the need to start from scratch, as though there's nothing new to work with.

  • April 11, 2012, 11:19 a.m. CST

    Read Ultimate Spider-man.

    by jimbojones123

    They created the Venom as a suit to fight cancer in the same lab as the spider came from. Parents were super spies. Worst part of the Ultimate book.

  • April 11, 2012, 11:20 a.m. CST

    I still say it feels like they finally got Spidey right

    by gotilk

    attitude-wise. That alone doesn't make a great movie, I admit, but it's a plus.

  • April 11, 2012, 11:24 a.m. CST

    The Ultimates are terrible.

    by kevred

    Terrible ideas, terrible writing, lousy art. Hate to say it, but feel compelled to.

  • April 11, 2012, 11:25 a.m. CST

    nah, will definitely skip it.

    by schnipple

    I've been skipping a lot of bad movies and bad concepts these days. Instead of moaning and groaning about remakes, prequels, sequels, and superhero stories about "orphans" I advise everyone to give the studios and a big fuck you. I'm in here because Spiderman is one of my favorite comics. First, they cast a British dildo in his late twenties who can yes act but has ZERO CHARISMA to play a teenage Peter Parker. Second, they release that clip with the doorman which is like the lamest "real" version of the scene with Tobey Maguire and Bruce Campbell but without any of the wit or humor or character development. Third, they release a trailer with all the action scenes shot like a poor man's version of the Dark Knight. Everything is dark and gritty, when Spidey has always been vibrant and flip. Fourth, Marc Webb is talking about a trilogy explaining Spidey's parents??? WTF Haven't we seen this with almost every tent pole film in the last twenty years. There's an orphan. He discovers he has some kind of special power or responsibility. He also learns he is part of some kind of group, community, school, company. Then the orphan discovers someone in that group he admires betrayed his parents. Now it's his responsibility to bring that villian down. 500 days of summer was not that great. It's already losing its lustre and its only been a few years. I don't care if the "critics" give this a 70+ on rottentomatoes. I am sick and tired of the studios repackaging the same movies and jamming it into four thousand screens with tens of millions of dollars in marketing. so, again, nah, I won't be seeing it.

  • April 11, 2012, 11:26 a.m. CST

    Dunno why they are bothering with the parents stuff

    by Brigon

    I can't see this movie getting a sequel after the slating it will get at the box office.

  • April 11, 2012, 11:29 a.m. CST

    My concern...

    by Sean1701

    is that, once again, Spidey loses his mask during an epic battle. This summer, Spidey, Captain America & Batman will lose their mask at one point. It seems cliche at this point.

  • April 11, 2012, 11:34 a.m. CST

    Hope this goes the way of Superman Returns...

    by Andrew Coleman

    They gave Supes a son... Audiences got it to $200 million BO but it wasn't enough. I hope that happens here... Everything is wrong. They a remaking the movie... But yet they are admitting they have messed up the origin. The villain will be a CGI mess. The action will be all at night(Dark Knight rip off)... Everything is wrong. I hope this is a swing and a miss... Then a couple years from now we get a real Spider-man film that is in the day... Not a messed up villain, etc.

  • Tucker Carlson:Spider-Man

  • April 11, 2012, 11:36 a.m. CST

    Thwip! Swing! Ptchooow! Swing! Flip! Wooo! Swinging from ropes! Wooo!

    by UltraTron

    The end.

  • Dude, seriously, is this guy smoking some good crack, he alerady sees multiple sequels? He's a friggin moron. This movie is going to bomb, period. No one wants to see someting that is THIS off the origin. You can't compare it to the Star Trek reboot cuz that storyline is a seperate time completely. AND that Kirk and Spock's origins were really not explained 'fully' so there was room to play. As someone said earlier, the movies people want to see are "Avengers", "Promethus" etc. NOT Spider-Man! -Rex

  • Arrrrgggghhhghgghgghgggggggggh.

  • April 11, 2012, 11:46 a.m. CST

    Orphans even. I dont know what an ophan is.

    by tomdolan04

    Maybe they need an origin story too. Delivered in a mysterious suitcase.

  • April 11, 2012, 11:48 a.m. CST

    And all this so he can fight a Gorn.

    by cookylamoo

  • April 11, 2012, 11:50 a.m. CST

    So the pearls hit the ground one more time

    by Mugato5150

    Oh, wrong franchise but really, fucking again?

  • April 11, 2012, 11:53 a.m. CST

    They serious could have opened this like a James Bond intro

    by tomdolan04

    Spidey already in full swing kicking ass, quipping and having fun. His enemy defeated they shake their fist and shout 'Spidermaaaan'!. He rips off the mask at the end of the fight, looks at the baddie and with a wink at the audience says 'you were expecting someone else'? Or hell...'To be or not Tobey'! Seriously thats it. And the audience wouldnt have batted a fucking eyelid. Done in 5mins. <p> Instead - a two hour origin with more angst and mysterious parents. Awesome...

  • April 11, 2012, 12:01 p.m. CST

    Yes.

    by schnipple

    except the to be line...

  • April 11, 2012, 12:01 p.m. CST

    No way will this be a John Carter

    by Von_Trierstein

    Way more appeal to the average moviegoer. ANY spider man movie will rake in the cash like a mad dog and make no apologies to the nerd populace. Who the fuck wants movies to fail anyways? Do you enjoy watching hundreds of millions of dollars go to waste? Watching studios that still put out good stuff from time to time teeter on the edge of bankruptcy? Awesome! Good for you! Being that reactionary from just hearing a few plot points is so retarded. Do this many 40 year olds really get upset that a Spider man movie isn't going to live up to their oh-so-demanding expectations? Fuck canon and origins and all that... I just want to see some douchebags run around in costumes for a couple of hours.

  • April 11, 2012, 12:04 p.m. CST

    With Merrick on the continuity thing...

    by impetus

    It's really pretty absurd to throw away the Raimi trilogy. While it was unabashedly cheesy, it was also a huge success. More importantly, there was an undercurrent of creating and establishing characters like Dr. Connor, Betty Brant, Flash, Robbie, and later the Stacys. These are characters who are important in the comics and having them around means they don't need hasty introductions later if they become leading characters on a future film (something most comic movies are guilty of). The reboot would be better served to make use of that basis and just add to the rich world that's already set up. Punisher:War Zone made the same mistake, presenting Frank's history in a way that intentionally contradicted the previous movie, even there was no story-related reason to do so. The intentional break just wasn't necessary. It could've been left open and up to the viewer to consider them related or not. The Incredible Hulk, on the other hand, was essentially a reboot with its swapped cast, but left the history vague so it could be regarded as a direct sequel to the first Hulk movie, or its own separate new identity. Fan choice - smart!

  • April 11, 2012, 12:04 p.m. CST

    Do Spider-Man 2099

    by Jaster Mareel

    Now THAT would be fresh and new! While I'm on the subject, Warner should start pre-production on BATMAN BEYOND! Warner were prepping two different Batman film tracks at the same time and were going to decide which one they wanted to pursue. The other was called The Intimidation Game and was Batman vs. Scarecrow. It was based on a pretty fucking awesome script that I believe was submitted by a fan, but which Warner really saw as a way forward. Look for that script online because it's a great read. The other possible franchise was Batman Beyond. But then Goyer and Nolan showed up and blew them the fuck away. The Intimidation Game got rolled into Batman Begins as a B plot, obviously stripped way down.

  • April 11, 2012, 12:06 p.m. CST

    Peter Parker's Parents

    by Andrew

    Alliteration aside, I don't think this film is necessary. It's too soon after the Sam Raimi films. On the other hand, I've always wondered about his parents. I know it doesn't really matter to the story, but I'm kind of excited now to see this avenue explored.

  • I can see him working well with villains like Clayface, Man-bat, and Killer Croc. Maybe some Firefly. Mix it up--bring in some fresh villains.

  • April 11, 2012, 12:27 p.m. CST

    Yeah, we don't need to do that Superman Returns, shoe-horning bullshit

    by Jaster Mareel

    Just make a fucking GOOD Spider-Man 4. But I guess they thought they couldn't do that without Raimi and company. It should have been the lizard, no question. And they could have kept that same guy. Just recast Mary Jane and Peter. The rest probably would have stayed, and we would have WANTED them to stay. Spidey stories did occassionally venture towards horror and those are the ones I like the best. Man-Spider would have been awesome, but obviously that will never be a live-action film because it would scare the shit out of the wee ones. Ok, so Spidey 4 is lizard with perhaps Kraven coming to NY to hunt it. Spidey 5 is the return of Venom and the creation of Carnage with Spidey and Venom eventually teaming up to stop Carnage. Spidey 6 is Scorpion and Rhino.

  • April 11, 2012, 12:27 p.m. CST

    New Catwoman Promo Art Link...

    by FreeBeer

    http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=89089

  • April 11, 2012, 12:29 p.m. CST

    So, who said Ann Hathaway wasn't hot enough to play Catwoman again?

    by FreeBeer

  • April 11, 2012, 12:35 p.m. CST

    Silver lining...

    by Darth Macchio

    Well..if this does suck..and I hope it doesn't...but if it does suck, then that will be good reason to reboot Spider-man in 5 or so years, no? (hopefully under Marvel at least) Arguably not unlike what 'Superman Returns' did for the upcoming 'Man of Steel'?

  • April 11, 2012, 12:39 p.m. CST

    RE: NOT a radioactive spider.....Michael Bay says to chill

    by David

  • April 11, 2012, 12:39 p.m. CST

    "Webb's a great director," by melanie_griffiths_sour_patch

    by Joe Plumber

    Based on what? He did a good job on 500 Days of Zooey, but one film does not a great director make. I'll say it again, the only reason dude go this gig is because of his last name.

  • April 11, 2012, 12:42 p.m. CST

    Merrick, the Star Trek comparision isn't quite right.

    by impetus

    The course of events changed in that universe, but it's still the same literal universe in an alternate timeline. That might be a mere verbal gimmick if not for the fact that old Spock (Nimoy) ties them together by existing in both branches. The original timeline is real because he lived it. It's his history, as real as anything that happens to him now. The new timeline is equally real because it's the path the universe has now taken. It's a smart setup that validates TOS while forging a new path. Totally different from the Spidey approach (from what we can tell so far): forget the original, here's the new version.

  • April 11, 2012, 12:42 p.m. CST

    It totally looks like Webb is Harry Potterizing and Twilightizing Spidey

    by Joe Plumber

    Secret dead parents/destiny = HP Emo Peter Parker = Twilight

  • April 11, 2012, 12:46 p.m. CST

    spewbacca, you may be right

    by Joe Plumber

    But, I am not seeing this in the theater. And I will not be spending 5.99 to rent it OnDemand. But, I will rent it on Netflix, which works out to around a dollar something.

  • Obviously they're not going to put that in the trailer.

  • April 11, 2012, 12:52 p.m. CST

    @ tomdolan04 - GENIUS.

    by impetus

    Love the "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" nod, and your Tobey quip was priceless. Nicely done.

  • April 11, 2012, 1:05 p.m. CST

    Wrath_of_fett, what you said earlier about kids movie.

    by adeceasedfan

    It's true. Children love Spiderman. Does this mean it has to be dumbed down? Hell no! But fun with some crazy action. This does not need the Dark Knight treatment.

  • April 11, 2012, 1:11 p.m. CST

    This will be a hit

    by Gay_Alan

    Spiderman has a huge built in fanbase. It can't fail to gross at least half a billion world wide. Spiderman appeals to all age ranges from little children to old men. They would have to make a terrible movie for this to fail at the box office. He has a bigger appeal than Batman and Superman, so a lot of people are going to give this a chance. Most parents won't be taking their kids to Prometheus or TDKR, they're taking them watch Spiderman.

  • April 11, 2012, 1:15 p.m. CST

    Yes my son loves Spider-Man

    by Jaster Mareel

    He's only 1 1/2 and doesn't really even get what the hell Spider-Man is, but he loves him. I bought him Spider-Man 3 on DVD (it was in the $5 bin at Wal-Mart) and we watch that all the time. I've tried to show him the first two, but there's just not as much action and he really loves Sandman. So I can't help but look at this new film through his eyes and wonder why they're doing it the way they are. Spidey's supposed to be brightly lit with bold colors.

  • But now, because of TDK, they've been given 'edge'. Pisses me right off.

  • April 11, 2012, 1:29 p.m. CST

    wrath_of_fett: So we need a clown-shoes Spidey because of your crappy kid?

    by Dr_PepperSpray

    He'll get over it.

  • How about a series of Spider-Man movies that doesn't have the mindset of the mid-40s demographic? That sounds like fun!

  • April 11, 2012, 1:34 p.m. CST

    Man, this movie irks me.

    by DoctorWho?

    Not feeling it at all.

  • I believe this new film takes its cue from that comic book series. So it follows some form of canon I think. Although in that respect I guess pretty much everyone in this film should learn spidey's secret identity. Anyhow, I'm not really looking forward to this film. But I think Webb is a fine director and Garfield is without a doubt one of my favorite actors of his generation(although he is too old to play spider-man), so I guess I will see this with an open mind.

  • April 11, 2012, 1:56 p.m. CST

    I have to throw this out there once....

    by darthSaul666

    I have to geek out on this for a minute... I'd imagine I'm not the only person who has been tracking this flick's news since they annouced production like a couple years ago... Hey anyone remember that the early buzz for this flick was that Nu Spidey would be like 99% CGI free? Then the trailers came and that debate came to a screeching halt... If a Spidey flick could be mostly CGI free it would have been made in like 1985... Then there was buzzing that Nu Spidey would be more authentic take on the character... Now the director is basically admitting to taking the throw shit on a wall approach... Enjoy your wisecracks....

  • April 11, 2012, 2:06 p.m. CST

    @strongsteven , reward yourself by guzzeling my load.

    by the Green Gargantua

  • April 11, 2012, 2:29 p.m. CST

    "No need to wrap it up, we'll get a sequel!" WORKED FOR JOHN CARTER

    by Adelai Niska

  • April 11, 2012, 2:37 p.m. CST

    The Catwoman photos are actually Cool News

    by Iahael

    Why did he name this site after a line from a miserably forgettable Travolta/Slater crapfest? Well, anyway, the feeling of "meh" about this reboot is growing, at least for me-- and no Catwoman pics, the real news of the day. T.'.

  • April 11, 2012, 2:55 p.m. CST

    AMEN!

    by JohnnyKrypton

    This is just getting farther from the core of the character...

  • April 11, 2012, 2:56 p.m. CST

    This movie will be lost

    by Cruizer Dave

    It will not be the megahit the first Spider-Man movies were. It'll be lost and forgotten between Avengers and Dark Knight.

  • I never read any of the Spidey comics. Watched a few of the animated shows as a kid, but was never really that interested. That said, I watched the Raimi films with my wife. We liked them, especially the first one. Third was a bit of a miss, but passable. For us, the movies defined the story. Maguire pretty much is Peter Parker for us. The movies aren't technologically or visually dated. There have to be a _lot_ of people in this demographic. So I simply cannot understand why anyone would bother with a reboot. My family and I won't see it simply because we've already seen the "Spider-Man" movies and we'd rather watch something new. How in the world is anyone thinking this is a good idea, at least from an economic point of view? Are there really that many people that found so much fault with the Raimi films that they are willing to spend money on some kind of cinematic "do-over"?

  • April 11, 2012, 3:25 p.m. CST

    About the night-fighting Spidey...

    by Rick Webb

    He does have school during the day, and crime doesn't wait for the weekend, folks. Also, his parents were interesting when we didn't know anything about them (as in they were fucking dead).

  • April 11, 2012, 3:27 p.m. CST

    One more thing:

    by Rick Webb

    McFarlane's Spider-Man was brilliant. Carry on.

  • April 11, 2012, 3:32 p.m. CST

    The most important thing to ME is the Doorman.

    by where_are_quints_hobbit_set_reports

    They need to get that crucial piece of the Parker origin story correct... and from what I've seen, it looks like they're sticking close to canon. Phew! For me, no doorman=no spiderman. Parker's legendary interaction with a prickish doorman has always been, for me, the emotional heart and the key to who and what Spiderman is. It's the crux of Parker's hero journey-- when I heard that in early versions of this script, they were toying with "updating" the scene to an interaction with a snooty hotel concierge or an uptight restaurant mait're d', I started a huge online twitter petition that got like 12,000 signatures in three hours. Thank GOD the studio listened!!! Can't wait to nestle into my seat with a big bag of popcorn and watch the doorman sequence unfold on the big screen the way it SHOULD have been in the first set of movies... no hammy scene-stealing Bruce Campbell this time around. I HATE how Raimi turned that crucial and emotional interchange into a dumb joke. Thank GOD for the reboot!!

  • Younger artists are doing their own things with the character now, without trying to outdo McFarlane's exaggerations.

  • April 11, 2012, 3:36 p.m. CST

    YOU KNOW THE SUPERHERO GENRE IS GETTING LONG IN THE TOOTH

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    WHEN THEY REBOOT SPIDERMAN AND ITS A RIP OFF OF BATMAN AND TWILIGHT FACT

  • April 11, 2012, 3:36 p.m. CST

    still (somewhat) hopeful about this movie. i like garfield in this.

    by dahveed1972

  • April 11, 2012, 3:38 p.m. CST

    Been here before...

    by kubricksnutsack

    Regarding the origin of Spider-Man and whether or not the spider is radioactive. Could it be we are heading down a similar origin route to Ang Lee's Hulk movie in which Banner's gamma blast unlocked a genetic condition already programmed inside him? So perhaps his parents were geneticists and caused his condition to be dormant and it is unlocked by a humble spider bite? If so, I call BULLSHIT now. As everyone has said before, the story of Peter Parker revolves around him being an orphan and being so attached to his aunt and uncle. No more, no less...

  • April 11, 2012, 3:40 p.m. CST

    daddylonghead, that is some top notch sarcasm there

    by Joe Plumber

    Bravo, sir!

  • April 11, 2012, 3:45 p.m. CST

    The problem with canon is that it strangles the filmmaker

    by severianx1

    Not the good ones. If you can't tell a good story that follows the canon of the source material you're using, then you probably can't tell a good story, period.

  • I could have sworn I saw a movie just like this recently on F/X. I thought they were doing a sequel for that with Vulture.

  • April 11, 2012, 4:34 p.m. CST

    @freebeer LINK? WHERE IS THE LINK FOR THE CATWOMAN PICS?

    by KilliK

    GIVE IT FFS.

  • As for Spiderman, well, since we have yet to get a Spiderman that is just like the one in the comic books, its a tad silly to go "exploring". Why not first do it right, then go exploring.

  • April 11, 2012, 4:47 p.m. CST

    Who cares about his fucking parents?

    by Mr. Pricklepants

    However, the movie does look promising, judging from the trailer. But yeah, it ain't exactly original. Sam Raimi more or less told the same years 10 years ago.

  • April 11, 2012, 4:47 p.m. CST

    If they were truly ballsy..they'd do the latest Spiderman...

    by Darth Macchio

    ..the non-white kid version (I believe he's Hispanic?). Do something we actually HAVEN'T seen in a superhero movie - the super hero DIES. For real! And then someone takes his/her place...? Isn't that something we haven't seen? Someone else mentioned making 'Batman Beyond' and prepping 'Nightwing', etc... I don't know the Spidey newer comics but I believe that happened? Either Parker dies or ends up in another future time or something but there's a new Spidey with same classic powers but he's a Hispanic kid still in high-school (I think). That is something we haven't seen. Odd how they're considering this "a different" approach or "the untold story" when it looks to be exactly the same story from the first movie, the cartoon, the comics, the books, the fucking Electric Company Spidey clips from the 70s...

  • The parents angle was always pointless. It never impacted how he became spiderman. If you want to reboot and go back to high school its fine just dont overuse this parents story to justify it. Spiderman in the early books was always about melodrama mostly having to do with all of parkers money problems and being hated by the city he is protecting.

  • ...and I was wrong. It turned out to be one of the better films of last year. I still don't get why we have to explore (read: screw with) Spidey's origin yet again. I would rather have done what they did with the reboot of the Incredible Hulk -- just explain it all in the opening credits and move on.

  • April 11, 2012, 5:12 p.m. CST

    Raimi's Origin did not have a radioactive spider

    by Mockingbuddha

    It was a genetically engineered spider. So was the spider in Ultimate Spider Man. Because no one buys radiation giving powers anymore. We know it just causes cancer. I am mad that they changed the organic web shooters to mechanical. THAT is the one piece of canon I can't believe they changed.

  • April 11, 2012, 5:31 p.m. CST

    It won't be a Star Trek. This will be the Spidey version of Superman Returns

    by Chuck_Chuckwalla

    Good enough actors. A couple of good action sequences. Some genuine heart. But pretty fucking boring ass movie on the whole.

  • April 11, 2012, 5:32 p.m. CST

    No Radioactive spider means this is not Spider Man

    by Tim Tringle

    Why not do a Spiderman movie without Peter Parker at all while your at it. The comic books have already screwed that pooch, why not make it a gangbang. I really don't understand adaptations that insist on completely diverging from the source material, what the fuck is the point of making the movie then? Sam Raimi for all the faults of the last film he did, at least stuck to the original story lines and didn't turn Peter into a girl or anything. God knows what these dumb ass producers and directors will come up with next.

  • Some if not most Spidey fans will be pissed.

  • April 11, 2012, 6:04 p.m. CST

    The only way I'd have been interested in this reboot

    by wcolbert

    would have been if they'd set it in the future, Parker had a kid he named Peter Parker Jr., and they went from there. A hell of a lot more point to that than re-booting a franchise that had its last movie released just a few years ago. Seriously. There is virtually no point in sending him back to high school, re-casting Peter, or any of it. I don't want to see SpiderKID. I want to see SpiderMAN, as in grown-ass man in his 20's or at least in college - not some emo teenager. Tobi McGuire, for me, was great for the part. I look at this guy and I don't see spiderman. I see a kid. Yes, the guy is actually slightly older than me- in his 20's...but the problem is he looks like a kid of 17 or 18 (as I'm often told I do - a problem i'm familiar with). Tobi looked young for his age, but at least he didn't look like an emo little child. Most importantly, the guy is just wrong for the part. He doesn't look like any iteration of Peter Parker. Most of all I'm just annoyed by the way this is basically insulting the perfectly good Spiderman movies by re-booting them when they didn't NEED to be. Even 3 wasn't THAT bad - have you SEEN the 2003 Hulk? Now that was boring beyond belief. As it stands, I'd have seen another McGuire/Rami movie...I will not pay to see this. On a side note...ironically, as I was writing this, a big black spider went crawling across my lap. Weird. And I'm not even kidding.

  • April 11, 2012, 6:40 p.m. CST

    Re: SPIDER-MAN (And Where They're Going Wrong) ...

    by ArmageddonProductions

    A complete reboot would have made sense if it were along the lines of trying to ret-con THE HULK (and the Ang Lee apologists can continue going on and on about how it's "so underrated", but whatever it was trying to accomplish, what it didn't accomplish was being a good "Hulk" movie and getting asses in the theater seats, two things that the semi-mindless reboot at least got right -- along with setting up THE AVENGERS), but the Raimi SPIDER-MAN series only had one misstep out of the three (Part Three, obviously), and even that misstep broke box office records. The only reason this isn't SPIDER-MAN 4 is because Raimi left and took Maguire with him. That alone should not have killed the series; even back on Part Two, they were pretty much dead-set on replacing Maguire with Jake Gyllenhal because Maguire wanted too much money, until Maguire's girlfriend's dad (who just so happened to be the head of Universal) wrote a letter on his behalf and settled the deal. Raimi had actually succeeded in making the movies themselves the thing (think of the last time you raced to see a Tobey Maguire or Kirsten Dunst movie because Tobey Maguire or Kirsten Dunst were in it?) and they had a stable-enough thing going on that they could have continued the series ad infinitum ... or, at least until it degenerated ala the BATMAN series with BATMAN & ROBIN.</p><p> Instead, this is happening. I'm not against a do-over, especially if they can upgrade the dodgy CGI from Part One and make adjustments to the character of Peter Parker/Spider-Man that were a bit lacking from Raimi's version (Maguire pulled off the the "downtrodden nerd" schtick quite well, but was pretty much a zero as Spider-Man, who was always a Bugs Bunny-style wisecracker), but nothing about this movie appears to be giving it a reason to exist. The new costume looks terrible, Garfield seems both miscast and uncomfortable, the additional backstory appears to bring too much baggage to a classically-lean origin story and the bad guy this time around looks designed to make us all recant all the bitching we did about the Green Goblin, the Green Goblin's Xtreme Dirtbiker Kid and quasi-Venom from the first three movies. Plus, this is pretty much the worst summer they could have picked to experiment with the franchise in such a way, especially since it goes head to head with THE DARK KNIGHT RISES.

  • April 11, 2012, 7:57 p.m. CST

    nobody cares about this movie....

    by yeah i'm a jerk!

    It's going to get lost in the shuffle between the Avengers and the Dark Knight. Prometheus is the only other movie that interests me. This Spidey flick looks ill conceived on every level.

  • April 11, 2012, 8:07 p.m. CST

    = two things that the semi-mindless reboot at least got righ=

    by KilliK

    WTF are you talking about? The rebooted HULK cost more and grossed less than Ang Lee's Hulk.The first Hulk is the bigger hit here not the rebooted one. And which version is the better Hulk movie that is debatable,i personally consider both good adaptations with their own flaws and strengths with Lee's version the superior one.In fact i believe that Lee made one of the,generally speaking, greatest super-hero comic-book movies ever,something that the average joe cant comprehend.

  • its grosses will guarantee more sequels.no matter how awful the reboot will turn out to be.Mindless Fanboys eat this superhero shit like candies.

  • ...it's just muddying the water and feels pretty irrelevant, kinda like X: First Class with it's weak arse cast of characters (apart from the familiar ones, hey Hollywood, they were popular for a reason!!) Feels like an alternative universe, Ben Riley-style cock-up, and no-one gives 2 shits about him now. I'm not writing it off just yet, but I'm getting a whiff of the SuperMan Returns, ie: 2/3rds hate.

  • April 11, 2012, 8:34 p.m. CST

    @killik: I got love for Lee's Hulk too, the Gamma Dogs were aces..

    by steve lee

    ..., the desert showdown well-handled and the stylized comic-panel approach was quite nifty but I thought Nick Nolte's Power-Dad was a bit crap, shoulda been a straight monster like Hulk, not some weird electro/T-1000 hybrid, got a bit supernatural. Also, Hulk grew a little too much when he got angrier, looked like an inflatable! So annoying when a flik has many elements right then fucks up one or two aspects...oh well, not gonna change any time soon!

  • April 11, 2012, 8:49 p.m. CST

    Ang Lee's Hulk

    by hulkiest

    I liked it better than the reboot too. Lee's suffered from overthinking and convolution, but the reboot had no style whatsoever. That fight with Abomination was one big nothing and the reboot was scene for scene a soul-less remake: the army scene was more of the same without Ang Lee's visual finesse, the fight at the end just as anticlimactic and you know, I had to laugh at Louis Letterier ripping off the Bourne Identity in the beginning with the rooftops and then doing nothing with it. I'm thinking, "Oh, cool, they're going to riff on that cliche with Banner Hulking out mid jump." (And why not again? His heart rate doesn't escalate while jumping on rooftops?) Nope. Where do they end up after shamelessly employing cliche #3 in 21st century film making? IN AN ABANDONED WAREHOUSE!! Anyway, as I've said before I hated the Raimi Spiderman films so I'm taking a wait and see for this one. It looks okay. But yeah, I can't see why they're doing the origin again. Any number of the ideas mentioned above would work fine, minus time wasting in the radioactive spider lab.

  • April 11, 2012, 8:57 p.m. CST

    But Hulk reboot had...

    by hulkiest

    Tim Blake Nelson in a stellar scene stealing sequence. (Doing my Stan Lee schtick there) His performance made the film worth seeing. Too bad he wasn't the center of the movie.

  • ...always looks like he's being inflated (oo-er) with a bike pump! They need to look at American Werewolf for true bone-cracking, painful growth spurts! Obviously, he can't take that long about it, but needs to be that visceral level, certainly make the kids wretch into their popcorn buckets, heh!

  • April 11, 2012, 9:50 p.m. CST

    New Origin...

    by ericinwisconsin

    He's the sole survivor of the plant, Spideron. Rocketed to Earth by his scientist parents, he's found by kindly Ben & May, who raise them as their own. Since childhood, he has displayed the spider-powers all people from Spideron exhibit when exposed to Earth's lighter gravity and yellow solar rays. Either that, or to avenge his parents' death, he trains himself in both body and mind to develop his latent spider-abilities. "Criminals are supersitious, cowardly lot. My costume must strike fear into their hearts. I shall become a... a..." Just then, an ordinary spider lights on his should and bites him. "Ouch, fucking spider!" he mumbles and swats is away. "Now where was I?"

  • April 11, 2012, 10:39 p.m. CST

    Ang Lee's Hulk

    by TheDesolateOne

    <p>Man, I've always liked that film a lot.<p> <p>I remember this article:<p> <p>http://www.thefilmjournal.com/issue7/hulk.html<p> <p>I thought this guy really got it.<p>

  • April 11, 2012, 11:14 p.m. CST

    Love SM3

    by Keith

    Seriously underrated. A mess, but a totally entertaining one. And fucking hilarious in places.

  • April 11, 2012, 11:15 p.m. CST

    Least good Raimi S-M

    by Keith

    Is 2.

  • Hit the nail on the head, guy. I'm also sick to death of the trope of the Chosen One who must discover the truth of his origins. It only seems to lead to inert narratives where the back story is more important than the story at hand. It's one of the things I deeply disliked about Abrams' Trek and why I will never be able to count myself much of a fan. The character of James T. Kirk was originally defined as someone with hugely adult responsibilities and a natural thirst for knowledge and exploration; he was a *man*. In the reboot he's a punk kid living in the shadow of his heroic father. His entire motivation was to live up that; no grown-up dilemmas for that guy, just a rote adherence to the cliche of fulfilling a heroic destiny. And it seems every movie hero these days is chasing that arc: the child/adolescent lacking in the knowledge or power to face his/her responsibilities until some mentor/ghost of dead parent/authority figure clues them in to why they are so awesome and full of magic and will probably win in the end by virtue of their divine fucking lineage. One type of audience surrogate creates suspense and identification by asking "what action would you take in this situation" the other story holds the audience's hand and says "don't worry, destiny's got it all worked out. The Chosen One is gonna win and, by extension, so will you the wide-eyed viewer'. It's pandering bullcrap for babies. And it's the reason this reboot does not inspire any confidence in me, at all.

  • http://splashpage.mtv.com/2012/04/11/catwoman-avenger/#more-62648

  • LoL

  • April 12, 2012, 12:30 a.m. CST

    I liked Ang Lee's Hulk

    by Rick Webb

    I thought I had somewhere to go with that (besides back to the fridge for a beer), but I was wrong.

  • April 12, 2012, 12:33 a.m. CST

    dahveed1972

    by Rick Webb

    His art stands out the most for me, probably because that was when I began collecting comics obsessively (not that there is really any other way to do it). I haven't read any (besides The Death of Captain America) in years.

  • The manufactured non-mystery of his parents won't sustain anyone's interest for one movie, let alone "a few".

  • April 12, 2012, 1:19 a.m. CST

    It would be awesome if the parents come back as zombies in the second movie

    by Domi'sInnerChild

    or alien vampires.

  • April 12, 2012, 5:05 a.m. CST

    Marc Webb is a sellout mfer

    by Rupee88

    And I loved that movie he did with Zooey. But he's fucking up Spider-Man just for a paycheck...yeah maybe a great career move but still makes him a douche

  • April 12, 2012, 7:06 a.m. CST

    @laserbrain: At least Cap. America bucks the trend...

    by steve lee

    ...however it was still an average film for me, but I defo agree, didn't realize that thread was so prevalent till you pointed it out. Thor, fair enough, that's what he's always been about, but even Indy was trying to impress his dad initially and Iron Man obv. in fathers shadow I guess Hulk (discounting Ang Lee version), DarkMan and Spawn are "self-made" men as far as we know and Bats was a product of what happened to his parents, but yeah, if you look at these type of films as a whole, it's probably about 50/50, but currently that lineage thru-line is getting over-played.

  • April 12, 2012, 8:18 a.m. CST

    I didn't care for any of the Raimi movies

    by aegri_mentis

    One of the few mainstays in whatever incarnation Spider-Man had in the comics was he was a shy, awkward kid, who became a witty ass kicker when he donned the costume. With "Ol' Mush Mouth Maguire", we didn't get ANY witty remarks. I know the actor can only deliver the lines given him, but did ANYONE think the writers or producers thought Maguire could mumble his way through some Spider-Man patter mid-fight? Maguire was WRONG for the part from the get-go. I've often wondered if he was the first choice or not. Amazingly, in SM3, when Topher Grace played Brock, we got to see who should have been Parker from the first movie. Grace would have been perfect. He was an excellent smart ass in "That '70s Show", and he was my first choice to play Parker.

  • April 12, 2012, 8:29 a.m. CST

    If Bruce Campbell is your favorite...

    by Shankapotomus

    Character from the Rami Spider-Man movies, then you must have hated them and can't wait for the reboot. Frankly, I don't blame you. Toby Maguire was an awful PP. Kirsten Dunst and her snaggle toothed Mary Jane was a travesty, and I kept waiting for James Franco's Harry Osborn to pull out a blunt. Thank God they're going to try to do it better. Anyone who thinks this will be a bust is a fool who is too tied up in comic books to understand that stories evolve over time to make them more interesting. They've re-written Shakespeare in a thousand ways over the years, adapting it to fit times or themes. I think Stan Lee can handle a little creative license witht he Spider-Man franchise. The question is: why can't the fan boys. Prediction: minimunm 200 million and two sequels. Deal with it, geeks.

  • April 12, 2012, 9:41 a.m. CST

    Emma Stone has a weird mouth.

    by Tristan

    I don't know why Jim Carrey wants to come in it.

  • April 12, 2012, 9:42 a.m. CST

    I have and always will love Spidey

    by HapaPapa72

    So I won't lie and say I refuse to see this. I'm a little worried, a little excited, and I'm gonna try to ignore the basketball rubber costume. If Marc Webb can cast Ashley Greene as MJ Watson in the next one, I'm there. I can't wait til they reboot Spidey a la X-Men First Class and set it in the 60s...

  • April 12, 2012, 9:50 a.m. CST

    I'm still confused. Is Venom going to be in this one?

    by Domi'sInnerChild

    How about Doc Ock? I remember the arms were still moving.

  • April 12, 2012, 10:15 a.m. CST

    thedesolateone

    by oisin5199

    That's a great piece. Articulates a lot of what I liked about the movie but couldn't quite put my finger on. One has to remember that this is the director who made Ice Storm and Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. Makes me want to see Lee's Hulk again.

  • April 12, 2012, 10:31 a.m. CST

    My retarded ramblings on Spider-Man 3:

    by Jaster Mareel

    I remember all the news trickling out about that film for years before it came out. The first we heard was there would be two villains, and Thomas Hayden Church was cast as one of them. We all collectively went =Sandman=, because he looks just like him. And we were all a bit dissapointed because Sandman is just a thug without any personality. I also associated Church with Wings and wasn't a big fan. He had just come out with Sideways before that, but I hated that movie. Then we heard the other villain was Venom and it was like a dream come true! But we started worrying because Sam had previously said he hated Venom and would never put him in a Spider-Man movie. Then the gut-punch of finding out Topher Grace would be Venom. OBVIOUSLY Sam didn't get the character at all. Around this time we heard Gwen Stacy would be in it, which is fantastic, and then that Bryce Dallas Howard would portray her. I don't think anyone has anything bad to say about her because she seems like a genuinely sweet and lovely person. She's also pretty cute...but Gwen Stacy? Didn't seem to be her character type. I was also annoyed that Sam hired a red head to play a blonde and a blonde to play a red-head. We read some early screening reviews and heard all the main stuff that we would eventuially witness like a bloody traffic accident in the theater. So we knew going in that our fears would be realized, but we remained hopeful that it was just =haterz=. one thing I remember specifically from a review was that Mary Jane SANG....TWICE!!! I was like, man what the fuck is going on with this series!? Sam is all over the fucking map with Mary Jane. He just hasn't been able to nail that character with 3 fucking films to do it. In the first film she's in love with 4 different people: Flash, Harry, Spider-Man and Peter. She's also an aspiring actress. In the second film, she's a model-actress. In the third movie she's singing in a musical. She sure keeps getting a lot of work for someone getting bad reviews. While we're talking about the girls, who the fuck is Gwen Stacy in Sam's mind? We know next to nothing about her, other than she is the Police Captain's daughter. And apparently...she's also a model? And yes, Topher Grace, while doing the best job he can...is NOT fucking Venom. There's so much wrong with this portrayal I can't stand it. It's in a meteorite that just HAPPENS to land next to the only super-powered being on Earth? The only thing I will say is that the creeping and crawling of the symbiote was cool-looking. The black costume is bullshit. It should look like patton leather or vinyl, with a big white spider on his chest. Instead they just dyed his normal costume black and it looks dumb. Man, don't even get me started on the weirdo emo shit. The shot where he stops, looks in teh mirror and pulls his hair down over one eye was like a sock to the nuts. All I can think of during this whole section of teh film, including the bizarre dancing in the club, is that this is what the DORK Sam Raimi thinks being a cool badass is. The disco dancing, the =now dig on this= shit, it's what he thought of that type of character growing up. And it is just a total and complete fail. Although the disco dancing is funny I have to admit. Totally fucking wrong and bizarre, but funny. Sandman killing Uncle Ben. You have GOT...to be FUCKING....KIDDING ME! This is ten times worse than Greedo shooting first. It's utter HORSESHIT! And just sort of fucks up the entire Spider-Man mythos. Not to mention the fact that it makes no goddamn sense. So Sandman is the getaway driver waiting outside....WITH NO FUCKING CAR? And let's not forget this is downtown New York, there are witnesses everywhere, but nobody saw there were two guys? Un-fucking-forgivable. What the fuck, at this point the whole thing is shit, so throw in Exposition Butler who has never been seen before and will never be seen again. Let me just interject here and say that first battle between Harry and Peter was the most horribly composited thing I've ever seen. It's just garbage and not befitting such a massive film. That scene was actually released early in a clip to get us excited and it looked even worse then. They obviously massaged it a bit, but it's still pretty rancid. The scene where the symbiote transfers to Brock is so fucking contrived and ridiculous. He goes to church...to pray for the death of Peter Parker. Get the fuck out of here. The action at the end of the film is pretty good, aside from Mary Jane getting kidnapped YET AGAIN. I mean, you'd think the news organizations would start to catch on. The effects are good in the last act and the only real problem I have is the weepy cryfest between Peter and Sandman as Spidey LETS. HIM. FUCKING. GO while saying =Yeah, I've done bad shit too.= Bullshit.

  • Superman Returns was a sequel. The new Star Trek is the same characters in an alternate timeline.

  • April 12, 2012, 12:21 p.m. CST

    Superman Returns was SORT of a sequel, but to Superman II

    by Jaster Mareel

    Which essentially makes the audience decide if Superman III and Superman IV will be canon or not. Because if tehy are, then obviously Superman Returns ISN'T because he didn't have a child in Superman III & IV. The only other way it makes sense is to say that Superman tapped dat ass sometime after Superman IV, which isn't impossible, but that's a pretty big piece to leave out. So it's a bullshit way to do it, is what I'm saying. superman Returns SHOULD have been a reboot because it added nothing to the Donner films.

  • ...now I wanna see him finally revel in his power a bit more and kick someone's/thing's ass which hopefully this'll bring! He can still be a Boy-Scout while doing so! Hey, if he is really a Boy-Scout, where is his Lex-Apprehension Badge, and his I-nailed-Lois-without drilling-her-into-to-the-centre-of-the-Earth Badge?

  • BZZZZZZZZT! Wrong answer! Let me know when you're more interested in Spidey's present and future and taking the story **forward** instead of twatting around in the past with 'mysteries' that nobody really gives half a fuck about.

  • ...along with Indy 4, Alien Resurrection, SuperMan IV, RoboCop 3, Mr. Binks, Star Wars: Special Edition and anything from Joel Schumacher (apart from Falling Down, that was a hella fun for a bit) Watch them slowly fade to oblivion in the twinkling night sky... Ah, it's good to have a spring-clean. No fuss, no muss!!

  • April 12, 2012, 2:23 p.m. CST

    If the Hollywood of yesteryear had reboot fever...

    by buggerbugger

    ...like those in charge of the studios today, we'd be currently on our, what, fifth or six 'intro' story for James Bond. Seriously, we'd never make it past the nth version of fucking 'Goldfinger'. "Oh noes, we had to recast the lead actor and the new director wants to set a different tone to the earlier movies, so we have to start all over again from scratch! Origin time! Except this time, a young James Bond is haunted by the mysterious disappearance of his parents (NOTE: They will be unmasked as the leaders of the sinister organization S.P.H.I.N.C.T.E.R. in Movie #3 if we make it that far this time)..." No. You. Don't. They didn't have to back then and you certainly don't have to keep doing it now, you useless lack-of-storytellers. A different tone? Different actors? I think we, as movie watchers, can deal with crazy shit like that without our fucking brains exploding out of our skulls in utter bewilderment. We used to do it all the time without any trouble whatsoever. We still could, if you gave us the fucking chance.

  • Same here. Once upon a time, 'Dirty' Harry Callahan didn't have to be the Chosen One to bring justice to the streets of San Francisco while uncovering the dark, mysterious past of his shamed, also-cop dad who went missing on a case when Harry was a kid. But these days... yeah, 'Dirty' Harry would be 'dirty' because it would be part of his destiny. "Do you feel lucky, punk? Well, do you? Well, luck's got nothin' to do with it, punk. Y'see, it's preordained." Coming 2014: Dirty Harry Tagline: Destiny is Dirty Business

  • April 12, 2012, 2:42 p.m. CST

    Wrath_of_Fett

    by prince_fufu

    We are of one mind.

  • April 12, 2012, 3:56 p.m. CST

    Eh. I'll give it a shot.

    by Rorschach1

    That's a frightening idea, as the radioactive spider is the SPIDER in Spider-man. But I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. Almost zero percent of Nolan's Batman franchise has roots in the comic, those have turned out pretty great (DKR pending). Garfield's still a great choice, and he has a tremendous amount of faith in Marc Webb so I'll be there. Plus, after Spider-man 3, it is literally all uphill. They could make Peter Parker a chubby Italian gentleman with a love for classical music and Bridget Jones movies and still be on par.

  • April 12, 2012, 5:21 p.m. CST

    Genetically altered spider, radioactive spider WHO CARES

    by Larry Sellers

    Christ they made that subtle change in the first movie, and I think even before that the Ultimate series changed it. WHO FUCKING CARES It ultimately doesn't matter. As for the web shooters...I think everything about the costume in this movie is going to be related to his dad's suitcase. Ultimately, that doesn't matter either. There are bigger things to worry about than character design and small details like those. They aren't the focal point of the movie. I'm looking more at the mystery plot that is meant to carry these movies and the characterization they've chosen for Peter.

  • April 12, 2012, 9:16 p.m. CST

    oisin5199

    by TheDesolateOne

    <p>Cool. :thumbsup:<p> <p>I'll always be a fan of that film no matter what the naysayers think.<p>

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