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The Kidd Vs. THE RAID: REDEMPTION

Published at: March 30, 2012, 7:23 p.m. CST by The Kidd

 

Good action seems to be hard to find these days. What I’m subjected to on a regular basis is typically a poor excuse for what passes as action lately – shit blowing up for no reason and special effects running wild killing mass quantities of faceless and nameless victims that I’m never given a reason to care about. It all starts to blend together after awhile, so, when something truly phenomenal shoves its way to the forefront, you take notice. Needless to say, you’ll be paying attention to THE RAID: REDEMPTION. If not, it’ll slam your head repeatedly into a wall until you do.

I had been hearing fantastic things about the film since it premiered at last year’s Toronto International Film Festival. “The best action movie in years” seemed to be the consensus, which only raised the bar of expectations to pretty lofty heights. How could a movie being mentioned in the same breath as greatness like DIE HARD possibly live up to the hype? That’s pretty simple – by presenting something exciting, something exhilarating, and something that doesn’t feel like a chore to watch for once. THE RAID: REDEMPTION offers up a simple plot, infuses it with energy and intensity and just lets it rip for an hour and 40 minutes.

Here’s the basic rundown of it… the merciless drug lord Tama Riyadi (Ray Sahetapy) has set up shop in a high-rise apartment building in the middle of Jakarta. For a decade, it’s been a no-police zone, with anyone high enough up on the law enforcement food chain having been paid off to ignore it. He may be the premiere resident of the building, but, over the years, Riyadi has been renting out apartments to any seedy motherfucker of the criminal world looking for a place to stay. Today is the day his building is going to be raided and his operation taken down, but, in addition to dealing with him, his right-hand man Andi (Donny Alamsyah) and his wildest henchman accurately called Mad Dog (Yayan Ruhian), the SWAT team is going to have to go floor by floor, attempting to take the building and everyone in it until they get their man.

Rama (Iko Uwais), a rookie member of the SWAT team, is at the center of most of the film, but THE RAID: REDEMPTION has far too much action going on for it to be pinned to one actor. Director Gareth Evans is the real star of the movie, masterfully creating thrilling set piece after set piece in this rundown tenement, with real stakes for the heroes – kill or be killed.

It’d be easy for a movie with such a heavy amount of martial arts and gunplay to get dull and repetitive after awhile, but Evans, with the help of Uwais and Ruhian (who also serve as fight coordinators), manages to make every physical encounter feel fresh, paced beautifully to Mike Shinoda and Joseph Trapanese’s score to take full advantage of the adrenaline rush you get every time no bad guys arrive on the scene ready to throw down.

Evans and cinematographer Matt Flannery make tremendous use of the space, avoiding the pratfalls many filmmakers get trapped into when doing action right now. Everyone wants to try to make the action look cool, forgetting the simple fact that action looks cool already. There’s no need to incorporate the shaky cam style or zoom in on the participants so closely that it makes it rather impossible to not only see who’s winning a fight but who’s involved. Evans instead uses a lot of wide shots, which may be less visually interesting, but serves the purpose of showcasing the action far more effectively. Whether it’s a tight hallway or a shithole unit in the building, the fighting is allowed to be beautiful in its own right, not ruined with attempts at overstylization. Sometimes less is indeed more, and THE RAID: REDEMPTION proves it.

    

There’s enough to the heroes to root for their success while fearing for their lives, and the villains are a pleasure to watch in all of their deviousness. Riyadi and Mad Dog, in particular, are characters so vile you almost can’t help but gravitate towards them, if not for being given good guys you can actually care about. It’s always more fun to watch the bad guys at work, and here you get the sense Sahetapy and Ruhian are having a blast playing them. Mad Dog loves to fight, and we come to love watching him do it.

THE RAID: REDEMPTION is a tremendous action flick, and it’s certainly not jumping on the bandwagon to call it one of the best action movies I’ve ever seen. The film backs up such a statement emphatically by kicking your ass relentlessly throughout its duration. Plus, how can you knock any movie that features its own machete gang? Don’t waste your time with one of these big budget, special effects-driven “blockbusters” that insult your intelligence by proclaiming you’ll be witnessing an action-packed experience. THE RAID: REDEMPTION doesn’t make those promises. It just lets its action speak louder than such words.

 

-Billy Donnelly

"The Infamous Billy The Kidd"

BillyTheKidd@aintitcool.com

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  • March 30, 2012, 7:24 p.m. CST

    So You Like It, I'm Guessing :)

    by Longtime Lurker

  • March 30, 2012, 7:34 p.m. CST

    What.... No Action in This Room?

    by Longtime Lurker

    The movie is popular...Billy is popular....am I the reason everyone is avoiding this room? :) So sorry. I'll just be leaving now. (Gee, I try so hard to be friendly to everyone). :)

  • March 30, 2012, 7:41 p.m. CST

    I really hope they roll this out nationwide...

    by SoylentMean

    but I'm guessing I'll end up having to catch this on home video.

  • March 30, 2012, 7:42 p.m. CST

    I skipped this to see Hunger Games. I regret that choice.

    by Pixelsmack

    I COULD HAVE HAD THE SOUP!!!!!

  • March 30, 2012, 7:45 p.m. CST

    Cannot wait to see this.

    by john

    Any talkbackers seen it?? Thoughts??

  • March 30, 2012, 7:48 p.m. CST

    This is the first movie I've seen this dude like

    by topaz4206

  • March 30, 2012, 8:07 p.m. CST

    I've read enough. When is this coming to Philly dangit...

    by Logan_1973

    I've been waiting two weeks through THE BORING GAMES and WRATH OF THE TITS for this to come to town.

  • March 30, 2012, 8:09 p.m. CST

    http://www.sonyclassics.com/theraid/dates.html

    by kinetickoala

    it comes out next week in philly. I saw this last week. I don't have anything more to say, really... I entered this with the highest possible expectations and all of them were blown away. If any of you have any questions about the film, let me know, and I'll do my best to answer them.

  • March 30, 2012, 8:12 p.m. CST

    Release Dates

    by The Infamous Billy The Kidd

    More of you will be getting it on the 6th... by the 13th, it'll be nationwide.

  • March 30, 2012, 8:14 p.m. CST

    it's showing in austin....

    by Noddy93

    but you'd never know it from this site. it's showing at the better-than-the-drafthouse Violet Crown Cinema on 2nd street.

  • March 30, 2012, 8:22 p.m. CST

    By the way,

    by kinetickoala

    I'm not sure why you said he uses a lot of wide shots, because he doesn't. The camera always seems to be a part of the action, maintaining the clarity needed for a good action movie but keeping the kinetic pace going.

  • Why do they keep doing this - re-scoring foreign films?? Makes no sense..

  • March 30, 2012, 8:26 p.m. CST

    Another good review

    by Pete Michaelson

    Well-written with a good explanation for why the film worked and why I should want to see it. I never really paid much attention to this movie; looks like something I probably want to see.

  • March 30, 2012, 8:43 p.m. CST

    Have you even heard the new score in its entirety, hansocrates?

    by kinetickoala

  • March 30, 2012, 9 p.m. CST

    Best movie of 2012 so far!!!!

    by garagons

    Fuck shaky cams and close-ups that don't let you see what's going on. If this movie had been made in the 80's it would be considered a classic next to Die Hard and Predator You can feel every kick breaking bones, the threat behind every swing of the machete and the tension of this cops hiding in a building where death awaits behind every corner GO SEE THE RAID NOW

  • March 30, 2012, 9:03 p.m. CST

    Aim it at her tits, Eddie...

    by Fa Fa Fooey

    That is all.

  • March 30, 2012, 9:08 p.m. CST

    I never cheered and clapped at a movie before

    by garagons

    But I dare you not to, specially after Mad Dog's fight. It's got some of the most awesome and brutal kills I've seen in a while

  • March 30, 2012, 9:24 p.m. CST

    garagons is right on...

    by Andrew Coleman

    The fight is awesome. The movie is end to end very solid and the fights are fantastic. They need to open this wide. I think there is some bias that only people on the coasts could watch a foreign action film. That's bull shit. I know plenty of people in the Midwest and elsewhere who would eat this up.

  • March 30, 2012, 9:28 p.m. CST

    Sounds like a video game

    by Mugato5150

    Make your way up each level in a building with the end boss at the top. Hope it's a little more complex than that.

  • March 30, 2012, 9:38 p.m. CST

    Is it Really That Good? - YES!

    by The E

    Believe the hype...I didn't want to get my hopes up, and expectations were already sky high with people throwing around classics like "Die Hard" and "Hard Boiled". But believe it and prepared to be owned! It's in the same class as those action classics. It's not as good as Die Hard (that's my all-time fav), but I liked it slightly more than Hard Boiled, and very reminiscent of that movie's kinetic action. I was surprised with the amount of martial arts in the movie, good combination of that along with knife and gunplay.<p><p> Run to see this if you're a fan of action movies.

  • March 30, 2012, 9:39 p.m. CST

    I liked this quite a bit.

    by justmyluck

    My nitpick was that it could have been trimmed by fifteen minutes or so as to remove the *hold everything while we have another martial arts extravaganza* feel. They also dropped the main villain for what seemed to be a half-hour and I was looking at my watch more than once. Other than that, great camera work, insane stunts, adept electronic soundtrack, brutal and inventive wall-to-wall violence. If that's what you're looking for, THE RAID delivers.

  • March 30, 2012, 9:49 p.m. CST

    Green crack is back

    by MooseMalloy

  • March 30, 2012, 10:08 p.m. CST

    Green Crack is great grass but the name doesn't work for me

    by Anthony Torchia

    and I ran out of money anyway This movie will blow what's left of my face clean off and I am looking forward to it :-)

  • March 30, 2012, 10:44 p.m. CST

    Damn you guys who can get headies

    by Aaron Cale

    Things are rough in Virginia

  • March 30, 2012, 11 p.m. CST

    I'll wait for Harry's review

    by animas

    He is the only one I trust to be completely wrong.

  • March 30, 2012, 11:30 p.m. CST

    There are few things in this world as awful as "The Kidd."

    by DanielPlainviewOnVacationInBoston

  • March 30, 2012, 11:32 p.m. CST

    Lives up to the hype!

    by Darth Thoth

    Saw this last week here in NYC and yes, it's true- this movie kicks all types of butt! I can't wait to see it again. The movie actually shook me. Yes, there were moments when I wanted to stand up and clap, throw fake punches and kicks in the air, and so on. I was basically on the edge of my seat the entire film. But those sentiments aside, there were some tense situations, character moments, plot twists, etc. that had major implications and that genuinely shook me for a variety of reasons. This movie pulls you in and doesn't let you go until the credits are done. Props to the entire team who put this flick together for really showing that you can have a relatively small budget of 1 million but if you have talent, passion, and respect for your material, you can make a film a billion times better than these well-funded cgi blockbuster crap fests we're usually fed. The Raid is legit and I can't wait to see it again!

  • March 30, 2012, 11:33 p.m. CST

    re: soundtrack/ score

    by Darth Thoth

    It was really good. My hope is that the blu-ray will allow us the option of being able to enjoy both versions of the score- the original and new. I'd love to hear how the original score works.

  • March 31, 2012, 12:04 a.m. CST

    Saw this last night

    by StrokerX

    Saw this last night with the storyboard team I work with. All 15 of us LOVED it. Best action movie I think I've ever seen. Amazing. Even the scenes in between the action were expertly shot. Everything was captivating. You'll see some of the best kills ever. The whole theatre was cheering and clapping multiple times. Awesome. I just wonder how the director will ever top this.

  • March 31, 2012, 12:08 a.m. CST

    The Audience were stunned at my screening..

    by Kid Dynamite

    Nobody and I mean nobody moved a muscle, and for the people who brought snacks to into the theater?? They didn't even picked it up and eat it once, lol... We were just mesmerized at what was on display here folks... Don't go expecting Crouching Tiger or Kung Fu Hustle like the Ads falsely tells you so... This is the kind of action movies that Orion/Cannon pictures used to produce.. Gareth Evans style is sick, just fucking sick!!!!! He makes David Fincher look like Sophia Coppola, okay I like Sophia Coppola... MAD DOG IS AN INDONESIAN TERMINATOR!!!!

  • March 31, 2012, 12:45 a.m. CST

    What the shit, Denver?!

    by BuckminsterOhare

    This was supposed to open next Friday at the Mayan, but now it's been pushed back a week. Fooey.

  • March 31, 2012, 12:57 a.m. CST

    Roger Ebert gave The Raid one star.

    by successor

    But then again he's the same guy who gave the first Die Hard two stars back in the day and then gave its sequel two enthusiastic thumbs up, so he can be just as fallible as any other critic. I might check it out if it comes near my area.

  • March 31, 2012, 1:22 a.m. CST

    This is all very interesting, but

    by Raggles Wimpole

    Why is no one talking about Taco Bell's new Doritos Locos Tacos? I ate one today & it is the greatest thing I've put into my mouth since that plant I found growing out of a pile of cow shit.

  • March 31, 2012, 2:18 a.m. CST

    they re-scored it?

    by raging bullshitter

    Is this a common thing to do with foreign films? That pisses me off what is the point if doing that?

  • and I end up LOVING THE HELL OUT OF THIS!!??

  • March 31, 2012, 8:08 a.m. CST

    So, Sacramento has.. what? 400 screens

    by gotilk

    and not one is playing this. But you can see a showing of The Crying Games every ten fucking minutes at every single cinema in town except the 2 art houses. (yeah, I know, with 2 art house cinemas, I can't really complain, can I?) C'mon Sac.

  • March 31, 2012, 8:09 a.m. CST

    RRRRGGGGHHHH...

    by Nice Marmot

    Get this fucker to Columbus, OH!!! NOW!!!!!!

  • March 31, 2012, 8:28 a.m. CST

    Gareth Evans is the star of this movie!!!!

    by Andrew Quinsatt

    Can't praise the guy enough, every single shot has his auteur signature style in full display... This is the kind of movie you just pop in your bluray player and make it look like a painting in on your wall...

  • March 31, 2012, 8:29 a.m. CST

    pffffft... ebert

    by goatboy500

    I respect Ebert as a film critic, but as a MOVIE critic, or as a commentator on modern society (ie video games) he just seems to miss the point completely. Also, the guy trashed Night Of the Living Dead back in the day... and then co-wrote Beyond The Valley Of The Dolls. The man's an anomaly.

  • March 31, 2012, 8:54 a.m. CST

    Don't believe the hype

    by Garbageman33

    It's fine. But it's no better than something like Ong Bak. Mentioning it in the same breath as 'Die Hard' is preposterous. The last fight scene (the one that lasts roughly 20 minutes) is hilarious. And I'm reasonably sure it's not meant to be. It makes the fight scene in 'They Live' look restrained and understated by comparison.

  • March 31, 2012, 9:01 a.m. CST

    @pixelsmack

    by SuperSaiyan2112

    You fucked up...I hope you enjoy the taste of cock down there in while the rest of us choose to have common sense.

  • March 31, 2012, 9:01 a.m. CST

    P.S.

    by SuperSaiyan2112

    Dumbass.

  • March 31, 2012, 10:09 a.m. CST

    @lisab

    by nothindude

    Do you know that the guy that you said winning pulitzer prize was once giving Speed 2 THREE stars but the other hand gave Die Hard TWO stars. He also gave MI:4 - Ghotocol THREE AND A HALF stars and what were the strong points of MI:4 that he mentioned over and over sometimes even in really detail? THE ACTION SEQUENCES. Even pulitzer prize winners can't help but having bias or double standard in their judgment.

  • March 31, 2012, 10:24 a.m. CST

    So it's this year's Attack the Block?

    by Uga

    Meaning a thoroughly underwhelming, cheesy piece of crap all the geeks cream over?

  • March 31, 2012, 10:49 a.m. CST

    The Raid is exactly what you paid your hard-earned dollars for...

    by yourstupid

    I fell for the AOTB hype, and paid dearly for it with my wife and friend when we saw it. The Raid, on the other hand, had me walking out with a big fucking smile on my face. It definitely had multiple wow factors that had me clapping with the audience. Don't see this on your computer or TV, go catch it with a lively crowd if possible.

  • March 31, 2012, 11:09 a.m. CST

    HEY KIDD...

    by Johnny Wrong

    ...you're a dick.

  • March 31, 2012, 11:24 a.m. CST

    Can it really be THIS good?

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    I fracking hope so! Bring on THE RAID!

  • March 31, 2012, 11:44 a.m. CST

    This movie ain't no Attack The Damn Block???

    by Andrew Quinsatt

    It's way fucking better, has better style and the Villain is way more fucking intense than some fucking Alien shit!!!!

  • March 31, 2012, 11:45 a.m. CST

    Attack the Block was the last time I was fooled by Ain't It Cool.

    by sweeneydave

    However, it was also the first time you guys unaminously recommended something that completely fell short for me. So while I will remain cautious, I'm still allowing myself to get a "little" excited about this.

  • March 31, 2012, 1:02 p.m. CST

    All of the clips I have seen of this look fucking stupid.

    by Ironhelix

    The fighting is that retarded, over-the-top, bullshit that no human being could ever actually pull off in an actual fight. If this were Jackie Chan, or had some supernatural spin to it, I would be on board. Seen too many actual fights to get off on this fantasy garbage.

  • March 31, 2012, 1:17 p.m. CST

    Saw this opening night...

    by spookymulder

    I thought it was okay. However, no way is this worth driving "hundreds of miles" to see nor is it better than "Die Hard", which I read in some dude's review. It has great fights and is generally pretty brutal but after all the hype on this, I walked out feeling a little underwhelmed. It's also one of those movies where you realize that they've practically shown you 90% of the good stuff online or in the trailers.

  • March 31, 2012, 1:19 p.m. CST

    @ironhelix

    by Andrew Quinsatt

    That's cool, at least you recognize Jackie Chan but I gotta tell you, it works in this film.. This isn't the Jackie Chan whimsical fighting choreography where he goes Buster Keaton on yah, the raid has a more realistic brutality approach to it.. You gotta see the knife fights in this, it's pretty dope...

  • March 31, 2012, 1:22 p.m. CST

    The problem with all the fights...

    by Garbageman33

    They go on way too long. How are we supposed to believe these guys are total badasses when it takes them about 100 punches and kicks to take out their opponents? They're essentially slap fights.

  • March 31, 2012, 1:24 p.m. CST

    None of the fight scenes hold a candle to this 5 second clip

    by Garbageman33

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVOQX56a9oQ. See, that's how you take a motherfucker out Not with 67 punches and kicks.

  • March 31, 2012, 1:30 p.m. CST

    As a matter of fact...

    by spookymulder

    Nothing in the Raid was this good, except MAYBE the two on one fight against the main henchman : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79ditPebZ8g&feature=related

  • March 31, 2012, 2:06 p.m. CST

    The 2-on-1 fight is exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about

    by Garbageman33

    We're supposed to be impressed that you double team the guy and hit him roughly 2,024 times before he finally succumbs (to boredom, presumably).

  • March 31, 2012, 2:13 p.m. CST

    They should rename this site "Ain't it Cool News Billy the Kid?!?!"

    by Marlboroliteman

    Well written review.

  • March 31, 2012, 2:44 p.m. CST

    Super duper moments

    by spookymulder

    I also thought the movie had a lot of those "final blow" moments that were meant to make you stand up and clap but at least half of those moments fell flat. I think that maybe if I had watched this in a packed theater that was going outright bananas, I may have dug it more. When I saw the 2nd Transformers movie, I enjoyed it simply because the crowd was so into it. And then I watched it again and hoo boy was that film ripe.

  • March 31, 2012, 4:14 p.m. CST

    @spookymulder

    by Keith Hayes

    So you're saying the reaction of the crowd determines whetehr YOU like a movie or not ?! WTF!! guess you suffer from groupthink. that's sad

  • March 31, 2012, 5:47 p.m. CST

    negative headline for a positive review

    by Adelai Niska

    But hey, Harry doesn't read this site so nobody'll notice that the Kidd sucks

  • I can see why some people love this movie but just call it what it is: action porn. There's lots of cool fights that go on forever but zero character development and an almost non-existent plot. Watching it feels like when you're sitting on a couch watching your buddy play a video game.

  • March 31, 2012, 6:57 p.m. CST

    Sounds like my initial prognosis may have been correct.

    by Mugato5150

    It sounded like a video game and that's still the impression I'm getting. I still want to see it and have an open mind but it's going to have to have a lot more that what I've heard to mentioned in the same breath with Die Hard. The best moments in Die Hard had nothing to do with kung fu or shooting.

  • March 31, 2012, 8:13 p.m. CST

    MY BALLSACK

    by Nial

    BRINGS ALL THE BOYS TO THE YARD

  • March 31, 2012, 8:24 p.m. CST

    @ lisab

    by Greg

    Lisa - Roger Ebert wrote the worst movie I've ever seen. BTVOTD is pure shit. Why would you even attempt to use him as a reference?

  • March 31, 2012, 8:39 p.m. CST

    Read Ebert's Review of The Raid and then...

    by CooGuy

    go read his review of Rumble in the Bronx. The dude loves Rumble for the same reasons he hates The Raid. I've seen The Raid twice already, seeing it for a third time tomorrow. You can't compare it to other action films. It's something totally different. This isn't a film deep with plot or characters; it's a brutal film filled with violence in the form of fists, knives, and machetes. I honestly don't understand any video game comparison, outside of the completely unoriginal thought of comparing the warehouse floors to levels in a game. This is a film about survival and showcasing Iko Uwais. If you didn't know that prior to attending a screening, maybe you should read more...

  • March 31, 2012, 8:47 p.m. CST

    I need to see this movie again, asap. It's amazing.

    by StrokerX

    I feel for those who were underwhelmed by this movie. This is the kind of movie I tell strangers about.

  • March 31, 2012, 8:50 p.m. CST

    I also liked how the action

    by StrokerX

    I also liked how the action was very diverse. It has almost everything. Great use of an environment too. Lots of creative things going on here.

  • April 1, 2012, 12:45 a.m. CST

    NOT Attack the Block

    by The E

    Not even in the same league. That movie sucked and was the clearly a victim of excessive and undeserved hype. I thought ATB was one of the worst movies I saw last year...while Raid is on the best action movie I've seen in the past few years.

  • April 1, 2012, 1:34 a.m. CST

    Are you kidding me...

    by Joe Damiani

    I have to go all the way to Hato Rey to see this? Boo!! Show it in Ponce godammit!!!

  • April 1, 2012, 3:11 a.m. CST

    Some good choreography too little too late. CG blood bore

    by uncanny_alley

    Watching this movie felt pretty much nothing the like Die Hard viewing experience due to the complete lack of humor. Particularly disappointing was how long it took to get the the martial arts for a movie I'd heard described as non-stop action. For what seemed like 40 minutes (I could be wrong), the 'action' is just a series of close-up and group bullets entering bodies assassination-style. After that, the first real Silat scene involves so much CGI stab wounds that it just seemed like some late Oldboy ripoff (from what I remember from that film, which I also disliked, for what that's worth in explaining where I'm coming from). After that, a few better fights occur that still felt hampered by the film's overbearing attempts at grittiness. There also weren't any stunts that blew my mind, with the most memorable being a guy who lands on his back, which seemed to break in the middle through the magic of CGI, which honestly killed the stunt to me. If I had only seen the trailer and never read the many glowing reviews, I'd have waited for netflix and watched halfway through. The most frustrating part is that I left the film thinking of other crappy modern southeast asian action films I'd I'd rather watch. Sure, "Born to Fight" 2004 suffers from the same flaws of pretentious seriousness/gloom and cg blood splatter, but at least with that film includes some of the most insane stunts/peril I have ever seen (and due to its more movielike 90's style I can derive some unintentional humor from its flamboyant attempts at patriotic gore-drama energy). I never watched Merantau because it's trailer did nothing to make me believe it was any better than its middling reviews suggested. Aside from the martial arts skill that is on display in the film's second half, this felt like another gloomy, bummer-based modern Western action film. Basically, this film just bumped up my rating for a lot of other modern martial arts films I've seen by making them all that much better by comparison.

  • April 1, 2012, 3:25 a.m. CST

    It's a karate movie, not an action movie.

    by Mr. Waturi

    Saw it. It's good, but the fight scenes are way too long. Had a headache 2/3 of the way through. Doesn't compare to Die Hard. That was an action movie. The Raid is a karate movie that takes place in a building.

  • You want The Kidd to explain why the American distributors changed the title from 'The Raid' to 'The Raid: Redemption'? I'm not sure that's his job, to be honest. You might as well be asking him to justify why no Titans clash in 'Clash of the Titans'. Or why there are no glass dolls in 'Short Night of Glass Dolls'.

  • April 1, 2012, 9:02 a.m. CST

    Saw it for the 2nd time..

    by Andrew Quinsatt

    The characters and the way the story unfolds is a lot better than you think it is.. It's certainly a lot better than most of the Action movies that came out in America in the last 5 years but that's really not saying much... To be honest I think this movie is just as good as Die Hard, in terms of suspending disbelief and enjoyment.. Remember The budget for The Raid is less than an Oscar Meyer commercial, that in itself is a remarkable achievement.. Can you imagine if Gareth Evans had the same Budget as Die Hard??? Very much looking forward to the sequel...

  • April 1, 2012, 9:39 a.m. CST

    I love the "this isn't an action movie..." talk

    by Hipshot

    The most honest thing people can say is: "this isn't an action movie, the way I define action movies" since there's no solid definition everybody agrees on. A movie that exists primarily for it's action-excitement? Sure, and there would be sub-genres of martial arts, war, crime, and so forth. Karate movies are mostly action films (not all--Karate Kid films are probably more character films or "coming of age" movies). All this stuff overlaps. And BTW--"Raid" looks fabulous.

  • April 1, 2012, 10:45 a.m. CST

    The Redemption part (SPOILERS)

    by Garbageman33

    I assume it's his brother that's redeemed, by turning his back on the crime lord to help the guy escape. Right?

  • April 1, 2012, 10:56 a.m. CST

    This was a piece of shit

    by David Duchovny

    Nothing but an extended video game cut scene (and not even up to Blizzard standards)

  • April 1, 2012, 11:38 a.m. CST

    @tittytwister: I'll let my nick answer your question! ;)

    by TheRaidKickedYourAss

    The Raid is fucking amazing! That is all!

  • April 1, 2012, 11:42 a.m. CST

    @kinetickoala

    by TheRaidKickedYourAss

    Your right! The camera is almost, like, tethered to the action at a distance that allows appropriate visibility while not feeling disconnected from the action proceedings!!! It's too good!!! Almost like live action bullet time, sort of!

  • April 1, 2012, 11:48 a.m. CST

    @mugato5150

    by TheRaidKickedYourAss

    It is more complex than just going floor to floor fighting bad guys but generally that's the idea. Point is you get on a roller coaster and say "I hope this ride is more complex than just going up high and then dropping and racing around the tracks." Thats what your there for!!! :)

  • April 1, 2012, noon CST

    The Machete gang was absolutely my fav part

    by Andrew Quinsatt

    Damn what an adrenaline rush and I love that part where he took the guys neck jump back through the door and impaled his neck through the broken door, fucking awesome!!!

  • April 1, 2012, 12:04 p.m. CST

    Shaky Cam

    by justin

    Did the Kidd really say that this doesn't have shaky cam? It has MORE shaky cam than anything else I've seen. Literally, nothing is going on and they are shaking it. If people are just talking, they hold it still, but jesus christ, that shit got so out of hand. Also this movie did not live up to expectations. It was enjoyable, but never ever mention this in the same breath as Die Hard.

  • April 1, 2012, 3:25 p.m. CST

    I really want to see this...

    by Winston Smith

    ...and I will. But I will admit, knowing how I reacted to other films in the past, a lot of the "OMG" comments seem suspicious to me. Attack the Block was a lot of fun but not brilliant. I don't know, hype does affect things, especially since SOMETIMES things do live up to the hype. But comparing it to Die Hard and Predator... I mean Die Hard is a fucking action classic with a great main character, and Predator builds such a great mood and feel and world. Don't fucking promise things that don't exist.

  • April 1, 2012, 3:27 p.m. CST

    Also...

    by Winston Smith

    If you didn't know that prior to attending a screening, maybe you should read more...

  • April 1, 2012, 6:42 p.m. CST

    @garbageman33 and @spookymulder

    by nothindude

    Do you know what is the problem with Ong Bak and Tom Yum Goong? Apart from the fight scenes, all SUCKED. Big time. Did we care about Jaa's character? NO. Did we care about all the characters surrounding him? NO. Did we care about the story? NO. What were we waiting for? FIGHT SCENES! But what did we get? We got only few fight scenes peppered into FILLERS which called bad story and bad characters. Actually that's also the problem of Hollywood action movies in the last decade or so. Too many fillers, too few fight/action scenes. That's what The Raid understands and turn it up side down. Almost no frills, but huge amount of action scenes. Enough story to hold all up together. I hope Prachya Pinkaew can come up with something similar with Tom Yum Goong-2 (he's filming now with Jaa). Just forget about the fillers/story/characters. Just make it enough to hold up the action. Give us what we want the most. MANY ACTION SCENES.

  • April 1, 2012, 7:21 p.m. CST

    My only point was that the action scenes in Ong Bak were better

    by Garbageman33

    I never said it was a better movie. Much like The Raid isn't a better movie than Die Hard. In fact, it should never again be mentioned in the same sentence. Not unless that sentence is, "The Raid isn't nearly as good Die Hard".

  • April 1, 2012, 7:23 p.m. CST

    It's like sitting on the couch watching your friend play a videogame

    by Garbageman33

    Perfect description.

  • April 1, 2012, 7:41 p.m. CST

    The Raid and Die Hard are completely two different fucking movies..

    by Kid Dynamite

    I really don't get the fucking comparison... What is it, that they're set in a fucking "Building?" Other than that, they are completely different from each other in terms of action... Is Die Hard the best example people can come up with in terms of the Greatest American Action Movie Of All Time???

  • April 1, 2012, 7:59 p.m. CST

    Assault On Precint 13 (Original) is the better comparison

    by Kid Dynamite

    Both made on a shoe string budget while Die Hard fucking cost like 28 mill????

  • April 1, 2012, 8:38 p.m. CST

    Assault on Precinct 13 is how I explained it.

    by Baked

    Except the gangs are in the building with the crimelord already. Or would it be the remake except the cops outside are good guys? Or would it be Assault on Precinct 13 and its remake combined into one movie. Yeah, I'll go with that. P.S. You can't spell The Raid without Die Hard. Well, except for the extra D...you can replace that with a T.

  • April 1, 2012, 8:56 p.m. CST

    @baked, Assault On Precinct 13 in reverse...

    by Kid Dynamite

    Assault On Precinct 13- Cops/good guys are in the building The Raid-Gangs and Crime-lord are in the building Assault On Precinct 13- Bad guys coming in to invade The Raid- Swat team is coming to invade the building

  • April 1, 2012, 11:08 p.m. CST

    The Kidd hasn't countered b/c he's been at Wrestlemania.

    by adeceasedfan

    Good ol' violence for violence sake.

  • April 2, 2012, 7:34 a.m. CST

    Why no Hardboiled comparison?

    by Coled Slawter

    John Woo's HARDBOILED took place in a multi-level hospital with insane action. Also the coolest henchman's name in that film was Mad Dog. It was also filmed in Asia. I realize the entire film didn't take place inside a building, but most of the action took place in large multi-level buildings on a smaller budget.

  • April 2, 2012, 7:46 a.m. CST

    The reason The Raid is being compared to Die Hard and Assault 13 is....

    by Andrew Quinsatt

    Because the Director is White???? This movie is 100% Asian, certified with A Me love You Long Time stamp of approval... I will be seeing this movie in the next two weeks and it'll be my third viewing of this movie, can't wait!!!

  • April 2, 2012, 10:20 a.m. CST

    @phillybul31: Groupthink

    by spookymulder

    Not saying that at all but you have to admit that it's hard not to get swept up in a film when a theater full of cheering, laughing, clapping, etc. people get all into it. Like I said before, Transformers 2 was an absolute piece but the crowd was so into it that it didn't seem so bad... that is until I watched it again at home. I've throughly enjoyed films that the rest of the audience absolutely hated and vice versa. I think the level of hype for this film truly oversold the film. I enjoyed Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol a hell of a lot more than I did this but is it even fair to compare the two? I don't know.

  • April 2, 2012, 12:06 p.m. CST

    So hope Palsey-cam would fuckin' go away

    by Guy Grand

    Glad to hear the director lets the action take place in the frame, instead of the frame being the shitty action. Hell, even the Hunger Games is fuckin' unwatchable in its jerky, shitty cinematography. Don't get me started on the pinnacle of shitty lazy fucking action direction -- Quantum of Solace. Good-for-nothing Hollywood directors of today -- you want something innovative and "new" in your car chases, study Frankenheimer's Ronin. Don't hire the Parkinson's DP.

  • April 2, 2012, 3:38 p.m. CST

    Just saw it

    by elsachmo

    Really good film. Pretty much action from start to finish. The fight scenes are very violent and more in the "realistic" realm. The story is simple but good and leaves you satisfied but also anticipating a sequel. Films like Ong Bak have more creative and flashy fights, but, if you're into violent martial arts action flicks, you should certainly check it out.

  • April 2, 2012, 5:42 p.m. CST

    @lisab

    by The Infamous Billy The Kidd

    Sorry, but it's not really my job to try to dispute another critic's take or assessment of the material. Roger Ebert likes what he likes, and I like what I like. THE RAID is the type of film that you either give yourself over to entirely, accept it for what it is and enjoy it... or you don't. It's as simple as that. From reading Ebert's perspective, I think he was probably looking for a bit more to the film than there is, but, at least for me, the film was exciting. It gave me enough to the characters to care whether they lived or died. And this wasn't groupthink. This wasn't sitting in a theatre full of people all enthusiastically buying into what they're seeing on-screen. I watched this with a smattering of press, who may or may not have had the same reactions as me. But, as I sat there, I was drawn further and further into the movie.

  • April 3, 2012, 10:51 p.m. CST

    @garbageman33

    by nothindude

    The action scenes in both Ong Bak and Tom Yum Goong are not better than The Raid. The only one that really stands out from both was when Jaa fighting inside a burning temple in TYG. The choreography was great on that one. The remaining action/fight scenes in both movies were bad. Poor choreography, in fact there's almost no choreography at all. We only saw Jaa kicking everybody's ass. No resistance at all from the opponents. They were all just like punching bags. Even in the end of TYG when he had to deal with many people in suits also when he had to fight against several big white guys, those were totally lame. The other Thai movie that had similar good fight scene was Chocolate. The entire fight scenes in the movie were bad, similar to Ong Bak and TYG. But there's one fight scene that was good, it was when Jeeja Yanin had to fight against a small guy with eye glass. The choreography was very good on that one. Sadly, the other fight scenes were just similar to both Ong Bak and TYG. Really bad. Poor choreography. One thing that should be mentioned in terms of fight scenes is that The Raid is very well shot and edited. Thai movies like Ong Bak, TYG, Chocolate, generally were poorly shot and edited.

  • April 9, 2012, 11:34 a.m. CST

    Redeemed

    by Giltar

    This explains the title...sort of http://theraid-movie.blogspot.com/2012/02/raid-trailer-and-that-title.html

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