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Michael Bay And Platinum Dunes Are Looking To Get Their Hands On HALLOWEEN Next!!

The Kidd here...

The Michael Bay bashing has been running rampant around here lately, with Bay's recent comments concerning something as beloved and nostalgic as the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles being rebooted. I get the feeling business is about to pick up once again now that Bay and his Platinum Dunes production company are talking about a deal that would have them involved with the future of the HALLOWEEN franchise.

According to Bloody Disgusting, Platinum Dunes would take the command in making another Michael Myers film happen over at Dimension. Another sequel, this time in 3-D, had been planned for later this year before it was quietly pulled from the slate with no further details. Todd Farmer and Patrick Lussier had been involved in moving it forward, post-Rob Zombie, but it looks like they're going to be the odd men out with new directors and writers being sought. 

Let's take a look at Platinum Dunes history in horror over the years - THE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE remake, THE AMITYVILLE HORROR remake, the FRIDAY THE 13TH reboot, the NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET remake... 

Is anyone chilled enough to think HALLOWEEN is in capable hands given that track record with familiar horror properties?


-Billy Donnelly

"The Infamous Billy The Kidd"

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  • April 3, 2012, 11:32 a.m. CST

    Yes It is true.

    by HadWoodenTeethChasedMobyDick

  • April 3, 2012, 11:33 a.m. CST

    Platinum Dunes has no dick.

    by HadWoodenTeethChasedMobyDick

  • April 3, 2012, 11:33 a.m. CST

    How much old shit should we be recycling? Are we done yet?

    by Sardonicus

    Yes, pointless comment, but really now, enough already.

  • let it be.

  • April 3, 2012, 11:34 a.m. CST

    Michael Bay - "I must destroy the past to control the present"

    by Nerd Rage

  • April 3, 2012, 11:34 a.m. CST

    Yes it is true

    by coolhanddave

    this man has no dick.

  • April 3, 2012, 11:34 a.m. CST

    Well that's what I heard

    by coolhanddave

  • April 3, 2012, 11:35 a.m. CST


    by willact4food

  • April 3, 2012, 11:35 a.m. CST

    Just let it die already

    by eric haislar

    You mean to tell me no one can create a new slasher character. A original idea has to be out their.

  • April 3, 2012, 11:35 a.m. CST

    Michael Bay

    by DJJester

    Your a stupid bastard.

  • April 3, 2012, 11:36 a.m. CST

    Gee guess this will make the Rob Zombie versions

    by angry kitty

    Seem not so bad, eh?

  • April 3, 2012, 11:36 a.m. CST

    Zombie took away everything that made the Halloween movies work

    by sunwukong86

    The Halloween movies didn't need tons of blood and gore to be effective. Rob Zombie totally missed that point. Don't even get me started on Halloween 2, I still don't understand that movie.

  • even if he wanted to.So who knows,maybe the new reboot will turn out to be better with Bay;s involvement.

  • April 3, 2012, 11:36 a.m. CST


    by KilliK


  • April 3, 2012, 11:39 a.m. CST

    In true Bay fashion, it will be set during the Christmas season.

    by Robert Evans

  • April 3, 2012, 11:39 a.m. CST

    I guess this goes without saying, but...

    by Kremzeek

    I'll pass. It's gotten to the point where if Michael Bay *isn't* ruining a beloved property at least once a week, I'd be shocked.

  • April 3, 2012, 11:40 a.m. CST

    Just like the rob zombie versions

    by INWOsuxRED

    But with more lense flares.

  • April 3, 2012, 11:41 a.m. CST

    Couldn't be any worse than the Zombie abortions.

    by adeceasedfan

    Besides Carpenter's is untouchable.

  • April 3, 2012, 11:41 a.m. CST

    The title will be shortened to WEEN.

    by Robert Evans

    Michael Myers will wear a Boognish mask.

  • April 3, 2012, 11:41 a.m. CST

    Bay couldn't fuck it up more

    by Nerd Rage

    Famous last words.

  • April 3, 2012, 11:43 a.m. CST

    @nerd rage

    by Kremzeek

    HAH! Exactly!

  • April 3, 2012, 11:43 a.m. CST

    Never saw Zombieween but I did see Zombieween II

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Decent "new" slasher, but it could've been called anything, and didn't need powder face ghostmom.

  • April 3, 2012, 11:43 a.m. CST


    by Red Ned Lynch

    ...the night he came home.

  • April 3, 2012, 11:44 a.m. CST

    Was that the boogeyman?

    by Red Ned Lynch

  • April 3, 2012, 11:44 a.m. CST

    The fuck

    by Nerd Rage

    why can't we quote on the subject line??? Being that people quote each other on the talkbacks constantly.

  • April 3, 2012, 11:44 a.m. CST

    As a matter of fact...

    by Red Ned Lynch was.

  • April 3, 2012, 11:45 a.m. CST

    What was the last original Bay anything.......

    by Samuel Fulmer

    The Rock maybe. Armageddon was Meteor, Pearl Harbor was Titanic, Bad Boys II was a sequel, The Island was Clonus, and Transformers was a remake of the old cartoon just with teen comedy hijinks. I guess all his producing has been horror remakes too.

  • April 3, 2012, 11:45 a.m. CST

    April Fools?

    by JediRob

    It was an April 1st story. I know they said it wasn't the case, but I haven't heard a source other than BD.

  • April 3, 2012, 11:46 a.m. CST

    The evil is gone!

    by Red Ned Lynch

  • April 3, 2012, 11:47 a.m. CST

    It's appropriate the Bay produced Nightmare on Elm Street

    by Nerd Rage

    Because he's the real life Freddy Krueger. He kills our childhoods using our dreams. One-two, Michael Bay's coming for you.

  • April 3, 2012, 11:48 a.m. CST

    Only saw Texas Chainsaw and Amityville remakes

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Chainsaw was okay until they got to the house and they found kid Gollum in the basement, and the Amityville remake was okay until the last act where it became the Shinning (I guess they really wanted to remake that, but King already beat them to the punch with the TV movie).

  • I've fixed your headline for you.

  • April 3, 2012, 11:50 a.m. CST

    Is there going to be a Nightmare Pt. II???

    by Samuel Fulmer

    I'm not asking for one, I just thought the Jackie Earle remake made a decent profit.

  • April 3, 2012, 11:50 a.m. CST

    I loved the Rob Zombie remake

    by NightArrows

    It was much more sinister, much more of a decent into madness and a look at pure evil. I have a great love/fondness for the original, but I thought Rob Zombie took what worked and added to it in a way that really worked well. Plus Myers was much more of a physical presence/threat, highlighted in the bathroom scene with the trucker. The alternate ending to it was MUCH better than the theatrical version, Zombie should have gone with that one. As for another remake/reboot? Stupid.

  • April 3, 2012, 11:50 a.m. CST

    Ok so now i really am confused

    by Joe

    Is it a sequel to zombies movies? the originals or a whole new thing? Or do they not give a shit and dont even know themselves? fuck movies.

  • April 3, 2012, 11:50 a.m. CST

    Watch out childhoods!

    by Nerd Rage

    1,2, Michael Bay's coming for you 3,4, better lock the door 5,6, grub your crufix 7,8, gonna stay up late 9,10, never sleep again

  • April 3, 2012, 11:52 a.m. CST

    Youngins these days don't know jack

    by Obi Wanna Cannoli

    Why when I was younger we had pure evil characters coming out what seemed like every week in horror movies. Sure we didn't have these new fangled computers with their liggidy jiggidy special effects. We had a rubber mask, a hockey mask, burn scars, and a crap load of fake blood. Maybe we didn't have our movies in IMAX Digital Butt Clenching 3D but WE LIKED IT THAT WAY! Youngkin directors today are spoiled and lazy. Instead of coming up with their own memorable evil men they either steal from The Greats of the past or make movies about fish eating fake boobies. We need another World War to whip these youngkins into shape. Gramps With Crap In His Pants

  • April 3, 2012, 11:54 a.m. CST

    Coming soon: Platinum Dunes Ghostbusters remake.

    by hank henshaw

    Slimer will eat fried chicken, watermelon and drink orange Fanta. The final act, instead of a couple national guard trucks, will have full army support: helicopters, supercarriers, f-22s, etc.

  • April 3, 2012, 11:54 a.m. CST

    MIchael Bay has raped more childhoods than Freddy Kreuger

    by Mel

  • April 3, 2012, 11:56 a.m. CST

    Damn I do love...

    by Red Ned Lynch

    ...Halloween. I was kind of excited when they gave the property to Zombie, but he didn't understand what made the original work and by trying to make a real movie instead of a lifeless money haul managed to make one of the very worst of the remakes with what were probably the very best of intentions. His two Halloweens are just unwatchable. Platinum Dunes made a Friday the 13th that stands right in line with any of the later Friday sequels. It isn't a particularly bad slasher movie nor does it possess any quality that would particularly distinguish it. Their Texas Chainesaw Massacre was similarly professional and lifeless though as AsimovLives will tell you the presence of Jessica Biel automatically makes it my favorite among the Platinum Dunes efforts. A much longer drop in effectiveness between this and the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre than there is between the two Fridays, though. Their Amityville was a clean miss, though. And their Nightmare was just terrible, which is a shame because I think it was probably their most serious attempt to do justice to their source material. If they get Halloween it will be closer in flavor and probably less of a trainwreck than Zombie's. It may very well be as good or better than some of the later Halloween sequels. I guess I just don't care. I'll always be able to hear old Doctor Loomis scream that the evil is gone, or hear Laurie ask him about the boogey man, hear his answer, then see him look out the window at the empty back yard. All I have to do is close my eyes. Damn I do love Halloween.

  • April 3, 2012, 11:58 a.m. CST

    Why not Chucky?

    by br1947

    Don't know if it's Platinum Dunes or not, but as much as I hate Bay, I'd kinda like to see him do Chucky. It seems like one that could benefit from Bay-i-fication.

  • ...go for it. We have the originals to fall back on.

  • April 3, 2012, 11:58 a.m. CST

    Can we remake Michael Bay?

    by silentjay

  • April 3, 2012, 11:59 a.m. CST

    The thing I really don't get about Platinum Dunes...

    by Kremzeek

    None of their horror remakes have been huge successes. They didn't completely flop, no, but they weren't big box office extravaganzas either. So, why and how does Bay keep getting these contracts?! I just don't get it. Does the studio just say: Oh, all the other myriad of times he's tried to remake a well-established horror franchise have sucked pretty hard? GREAT! Let's make sure to hand over as many more of them as we can! How does this keep happening? I don't think any of them should be remade, frankly, but if you're going to do it... there's GOTTA be a better group of people to give the reigns to. There's just got to be! Why does Platinum Dunes' mediocre track record keep landing them the big horror franchises... esp. when none of them are any good? Frustrating. The film industry is completely in the shitter.

  • Can it?

  • Search your penis, you know it to be true.

  • April 3, 2012, 12:04 p.m. CST


    by Red Ned Lynch

    ...under twenty million budgets and bigger than twenty million opening weekends. Toss in foreign and ancillary and these movies quadruple or quintuple their budgets. At no risk. That's why.

  • April 3, 2012, 12:05 p.m. CST

    Waaaaaahhhh!!! then don't fucking watch it.

    by darth nihilus

  • April 3, 2012, 12:06 p.m. CST

    it's a serial movie about a serial killer that can't die, not Macbeth

    by darth nihilus

  • April 3, 2012, 12:08 p.m. CST

    Platinum Dunes = Forgettable Nostalgia

    by Big Bad Clone

    Other than a bad taste in my mouth, I have trouble remembering much from these remakes. Mostly, they've been boring as you wonder, "When will they get to the good part?" and then "How did the fuck up the good part?" when they get there. The only good thing to come from them is Julianna Guill's rack.

  • April 3, 2012, 12:08 p.m. CST

    There was only ever one good Halloween movie, and that was 34 years ago.

    by Jack Desmondi

    All the sequels sucked just like Zombie's remake did--it was only ever just a question as to which sucked worse. The concept of yet another re-boot of this series just goes to show how corrupt Bay's sould has become.

  • April 3, 2012, 12:10 p.m. CST

    Think he stills wears the "Frat Boy" costume from Mystery Men?

    by Darth Macchio

    I bet he does. And I bet he has a weathered picture of Jeanine Garofollo taped to the inside of his studio, all tattered and torn with her signature barely visible beneath the coffee and post-alcho/narco-binge sex stains but yet claims to hate her and her hairy-armpit and leg politics. He just wanted to eat lunch with her one day, not marry the girl for chrissakes! And I bet he has every frame of his scene posterized just in case. I bet he considers Geoffrey Rush a hack given that Rush was more professional rather than friendly during their scenes together. And he reads every comic you ever loved and thinks that comic and you, the reader, are childish dillholes and he knows the best way to take diaper fillin' fantasy we read and turn it into badass, non-R-rated exposed female flesh, with lots of fiery and loud explosions, fantasy. Not that that is a bad thing in and of itself - its not (like Piranha 3d, natch) but it shouldn't be the template for modern big-budget action films. And it is already. Whoopee. Of course - I haven't made multi-million dollar blockbuster movies like Bay has so I guess I shouldn't say anything until I do.

  • April 3, 2012, 12:11 p.m. CST

    The Night HE blew up the house!

    by JAGUART

    in spectacular fashion.

  • Don't see how a new film could possibly do anymore harm to the franchise. Really, there's nowhere to go but up at this point. That being said, and I'm not defending Zombies Halloween movies, but I did think they had a rather unique vision than what you'll find in your standard remake. Again, I didn't like the films. But I somehwat appreciated what Zombie was trying to do. I can't say the same thing about any of the Platnum Dunes remakes.

  • April 3, 2012, 12:12 p.m. CST

    I like all Platinum Dunes horror reboots to one extent or another

    by Jaster Mareel

    Considering the heaps of outright fucking garbage the horror genre has to suffer through, the Platinum Dunes stuff has actually been fairly refreshing. I'm still bummed they aren't doing another Jason movie because that was pretty badass.

  • April 3, 2012, 12:14 p.m. CST

    Someone should remake "honey i shrunk the kids"

    by darth nihilus

  • April 3, 2012, 12:17 p.m. CST

    The original Halloween was lightning in a bottle

    by matthooper8

    New camera techniques, a small budget that somehow looked amazing, a great score, the tone look and feel were once in a lifetime in horror. Most was JC's talent, but some was kinda just lucky. The Zombie films were first off, bad movies, like all his crap, but you can't re-make a genre changing monumental picture. The feeling and tone can't be repeated. I wonder if a new Halloween would be a continuation of the Zombie crap, or something new.

  • I guess maybe TMNT is a step in that direction, and then he'll give us a remake of Hocus Pocus and Jumanji.

  • April 3, 2012, 12:23 p.m. CST

    =can we reboot Michael Bay=

    by Nerd Rage

    Haha! Classic!

  • April 3, 2012, 12:25 p.m. CST


    by ForgetTheMoney

    Except for texas chainsaw (which was ok), Platinum Dunes makes glossy, stiff, unoriginal films that are as scary as an episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Nightmare on Elm street was one of the biggest turds I'd ever seen. I thought Zombie's H2 was brilliant, a true gory slasher that made you feel grimy after watching. To revert back to Dunes formulaic templates for Halloween would be a disaster for Dimension and Halloween fans

  • April 3, 2012, 12:27 p.m. CST

    The old "only Shakespeare deserves to be done right" argument.

    by Nerd Rage

    Fuck off with that shit. How many classic genre films from the 80's do you need to watch from the 80's to realize that's a complete dogshit defense for Bay's half-assed approach.

  • April 3, 2012, 12:28 p.m. CST

    Halloween II (1981)

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Bought this on bluray last....Halloween. Not a bad follow-up. Sure it gets more slashery than the first and takes some unbelievable twists, but like Jaws 2 they got most of the original cast back and made a preaty good movie with some above average set pieces.

  • April 3, 2012, 12:31 p.m. CST


    by chad kuhns

    I mean come on, can they really fuck it up any worse than Rob Zombie did? I kinda hope they do, just to stay consistent with the garbage they put out. Real Halloween fans known that it begins and ends with John Carpenter.

  • April 3, 2012, 12:33 p.m. CST

    I guess maybe the outrage comes from

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Less and less movies are being made, and they're movies/ideas that have already been done almost exactly the same. If there was more original material being put out I don't think we'd hear the same amount of negativity. We have a whole year of films that mainly consist of sequels and remakes. At the end of the day though I don't really care if there is real talent involved. I mean we've seen it before, if you get talented people involved with these things that actually care or have a real passionate idea of what to do with this already used concept, you may get something even better than the original. The problem is that there just isn't the talent level in the industry now or there may be but they are vetoed at every turn when they try to do something good and outside the box that we get the shit we get.

  • April 3, 2012, 12:33 p.m. CST

    Can't do worse than Rob Zombie's hamfisted attempts.

    by Mr Nicholas

  • April 3, 2012, 12:35 p.m. CST



    To 'Hallo' Because the 'ween' at the end just makes it confusing for non-genre audiences. And Michael Myers is gonna piss on someone's leg, and then they'll blow up. And Martin Lawrence will play Michael Myers.

  • April 3, 2012, 12:45 p.m. CST

    Hire me, hell, hire all of us from this site

    by alienindisguise

    because we could do no worse than whatever bullshit hackneyed team you put together

  • April 3, 2012, 12:47 p.m. CST


    by Shaun1138

    Hollywood is so fucking tapped out.

  • April 3, 2012, 12:48 p.m. CST

    i dont go to the movies anymore

    by Pikoz Schultz

    Problem solved

  • I do agree that it was a bit more slasher-y, but it really was a direct continuation of the first movie. Tonally, the insanity that made up the 3rd chapter of the original 1978 movie is what filled the better part of the 1981 movie. Creatively, like how the Back to the Future trilogy basically make up one 6hr time travel epic, Halloween I & II just feel like one long 3hr horror movie split into two parts. To me, they really should've ended Halloween after those first two. The series just degraded into mindless nonsense after that. The first two made up one really good, if occasionally uneven, slasher epic. (Much in the same way Nightmare on Elm Street 1, 3, & 4 form their own perfect horror story thread.)

  • Somebody with a ton of money, pull, or both who liked those movies a lot when they were younger, but then drifted away from horror movies. They might want to see them again maybe for nostalgia's sake, but don't really give enough of a damn to follow through and see them done right. It's the only thing that makes sense.

  • I look forward to ANYBODY other than Zombie handling the franchise at this point. To be perfectly honest, I'd even be interested in seeing what Wes Craven could do with that property. His Nightmare flick was almost a criticism of the personality-free mindlessness of Carpenter's killer.

  • Platinum Dunes Producer 1: *Yo, bro, you know what movie, like ROCKED when I was a kid?* Platinum Dunes Producer 2: *Goonies? Gremlins?* Platinum Dunes Producer 1: *Nah, bro. Those were cool, don't get me wrong. But I was a HUGE fan of Big Trouble in Little China. I totally think we should fuckin' remake it.* Platinum Dunes Producer 2: *Yeah, man, we can call it Little China or some shit, and get Colin Farrell to play Kurt Russell.* Platinum Dunes Producer 1: *Yeah, and instead of setting in Chinatown, we could set it in Little Tokyo or some shit. Audiences will NEVER see it coming.* Platinum Dunes Producer 2: *MIND. BLOWN.*

  • New properties are a risk. Proven ones are a license to print money. Especially in a middling economy, nobody wants to risk millions of dollars on something that could lose them money. That's especially true about R-rated fare, and also one of the reasons why so many R-rated movies get chopped down to PG-13. Bay may not be on AICN readers' Christmas card list, but he certainly has had a few credible flicks in the past. Some crap to be sure, but some enjoyable ones too.

  • April 3, 2012, 1:12 p.m. CST


    by warren bishop

    no - that wouldn't be unfair at all. I wouldn't limit it to Michael Bay either...

  • April 3, 2012, 1:17 p.m. CST

    My main problem with Rob Zombie's Halloween...

    by Mrhazard

    He spent (what) 40 mins or so telling the story of Michael Myers' abusive childhood in the trailer park making Michael a victim and giving him a motive to kill. He shouldn't be a victim. I shouldn't feel sympathy for him. A murderer with no motive is scarier than a murderer with one. That was why the original was so good. You didnt know why he was killing these people. With that being said, the childhood segment of the remake is probably the most memorable thing about it lol. The rest of the movie is even worse and more pointless.

  • April 3, 2012, 1:24 p.m. CST

    There are 4 excellent Halloween films...

    by sai_justin

    The first two originals, and the two Rob Zombie remakes. Everything else was recycled crap, and seriously? Stop it, Bay. Please go swallow a knife, I hate you.

  • April 3, 2012, 1:26 p.m. CST

    Actually, i rather Bay or Someone reboot the....

    by Maegnarval

    "Trick Or Treat" (1986) movie into a series of films. Even bring back Gene Simmons & Ozzy Osbourne in expanded roles! Still A Halloween in Imax 3D would be cool, too!

  • April 3, 2012, 1:26 p.m. CST

    Can't be any worse than Rob Zombie's ham-fisted remake.

    by HelveticaConspiracy

    And, let's just all try to forget his sequel.

  • April 3, 2012, 1:33 p.m. CST

    Why not?

    by Mantula

    The Halloween series is already messed up. Parts 7 (h20) and 8 (Resurrection) ignored parts 4, 5 and 6. Part 3 had nothing to do with the rest of the series. Rob Zombie's Halloween was ok, but completely changed what originally made Michael Myers scary... and Zombie's sequal was awful! Why not reboot the the thing yet again. This would be the third or fourth reboot for this series anyway (H20 was a sequal/reboot, Zombie's was obviously a remake/reboot, and it can be argured that part 4 was a reboot after 3.) --- In any case, I liked the Texas Chainsaw Massacre (I know, that's taboo to say). I thought Friday the 13th wasn't bad. (It was better than Jason Goes to Hell and Jason X, but I wish it had better kills). Nightmare on Elm Street I hated when it was in the theaters, but after seeing it a couple of times on HBO, I've grown to appreciate it more. (Once I got over the new Freddy, there are some cool scenes in it.). So, I welcome another Halloween and one made by Platinum Dunes.

  • April 3, 2012, 1:35 p.m. CST

    cameron should do halloween.

    by alice133

    marines vs mike meyers. under water.

  • Zombie also missed the point by failing to recognize that true horror has nothing to do with blood and viscera. The original movie is still haunting because the violence there is so unflinching. The scene where Michael strangles Annie in the car isn't a short one. He doesn't just snap her neck and run off. No. He lingers there as she gurgles and gasps for breath. It's a ghoulish death, yet it never once goes to cartoon extremes. Same thing when he kills Lynda. In part, that's where Carpenter dropped the ball a bit in Halloween II (1981). That scene with the hot tub was over the top. Kinda cool, but it was an unnecessary upping of the ante. And that's exactly what Rob Zombie's movies were. They had to be bigger for no particular reason other than appealing to torture porn obsessed modern horror fans. He missed the points that A) Sometimes, what you don't see is much more powerful than what you do and B) a good horror movie is one that also succeeds in making the viewer scared and uncomfortable. I'm not sure if his remakes did that. Bigger? Yes. Better? Uhhhhh...... No.

  • April 3, 2012, 1:41 p.m. CST

    RE: murderer with no motive is scarier than a murderer with one.

    by cookepuss

    For Michael Meyers, that's true. For Freddy Kreuger, it's probably the opposite. He was out for revenge. What made that scary was that: 1) He was exacting it on their children and 2) It happened in their sleep, an activity they couldn't avoid. I think that Freddy having no motive would've made it less compelling. Here were these parents who fucked up and killed an accused child killer - or pedo depending on how you want to interpret Craven's 80s-limited depiction. Instead of doing justice by their kids, they doomed them. It made it that much scarier knowing that these kids were themselves living with murderers and were paying the price because of it.

  • April 3, 2012, 1:41 p.m. CST

    rsanta74-I agree

    by Samuel Fulmer

    And also with ending at pt. II. III can be sort of admired for it's Dean Cundy cinematography and batshit crazy direction it took the series, and I liked parts of H20, but mostly because it brought back Mrs. Activia.

  • In the original 2 movies, he actually bled. He wasn't invulnerable. He was just so psychotic and adrenaline fueled that he didn't always feel his own pain, kinda like he was on a meth fueled rage.

  • Halloween could've been almost like an anthology franchise, where each new movie represented a new Halloween themed horror. Could've been very Creepshow-like. MM just proved to be so popular that III was immediately rejected. It wasn't a bad movie. It just wasn't what fans wanted or expected. Had it been named something else....

  • April 3, 2012, 1:49 p.m. CST

    who cares, the franchise has been shit for decades

    by oolz

    They can only improve it at this point. It's not like this franchise deserves all the "sacred text" treatment anyway. FUCK IT.

  • April 3, 2012, 2:01 p.m. CST

    Terror Train is supposed to be out later this year on blu ray

    by Samuel Fulmer

  • 1. HAS the franchise been in the crapper for years? Definitely. No doubt about it. Doesn't mean it has to be that way for future installments though. You don't have to accept crap because crap is what you expect. 2. It's not that the original flicks are "sacred" at all. It's that Carpenter really hit on something genuine. He really figured out what unsettles and unnerves people. You can up the ante for violence in the sequels, but you shouldn't forget the true meaning and intentions of the horror genre. It's not enough that your killer decimates his victims. The audience must also be afraid. Guys like Zombie use cheap camera and music cues to create fake terror in the moviegoers. It's not genuine. I remember watching the first Final Destination in the theaters years ago. Not only was the movie cool, but it actually made me a bit creeped out and paranoid once I left the theater. Try driving home at 2am after having seen a movie about (invisible) Death coming after you with these elaborate deathtraps. =) The other way in which the remakes of Halloween and Nightmare missed the mark were that the victims were disposable. They didn't feel like people. In the original Nightware, you cared if Glen or Nancy got it. You cared for Laurie's safety in Halloween `78. These characters were fleshed out and charismatic. In the remakes, you couldn't give a rat's ass. They were just meat for the beast. I also feel that the remakes missed the point by taking some of the power away from the female leads. In the originals, Laurie and Nancy were scared, but they weren't victims. They were fighters, clever ones even. Some of that soul and girl power was lost when the flicks got remade. It's not about following "sacred text". These originals weren't perfect, but they DID do something magical. They made you care. They made you feel for the characters. They made you feel afraid and unsettled for yourself. If you want to know where the remakes missed the point... ^^^ THERE. THAT. ^^^

  • April 3, 2012, 2:14 p.m. CST

    Oy! AICN needs an edit function. "Nightware" lol

    by cookepuss

  • April 3, 2012, 2:15 p.m. CST

    According to Hollywood humanity has run out of ideas --

    by MooseMalloy

    -- might as well throw in the towel.

  • April 3, 2012, 2:24 p.m. CST

    Halloween with EXPLOSIONS

    by F-18

    starring Activia Lee Curtis

  • April 3, 2012, 2:45 p.m. CST

    Zombie utterly ruined Myers ... Bay CANNOT do any worse ... Fact.


  • April 3, 2012, 3:06 p.m. CST

    What is this crap? Why do they keep fucking with Halloween?

    by ZodNotGod

    A masterpiece original. Get something new.

  • April 3, 2012, 3:10 p.m. CST

    Seriously, leave MM alone....

    by ZodNotGod

    Go back to Carp's original idea from Halloween III; a story based around Halloween.... 'Nuff said, you still have the Halloween name and won't have to remake or repeat themselves.

  • April 3, 2012, 3:10 p.m. CST

    Zombie's Halloween did the most...

    by Bruno

    The remake was terrible only because it had way too much going on. He made a trashy version of Michael Myers and when watching the movie, you can see he got so caught up in the backstory that he forgot he was making a remake. And then he crammed a testosterone fueled ADD remake of the original movie in the last 30 minutes of his remake. No character development. You don't care about Laurie because the girl they chose was awful. And the way the girls spoke was as if he lifted a conversation from a retarded group of girls' myspace comments section. Any remake by Bay would be an improvement. BUT, they need to go back to basics and remember why their best remake was the TCM remake. The TCM remake was a slick, action packed slasher film that was more like a sequel than a remake. Had the Friday the 13th movie focused more on violence instead of tits, it would have been as good. And Nightmare was just fucking boring. I was wishing I fell asleep in the theater and saw Freddy for real to end my boredom.

  • April 3, 2012, 3:11 p.m. CST

    Anything would be better than Rob Zombie's

    by Pwesents

    Seriously they could film Mike Myers taking a dump while reading a magazine for two hours and it would be light years better than Rob Zombie's putrid versions

  • April 3, 2012, 3:13 p.m. CST

    Michael Myers is a TRANSFORMER??!!!!

    by IronEagle74

    Played by Ben Affleck, co-starring Shia LeBeouf?

  • April 3, 2012, 3:38 p.m. CST

    for the record, i'm on board for Big Trouble in Lil Tokyp

    by JackSlater4

  • That's why remakes fail. There's no guessing, no anticipation, no suspense. It's all laid out there for the viewer to lap up like a dog. Part of the fun in watching the original films was that they stimulated our minds to think, conjecture, come up with our own backstories for the characters we love dearly. Take note Hollywood, we don't need your hack writers and directors "explaining" to us why someone is the way he is. Let my own mind figure that part out.

  • April 3, 2012, 3:44 p.m. CST

    michael wasn't invulnerable in the first two?

    by Bouncy X

    ummm, he's stabbed in the eye with a coat hanger which doesnt phase him much after a minute and then shot 6 times and survives ...that's just the first movie, then in the sequel he's shot twice IN EACH EYE and still keeps coming. but anyway the question is, will this be another reboot or remake or the planned Part 3 to the Zombie movies?

  • That's when Mikey "Cocaine" Bay flew through the window, guns blazing, firey 'splosions of horrifying stereotypes, toilet humor, racism, and homophobia bursting from every orifice, screaming, "YOU RANG?!?!?!?!"

  • April 3, 2012, 3:50 p.m. CST

    Has anyone made the Shia Lebeouf as Michael Myers joke yet?

    by ravenink

    Because if not, there it is.

  • April 3, 2012, 3:50 p.m. CST

    I've enjoyed all the Platinum Dune remakes.

    by themastadon

    Not saying they're better than the originals, but I really enjoyed the twists and things they added. Like the underground tunnels in Friday the 13th, or really playing up that Freddy was a child molester, that brought even more horror into that film seeing the pictures on the wall that the kids drew in his lair. I'm interested to see what they come up with for Halloween, anything will be better than Zombies Halloween 2.

  • April 3, 2012, 3:56 p.m. CST

    To answer your question, ravenink:

    by Robert Evans


  • April 3, 2012, 3:58 p.m. CST


    by ravenink

    Lebeouf as Laurie?

  • April 3, 2012, 4:03 p.m. CST

    @neonfrisbee and @cousinlarryappleton, nicely done.

    by kevred

    Very different approaches, but you both nailed it very well. :)

  • April 3, 2012, 4:12 p.m. CST

    Why not?

    by Blu Gilliand

    The originals are still out there, and untouchable, so why not give us another interpretation? No, I have no faith in Bay to give us anything remotely resembling an actual horror movie. If anything, it will just demonstrate the genius of the original all the more. I enjoy Zombie's versions. The first had its moments of suspense (not enough, but...) and definitely filled the brutality quota. H2 was just insane, a weird fever-dream of a movie that, like most nightmares, made little sense when it was over.

  • April 3, 2012, 4:21 p.m. CST

    Honestly, what's the point of even complaining any more?

    by Jon Forbing

    Michael Bay's just gonna keep on doing this shit, and as long as the stupidest majority of Americans keep on seeing his garbage, he has no reason to stop. Let's just all happily pretend his movies don't exist. It's the only way to preserve our sanity.

  • April 3, 2012, 4:37 p.m. CST

    Agree with thoughts above - REMAKE HALLOWEEN III!!!

    by annie_michael_hall

    Halloween masks are creepy to begin with but thanks to the general preferences in Halloween costumes - that kids want to be their heroes now (Disney princesses and Pixar and Harry Potter etc...) - no kids really wear "scary masks" anymore. Or maybe it would be interesting if they went period, maybe late 70s, early 80s... get Ti West to write and direct - and tie it in to the Myers mythos at the end. Ok maybe I'm reaching.

  • April 3, 2012, 4:40 p.m. CST

    Michael Bay is the formica table top

    by gaygoonie

    David Lynch reference about the banality of evil.

  • April 3, 2012, 4:41 p.m. CST

    Trick or treater sandwhiched between cars and the glass door!

    by Darth Macchio

    Halloween II was indeed great..more like the continuation of the story...nothing like the first one of course...but a damn good movie on its own. Lance Guest (Last Starfighter) as a would-be bf for Laurie plus that super hot short-haired blonde nurse. And of course Donald Pleasance and The Shapes actual final confrontation (post part 2 sequels, schmeeqles). Like part 2 or not, that was the same "Shape" from the first movement, form, purpose, maybe a little more unstoppable (the walking through the glass door scene made me freak out as a kid - an iconic image for me!)...whereas the "Shape" from the later films just got dumbass weird (and Paul Rudd in trenchcoat and boots with spurs or something? wtf?)

  • April 3, 2012, 4:45 p.m. CST

    Nightmare on Elm Street remake was god awful. GOD AWFUL.

    by D.Vader

    Talk about your nonsensical character behavior, weak dream imagery and limp-dicked kills. And no sex or nudity (granted there was none in the original but aren't we trying to be different and in some ways better when we do a remake?) to spice things up. Terrible movie. What a waste.

  • April 3, 2012, 4:47 p.m. CST


    by Roane Gaddy

    Doesn't anyone in Hollywood produce anything original anymore? Hell, even Woody Allen has started recycling his own movies.

  • April 3, 2012, 5:08 p.m. CST

    I watched Zombie's Halloween while drunk.

    by D.Vader

    And from what I remember, I really liked the first half. I think most people shit on the backstory given to Myers, but I for one found it refreshing bc it was something creatively new and different. It wasn't just a rehash playing out onscreen. It's once Myers gets to Haddonfield that I lost interest, bc by then it's just about beat for beat the same as the original with a few tweaks here and there, and I just wasn't that into it anymore. Except for the nudity. Great nudity. Thank you full frontal chick in the Director's cut and a special thank you to you, Danielle Harris.

  • April 3, 2012, 5:53 p.m. CST

    The two best Halloweens are 1 and 3. Yeah, really.

    by Big Bad Clone

    Can you name anything memorable from any of the other sequels or remakes? Maybe the exploding hospital from 2? But, c'mon, how does that compare to Michael with a coat hanger in his eye or a kid's head melting into fucking bugs?

  • April 3, 2012, 6:13 p.m. CST

    nelson style "HA HA"

    by andy kaufman

    all you geeks bitched about zombies take on HALLOWEEN. at least it was a vision and had the backing of the orginal producers. now this will be bay-fied.

  • April 3, 2012, 6:36 p.m. CST

    He'll retitle it 'Ween I suppose

    by mdk

  • April 3, 2012, 6:41 p.m. CST

    Zombie's Halloween 2....

    by ZodNotGod

    is the single worst movie of it's decade. My God, the dialog was so cliched and nasty. Who talks like that????? Apparently Robby does. Why did Micheal need to come from a trashy family? Just sick and dumb.

  • April 3, 2012, 6:44 p.m. CST

    All of the Plat Dune remakes have been beyond shitty.

    by ZodNotGod

    Forgettable as soon as they are over. Not a good sign.

  • April 3, 2012, 6:46 p.m. CST

    Of course! That's it!

    by hellsheartstab

    I have watched Halloween every Christmas night since I was 10, and god for the last 25 years I kept thinking what would make this better? Leave it to Bay, a car chase!!

  • April 3, 2012, 6:49 p.m. CST



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  • April 3, 2012, 7:13 p.m. CST


    by DanielnocharismaCraig

    Blame Lucas for this fiasco. Him and Spielberg helped spawn this unholy beast known as Michael Bay.

  • April 3, 2012, 7:13 p.m. CST

    @red ned lynch and @sauronthepowerful

    by adeceasedfan

    Greater truth has never been spoken. Halloween happens to be my all time favorite.

  • April 3, 2012, 7:44 p.m. CST

    BTW, what happened to the Jason vs. Freddy sequel?

    by DanielnocharismaCraig

    I thought that was a pretty good movie for what it was.

  • Some of the sequels were mildly entertaining in that they didn't completely suck, but the franchise died with the God-awful sequel with Busta Rhymes and the reality TV twist to it. Rob Zombie had a shot to resurrect the franchise, but his movies were horrible mistakes. In fact, he would have made a far better movie if he just created his own mythology with a new killer because the Mike Myers canon in the second half of the first Zombie movie was clearly the worst part of the movie. The second Zombie movie was just complete and utter mess and it looked like the rush job money grab it was.

  • April 3, 2012, 9:09 p.m. CST

    Halloween was a GREAT horror film.

    by Jason

    Pretty egotistical of Rob Zombie and now Michael Bay to think they could do better. Creativity is officially gone with this one. A remake 2 years after the first remake?

  • 1) At the time FvJ was made in 2003, Robert Englund was 56 years old. Not that the makeup doesn't hide his age, but Englund was likely becoming less able to do the more physical stuff. Because of that, I think Englund sort of breathed a sigh of relief when Jackie Earle Haley took over the role. Now, at nearly 65, it's more likely that Englund would only reprise the role for something on a much smaller scale, but not a full movie. 2) FvJ cost $30M to make and earned about $115M. That boosted both Freddy AND Jason's profile, making their franchises more desirable by viewers and studios alike. Hoddder and Kirzinger were, at the time, both approaching their 50s. Englund was headed toward his 60s. It was probably decided, to keep the gravy train going for the greatest number of sequels, to reboot the franchises with newer, younger performers; although just about any slow moving big guy could play Jason, even an elderly Hodder. 3) Where do you go from FvJ? There was a definitive winner, even if you really couldn't kill the already dead Kreuger. Where to next? A rematch? There was talk of adding Michael Meyers or Ash to the mix, but the logistics of adding them to the story and legal wrangling to get the properties together would've been horrendous. It was a small miracle that FvJ got produced and that a reasonably coherent story came together. 4) FvJ largely played well to audiences because of nostalgia. Excluding the 2001's Jason X, which some fans to consider non-canonical, both franchise were pretty much dead. Neither Freddy nor Jason had seen a proper entry into their franchises for nearly 10 years. Fans flocked to FvJ because of that. Would lightning strike twice for a FvJ with that nostalgia factor gone? Hard to tell. 5) PG-13, the bitch goddess of the box office, was becoming the preferred rating for studios and the death knell for R-rated fare. Getting a R-rated movie out there is tough these days. The money is in PG-13. Getting a profitable R-rated movie is hard. The R might as well be NC17 or X to some studios. From the perspective of the money guys, R might as well be a skull & crossbones poison symbol. Look at the Expendables. Look at the ratings flip-flop from R to PG-13 and back to R again.

  • April 3, 2012, 10:07 p.m. CST

    Teenage Alien Invader Ninja Turtles

    by Clavius

    T.A.I.N.T - As in, t'aint gonna see that or any other Bay movie

  • April 3, 2012, 10:38 p.m. CST

    Just pretend Halloween III has a different name..

    by darthwaz1

    ..and it's a really eerie fun movie.

  • April 3, 2012, 11:02 p.m. CST

    New Michael Myers to wear Chris Pine mask

    by Chief Joseph

    And he will be played by Mike Meyers.

  • ...because they wanted someone closer in physical size to Englund. For a fantasy horror-magic fight. Who the hell knows why. Some moron was thinking in boxing-match terms, maybe?

  • April 4, 2012, 12:45 a.m. CST

    Doesn't make sense, pink_apocalypse.

    by cookepuss

    Ignore for a moment that that IMDB mistakenly lists Hodder at nearly 5'11". Hodder and Kirzinger are almost the same height, 6'4" and 6'5" respectively. Swapping Hodder out as an issue of size makes no sense. Now, if we're to believe IMDB's figure of nearly 5'11", that'd put Hodder at only a 2" advantage over Englund's 5'9". Even if you believe Wiki's 6'2" estimate, it's impossible for height to be the reason for the swap either way. Going by the ever *cough* dependable Wiki here... Hodder claims he was never given a reason for the swap. The same entry claims that director Ronny Yu "wanted a slower, more deliberate Jason, and less of the aggressive movements that Hodder had used in the previous films." Could also be that Hodder simple looked more physically massive when compared to Englund. Hodder is quoted as having said, "I guess they wanted Jason to look like a skinny little bitch this time." If you look at Hodder in Jason X and compare him to Hirzinger in FvJ you can see that this might actually be an issue. The wider, more imposing Hodder looks as if he could've dismantled Englund a lot easier.

  • Chill.

  • April 4, 2012, 3:12 a.m. CST

    Life must be a bastard being John Carpenter

    by david starling

    I mean, being told repeatedly that he hasn't got "it" anymore (although the output he gave to audiences, and the reverence of many of them, I think he's paid his dues for a few 'off' movies!!). In one interview I once read he had a regret about directing Halloween, as he was blamed by many for all the copycat slasher horrors that followed (and many of these people completely missed the original Black Christmas - so much for 'knowing your onions'!!). And its not enough that one of his classic creations has been ravaged enough by Rob Zombie, its going to be kicked a few times more!! John, you're one of my favourite directors (and yes, I can forgive you for Ghosts of Mars!!), my goodness you've received some crap over the years. You have my thanks, and my sympathies.

  • April 4, 2012, 3:34 a.m. CST

    Damn you, Michael Bay!

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    Where's that tb? I miss him.

  • April 4, 2012, 3:44 a.m. CST

    I'll tell you why the Zombie versions are truly brilliant

    by Cameron1

    Ok first off, they aren't a patch on the Carpenter original but they are still excellent horror films because they come from a world why Myers is the real hero (not even anti-hero). His bloody carnage is awesome and glorious. Not that's true horror - being put into a experience where what we consider evil is perceived as beautiful.

  • April 4, 2012, 3:45 a.m. CST

    Gah - edit "Now that's true horror..."

    by Cameron1

  • April 4, 2012, 4:03 a.m. CST

    FVJ was awesome...

    by Andrew Coleman

    Was like the last movie that didn't take itself too seriously. I frankly blame Batman Begins for all of this and TDK. When Nolan pulled off a "dark" batman. Studio's responded horribly by thinking the only thing people wanted was "dark". Problem is they never got it right. You can't have dark in this "Everything needs to be pg-13" era. Even when movies are rated R they never use it to the full potential. The only one "remake" I've enjoyed was Friday the 13th, because it didn't take itself too seriously and was essentially a sequel and not a remake. They had fun with it. I had fun with it. Also rebooting remakes only two years or so after a remake is released is a bad trend. Are they going to make "Spectacular Spider-man" after The Amazing Spider-man bombs for being stupid as shit and fucking up the Lizard? I just wish studio's would just offer up some cash, I'm talking $15 million or less and try and get some new horror concepts out there. Just remaking the classics over and over is getting really old.

  • April 4, 2012, 5:27 a.m. CST

    Who is this "Kidd" person?

    by James Stevenson

    Perhaps I've been away too long. Beaks I recognize, trust, and respect. He's old school. Quint's like the retarded little brother whose perpetual disadvantage one has learned to tolerate, albeit over many years. Massawyrm's MIA, Harry's nearly the same. Vern and Alexandra DuPont, and Joe Hallenbeck have all, like Elvis, left the building, with those of us who knew better wanting more. Sorry, Kidd. You gotta earn them stripes, son.

  • April 4, 2012, 6:48 a.m. CST

    You know, i really enjoyed Amittyville remake.

    by Burnam

    It was interesting to see snarky Renolds to play a bit of drama. Esp a scruffy asshole in a horror flick. The Kreuger remake upset me because of (bad cgi not withstanding) if Fred was so in love with those kids, he wouldn't have hurt them. The claw makes nearly zero sense in that representation. He shouldn't have been protrayed as some kind of bad habitted simpleton like he was. I feel like that's all wrong. Myers and Vorhees are fairly difficult to fuck up imo. Silent stalker killer types are pretty cut and dry. I'll be ready to burn the studio down when they formally announce the Polergeist remake in 13 months. Grrr....

  • April 4, 2012, 6:50 a.m. CST

    Bet John Carpenters is ROTFL !

    by Candy ass monkey suit

    no wonder carpenter never directs films these days,all the bank he gets from these crappy remakes and sequels has him laughing all the way to his nearest ATM machine! PLEASE LET THIS SERIES DIE!!! THERE IS NO MORE MILK TO..ER MILK FROM THIS PROPERTY

  • April 4, 2012, 8:13 a.m. CST

    One request for the new movie... Make Michael indestructible

    by buggerbugger

    That's the whole **point** of the character. He's the original, modern-day unstoppable slasher bogeyman. He bleeds, but he can't be stopped. He isn't human. He's the slasher that most generic slasher killers want to be when they grow up. Michael doesn't disappear at the end of 'Halloween' because there's money to be made in a sequel. He disappears at the end of 'Halloween' because he's the bogeyman. For those of us who saw 'Halloween' before a sequel was a glint in Akkad's eye, we didn't leave the movie thinking "Oh wow, a sequel must be on the way!"; that really wasn't the mindset at the time. No, we left the movie thinking "Oh shit, Loomis was right, he **is** the bogeyman." The ending of that movie has bugger all to do with leaving things open for a potential cash-in sequel and everything to do with the point that the whole movie has been building toward: On the most supernatural night of the year, the bogeyman is - somehow - real. Lock your fucking doors. Trying to explain Myers in human serial-murder terms is one of the dumbest things Zombie decided upon in a movie filled to the brim with the purest dumb. A Platinum Dunes 'Halloween' movie has the 99.9 per cent potential to be soulless, by-the-numbers slasher fare like the majority of their remakes. But that would still be a vast improvement over Zombie's cinematic arse-pellets.

  • April 4, 2012, 10:08 a.m. CST

    The mastery of the original Halloween is almost unquantifiable...

    by Jaster Mareel

    But goddamn, scratchmonkey did a great job in pointing out one very indeilible part of it. But I will add to that and say the indestructability is only a crucial element in the first film for the reason scratch mentions. And it became a laughable cliche afterwards.

  • April 4, 2012, 10:21 a.m. CST

    I don't know if people can allow themselves back into that mindset

    by Jaster Mareel

    Because it had never been done before. Shit a SLASHER film had never really been done before, at least not in America. And fuck Black Christmas by the way, that's a shitty film (both fo them). I think it was the original Black Christmas who's opening credit music is almost note for note Carpenter's famous score. Still a crap film though. The Italians had certainly been onto that shit for awhile and Dario Argento, particularly with his Goblin scores, had been leading the pack. My point is that in the late 70's and early 80's, this shit was all new and there was a sense of "anything can hapen". So supernatural boogeyman who can't be killed? Ok, cool. But it turned into a joke and I don't think we as an audience can get back to that state of innocence anymore. t would take a very talented filmmaker to make that concept scary again. The way I see it, there are two roads to take to make it happen. You can explain the fuck out of it like Jason Goes to Hell did, or just don't explain it at all but film it so fucking well that the not knowing actually makes it scarier. Overwhelm the audience with the sense that =Oh my God, this is really happening= that they stop trying to rationalize it altogether and put themselves in the place of the protagonist and just want to get them away from the monster. To me, it's gotta be the latter, but that goes beyond the script and you need a visceral director that understands how to stage and edit things to make the audience uncomfortable. Platinum Dunes' go-to guy is Marcus Nispel and he has done a fine job with Leatherface and Jason....but he's done so much utter shit that I wouldn't keep betting on that horse.

  • Dead Alive is up there with Robocop and the original cannot be topped. So try and make it scary as fuck but with same insane gore. Grow some balls Bay.

  • April 4, 2012, 10:32 a.m. CST

    Isn't it about time to reboot the Paranormal Activity series?

    by Joe Plumber

  • Um, remakes are not brand new stories.

  • April 4, 2012, 10:40 a.m. CST

    A Phantasm remake in 3D would be awesome

    by Joe Plumber

    This is a no-brainer. Why don't I work in Hollywood?

  • I guess Jigsaw if you're desperate for an answer.

  • April 4, 2012, 10:50 a.m. CST

    Will they eventually reboot Shocker?

    by v3d

    If anything would work better today is Shocker. Everyone is walking around with a smart phone or tablet today, giving the bad guy even more opportunities to attack.

  • April 4, 2012, 10:52 a.m. CST

    Dead Alive but without humor?

    by Jaster Mareel

    Part of me says that would just completely miss the point. Another part of me thinks that could be bad-fuckin'-ass!

  • April 4, 2012, 11:10 a.m. CST

    darth_me: YES.

    by ZodNotGod

    Candyman...that flicks still creeps me out.

  • Will watch anything and it shows.... I hate the Amityville remake because it too was lies. The real story of that house is the best one. Amityville 2 touched on it, but told more lies. I want a solid, accurate movie telling the real story. That ghost crap was made up by a greedy laywer drunk on cheap wine.

  • NOT brand new stories nor are they any good.

  • April 4, 2012, 11:18 a.m. CST

    v3d, you bring up a good point

    by Joe Plumber

    Not in regards to Shocker, but I always thought that Electro would've made a great villain in a Spiderman movie.

  • April 4, 2012, 11:29 a.m. CST

    Zombie's Halloween was awful.

    by Playkins

    MM has motivation? Other that being a soulless monster that wants to end his entire bloodline? "no one loves me" isn't compelling motivation. it's just pathetic.

  • April 4, 2012, 11:39 a.m. CST

    Read the Halloween comics

    by BobbyBrown

    they were better than Zombie's films and the sequels. Zomibes movies were too cruel. Don't be cruel is how I see it. They should be the next movies.

  • Perhaps they could ride white horses through a field.

  • April 4, 2012, 12:23 p.m. CST

    Michael Bay Bashing

    by Reignofjerm

    Must be Wednesday....

  • April 4, 2012, 12:33 p.m. CST

    Bay represents everything that is wrong with Hollywood

    by Joe Plumber

    And nothing that is good about film.

  • 1. Him wearing the Shatner mask while screaming profanities?!? 2.Jamie lee gets offed officially. 3.Worst of all Busta karate kicks Myers' ass. Who fucking wrote that part in? Busta or his ego? I'm no fan of Rob's Shalloween, but his films runs circles around that shitfest.

  • April 4, 2012, 1:20 p.m. CST

    "Halloween 3" was to be the beginning of a new concept.

    by MisterManReturns

    Each new film would have a self-contained story with different characters. People apparently didn't care for the change, and they jumped back into the crappy sequels. I saw 3 during its original release, and enjoyed it. It would have been interesting to see what other unique "Halloween" films could have been created.

  • It's as if he were doing heavy drugs when he filmed that section. It's so, SOOOO fucking bad. The dialogue, the acting, the directing, all of it is complete fucking garbage, right up until Michael is running like a girl in slow motion from the school. Then it gets really fucking good. All the stuff in the asylum as a kid is fucking GOLD. And all you fuckers know it too. Then Zombie does the totally fucked up rape scene, which doesn't even make any sense. It is POSSIBLE that Zombie was trying to connect Michael's need to kill with sex. That's actually a really good idea, but it's not executed well and it comes off as exploitative and stomach-churning. Yes the rest of the film gets formulaic, but that's kinda unavoidable. And I loved Halloween II more than Zombie's first effort so I don't even know why people bitch about that movie. It's puzzling because they just say it sucked, but offer no examples or reasoning why. I will say that shoe-horning in his wife again was not the best use of screen time and a bit derivative of Psycho or Jason Voorhees of all things, but it certainly doesn't ruin the fucking movie!

  • April 4, 2012, 1:25 p.m. CST

    And yes, Halloween:Resurrection is a blight on mankind

    by Jaster Mareel

    It is seriously one of the worst fucking movies ever recorded. There's no explanation for why anything in that movie happens. and it's all done so cheaply and shittily. And yes, Busta Rhymes, whom nobody even fucking remembered a couple of years after the film, ordering Michael around, then beating the shit out of him, calling him a MOTHER FUCKER TO HIS FACE....and LIVING? UN....MOTHER......FUCKING....FORGIVABLE! As I exited that movie I threw my popcorn bucket in the garbage so hard it showered the teenaged theater employee kid with popcorn. I felt a little bad about it, but I was FUCKING PISSED!

  • April 4, 2012, 1:50 p.m. CST

    Platnum Dunes.............

    by DJGPROD

    Too much flash, not enough substance. Horror is about building dread. NOT GORE, NOT EFFECTS. M. BEY should hire a fresh new filmmaking talent with an ORIGINAL vision, and start a brand new franchise. I know were supposed to live green, but this movie recycling has got to stop!!!!!

  • April 4, 2012, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Rob Zombie and Platnium Dunes

    by Bramton1

    Rob Zombie doesn't get Halloween. Myers wasn't repeated as Michael Myers as a character name. He was "The Shape." It suggested a sub-human creature that kills and kills for seemingly no reason. What made the viscous murder of his sister so terrifying is that it came out of nowhere. Think of any kids in your neighborhood and imagine them sporadically hacking a family member to death. You probably can't little Johnny next door doing that. Well, that would probably have been what the neighbors would have said about little Michael.<p>By comparison, Zombie's Myers was a fucked up kid with an equally fucked up family. Ask his old neighbors about the events of the two Zombie movies and you'd probably get an answer like, "In retrospect, it wasn't all that of a surprise. Michael definitely had some problems growing up, one of which was his completely dysfunctional family. It's a shame he didn't have the chance to grow up in a more stable household. These events might have never happened."<p>For the record, I stopped watching Zombie's Halloween halfway through (probably after the 20th F-bomb Laurie Strode let out) and have no interest in watching Zombie's Halloween 2.<p>As for Platnium Dunes... I liked Chainsaw and especially liked Amityville, although like someone else said, they tried to turn the ending into The Shining. Elm Street was decent and I owe it on Blu-Ray, but it's nothing special. Rooney Mara was forgetable as Nancy, and I just hate Freddy's makeup. However, I don't think any of the PD movies are utter crap; they're much nothing special. Nobody is going to be talking about those remakes in 20 years. But if it's half-decent, go for it. Wash the Rob Zombie crap off of Halloween.

  • April 4, 2012, 5:22 p.m. CST

    fuck michael bay

    by JaredP

    it isn't enough that he ruined friday the 13th and nightmare on elm street, now hes going after halloween? fucking douchebag prick. is the terminator next. STOP RAPING MY CHILDHOOD, YOU GUTLESS SHIT!!!

  • April 4, 2012, 10:20 p.m. CST

    by alex

    if there is a god don't let this happen