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A PROMETHEUS TV Spot with some new shots!

Hey folks, Harry here...   Looks like this TV spot for PROMETHEUS has just hit the web, not a terrible lot of new footage, but there's a couple of really fun new shots that has me a tad excited.   So those of you wanting PROMETHEUS to feature the classic ALIEN, don't get all crazy hung up on that beastie...  There's a chance you won't see much of anything of that character.   We'll be getting a lot of Space Jockey though...   Including some very nightmarish stuff if what I hear is accurate.   Can't wait to see that stuff!

Here's the spot...  Still lusting after it?

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  • March 24, 2012, 8:47 p.m. CST

    Finally! "From the director of Alien, Blade Runner, and Gladiator..."

    by Royston Lodge

    It's about time the marketing put Alien and Blade Runner front-and-centre.

  • March 24, 2012, 8:51 p.m. CST

    Im guessing Stringer Bell doesnt make it through this

    by GravyAkira

    And these ads at the top of the page are getting really f*cking annoying AICN!!!

  • March 24, 2012, 8:54 p.m. CST


    by KilliK

  • as an android following orders from the corporation? as a bionengineered secret agent from teh Space Jockeys who transforms into the Alien Queen or something similar? place your bets.

  • March 24, 2012, 8:57 p.m. CST

    This film is still not rated.

    by KilliK

    dont keep us on agony mr Scott.we all know it's going to be PG13.

  • March 24, 2012, 8:58 p.m. CST

    Still not rated?

    by skellngtn

    C'mon! give it a good R already! Shows on basic cable like Walking Dead are chock full of gory crap and curse words. The marketing for this has got a buzz going, even among non-genre fans. Dark Knight Rises marketing has been awful quiet...

  • March 24, 2012, 9 p.m. CST

    What the hell is Elba saying there at the end?

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Can't quite make it out. I'm surprised by how much they seem to be showing... ...and by how familiar it all feels.

  • March 24, 2012, 9:02 p.m. CST

    re:killik like AvP?


    I didn't see a pyramid or a slow motion face hugger anywhere in that commercial. And that is about all that that piece of shit AvP consisted of. That and a bunch of really stupid looking Predator designs.

  • March 24, 2012, 9:06 p.m. CST

    This film is not yet rated PG-13!

    by BeanGrud

  • Arclight...I await your opening day.

  • March 24, 2012, 9:09 p.m. CST

    Notice the small ship


    flying off as the Prometheus is about to ram the Giger ship/derelict? Wonder who's in that thing?

  • March 24, 2012, 9:10 p.m. CST

    =I didn't see a pyramid =

    by KilliK

    You mean that retarded idea of an ancient pyramid in the alien universe,a place where xenomorphs were serving some special use of another alien species,yes or no?

  • March 24, 2012, 9:11 p.m. CST

    THe man kisses the lady in this one

    by ajit maholtra

    This might be a nice one.

  • March 24, 2012, 9:11 p.m. CST

    Theron as evil android, Fassbender as good android

    by EleanorofAquitaine

    @ Killik. Re: Charlize Theron as villian. I think you are spot on the money. Re; trying to tell what the movie is about from the brief visual tidbits we have been given. It all seems sort of predictable from what we have seen in the trailers so far. But there must be more. Mustn't there?

  • March 24, 2012, 9:12 p.m. CST

    Nightmarish stuff with the Space Jockey, eh?

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    It would be NICE if people would ELABORATE on these insider-like statements EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE!!!

  • March 24, 2012, 9:16 p.m. CST

    @ kilik

    by korbermeister

    only unexpected if you haven't been keeping up with the info leakage

  • March 24, 2012, 9:17 p.m. CST

    Just saying I didn't see a pyramid


    Didn't say if pyramids or some alien species using one was dumb or not. What are you trying to say killik?

  • March 24, 2012, 9:22 p.m. CST

    Just clap your hands everybody. And everybody clap your hands.

    by ajit maholtra

    We're lambda lambda lambda and omega moo.

  • March 24, 2012, 9:24 p.m. CST

    =Dark Knight Rises marketing has been awful quiet... =

    by KilliK

    BINGO. that's what i was saying to friend of mine a few days ago. TDKR ad campaign was on fire causing a very big buzz among the fans.Every day we had leaked photos,videos,leaked parts of the script,posters,interviews,a teaser,a trailer and a 10m screen preview of the movie's start.Fans couldnt stop discussing about what was going to happen in the movie while dissecting every little info they could from the leaked stuff and the official trailers/footage. we had at least one talkback every week in AICN. And then all that suddenly more leaked footage or new trailers,teasers,interviews or posters.the absolute silence. The TDKR mysteriously seems to to be on a halt and my speculation for the reason behind it is: 1.The studio decided to take a break until the premiere of some of the other big movie events and then the ad campaing will start again without the "noise" of those movies. 2.The problem with Bane's intelligible voice in the screen preview and Nolan's initial refusal to fix it was considered as a big fuckup in the marketing department.So the studio decides to keep it low until the voice problem is fully fixed and the initial negative reaction is forgotten.They they will start again their aggressive campaign.I wouldnt be surprised if they release a new trailer with Bane talking throughout it so that we can see for ourselves that this specific problem has been resolved for good. anyway.

  • if you dont think it is a dump idea?

  • March 24, 2012, 9:30 p.m. CST

    killik, also, sometimes the less you know is better

    by ajit maholtra

    When you know too much, then you don't even need to see the movie. Because you see the whole movie in the commercials. They dont need to do another advertisement for Batman. All the seeds have been planted and everyone will be checking to see whats happening with that movie and wanting to know when they can buy their tickets. That will be the greatest movie of this year.

  • March 24, 2012, 9:32 p.m. CST

    @mr nice gaius "how familiar it all feels"

    by EleanorofAquitaine

    Yes, I agree. Maybe it is because there has been so much done since "Alien" that it is imposible to re-capture the lightning in a bottle, but the trailers keep reminding me of other movies or TV shows: A big mysterious head in a cave, just like the big mysterious foot in the beach in "Lost". More tension about the nature of humanity in a world populated by actual humans and human-looking androids, just like "Battlestar Galactica". Ancient carvings that reveal a star map, just like "Stargate". Self-sacrifice of pilot who rams his ship into the other starship to protect the escaping survivors, just like the new "Star Trek". Now, maybe they are purposefully putting those things into the trailers because they know the average moviegoer prefers predictability over something original; at least, I hope that is the strategy, and it's not because the movie really is just a mixture of these references. I am determined to remain optimistic.

  • March 24, 2012, 9:33 p.m. CST

    @ajit_maholtra i agree.

    by KilliK

  • March 24, 2012, 9:35 p.m. CST

    Keep watching these clips, guys

    by TitusPullo

    and have more things spoiled for you from your initial viewing experience. Anyone remember going into movies cold?

  • March 24, 2012, 9:36 p.m. CST

    =Self-sacrifice of pilot =

    by KilliK

    who happens to be a black guy who sacrifices himself to save the other wh... oh fuck like we didnt see it from a mile that the only black man in a scifi movie was going to end up like this.

  • March 24, 2012, 9:36 p.m. CST

    tng ep - the chase

    by SpencerBarnes

    sounds like.

  • Ridley announced that the basic idea of the movie was that aliens were the "gods" created mankind.that must be the most unoriginal scifi concept ever.

  • March 24, 2012, 9:38 p.m. CST

    I miss grungy/sleek/back-lit/smoked-up-set/anamorphic35 Ridley Scott!

    by The_Genteel_Gentile

    It just looked more... real! I mean, there was palpable texture to Scott's lived in aesthetic of old. This looks too clean. Too sterile. Too plastic. Too video game. Too Paul W.S. Anderson! This looks good but... I really hope Ridley isn't gonna go digital 3D from here on out! I'll never understand why a shot-calling aesthetic formalist would ever choose the inferiority of digital over the timeless living-magic luster of film.

  • March 24, 2012, 9:39 p.m. CST

    Anybody out there who thinks this looks like AVP is a cunt.

    by elgato73

  • March 24, 2012, 9:40 p.m. CST

    @riseofphantomcreeps where did you see me complaining about P?

    by KilliK

    i am one of the first people who are going to see this movie when it gets out.and then i will judge it. so until then,CHILL as his highness Michael Bay would say. ;)

  • March 24, 2012, 9:41 p.m. CST

    My problem with AvP is mostly with the idea itself


    Not so much with ancient alien pyramids. I mainly just don't like Predators being in the same universe as Aliens. It just seems a little goofy to me. Less like a legitimate extension of either series and more like some kind of nerd "what if Spider-Man fought Batman?" type of time waster. Maybe it's fun in a comic book, but as a movie it just brings both of those separate series down in overall quality IMHO. Both of these series were B-movie ideas done at A-movie budget and production value. AvP takes those A-movies and drags them back down to B territory. Oh and Paul Ws Anderson is a pretty shit filmmaker. So there's that.

  • March 24, 2012, 9:42 p.m. CST

    And TDKR apparently has no viral marketing campaign.

    by elgato73

    Because it should be in full swing by now. Back in 2008 at this very same time, TDK's campaign was in full swing and fucking people's shit up all over the world. Team Nolan so far in 2012=all I hear is crickets.

  • March 24, 2012, 9:46 p.m. CST

    Avatar was gonna fuck your eyeballs.

    by Sardonic

    Prometheus will brutally rape them.

  • March 24, 2012, 9:47 p.m. CST

    DID SHE SAY AN INVITATION???????????????????

    by KilliK

    OH BOY OH BOY OH BOY not only this "invitation" line makes one of the plots from Prometheus very similar to one of the plots from AVP,but it also confirms one of the plots from the supposed leaked Prometheus script. hmmmmmmm.....

  • March 24, 2012, 9:51 p.m. CST

    =supposed leaked Prometheus script.=

    by KilliK

    i meant the plot summary that someone "revealed" in the Prometheus forum in the IMDB and then it was pasted here in the AICN talkbacks.The plot summary was supposedly debunked but a lot of stuff that we have seen in the trailer have already been described in that summary.and then comes this invitation line.hmmm.

  • March 24, 2012, 9:51 p.m. CST


    by Johnny Wrong


  • March 24, 2012, 9:53 p.m. CST

    @riseofphantomcreeps hey man no problem.

    by KilliK

    we are all here discussing our favorite movie and as fanboys we can sometime be very passionate with our opinions or our's understandable,nothing to worry about.

  • Well I prefer the low tech scrambled variation of that type of scene as dipicted in "Stargate" (chalkboard scribbling), "Event Horizon" (pushing a pensil through a folded paper) and "Armagedddon" (crude toys and models). Those just seem more in-the-moment, effecient and practacal. They have more of a sense of discovering something on the fly. There's a sort of exuberant momentum and vitality to that, as if to say "look we don't have time to put together a history channel presentation but this is what we got so follow me because we're moving here!".

  • i dont think so.

  • March 24, 2012, 9:58 p.m. CST

    @the_genteel_gentile actually that scene reminded me Contact

    by KilliK

    when they were trying to decipher the coded alien message.

  • March 24, 2012, 9:59 p.m. CST

    Geeks who hate progress just bore me lately.

    by gotilk

    I'm not even mad about it. Really? You wanted this shot on film in 2d? Yawn. It's probably precisely why he's back doing sci-fi again. New tools. Excitement. Discovery. Mastery. Your reaction to that is.... odd. But predictable. There is a place for old techniques/formats. This isn't one of those places. When it's right to use a model, use one. When it's right to go practical, do it. When it's right to shoot in 2d, black and white, or use CG? Then it's right. I'm thinking it's that old nostalgia shit, in the end. Meh.

  • March 24, 2012, 9:59 p.m. CST


    by KilliK

    going for some zzz,i ll check this talkback later in the morning. cheers.

  • It's Minority Report-esqe - visually.

  • March 24, 2012, 10:02 p.m. CST

    Finally saw the trailer today

    by Stormshadow4life

    before Hunger looked AMAZING. I'm sold

  • March 24, 2012, 10:04 p.m. CST

    For some reason, "The Voice" guy really bugged me

    by ATARI

    Took me out of the moment. I must now go watch the official trailer again to cleanse my pallet.

  • March 24, 2012, 10:04 p.m. CST

    gentile. PWSA? really?

    by adeceasedfan


  • Movies where guys scream "Cut it off" are not PG-13.

  • March 24, 2012, 10:16 p.m. CST

    Just hit the net? Uh, yeah... two days ago.

    by RockHardTobascoSlimJim

    Fucking AICN. What the hell happened to you? You used to be beautiful.

  • March 24, 2012, 10:16 p.m. CST

    @ gotilk - when something ain't broke don't try fixing it with something inferior!

    by The_Genteel_Gentile

    That's like saying that if you've got a mint classic 1968 Ford (like Steve McQueen's in "Bullitt"), you ought to trade it in for a new Volkswagen Prius because it's safer and more fuel effecient. Well to hell with that! Truthfully the only guy that even uses digital 3D well IS Paul W.S. Anderson because he's technically savy and he exploits the hell out of its gimmickry - which is all 3D is good for! "Hugo" was good too, but that's because Robert Richardson is beyond genius! Scorsese's just smart enough to know who's coattails to hitch onto! Those are the ONLY live-action films that have truely benifited at all from being shot in digital 3D! Everything eles is beter in 2D and would have been better if shot on film and better still if on anamorphic lenses!

  • March 24, 2012, 10:18 p.m. CST


    by mystrokapp

    Has a major studio released an R rated cut simultaneously as a PG-13 cut? I know there was that post-Oscar-nomination thing with The King's Speech last year but what's keeping them from releasing both if they already have both cuts? I mean, they're already going to have one showroom playing 3D and one 2D. Seems like a good way to maximize profits, to boot.

  • March 24, 2012, 10:22 p.m. CST

    @ adeceasedfan - I actually kinda like PWSA! - In a kitschy dort of way!

    by The_Genteel_Gentile

    He, Roland Emmerich and Stephen Sommers are like the kings of fun/schlocky b-movie extravaganzas! PWSA is certainly a rather crude storyteller, but he definitely has a mind for the technical side of filmmaking craft. I've always thought he missed his true calling as a Production Designer actually.

  • March 24, 2012, 10:29 p.m. CST

    by max

    The mpaa does not allow simultaneous release ov a movie with 2 seperate cuts and 2 ratings.

  • March 24, 2012, 10:30 p.m. CST

    @ the_genteel_gentile Not passing judgment.

    by adeceasedfan

    The comparison seemed a bit of a stretch, but I hear ya.

  • March 24, 2012, 10:30 p.m. CST

    You know what - I'm gonna go breakout my DVD of "Outland" and watch it!

    by The_Genteel_Gentile

    Peter Hyams baby! OLD SCHOOL Ridley knock-off!

  • Its also a stupid rule.

  • March 24, 2012, 10:35 p.m. CST

    I was mighty surprised to see this run during the Tournament tonight

    by Logan_1973

    Me thinks the marketing is about to heat up...

  • March 24, 2012, 10:39 p.m. CST

    HEADS UP!!!

    by GravyAkira

    They just showed the commercial on ESPN, and you could actually make out what Stringer Bell was screaming before the ships crash. Seems like they made some audio adjustments throughout the day because I had no I idea what he was saying in the earlier versions like the one posted in this forum.

  • March 24, 2012, 10:40 p.m. CST

    @ adeceasedfan - Well Ridley is in my top 5 filmmakers of all time!

    by The_Genteel_Gentile

    So PWSA is a reidulous stretch in terms of quality. But as a visual craftsman, PWSA is competent. All I'm insinuating is that the visuals seem more akin to PWSA's competence rather than Ridley's patented aesthetic. Ther are definitely shots in "Prometheus" that are very much comparible to similar shot's found within Anderson's oeuvre. To deny that would be a lie. I certainly expect "Prometheus" to be lightyears better in every conceivable respect from that which is found in a Paul W.S. Anderson picture. But I do understand what some people are alluding to.

  • March 24, 2012, 10:44 p.m. CST

    "I Need a Fuckton of Attention" by killik

    by Rex Carsalot

  • March 24, 2012, 10:47 p.m. CST

    @ the_genteel_gentile I shouldn't argue.

    by adeceasedfan

    I saw Mortal Kombat twice theatrically. :(

  • March 24, 2012, 10:52 p.m. CST

    Did they give away ending at 26 sec. mark?

    by Mr. Waturi

    The crash seems like a pretty big spoiler.

  • March 24, 2012, 11:05 p.m. CST

    I really wanna see this movie.

    by Shermdawg

    Like really bad and stuff.

  • March 24, 2012, 11:15 p.m. CST


    by James Robert Smith

    Looks to be a really insightful work. I can see a lot of subversive themes running through the bits of story we've been allowed to see.

  • March 24, 2012, 11:27 p.m. CST

    It looks like AvP...except for...

    by kells

    ...the fact that it won't suck my balls and that it doesn't look anything like AvP.

  • March 24, 2012, 11:32 p.m. CST

    Nice ad but about 6 weeks too early

    by ThrowMeTheIdol

  • March 24, 2012, 11:33 p.m. CST

    @mr. waturi Nah, I bet the crash is the end of the 2nd act.

    by hank henshaw

    The final act will be the events that lead to the creation of the alien/xenomorphs/starbeast. The last bit will probably be to send out the warning, that will later be used by Mother to find lv-426.

  • March 24, 2012, 11:37 p.m. CST

    From what I can gather

    by Relugus

    I think the scene with the waterfalls in the trailers is part of the opening montage prologue. That probably then transitions into Shaw and Holloway making the discovery scene. The planet may be in the process of terraforming judging by the changing weather conditions we have seen in the trailers. The crew probably mutate in different ways. Given Shaw's beliefs and her relationship with Holloway, it's likely he mutates into a Space Jockey. It makes dramatic sense; all that she believed in and loved is destroyed by the beings she had naively believed had invited her. In a previous trailer we saw Ford and another crew member shaking oddly. In true horror fashion we will almost certainly see the crew mutate in different ways. Trailers can be very misleading because they juxtapose dialogue from different scenes and show things in a different order to how they actually occur. If Vickers is the villain, why would she warn Shaw and Holloway to not go out (I incline to think they are trying to rescue a crew member). I think the crew are cautious and don't tamper with the urns...but David and Holloway can't resist their curiosity and go and secretly nab them. I get the distinct impression David is doing his research clandestine.

  • March 24, 2012, 11:38 p.m. CST

    Now if we can just get Cameron to follow up.

    by OnO

    This movie is pissing me off. We have a shit load time before it releases and we tv spots all ready? AVP. Okay sure I can see that. Just remember AVP ripped off the whole Alien Pyramid horse shit from the original ALIEN even if it was an unused concept. Of course Fox green lit that and proably love the whole new Ridley Scott Jockey Pyramid. Or as I like to call it Hangar fuck your shit up. Part of me is seeing no original Jockeys, but some horrible trap with a Human getting turned into the giant pilot meant to kill his species. Huh? Huh? Summer can't get here fast enough. Don't suck you beast of movie.

  • March 24, 2012, 11:48 p.m. CST

    So the Aliens are like the puppet-masters?

    by JAGUART

    They "Pull The Strings"? I like that!

  • March 24, 2012, 11:48 p.m. CST

    TNG. The Chase

    by EleanorofAquitaine

    @spencerbarnes. Yes, I had forgotten about that. Does sound familiar, doesn't it? Add that to my long list above of TV shows and movies that the trailers keep reminding me of. It seems sort of odd that the man who everyone else has imitated since "Alien" and "Bade Runner" should populate this movie (or at least these trailers) with so many references to other recent sci fi tropes. Unless he is doing it deliberately, so he can turn the references on their head. Is it July yet...?

  • March 24, 2012, 11:53 p.m. CST

    too many trailers is no good

    by Titus05

    there needs to be a balance between showing too much and maintaining some mystery and surprise...Prometheus is getting dangerously close to overexposure much like Dark Knight Rises

  • March 24, 2012, 11:53 p.m. CST

    The archaeologist that look more like models is reminiscent of AVP.

    by The_Genteel_Gentile

    The Archaeologist bit definitely evokes memories of the opening scenes of "AVP". And the lazer probe thing, and the cleanly eloborate production design certainly are similar to visual trademarks found in Paul W.S. Anderson movies. As much "Redident Evil" as "AVP" though. But then again, along with video games, graphic novels and anime, much of the remainder of PWSA's visuals are cued from Ridley Scott's influence to begin with. Most blatantly in "Event Horizon"... and "AVP". To say these things don't look anything alike is just incorrect. But of course the difference is that Ridley will be consistant and smart, and the visuals will serve the story, and the movie will be, y'know... good - so the visuals are really where the comparisons end in respect to PWSA!

  • March 24, 2012, 11:55 p.m. CST

    ^^ (that was directed toward "kells") ^^

    by The_Genteel_Gentile

    I was responding to you bud!

  • March 24, 2012, 11:56 p.m. CST

    The trailers actually give away little

    by Relugus

    Some of the things are obvious because we can deduce the dramatic tropes that will inevitably be invoked. Alot of people would have sussed Holloway's fate if you just showed he and Shaw at that excavation site. However, what actually happens and how it happens is much less clear. What happens to Shaw and Vickers after the Derelict crashes? Will we see various mutations or one unifying one? Will there be more than one Space Jockey? What is the Saucer we see above the waterfalls? What are David's motives? Vickers may, for all we know, start off as the villain but go through an arc where she becomes good. David might start off good and become a villain; I get the impression he takes something he shouldn't. I would add that the Space Jockey in the chair in Alien is, like Prometheus, "chained" to a "rock".

  • March 25, 2012, 12:10 a.m. CST

    For some reasonI can't get hyped like I'd like to for this.

    by The_Genteel_Gentile

    I causiously optomistic and pretty much just taking for granted that it will be excellent due to the fact that Ridley's never really let me down before. I think the one aspect that is preventing me from going gonzo with enthusaism is that it doesn't particularly LOOK like vintage Ridley Scott. That and the fact that the entire cast are far to attractive to be playing scientist - should have dipped into the vast reservoir of character actors associated with the PT Anderson/Tarantino/Coen Bros' repertory companies (like Bay does!). Only Fassbender's robot should look so pretty! Seriously, remember when sci-fi movies used to star actors like Roy Scheider, Richard Dreyfuss and freaking Harry Dean Stanton!? C'mon, who is this Logan Marshall-Green chump!?

  • March 25, 2012, 12:13 a.m. CST

    I've never bought Charlize Theron as "smart".

    by The_Genteel_Gentile

    Maybe it's just me.

  • March 25, 2012, 12:18 a.m. CST

    Killik --- TDK came out in 2008, not 2009...

    by jawsfan

    which at least partially explains the absence of viral marketing for it in 2009.

  • TDK got a HUGE FUCKING BOOST from the death of Ledger some six or seven months before the film came out. Unless something like that happens with TDKR too, the film won't get the same kind of pre-release mass hysteria that TDK did. TDKR will have to stand on its own merits. Uh oh.

  • One shot of a freakin' xenomorph and the crowd will lose it's shit!

  • March 25, 2012, 1:08 a.m. CST

    killik has slowly gone off the reservation...

    by Billy_D_Williams

    what happened?

  • March 25, 2012, 2:19 a.m. CST

    I bet we will see the alien....but only after....

    by Mike Holdbrook

    The Engineer's ship gets rammed by the Prometheus, one of the engineer's knows his race can't cause genocide, impregnates himself with alien DNA, straps himself in the chair and sends a beacon.....later, out pops the chest burster....the end.

  • So space jokey stuff that is nightmareish and accurate. Why fucking hint t that if youbas a leak site and a get there first site are just gonna say shit like that and not elaborate. No wonder you always reference other peoples leaks. Seem the embargos that come with head up arse are getting in the way of this sites historical primary function. May as well go to one of the other sites to get news first.

  • yep.

  • March 25, 2012, 3:41 a.m. CST

    Al i ask is for this movie to be good. that shall suffice.

    by AsimovLives

  • March 25, 2012, 3:46 a.m. CST

    This film is not yet rated...

    by bubcus

    Is the film even completed? I thought they don't get their rating until after a completed film is submitted for review. So unless that has occurred, it's premature to throw ratings around. And I do not see AVP in this at all. I see the first half hour of Alien richly expanded upon... better than I could have imagined.

  • one was directed by Paul WC Anderson, and the other by Sir Ridley Scott. I don't think i need to say more.

  • Fucking Damon Lidenoff write the script. That fucking minion of fucking JarJar "dumb is good" Abrams is involved. A thought that sends me shivers down my spine.

  • March 25, 2012, 3:49 a.m. CST

    paus = pause

    by AsimovLives

  • March 25, 2012, 4:40 a.m. CST

    Saw this today

    by lv_426

    Fuckin' awesome. My excitement is building. My boner for Prometheus is turning biomechanical! A biobonermechanoid! Must contain... excitement!!!!!!!!!!!

  • March 25, 2012, 4:43 a.m. CST

    Did you guys see this yet?

    by lv_426

    Prometheus pyramid = Giger's Harkonnen Castle design from Jodorowski's aborted DUNE

  • March 25, 2012, 4:45 a.m. CST

    Yutani Corp

    by lv_426

  • March 25, 2012, 4:51 a.m. CST


    by teddy_duchamp

    As they did with TDK, WB will obviously release a second full trailer around 3 months before the films release - im guessing end of April/early May. Question is can you resist watching it? I'm going to try.... that' would be pretty cool to go see TDKR having only seen the first trailer...... arrghh can it be done!? must resist!!

  • March 25, 2012, 4:53 a.m. CST

    How about this?

    by lv_426 See the multiple row of pyramids/temples receding into the background of the valley? They all seem to have the same type of wall around their perimeter as well. But the one closest, which is where the crew of the Prometheus seem to be heading to, has part of its wall broken down forming an opening to the temple structure. Did something get out and smash that wall down? Or was it purposely made that way? There seems to be a road going to it, from the Prometheus. I saw it in an article from the Alien blog Strange Shapes: I think the guy who writes this blog posts on here once in a while. Anyways, a great Alien blog. If you haven't already, any Alien fans should check it out.

  • ...Batman begins was up against Spielbergs WotW, Casino Royale, King Kong, Mr & Mrs Smith, it also had three trailers. TDKR has has a teaser, The Bane intro and a second trailer, with the last trailer released end of April. I don't think Nolan needs any relentless avengers style marketing for TDKR; do you?

  • in the other trailers. Then remember there was that little piece of something which flies out of/off of the Prometheus as it seems to be pointed at the rising alien ship. At :21 in the TV spot above, the pod/shuttle thing is in the foreground while Prometheus flies away. I am guessing that Theron bugs out, while Idris Elba plays chicken with the space jockey ship using the Prometheus.

  • March 25, 2012, 5:02 a.m. CST

    If that is an escape pod that Theron is getting into

    by lv_426

    it seems to fly like a shuttle vehicle. That would mean that it has some sort of manned or self guidance systems to help it land safely. If that is the case, then it really makes the EEV in Alien³ an even more retarded escape device, as that thing was not very useful at all in saving the lives of its passengers.

  • March 25, 2012, 5:08 a.m. CST

    asimovlives, Lindelof

    by lv_426

    I hear what you're saying. I think with Sir Ridley at the helm though, that things will be good. Also, remember that Lindelof was brought in as a second writer to work off of Jon Spaihts' script. So perhaps Lindelof didn't change much, being that he was wedged between Spaihts script, and Sir Ridley Scott calling the shots. It is odd though, that we haven't had any interviews with Spaihts, but Lindelof seems to be really at the forefront of the marketing of this film. I wonder why that is. Is Lindelof really THAT WELL KNOWN that he needs to be in nearly every damn big Prometheus interview with Chalize Theron and Sir Ridley? I suppose because he is part of team Abrams, it means he has a certain celebrity, or at least as much as screenwriters can have (like Orci, Kurtzman, and Diablo Cody for example).

  • So I am not all that worried that a screenwriter is going to hijack Prometheus away from Sir Ridley's vision.

  • March 25, 2012, 5:18 a.m. CST

    FATHER to a murdered WIFE. HUSBAND to a murdered SON.

    by SirGaryColeman


  • March 25, 2012, 5:47 a.m. CST

    Hopefully Elba lasts longer than Apone did!

    by ganymede3010

    Wasn't Apone the first one to die?

  • March 25, 2012, 6:01 a.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    I think a clue to why Lindelof is being used for the promotion of thyis movie can be found in the interview and youtube videos. You will notice that he talks like a total studio stooge. He's the voice of the studio, and you will notice how he is always toning down or made more "acessible" what the stars of director Ridley Scott says, as if he's a permanent dammage control aparatus. One notorious happening of that was the very earlier public appearence, where he was with Charlize Theron. Lindelof was playing the role of host/questioneer and asking this very derivative and scripted questions to Theron, and basically stearing her into the selling of the movie. Clearly frustrated but trying to mantain the good spirits of the event, she replies to Lindenlof "i know how to sell a movie" and from then on Lindenof shup up and let her do her job. She did very well, better and far more charismatically then he can. Theron is notorious for her very lady-like behavor in public while also sucessfuly selling the image of "i'm one of you despite my good looks jackpot". For her, in public,k to do a good humourous but pretty obvious admoestation on Lindelof LIVE, i think it tell a lot about the kind of character he is. A total studio stooge without a single moment of true spontaniety. Always a salesman. He was well trained by his mentor, the Mighty JarJar. That interive with he was with Ridley Scott, you can tell why he was there: to keep tabs on Sir Ridley. You can tell in interviews that Ridley is quite spontaneous, and he wil tell the stuff that's on his mind, only saving the truly secretive for laters. Also, due to his blue collar upbringing and his northern englishman personality, he has no problem cursing like a sailor while in a public venue. He's very frontal on what he says and he curses for emphasis. You can tell that Lindelof was there to do dammage control and explain the obvious, studio PR style. I found it quite amusing. No, i don't have much of a positive opinon of all those clowns who came out from under the JarJar's wings.

  • Lindelof's justification for TV being a writer's medium doesn't holp up much water to me. Is true worth is the fact he's a complacent go-to stooge guy for studios and networks.

  • March 25, 2012, 6:14 a.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    Well, speaking of Diablo Cody, i saw the movie YOUNG ADULT, which was based on he rlatest script, directed by Jason Reitman. And let me tell you this, despite all the hatred that goes on in here agaisnt her, she is the real deal. A fake could never write something like YOUNG ADULT. That is true work made by soembody with true talent. The fact that Jason Reitman can direct pretty well, and they had the great secret weapon of Charlize Theron playing the lead and thus proving beyond a shadow of a doubt what a fantastic actress she is, it sure did helped. but that movie would had been shit if the writing had been of inferior quality. So excuse me if i think a bit highly of Diablo Cody. Anybody who writes such a movie as YOUNG ADULT has real talent to show. Fake pseudo-geek frauds like Kurtzman, Orci and Lindelf couldnever, everin their lives pulled such a great and truthful script like Cody did for YOUNG ADULT. In fact, when i was watching YOUNG ADULT, the bitchy egomaniac deluded hackwriter main character reminded me of our pseudo-fellow talkbacker Boborci, aka The Bringer Of Shit, in that like the protagonist of YOUNG ADULT here's a deluded manchild who confuses commercial sucess with worth and who operates on completly wrong assuptions and will never learn important life lessons evne when they come down crashing on his head and he will keep on writing juvenile crap without a single atom of substance whatsoever. I had to laugh.

  • March 25, 2012, 6:15 a.m. CST

    ganymede3010, no, it was the other black guy.

    by AsimovLives

  • March 25, 2012, 6:32 a.m. CST


    by dcro1

    I rarely post but you're right on the money with Lindeloff. He's a corporate shill who strung people along with Lost selling it/milking it long after they had run out of story. Dangling questions never to be answered. Ending at 6 seasons was sold as not running it too long when in truth they had nothing left to tell by season 4 (and I'm being generous there) Enjoy reading your well thought out posts on here as well.

  • March 25, 2012, 6:54 a.m. CST

    re: "What the hell is Elba saying there at the end?"

    by buggerbugger

    Someone on youtube thinks he's yelling, "Haaaandjooooob!" Having rewatched the footage, I think I concur with that.

  • March 25, 2012, 7:06 a.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    Thanks. I'm glad you can read my post past the terrible grammar that so often inflict them. And the latinization. I think LOST should had been a one season, two season max show. And if the point was to left stuff unanwserable, to retain the mystery to the end, a shorter show would had been preferable. But the show's sucess ruined that, if ever that was the intention. A case of sucess being it's worst enemy. I don't like this Lindelof guy. At least he doesn't seem to be as obnoxious as Orci. But then again, Lindelof doesn't post in here, the coward! But he sure is a shill, as you put it. Whatever writing talent he might once had, it's now complelty eclipsed by his studio stooge shenigans.

  • That the original writer is also the ghostwriter of the Lindelof's rewrites.

  • March 25, 2012, 7:09 a.m. CST

    This will probably end similarly to 'AVP', won't it?

    by buggerbugger

    With the Space Jockey strapped into his chair, writhing in pain as something inside him starts biting through his innards. Suddenly, his chest starts bulging outward, as if being struck from within. And then CRAAAAACK as something punches through his chestplate! Cut to black, chestburster remaining unseen. And then we, as viewers, can watch 'Alien' to find out (for the 'first' time) what the hell smashed its way out of the big guy.

  • March 25, 2012, 7:14 a.m. CST

    Idris Elba

    by stonefish

    kill... EVERYTHING

  • March 25, 2012, 7:22 a.m. CST

    The search for our beginning........

    by dynamicb

    That tag-line is cheesy as shit! Makes me nuts everytime I watch these spots.

  • March 25, 2012, 7:26 a.m. CST

    We are made of stars

    by AsimovLives

    Yes, literally, we are made of stars. All the atoms in your body once resided inside at the core of a star, where they were made. So, yeah, we are made of star stuff. Literally, we are made of stardust. And not just us but everything in our planet, and all the planets in our solar system. You can call cousin to Jupiter.

  • March 25, 2012, 7:33 a.m. CST

    Re Lindelof

    by unparanoid_android

    Talentless hack. There must be thousands like him running around LA working as waiters, and he won the lottery. But Ridley only brings in writers to develop HIS ideas. Like when he brought in Hampton Fancher, most of the script was still David Peoples', and Fancher was working on Ridley's ideas - not his own. I am optmistic the same has happened on Prometheus - the script is still essentially Jon Spaits script.

  • March 25, 2012, 7:34 a.m. CST


    by unparanoid_android

    he brought in Peoples to develop Fancher's script. It's early morning here.

  • March 25, 2012, 8:05 a.m. CST


    by emeraldboy

    i thought we are all made of blood and guts...

  • March 25, 2012, 8:06 a.m. CST

    =Prometheus has landed.=

    by KilliK

    Why the fuck does this line sounds like it has was taken from Starcraft.?

  • March 25, 2012, 8:07 a.m. CST

    =But Ridley only brings in writers to develop HIS ideas=

    by KilliK

    in thsi case his idea about time-traveling.

  • you nailed it.

  • March 25, 2012, 8:14 a.m. CST

    you guys are being dumb about the Lindeloff concerns

    by alexander

    The Darkest Hour anyone? You also have to think about the visual story telling... you half wits throwing around hack have no idea what Lindelofs input was or wasnt into the visual storytelling or concepts in Lost, your criticism is hackish

  • And hence the "DNA" of alien in this film cause it's HIS DNA that produces the xenomorph!

  • The 'alien' is about the size of a dog in comparison to the jockeys.

  • March 25, 2012, 8:34 a.m. CST

    Film to beat this year

    by RocketFuckingMan


  • They've always been the real aliens.

  • March 25, 2012, 8:36 a.m. CST


    by RocketFuckingMan

    So are we going to see the Alien that bursts out of the Jockey guts? Thats the grand finale I bets

  • March 25, 2012, 8:50 a.m. CST

    Gentile: pushing a pencil through paper..

    by UltraTron

    I couldn't find a sheet of paper and a pencil in my own house. On a spaceship forget it. I would have sketched a little illustration on my iPad mirrored to the wall screens all over my house. It's just 2012 and already that would be more convenient and illustrate my point more efficiently than your crude paper. I fully expect things to go all tony stark hologram work-station by the time we get to Prometheus level. Fuck it I'm being optimistic and saying that there will be a space program again someday.

  • March 25, 2012, 8:53 a.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    the atoms that make the blood and guts, man. Those were forged in the core of a star. and consider this: our sun will end it's shinny phase it's living now and become a red giant when it's core is made of iron, which is an atom so dense that it can't be broken into another atom. So, think about thbis: blood is red because of the oxidized iron we have in it. the very same material that makes the death of a star. think about it.

  • ofc. the only difference here is that Ridley's visual style in Prometheus is quite different from the ones in Blade Runner and Alien and a lot closer to PWSA's videogame style. Not that this is bad but lets not pretend that what Ridley does visually in Prometheus is original and not inspired from the modern takes of other directors on his original works.

  • March 25, 2012, 8:59 a.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    i don 't get you. you were such a gusher for JOHN CARTER sight unseen and now you act like such a hater for PROMETHEUS sight unseen. I don't get it! you have it all reversed. i mean, my your own JOHN CARTER gushing logic, you should be supporting the shit out of PROMETHEUS to ensure the survival of SF as big budget blockbuster geek friendly movie. So, why the complete 180 degree turn from your own philosophy, mate?

  • can't see where Scott is taking cues from some cheap copy of the thing he himself made in the first place. if anything, scott is backstepping to his own earlier stuff.

  • March 25, 2012, 9:03 a.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    isn't there an hack you do not love?

  • March 25, 2012, 9:15 a.m. CST

    @ultratron you missed the point

    by KilliK

    scenes like the one with the paper and the pencil are used to convey a sense of urgency. A briefing scene with hitech displays,holograms,digital illustrations and all that,dont succeed to crate this sense of urgency because all this stuff is not made real-time,someone has to create the presentation beforehand. Think the briefing scene in the Sulako.Gorman says that they had to leave in a hurry.Imagine if he start describing their missing using holograms and kinect-like interaction,instead of talking to the soldiers.Would you get the same feeling of a pressing matter?

  • March 25, 2012, 9:17 a.m. CST

    Asimov-great post on Lindelof

    by SK229

    I never even noticed it before, but your assessment in those two situations is right on the money. Love that Theron said that. It proves his fakeass studio shill bullshit enthusaism and dumbing down of everything does not go unnoticed by the powers that be and also shows that him, orci and kurtzman, and jj all work off the assumption that the audience is too dumb to understand anything else. Lets hope people like Nolan and Blomkamp stay far the fuck away from them.

  • March 25, 2012, 9:20 a.m. CST


    by KilliK

  • March 25, 2012, 9:22 a.m. CST

    @asi spare me.

    by KilliK

    I was a gusher about JC purely for political reasons,as you have already mentioned.i couldnt give a fuck about the movie itself. As for Prometheus,i am criticizing the things i have seen in the trailers.i havent said anything yet about the general quality of the movie because simply i havent seen it yet.

  • March 25, 2012, 9:24 a.m. CST

    =Scott is going back to the visual style HE HIMSELF CREATED.=

    by KilliK

    well if he is going back to his original visual style,i DONT SEE IT. i mean look at this: and tell me if you see the EXACT same style in his movie. i dont.

  • dude 69 is not recent is prehistoric times for us the younglings.heh.

  • March 25, 2012, 9:27 a.m. CST


    by KilliK

    do you have any link with that interview with Theron and Lindelof where she tells him that she knows how to sell a movie? i really want to see it and enjoy it.

  • March 25, 2012, 9:42 a.m. CST

    killik: I didn't miss the point. I get it. I also get

    by UltraTron

    that I hated that scene in Event Horizon because of the smoking wanna-be truckers from alien that were all sitting around smoking in a pure oxygen spaceship environment. Fine in Alien. Rip-off in Event Horizon. Not an homage. Just cheap rip-off. And terrible exposition all the way. Suddenly you realize the whole crew of a space-ship are all idiots with no knowledge of fundamental physics principles. Also I think if I had a point it's that in a rush- today I would be able to load my iPad procreate app and sketch whatever I wanted mirrored on several massive projection screens surrounding me before I could find a pen and paper. What do you think they'll have in 2047? So no visionary fore-thought was put into that scene. Kubrick had widescreen flat-panel hd tvs in the backs of every seat on the space plane.

  • those tubes with wires stuck on your fingers. The tricorder screen in way too small for human eyes that arn't augmented with bionics.

  • March 25, 2012, 9:59 a.m. CST

    Also astronauts that smoke? Do they at least have 20/20 vision.

    by UltraTron

    I'll believe space truckers smoke but these guys are supposed to be the right stuff.

  • March 25, 2012, 10:06 a.m. CST

    =Fine in Alien. Rip-off in Event Horizon.=

    by KilliK

    a case of a moronic fanboy who uses double standards.applaud him.

  • March 25, 2012, 10:06 a.m. CST

    Looks Really Good!

    by Real Deal

    And not from the AVP stuff. An alien species using another is a SF as old as the hills. And not just from AVP.This looks like a much more intelligent film in contrast to what's come from the AVP universe or even just the Alien franchise in a long time.

  • March 25, 2012, 10:08 a.m. CST

    =You should be thinking about the story instead of anachronisms=

    by KilliK

    360 years later and you are still wearing a necktie.while using your hitech this is an anachronism.

  • March 25, 2012, 10:11 a.m. CST

    Re : killik

    by Real Deal

    " well if he is going back to his original visual style,i DONT SEE IT. " Funny but I see quite a bit similar. The original designs by Geiger for the Alien ship stuff. The human space ship stuff seems very similar in the interior design. Don't why you don't see it.

  • March 25, 2012, 10:12 a.m. CST

    Where the AVP movies failed...

    by Edward Scarito

    IMO the main problem(s) with the AVP movies---beside the poor choice of directors--was: The humans. Most viewers want to see colonial marines or similar archtypes fighting both species. Normal everymen (or woman-Sanaa Lathan) in these situations are boring. I wanted to see our toughest vs. their toughest so to speak, not a bunch of scientists or drillers, or half assed corporate body guards.

  • March 25, 2012, 10:16 a.m. CST

    Re : killik

    by Real Deal

    " dude 69 is not recent is prehistoric times for us the younglings.heh. " Still it was landing on the Moon! Something that should interest SF fans of any age. You'd think you know a thing or two about it!

  • All the lindelof is a hack jibes represent to me is folks being ignorant and clearly not having watched alot of Lost properly; or rather at least researched what his involvement and creative hand in stuff like Lost was, in a collaborative medium of writers and storytellers. It's just a simple, lame, willfully naive assesment based on a xenophobic mistrust with the JJ-Kurzman-Orci-Bay circle, (and don't get me wrong Asi the transformers movies just have awful awful scripts, only T2 sits comfortably with me as a nice remake of Team America), but its not accurate or deserving anymore than calling Jon Spaits out because The Darkest Hour sucked, full stop. Therefore Jon Spaits is a hack, full stop.... Jon Spiats will inevitably ruin Prometheus with his hack hand etc... it's total wank to me

  • and for the same reasons you have said. those animations or holograms can only exist if somebody did a pre-amination before, so it lacks spontaniety. they might look cool (which i rarely find so), but they are a bit phoney. this even in movies i like.

  • March 25, 2012, 10:24 a.m. CST

    =You'd think you know a thing or two about it! =

    by KilliK

    i know that according to the conspiracy theorists,it never happened.OOPS. :P

  • March 25, 2012, 10:26 a.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    so, you gushed over JC because of mere politcal reasons. you turned out to be our own Pericles. pretty fitting, i should say, considering where you came from.

  • its just sad and counter productive... oh look Lindelof fucks up socially at a marketing front... clearly he has not artistic creative talent or integrity... more wankish pearls of wisdom to come from Asi and his followers just like this I'm sure... you hacks lol

  • March 25, 2012, 10:30 a.m. CST

    The Thing That I Find As A Long Time Lover Of SF Reprehensible

    by Real Deal

    Is that we've got some truly great SF movies coming down the pike after a bit of a lull ( something we don't get to see too often ) and cutisie wootsie fan boys want to shit all over them so they can look clever. You know who you are and shame on you.

  • March 25, 2012, 10:30 a.m. CST

    Sir Ridley can fuck my eyeballs anytime he wants....

    by conspiracy

    the man has earned that right as he delivers the goods more often than not. There opening night...even going to drive down to Los Angeles so I can see it in a proper theater.

  • March 25, 2012, 10:31 a.m. CST

    killik, the link is below

    by AsimovLives it's a typical case of Damon Lindolf trying to play smart, but Theron steals the show with her one phrase reply.

  • March 25, 2012, 10:32 a.m. CST

    Re : killik

    by Real Deal

    " i know that according to the conspiracy theorists,it never happened.OOPS. :P " If that's all you know you need to pick up a book or something. Please tell me you're kidding and don't really believe that.

  • March 25, 2012, 10:34 a.m. CST

    JJ Abrams and Andrew Stanton sit crying in a room

    by kwisatzhaderach

    as Ridley Scott schools them in sci-fi.

  • March 25, 2012, 10:35 a.m. CST

    =Funny but I see quite a bit similar. =

    by KilliK

    really? compare the door entrance in 0.13 in the P trailer and tell me why it is visually similar with the door entrance from A,in this pic: Because frankly the only similarity i see is the P-shaped line that separates the two panels of the doors.

  • March 25, 2012, 10:38 a.m. CST

    Re : killik

    by Real Deal

    Here's an example : " For something a little more revealing when it comes to Prometheus, the site AlienPrequelNews has landed some nice photos from the set in Pinewood Studios, where shooting has been completed. The end of shooting there means that sets and props are being torn down, which allowed for some new looks at the design of the movie. I think you’ll agree when you see them — this very much looks like Alien. Particularly the last few pictures, which instantly bring to mind the area housing the Space Jockey in the original film. It’ll be interesting to see how the design of the classic from 1979 will translate to a movie shot in 2011, but reports on the footage shown at Comic-Con say that it’ll replicate the look and feel of the original wonderfully. This is one of the elements I’m most excited for, so any look we can get at it feels cool. If it doesn’t spoil anything, that is. "

  • March 25, 2012, 10:39 a.m. CST

    @real deal relax,i am kidding.

    by KilliK

    thus my emoticon.

  • maybe like 150/200 years or so, enough time to make space travel have this believable look of banality and mundanity to it. EVENT HORIZONT's problem is that the movie is set at a specific date and it's not too far into the future,just afew decades away. and gtivne how lowly spac exploration is progressing, specially concerning human space exploration, making the crew of the ship of EVENT HORIZONT another case of space truckers is more a case of blatant rip off then of any true concenr about believability of the movie's own universe. I'm sorry, but space travel done in decades from now will stillbe the province of highly trained astronauts, who are either highly trained scientists or highly trained militarymen with advanced science degrees. personally, i don't think blue collars will ever go to space. i don't believe we will ever have space truckers. space will always be the province of astronauts or robots.

  • March 25, 2012, 10:40 a.m. CST

    @asimovlives thanx for the link man

    by KilliK

    love Theron's reply.

  • March 25, 2012, 10:40 a.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    is there an hack you don't like and support?

  • March 25, 2012, 10:43 a.m. CST

    @real deal spare me with the Space Jokey design.

    by KilliK

    this is the only design that you cant change because it is very can update it slightly but that's all. I am talking about other things like the Prometheus ship,the space suits,the cast itself.i am waiting to explain to me why the doors between P and A are visually similar. well?

  • outside of all the box office talk, John Carter deserved most of the criticism it got because it's a weak movie made by a very misguided director and a studio who didn't knew what the fuck they were doing. just because the movie is SF doesn't mean it should be spared criticism. Quite the contrary, in fact. I hold Sf to high standards, and it's important that fans do so, or else we would still be having those cheap sf movies of old wth cardboard sets, non-existing budgets, uninterested producers and studios only there for a cheap buck, 5th rate actors and writers and directors making them. all this talk of loyalty to the genre is nice and dandy, bjut you do a great disservice to the genre if you do that by supporting the weaker efforts.

  • March 25, 2012, 10:48 a.m. CST

    Re : asimovlives

    by Real Deal

    Event Horizon had a lot more problems than that. It was a neat idea still born. They turned what might have been a good movie into a horror / date film. Cheap scare shots, characters doing the typical dumb things to get themselves killed ( that they do in a lot of bad horror films ), They had to over do the effects on a human body of a vacuum yet again, and their warp drive sends them to Hell ( " Do you see? " ). Geez! I loved the look of the film. The sets and the ships were great. The execution of the film not so much.

  • so your whole comparison has started in the wrong base.

  • it's not the first time i have been disapointed by a ridley Scott film, even though he's one of my top favorite director alive. but so far i have had no reasons to not feel a bit optimistic about this movie. if anything else, the marketing has been brillant. disney could learn a thing or a hundred about how to market a movie.

  • March 25, 2012, 10:50 a.m. CST

    Re : asimovlives

    by Real Deal

    " personally, i don't think blue collars will ever go to space. i don't believe we will ever have space truckers. space will always be the province of astronauts or robots. " I do think it will get to a point where it will be less specialized. Everything always does.

  • March 25, 2012, 10:52 a.m. CST

    =and their warp drive sends them to Hell=

    by KilliK

    i love that concept.just love is a pity that they fucked up the DOOM movie because they didnt use that concept,which even the game had already had.

  • March 25, 2012, 10:53 a.m. CST

    real deal

    by AsimovLives

    i agree that EVENT HORIZONT is a deeply flawed movie... to put it nicely. there is a good movie trying to get out, but it's not allowed to, thanks to the usual cluelessness of PWC Anderson. It's a common constant thing in all of Anderson's career: he can create this interesting and cool premises, but he always fuck ups the delivery, and he always put this dumb idiotic stuff that always end up fucking up all the good promises the movie might had at the begining. he always does that. always.

  • March 25, 2012, 10:56 a.m. CST


    by KilliK

    you fanboys dont even know what you are talking about. asimov doesnt even remeber that the space crew in EH was a rescue team not space truckers like in Alien.rofl. AND DONT FORGET: the studio fucking butchered the movie in the editing is a miracle that we even got the movie as it is a pity that most of the deleted scenes have been destroyed for good and we will never get a proper DC cut.

  • March 25, 2012, 10:56 a.m. CST

    Re : asimovlives Ahem!

    by Real Deal

    I'm not just talking about JC. If you spend some time reading talkbacks here. ( not something I recomend for an excersize in higher thought ) you can see almost every SF project being attacked by people who haven't seen the movie ( and who probabaly care more about how clever they look here than the movie ). Some don't even like Science Fiction. They could care less and that's why they pick on it.

  • March 25, 2012, 10:58 a.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    yes they were rescuers, but the whole vibe of those rescuers were of blue collar/space truckers type. a clear rip off of what ALIEN had done before, and much better. And as a final joke, they casted Joely Richardson, a woman born to play queens due to her natural elegance and classic beauty, as a space trucker type. yeah, right!

  • March 25, 2012, 10:59 a.m. CST

    The space jockey rooms look way different

    by NotEnoughBiehn

    as do the chairs. Different patterns, ribbing, contours, textures. This is either intentional or accidental

  • March 25, 2012, 11:01 a.m. CST

    =vibe of those rescuers were of blue collar/space truckers type=

    by KilliK

    what does that even mean? people smoking and talking are what ORDINARY people do. you mean scientists dont smoke and exchange friendly words with their colleagues when doing experiments or some shit? what are you saying?

  • March 25, 2012, 11:01 a.m. CST

    Re : asimovlives

    by Real Deal

    I'm pretty sure Mr. Scott ( who is also one of my favorite directors ) will do this one right. It's his first SF movie in years. Also watching his show on the science channel " Profits of Science Fiction " you can see the guy has a really good uderstanding of what SF is all about. As to his movies good or bad even when he gets things off ( Robin Hood ) it's still entertaining.

  • March 25, 2012, 11:02 a.m. CST

    Ok, someone tell me how JC/PoM has anything to do with science.

    by NotEnoughBiehn

    A different planet and airships are not science, they're props.

  • that's why he wants to shoehorn the idea that Deckard is a replicant instead of human.That's why he wants to explain the origin of the Aliens and the Jockeys? yeah,he understands scifi alright...

  • though she has enough energy for 4 talkbackers, ence you might think the genre is coming under heavy attack. she sure is a one man army. or rather, a one woman army.

  • March 25, 2012, 11:05 a.m. CST

    Re : notenoughbiehn

    by Real Deal

    Not sure where you are coming from on this but no one's saying JC is great science. It tends to fall into that genre because it was a form of SF of the time when it was written ( 1912 ).

  • And, I'm sorry, Scott, or no Scott, prequels NEVER work and ALWAYS ruin the original source material. We didn't need to know the origin of the Space Jockey, just like we didn't need to know the origin of Darth Vader or Puss In Boots. I mean, in Shrek 2, Puss is in the villains' bar and he's a notorious ogre-killer. What the...? I didnt get any of that in Puss In Boots. Maybe by part 3 theyll find a way to shoehorn an explanation for that one. Take ROTPOTA, for example. Was Charlton Heston's crew already in space when the virus broke out? Nothing ever ties in, and when it does, it comes off as forced. I think that's why Scott doesn't want to call this a "prequel", but, we all know that's EXACTLY what it is. What scares me is the current interview with Lindelof currently on, where he's talking about possible sequels to Prometheus? Huh?

  • March 25, 2012, 11:06 a.m. CST

    Re : asimovlives

    by Real Deal

    How about all the one liners with no topic who fall silent when you ask if they've seen the film?

  • March 25, 2012, 11:08 a.m. CST

    @bat725 BINGO !!!

    by KilliK

    And Lindelof is talking about sequels? i knew it,i fucking knew it. do you have a link with that interview of his?

  • March 25, 2012, 11:09 a.m. CST

    Re : killik

    by Real Deal

    " that's why he wants to shoehorn the idea that Deckard is a replicant instead of human.That's why he wants to explain the origin of the Aliens and the Jockeys? yeah,he understands scifi alright... " And your point......?

  • the fucking movie is dumb beyond belief. then only intleligence went to the design of the movie, and evee then everything is all on the nose. ships in the shape of churches, engine rooms with pies so people can met pointy endings, the lot! the science in the movie is beyond risible, even though it pretends to play as somewhat hard SF. funny thing in where they dcided to underplay is the actual conditions of the planet Neptune, where in fact it has the fastest winds of the whole solar system, winds which can reach speed of sound. Real neptune makes all the shit that happens outside the ships look like a nice calm evening on earth. and the least said about the movie turning the only scientist in the movie into an evil fuck the better, because i wanted to flay Anderson alive for that shit! fucking cunt-ass fuck!!

  • March 25, 2012, 11:09 a.m. CST

    =And your point......? =

    by KilliK

    that he doesnt seem to understand what scifi is about.

  • March 25, 2012, 11:10 a.m. CST

    Re : asimovlives

    by Real Deal

    We agree on something 100 % ! Yea!

  • March 25, 2012, 11:11 a.m. CST

    A form of sci fi?

    by NotEnoughBiehn

    Sci-fi either revolves around a scientific concept or device or it doesn't, and then it's not sci-fi. A civil war vet being magically transported to another planet has nothing to do with science. The planet is a backdrop. The airships are props that could be any mode of transport. There was no evidence or grounds for believeing in teleportation, six limbed green men or white apes in 1912. Point is, the failure of JC has no impact on science fiction, because it isn't. The mass audience are not so stupid that they can't tell the difference.

  • March 25, 2012, 11:12 a.m. CST

    Jesus i asked two specific questions and still no reply.

    by KilliK

    instead they keep trashing or defending movies without proper explanation.yeah i am talking about your asimov and real deal with your double standards.

  • March 25, 2012, 11:12 a.m. CST

    Re : bat725

    by Real Deal

    Well Scott has indicated that it's not a straight forward prequel.

  • March 25, 2012, 11:13 a.m. CST

    real deal

    by AsimovLives

    so far i have enjoyed PROPHETS OF SCIENCE FICTION quite a lot. Despirte the fact that occasionally Roerto Orci pollutes the show with his presence and his inane platitudes. who the fuck thinks this clown is some expert of SF, anyway? ROBIN HOOD... well, let me just say this: the first part is a pretty damn good movie. All the sequences in France are quite brillant. and for once, Richard Lionheart is portaited accurantly in film. Only this and ROBIN AND MARION have done real history service in regard who how Lionheart really was, instead of he is usually portaited, in that victorian charicature of nobility whichy he wasn't.

  • March 25, 2012, 11:13 a.m. CST

    Re : killik

    by Real Deal

    " instead they keep trashing or defending movies without proper explanation.yeah i am talking about your asimov and real deal with your double standards. " Specify.

  • March 25, 2012, 11:13 a.m. CST

    Prometheus does not lead directly into Alien

    by NotEnoughBiehn

    This has been said repeatedly. A "sequel" to Prometheus will be a sequel to Prometheus, not an Alien reboot or whatever people are thinking.

  • March 25, 2012, 11:15 a.m. CST

    @real deal

    by KilliK

    the door in the P teaser at 0.13 and the door in the A movie,here in this pic: explain to me why they are visually similar since you claim that the visual styles in both movies are the same.

  • March 25, 2012, 11:16 a.m. CST

    Re : asimovlives

    by Real Deal

    Like I've said it was entertaining. I even bought it on Bluray. But yes they did take some liberties with the story. I loved Gladiator much better however.

  • ... when Sam Neill makes a very simplified explanation of how space-time bending works, still those thickhead rescuers still cannot compreend, to the point one of the crew (and the resident bad guy comedy relief) even complains Neill was not even talking in english. it's not just that in Event Horizont those guys are blue collar truckers they are dumb blue collar trucker idiots. i don't know what i should be more pissed off at, the notion that science iliterate people could work in space, or that the writer-director thinks audiences are that stupid! EVENT HORIZONT is a movie wholesome made of fail!

  • March 25, 2012, 11:18 a.m. CST

    Re : killik

    by Real Deal

    Well it is a different time period. Also doors right now don't look the same ( even on space craft ). Also it's not just me who thinks it looks the same if you read the article I linked to.

  • March 25, 2012, 11:24 a.m. CST

    Scott said he didn't want to do "grunge" look again

    by NotEnoughBiehn

    So who cares whether Pro looks like Alien or not? And the level of visual quality is far above what Anderson has ever done.

  • March 25, 2012, 11:27 a.m. CST

    real deal

    by AsimovLives

    Scott's ROBIN HOOD is a strange movie.i could had watched a whole movie that had that french setting, and with the movie ending with Robin and his merry men returning to england and seeing how John had fucked up and initializing his resistance to unjust law. instead we had this ridiculous magna carta stuff that not only it plays lose with history, it doesn't even resenble any of it at all. And seeing Lady Marion pulling ox carts and sowing the fields herself made me want to fall from my chair laughing! I know that Ridley Scott is proud of his blue collar origins and he always showed a great disdain for aristocrats that do nothing, but jezzz!!! I lament that the original script, called NOTINGHAM, wa snot filmed, as it was basically a medieval crime procedual story, where the hero was the Sherriff of Notingham, who was investigating a murder mystery and he soon relaises that this robin hood outlaw, prick that he is, is not the real culprit and he's being used as a scapegoat for a much more sinister plan. the story was then a case of a race agaoisnt the clock as the sherriff had to find the real culprit while a major castle siege was going on. aparently, the writer of the original script research a lot about medieval crime investigation, basically turning the sherriff into another Cadfael.

  • March 25, 2012, 11:41 a.m. CST

    At the end Idris says "HEADS UP!!!!!"

    by Fish Tank


  • March 25, 2012, 11:47 a.m. CST


    by Edward Scarito

    I also remember reading that at one point Russell Crowe was going to play both Robin Hood AND Nottingham. That would have been an interesting take. Better than "Magna Carta Begins", which we got instead.

  • I can dynamesh an idea as fast as I can talk to your primitive ass. I get that you understand folded paper I do.

  • March 25, 2012, 11:48 a.m. CST

    Fine for dumb audiences but the people actually making your

    by UltraTron

    world and it's technologies know better.

  • March 25, 2012, 11:51 a.m. CST

    Carlo gets it.

    by UltraTron

  • two words: prove it.

  • March 25, 2012, 12:08 p.m. CST

    The american audience is not is uneducated.

    by KilliK

    a situation that the System wants to keep it this way for its own interest.

  • March 25, 2012, 12:09 p.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    Carlo is an italian name. i'm portuguese, thus my name in my language is Carlos. Just like in spanish. Sorry to be anoyingly pedantic about it, but i actually am quite proudful of my name. i wouldn't want any other.

  • that similar as you claimed.thank you for accepting my point.

  • March 25, 2012, 12:29 p.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    i don't think audiences are stupid. but untalented filmmakers like to think they are, so to make their shit easier. i have been in the USA before, it was one year and one month before 9/11. i visited New york City and saw a bit of the surrounding places, to Atlantic City, and saw the Pensilvania/New Jersey border. I realy liked visiting USA. I liked the people, i found them generally to be nice people. In my last two days there i wear a T-shirt withthe flag and name of my country, and only one a person asked me hwere i was from, due to my accent. i pointed to my t.shirt, but i'm not sure if the dude understood my reply, but i didn't pressed the issue. Are USA people in general ignorant of thing sbeyond their own country? Well, this type of ignranc eis not just american, you cna see signs of this everywhere. it's specially the case with countries which are pretty self-enclosed on tyheir own culture. USA is not a case alone, Russia, Brasil, Spain and France are like that too. Excluding movies, they import very few music or Tv from other countries. My own country is an aversion. We are very internationalists. Our own native culture is very strong, but we have references and influences from a lot of foreigner sources. It used to be mostly france and britain, now it's heavily from the USA. But i think the ignorance is msotly explained by just looking at the news programs. if you watche a portuguese news program, you would see that, besides sports, about half the stuff that's snhown is international news. when i was in USA, i stayed with a family who are finds of my family, portuguese immigrants who went there in the 60s. i saw an american news program, and all of it was just american news. two weeks there and i never saw an international news. for me that's weird beyond description. so, how can we blame the average american from knowing so little about abroad and just assuming everything is either a continuation of USA or a live action version of national clichés? there's some guys in here who in jest call me a goat herder because i'm portuguese. they say it in jest, but in their minds they believe my country to be out of the middle ages, when in fact it's a developed country not too different from the rest of the western europe. in fact, one thing that puzzled me about my vist to the USA was how low tech your country is compared to europe. your cities actually look older then ours!

  • March 25, 2012, 12:30 p.m. CST


    by KilliK

    =killik, the blue collar/space trucker bulslhit in the rescue team in EVENT HORIZONT comes so thick that... ... when Sam Neill makes a very simplified explanation of how space-time bending works, still those thickhead rescuers still cannot compreend, to the point one of the crew (and the resident bad guy comedy relief) even complains Neill was not even talking in english.= it as an exposition scene for the average moviegoer who doesnt know anything about wormholes and space warping.and one of the characters made a (cliche) joke which most of these moviegoers definitely related to.i find it decent script writing. Your problem Asi is that you consider everyone else as well-educated as you.But this is not the reality,like LISAB says the average movie audience is generally pretty stupid.And the movie producers and creators have to take this into consideration when they make expensive movies which involve science,rules and all that. That's why your favorite director Nolan had a walking exposition narrator in the character of JUNO,he knows how fucking stupid the audience is. = it's not just that in Event Horizont those guys are blue collar truckers they are dumb blue collar trucker idiots. i don't know what i should be more pissed off at, the notion that science iliterate people could work in space, or that the writer-director thinks audiences are that stupid! EVENT HORIZONT is a movie wholesome made of fail! = So that makes Dallas a dumb blue collar trucker idiot too? because there is a whole scene between him and Ripley,where he specifically states that he has nothing to do with the science,that he leaves all the science stuff to Ash because he is the science officer and that his only job it to get the ship back to Earth. i mean for someone who command a starship of 'forty-two million in adjusted dollars minus payload' and who has a contract which specifically states 'any systematized transmission indicating a possible intelligent origin must be investigated',he sure as fuck didnt know a lot about extra-terrestrial organisms and whether an alien organism which attached itself on the head of one of his crew mates,is dangerous or not.

  • March 25, 2012, 12:33 p.m. CST

    @lisab i agree with you.

    by KilliK

  • and i'm not just talking about the comedy movies where everythijg is played by rule of funny. no, i'm even talking about the supposed serious movies, or those that play seriously, even with simple commercial intentions. movies like FIRST KNIGHT. a good way to push my berserk button is to mention that fucking movie to me. i mean, is it really that hard to make medieval europe look actually medieval in a holywood movie?

  • March 25, 2012, 12:36 p.m. CST

    @mystrokapp: Because the MPAA doesn't allow things like that...

    by godoffireinhell

    When THE KING'S SPEECH faced the possibility of going out in a PG-13 version, the MPAA decided that the studio would first have to withdraw any and all R-rated prints of the film in order to avoid confusion and the horrible possibility of some unprepared families walking accidentally into the wrong cut of the film. AFAIK the PG-13 version was never released because of that.

  • March 25, 2012, 12:40 p.m. CST

    Lack of originality

    by enzoc

    Is something everybody on this site complains about, like hunger games is battle royale (which it's not) avatar is pocahantas/fern gully (while similar it's still not). It's kind of annoying, every story has been told in one way or another before. Just because some concepts can be compared to a lesser film doesn't mean you should completely write off a film. Yes the idea of aliens influencing ancient cultures was used in stargate and avp but the only reason it's been used so much is that it is actually a possibility. And the visual style is clearly more "Alien" than any thing I've seen since alien came out so I don't get that argument.

  • March 25, 2012, 12:45 p.m. CST

    It takes will and effort to be informed

    by NotEnoughBiehn

    Most people just want to know enough to make money to support themselves, find a mate, be happy. It also takes the will to live with the discomfort that knowledge often brings. At least in America, people still want to believe in the dream, that life is basically good, that mankind is basically good, that there is a purpose to it all. Some things can only be known by looking into the abyss, and I believe most people do not want to do that.

  • March 25, 2012, 12:47 p.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    and yet Dallas knows what molecular acid is. not bad for a trucker boy! no, Dallas leaves the science stuff to Ash because Dallas is a corporate team player and a man with a remarkable lack of questioning and critical spirit. and constantly throughout the movie he shows poor judgement. he's not ignorant, he's a slob. no, i don't assume people know the same shit i know. but i also don't asume people are basic ignorant or basic stupid. the simplified explanation that the scietist gave in EVENT HORIZONT was simple enough, but then they had characters not understanding that and then dumbing it even more down to impossible levels of stupidity. that's not meknowing this shit, this is me being insulted by a filmmaker who thinks me and everybody else are retards. Made worst by the fact that in the movie's own universe that shit would look stupid. basic relativistic would be the first thing any astronaut wananbe, evne a space trucker, would had to learn after newtonian mechanics. lots of shit is dependent in basic relativistic knowledges when you go to space. in-universe it's stupid that everybody would be ifnorant of that, including the ship's more learned crew members like the captain or the communication or medical/science officer. And you now what? what's exaxctly wrong with exposition? since when exposition is a bad thing in a story? to think exposition is bad is like saying using shadows in cinematogrpahy is bad. exposition is just a narration device, nothing more. it can be well used or badly iused, LIKE ANYTHING ELSE. If Robert McKee have a problem with exposition, he can go get fucked up in his fucking ass, his work is not gospel, it's not ogd's own words carved in stone, so he can go fuck off with his absolutisms in film narration. Me, i like when a movie teaches me something i didn't knew before. entertaiment and education can and should go hand in hand. knowing is fun. and the least said about the last act of that fucking Event Horizont movie the better.

  • March 25, 2012, 12:48 p.m. CST

    Event Horizon, you had me until dimension of pure evil.

    by adeceasedfan

    Cue eye roll.

  • Must be one of the dumbest things ive read, seriously you have to be blind, or mistaking the fact that there's a waterfall/outside environments with The visual style being different. It's more like the original trilogy vs. The cgi-enhanced original trilogy. Phantom menace used similar environments and still looked completely outta whack visually with the original trilogy. Prometheus looks like the same universe but with different new environments, shot in hi-def with maybe a bit of blade runner thrown in there. Does it have something all new to itself? Yes it definitely has it's own vibe but not in a bad way at all. It looks like serious scifi which ridley Scott has excelled at every time hes attempted it.

  • 2012 seems to be split in half: Jan - May: Ghost Rider, Underworld, John Carter, Avengers = 'TARD! June to Dec: Prometheus, TDKR, Skyfall, The Hobbit = WIN! There are a few unoffensive offering perfectly crafted and worth a few hours of my time: The Hunger Games, The Amazing Spider - Man. And there is are movies of such overwhelming Clownshoe-ery they need health warnings: Battleshit, Wrath of the TITs. People that pump fists in the air and shout 'fuck yeah!' when they experience battle shit, avengers, wrath of the tits, etc; will be tranquilised and tagged before being returned to their enclosures.

  • March 25, 2012, 1:07 p.m. CST

    I hear ya Carl.

    by UltraTron

    killik: Carl and I were offended by Event Horozon's stupidity back in the 90s. Fuck people. I don't want to have to listen to some bullshit because people are stupid. I can forgive when Avatar expouseses something because it was cutting through an actual 7 story square format 3D IMAX presentation. I haven't seen true IMAX format 3D since Avatar.

  • March 25, 2012, 1:09 p.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    allow me to share your complete disdain for BATTLESHIT and WHATEVER OF THE TITANS. Funny enough, both star Liam Neeson's paycheck.

  • March 25, 2012, 1:11 p.m. CST

    TDKR Marketing schleppers!

    by cuntface

    The studios don't have to waste their time and money viral marketing TDKR. Why bother when all the nerds are talking about it here without doing anything? Bollocks viral campaigns make no dent on the masses (which TDKR is aiming at) anyway. All they need to do is drop another trailer just before release. There'll be some prime-time chat shows and hey-presto! Viral marketing - my arse!

  • March 25, 2012, 1:22 p.m. CST

    the Signal

    by Bryan

    I don't know if anyone mentioned this yet, but I bet the signal that they come across in the original Alien is actually from the prometheus ship

  • March 25, 2012, 1:22 p.m. CST

    Killik is an idiot

    by Koyaanisqatsi

    Those doors aren't similar? Here are the facts: both doors have a) windows in the exact same place, b) the same basic octagonal shape for the door frames, c) nearly identical white-based color schemes, and d) the same p-shaped locking mechanism. That's not enough similarity for you? You find it totally unbelievable that one door could lead to the other? And you've got eyes? That work? Are you retarded? You idiocy amuses me.

  • March 25, 2012, 1:24 p.m. CST


    by alexander

  • March 25, 2012, 1:26 p.m. CST


    by Koyaanisqatsi

    Almost an entire post without a typo!

  • if not many people, a clusterfuck of too many cooks, so to speak

  • March 25, 2012, 1:30 p.m. CST

    XMEN3 is pants!

    by AsimovLives

    What happens when an uninterested studio alienates the very guy responsible for the sucess of their golden egg franchise and hired an uninterested hack instead? XMEN3 happens, that's what!

  • March 25, 2012, 1:31 p.m. CST

    and of course, P Anderson, I don't hate the guy but...

    by alexander

    I'll only stick up for him when it comes to Deathrace. I enjoyed Mortal Kombat when I was a kid... but what he did with resident evil snapped me out of it. I still can't believe capcom rejected Romero... the nerve!

  • March 25, 2012, 1:33 p.m. CST

    @ultratron blah,blah,blah,blah

    by KilliK

    i am still waiting for you to make that hologram with your ipad.or did you forget what you said?

  • March 25, 2012, 1:34 p.m. CST

    I fear I've seen too much plot already but am still totally excited

    by smudgewhat

    Humans gonna get served. And badly.

  • March 25, 2012, 1:34 p.m. CST

    WC Anderson only made one good movie, and that was SHOPPING.

    by AsimovLives

    and that was his first. since then he has degenerated.

  • March 25, 2012, 1:44 p.m. CST

    killik does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    But he sure as fuck does exist in this thread. Dude, did you clone yourself and give every killik a keyboard?!

  • March 25, 2012, 1:45 p.m. CST

    I wouldn't use an iPad. I'd use one of my Wacom Cintiq 21UXs.

    by UltraTron

    As for the holographic part there are many things on the horizon and available now. How about that one that tracks your face and shows you perfect 3D parallax and behind objects? It uses cameras placed 5.7 cm apart. They showed a portable version in Ghost Protocol. The hologram part is possible. If I can hook my computer up to it I can demonstrate in real time a better example of a worm-hole than pencil and paper. But in the end the point is the same. Those are the stupidest fucking assholes to ever drive a spaceship. I don't mind when Roy picks up a zero-grav pen to illustrate a point in 2010. I don't really care that Sam Neil introduces dumb audiences to years-old next generation episode concepts. I just hate stupid fucking movies. The best movies don't explain they just do. Back to the future -you are gonna see some serious shit. The movie then shows you the perils of time travel. Blah blah blah

  • March 25, 2012, 1:47 p.m. CST

    Although I really want this film to succeed

    by papabendi

    I have a horribky nagging feeling we're in for a big slice of average. Initially I was excited, but nothing in the subsequent trailers have made me think we are in for someting special. Nothing. I hope to god l'm wrong.

  • March 25, 2012, 1:48 p.m. CST

    PWCTRFDSWA Anderson makes utter shit/

    by papabendi

  • March 25, 2012, 1:48 p.m. CST

    Secrecy does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    *We'll be getting a lot of Space Jockey though... Including some very nightmarish stuff if what I hear is accurate. * Harry, whats with the throwaway tidbits - isn't this your site? Isnt it set up to reveal insider shit like what you're alluding too? Put up a spoiler warning and spill the beans. *nightmarish stuff* - you could at least break the news if this means the film will be rated R. That would be *cool news* and the whole internet would be interested to hear that.

  • March 25, 2012, 1:50 p.m. CST

    I don't care how technically good he may be.

    by papabendi

    He makes me want to cut my fucking eyeballs out. He's one up from Boll.That's his level.

  • March 25, 2012, 1:57 p.m. CST


    by UltraTron

  • i have.

  • March 25, 2012, 2:10 p.m. CST

    @ultratron dont tell me.

    by KilliK

    come on.

  • March 25, 2012, 2:15 p.m. CST


    by Can

    I bet you it is too!! What a sight it would be end it with a Queen chest burster coming out of the Space Jockey (it has to be a Queen right cause it needs to lay the eggs that are seen in the first film). It will be the big reveal! The Xenomorph gets its bio-mechanical look from the Space Jockey me thinks.

  • March 25, 2012, 2:20 p.m. CST

    If Batman

    by Mugato5150

  • =The Dark Knight Returns. See it. = $100mill opening weekend.

  • March 25, 2012, 2:23 p.m. CST

    Ridley says in the Aliens boxset:

    by UltraTron

    "these films exist largely because of your enthusiasm and support over the last three decades. I hope you enjoy what I have in store for you as we return to this dark, mysterious universe filled with Aliens, Space Jockeys and...something even more dangerous that you haven't seen yet." -- Ridley Scott

  • March 25, 2012, 2:23 p.m. CST

    There will be no Queen reveal

    by NotEnoughBiehn

    The movie doesn't lead directly into Alien. I'm betting it's not even the same ship.

  • March 25, 2012, 2:44 p.m. CST

    Theron = mutated into the Queen.

    by KilliK

  • March 25, 2012, 2:53 p.m. CST

    "the" Queen, or a Queen?

    by NotEnoughBiehn


  • March 25, 2012, 2:57 p.m. CST

    Re : lisab

    by Real Deal

    " Will probably do the same business as EVENT HORIZON " Time and again you prove how much you don't know ( yes guys I know this person does this to get a rise ). The very fact that it's Ridley Scott will mean it will do better than Event Horizon.

  • March 25, 2012, 2:58 p.m. CST

    All I want to say is that I got a kick out of PWSA's steampunk 3 Musketeers!

    by The_Genteel_Gentile

    Lighten up guys!

  • March 25, 2012, 2:59 p.m. CST

    @ ultratron - Fifth Element.

    by The_Genteel_Gentile

    Yeah, Milla Jovovich's ugly mug was pretty hard to look at!

  • March 25, 2012, 3 p.m. CST

    Re : killik

    by Real Deal

    Just the opposite but when do you think I agreed with you?

  • March 25, 2012, 3:10 p.m. CST

    Can I just use this time to defend Stephen Hopkin's 1998 debacle "Lost In Space"?

    by The_Genteel_Gentile

    If Stephen Hopkins were ever allowed to put out his true vision for "Lost In Space", I think if might prove to be pretty magnificent. The movie was compromized in post beyond belief. There was a set release date looming and they just ran out of time and money to realize the movie they had really intended. Major plot points, characters and sequences were discarded entirely in post production because they didn't have the resources to finish them properly. It's a wonder that the film as it exist right now in its current form has any coherence at all! If I ran things, I'd slap down 3 million and tell Hopkins to go prepare his director's cut for blu-ray! Also, I miss Stephen Hopkins!

  • March 25, 2012, 3:13 p.m. CST

    Re : asimovlives About Dallas, knowledge, And Molecular Acid

    by Real Deal

    Dallas is a captain but also I really believe in the future ( as always ) people will be better educated across the board or they won't be able to compete. I was just talking to my wife about this subject and in order to compete ( with countries like China who are dead serious about education ) we will have to be. Education is the future and even the average space trucking captain will know more than the guy on the street nowdays ( 2012 ). As a matter of fact if you were to be put in suspended anamation for oh say just 100 years just to fit into society then would mean serious reeducation. Anyone who doesn't believe this just think of someone from 1912 in today's world. I just flashed back to myself as a teenager explaining to my grandmother about the solar system and other star systems as she had only passed 8th grade. You could get by on that for quite awhile in the 20th century. Not anymore.

  • March 25, 2012, 3:18 p.m. CST

    Re : killik

    by Real Deal

    " =I don't know if anyone mentioned this yet, but I bet the signal that they come across in the original Alien is actually from the prometheus ship = " That's a really good probability. I don't have a problem with that outcome however. Plot wise it would fit together rather neatly that way. However I remember Ripley had to spend a great deal of time decoding it. If that were the case how could it come from humans?

  • March 25, 2012, 3:21 p.m. CST

    Note to Hollywood.

    by adeceasedfan

    Never give the_genteel_gentile $3M. ;)

  • March 25, 2012, 3:29 p.m. CST

    @ ultratron - High tech briefing scene.

    by The_Genteel_Gentile

    It simply removes the human element from the equation. It sucks the vitality out of the circumstance. Rudimentary presentations have a certain basic charm and ingenuity to them. You could throw something together with tech that still seemed sort of slapdashed and energitic, y'know? It's kind of like; "If eveyone here is as intelligent as they ought to be - then let's all just grasp this real fast and start moving forward!". Smart people don't need color coded charts. All I'm saying is that I prefer that type of play on a briefing scene. And therefore, I perceive a highly concocted and eloborately displayed briefing scene to almost feel like a demonstrative affront on my intelligence as an audience member. It's all just a McGuffin anyway, let's hit go already!

  • March 25, 2012, 3:30 p.m. CST

    From the trailers it looks pretty straight forward.

    by UltraTron

    We find the ship with space jock. Space jock bad. We smash space jock ship and crash it. It becomes derelict craft from 1st movie. It also looks like Fassbender the artificial person integrates with the alien DNA weapon or what have you. He then becomes the biomechanical alien with acid for blood, ionized silicon outer shell and the original alien had silver metal teeth. If it's not him transforming in the trailer then perhaps another crew member. But why the fore-shadowing of the robots in the viral videos if he isn't integral to the alien saga? Yeah Fassbender becomes the alien. We are seeing the alien created.

  • March 25, 2012, 3:33 p.m. CST

    If any of this shit happens or not I can't fucking wait.

    by UltraTron

    Just that we actually care if this is good or not is enough to celebrate

  • March 25, 2012, 3:33 p.m. CST

    @ adeceasedfan - Ewww- BURN!

    by The_Genteel_Gentile

    That hurt!;)

  • March 25, 2012, 3:34 p.m. CST

    =Just the opposite but when do you think I agreed with you? =

    by KilliK

    i: the visual styles between P and A are not that similar you: no they are. i: tell why the two doors from P and A are similar. you: they are not similar. i: then you agree that these two styles are not that similar since not even two doors share the same visual style. you: no i dont agree.they are similar regardless of the doors. i: .....

  • March 25, 2012, 3:36 p.m. CST

    Re : enzoc

    by Real Deal

    First let me say I agree with you about TPM. However I also believe TPM had it's own handicap. That being you already know how things turn out. The thing that kept audiences going on the original SW trilogy is it had likable characters and you wanted to know the answers to what would happen to them, who Darth Vader was, and how the romance would turn out. In TPM you had a built in storyline that has to end negative and you already know what will happen. Also I didn't care about the characters like I did in the original trilogy partially because you already know things end up in hell in a handbasket. Think about the differences between the triumph of ROTJ and the drearyness of ROTS. I understand why Lucas choose to start in the middle of the action with ANH ( that and the state of FX ) but maybe he should have made the often talk about ( or hinted at ) trilogy 20 years ahead. Maybe that instead of a prequel might have been a better way to recapture the mystery of the original.

  • March 25, 2012, 3:36 p.m. CST

    Alright enough with the briefing. Star wars had 3D vector briefing.

    by UltraTron

    Now you're asking me to accept paper and pencil. I've been snorting coke in front of 3D graphics since '77 and you want pencil and paper.

  • March 25, 2012, 3:38 p.m. CST

    Re : killik

    by Real Deal

    You are misquoting me. It doesn't help your credibilty

  • The machines are doing the thinking for us, we just enter data and get back results. And as more manufacturing will be performed by robotic means, we won't need a basic understanding of how something works. Look at kids nowadays who seldom pick up an actual book, but will text up a storm, in illiterate sentences and symbols.

  • But any comparison ends there.

  • The briefing in aliens is done on a flat screen table monitor. You want chalk for Prometheus?

  • March 25, 2012, 3:49 p.m. CST

    Re : openthepodbaydoorshal

    by Real Deal

    " Look at kids nowadays who seldom pick up an actual book, but will text up a storm, in illiterate sentences and symbols. " That's not happening in China. The future's a big place. You're just talking about U. S. Things will change because they have to. Sure there will always be automation that errodes our basic math skills and the like but that won't keep people from being educated in other things ( knowledge of molecular acid for one ). Some people in the future might lecture you on the basics of warp drive but still be unable to do basic math in their heads. Hell. I work at a university and we have a similar situation right now. The problem in this only arises when those machines are taken away and you have to start with the basics.

  • March 25, 2012, 3:50 p.m. CST

    Nobody briefs like Mon Mothma.

    by UltraTron

  • March 25, 2012, 3:52 p.m. CST

    There is a good chance this will be R-rated, since...

    by The Dum Guy

    NECA has the rights to Prometheus' toyline. As everyone knows, ratings "don't matter", but I'd rather get the "unrated" version at the theaters.

  • March 25, 2012, 3:54 p.m. CST

    Still waiting on a good Mon Mothma Lucasarts game.

    by UltraTron

    I want to be Mon Mothma. I want to water her plants and say soothing things to them. I want to retrieve water from the moisture vaporator to make tea. She could have a really plain droid that looks no better than a roomba. She could say things like many Bothans died to bring me this tea. If would be really exciting if she could put her feet up and rest from the day's activities.

  • March 25, 2012, 3:58 p.m. CST

    @ ultratron - you may recall I cited more instances than just "Event Horizon"

    by The_Genteel_Gentile

    It's much more about the energy behind those scenes than the exact method. I don't care if they started drawing digital circles in the sky with their fingers and pointing out and highlighting the similarites on each ancient tablet with a poke and then physically grabing each image and stacking them to align. I just want it to feel less pre-manufactured.

  • March 25, 2012, 3:59 p.m. CST

    Re : ultron

    by Real Deal

    How long have you been carrying this 29 year old fantasy? LOL!

  • March 25, 2012, 4:06 p.m. CST

    @ ultratron - Have you seen the new "Hawaii Five-O"?

    by The_Genteel_Gentile

    One thing I hate about that show is that they've got this crazy expensive hi-tech digital table that they push around all there data on - and it's just like; "who's paying for that useless tool?" "That's not on the approved budget for the police department!". There's also just a bunch of magical things they do tech-wise that really annoy, like getting back lab and fingerprint results in seconds and tracking someone's cell phone without a sopena. It's like total big brother/1984/Patriot Act excusing propaganda! It makes me mad! I'll stick to "Southland"! Anyway - that's neither here nor there, guess I just felt like getting that off my chest!:)

  • and he did PREDATOR 2, which i enjoy. the rest of his career is not that brillant, however.

  • Perhaps they've has ample time to hone that presentation. Maybe it's not even the first time they've given it. I don't know. So it's likely that within the context of the story it flows perfectly. Very possible.

  • March 25, 2012, 4:20 p.m. CST

    @ asimovlives - My personal favorites from Hopkins are...

    by The_Genteel_Gentile

    "Judgement Night", "Blown Away" and "Under Suspicion".

  • March 25, 2012, 4:21 p.m. CST

    @ asimovlives - I'm betting you didn't even see Anderson's steampunk Musketeers!

    by The_Genteel_Gentile

    A totally enjoyable b-movie on every level!

  • March 25, 2012, 4:25 p.m. CST

    real deal

    by AsimovLives

    i know about the evolution in education, because i have a direct result in my own life, frommy own family. my paternal grandparents were illiterate. my father nad mother only had primary school education. Me and my brother mananged to get college degrees. So yeah, there is a fantastic evolution on schooling. and with internet we now have acess to a volume of knowledge that could only be dreamed about even in my younger years. so, in many ways, there is no excuse for ignorance anymore, is there? and yet... you know, i'm enjoying immenselly our little convo here. i'm getting to know a better side of you i was unaware, and i'm loving every minute of it. good chat, mate. so, as a gift for our newfound friendliness, allow me to offer you this link: hope you enjoy it. i sure did.

  • but... welll, with good writing and direction, it could work. but it's easily predictable.

  • March 25, 2012, 4:34 p.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    the amount of calculus that is needed for the simpliest of things today would not be feasible if we still used papel and a abacus. I studied social sciences, and one of my courses was data analisis. it's an off-set of statistics (which is the reason why i understood everything the Architect said in THE MATRIX RELOADED). basically, it's the part where your collected data is turned into numbers and analised using mathematical methodes, like the Venn Diagram. So, with a calculator, it took me like 2 hours to do a basic dispersion graphic with just 10 subjects. with a regular exel sheet it takes me less then a second to reach the same result. all this calculus aparatus is a necessacity in today's life. we can't just go around with pensil and paper anymore.

  • March 25, 2012, 4:35 p.m. CST

    @ killik, It

    by bat725

  • March 25, 2012, 4:35 p.m. CST


    by bat725

  • I don't know how to tiny url.

  • so you are suprised that the show is full of dumb ass shit like those SF gizmos and impossible tech on a cop show?

  • March 25, 2012, 4:40 p.m. CST

    "Judgement Night" is alright. it was my introduction to Denis Leary.

    by AsimovLives

  • March 25, 2012, 4:45 p.m. CST


    by KilliK

    Those doors aren't similar? Here are the facts: both doors have a) windows in the exact same place, i agree. b) the same basic octagonal shape for the door frames, WRONG in P,both the door and the frames have an octagonal shape with rounded corners.the frames stand out from the door.The frames are very thick with pair of lines on all their corners.The whole construct gives the impression that it has been assembled from various parts. in A,the door itself is a vertical rectangle with rounded corners.the same goes for the frames which are standing out.the door with the frames are placed inside a bigger octagonal shaped frame which stands out.And that octagonal frame is placed inside a big vertical rectangle wall.They are no lines,the frames are completely flat.The whole construct gives the impression that is curved inside a large wall. c) nearly identical white-based color schemes, and WRONG In P the door is white-is but all the other parts of that entrance have a dark blue-ish tone. In A the door is white inside a less white enviroment. d) the same p-shaped locking mechanism. WRONG.yes the two door panels close in a P-shape line but there is no locking mechanism per se. In P,there is part of the locking mechanism seen in the further 4 corners of the rectangle wall which houses the door and the frames.they looks like small pipes,cables and rotators. that's it for now.

  • March 25, 2012, 4:50 p.m. CST


    by KilliK

    here is my answer to you: sorry but i had to upload my post to that link since aicn doesnt allow me to post big it if you want and tell me your thoughts.

  • March 25, 2012, 4:53 p.m. CST

    @real deal =You are misquoting me. =

    by KilliK

    nope i didnt misquote anything from you.sorry.

  • March 25, 2012, 4:54 p.m. CST

    Re : asimovlives Thanks For The Link!

    by Real Deal

    Yeah I I've always loved Craig Ferguson. I'm sure you saw the one with Matt Smith and the infamous opening musical number?

  • March 25, 2012, 5:05 p.m. CST

    Re : killik

    by Real Deal

    Sorry but if you could show me the post you are talking about....if you can. I mearly pointed out that even today doors aren't the same. That's not saying " I agree with you ". However I did provide a link where set comparisons were being made and the conclusion there was that they are very similar.

  • March 25, 2012, 5:09 p.m. CST


    by KilliK


  • March 25, 2012, 5:11 p.m. CST


    by UltraTron

  • March 25, 2012, 5:15 p.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    you are not going to make me like EVENT HORIZONT. even if the movie had all it's science correct, which doesn't, it would still be a fucking dumb ass stupid movie that i fucking hate.

  • March 25, 2012, 5:17 p.m. CST

    real deal

    by AsimovLives

    nah, i haven't saw the episode with Matt Smith. obviously, i find karen far more interesting to watch.

  • March 25, 2012, 5:18 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    ultratron, you should watch the REVENGE OF THE SITH deleted scenes. You get a bit of young Mon Mothma for your money. No Bothan spies though. Poor bastards.


  • March 25, 2012, 5:20 p.m. CST

    ultratron, i wanted to be Wedge Antilles.

    by AsimovLives

    Luke Skywalker? he's a fag!!

  • he survives the thickest battles in all of the 3 movies, and without the force to help him out. all with natural flying talent. and in the 3rd movie, he's the one that actually blows up the death star. he's the real deal. real badass.

  • March 25, 2012, 5:23 p.m. CST

    killik, can you be a little more descriptive, please?

    by AsimovLives

  • Just got all hellraisery. My Mon Mothma screenplay is better. Mon Mothma is called upon to brief a new group of rebels and all hell breaks loose.

  • March 25, 2012, 5:32 p.m. CST

    I disagree with James Cameron...Hitting Bottom always feels good.

    by conspiracy

    but...He should know...that fucker has tapped many a quality ass from Lisbon to Los Angeles. The man is a world class douche bag and hypocrite...but hats off to him, I would not do what he's doing right now.

  • March 25, 2012, 5:33 p.m. CST


    by KilliK

    here you go mate:!/JimCameron!/deepchallenge/ he reached the deepest part on this planet,Challenger Deep in Mariana Trench.what an amazing human being.

  • i mean, it's just 100 atmosphere pressures down there. and no air.

  • March 25, 2012, 5:37 p.m. CST

    and i don't fucking twat!!

    by AsimovLives

  • March 25, 2012, 5:40 p.m. CST

    @asimovlives sure.after all,he co-designed it.

    by KilliK

  • very fucking stupid. i mean, it's the classic hell shit. the religious hell stuff. how in the fuck would hell be known to humans before that quantum relativistic travel, them? by this movie's own logic, humans either would never known what hell is and thus the travel would be their first experience of it, or humans did found hell before to tell the tale in past eras without relativity and quantum sicneces and hyper-space travel technology. give me a break.! the fucking movie is pants! Shitted stinky pants! fuckass fucking movie!

  • March 25, 2012, 5:42 p.m. CST

    HAHA his wife lost it:

    by KilliK ROFL.

  • March 25, 2012, 6:03 p.m. CST

    Re : asimovlives

    by Real Deal I think I first saw this on AICN. Anyway it was never bradcast but's pretty funny and Fergusonesc! So here you go. And yes Karen is very beutiful and fun to watch.

  • March 25, 2012, 6:10 p.m. CST

    @asimovlives as usual you are wrong about the movie.

    by KilliK

  • March 25, 2012, 6:10 p.m. CST

    @asimovlives as usual you are wrong about the movie.

    by KilliK

    Nowhere in the movie the dimension that the Event Horizon has traveled to, is confirmed as the well-known christian Hell. It is just the expected name that the crew gave to describe a very hellish place.I mean what word would you use to describe something that is of pure chaos and evil? I ll repeat it again,not that you ll listen: Nowhere in the movie,the dark dimension is confirmed to be the christian hell.nowhere. Now the original script gave a more religious tone to that dark dimension,there is a scene where the Weir-beast explains to Morpheus his identity,that he existed before the birth of the universe and that he is the darkness behind the stars. Paul removed that scene because he wanted to decrease the religious undertones and make the nature of the dark dimension more vague.a very good directional choice dont you think?

  • March 25, 2012, 6:27 p.m. CST

    Hey Kilik Sam Neil called it " Hell " in One Of The final Scenes!

    by Real Deal

    Just before Fishburn blows up the connecting tunnel he says something like " and your drive sent them to hell " and Sam Neil replies with something like " Yes. But Hell is just a word. The reality is far more.... " In the end they went to hell as a plot device to turn this into a date / horror film. In the finished film no other explaination is given. Do you see?

  • March 25, 2012, 6:42 p.m. CST

    @real deal are you stupid or something?

    by KilliK

    "Yes. But Hell is just a WORD. The REALITY is far more.... " what the fuck did i just write in my above post? sorry but if i am talking to the wall please tell me to stop. i dont want to waste my oxygen for nothing if you cant understand what the other guy is explaining.

  • Instead I got pinhead. That should send this conversation into an inverted quantum loop similar to the forbidden zone.

  • and it's a disgrace to see the name of that shit being dragged down to a ridley scott conversation and polluting it.

  • March 25, 2012, 6:57 p.m. CST

    movie geeks defending a paul wc anderson movie is wrong, so wrong.

    by AsimovLives

  • March 25, 2012, 6:58 p.m. CST

    ROFL @asimovlives love you man.i really do.

    by KilliK

    time for zzz.night all.cya tomorrow.

  • March 25, 2012, 7:09 p.m. CST

    Looper trailer very poor quality on Youtube

    by successor Looks pretty awesome, even with quality this bad. I'm looking forward to it.

  • March 25, 2012, 7:26 p.m. CST

    I think that this movie is gonna be neat!

    by PotSmokinAlien

  • March 25, 2012, 8:41 p.m. CST

    Event Horizon is AWESOME!!!!!

    by wackybantha

    According to Chris Griffin and Carl.

  • March 25, 2012, 9:21 p.m. CST

    AVP's..popcorn fun..

    by darthwaz1

    even more fun in the unrated versions... I don't get all the hate. Sure AVP coulda been made 100x better, but for what it's worth I like those movies as silly action monster movie mash-ups, no harm done.

  • March 25, 2012, 10 p.m. CST

    How can space jockey be fossilized in Alien?

    by darthwaz1

    How many years prior to Alien is Prometheus? Doesn't make sense how it's long enough for the jockey to fossilize..

  • March 25, 2012, 10:29 p.m. CST

    Be careful - don't say fossilized

    by Tony W

    You'll get your head chopped off here. Just because Dallas says it doesn't make it so. Even though they are trying to imply it's been there for a very long fucking time. "Looks like it's been dead a long time." Dallas. That's why I have a problem with the timeline. If this all takes place in a parallel universe then fine. But don't imply the SJ has been dead for a long time then make a film based on earlier events (30-50 years earlier) that contradicts that. With some lame excuse like when the power to the SJ suit is gone, it erodes quickly and looks a lot older then it really is. They better not go there.

  • March 25, 2012, 10:34 p.m. CST


    by darthwaz1

    Yeah the power suit/erode thing sounds lame. The first alien film implied the thing was a fossil- kinda unrelated, but Lambert's comment "what happened to the rest of the crew?" must be a setup to the deleted (now used) scene when Ripley finds her crewmates stuck to the wall..

  • March 25, 2012, 10:52 p.m. CST

    LV426 looked a lot more rockier

    by Tony W

    in Alien then the area the SJ ship is crashing in Prometheus. So I'm not sure it's LV426 in Prometheus. And the eggs were laid prior to any queen busting out of the SJ in the chair. Don't forget the mist. Plus there was no queen in Alien. The host morph into eggs. It's a cargo ship hauling a hazardous load for a reason. To get rid of and leave a warning beacon so nobody else comes near. Maybe an infected SJ is assigned to pilot the ship to land on an unjockied planet or moon. Or it's to take to a place to cause havoc. The signal isn't from Prometheus, in the deleted scenes of Alien Lambert plays the signal. It's clearly alien in nature. Also Mother would of been able to decipher a human based signal quickly. It might not be Prometheus that rams the SJ ship. It might be a shuttle. Not sure.

  • March 25, 2012, 11:15 p.m. CST

    @asi nails it re Event Horizon...

    by Brian Hopper

    it's a disgrace to see the name of that shit being dragged down to a ridley scott conversation and polluting it.

  • March 25, 2012, 11:15 p.m. CST

    Good point

    by Tony W

    If the SJ wasn't alone and hauling a thousand cartons or eggs then the eggs might be the SJ crew. The SJ in Alien looks like it's at least 12' tall if not like 16' tall. Small eggs for such a large body. Perhaps the eggs are designed to be one size and the rest of the host melts to the ground. But what about the mist? I doubt the eggs are SJs. I think there was one infected pilot getting rid of a hazardous load. Why else would the derelict ship be putting out a warning signal? Perhaps a small SJ crew discovered the xenomorphs on another moon or planet and was bringing it back to their home planet but decided to ditch the ship, that it was to dangerous.

  • March 25, 2012, 11:44 p.m. CST

    Event Horizon is not decent. It's an unholy mess.

    by Brian Hopper

    And I'd take G.I. Jane over it any day, if for no other reason than Demi Moore's rock-hard knockers.

  • March 26, 2012, 1:25 a.m. CST

    Event Horizon was a mess except for one scene

    by misterk360

    When you saw that video footage of the previous crew going insane. That was fucking intense and the scariest part of the film. And if the move had actually centered on those people, it might of had a shot of being a good film, or even, a great one.

  • March 26, 2012, 1:50 a.m. CST

    =Event Horizon is not decent. It's an unholy mess.=

    by KilliK

    YAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWNNNNNNNNNNN. wake me up when you have some arguments to support your statement.but be saw what i did to asimov and his big fuckup for not remembering correctly the movie.

  • March 26, 2012, 2:21 a.m. CST


    by EleanorofAquitaine

    The only way it can make sense (I think) is if there is time travel involved somehow. So that Prometheus preceeded Nostromo by thousands of years, or if there is a parallel universe involved, or a combination of both. And it would also explain why the planet looks totally different. I agree that it cannot possibly be the same timeline with only 30-50 years difference. Hold I was typing that, I wondered if the reason the planet looks like hell to the Nostromo is that the terra-forming went horribly wrong, and it really is only 50 or so years ahead...? Hmmm.

  • March 26, 2012, 2:28 a.m. CST

    no, that can't be right

    by EleanorofAquitaine

    I take back what I just said. If the terra-forming went horribly wrong then what is the company doing back there in "Aliens" terra-forming it again? Presumably somebody in the Company keeps records of which planets have been terra-formed? Obviously time to open a bottle of wine...

  • March 26, 2012, 2:47 a.m. CST

    There is time-traveling involved in Prometheus

    by KilliK

    which will explain a lot of things in the Alien original and how retarded if this turns out to be the case.

  • March 26, 2012, 2:52 a.m. CST

    Time travel

    by EleanorofAquitaine

    Killik. Agreed. Would talk more, but it's now time to move on to the second glass of wine.

  • March 26, 2012, 3:05 a.m. CST

    how original = how unoriginal.

    by KilliK

  • March 26, 2012, 4:38 a.m. CST

    I put stock in the time travel theory.

    by ajt2111

    It makes sense, and this movie is supposed to also get into the origins of mankind. There's also that Rumor that David actually ends up being the basis for man. Who knows? I guess we'll all know soon enough. Also Event Horizon kind of sucked ass. I mean it had a cool concept and some of it was interesting, but it was still sort of a poor movie. Also, Killik really needs a fucking life. Dude, you are on this site like 20 hours a day attention whoring. Also I find it really fucking odd that Fuck you Phantomcreeps. I'm still seeing it. by riseofphantomcreeps This happened when phantom creeps was debating you. And then you kind of posted the same thing a few posts down. It's like your such an attention whore you actually have two accounts that argued with one another and then ultimately one started kissing the other one's ass.

  • March 26, 2012, 4:43 a.m. CST

    Serious killik/phantomcreeps

    by ajt2111

    Fuck you Phantomcreeps. I'm still seeing it. by riseofphantomcreeps And that was in response to Phantomcreeps saying..killik, What the fuck? You used to be a cool MFer? by riseofphantomcreeps Now you are just using some dumbass schtick. Like Creepythinman. What the fuck man? You are really complaining about Prometheus? The last place, true sci-fi and wonderment nerds can go? you reduce yourself to an internet pussy? Come on Man. This movie will be fan-fucking-tastic. Yea, I think you argue with yourself. I think you need a fucking life outside of this site.

  • March 26, 2012, 4:53 a.m. CST

    killik = pissed off John Carter sucked and now...

    by Mako

    is going after all the Prometheus peeps. DICK would be a good word to describe killik. Oh wait... JOHN CARTER sucked!!! LOL Good to see you spend most of your wasted life on AICN killik. HAHAHAHAHAHA dipshit

  • March 26, 2012, 6:15 a.m. CST

    So I've been thinking about the Earth scenes in Prometheus

    by lv_426

    I wonder how much time we'll spend on Earth in the early parts of the film? I'm hoping we actually get to see a good deal of it. Hopefully we'll see a city or two. Perhaps a Weyland Corp building in a major metropolitan area? At this point I don't think they need to rush to a shot of the Prometheus in space in the first five or ten minutes of the film. Especially since this is supposed to be set in the Alienverse, but on a more epic scale. I'm also interested to see what Ridley's vision of Earth's future looks like in the Alien timeline, as we know now that he's not actually combining Alien and Blade Runner into the same mythos. It was also such a let down in Alien Resurrection, to finally get Ripley down to Earth's surface, and then have such an uninspired and blink and you'll miss it view of the futuristic Earth (at least in the director's cut).

  • March 26, 2012, 7:23 a.m. CST

    all the mystery will be stripped away after this

    by UltraTron

  • to be more Blade Runner-sque? i mean all this time i had the impression that Earth in the Alien universe is la shithole like in BR.Then there were the recent comments from Ridley that Alien and BR could be in the same universe,so that impression was solidified. but then we get the Earth scenes from teh tralers with a clean blue sky,fresh air,a green countryside and all that.i dont know,i felt disappointed when i saw the scenes. how about you?

  • March 26, 2012, 8:36 a.m. CST

    Re : killik About The Earth Scenes

    by Real Deal

    Right now we only occupy 13 % of the avaiable land mass. Yes I know it's hard to believe but that's true. So there could be places that might be too cold ( or warm ) or even too isolated that we couldn't move there without some serious terra forming. So it's conceivable that there could be some places still where it's green and blue sky. Now he only outdoor scenes I've seen were very brief where you saw a green hillside and they were bundled up so that could be anywhere. And probably isolated since it's implied that's where she found the message.

  • March 26, 2012, 8:43 a.m. CST

    Re : killik

    by Real Deal

    I'm not seeing where you quoted the movie Event Horizon but it's been on cable quite a bit lately and I recently saw the end again. I know what they said and no one said " It's hell ( but not the christian hell ) ". It doesn't matter what they planned that didn't make it into the movie for this. It's what the director chose and what we were presented with.

  • March 26, 2012, 8:44 a.m. CST

    Re : ultron

    by Real Deal

    " Remember: Do Not See Prometheus if you don't want Alien ruined for you for life the same way Darth Vader is now a whiney child murdering loser. " Sure. Uh huh. Eye's roll to the top of my head.

  • March 26, 2012, 8:49 a.m. CST

    @real deal i say that you are an idiot.

    by KilliK

    does this mean that the word idiot which i used defines the real you?

  • March 26, 2012, 8:51 a.m. CST

    @real deal maybe it is some kind of nature resort?

    by KilliK

    like the ones in Silent Running?

  • It's going to ruin the Alien movies. Watch.

  • March 26, 2012, 11:33 a.m. CST


    by KilliK

    come out,i dont be afraid,i wont hurt you.

  • but then again, one of the cunts responsible for SHIT TREK is one of PROMETHEUS' credited writer, Damon Lindelof. Oh shit! it's fucked! there will be time travel faggotry!!

  • Damon Lindelof kind of looks like the Benjamin Sisko lookalike they got to join in on a fourway one time, its just haunting for him, pay no attention folks, its just they properly hacked away at his eyes, nostrils, ear, pee and buthole relentlessly as a child, and its all to much for the guy. Lynch Stop Shooting People!

  • March 26, 2012, 12:05 p.m. CST

    alan_grant_lives, is there an hack you do not kiss ass?

    by AsimovLives

  • also, I've answered that question for you already, hack. I'm pretty sure I don't kiss your arse.

  • completely different movies.the comparison is mute.

  • March 26, 2012, 12:59 p.m. CST

    The mystery will be totally stripped away

    by Tony W

    I don't think Damon Lindelof gets it, or Hollywood. Unless this is some midget version of the SJ, the one in Alien is giant. What, are they saying, it's a little dude in a big dude's suit? Like in MIB, little dude in the big dude's head. Not only are they getting the size all wrong, they make it humanoid. That totally blows. And is Prometheus implying that the SJ in the chair has only been dead 30-50 years? It's suppose to be ancient. If there's little to no oxygen then the body/suit shouldn't decay/erode as fast. I think it might have been better if they just made a film separated from Alien and SJs altogether. Instead of molding SJ suits, dwarf SJs, time travel, everybody's humanoid, the dawn of man into a story to fit, then they could create a new timeline with a different species that wears a suits that's only 8-9' tall, be humanoid, worship a giant humanoid head, seed Earth that creates man, have time travel...etc, then it wouldn't spoil anything from Alien and the fragile mystery surrounding the SJ.

  • March 26, 2012, 1:31 p.m. CST

    or they could just make a new original scifi movie.

    by KilliK

  • March 26, 2012, 2:35 p.m. CST

    The marketing campaign for this movie seems pitch perfect

    by trytuningthat

    a little at the beginning. A little more. Keep it gritty, keep it dark, keep it mysterious for the hardcore (who already know who's directing it and what to expect)..then BAM hit the mainstream harder with a few explosions, famous faces, previous films by the director and some slight exposition ('it's a map' etc). Add some glitter, some shi-bang, some primordial goo, ancient ruins, collapsing spaceships, planets, blood and grime and WEYYY we have ourselves an audience. Studio done well. As a very personal gauge of how good the marketing is, my MUM said today 'ey...that Prometheus looks good,' and she hadn't even heard of John Carter.

  • March 26, 2012, 2:49 p.m. CST

    I have a feeling that, as *much* as we've been seeing,

    by Robert Evans

    there's something to PROMETHEUS that we probably haven't considered yet. Just a hunch that much of this supposed openness is misdirection.

  • the major differences came from the intelligence of the people who made each movie, as in, the intelligence of the people responsible for SUNSHINE, and the complete lack of from the idiots who made Event Horizont.

  • March 26, 2012, 3 p.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    i have that feelling as well. if true, it has to be one of the most brilant cases of misdirection ever in the service of a movie marketing.

  • March 26, 2012, 3:15 p.m. CST

    Who knew Event Horizon had defenders? I paid to see it

    by Brian Hopper

    the night it came out and wanted my money back immediately.

  • March 26, 2012, 3:17 p.m. CST

    From the director of Matchstick Men!

    by Teddy Artery

    And Legend! :D

  • March 26, 2012, 3:21 p.m. CST

    You guys are right... I get the sense of some

    by Brian Hopper

    misdirection in the Prometheus marketing, like there's stuff they're not letting us know. It's either that, or they are going ALL IN on revealing as much as possible to get a huge opening week (thus explaining the 'openness' of the marketing). Re misdirection: I'm reminded of the bit of misdirection in the marketing for Abrams' Shit Trek. For example, there was that great moment in the trailer when Nero says, 'James T. Kirk was a great man... but that was another life!' And the music hits a crescendo and I remember thinking: wow, there's something else here I wasn't considering... some awesome alt-reality angle with real emotional and intellectual power. Instead, we got the shitty un-thought-out mess that was Shit Trek. So you never know.

  • March 26, 2012, 3:41 p.m. CST

    LEGEND rules, you fucking heathens!

    by AsimovLives

  • March 26, 2012, 3:44 p.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    JarJar is a brillant advertizer, but he's a terrible filmmaker. the disconnect between this two sides of him is mindboggling.

  • and to see it we had to go to another city, to Lisboa, to watch it. not only we walked to the ferry boats, we crossed a river, walked 4 kilometers to the theater, and paye to watch the fucking movie. After it finished, i thought the friendship was over. it probably got this close. we are talking about decade old friends here. they were so fucking pissed off!!! who could blame them!

  • March 26, 2012, 4:03 p.m. CST

    LOL @Asi in my case I went to see Event Horizon

    by Brian Hopper

    by myself... it was so bad that afterward I literally didn't even tell anyone I went, because I felt embarrassed.

  • March 26, 2012, 4:24 p.m. CST

    All the Prometheus talkbacks have been positive

    by Bedhead7

    until killik and asimovlives started reenacting an episode of the real housewives in this talkback.

  • March 26, 2012, 4:26 p.m. CST

    m6y, my lone shame movie was the new CONAN THE BARBARIAN

    by AsimovLives

    i was so ashemed i decided to never reveal i saw it, for feafr of rightful mockery. but i let it slip one day in conversation, and i was rightly mocked for it. you know, this is the shit that sometimes AICN can do to you. you get convincd of all that nonsense about giving a movie a chance,e vne though they are very obviously bad movies made bu hacks without redemption, but still you buy to that "give the movie a chance, see it, how can you judge without seeing it" and all that stuff, and for thagt i get this ass-fucks which i even payed with my own money. the next time somebody tells me to give some movie a chance a movie which so obviously will be a bad one from a well known hack, there will be words. and not of the kind type, if you know my meaning.

  • March 26, 2012, 4:27 p.m. CST

    CONAN THE LAMERIAN more like it

    by AsimovLives

  • March 26, 2012, 4:29 p.m. CST

    bedhead7, dude, have you seen me badmouth PROMETHEUS? Are you mad?

    by AsimovLives

    despite my cautiousness, this is my most anticipated movie, besides THE DARK KNIGHT RISES. you must be mistaking me for somebody else, friend.

  • March 26, 2012, 4:30 p.m. CST

    Event Horizion has some good parts! Prometheus is going to be great!

    by Mandolorian

  • March 26, 2012, 5:24 p.m. CST

    LOL @ Killik asking where everyone is...

    by ajt2111

    not posting on AICN 20 hours a day from multiple accounts that argue with one another? People have fucking lives, yes even movie nerds have lives outside of sitting at home bitching in talkbacks all day every day. Judging by the sheer amount of time you spend here, I'd say it's safe to say that you my friend, are in dire need of a friend...

  • March 26, 2012, 5:26 p.m. CST

    Also about Event Horizon

    by ajt2111

    Better movies have been made with much worse concepts. If put in the hands of someone else, a film based around the ideas presented there might have been really fucking decent. Unfortunately the execution was shit.

  • March 26, 2012, 5:34 p.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    Her her!

  • March 26, 2012, 6:14 p.m. CST

    future tech of the Alien movies..

    by darthwaz1

    It always seemed odd to me that nothing really progressed technology-wise between Alien & Aliens, it looks like in Aliens we're seeing the military branch of the current tech used in Alien, nothing that looked 57 years further on.. and now Prometheus looks waay beyond Alien in terms of tech..go figure

  • March 26, 2012, 6:16 p.m. CST


    by AsimovLives

    it's the power of budget differences, friend.

  • March 26, 2012, 6:23 p.m. CST

    agreed asimovlives...

    by darthwaz1

    But, sorta like the SW prequels, it just looks out of least keep the ships/tech looking the same and just use more advanced effects for the landscapes & creatures.

  • March 26, 2012, 6:53 p.m. CST

    killik I'm With Everyone Else Here........

    by Real Deal

    "does this mean that the word idiot which i used defines the real you? " You need to get a life.

  • This is not to be confused with the revised script by Walter Hill and David Giler which ultimately became the Alien we all know and love. The original script which Alien was based off featured a Pyramid nearby the crashed alien ship that was filled with organic "URNS or JARS" that reacted to touch much the same way they do in Prometheus. Also they take the space jockey's head back to the ship for analysis. Most interesting is that the full grown alien in the first script is described as being "HALF-ANTHROPOID, HALF-OCTOPUS" with "RAZOR-SHARP TENTACLES". Obviously they added a lot of new things in Prometheus story-wise, but it would seem that a couple of things were recycled from that original script. Based on the one shot we saw a bit ago (Noomi Rapace looking through the port glass) I'm guessing they went the tentacled-anthropoid route for the new Prometheus creature. It could even be that the space-jockey has tentacles in some form.

  • March 26, 2012, 9 p.m. CST

    And excuse my poor Grammar.

    by Do Zombies Dream of Butchered Sheep?

  • March 26, 2012, 9:17 p.m. CST

    Spoiler? Cut the last scene from leaked script

    by CrushKillDestroy

    with Vickers and Shaw and I'd be good with that. Else the movie ends on silly note. Almost like Lost where 90% of the effort is wasted on a bad finish. The Enemy Mine, anti-2001 ending is bad. Not entirely happy with the rest but it would be one of the better movies this year without last scene. That lead script really seems close to what the trailers present.

  • March 27, 2012, 1:19 a.m. CST

    Fassbender will probably dominate in acting chops

    by NotEnoughBiehn

    Guy's on another level. Have only seen Rapace in Millenium Trilogy, so I'm curious to see what else she is capable of. I think Idris Elba will be a presence when we see him in context in the final product. Theron isn't doing anything for me besides looking like Theron though. Visuals don't blow me away like many Scott films have. So far, this isn't a patch on Black Hawk Down or Gladiator (would be too easy to mention Alien or BR), but better than most of mainstream Hollywood could do in this genre. Don't know if 3D will be worth the increased slickness of the picture. Music will probably be forgettable like 99% of modern film scores.

  • March 27, 2012, 1:28 a.m. CST

    @asimovlives nope you are wrong,these two movies are different

    by KilliK

    in both their concept and their style.It's more suitable to compare Sunshine with 2001,than EH.

  • March 27, 2012, 1:29 a.m. CST

    @real deal i love it when you ignore my arguments.

    by KilliK

    it's ok.i understand.asimov does the same thing.

  • March 27, 2012, 1:34 a.m. CST

    And another thing.

    by KilliK

    People who love Dead Space should light a candle to EH.without it you wouldnt have that game since it completely ripped off the movie.not that it is a bad thing,Halo did the same thing with Aliens.

  • March 27, 2012, 1:37 a.m. CST

    @foetus someone said that he has seen a rought cut of the film

    by KilliK

    and it is completely different than what the Alien fans expect to see.I dont know if he is lying or not but i wouldnt be surprised if this turned out to be the case.anyway,time will tell.

  • March 27, 2012, 1:40 a.m. CST

    They should also light a candle to System Shock.

    by NotEnoughBiehn

    Audio logs, omnipresent radio contact, tram, the Unitology = the Many, hydroponics level. You wouldn't have Dead Space without System Shock or Event Horizon. And you wouldn't have those two without The Shining or Alien. And you wouldn't have those two....

  • March 27, 2012, 1:41 a.m. CST

    Hey foetus

    by Bedhead7

    You are right about one thing, this does not look like an Alien film. It's NOT an Alien film. Go back to 1979. You can watch the Alien trailer again anytime you want. Watch it over and over again and tell me the Prometheus trailer had bad quality cinematography. Can you see through your nostalgia and judge that with fresh eyes? It looks like a cable access commercial for my local Halloween haunted house and guess what? That is all Ridley ever intended it to be. What do you like about that original trailer? The shitty sound effects? Alien is nothing more than a haunted house filmed by a gifted visual storyteller, able to create an extreme sense of place and mood, with the use of a lot of fog. That was his trick at the time and unlike you, Ridley seems able to try new things, move on, not be blinded by nostalgia as you claim us fanboys are. Were any of the actors in Alien remarkable at the time of that trailer? Was Ridley remarkable at the time of that trailer? You are blinded by nostalgia. What do you really see watching the original Alien trailer? Nostalgia, that's what you see. Most of Your critique of the trailer could have been used to critique the original Alien trailer in 1979. Did I cream my pants for the Phantom Menace trailer? You bet your ass I did. Atleat I don't feel the need to use yup, meh, "quotes" and a bunch of fucking ...'s on my triple spell checked post to sound intelligent while not saying anything intelligent at all. I will not judge the trailer for Prometheus vs the entire Alien film until I have seen it. Until then, it's trailer vs trailer and I believe, minus the nostalgia bias, Prometheus takes the cake. American Ganster was a fucking blast.

  • March 27, 2012, 1:44 a.m. CST

    And you wouldn't have Bioshock, Doom 3, Arkham Asylum, etc.

    by NotEnoughBiehn

    Deus Ex series, Far Cry, Fear series, Bioshock, and many other games I'm forgetting, without System Shock 1 and 2.

  • March 27, 2012, 1:45 a.m. CST

    Or GladOS from Portal

    by NotEnoughBiehn

  • March 27, 2012, 2:28 a.m. CST

    @notenoughbiehn well said.

    by KilliK

    System Shock.what a game.

  • March 27, 2012, 2:32 a.m. CST

    @notenoughbiehn the funny thing with Doom3 is that ID

    by KilliK

    was advertising it as groundbreaking gameplay with stuff like interactively using things in the game environment with your mouse as something new.but the truth was that these game mechanics existed in System Shock years ago.heh.

  • March 27, 2012, 7:21 a.m. CST

    Legend? Legend is awesome.

    by al

    Go wash the dick out your mouth

  • March 27, 2012, 6:22 p.m. CST


    by darthwaz1

    This movie is a total retcon, doesn't mean it won't be good..when you go back and explain away old movies via prequels it doesn't work.. the space jockey was a fossil in Alien, also, if AVP movies are cannon, then the Weyland/Yutani corp has Predator cannons hundreds of years prior to Aliens, which means by the time of Aliens the marines would be using predator camouflage & lasers...see? retconning doesn't work..