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Herc’s Friday TV Talkback!!
The Return Of FRINGE!! Armisen On MAHER!! Eric The Midget On IN PLAIN SIGHT!! Chat Here Also About The Penultimate SPARTACUS!! Plus NIKITA, SUPERNATURAL, MERLIN, NIGHTMARES & More!!

Published at: March 23, 2012, 2:19 a.m. CST by hercules

Eight new episodes of “Fringe” in a row begin airing tonight. Fox says of “A Short Story About Love”:

Following the recent shocking revelations and emotional events, Peter weighs his options as the Fringe team investigates a killer targeting love.

Fridays, Jan. 20-March 16, 2012
(Adults 18-49; repeats in gray; previous weeks in parentheses)
2.0 (0.7) (---) (0.4) (---) (---) (---) (---) College Basketball
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--- (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (1.7) CSI NY
1.7 (1.4) (1.6) (1.8) (1.5) (1.8) (1.5) (1.5) Shark Tank
--- (1.6) (1.7) (1.7) (1.6) (1.8) (1.7) (1.3) Blue Bloods
1.5 (1.2) (1.5) (1.0) (---) (1.5) (1.4) (1.7) Primetime
1.4 (1.3) (1.5) (1.2) (2.0) (1.4) (1.7) (1.5) 20/20
1.1 (1.1) (1.0) (1.5) (1.3) (1.5) (1.6) (1.4) Kitchen Nightmares
1.0 (0.9) (1.1) (1.3) (1.2) (1.4) (1.6) (1.4) Bering Sea Gold
1.0 (1.3) (1.3) (1.3) (1.1) (1.5) (1.1) (1.2) Dateline
0.8 (1.5) (1.6) (1.5) (---) (1.6) (1.4) (---) Grimm
0.8 (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) In Plain Sight
0.8 (0.9) (0.9) (0.6) (0.9) (---) (1.0) (0.9) WWE Smackdown
0.7 (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Fairly Legal
0.7 (0.4) (0.3) (0.4) (0.8) (0.8) (0.8) (0.4) Supernatural
0.7 (1.4) (1.4) (1.0) (---) (1.3) (---) (---) Who Do/You Are?
0.6 (0.6) (0.5) (0.5) (0.3) (0.6) (---) (---) American Pickers
0.6 (0.7) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Ultimate Fighter
0.5 (0.5) (0.5) (---) (---) (0.5) (---) (---) Clone Wars
0.5 (0.5) (0.4) (0.4) (---) (---) (---) (---) House Hunters
0.5 (0.7) (0.6) (0.7) (0.7) (0.7) (0.6) (0.6) Spartacus: Vengeance
0.4 (0.4) (0.4) (0.5) (0.5) (0.5) (0.6) (0.5) Four Weddings
0.4 (0.5) (0.5) (0.4) (0.4) (0.4) (0.4) (---) House Hunters Intl
0.4 (0.5) (0.5) (0.5) (0.5) (0.4) (0.5) (0.6) Merlin
0.4 (---) (---) (1.1) (0.8) (1.3) (1.2) (1.1) NBA Basketball
0.4 (0.3) (0.2) (0.3) (0.5) (0.5) (0.5) (0.3) Nikita
0.4 (---) (0.4) (---) (0.3) (---) (0.4) (---) Real Time Bill Maher
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  • March 23, 2012, 2:23 a.m. CST

    yay to Fringe and Supernatural....

    by KnightEternal

    yayyyyyyyyyyyy!.....I rest my case.

  • March 23, 2012, 4:17 a.m. CST

    Spartacus! And yeah, Supernatural I guess... And Fringe!

    by V'Shael

    Honestly Supernatural has been nothing but disappointing this year. I've actually been preferring Nikita. When it comes to viewing order, that gets ahead of Supernatural this year. But Spartacus... gods above, that show is the one I watch first and foremost. Pretty much the most exciting hour of TV during the week. Fringe, hasn't been good for a long time, but I watch it loyally hoping it will give me a great episode.

  • March 23, 2012, 4:33 a.m. CST

    Supernatural is shit.

    by Shermdawg

    Not even the lovely Mary Paige Keller guest starring last week could ease the pain of how far this show has fell this season.

  • March 23, 2012, 4:49 a.m. CST

    cass is back!

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    i have a feeling this ep will be a highlight of the season and that every other ep for the rest of the season will be "better" "Better" meaning not-monster-of-a-week-quick-mention-of-Dick still... I rather a horrible season of SN then no season of SN

  • March 23, 2012, 4:50 a.m. CST

    What were fringes shocking revelations ? I forgot obviously.

    by higgledyhiggles

  • March 23, 2012, 4:50 a.m. CST

    I want to see FRINGE make it to season five! Ahh!

    by Gene Cowan

    I'm cautiously optimistic. If it doesn't happen, then at least FOX has Terra Nova. oh ...

  • March 23, 2012, 5:04 a.m. CST

    IMO this season of Supernatural > last season

    by Spidermonkee

    Last season I saw very little that seemed to justify extending the season beyond it's intended ending. This season, on the other hand, has had some real gems. A lot of great stuff with Bobby. And episodes like "Repossessed" that make me glad the show is still on the air.

  • March 23, 2012, 5:14 a.m. CST

    Actually no season of SN would be welcome at this point.

    by Shermdawg

    You know that hand technique Sam had to control his "Harvey" conversations with Jacob? (double geek reference!) I'm gonna have to start doing that every time I see that retarded cg Leviathan reveal.

  • March 23, 2012, 5:18 a.m. CST

    I'm finding this season's arc a bit frustrating in SUPERNATURAL

    by IAmTommyWiseau

    The season launched with a fair bit of momentum and there was some good tension all of the way through to the Bobby episode which was a particular highlight. And then.... we had a series of standalone monster-of-the-week episodes where the threat of the Leviathans was put on the backburner. It just killed that momentum for me. I have my fingers crossed that today's episode is good.

  • March 23, 2012, 5:18 a.m. CST

    Agreed about SPARTACUS. Great show!

    by IAmTommyWiseau

    Look forward to that show more than any of the others.

  • March 23, 2012, 5:44 a.m. CST

    This season has has tension?

    by Shermdawg

    But they killed Bobby

  • "But they killed Bobby" was a line I had buried in the middle of the long ass rant I had written without backing up. What type of glitch pulls a random line like that out and eats the rest? I did have that line in quotations....maybe that's the cause. But anyways, long story short, say what you will about season six....but at least it kept the right tone. This year has been a joke from top to bottom. From the inconsistent characters to the score, to the writing, to the direction....hell, even Ackles seems to be phoning it in. Bobby's death hasn't had much of an impact, because of everything being so laughably bad. Thank god Jim Beaver landed on a show more deserving of his talents.

  • March 23, 2012, 5:58 a.m. CST

    What was the Merlin bit? Can't be season 5 already, can it?

    by obijuanmartinez

  • March 23, 2012, 7:34 a.m. CST

    Where`s my Friday Mentalist fix ? Stupid american schedules.

    by higgledyhiggles

  • March 23, 2012, 7:49 a.m. CST

    @Shermdawg - Yes, it's the quotes that did it.

    by V'Shael

    We told the AICN staff about this ridiculous bug months ago in a Doctor Who talkback. It's never been fixed, obviously. If you have more than 255 characters of text without a line break or carriage return, then the first time you use double quotes, the AICN editor will drop all the text, and the double quote, use the line you quoted, drop the closing double quote, and then drop the rest of the message *entirely*.

  • March 23, 2012, 7:54 a.m. CST

    @shermdawg - for what it's worth...

    by V'Shael

    Here's the place we tested the software for Merrick. Took about 6 posts to work out the nature of the bug. http://www.aintitcool.com/node/50238 Go down the page, to where I fell victim to it repeatedly, and Merrick gets involved around Jul 05, 2011 10:09:57 AM CDT

  • March 23, 2012, 8:14 a.m. CST

    Pretty amazing...

    by BangoSkank

    ...that we haven't been able to put anything in quotes for the better part of a year, without fear of it disappearing... I love this place. But it's often a love-hate kind o'thing.

  • March 23, 2012, 8:19 a.m. CST

    THAT SAID (giggle)...

    by BangoSkank

    ...bring on some Fringe, motherfuckers!

  • March 23, 2012, 8:24 a.m. CST

    That quote glitch is retarded

    by theGoldbergV

    I got stung by it recently. Massive post. Gone. I'd ask AICN to sort it out but its been going so long its obvious they either don't care or have no idea how to fix it. Excited for Spartacus (which continues to be fantastic) and then for Fringe (which continues to be good and fustrating in equal measure) On the plus side apparently in this episode we get a definitive answer as to whether Peter is in *his* universe with him deleted or an entirely new one. Bout bloody time I say

  • March 23, 2012, 8:42 a.m. CST

    New Fringe, Yeah! New Grimm??

    by purplemonkeydw

  • Wow, that was a downer reading those posts regarding the issue - and finally realizing the truth - against all defensive words from MOV... 'There'll be the same number of episodes next year' - I Do remember those words from The Moff...

  • What the hell?

  • March 23, 2012, 10:08 a.m. CST

    Fairly Legal

    by dukeroberts

    That is the only Friday night show I watch. It has the delicious Sarah Shari. And her stepmother is pretty damn sexy too. They're both younger than me. They seem older. They don't necessarily look older, but just seem older.

  • March 23, 2012, 10:29 a.m. CST

    @wtriker1701 - Yeah, I know what you mean.

    by V'Shael

    Well, MOV did say repeatedly he wasn't Moffat. This just proves it, I guess.

  • March 23, 2012, 10:51 a.m. CST

    LOTS of Love for Spartacus!!!

    by pumaman

    This season has proved to be excellent. Last Fridays episode was beyond gripping and the best yet. By Jupiters cock , I hope there is another season, or I will flay skin from flesh !

  • March 23, 2012, noon CST

    Not fair to compare Sparticus to Fringe

    by cookylamoo

    Spartacus has boobies.

  • because I don't know what's happening on fringe anymore, so every week just sort of comes and goes.

  • March 23, 2012, 12:18 p.m. CST

    @crow3711 - Only big events are

    by V'Shael

    Peter is making progress with The Machine. All timelines result in Olivia's demise. The bad guy is working on merging two universes (or large sections of them anyway) with catastrophic results. Olivia is regaining memories of the original unaltered timeline, somehow. That's really about it.

  • March 23, 2012, 12:53 p.m. CST

    Thanks, That All Does Sound Vaguely Familiar

    by Crow3711

  • March 23, 2012, 1:21 p.m. CST

    Thanks for alerting me to what actually causes the glitch, v'shael!

    by Shermdawg

    Just hope I can remember to avoid using the quotations when I'm in full rant mode. lol

  • March 23, 2012, 1:39 p.m. CST

    Any news on another series of Spartacus

    by pumaman

    after this one ends?

  • March 23, 2012, 2:11 p.m. CST

    IGN: Fringe: Is Peter in the Right Universe?

    by room23storeblogspotcom

    http://tv.ign.com/articles/122/1221403p1.html

  • March 23, 2012, 2:13 p.m. CST

    Lets see if this gets cut off.

    by room23storeblogspotcom

    So, fade in. Here's what's going to happen," Jackson joked. "Beat by beat for the next eight episodes. So what happens is…" the actor said, laughing. "If we were doing this interview one week from today I could talk more about what happens. But the thing that we are revealing this Friday answers the question about which universe Peter belongs in. And I don't want to tip the hat too much.

  • March 23, 2012, 2:13 p.m. CST

    OK I'll just post each paragraph

    by room23storeblogspotcom

    It might have taken a little while for Fringe's Season 4 to get going, but the last handful of episodes, which included the nefarious David Robert Jones, an evil alternate Nina Sharp (dubbed "Meana" by actress Blair Brown) and Peter travelling inside the mind of an observer, really upped the ante. And even more big answers will be dished out on this Friday's all-new episode, "A Short Story About Love" – which will kick off a run of eight new episodes in a row, taking us to the end of the season with no more breaks!

  • March 23, 2012, 2:14 p.m. CST

    by room23storeblogspotcom

    But one thing many passionate online fans have been debating is whether or not Peter's old timeline still exists at all. Whether it's even something he can get back to. Is Peter already in the right universe? Is he permanently stuck with friends and family who never knew him? Or is there more to it than that? Because certainly new Olivia getting old-timeline memories stuck in her head suggests some deeper metaphysics at play. At WonderCon, I had a chance to talk to Peter himself, Joshua Jackson, along with showrunner/executive producers Jeff Pinkner and J.H. Wyman, about the big episode and what the rest of Season 4 holds for us.

  • March 23, 2012, 2:14 p.m. CST

    by room23storeblogspotcom

    So, fade in. Here's what's going to happen," Jackson joked. "Beat by beat for the next eight episodes. So what happens is…" the actor said, laughing. "If we were doing this interview one week from today I could talk more about what happens. But the thing that we are revealing this Friday answers the question about which universe Peter belongs in. And I don't want to tip the hat too much.

  • March 23, 2012, 2:15 p.m. CST

    by room23storeblogspotcom

    So, fade in. Here's what's going to happen," Jackson joked. "Beat by beat for the next eight episodes. So what happens is…" the actor said, laughing. "If we were doing this interview one week from today I could talk more about what happens. But the thing that we are revealing this Friday answers the question about which universe Peter belongs in. And I don't want to tip the hat too much.

  • March 23, 2012, 2:15 p.m. CST

    by room23storeblogspotcom

    [The episode] will definitely lay out the track for the future of the series as well as answer the question," Wyman continued. "So you don't have long to wait. But I've seen the debate raging online and it's interesting. The whole series is about choices, and the impact that those can have." Wyman then addressed some of the concerns that fans have with Peter and new-timeline Olivia; a topic that will also get some answers. "For us, there are a couple of things that we found interesting about this issue and one of them is that people really have started to care for this version of Olivia, which is amazing.

  • March 23, 2012, 2:15 p.m. CST

    by room23storeblogspotcom

    Wyman added, "It just shows us that anything can happen. Like when we went over to the other side and people said that they'd never love those characters. And then bit by bit they fell in love with them like we fell in love with them. So with this Olivia and this relationship it's very difficult. To be right next to a woman that you know you're right for but it's not her. And how much that hurt. So a lot of people feel really bad for her. Because her heart's getting torn up too. We're glad that people are feeling that. And in this next episode also, you're going to find out a lot more about that; whether it's Peter's ideas or abilities that's affecting her. So that's going to be answered."

  • March 23, 2012, 2:15 p.m. CST

    by room23storeblogspotcom

    As the actor playing the one character on Fringe with no alternate version, Jackson spoke about Season 4. "The fun of this season was that for as much time as I've spent with John [Noble] working out the father/son relationship, and as Anna [Torv] and I have spent in this tortured love relationship where it became epic and then suddenly we don't know each other anymore, it has been fun to reset all of those relationships and go back to almost a new version of what a new show might be. Peter has the burden of all that knowledge and none of the other characters do. And they're not even the same characters that he met at the beginning of Season 1 because their histories are all different. Walter is so much more broken this time around, even more than in Season 1 when he was pretty broken. So Peter having to figure out how to be the not-son helping that man get better again is amazing."

  • We can start with Fringe.

  • March 23, 2012, 2:55 p.m. CST

    FRIDAY. GREAT NIGHT FOR GREAT TV

    by JaredP

    FRINGE SUPERNATURAL NIKITA and SPARTACUS. the only shows that can survive the friday night death slot

  • March 23, 2012, 3:15 p.m. CST

    pumaman

    by JaredP

    season 3 has already been greenlit for next year

  • March 23, 2012, 3:58 p.m. CST

    More stuff (Spoilers) I'm warning you now

    by room23storeblogspotcom

    http://tvline.com/2012/03/23/fringe-preview-season-4-episode-15-series-finale/ Fringe: Scoop on Peter's Homecoming, 'Meana,' the Top-Secret Episode 19 and Two Finale Plans Matt Webb Mitovich Fringe is new tonight (Fox, 9/8c) — and new every Friday from here on, straight through to the May 11 finale. And as with any home stretch of the series, lips are getting tight as to what’s to come (especially as regards the annually out-there Episode 19, which this year features Lost‘s Henry Ian Cusick, a “Young Olivia” and an “Old Nina”). Here’s what the cast and EP Jeff Pinkner shared with us at WonderCon — including the latest word on the season and series finale plans. THE ELITE EIGHT | That Fox elected to schedule Fringe‘s final Season 4 flourish with eight straight original episodes gets a big thumbs up from Nina Sharp’s good hand. “I’m so glad they’re showing them together,” says Blair Brown, “because they’re very powerful how they build on each other — not only bringing in characters that have been around before, even from the first season, but also characters coming in.” Through that combination of tales and faces familiar and new, “some stories will explain a little more than we knew before, some not,” says Brown. “Relationships deepen [or] have new tangents.” ‘MEANA’ | Speaking of Brown, the actress clarified that the “Mean Nina” who is in cahoots with David Robert Jones and tried to dupe Olivia a few weeks back is not a shapeshifter. Rather, “It’s a version of Nina that was thwarted, because there was no [William] Bell, no [sane Walter] Bishop, in that timeline. So you have a person with the same ability, who’s been left outside the circle — and Jones brings her in.” The way Brown teases, Meana’s worst may be yet to come. “This is not a happy person; this is a desperate person,” she warns. “She needs to be watched.” HOME, SWEET HOME? | Pinkner says that the question of when or whether Peter will ever return to or restore his original timeline “won’t be relevant anymore very soon” — and Joshua Jackson himself reiterated as much. “Peter’s been a bit waffle-y lately. It’s him, it’s [Olivia], it’s not her…. I’ve gotta go home, I’m staying, I’m going to solve this universe, too. He’s just gotta make up his mind,” he told us. “[And] it’s answered in this next episode.” THE 19th HOLY MOLY! | Ever since Henry Ian Cusick and Aussie blonde Georgina Haig were cast as FBI agents — the latter of which has been ID’d in paparazzi pics as “Young Olivia” (!), and accompanied by an “Old Nina” (!!) — there has been much head-scratching over what this season’s 19th episode will be about. (After all, previous Episode 19s have taken animated or musical detours.) Here’s what we know: As previously shared, Joshua Jackson — “for reasons I can’t tell you” — says he has scenes with neither guest star. Brown, meanwhile, seemingly confirms that pap pic caption, saying, “There’s another Nina coming up…. A time jump has happened.” You can also expect John Noble to offer another take (or two!) on Walter. “I think I’ve just done my 11th version of Walter,” he told us. “I did two new ones in Episode 19.” And… that’s pretty much all we’ve got. Oh, wait — maybe Seth Gabel is willing to part with some intel? “I can’t talk about Episode 19,” he deferred. “Just know that it’s really awesome and Desmond from Lost is in it!” GRAND FINALE(S) | Ah yes, the annual renewal question. Pinkner, as of last weekend, had not gotten word either way, but said, “We’re feeling very bullish [and] positive that we will be coming back next year.” Which is nice, since he also reiterated that he and J.H. Wyman had no plans to rework the Season 4 finale into a series finale. “When we set out to shape this season, we started with the finale and knew that it wouldn’t change whether it was the series finale or season finale,” he said. After all, in an ideal world, the Fringe bosses have a very distinct conclusion to the series in mind. And when that day comes, Pinkner says, “It will feel very satisfying, it’ll be true to what the show’s been about, it will be true to the characters, and it will, hopefully, reward people who’ve invested in the show and stuck with it.”

  • That's what I think anyway, but I'm veryhigh right now.

  • March 23, 2012, 5:29 p.m. CST

    A good night for TV, for now.

    by gotilk

    Fringe, Supernatural, Spartacus.... May they all survive.

  • March 23, 2012, 5:41 p.m. CST

    Fringe is back tonight?

    by Titus05

  • March 23, 2012, 5:41 p.m. CST

    I thought it wasn't due back until early April

    by Titus05

    time to go set my DVR

  • March 23, 2012, 7:32 p.m. CST

    Awesome New Fringe!!!!!

    by room23storeblogspotcom

  • March 23, 2012, 7:42 p.m. CST

    Hey look

    by Truxton Spangler

    50% of Nikita's audience has congregated here. (and I count myself among the fans) Sarah Shahi is, in Herc's parlance, 'piping hot,' but not enough to sit through her show.

  • March 23, 2012, 8:02 p.m. CST

    T-minus 59 minutes till Maher bigotry, misogyny etc....

    by jay2517

  • March 23, 2012, 9:11 p.m. CST

    HA-I KNEW IT!! Fringe SPOILERS

    by batmancw

    As I've posted here many times, I knew that this had to be Peter's reality, albeit one altered by the fact that he had been "erased". Where else would he have come back? A fair episode overall--felt very Xfiles ish, but the revelation at the end and the rare happy ending for the kids made me like it all the more.

  • but, of course, a person with ur mindset eats it up! typical of AICN "intellectuals", such as urself...

  • March 23, 2012, 10:42 p.m. CST

    Bill Maher is an ASSHOLE...

    by Chris Moody

    ...no matter which group he insults for not agreeing with his radically leftist views. He is insane enough to think that anyone who doesn't agree with him is "crazy." The moron deserves his tiny group of rancid fans.

  • March 23, 2012, 10:43 p.m. CST

    What's that teabaggerharry?

    by Chris Moody

    I can't hear you when you have Maher's dick in your mouth.

  • March 23, 2012, 10:50 p.m. CST

    ^LOL^ shhhh redux! they're going to call u a homophobe now!

    by jay2517

  • ...and quit deflecting like ALL AICN progressives and "libertarians" in here mmk?

  • March 23, 2012, 11:43 p.m. CST

    September lied to Peter on Fringe

    by cookylamoo

    There was a perfectly good scientific reason why Peter wasn't erased. Because September didn't flip the switch in this season's first episode.

  • March 24, 2012, 12:34 a.m. CST

    cookylamoo - September was refering to before that

    by room23storeblogspotcom

    When Peter stepped into the machine he was supposed to be erased, but their love kept him around in whatever form that he was in. Then the Observers has September make the device which would have (possibly) cut that connection which was keeping him there but didn't and then Olvia and Walter used the cortexifan guy to yank him back all of the way. So September was telling the truth.

  • March 24, 2012, 12:49 a.m. CST

    fuck all of you SPARTACUS was batshit tonight

    by torontoxic

    Mr DeKnight, <P> Where did you get the weed you smoked before you wrote S2 E9 Monsters?

  • March 24, 2012, 1 a.m. CST

    Sorry...BRENT FLECTHER

    by torontoxic

    I checked imdb but it says the show runner. In the credits it's got your name. Nice work.

  • March 24, 2012, 1:35 a.m. CST

    two hours of good tv tonight

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    fringe and supernatural of course. that was a touching scene with nina and olivia. it was nice to see how they resolved sams issue and brought cass back ps: im gonna name my son emanuel so he can get bullied

  • March 24, 2012, 1:37 a.m. CST

    also, tv needs to get more supernaturalish/sci-fi-ish shows on network tv

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    because with fringe and sn being on the back end of their run, we need something that will take their spots (hopefully 2-3 seasons later)

  • March 24, 2012, 2:11 a.m. CST

    OK so this IS the regular reality so what happens next with the other characters?

    by room23storeblogspotcom

    Olivia's gotten her regular personality back, will Nina forget the Motherly relationship and become the business lady? Will Walter change back to regular Walter or is his progression going to be more natural with the progression that he's made this season with being around Peter the thing that reverts him? Lincolns kind of the same, except that he's grown a crush on Olivia, but then maybe he would have anyways if had the chance in his season 3 cameo on this side? It will be interesting to see how it all unrolls in the next 7 episodes. Great stuff, I love how they brought that cylendar from season 1, reguardless on wiether it was planned way back then or if it was picked up again and added to it was such a great way of connecting things! And now we get new understanding on the porcupine creature from season 1, except that now its lose in civilization rather then trapped on a plane.

  • March 24, 2012, 3:03 a.m. CST

    Okay, dumb question, why does Olivia love him so much?

    by Domi'sInnerChild

    He banged Faux-livia, he banged her sister, he probably banged Asterix, and he seems only interested in her because of proximity. Sure, they've saved each other's lives a bunch of times, but you'd think Olivia's man hands would drive Peter away. And Peter's whorish and criminal nature would drive Olivia away. One of the many mysteries of Fringe.

  • March 24, 2012, 3:39 a.m. CST

    Spartacus... Dammmnnnnn!! Spoilers

    by happybunni

    I haven't liked this season, but that was definitely one of the best episodes they've ever had. The new annoying characters I disliked were killed, Spartacus declared his non-love for Mira basically admitting he's using her for sex, Ashur was in short supply, lots of new plots. Still not a fan of new Naevia, she has a worse body than old Naevia and is a worse actress. But I'm PISSED about Oenomaus' eye! Poor dude, he didn't deserve that. They already turned him into a weak fighter when he was supposed to be badass.

  • March 24, 2012, 3:42 a.m. CST

    too lazy to back up what ima say domi

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    but its kinda like fate, because they knew each other as kids and that couldve formed that "titantic"-type of connection or maybe he/she has some bomb ass dick/pussy and with tonights revelation, i think in the end, the show will be about their love, everything else is just effects from it basically, replace the island from lost with love in this case

  • March 24, 2012, 3:52 a.m. CST

    Also Nikita is an awesome show. Doesn't deserved to be cancelled

    by happybunni

    I know viewers aren't there, but it's a pretty good show with a good storyline.

  • March 24, 2012, 5:21 a.m. CST

    Spartacus season 3 (or 4 it depends) starts filming in April.

    by Volllllume3

    By Jupiter's cock!

  • March 24, 2012, 9:43 a.m. CST

    I agree with spidermonkee

    by alexander

    there have been some real gems in this season of Supernatural, for ones like the Bobby-centric ep, I'm still glad it's on air.

  • March 24, 2012, 9:47 a.m. CST

    and then I read iamtommywiseau's post

    by alexander

    only up to episode 11!

  • March 24, 2012, 12:16 p.m. CST

    I agree with happybunni

    by room23storeblogspotcom

    Give the Maherites/Anti-Maherites their own talkback so that we can discuss Fringe/Supernatural/Sparticus, etc in peace.

  • March 24, 2012, 12:28 p.m. CST

    The dreaded Glaber

    by Extr3m1st

    By Juno's cunt I swear he is going down next week!!! (Juno's cunt, anyone remember Rome?). Anyway great episode of Spartacus. Illythia is a real nut job eh? A hot nut job though, love that chicks bod. Great hair too. The house of Asher lmfao. He is fucking awesome in that role.

  • Both started with genuine mystery, then started to explain things in a semi-scientific way. Then degenerated into a bunch of metaphysical bullshit espousing the power of 'love' and abstract concepts in creating real-world change. I do like Fringe, but this entire 'love conquers all' plot as a device for how Peter still remains in existence is bullshit. It's pandering. And sometimes the tech bugs the hell out of me - the device that slows down video into light waves? Insulting to the intelligence of anyone who knows how video is actually recorded. On the other hand, Spartacus was great last night.

  • Putting aside the 'video slowing down' machine (I guess the guy they had on staff to advise the science stuff has left because come on! How do you slow down a series of still images?!) last night's episode had a half-assed MOTW, a weak side story which brought back the capsule from season 1 only to destroy all the mystery surrounding it, and finally had that 'love conquers all' metaphysical explanation that LOST indulged in during its final season. I don't want to sound like a hater and I know this sounds negative, but this year Fringe has gone from must-see TV to something I watch out of habit. Perhaps they should just end it before it truly soils its early seasons like that other paranormal procedural on FOX did.

  • March 24, 2012, 3:41 p.m. CST

    extr3m1st

    by torontoxic

    Unless they seriously deviate from history Glaber finally gets Spartacus.

  • ...just STFU already goldberg. just, as in Lost, because it doesnt explain things the way u want, doesnt make it a bad show. u fuking bitch about EVERYTHING...

  • March 24, 2012, 4:23 p.m. CST

    Fringe - going where X-Files failed

    by oisin5199

    Fringe: come for the X-Files nostalgia, stay for the emotional themes. It's funny - X-Files tried to do something like that with the "Truth is Out There" ultimately meaning the love between Scully and Mulder, but I don't think it worked very well. I did like Mulder and Scully's relationship, but it was really a backdrop for the knowledge-seeking. While I was a huge X-Files fan at the time, I think the show was ultimately a noble failure, collapsing under its own weight. Fringe does the emotional stuff far better, where the cases and the story arc highlight all the main characters' struggles to connect (with each other, their own emotions, their families, their guilt). They're all very "Fringe" people. And the fact that the show redefines itself almost every season keeps it fresh. I tend to think, however, season 5 will be the last. And I'm ok with that. This show doesn't need 10 seasons. For those of you who can't handle the "love" stuff, then watch a different show. From the very beginning, Fringe has been about the characters and their attempts to connect, and the episodes often had emotional themes. It's called science fiction - the best scifi deals with the human condition. And love's a pretty big part of that. Besides - love kinda makes sense with quantum physics....

  • March 24, 2012, 5:05 p.m. CST

    Fringe - best scifi out there. Supernatural Oh what have they done!

    by rakesh patel

    Fringe has been constantly good it's entire run. I haven't' given it much love, because it's always been there, but damn, some solid storylines, and acting keeps me coming back. I really do hope fox give it another season. Its the best sci-fi out there currently.] Supernatural is kinda on live support, really this levitation story has made a lot of casualties but zero suspense. It used to be ridiculous the amount of hot women appeared ins supernatural, but yikes meg was looking proper rough in this ep. And Castiel? Please don't tell me they brought him back just for him to be vegetable in a bed. there was no build up to that sacrifice for that character. is this the final season for supernatural? recordng spartacus, will watch in one go!

  • March 24, 2012, 8:47 p.m. CST

    I agree with yea on the love stuff oisin5199

    by room23storeblogspotcom

    Thats real life, its not a cliche (the word cliche is thrown around so much that its a cliche) In real life love is a major focus of motivation for nearly everything.

  • March 24, 2012, 9:17 p.m. CST

    Yeah, love can be the focus...

    by Jarek

    But when it's used as a lazy plot device to explain how a physical being completely wiped from a timeline can suddenly spring back into existence, it's really straining believability. And don't make the excuse that it's a sci-fi show, so anything goes - why not just say a wizard brought Peter back in that case? It's about as plausible. You have to realize, the Observers made it as if Peter had never survived the lake - so how do loved ones memories manifest themselves into a full, physical being? Makes no sense.

  • March 25, 2012, 12:22 a.m. CST

    Well I guess that you shouldn't read any Grimm fairytales or Disney Animated movies then

    by room23storeblogspotcom

    True loves kiss wakes a girl put under a sleeping spell was something that they used many times and it wasn't a lazy plot device, it was part of the story because it was something that was set up as part of that fairytale universe. Just like the pseudoscience of Fringe. The idea of love bringing Peter back has been part of the universe that the creators have set up. Wizards was never part of this universe. Fringe has always been part real science mixed with the implausible (pseudoscience). I respect your opinion, according to your opinion the show didn't live up to your expectations, but that doesn't mean that its truely a lazy copout.

  • March 25, 2012, 12:59 a.m. CST

    sure, but what if love is science?

    by yabory

    remember, magic is science. and love is magic. it's cheesy on a dumbass level, but it works because it's what drives almost all storytelling, the quest for it, it drives. to say peter exists because of love is to say peter exists because of magic, because of science. i found tonight's episode perfect. just a great show. i disagree with one thing. i would love this show to go 7 seasons. if the stories remain strong, and the characters keep evolving, then keep going. and when the fuck is nielsen gonna start keeping track of WHAT PEOPLE RECORD?!?!? way more people watch fringe than what the numbers show.

  • March 25, 2012, 5:46 a.m. CST

    Hehe jay accusing people of being a whiny bitch

    by theGoldbergV

    Pots, kettles and black spring to mind broheim, made any posts about Bill Mayer lately? I have no problem with love being used as a motivation in fiction, pa is right its what motivates most of us. But Javek is right, that being the reason Peter came back? It's a bit weak. Its not just me, I think a lot of fans have gone off Fringe this year. It's not been a patch on season 3

  • March 25, 2012, 9 a.m. CST

    Just watched Friday's Spartacus..

    by pumaman

    and by Jupiters fat cock it brought smile to face. An excellent episode!!!

  • March 25, 2012, 9:27 a.m. CST

    Regarding Peter's ressurrection

    by cookylamoo

    You could say that being full of inter-demensional energy at the time, Peter was more likely affected by the "Power of Love" than the average person, just as Olivia, loaded with Cortexaphan has been able to remember their pre-merge adventures. Maybe that helped her "love" him back t reality.

  • March 25, 2012, 12:37 p.m. CST

    bitchyberg, who is this *Bill Mayer* u speak of lol ;)

    by jay2517

    is he in any relation to the bigoted prick Bill Maher? anyway, at least my *whinyness* is based on facts and not because the writers of some show arent writing the show EXACTLY like u want them to. thumb, mouth and diapers spring to mind with u, brotha...

  • March 25, 2012, 12:48 p.m. CST

    The only person...

    by pumaman

    that really benefited from the power of love was Huey Lewis I believe..

  • March 25, 2012, 1:36 p.m. CST

    @pumaman

    by rakesh patel

    I think you'll find Jennifer rush and Frankie goes to Hollywood benefited at virtually the same time.

  • March 25, 2012, 2:41 p.m. CST

    if people only exist in our perception of them

    by oisin5199

    than Peter had such a hold on Walter and Olivia that their desires brought him back. I tend to think that Walter's hallucinations and Olivia's dreams weren't actually Peter reaching out from the beyond. Rather vice versa, that these traces in their subconscious reached into the beyond to get Peter. In amberverse, both Walter and Olivia had adjusted and were doing "fine" but were ultimately lonely and empty. Ironically, however, Walternate was a better person without Peter, so I'm curious to see how that plays out. You'd think he'd still hold a grudge in that Walter got Peter killed, but apparently it made him less evil. With Olivia getting her old memories back, at first I thought that Peter was influencing the amberverse to slowly make its way back to the regular timeline through the people he affected. But then I wonder if Fauxlivia will then be pregnant again or something. Because wiping away that baby from existence seems a bit too easy. Anyway, if you can't handle the love metaphor and its influence on reality, than I contend you're watching the wrong show.

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