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Matt Smith's New Companion On The 7th Season/Series Of DOCTOR WHO Is...

Published at: March 21, 2012, 7:19 a.m. CST

 

Merrick here...

Per the official DOCTOR WHO Twitter stream, a new companion has been selected to join Matt Smith during Season/Series 7 of DOCTOR WHO - which will transmit beginning later this year.  

What follows might be viewed as SLIGHTLY spoilerish in nature, but keep in mind that these are officially sanctioned info bits...so my guess is these points aren't too revealing in the grand scheme of things. 

The new companion joining the Doctor on his sprawling adventures across time and space is the rather stunning Jenna-Louise Coleman.   Coleman appeared recently in CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE FIRST AVENGER, but may be better known for her role as Jasmine in EMMERDALE. 

Per Steven Moffat:  "We saw a lot of brilliant actresses. But Jenna was the only person going faster than Matt - he had to keep up!"

The official Twitter stream also indicates that 6 episodes of Season/Series 7 will transmit this year, including a Christmas Special which will introduce Coleman's character.  8 further episodes will follow net year.  

Per Moffat:  "Amy & Rory will leave in a final encounter with the Weeping Angels in ep 5. Not everyone gets out alive and I mean it this time"

Keep your eyes on that Twitter stream for more details as more come around.  For now, here are two embeds featuring Coleman: 

 

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  • March 21, 2012, 7:21 a.m. CST

    That's a lot of hours of Doctor Who for us this/next year.

    by gotilk

    I am very happy at the moment. And she is adorable.

  • March 21, 2012, 7:24 a.m. CST

    She has a square head

    by c4andmore

    Should match perfectly with Matt Smith's Frankenstein looking noggin.

  • March 21, 2012, 7:24 a.m. CST

    A young girl in her mid 20's how original.........

    by harryknowlesnothingaboutfilm

  • March 21, 2012, 7:25 a.m. CST

    Maria's story.

    by gotilk

    Was not prepared to lose it this early in the morning. Not mad about it or anything, but that was really sad, powerful stuff. :(

  • March 21, 2012, 7:26 a.m. CST

    Never though I'd say this on AICN...

    by Jeffwode

    But, aside breeding talent for Brit drama (Eli Dingle/ Joseph Gilgun is fantastic in Misfits and This Is England) Emmerdale is pretty good at the moment. Way better than EE and Corrie anyway.

  • March 21, 2012, 7:27 a.m. CST

    Big English Tits

    by TheNotoriousDRB

    If you're going to replace Amy Pond, you go for the tits. Very shrewd, Moffat.

  • March 21, 2012, 7:27 a.m. CST

    They travel to the moon

    by catlettuce4

    because she has a moon face

  • March 21, 2012, 7:30 a.m. CST

    Maybe her Character will be called Moon Face Alpha

    by harryknowlesnothingaboutfilm

  • March 21, 2012, 7:31 a.m. CST

    How long before fake nude pics of her turn up on the net

    by harryknowlesnothingaboutfilm

  • March 21, 2012, 7:37 a.m. CST

    Well this certainly isn't a DocBack is it?

    by gotilk

    LOL. I really think she seems lovely/talented. Give her a shot. I'm sure she was picked for a reason, and I'm sure that reason was not her chesticles. I will miss Amy Pond though. Won't be taking it out on this new companion, however. I am really, really going to miss Amy Pond though. Really, really, really. Please do not kill her off so we can see her again someday. Rory, I will miss as well. And killing him off would be almost as heartbreaking. Considering. The show has been trying to kill him off for so long now though that it seems almost inevitable. Did I mention I'm going to miss Amy Pond? I will.

  • March 21, 2012, 7:37 a.m. CST

    Merrick

    by Mister Vertue

    Did you get the email? Hope so! I'll follow up on that shortly with an explanation of how events unfolded yesterday...

  • March 21, 2012, 7:37 a.m. CST

    She's....

    by Dead_Geek

    ... not white enough.

  • March 21, 2012, 7:42 a.m. CST

    I wonder if she is bigger on the inside?

    by harryknowlesnothingaboutfilm

  • March 21, 2012, 7:43 a.m. CST

    harryknowlesnothingaboutfilm, c4andmore and catlettuce4

    by Mister Vertue

    What is the point of those comments? This isn't a school playground filled with 6 year old children. Name calling online makes you look extremely childish, but it's easy to sit there and type insults these days, isn't it? So sad.

  • March 21, 2012, 7:45 a.m. CST

    So they replaced a redhead hottie with a brunette fattie?

    by KilliK

    GOOD CALL MOFFAT.

  • March 21, 2012, 7:45 a.m. CST

    Very sad.

    by gotilk

    Definitely not a DocBack.

  • March 21, 2012, 7:48 a.m. CST

    I like you, killik.

    by gotilk

    But if you think she's fat, you got some *learnin' to do*. She looks like a real woman, and far, far, far from fat. You disappoint me. Please excuse the distorted American standards.

  • March 21, 2012, 7:50 a.m. CST

    Um ...... she seems nice !

    by Dalius

    But all the photos of her are ..... well, not great. Quick Moffat, get her a proper photoshoot !!!

  • BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBS

  • March 21, 2012, 7:52 a.m. CST

    BOOBS

    by KilliK

  • March 21, 2012, 7:52 a.m. CST

    BOOBS

    by KilliK

  • March 21, 2012, 7:53 a.m. CST

    gotik

    by Johnboy40

    hmmmmm..its not like a usual friday chit chat, is it? as for the choice, as I said to merrick, i don't watch the soaps, so I couldn't say if she is any good..though in the clip above she seems pretty solid. I do think, especially in the really unflattering pic that the daily telegraph used, she looks like a bit of a cheryl cole clone (although they have added another couple that ain't as bad) Anyway, best of luck to her, it must be a daunting task taking over from the Ponds

  • March 21, 2012, 7:57 a.m. CST

    Jenna is a cutie

    by peter skellen

    She'll be fine and Amy was becoming a bit annoying. The series has to shuffle the cast now and again to stay fresh.

  • March 21, 2012, 7:59 a.m. CST

    killik

    by gotilk

    'S Okay man.

  • March 21, 2012, 7:59 a.m. CST

    How can you be faster than Matt Smith?

    by BEHEM Pascal

    Is it humany possible?? Doctor Who season 7 won't be here soon enough.

  • March 21, 2012, 8 a.m. CST

    She's in a new drama cersion of Titanic...

    by dj_bollocks

    soon on ITV... so we'll get to see a bit of her acting chops then...

  • March 21, 2012, 8 a.m. CST

    merrick

    by gotilk

    Is the article going to be updated, or will there be a separate post with the new info MOV hinted at? Oh and WHOTININNIES! (sorry, not able to resist doing that)

  • March 21, 2012, 8:02 a.m. CST

    pascalahad2 it's not only humany possible

    by gotilk

    It's humany-wumaney possible.

  • March 21, 2012, 8:09 a.m. CST

    Huge Doctor Who fan dying of brain cancer.

    by gotilk

    I just found this story earlier and I thought maybe some of you would be interested in helping them. The man has requested a TARDIS urn for his ashes and people are working on that, but he has a few other dying wishes and maybe some of us can help with some of them. He idolizes Moffat, and would love to have some kind of a shout-out from him before he goes, and can still understand it in context. He's deteriorating, but still aware of his surroundings and can read. But that won't last very long. Here's the link to the couple's story. They're a young couple. In your 20s is a terrible time to die from a deteriorating brain cancer. http://www.washandtashi.blogspot.com/ I don't want to bring everyone down, but I could not keep this to myself.

  • March 21, 2012, 8:13 a.m. CST

    Goddamn!!!

    by Stale Elvis

    Good Lord I had the hots for Jenna-Louise Coleman when she was in Emmerdale. She's absolutley drop-dead/sell your soul gorgeous. Every inch a woman and did I mention she's gorgeous? I mean, really really gorgeous. Really gorgeous. Rude-looking too :)

  • March 21, 2012, 8:15 a.m. CST

    (Channeling my inner Cookie Monster) "ME WANT...BOO-BIEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!"

    by obijuanmartinez

  • March 21, 2012, 8:16 a.m. CST

    Interesting Choice Of Video There, Merrick!

    by CHRISTIAN_BALE_TRASHED_MY_LIGHTS

    Hey everyone! Here's the new WHO companion, and here she is as a rape victim describing how her virginity was bloodily taken as a 7 year old! Still, I guess it shows that she has acting range!

  • March 21, 2012, 8:19 a.m. CST

    Interesting Choice Of Video There, Merrick!

    by CHRISTIAN_BALE_TRASHED_MY_LIGHTS

    Here's the new WHO companion, everyone! And here she is as a rape victim describing how her virginity was cruelly and bloodily stolen at the age of seven! Still, it shows the gal has range!

  • March 21, 2012, 8:20 a.m. CST

    Whoops. Double post!

    by CHRISTIAN_BALE_TRASHED_MY_LIGHTS

  • March 21, 2012, 8:30 a.m. CST

    Merrick: Man, that Wash guy with brain cancer...

    by gotilk

    really hits home with me. The more I read of his story, the more I want to help. Unfortunately, posting about it here and elsewhere is about all I can do since I'm essentially doing the same thing... caring for a dying family member myself. Would you, Merrick, consider mentioning this couple's story in the next DocBack? If you say no, no hard feelings. I just think it's an opportunity to help *one of us*. Time is of the essence though, as his mind is deteriorating and it's hard to tell how long any of this will have meaning for him still. Here's the link again to his wife's blog... http://www.washandtashi.blogspot.com/ We have such a strong, wonderful community. I think it could be a chance to show just how strong and great we are. I'm not even entirely sure what we could do, but she makes a few of his wishes clear. He'd like some kind of a message from The Moff, for sure. Maybe there's a way we could help make some other things happen as well, even if it's just to encourage some donations to help her get through this. The really sad part is that he won't beat this. The best anyone can do for him is to give him a few smiles before he goes and make him as comfortable as possible. Thanks for even considering it.

  • March 21, 2012, 8:39 a.m. CST

    Why doesn't the Doctor ever hang out with guys?

    by moorE12

  • March 21, 2012, 8:46 a.m. CST

    gotilk

    by Merrick

    Yes

  • March 21, 2012, 8:53 a.m. CST

    Why are they getting rid of Pond?

    by Rob Jenson

    Is there some law that says a companion can't stay for more than X years, or did someone want to leave the show? Either way, can't wait for the next season.

  • March 21, 2012, 8:54 a.m. CST

    hey all you dr. who people

    by Thomas

    If I were thinking about starting in on watching the show, do I need to start from the very beginning? Or is there a point at which it is generally agreed to have gotten really good? I ask because starting at the start is a bit of an overwhelming task.

  • March 21, 2012, 8:57 a.m. CST

    MOV

    by HornOrSilk

    I would guess it wasn't intended, but when the news got leaked, it was best to go forward?

  • March 21, 2012, 9:05 a.m. CST

    I always thought Dr Who was about MUCH more than wanking...

    by jimbojones123

    Sex obsessed needs are pathetic.

  • March 21, 2012, 9:10 a.m. CST

    Naggers_annoy_you:

    by Andy Dufresne

    Naggers, I was in the same boat. Intimidated by so much continuity when wanting to jump on board. I started with the 2005 revival with Christopher Ecclestone and it's served me really well.

  • March 21, 2012, 9:11 a.m. CST

    stale elvis

    by TinSpider

    Me too. The Mrs insists on watching Emmerdale and when she was on that, it made the experience much more enjoyable - especially the who lezzing off thing. Since the story broke the wife hasn't stopped taking the piss - asking if I'll be watching Who on my own with some baby oil and a box of tissues. I think I will.

  • March 21, 2012, 9:15 a.m. CST

    Come on.....another girl!

    by whatevillurks

  • March 21, 2012, 9:21 a.m. CST

    New cute companion, new Weeping Angels story - good news to wake up to!

    by sunspot_mike

    I'm gonna miss Amy Pond though, she really has become my favorite companion since Leela (even though I did love Rose.) Anyway, those little spoilers just gave me an appetite for some new Who. I can't believe we're already gonna be on Season 7 since the show restarted. It's a testament to the concept as well as the writers that we're all still excited, there's nothing tired about it! How many other shows in their 7th year (never mind their 30th!) are still this rocking?!?

  • March 21, 2012, 9:22 a.m. CST

    Delighted

    by Ken Plume

    Can't wait to see the adventures with the new TARDIS resident. Getting a bit of a lovely Ace vibe.

  • March 21, 2012, 9:24 a.m. CST

    Always thought she'd go on to bigger things

    by alan_poon

    JLC might be bigger than your average skinny American actress but she's got charm in bucketloads. I tuned out of Dr Who after the McCoy years but she might be enough to make mehave another look see.

  • March 21, 2012, 9:25 a.m. CST

    Does somebody have a link to something else she did

    by Himbo

    Video #2, I could not hear clearly. Video #1, I could not stand to listen to, as it was monstrous. Was happy to see BBC twitter say that she D/N have a twitter stream, and to be aware of impostors. I think Matt's Doctor could use a full male companion. Rory is a good character, but is really just an accessory to Amy Pond.

  • March 21, 2012, 9:33 a.m. CST

    Any chance of the words FRIDAY DOCKBACK RULES APPLY

    by notspock2

    making an appearance? A new companion? well, I love Amy and Rory and will be sad to see them go, but this show thrives on change, and if it's time to change, then it's time to change. Smith isn't suddenly going to become a crappy doctor and Moffat isn't going to suddenly forget decades of writing experience and become a crappy show runner, so yeah, despite my emotional attachments to the characters, in a years time, i'll be saying that this was a good thing. And if I know i am going to say it in a years time, I might as well say it now. This is a Good thing.

  • March 21, 2012, 9:37 a.m. CST

    tinspider

    by Stale Elvis

    Ditto on the Emmerdale thing - my missus watches it and I never pay attention - except when JLC was on - always one eye on my PC one eye on JLC - missus never got onto it. The current lezes on Emmerdale are woeful.

  • March 21, 2012, 9:37 a.m. CST

    merrick

    by gotilk

    You're the BEST!

  • March 21, 2012, 9:40 a.m. CST

    himbo

    by Stale Elvis

    The Doctor will never have a single male companion travelling alone with him - too many things can and will be read into it. Even the 4th Doctor's relationship with Adric would never stand up to todays PC litmus test - too many people would complain about child abduction etc...

  • March 21, 2012, 9:40 a.m. CST

    bollocks

    by Stale Elvis

    ...the 5th Doctor's relationship with Adric...

  • March 21, 2012, 9:52 a.m. CST

    I Strongly Recommend The AICN Extra Stuff Mod

    by CHRISTIAN_BALE_TRASHED_MY_LIGHTS

    http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/92278 I already have Creepythinman on ignore and you can do the same to people like harryknowlesnothingaboutfilm too if he annoys you. I also have Man Of Virtue on highlight so I can always see his posts. It also makes Merrick's TB posts pink (and all the other AICN staff too) as well as reducing the number of posts in a large talkback (making it easier to load) and making links in posts clickable. Give it a try!

  • March 21, 2012, 9:59 a.m. CST

    So many people annoy me I don't know why I bother with this place.

    by harryknowlesnothingaboutfilm

  • March 21, 2012, 10:04 a.m. CST

    Oh, and a side note

    by HornOrSilk

    Though I am sure the story will be interesting in itself (who knows, she might be the best Romana of them all, though I doubt it), I do wish that the companion didn't have to be the point of mystery all the time. I think working on the Doctor's mystery for the next two years, bringing his story full focus, would be best, but that's me. Again, it is not saying I won't enjoy what is done, just wishing that this "mystery companion" aspect was given a break for now.

  • March 21, 2012, 10:05 a.m. CST

    I strongly recommend you take that pole out of your keister

    by harryknowlesnothingaboutfilm

  • March 21, 2012, 10:07 a.m. CST

    Katie Jarvis would've made a good companion

    by Cobb05

    Watch the movie Fish Tank and see how cool she would be on Doctor Who. Matt Smith is a good Doctor, but he's not that intimidating. Putting him with a companion who is tough and can stand up for herself would really be a nice dynamic.

  • Great- now we'll have 2 British twits talking fast to compensate for no acting skills. Rendering all their dialog meaningless and unemotional I thoght I had seen the worst portrayal of Dr. Who, until Matt Smith turned up- boy was I wrong. Nice tits though. On the new chick too. Somenoe n eeds to admit that she was hired for her tits, not good looks or wit.

  • March 21, 2012, 10:11 a.m. CST

    mcgootoo

    by Stale Elvis

    Not good looking? Are you fucking blind my friend?

  • I'd fuck her- once - just to relax her - to fuck the *too fast* out of her for the rest of her life so she can slow down and be understood http://www.google.com/search?q=Jenna-Louise+Coleman+photos&hl=en&rlz=1T4ADBF_enUS278US279&prmd=imvnsuo&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=xe9pT8ZZ5LfQAfHHxPEI&ved=0CCQQsAQ&biw=1024&bih=545

  • March 21, 2012, 10:23 a.m. CST

    Brit Selenaa Gomez smile? Yes?

    by Michael Lunney

    http://tinyurl.com/6pus88y

  • March 21, 2012, 10:23 a.m. CST

    never...

    by Stale Elvis

    ...actually kissed a girl have you?

  • March 21, 2012, 10:25 a.m. CST

    Stale Elvis

    by Himbo

    Yes, I see what you mean. I don't mean ONLY a male companion, just a fully realized one. they are getting closer with Rory, but he has always been an accessory. I thought that Captain Jack w/ Drs. 9 - 10 was close-ish. I guess I just really miss the Brigadier, and the Unit guys that ran around with the Doctor and respected him, but the respect ran both ways. The Doctor looked at them as different professionals... NuWho has him regarding Rory as Amy's pet.

  • March 21, 2012, 10:27 a.m. CST

    hornorsilk - re: leak

    by Mister Vertue

    That's exactly how it transpired. It was getting announced on Saturday anyway, so it wasn't *too* big a deal in the end. Feel free to send your thanks to The Mirror newspaper for ruining it for everyone...

  • March 21, 2012, 10:29 a.m. CST

    himbo

    by Stale Elvis

    I think his respect for Rory has grown over the series - If anything I think the Doc sees the two of them (Rory & Amy) as a single unit where it initially started out as just Amy - the Doc is aware the he's the third person in the Amy/Rory relationship and Rory's certainly told the Doctor to back the fuck off in the past - The Doc respects that. Or I'm just reading too much into it.

  • March 21, 2012, 10:34 a.m. CST

    I was won over with the first pic

    by lordoftheschwing

    specifically the boobs

  • Then again, I found Valerie Bertinelli cute.

  • March 21, 2012, 10:44 a.m. CST

    Interesting note on the release of episodes

    by DoctorTom

    I'm not surprised that she's making her first appearance in the Christmas episode. I suppose this means that the Ponds will be leaving in the last episode before Christmas, or during Christmas itself (it depends on if Sir the Moff wants to give us all the heartbreak during Christmas, or do it before and give us a joyous celebration of a new companion at Christmas - I suppose the latter). I was surprised to see that there will only be 5 regular plus the Christmas episode this year, with 8 in 2013 (plus anything they film after this season that shows at the end of 2013). I thought they might to do 6 + Christmas this year and 7 next year. Of course, this means that they can do a bare bones DVD release of the 4 regular episodes at the end of this year on one disc just in time for Christmas if they start showing episodes by the end of October, and the Christmas episode plus any appropriate bonuses as a single disc in January or February. I wonder if the number of episodes this year was determined at all by what they could do for DVD packaging (by this I would think it would be BBC higher-ups suggesting to Moff to try to do that number for the DVDs)

  • March 21, 2012, 11:05 a.m. CST

    MOV thanks -- it is what I thought

    by HornOrSilk

    But still, though not a big jump, still I can understand disappointment that it was done.

  • March 21, 2012, 11:20 a.m. CST

    Cuteness

    by HornOrSilk

    Ok, I'm not one who thinks cuteness is a high need for companion (it has a place, but it is not to me, the main place), but I would say I think Jenna-Louise is the cutest of the new companions (not for shape, but for face and looks). Yes, I am one who generally finds brunettes cuter (but it is not a requirement, and I know some who exceed my general cuteness level who contradict my norms). So stop dissing her (if you are) just because of looks. If not you "type" fine, but wait to see her character. To me, that is the most important thing.

  • March 21, 2012, 11:24 a.m. CST

    naggers_annoy_you - where to start watching Doctor Who

    by DoctorTom

    A lot of people started with the 2005 season (the one released as Season 1) with Christopher Eccleston. Some people, such as Merrick, started with the beginning of Season 5 - the first appearance of Matt Smith - and have done fine. If you start there, you'll want to dip back for a couple of things earlier than that before Season 6 (most notably, the Moffat stories in Season 3 and Season 4 - River Song was introduced in Season 4 and shows up a lot after that). You might try going with Season 5 first and filling in with earlier seasons if what you see interests you.

  • March 21, 2012, 11:34 a.m. CST

    hornorsilk - dissing

    by Mister Vertue

    I think your words will fall on deaf ears as regular Docback rules are not applicable here, which is a great shame. Makes you appreciate just how many morons are kept quiet by the usual Friday rules. Sigh. Anyway, looking forward to the next couple of Docbacks in particular. Especially after the possible announcements we have coming to us this weekend via the official convention in Cardiff. We may have one or two things to discuss.

  • March 21, 2012, 11:35 a.m. CST

    Fingers crossed she's an alien

    by Fuck The Napkin

    Or from the past or future. Anywhere but modern-day Britain... Would be good to have the dynamic everyone's become used to since 2005 shaken up a bit. But don't give her an Australian accent!

  • March 21, 2012, 11:36 a.m. CST

    Correction on the note on the release of episodes

    by DoctorTom

    Must be the sinus medicine - there's 5 normal plus 1 Christmas episode - that would have to be 2 discs, not one. On the bright side, they could put in some bonus features if they want, they'll have room. If we're very lucky, they can get some of the footage for appearances of the cast on Craig Ferguson. Craig doing the Doctor Who theme deserves to be immortalized on DVD.

  • March 21, 2012, 11:38 a.m. CST

    f the napkin

    by DoctorTom

    I threw out a speculation on the regular Docback thread. It won't be what they do, but we can hope. They could make her from Galaxy 4 and was outcast because she's not a blonde. Then she could also have a pet Chumblie robot to bring on the TARDIS. The show needs to bring the Chumblies back.

  • March 21, 2012, 11:39 a.m. CST

    The Pond's exits

    by Celicynd

    ... wonder how someone is going to die. Weeping Angels don't kill, they just time-shift you... unless we're going to see them die of old age.

  • March 21, 2012, 11:39 a.m. CST

    fuck the napkin

    by Stale Elvis

    Agreed. Sick of the London/Cardiff-centric Earth girls. Old Who had campanions from across time and space - need to bring that dynamic back to it. I'd like JLC to be some sort of busty medieval maid. And yes I have thtought of this. A lot.

  • We're getting the Weeping Angels back for Rory and Amy's last story. In Blink, Weeping Angels would send people back in time. In The Eleventh Hour, the first time the Doctor notices Rory he sees Rory wearing a badge with the year 1990 on it, but for Amy's age to work out right that episode would have been set in 1996 - Rory wouldn't have been old enough to have had a badge in 1990. Unless the Weeping Angels send Rory back in time. Moffat did say that not everybody's making it out of the episode alive and he means it this time.

  • March 21, 2012, 11:45 a.m. CST

    @christian_bale_trashed_my_lights

    by rakesh patel

    script doesn't seem to work in chrome, i log in using my twitter account, cant expand any of the comments.

  • March 21, 2012, 11:46 a.m. CST

    First impressions

    by Dreamfasting

    Yikes ... I got about 5 seconds into the first video and closed it, knowing that is *not* the sort of topic that I want to be watching to get my first impression of the actress :( But she looks sharp, good range, cute little frown - seems like she'll do well. ( in hindsight, I guess I took that Sophia Myles rumour a bit too easily at face value. Shame on me )

  • March 21, 2012, 11:54 a.m. CST

    @andy dufresne and @doctortom

    by Thomas

    Thanks guys! I do appreciate it.

  • March 21, 2012, 12:05 p.m. CST

    Anyone wanting to see more pics of JLS (not the band)

    by LordPorkington

    http://www.emmerdale.tartydoris.com/gallery_jenna_coleman1.htm There's about a million of them here. Bet her online stalker is well pleased with her casting.

  • March 21, 2012, 12:27 p.m. CST

    Karen Gillan had something..

    by higgledyhiggles

    not the best writing behind her. there never is for the girls. they are always feisty modern proactive women (spice girl ?) and it gets a little dull. Rory was great, with all his insecurities and fears you felt he was a well rounded character. Gillan is/was given too many soundbites confident woman dialog to the point you feel she`s a caricature with no depth. Still a fan though. don`t panic.

  • March 21, 2012, 12:32 p.m. CST

    No Love for new Dirk Gently series ?

    by higgledyhiggles

    Not bad at all.. Not sure how `Douglas Adamsy` it is as I can`t remember much about reading the books.

  • March 21, 2012, 12:34 p.m. CST

    So man_of_vertue was wrong

    by supertoyslast

    http://www.aintitcool.com/node/51306 <<In the calendar year of 2012, which runs from January 2012 to December 2012, we will see a *FULL* series of Doctor Who. I haven't a clue where people are getting the notion that series 7 will start in 2012 and end in 2013. That just isn't the case.>> I really hoped he was right when he said that. Ah, well.

  • March 21, 2012, 12:36 p.m. CST

    Weeping Angels

    by Fuck The Napkin

    My first thought was that they would be used here to get rid of Amy/Rory in a non-lethal way, but in the Crash of the Byzantium story they had evolved to snap people's necks instead of zap them back in time (which I was sad about). So maybe we go back to the old Angels with the time-zap-attack and that's where they go... although could that really count as a write-out for a time-travelling series? To be honest though, I'd love to see Amy's neck snapped. Apart from Eleventh Hour, where I was all excited and thought she was a brilliant addition to the series, I've never been convinced of her value. A good crunching neck-snap would complete her story arc nicely for me.

  • March 21, 2012, 12:51 p.m. CST

    It's all good...

    by Andy Buckle

    While I'll be very sad to see the Ponds go, change has always been a part of the show's DNA. Jenna-Louise is certainly easy on the eye! Don't watch Emmerdale, but having read a bit about her time on that show, I kinda wish I had. With all the tantalising snippets of info floating round I can't wait to see what the new season brings. I'm also getting ridiculously excited about the coming weekend. Tardis Tour on Saturday, followed by the official convention on Sunday. Happy days!

  • March 21, 2012, 12:53 p.m. CST

    CTM, I too am frustrated with Moffat's work as show runner but...

    by YackBacker

    That's the guy who wrote "Blink." He possesses brilliance.

  • March 21, 2012, 12:53 p.m. CST

    Eh. It should have been an old person

    by happybunni

    I know it's hard to decide to write for someone who can't do a bunch of action, but I think an old person would make this funnier than ever.

  • March 21, 2012, 12:56 p.m. CST

    supertoyslast - egg on my face

    by Mister Vertue

    I really hoped to be right when I said that too, but it turned out I was wrong and you were right. Such is life! Apologies all round.

  • March 21, 2012, 12:59 p.m. CST

    Supertoyslast - I bet you like to pick at your scabs

    by DoctorTom

    since you can't seem to let this rest. That thread is six months old. Why bother bringing it up at all?

  • March 21, 2012, 1:02 p.m. CST

    Unless Moffat pulls his finger out it won't make much difference.

    by Octavian

    As good as Matt Smith is he is being given nonsensical tripe to work with.

  • March 21, 2012, 1:11 p.m. CST

    Speaking of geeky BBC television shows...

    by Royston Lodge

    ...has AICN done any stories on the BBC's Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency tv show? It's damned good! It pretty much makes up for the not-so-good HHGTTG movie.

  • March 21, 2012, 1:11 p.m. CST

    Having the new companion can be all to the good.

    by DoctorTom

    Tom Baker had a popular companion, Sarah Jane leave (and, the two of them also had a male companion travelling around with them some of the time). She left, and who did we get after that? Leela. Another fantastic companion who was totally different than the previous companion. For that matter, after Leela we got Romana, who was completely different from Leela yet was a good companion (even more so with the Lalla Ward regeneration). After Adric had his accident parking a spaceship into a planet, who did we next get as a replacement male companion? Turlough - definitely a trade up in quality there. His best stories were his first story, Frontios and his last story - where they were actually writing for the character. In all these cases, it was a combination of the person and the writing for the character that made them popular. You can make a decision on the character just based on initial pictures (and, I'll grant you, a lot of people had a good reaction just based on an initial picture of Louise Jameson in her costume), but it's the writing and how the actor/actress handles the character that will matter. We'll see how Jenna-Louise does, but I think we're in safe hands. After all, the person who picked her is the one who picked Matt Smith as the Doctor, and Karen Gillen as Amy, and Arthur Darvill as Rory (a major choice) and picked Cumberbatch and Freeman to star in Sherlock. I'd say there's a good track record so far.

  • March 21, 2012, 1:14 p.m. CST

    Royston lodge

    by DoctorTom

    no separate threads on Dirk Gently. Sometimes there will be a mention in a DocBack (the definite Who connections with Douglas Adams would allow for this, especially since his first book used parts of City of Death and Shada). There hasn't been too much comment, though. I haven't watched Monday's episode yet, but I liked the first two.

  • March 21, 2012, 1:15 p.m. CST

    To all the Docbackers sipping their teas with a pinkie sticking out

    by MediaGold

    Go fornicate yourselves. What a bunch of wussies.

  • March 21, 2012, 1:19 p.m. CST

    Thanks doctortom.

    by Royston Lodge

  • March 21, 2012, 1:20 p.m. CST

    Hopefully they'll make her an American

    by MediaGold

    with a shitty accent to complete the redux Peri vibe she has going on. Oh, and we NEED a bikini shot, Moffat. Today's geeks entering puberty and pervy dorks in their 40s demand it.

  • It cuts down on senseless flamebait posts.

  • March 21, 2012, 1:30 p.m. CST

    RORY MUST DIE

    by FeralAngel

    What a freaking wet blanket he is. Maybe he finally buys it and the Doc deals with Amy's broken heart by taking her back before she meets and falls in love with the doof so she'll have no memory and can be happy. Pity though. I though Karen was smashing. This new girl might be good too, but her black hair and pudgy face makes me think of Selena Gomez. Gah.

  • March 21, 2012, 1:39 p.m. CST

    Speaking of new companions...

    by Michael_Jacksons_Ghost

    I wonder what would be the chances of seeing Capt. Harkness come back?

  • March 21, 2012, 1:50 p.m. CST

    @creepythinmans-revenge WELL SAID 100%

    by KilliK

  • March 21, 2012, 1:56 p.m. CST

    Hey, no problem doctortom

    by MediaGold

    because there's a great difference between senseless flamebait posts and the senseless asskissing posts usually found in docbacks. Now kindly have that Dalek plunger removed from your rectum.

  • March 21, 2012, 1:57 p.m. CST

    I'm sipping my tea with my pinkie sticking out

    by donkey_lasher

    Behold my pinkie.

  • March 21, 2012, 2:16 p.m. CST

    They Should Have Gone With a Male Companion

    by Afzal

    And I dont mean that they insert a gay admirer of the Doctor..... Just a regular chap that is a solid companion for the Timelord.

  • Mediagold has a problem differentiating between pinkies sticking out from a hand and Dalek plungers sticking out of a rectum, so I wanted to let you make it clear that it's your pinkie and your and, and not his other choice. Mediagold - you obviously either don't read the Docbacks or have comprehension problems if you think the post there are usually senseless asskissing posts. But, the posts aren't the waste of bandwidth that there is dealing with you. So, other than the snarky comments about needing a bikini shot and insulting the regular Docbackers, do you actually have anything constructive to add to the conversation here, or are you just trying to get a flame war started so that Merrick can ban you?

  • If they could get James Cordon for a longer period of time, it wouldn't surprise me if Craig got to travel on the TARDIS for a few adventures. Even better if they could get Stormageddon along for one of the trips, and have the TARDIS translate his speech for everyone. I'd go for the suggestion in an earlier DocBack that they get Ian McKellen or someone with a voice like that to do the voice for Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All.

  • March 21, 2012, 2:45 p.m. CST

    that should be "soon"

    by DoctorTom

    typing malfunction trying to change "sometime" to "soon", and an experiment here to see if it gives me all the quotation marks. If this sentence is still here, then for some reason the quotes started working for me again.

  • March 21, 2012, 2:46 p.m. CST

    sweet looking kid.

    by AsimovLives

    i'll miss Karen Gillam, though. Can't both be in the show? and become lovers?

  • Sweet, I'll have to grab it. I haven't read the book in over 20 years, but I remember enjoying it a lot (probably because it was originally a Doctor Who script!) And though I usually enjoy the flamewars in the other talkbacks (probably because I just watch and don't participate) I'm too sensitive about the Doctor to hear you assholes rip into it. We kept the fire burning brightly for years when everybody thought it was deader than disco and now it's bigger than it's ever been. Other shows might have a bigger budget, but Doctor Who is the gold standard of geek television right now. There's no genre show on that's more respected.

  • March 21, 2012, 2:56 p.m. CST

    Stormageddon box = Stormageddon vox

    by sunspot_mike

    It's not an AICN talkback unless someone complains about the lack of an edit function!

  • March 21, 2012, 3:03 p.m. CST

    Sunspot Mike - Dirk Gently

    by DoctorTom

    the third and last episode of the season showed in the UK Monday. The season (plus the pilot) comes out on DVD in the UK next Monday. If you have an NTSC/PAL dual DVD player you might want to look into buying it when it comes out (I have it pre-ordered from Amazon UK).

  • March 21, 2012, 3:17 p.m. CST

    re: "This isn't a school playground filled with 6 year old children."

    by buggerbugger

    But 'Doctor Who' is for children, according to Moffat...

  • March 21, 2012, 4:05 p.m. CST

    DR WHO IS FOR CHILDREN.

    by KilliK

    IT ALWAYS WAS.

  • March 21, 2012, 4:18 p.m. CST

    She seems nice..

    by steverogers5

    And from what I've seen of her, she's not a bad actress too. Good luck to her! I hope she has fun in the role!

  • By the time the doctors realized what it was it was basically everywhere. When this family member was given the news (I ain't sayin who because of the multitude of trolls here) this family member said something that 1) made my heart ache and still does and 2) made me wish The Doctor was real. Not to save my beloved family member, but, if he were real, to take this family member along on the Tardis, about 20 years into the future, to see what my family member knew they would not live to see.

  • March 21, 2012, 4:57 p.m. CST

    A show for children

    by Dreamfasting

    It's ok, I never grew up. Ask anyone.

  • ...will they do it in original weeping angel style. Send them out of their timeline to live until they die? I missed that when they showed up again for 11.

  • March 21, 2012, 5 p.m. CST

    Dreamfasting - I always liked using the Tom Baker quote

    by DoctorTom

    What's the point in growing up if you can't act childish sometimes?

  • March 21, 2012, 5:05 p.m. CST

    She looks 12 years old!

    by ToughGuyRizzo

    wtf?

  • March 21, 2012, 5:07 p.m. CST

    the next co-pilot

    by bongo dummy

    I've watched Who going back to Baker's time. The companion's all seemed good enough. So, I can't really see the next one being bad or horrible. It also doesn't seem like it matters how the person looks. Since the revamp of the series I think the only thing that matters is that the companion calls the Doctor on his BS. As long as The Doctor is checked when necessary, and as long as there are no K9-like space Roombas moving at a waltzy beat, I'm sure the show's near future won't suffer from a new companion. ...................... Oh yeah. Gotlik...apologies for using the E word to describe that actor from that movie "Dummy." And for following it up with a needling of the actor and the movie. His name escaped me at the time and I defaulted to the lingo that some AICNers seem to best understand.

  • March 21, 2012, 5:20 p.m. CST

    Creepythinman & Octavian – totally agree.......

    by CloneRanger

    ....while Moff has had to tailor the shows format to grab the U.S. audience, he seems to have lost sight of what made the original era so great. I was not a big fan of RTD era Who, but the Moff era has made me appreciate RTD’s tenure a whole lot more (something I never thought I’d hear myself say) for at least trying to emulate the feel of the originals format. Now it’s turned to some weird fantasy show that isn’t the Doctor Who I knew and loved growing up. Actually re-watching the McGann movie made me realise that this was the template for Nu-Who, glossy production values, but a compressed timeframe that gave rise to nonsensical plot/incoherent story (isn’t this a kids show after all?) and lack focus on any/much actual character development (especially for the supporting cast members, making it harder for the audience to care when/if they met a sticky end). As the mighty Phillip Hinchcliffe says on the Face of Evil’s DVD commentary – Nu-Who 2-parters work the best and I agree, that is the equivalent running time of an old 4-parter, enough time to tell a decent story and not outstay it’s welcome. During the RTD era Moff’s stories shined (especially over RTD’s stories), but now he has control of the reigns he appears to have got drunk on his own success and is always seemingly oh so smug about the slightest little tidbit, which usually ends up being a massive anti-climax. The first 2 or 3 eps of Series 5 weren’t that bad (the 11th hour was actually quite impressive), but it was all downhill from there, the rest were just meh and the least said about Series 6 and the Xmas specials the better (what’s the flying through space with no spacesuit on, plus the make a wish and so he shall appear BS all about, WTF?!!) – there’s just no re-watch value in them at all, instantly forgettable. The staple of Moff Who seems to be unnecessarily convoluted plotting which ends up leading to a pretty straightforward/predictable resolution, irrelevant nods to the classic era thrown in to please the old school (how/what the hell did those goons in the last xmas special have to do with Androzani in anything but name only?!) and cop-out OTT finales (although RTD was guilty of that a few times too) - whether it be the ultimate reset button (Big Bang 2) or faking your own death (lamely I might add after a whole series of build up). Also why has everything have to revolve around the companion in Nu-Who anyway?? They were supposed to be the audiences eyes and ears. Also why is always some young girl from earth all the time?! Why can’t we have more Leela/Turlough/Kamelion types – something a bit different! So why can't The Doctor simply land in a situation, investigate what’s going on and attempt to resolve it like he used to? I always likened the Doctor to a Sci-Fi version of Sherlock Holmes anyway with an interchangeable Watson, now Who is more like Harry Potter with a bunch of kids running around and the main character waving his magic wand about all the time! lt just seems that with quick utterance of ‘Plotus Implausabilitus’ (tm!) – everything is wiped away and back to normal again, without any real consequence or much reference to in later episodes. What also bugs me is the way Moff tries to be clever at classic Who’s expense – the Timecrash line about the 5th doctor wearing glasses just for show really peed me off, plus the lame throwaway lines about the supposed Tardis handbrake and ‘Pull to open’ (that’s the door for the phone dummy, not the main 1doors!) - I appreciate Gaiman wrote that last one, but it still would have had to go through Moff for final approval. Although a bit young, I do find Matt Smith a terrific Doctor with lots of little eccentricities, nuances and quirks – I liken him to Colin Baker in that he was never given a chance to fully shine as he was hampered by mostly god-awful scripts. I felt C Baker had a quite a bit of potential – it’s just a shame that his full second series was canned in favour of the tepid and terrible Trial of a Timelord, as I think people would have seen more what he had to offer, had the timeline run a different course....but I digress, I just feel Smith is so much better than the half-baked plots that he is served. The era I grew up in was really a Pertwee, T Baker & Davison, although I have been revisiting the adventures of all the original 7 Doctors (I find McGann a bit of ‘limbo’ incarnation and where the rot set in tampering with established continuity) - anyway I am not the only person with these views in relation to Moff-era Who, several people I know have been turned off of the latest era/incarnation of Who, who weren’t even that much into the classics but watched RTD Who on a regular basis. The only good thing about Nu-Who I can say generally is that it has re-ignited my love for the original series and & thanks to the DVDs revisit old stories I had forgotten about & discover gems I had never seen before, where an engaging story with interesting characters eclipses any budgetary constraints. Sorry about the rant, but this has been building up for a long time and just felt I had to get it off my chest! With every series that goes by, my anticipation for the next series diminishes – I am trying to get excited for the 50th anniversary, but dread it at the same time based on Moff’s current form.....

  • March 21, 2012, 5:31 p.m. CST

    Could she be a young River Song?

    by mistergreen

  • March 21, 2012, 5:48 p.m. CST

    Should've gotten rid of Matt Smith, instead.

    by Bedknobs and Boomsticks

    Anyhow, hopefully she follows in Piper's footsteps and does a call-girl show.

  • March 21, 2012, 5:49 p.m. CST

    Gillan, that is.

    by Bedknobs and Boomsticks

  • March 21, 2012, 6:26 p.m. CST

    12 years old ?

    by dj_bollocks

    I think not... http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/03/21/doctor-who-companion/

  • March 21, 2012, 7:11 p.m. CST

    I love Amy Pond

    by maelstrom_ZERO

    And not in the closeted nerd, dark sexual fantasy-ish kind of way, although I can't say that I don't. I just really admire her character. Out of all the companions since the 2005 reboot, I find Pond to be the best. She's brilliantly clever, completely confident, and hardly overshadowed by the sheer dominance of the character of the Doctor. A lot of the other companions ended up orbiting around Eccleston/Tennant (whether due to love interest or just being 2 dimensional or underwritten), but Pond feels like a very real, vibrant character on her own. It helped that her backstory was brilliantly delivered in the 11th Hour as well, which created a really emotional history. And it also helps that Karen Gillan is a hottie. And I say that with the utmost respect.

  • March 21, 2012, 7:39 p.m. CST

    companions just a soundboard for the doctor

    by Mick

    Sure they can be spunky and clever but in the end they are all up his backside. How about a companion who hates aliens. Who's lost family to them. Who doesn't just go gooey and acts like some tourist on every planet going ooh and aah. Maybe a companion with a vendetta against the doctor but who's clever enough to conceal it. Have him played by Bernard Hill.

  • It was announced that there would be six episodes from Doctor Who's season seven that'll air this year—including the Christmas special—with the remaining eight to be shown the following year. Coleman's character will be introduced during the Christmas special. (Oh God, does that mean we have to wait until November for new Who?)

  • I've come to understand that Russell Davies was not the best original scriptwriter for this type of series, his strengths lie elsewhere, but he was a superior show runner to the current guy. So much so that I wonder how much he revised the best scripts that were written on his watch. I found his own stories lacking and don't think he did all he might have done with the seasonal arcs, but in terms of running a tight ship on the stand alone episodes, I think his strength was editing other people's ideas and delivering a stronger finished product that they, or he, could do alone. Seriously, is nobody suspicious why Moffatt can't produce the goods he did five years ago? Somebody mentioned Star Trek above, but I always reckon the template for the reboot has always been Buffy. That's the single biggest influence on the style of dialogue, the tone, and the loose season arcs. With the switch to 45 minute episodes it was a shrewd choice. I just think genre fiction wasn't Davies's bag.

  • March 21, 2012, 9:19 p.m. CST

    Erm... what happened to Sophia Myles?

    by Rendell

    David Tennant's ex no less! Lucky bastard.

  • March 21, 2012, 11:02 p.m. CST

    Yeah, Doctor Who's a children show. So what?

    by elgato73

    I was eight or nine when I started watching it and I'm 39 now. Its a children's show that happens to also masquerade as a clever all ages science fiction series and have themes that only adults would pick up on. At the end of the day, this is a children's show that appeals to the kid in all of us but also touch the heart and mind's of anyone at any age. Isn't that what great SF is supposed to do?

  • March 21, 2012, 11:28 p.m. CST

    For those asking for a male companion ...

    by DrMorbius

    no problem with that, as long as we would then get a female Doctor!

  • March 22, 2012, 12:10 a.m. CST

    Sophia Myles was rumored as a possible female Doctor.

    by Bedknobs and Boomsticks

    I don't see that happening. Especially since they keep skewing younger.

  • March 22, 2012, 4:52 a.m. CST

    Moffat's plots and pacing DO feel a bit rushed

    by tangcameo

    Like when you do your book report the night before when you've had weeks or months to do it and you haven't read the whole thing and you ramble on to fill in the plot holes in your report (ie me, Grade 7, Murder On The Orient Express - luckily the teacher hadn't read it and I said it was the colonel who did it). I get the feeling he's concentrating more on other things *cough*Sherlock*cough* and he considers DW to be a pain-in-the-ass obligation.

  • March 22, 2012, 6:06 a.m. CST

    re: "DR WHO IS FOR CHILDREN. IT ALWAYS WAS."

    by buggerbugger

    'Doctor Who' was never exclusively for children, it was for the **entire family**. If it were a children's series, it would have been broadcast in the same hours as all of the BBC's other children's series, which it never was. They even made a point of creating 'The Sarah Jane Adventures' and broadcast it with the other BBC children's series because it was aimed at children rather than families.

  • That doesn't help explain why 'Sherlock' is such a shitty mess, though. Maybe he's concentrating on something other than 'Sherlock', too?

  • March 22, 2012, 7:10 a.m. CST

    Actually it's all four.

    by veteran_of_mu

    DW is a kid's show. And an adult's show. It's like pop-rocks. Fun for kids. Different kind of fun for adults. And it's both an amazing show and a crappy show - depending on who you are. If it fits your tastes it's amazing. Otherwise, the opposite. No big deal, plenty of other stuff on offer for other tastes, good luck to you and your Saw movies. Now back to the subject of the new tottie - that is indeed a zaftig. Curves in places where Gilllan doesn't even have places. Smart as a whip, bright as a penny, and judging by the videos above with courage and range too. Class all the way. As for the reveal that we're back in half-the-number-of-episodes land ... bugger. MOV's homophone deserves spanking. I mean, yeah, I understand it. But if you're going to do it like that, just say it, don't beat about the garden path. I mean I have to reset the expectations of my children. There will be toys hitting walls, tear-stained pillows, and questions about the reality of Santa Claus. And then I'll have to tell the kids like I said. As to the end of the Ponds ... misdirection about Angels isn't going to wash, young MOV. It's Rory. In the swimming pool. With two hearts. You want to convince me otherwise, you'll need some real spoilers.

  • March 22, 2012, 9:01 a.m. CST

    Moffat 'making it up as he goes along'

    by Mister Vertue

    That just about sums up the level of intelligence on display by the vast majority of people on this Talkback. Not much else needs to be said after that.

  • March 22, 2012, 9:08 a.m. CST

    Moffats a 1 hit wonder

    by spike fan

    And Karen Gillan was to him what Saint Billy of Piper was to Rusty. People are praising him for the weeping Angel episode back in Tennants era which he is now dragging out again and again for gods sake Hell you look at his episodes back from the Ecclestone era and his episode with Madam Pompadour and they they are very similar. Just look at the whole christmas special where Dr Who does Narnia !!!!!! The whole Riversong regeneration thing was utterly pointless and worse stupid. While the new Ipod-Daleks urghh. He pisses all over established charachters archs etc in favour of wonder Pond and co. The scene where River Song has a Dalek begging for mercy was a case in point. Will say this Matt Smith is an excellent Dr but has had some real shit material to get through Here is an idea why not bring back a new younger version of the Master as he was always the Dr Who Moriarty to the Docs Sherlock and have him as the Docs prisoner/companion be a much more interesting dynamic as somone who the Doc likes and understands him but somone who is a danger and could/would kill the Doc the 2nd he got free.

  • March 22, 2012, 9:17 a.m. CST

    i agree spike fan..... except

    by Mick

    Have him as a older gent. And played by Bernard Hill.

  • March 22, 2012, 10:08 a.m. CST

    scratchmonkey - Sherlock is such a shitty mess?

    by irishraidersfan

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA! What's the matter - do they talk too fast for you? Not Michael Bay enough? There, there - go watch some Murder She Wrote - if that's not too advanced for you. Clown.

  • Like the debate about whether Doctor Who is a kid's show or the new companion's body or the ridiculous RTD vs. Moff debate (you think Barry Letts and Phillip Hinchcliffe ever had that problem at conventions?) It's just the same old stuff from non-fans that feel compelled to talk shit. Not that we shouldn't pay attention to non-fans (I think JNT learned that lesson the hard way), but there be trolls outside the Docback so this is what we get. I can see people not enjoying Doctor Who because of the fantastical/sci-fi elements, but I challenge them to find a more genre show on with better lines. Seriously. I love Fringe to death but outside of a few John Noble zingers every week, there's nothing compared to pace of the delivery and dialogue of Doctor Who. And these story arcs are really working for me because I like the "big" moments like discovering how The Doctor died to Ganger Amy to finding out what the cracks in the universe are - but I always preferred show mythology episodes whether it was The X-FIles or LOST. So, I guess YMMV.

  • March 22, 2012, 11:36 a.m. CST

    MOV

    by DoctorTom

    I think the comments about Moffat making it up as he goes along, not being able to produce any good Who (ignoring The Pandorica Opens/The Big Bang, The Wedding of River Song, AGMGTW - let along showrunning and bringing in stories like Vincent and the Doctor, The Doctor's Wife, The Girl Who Waited and The God Complex), and comments like Sherlock being a shitty mess only show that this thread has somehow connected to people watching the shows in the Bizarro universe and not the real world.

  • Trolls. Seriously, you must try harder- You want to make us bite? you have to play the long game.. You need to sound much more reasonable for much longer before you twist the knife.

  • March 22, 2012, 1:40 p.m. CST

    Criticisms of the arc

    by Dreamfasting

    I think part of the problem is that we don't know if he had a multiyear plan or not. Moffat's standalone stories have a characteristic tone, a way that they sprinkle random-looking plot hooks all over the place and then pulls them all together at the end in a way that shows he really had plan all along. There's honesty about the foreshadowing that creates enormously satisfying payoffs in the end. You reach the conclusion feeling that everything was drawing you there. At about the half-way mark in any Moffat story, there's a sort of anxiety in the viewer, a suspicion that there's something going on but not yet enough puzzle pieces to see the whole picture. Think back to the talkback for Silence in the Library - there were a lot of people unhappy because it wasn't yet clear where all these wierd threads were leading, but in the end everything pays off spectacularly. The criticisms I see of Moffat's tenure so far are almost exactly the same as the criticisms at the midpoint of that story. What we're seeing is Moffat writing on a huge scale - not only stories, but stories within a season arc and perhaps even seasons with an even more epic arc. That characteristic tone of his writing is there in overlapping octaves - story clues intermingled with season clues intermingled with clues that don't set fit in anywhere. My plot-ear hears a multi-year arc. Are we really going to find out why the Tardis was manipulated into exploding in season 5? Will we learn what the Doctor whispers in River's ear in "Let's Kill Hitler" to make her flip from psychotic killer to selfless self-sacrifice? Is there a different angle on this "endless bitter war" with the Silence that is yet to be revealed? Why didn't Amy remember the Daleks? If this is really all part of a huge setup, the payoff would be astonishing. But it's entirely possible people like myself have simply gone off the deep end over-anticipating and connecting random dots into constellations. When Moffat throws out lines like "What are the Silence?" or "Doctor WHO?!" at the end of a series, are these really part of an intricate master plan or a writer cleverly tossing up a pitch to swing at when he sits down to work on the next series?

  • March 22, 2012, 4:07 p.m. CST

    @Dreamfasting - serious for a moment

    by veteran_of_mu

    Whatever his ability to follow through, Moffatt's intent cannot be to do a disservice to the show. Such an intent would oppose everything we know about his character and strength of will. That leaves us with just 2 alternatives. Either he's faffing about on plot and just trusting his own quite remarkable ability to pull it all together in the end - running on dream. Or he's got the big ~Future History~ style master plan for his universe plastered on the wall of his den and while he may throw in a tawdry quirk from time to time in general the plot is on rails. His episode plots show no sign of the faffing approach. There are never unintentional loose ends. His left brain is scrupulous. So ... trust the Moff. Even when he lies.

  • March 22, 2012, 4:26 p.m. CST

    "Making it up as you go along" is not a valid criticism

    by SiouxCitySarsaparilla

    I used to argue this in some of the more hysterical LOST talk backs. A good argument in favour can be found in those WGA lectures David Milch delivered during the writers' strike in 2007. He speaks wisely about the pitfalls of writing to a formula or an outline and the self-deception that can entail. Cut a long story short: to him writing fiction is an act of faith. You HAVE to make it up as you go along. My issue with Moffat is how glib and self-referential the characterisations have become. It's like being babysat by a clique of narcissistic sixth-form drama students who won't leave you alone. A secondary issue is the plot being splattered at the wall as we're cloyingly told how clever it all is in dialogue that thinks we owe it a favour. And tertiary to this is how derivative the architecture has become. Little effort is made to conceal the source material for the throwaway, hyperactive ideas, because really, the mythology is all a red-herring, a piece of stage-craft to obscure the truth that really where he's cribbing from is daytime soap operas. Don't get me wrong. There are stand-out episodes. If anything they throw into relief how wildly inconsistent this show has become, how naff the meta-narrative. The troubling aspect is these days the biggest turkeys appear to be the handiwork of the head honcho. It's not like his episodes are terrible. They contain strong possibilities. Somehow they deliver nothing. Maybe it's not that somebody else used to polish his episodes, he might have just stopped doing it himself. I can't speak to Sherlock, I've only seen one episode. It was the Scandal in Belgravia one, which to me was an absolute dog's dinner, but based on the show's reputation, I assume the quality is usually higher. Doctor Who remains fun, but it's nowhere near the calibre that LOST was. It has occasional episodes that approach that level, but can't sustain it. Obvious the Vincent Van Gogh episode, The Girl Who Waited, the Neil Gaiman script, those were excellent. I struggle to extend that compliment to much else. Except maybe Closing Time, I'm not sure that was a popular episode, but I felt it had a lot of heart and a deft touch.

  • March 22, 2012, 7:27 p.m. CST

    This chick is NO Amy Pond.

    by Cap'n Jack

  • March 22, 2012, 8:40 p.m. CST

    sunspot_mike

    by gotilk

    Well said.

  • March 22, 2012, 10:36 p.m. CST

    @siouxcitysarsaparilla - plan vs improvisation

    by Dreamfasting

    Perhaps I've spent too many hours of my life playing role-playing games over the years, but I find I am very sensistive to the "canon" of a fantasy world - the difference between writing that foreshadows events going on off-stage that will later intersect the story vs foreshadowing that is random stuff or retconned interpretations of past events. A show like Lost just drove me up the wall because the first couple of episodes hinted at this rich world the show was going to explore, but when I returned to it a few years later, it felt like the writers had no idea what was going on in their world - it was like watching a person caught in a lie desperately revising their story to hold it together.

  • March 22, 2012, 11:39 p.m. CST

    But it's all still fun

    by Dreamfasting

    ( in hindsight, I'm not sure that Doctor Who is really the most appropriate jumping off point for a quasi-serious commentary about the finer points of fantasy-world consistency - no offense intended to Lost-fans :) )

  • March 22, 2012, 11:49 p.m. CST

    Where to start Dr Who ..

    by alanl

    Start where I did. First episode - 1963 (and yes I did it _then_, but you are excused). The truly marvelous thing about the good Dr is the 50 year (+/- .. it missed a few years :)) more-or-less-consistent-and-never-less-than-entertaining arc. Indeed, to truly immerse yourself in the Hartnell-Troughton-Pertwee-Baker-Davison-Baker-McCoy-Eccleston-Tennant-Smith lineage must be one of the cheapest and greatest thrills in the universe. Yes it has always been low budget and it shows (until the latest and greatest, but the bar has been raised and even now some less that stellar SFX peek through -- but who really cares?). Some highlights ? -- In recent years I was ripped by the young Ms Amy Pond who finds herself aging rapidly in the wrong time stream abandoned by the Dr and her husband, and then is abandoned once more, by herself .... or, back a ways -- almost anything with Jon Pertwee and UNIT (who never took any of it seriously, and it shows) -- "Chappy with the wings - five rounds rapid!". Even further back absolutely anything with the immortal Patrick Troughton (if you can find them. The BBC recycled many of the video tapes -- "who would want to watch that again ??"). Or Michael Gough as the "Celestial Toymaker" matching wits with a doddering but awesome William Hartnell (again many episodes sadly lost). So, you owe it to yourself to make the investment in time and space (ha ! -- only 233 GB on my media server). Haul out the Brewskis, sit back, and really .. really ... enjoy.