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UPDATED W/ NEW INTERNATIONAL VERSION!! + HD OF YESTERDAY'S TRAILER!! Here's The New & Full PROMETHEUS Trailer!!
Merrick again, again....
Yesterday's new U.S. trailer is now available in magnificent HD HERE!
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Merrick again...
A reader named Andrew sent in this new international (UK) trailer for PROMETHEUS. Some of the material herein is the same as (or variations on) the fresh domestic trailer we got yesterday. Some of it, however, is quite different. Overall, the tone and approach of the trailer differs considerably from the U.S. version.
This damn movie is making me feel like Ned Beatty in DELIVERANCE right about now.
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Merrick here...
Earlier today I got a fist pump from Howard Stern at the America's Got Talent auditions in Austin (tremendous fun, by the way), and now comes this. How much coolness can a guy take in one day?
Longer than the trailer we got overnight, and more substantive to the now legendary first teaser. There's so much badassness here I don't even know where to start.
Here's a trailer for Ridley Scott's original 1979 film (ALIEN) for comparison. You'll see some conceits brilliantly carried over.
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No Predators, eh?
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i say again: wooo!
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Looks amazing. Confirms what I have read. I am beyond stoked for this one. A true vision by Ridley Scott. I haven't been this excited since "The Dark Knight"!
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Wow! The old honeypot trope. Get a civilization to destroy itself once it gets to the point it might be a threat to yours. In this case, invite them to a faraway planet in order to trigger a doomsday device. Same idea was in Sagan's Contact - send instructions on how to build an unknown device that might or might not destroy the planet. Been used many times before.
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seriously somebody get me some windex
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Seriously this trailer had it's tight grip on my balls the entire time. I'm throwing my money at the screen and nothing's happening! Give me the movie NOW!!!
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.....frak
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...depicted on the wall of the chamber.
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March 17, 2012, 7:05 p.m. CST
inb4 Ultratron makes a bid for Alien vs. Predator relevance in Prometheus
by reflecto
He fails in every thread. Great trailer
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i am psyched for this
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Be the exception.
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I've just decided I might not ever forgive you.
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But perhaps too revealing I fear!
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I should've left my laptop at home... My head hurts. I have to lie down...
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EPIC! If Robin Hood didnt suck as bad as it did, I would have no doubt that this is going to kick every movies ass this year. Please be good! Please!!!
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This trailer is just a ferverish gathering of how - espcially the last half through.
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March 17, 2012, 7:10 p.m. CST
Yup, very much looked like an Alien Queen on the wall ...
by GINGE_MUPPET
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You are owned.
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Very creepy indeed.
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This will be the movie to beat this summer--perhaps year. After stewing around in mediocrity for the past 30 years, Scott seems to have finally found a project he is passionate about. And when that happens, we get the finest cinema has to offer.
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Dude ... Dude? DUDE!
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definitely looks like an alien WTF is happening at about 16 seconds.. look at the back of the head.
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Really? Did you not see the shots confirming the biggest mystery in the Alien franchise is actually something else?
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...I'm still not impressed. Sure, the cinematography and cast look amazing. (Props to the casting of Idris Elba and Sean Harris.) However, I still fail to see anything of substance that convinces me that this will be something truly unique amongst the recent run of sci-fi films. It reeks of familiarity...and that's not something I want or expect from Sir Ridley's return to sci-fi filmmaking. I guess I'm still holding on hope though...
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this is DEFINITELY the one I want to see. Avengers and TDKR just got relegated.
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The trailer is a 'gathering awe' is what I meant to say ... I was so feverish myself I hunted and pecked the wrong keystrokes. Sir Ridley seems to be racheting it up here - that's what happens when a person cares about a project. We may have waited a long time - those of us alive - but it was probably good Ridley waited more than 20 years to return to the sci fi genre and didn't get involved in those earlier sequel efforts. Sometimes missed chances in the past are a good thing. In the Alien dvd collection, David Giler talks about a planet of the Alien - of the mystery of the space jocky. Giler winks and says he would not mind seeing Ridley do something like that ... I cannot remember when the original Alien dvd collection came out but it is was north of 2003 and south of 2007, I know that. I'm ziked on this one and fan outrage and fan oh's and awe's aren't going to ruin this I don't think. And do pray tell - it's a great bleepin movie!
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Hell, it's Saturday night ... I might even get some drive-thru for myself first.
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March 17, 2012, 7:17 p.m. CST
Stoked as ever. Alien, Aliens, Prometheus. The real trilogy is complete.
by Anti-fanboy
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March 17, 2012, 7:18 p.m. CST
Or Prometheus, Alien, Aliens, for you chronology freaks.
by Anti-fanboy
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We need to know how the whole trilogy plays out. So many questions left unanswered.
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It's not an actual Queen, but it's clearly a representation of one. A Giger-esque carving in the stone (or whatever the material is). You sneaky bastard, Ridley :)
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Ridley sitting calmly in the corner smoking a cigar watching the reaction of the audience as they watch his latest masterpiece with awe, fascination, and horror. The puppet master feels nothing, his work is complete. I so look forward to watching his latest work!
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March 17, 2012, 7:22 p.m. CST
BTW, re: the design, costumes, etc. Ridley was asked about this in the Q&A. Said the "used future" he created with Alien and BR is now played out. He wanted to do something new.
by reflecto
Plus, the Prometheus expedition is much more high-end and well-subsidized compared to the lowly Nostromo mining crew.
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would be if the jockey thing really was just the suit for the driver. And the "creators" were predators
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at around the 2.03 - 2.04 mark, where there is a person lying down in a tube thing, just in underwear.... above that person is some sort of creature suspended by pincers and is being swiveled around (you kinda have to watch it playing, you don't get a proper look if you just pause it, I found)... Looks a bit like a facehugger, it has a blob for a head and tentacle type things and it looks annoyed that it's being suspended...
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Kinda lame... I figured some features from the suit would represent his actual look...
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that doesnt look human. It seems to be the thing approaching the jockey chair a few seconds later Just WTF?!!!!!!!!
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An intergalactic alarm system? But in this case the welcoming visit will not be the Cosmic child...
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The same 'glyphs seen in diffenent cultures around the world. The giant 'pyramid' structure on the alien planet. The odd writing on the walls of the SJ pyramid/ship. The depiction of an ALIEN on the wall of same.
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Kinda lame... I always figured some features from the suit would have represented the actual look of him.
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The key to everything. He is an android, Man's creation as his own image. A biomechanical lifeform. Exposes himself to alien organisms. "Small things" as he points out. They change him into something else. Fassbender/David fuses into the Space Jockey chair. His "DNA" is replicated into the xenomorph eggs. Remember Ash as he examines the facehugger in the first movie? "It is silicon based..." he notes. Xenomorphs. Biomechanical/organic in nature. Hm, I wonder why?
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In the Q & A session tonight Sir Ridley said that there are some shock moments in Prometheus equal to the Chest burster scene in Alien. Can't wait!
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the interesting bit is how someone who knows Alien will perceive it and then how someone who doesn't will. If he is being fair then the Queen will not appear at all. Remember what seeing the queen did for us when we watched Aliens.. I dont think he'd ruin that. This will show Lucas how you do a prequel without screwing up the experience of the originals.
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March 17, 2012, 7:32 p.m. CST
hugh, the original Giger work from the 70s had a pyramid and glyphs. That's the inspiration, not AVP which ripped Giger off
by reflecto
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...that never got used in ALIEN, but seems to be getting another shot here.
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March 17, 2012, 7:34 p.m. CST
I wonder if this is from throughout the movie, or just the first half...
by Ice Paul
It seems we see a lot here, like the Prometheus being flown into the the alien ship and that ship crashing to the ground, which you'd think might be towards the end, but maybe they're saving loads of stuff and this all happens near the start?
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March 17, 2012, 7:37 p.m. CST
It looks like there's a lot of potential here, but the fact that it's hamstrung by being PG-13 is really squashing my enthusiasm.
by NeonFrisbee
There's only so far and so weird you can go with PG-13. You can still tell a compelling story, something cool, interesting, dark, but the darkness can only go so far. It's hobbled. I'm totally going to see it either way, but my expectations are considerably reduced (which is probably a good thing as a balm against disappointment).
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That is all so far. Must watch a gazillion more times.
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At last a real scifi movie bring on Rama and a Xeelee movie
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This is already my favorite movie.
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March 17, 2012, 7:40 p.m. CST
Great Trailer but it's Sci-fi and I'll give it 100 mil tops domestic. 200 plus if Fox had thrown Will Smith in there as the captain or in Fassbender's role.
by The Founder
Sorry but it's true. I have a good feeling about Prometheus but the audience isnt scifi geeks. This won't make beyond 110 mil domestically. I hope I'm wrong but it wont
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March 17, 2012, 7:40 p.m. CST
Did billy d post his spoilers,and if so what thread(old/new)?
by TheAwareness
Nice trailer,,i just want to know if the synopsis is real,,the more footage we see the more it seem like it may hav been on target(crew members turning into proto xenomorphs)
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Im sorry but watch the trailer at 1/4 speed and look carefully at the 'thing' moving about above Noomi's face at 2.03 - 2.05, and tell me that isn't a facehugger. Now whats the bet film ends with the alien queen bursting out of her chest. ...this is going to be soo AWESOME!!!
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March 17, 2012, 7:42 p.m. CST
CONFIRMED: The Space Jockey is actually Seth from Street Fighter 4.
by montessaurus
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Holy shit.
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March 17, 2012, 7:46 p.m. CST
Yes. Pure badassery. I want to know what the deal is with that saucer type ship (not the derelict) hovering above that humanoid who is transforming at the beginning of the trailer.
by Cureguy
I liked hearing some guy yell "Cut it off!, Cut IT off!" Noomi Rapace oozing some black tar like substance. Those red flash tracking balls are awesome. I want some of those. Wow. What a mind blowing trailer.
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...the entire vibe is unnerving. It doesn't give away much....but I get the feeling Sir Ridley was listening when Steven Hawking said a few years ago that while advanced civilizations were a probability..we shouldn't seek them out; as given our own history they would more than likely be predatory and would view us as nothing but a resource. It's been a long time since I could honestly say I was REALLY looking forward to a film. But as of watching this...I am.
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They'll go for the effects, the buzz, because the marketing is effective, the spectacle, and because it'll be the biggest thing playing when it releases.
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March 17, 2012, 7:49 p.m. CST
I would destroy the lives of everyone I know just to watch this right now.
by Ryan Dawson
That is my level of anticipation for this film.
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Nothing wrong there. Don't give him the time of the day. I think I'm still a tad more excited for DKR, but this one is getting very close. What a great summer we're going to have. Well with some of the other movies (Cabin, Hobbit, etc.) coming out, we're going to have a stellar year.
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don't fail me now... please...
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March 17, 2012, 7:52 p.m. CST
Chill with the 'tude, bro...I'll tell ya what it spoils...
by Shermdawg
It confirms the Space Jockey we thought we knew, was actually a suit. Something slightly alluded too in the first trailer....for those that examined that thing frame by frame. But instead of maintaining the mystery until release they confirm our theory and ruin the surprise for the general movie going audience who don't obsess over every little detail released. If they were going to reveal the Jockey, they should've stuck in a shot of Mr.X fully suited to keep some element of surprise for those folks.
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Yes. Yes, I am. Oh boy!
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March 17, 2012, 7:53 p.m. CST
Hey...Andrew Stanton and Disney Mkt....did you see THAT trailer?
by conspiracy
That...motherfuckers...is how you make and release a trailer. Kneel at Sir Ridley's cock and drink from his tap of Professionalism cartoon boy.
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March 17, 2012, 7:53 p.m. CST
Cureguy - I believe that voice is saying, "Cut it out!"
by Mr. Nice Gaius
As in, "Hey, knock it off!"
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March 17, 2012, 7:55 p.m. CST
The tall figure that's standing up by the Jockey Chair...
by Mr. Nice Gaius
...is that a glowing green helmet on the floor? Huh?
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March 17, 2012, 7:55 p.m. CST
Great trailer, fantastic production values, but gives away too much
by RandySavage
But this would seem to follow the leaked synopsis very closely... which is a shame because I wish I didn't know the story. They shouldn't have shown the alien ship getting rammed & knocked out of the sky by the Prometheus... isn't that a climactic point of the film.
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I haven't felt like this about a movie in a VERY VERY fucking long time.
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...that I don't know marvelousd. By the time this is out, the geek fawning will have ruined it for everyone.
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This looks amazing, but I hope that last line isn't a subtle warning to temper our expectations. As in big things = Alien franchise small beginnings = Prometheus Having said that, this looks anything but small...
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That is how you do it. Not really giving anything away, but just getting the audience pumped for the movies. Seems like it wouldn't be that hard, but the marketing folks seem to be confounded by the right way to market a movie.
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The highest grossing film of all time is a hard core sci-fi film!!! Of the top 10 highest grossing films, 3 are sci-fi...the others are fantasy with sci-fi elements...the public LOVES scifi movies. Prometheus may not make a shitload of money, but get this bullshit talk of "the public doesn't like scifi" the fuck outta here. They love it.
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You, me and a whole lot of friends. You sexy goddamn movie you.
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Weyland's funeral. Ridley said we might see Guy Pearce in the film as an old man, and I can imagine the "Every king has his reign, and then he dies" line being delivered by Vickers as part of the eulogy.
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Just like my pennis. Hehehehehheheheheheheheeh.
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March 17, 2012, 8:03 p.m. CST
Any movie where some dude is screaming "Cut it off!" hysterically really shouldn't be rated PG-13
by Al
Like, at all. Dammit, Fox, HAVE. SOME. FUCKING. BALLS. and release the first IMAX 3D R-rated movie EVER
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Xenomorph > Barnabas
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Looks a lot like the Alien.
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The way she said that like she was talking to a sentient computer. Could "Prometheus" be an early incarnation of Mother? Also, the laser orbs. I had my doubts about them initially, but not anymore. Fucking coolest toys I've seen in decades. Cameron would give his right nut to have tech as cool as that in Avatar 2.
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And it had balls.
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March 17, 2012, 8:10 p.m. CST
Had to go to KeepVid so i could watch it in "glorious quicktime" and get my frame by frame going!
by clarntoon
With all that YouTube is, why doesn't it have frame by frame? As a developer I know it's hard to move the timeline backwards one frame at a time.. but forwards is easy.
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He said on the Kevin Pollack chat show (if not other places, but that's where I saw it) that he doesn't think the sequel to a prequel movie should automatically be the movie that already exists from the past, that a worthy prequel movie should simply be set in the same "universe" as the first film, but with all new characters and an original story. Now clearly there are heavy ALIEN carryovers here in this trailer, like everyone else is already saying, that's very obviously the image of an alien queen up on the wall. But that doesn't necessarily mean that Alien 1979 would be the direct and inevitable sequel to this movie. In Lindelof I Trust.
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March 17, 2012, 8:13 p.m. CST
Ok, I revise: the first IMAX 3D R-rated with aliens and people and live action and naked push ups and cyborgs and hundreds of millions of dollars and so forth
by Al
More ballsy decision than Beowulf, that is.
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the trailer doesn't give too much away. Right now to me it appears that it does but since I know nothing to begin with I really hope to see some real surprises and plot points/ set pieces/ action/ etc. I couldn't gleam from the trailer. June 8th can't get here faster! And please be R. Thank you.
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Lucas can eat a dick
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My only quibble is it does seem to give away a bit too much. It kind of bugs me that just picking through the trailers I'm able to deduce so much about the story. Which is why whoever said this will get $100 million tops domestically is on crack. They are looking for a major opening week when this PG-13 puppy lands in June (i.e., $100 million+ in the first week or two), so they're not being shy about giving away some major nuggets of info.
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Space Jockey you guys!
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Inception makes almost 300 m in the USA alone. So there's hope Prometheus will crack 200 m.
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I got chills watching that trailer. It's a masterpiece in itself. I hope its not just a highly gifted editor at work here, but the genius that is Ridley Scott!
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March 17, 2012, 8:26 p.m. CST
This looks like it could be truly scary. I am so excited to see it.
by Ironhelix
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but that looks pretty sick.
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I loves me some good sci-fi!
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Trailer pretty much outlines whole story. Humans visited early in history. Bread crumbs leading to honeypot dropped. If humans develop dangerous level of tech - tech that can take them to the stars - the breadcrumbs will lead them to a trap. The Prometheus goes to the planet, springs the trap and then tries to stop it.
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March 17, 2012, 8:32 p.m. CST
F*ck man! I dunno. TDKR, Prometheus, or Avengers.
by DanielnocharismaCraig
One one will be the movie to beat this summer? So close on this one. I originally dismissed Avengers until I saw the latest trailer for that but this one...............and you know Nolan has just got to have something great that he can pull out of his sleeve.
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Or did I just hear it wrong? A minor nit-pick... I've lived in the south for most of my life and Hollywood hardly ever gets that shit right. Not every southerner talks like that. I'd say that only maybe 5 out of every 15 people might have a slight twang (others might disagree with that figure). But only about 1 in 30 or so will be anywhere near sounding like Billy Bob Thornton. Idris should have just used his real accent. And if the part absolutely needed to be a country boy, Ridley could have just, you know, actually HIRED SOMEONE THAT WAS ACTUALLY SOUTHERN. This is not to say Elba's generalized American accent didn't sound bad on THE WIRE..but the southern drawl just seems really difficult for actors who grew up elsewhere to get right for whatever reasons. It's like hiring Natalie Portman to play a Brit..NO ONE BUYS IT. Just makes people sound weird and damages the film IMHO.
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March 17, 2012, 8:39 p.m. CST
Could any serious person ever disagree that it is visually stunning? I mean, every superlative
by Brian Hopper
I can think of applies... The look of the film is sumptuous. Things are "real" looking (e.g., vehicles that serve a purpose, tools and advanced weapons, etc.), yet the film also has an incredible sense of This-Is-The-Future and other-worldly-ness. Everything is detailed, yet the film has scope. The blend of practical and digital fx appears seamless. Every shot conveys the sense of a director with a sure hand and strong vision. On the big screen, the film is almost sure to take everyone's breath away. We'll see how it all turns out in June, but as of now I am beyond impressed with what Ridley Scott has done here. Probably too early to say this is a potential classic in the making, but damn I'm tempted.
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thanks sir Ridley for spoiling the fucking movie! GOSH! Anybody know if this is on Quicktime? :)
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If this trailer doesn't get you hard, you must be female
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Funny you should mention Portman, her southern accent always bugged the shit out of me.
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I WANT IT NOW GOD DAMMIT!!
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March 17, 2012, 8:47 p.m. CST
I haven't watched this one yet for fear of it spoiling all the twists and whole plot of the film
by lv_426
Nor have I read any of this talkback. Can anyone that has seen it let me know if it is too spoilery? If it is, I am not watching it. I'm tempted, but I don't wany to ruin any possible alien biomechanoid godlike surprises this film could have in store for my feeble human mind when I sit my ass down in a seat at the IMAX on June 8th.
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MOVIE EVENT OF THE SUMMER!!!!!
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there is no way on earth I'm missing this one.
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wow...cannot wait. I actually, watch it without sound so I don't hear any plot points but still get to see some amazing visuals. It works if you're avoiding spoilers.
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March 17, 2012, 8:52 p.m. CST
Yes that was a facehugger. THERE ARE NO QUEEN ALIENS. Everything after ALIEN was a cryo sleep dream FACT.
by the Green Gargantua
But it is an Alien.
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a great trailer, to be sure, but if you're aware of the leaked synopsis, or the possible plot points that are being discussed, this trailer shows you alot of things in very, very short cuts. You might be okay watching it once, but don't pause on any frames, although you'd still see some pivotal events. If you don't want any spoiling, run for the hills.
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March 17, 2012, 8:59 p.m. CST
After Dasizgoot's review of this I'm not so sure I'm into it anymore.
by UltraTron
I mean Predator women in space jockey bio suits? They could have come up with something better than that.
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March 17, 2012, 8:59 p.m. CST
Still from everything they report it's a total alien film
by UltraTron
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Though that's not hard to achieve when you consider what utter crap we've had to endure this millennium. Prometheus looks like it has the right ingredients. One of the best casts since Nolan started his Bats tenure.
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I loved ALIEN, and had a blast with the pulse pounding intensity of ALIENS. Then all of the movies after that in this series just seemed so mediocre/poor by comparison. PROMETHIUS just might stand along with those other two giants of sci-fi cinema. Please don't suck...please don't suck....please please please. Just the word PREQUEL makes me worry after a long wait for a new movie from another sci-fi classic series....and then it just died there before my eyes on screen.
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Naomi says early in the trailer that the message they find is an invitation. Later she says, "We were wrong. So wrong." I'm assuming it was really a warning and they didn't translate it correctly. Damn Space Jockey to English dictionary.
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I said Big things have small beginnings, just like my pennis. Hehehehehheheheheheheheheheheh.
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March 17, 2012, 9:04 p.m. CST
the green gargantua, f*** that. The new Weyland viral site just mentioned Colonial Marines.
by DrBathroomMD
Seems like Soctt is just fine with Cameron's take.
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Goddamn it, it has the same stink on it that Star Wars 1-3 had. No, I'm not saying it will suck like those did but how do you explain PAST tech being more advanced than the future tech? Part of what made 'Alien' awesome was how clunky/functional all the stuff on the ship was. Now here comes this movie (set in the PAST) with holographic screens and all kinds of super future-tech shit. I can't buy that it takes place before 'Alien' so it kind of fails the plausibility test. (For me, anyway. Just my opinion, YMMV)
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There is additional material on some home video versions that would likely have earned it an R rating. But Paramount most definitely did not release the movie into American theaters with an R rating.
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The full trailer of that is up. Doesn't hold a candle to Prometheus, great trailer. Does give away quite a bit of the story though.
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Well, this COMPLETELY makes up for the shitty Dark Shadows trailer!!! Ridley Scott is BACK!!! This is going to be one to add to the list of alltime science fiction greats!! I cannot wait!!!!! :-)
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March 17, 2012, 9:10 p.m. CST
So...we're not bitching about CGI vs. Practical FX for this film?
by Logan_1973
Just checking. Guess that argument doesn't apply here.
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March 17, 2012, 9:11 p.m. CST
I was sold by the teaser but even more so now, looks fucking great.
by Rebel Scumb
As many have said before there is a huge vacuum for quality scifi movies/shows right now that needs filling, this may very well do the trick
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The ship in the original was just a mining ship. Maybe workhorse ships don't get the fancy tech that a ship like Prometheus gets.
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The REAL Ridley Scott said in the AMC chat that he does not consider Alien 3 - AvP: Requiem to be canon...nor do I. :-)
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I told you before. I'm from Detroit. The city of all the tough guys like me.
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I'll give it a go. I figured I'd just make sure since Merrick didn't mention whether or not it was spoilery. I wish it was up for download in 1080p at the Apple trailer site. Get on it Apple!
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March 17, 2012, 9:18 p.m. CST
I'm with Ridley. I'm happy disowning everything after Aliens.
by reflecto
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March 17, 2012, 9:18 p.m. CST
Still think they SHOULD have tried harder to tone down the glossy tech ... I understand the original crew were just 'truck drivers' but the difference is too much by far ...
by GINGE_MUPPET
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NOPE i freeze framed the trailer. it had TENTACLES!
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March 17, 2012, 9:22 p.m. CST
spacedoughnut, stop trying to act oversmart. Nobody is impressed.
by ajit maholtra
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Jesus, will you guys stop with the "It is gonna make 100000 domestic blah blah..." bullshit. Who cares how much cash it makes. If it is a good movie and you enjoy it that is all that matters. You dorks caring about how much a movie makes are a cancer and is why Hollywood pumps out so many shitty flicks anymore.
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March 17, 2012, 9:25 p.m. CST
@ajit_maholtra - heard you had a small dick? wahahaha!
by space doughnut
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is attacking someone in the sleep capsule @ 2:03 - 2:05 mark.
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March 17, 2012, 9:27 p.m. CST
spacedoughnut, you heard wrong because you are too much stupid
by ajit maholtra
I said Big things have small beginnings. That means my pennis started out small but now it is big. Unfortunately, your brain will always be small like your pennis. Hehehehhehehehehehheheheeh.
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I am from Detroit now but I used to be from India. I'm not a Muslim. I am Hindu. I love peace not war.
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March 17, 2012, 9:33 p.m. CST
You gotta love that wry little toothless smile Fassbender gives at
by Brian Hopper
the very end, which deliberately recalls Ash's similar smile in Alien ('I can't lie to you about your chances, but... you have my sympathies.'). Obviously, Brian Cox's performance as Ash in Alien will be difficult to top.
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I have to go now. I have a hot date with a white gal. Im going to get her very drunk. Wish me luck.
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March 17, 2012, 9:34 p.m. CST
Awesome Trailer!! So when the Space Jockey takes his seat is that when the chestburster pops out and the ship begins to crash?!
by Can
It seems like the Space Jockey is part of the aliens (Xenomorphs) DNA then. Hmmmmm...
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March 17, 2012, 9:36 p.m. CST
Anyone else notice that the goo Fassbender is lifting from the urn is black and not green like in the first trailer?
by Cureguy
Also that xenomorph motif on the wall looks so cool. Like Giger hand made it himself. Almost looks like it's being crucified. I think there is two distinctly different aliens here. Humanoid space jockeys, and some aliens we have not seen yet. Maybe the xenomorph is a blending of the two.
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Maybe try match dotcom.
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If nerds didn't discuss box office, Hollywood wouldn't care about which projects were profitable. Right? The truth is if Prometheus does really well it could usher in a new age of edgy sci-fi projects from Hollywood, kind of like when Star Wars runaway success caused a flood of fantasy/sci-fi genre films in the 80's. Hollywood only cares about profits. Box office nerds didn't create that reality. You ditz.
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But hopefully this gal will not be having a cock. Hehehehehheheheheheheheheheh.
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Everyone in this film will die.
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March 17, 2012, 9:46 p.m. CST
I do have a girl Ajit. And she can attest my semen is bright and sparkly, just like the bio-goo in the trailer.
by Cureguy
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March 17, 2012, 9:47 p.m. CST
Looks cool, but the origins to the Space Jockey is just something I'm not interested in.
by hank henshaw
It steals part of the charm from Alien. Making the guy just some grey bald giant, Zzzzz. I still hope to be surprised, but I'm keeping by expectations low, low, low.
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You have to remember to breathe at the end of the trailer. Fuck that was good candy!
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Prometheus or a human ship collides with the SJ ship. My guess is that it's headed to Earth so they collide with it and that's the explosion and the ship crashing. It also appears that Elizabeth Shaw (Noomi Rapace ) is in the transparent chamber. Looks like the glass is broken. Earlier in the trailer she's standing there, like she's infected or something. In the chamber, it looks like her torso is bloody and the pincher thingy is extracting what looks like a chestburster looking thing. It looks like there's an umbilical cord attached.
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Happens every time I see a trailer for this film.
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rectal_blowout is right i saw it too. not a chest buster per say. i had tentacle like thingys
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and it starts off small cos they accidentally cut your dick head off during your circumcision... have a look in the mirror. isn't something missing? wahahhaha!
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March 17, 2012, 10:07 p.m. CST
Had to stop 3rd way in as TOO MUCH STORYLINE! /:
by the_shitweasel_with_a_quizzical_brow
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The Prometheus will probably end up on the list of great movie spaceships, and might make the short list at the top that includes the Discovery, the Nostromo and the Millenium Falcon. (Nothing can ever touch the Enterprise at #1.)
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March 17, 2012, 10:08 p.m. CST
They are blowing ALL their WADS!! Leave a little surprise????
by the_shitweasel_with_a_quizzical_brow
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Great trailer...
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Mr. Scott, where have you been?
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March 17, 2012, 10:17 p.m. CST
I knew it! Never trust an android. He's gonna fuck over everyone.
by Lakewater
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The ancient civilizations with the same pictogram... Mayan, Babylonian, Hittite, Sumerian, Hawaiian, Isle of Skye and Egyptian.
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This is how you make a great trailer. Oh yeah, and it's a good idea to have a great movie with incredible visuals and excitement in it, that helps too! I'm not steeped in Alien lore, but it's also looking like this is how you make a prequel. This isn't the Phantom Menace. I think this movie (and any that follow?) might just exist just fucking fine on its own modern terms, not fucking up the original continuity but not overly relying on where it's all going either. Makes me think a revisiting of the Blade Runner world might be a good idea after all, though I'm not sure what Ridley's got left after blowing his wad rather awesomely here. I thought the original Alien trailer was starting off rather cheap like a pre-production teaser. But it paid off nicely. The 70's were a good time for movies. Today, you can 5,000 CGI monsters ripping the heads of humanity in every shot, but there was an edginess back then that cannot be recaptured, it seems.
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That the ship that is being activated, not the Prometheus, but the alien one, looks very much like the that was abandoned in the first alien? If so, I think this very clearly shows the ties between the two films, this is how that ship GOT there... They must destroy the ship, and the xenomorphs escape only after the fact... CAN'T WAIT!!!
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Maybe it's the xenomorph in ant form like from some of the rumored earlier scripts.
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March 17, 2012, 10:27 p.m. CST
I can't remember the last time I was THIS excited for a movie!!
by antonphd
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Is in the fucking trailer! at 2:04 he's walking to the gun chair... and YES that is a face hugger on Noomis' face. Was able to pause it clean and looks exactly like one to me.
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It seems to me that the xenomorph is starting out in this movie as something tiny. In Alien, Ripley refuses to let her comrades out of quarantine when they get back from the derelict ship. She speaks as if theyre infected with a disease or virus. Maybe this is how the alien starts out. A nymph that adopts certain dna traits from its host.
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March 17, 2012, 10:39 p.m. CST
There are mistakes in everyone's career. One thing that's clear now
by Brian Hopper
is that a big mistake Ridley Scott made was not making a few more sci-fi films. Although they are both in a sense not pure SF but cross-genre films, Alien and Blade Runner are two of the most sure-footed science fiction films ever made. And (at a minimum) Prometheus appears to be a strong SF entry. I really REALLY wish Ridley Scott had made a few more SF films. For whatever reason, he gets the genre. And all of his strengths -- design, incredible visuals, technology, 'immersive' and intense cinematic experiences, and his talent for directing actors (thus getting 'real' performances out of them in a way that cuts against the silliness inherent in all science fiction) -- work particularly well in the SF genre.
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March 17, 2012, 10:40 p.m. CST
Clearly Fassbender as the curious android sets them on the path to deadsville
by smudgewhat
Lovely. Can't wait. Felt like too much info in that trailer though!
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March 17, 2012, 10:44 p.m. CST
promETeus - the letters flicker and grow darker at the end
by antonphd
except for the letters ET in the center :)
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March 17, 2012, 10:46 p.m. CST
Have to stop watching it now or I'm gonna pull too much from it..
by Turd Furgeson
I am officially more excited for this than AVENGERS or TDKR as far as summer blockbusters go.. If the movie is a good as all the teaser material has been, this could be the movie of the season..
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Just the scene of the spaceship landing looks more amazing than anything else I've seen in a long time...here's hoping Ridley makes a GREAT movie. His previous few did blow so we should be optimistic, but cautious.
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March 17, 2012, 10:52 p.m. CST
If the derelict in A L I E N is the same one shown in the trailer here and wants to destroy Earth, then why does it send a warning beacon to Nostromo at the beginning of A L I E N to stay away? How do the eggs get in the cargo hold?
by Cureguy
So many questions still remain. I don't think the trailer spoiled anything. Maybe the mechanical suit in the chair is based off of an alien we haven't seen yet.
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March 17, 2012, 11 p.m. CST
No, the CGI vs practical arguement does NOT apply here because Ridley knows when to use each and does so masterfully.
by MENTALDOMINANCE
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I like the first 2 predator films but just because they thought it would be cute to put an alien skull cameo in the sequel, doesn't make it a good idea to take the crossover seriously. I grew up with the predator films and had never seen an Alien or Aliens until a year ago thinking they were lame but its obvious now after discovering those movies that the Alien movie and universe is at the very least a healthy 2 levels of pedigree above Predator. The Predator movies are awesome and no less fun to watch but they are a much more dumbed down kind of fun. Aliens is just straight up good sci-fi and has become my new favorite grundgy sci-fi universe.
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and yet! ... Caveat emptor
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1. All we know from Alien is that the transmission is of an alien origin. Ripley only partially deciphered, with the assistance of MUTH'UR that it, "...looks like a warning." We don't know the full transmission or who sent it. 2. Whether the eggs are in a cargo hold or in a cavern beneath the Derelict is an open debate. To me, the cave seems FAR too large to be a part of the ship. O'bannon's original script also places the eggs in a silo, separate from the Derelict. As for the eggs themselves, the trailers seem yo suggest that they start as urns that become eggs in some kind of genetic transmogrification.
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is the one that they have to stop from going to Earth with 10,000 cartons of eggs, they collide or shoot it down and it crashes on LV426, then explain the timeline? Is the SJ walking towards to the chair the decayed one in Alien? I thought this was suppose to be 30 years prior to Nostromo. The trailer is cool and I'm sure the film will be killer, but I hate that everything is humaniod. The SJ is a 10' humaniod, and that they worship their creator, another humaniod(the big head...possibly). The reason Alien is so cool is because it's fucking alien. It's ancient and way the fuck different then us. But what, 30 years prior, a big bald dude was in the chair...in a suit of all things. This totally kills the mystique of the SJ and its relation to the xenomorph. That it's all based on "Me, me, I,I, us, Humans", as the centerpiece of the story.
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This whole movie came about because Ridley Scott. wanted to explore the SJ since even he didn't know what it was.
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oh, nothing - I just wanted to write "rectal blowout"
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Or something related ... is that what Fassbender's character is toying with @ 1:34 ? Seems like it's a little critter
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Hope I dream of glorious space chaos.
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March 17, 2012, 11:36 p.m. CST
Just replayed a few times and you know you'll get your money's worth just with the visuals alone - this is an ace in the hole. Cha-ching.
by justmyluck
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someone call Guinness, i think a record has been set
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I find Noomi Rapace to look to much like a trannie (she looks like a masculine form of that lead singer of AFI)... so yea, she will be distracting me because of that (like she did in sherlock)... also, what the fuck is up with her "prayer" hands... that looked so terrible also I hate when prequels tech looks 100000 years better than the original (ie star wars and this) and last bit of complaining... why cant i see what you guys are seeing? i see no facehuggers
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March 18, 2012, 12:01 a.m. CST
If ONE PERSON bitches about CGI on here I swear I will find them.
by DrBathroomMD
One of the first things I noticed after watching the TEASER was that none of the visual effects seemed like visual effects. Everything looked remarkably real. There were no "money shots" that looked great but you could still see it was fake. This movie obviously has a blending of practical and computer-generated that is absolutely perfect.
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it looks like i was watching an entirely different trailer for the past day... no wonder you guys kept mentionin shit i didnt see ps: the trailer im referring to is actually better imo than this one http://youtu.be/F0DFiQccM3E
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Its not a facehugger. Look again and pause it. The lady is lying on the table. There is a little mechanical arm holding something over here face that looks more like a chestburster ( baby Xenomorph ) you can even see its tail wagging. The Alien Jockey now does unfortunately seem to be a spacesuit worn by a tall pale skinned humanoid. You can see him on the far right of the screen as the chair comes out of the ground.
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... is probably from the Prometheus, not the U ship. It looks like it crashes into it to prevent it from leaving the planet or something.
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Okay....someone help me here. At 2:05 isn't that a facehugger on the person lying there? And at 2:14 you see quasi-adult alien legs but there this a human looking hand/arm coming down from that whatever it is. Am I seeing that right???
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March 18, 2012, 12:20 a.m. CST
quasi-adult alien legs belongs to Mr.Grey, phxmonsterguy.
by Shermdawg
Theres a shot earlier in the trailer where he stands up and you can see the definition on his legs.
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... seems to be part of the eulogy for Guy Pearce as Weyland, assuming he is an old man who just died in the present timeframe of Prometheus (with the younger version of him shown speaking to a crowd of people inone of the viral videos being some kind of background or flashback).
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Having a look at the 2:04 mark, opinions have ranged from a chest burster to a face hugger to something with tentacles. I think it looks like chest burster and the 'tentacle' that others have seen could be the whipping tail of the chest burster (as in the original Alien). There should be a chest burster in this movie as we all know that the Space Jockey succumbs to one whilst in the chair, which is commented on in the original by Dallas.
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An awesome gif from the full hd trailer shows a baby xenomorph wiggling here : http://www.prometheusforum.net/discussion/224/new-trailer-screenshots/p2
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March 18, 2012, 12:44 a.m. CST
It is strongly implied that the distress beacon IS coming from the derelict itself. Even though Dallas says it is from "unknown origin" the narrative very much implies it is coming from the derelict ship.
by Cureguy
However it is possible that Weyland company made a phony distress signal just to have The Nostromo check it out and hopefully get the crew infected for study. It also is strongly implied in the making of A L I E N doc that the "cargo hold" is in fact part of the ship, not the cave system underneath it.
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March 18, 2012, 12:48 a.m. CST
My gut tells me that Ripley and MUTHR were right and it is a "warning" and not a distress signal. If that is the case then why would a ship bent on destroying Earth be trying to warn potential humans away from danger?
by Cureguy
I'm sure Ridley will answer all of these questions with the film.
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March 18, 2012, 1:17 a.m. CST
I would love to play with Noomi Rapace... try sticking my pinky in her tight little ballon knot asshole... yum!
by uberfreak
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He is all the time thinking of my pennis. All day long he sucks on lullis like they are lollipops. He named himself after his anus because it is round like a doughnut and it is a black hole.
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Space Jockeeeeeeeeeee!
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Have to agree that this seems like the concept for the movie. The Space Jockeys are world killers, they leave a guide to this planet so if a species on Earth such as humans evolves enough it comes a-looking for what it thinks of as its creators. Instead all they want is to trace back the intruders and kill the civilisation. The Space Jockey in Alien was carrying the killer payload of biomech weapons, the xenomorphs, to Earth and the Prometheus crew managed to force the ship to crash. Has been explored in different forms in other sci-fi works but still a great idea and very much looking forward to seeing how this film handles it.
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And it was full of white whores getting drunk and acting like bitches. But none of them would talk to me because I'm not pale like a ghost like they are. They are all dumb bitches who want pale pennis in their phuddi.
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March 18, 2012, 1:39 a.m. CST
The Xenomorph "frieze art" on the wall of the cave convinces me that they are a completely separate species. Not blended with human and "Jockey" DNA.
by Cureguy
This movie is gonna be so good.
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March 18, 2012, 1:47 a.m. CST
More trailer goodies : I just saw Lysa Arryn nee Tully at 0:59....
by Kai_Mah'gra
....Except this time without a creepy 8 year old old sucking on her titty.
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March 18, 2012, 1:52 a.m. CST
You gotta love the fact that the Prometheus looks 100 times more technologically advanced....
by Kai_Mah'gra
....than the Nostromo, even though it predates it by about 100 or so years. Ret-Conned Prequels. You gotta love them.
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March 18, 2012, 1:56 a.m. CST
Now you see, this is why you use a dropship and not land the whole motherfuckin mothership enchalada....
by Kai_Mah'gra
That way you can still Nuke the planet from orbit and if need be blast any Space Jockey Horse-shoe look-alike ships out of the sky that's trying to take off and head for Earth (or 'Arrf', as a certain Mr.Smith would put it) to spell the end of humanity. It's the only way to be sure (TM).
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March 18, 2012, 1:56 a.m. CST
Because the Prometheus was a top-of-the-line ship and Nostromo was a fucking gas truck
by Al
Go ahead. Tell me and explain it to me rationally how it's inconceivable that Prometheus' technology would be more advanced than what is on the Nostromo, I'll wait.
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March 18, 2012, 1:57 a.m. CST
The Fucking Company gives their explorer team great gear and the truckers the shitty gear
by Al
That makes perfect sense to me.
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March 18, 2012, 2:01 a.m. CST
Nice to see B.D. Wong on another fateful and doomed space-ship...
by Kai_Mah'gra
...on whose successful mission the fate of humanity depends. Let's just hope he gets his Math right this time. We don't want to have any 'Icarus 2'-type situations again. That kind of thing can lead to one having an unfortunate reputation and before you know it, he's slitting his wrists. Hey I thought Asians are supposed to be good at Math and science any way. What's up with the Asian guy being the one responsible for the near-failure of the mission to jump-start Earth's nearest star.
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...but it's thesame Asian dude from Sunshine. So I got the movie reference correct but confused the Asian. Can you blame me, really?
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March 18, 2012, 2:05 a.m. CST
In 2012, no one's going to put CRT screens in a future movie
by NotEnoughBiehn
Deal with it.
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I'm pretty sure that 21st century gas trucks still look more pimp and more advanced than the most pimped out and most tricked out Model T from 1912. Yeah, you explain that one to me. OR at least explain to mehow their Cryo-pods (which should be standard issue, regardless of whether it's a gas-truck type spaceship or top-of-the-line Cadillac class spaceship) are more advanced looking in Promethues than those cruddy looking boxes they had in the Nostromo.
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March 18, 2012, 2:05 a.m. CST
Undisputable proof Prometheus and Alien ARE connected more than Ridley's leading on...
by TripEllex
First, watch the trailer to 2:08 and pause it. Notice the ship crashing (on what is presumably LV 426). Now watch Alien to 25:49 and notice the crashed ship. Same ship. Now add into that, that when the Nostromo lands on LV 426, alien eggs are in the Space Jockey chair room. Unless the aliens are native to LV426 or were seeded there by Predators, they must have crashed with the Space Jockey. Also, my thinking about the future technology in Alien being lo tech compared to the Prometheus is the same argument I use for the Star Wars universe, from how the tech was more advanced in the Old Republic time than it is in the Trilogies: Somewhere along the lines, a great catastrophe knocked them back to the Stone Age and they had to restart. Since Prometheus presumably takes place hundreds of years before Alien, its completely possible that they wiped out all technology in some massive war, had to start over, and are just now reaching technology close to what they had before (the Atlantis argument). It only took America 150 years to go from pre-steam technology to the advanced cyber age of today.
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March 18, 2012, 2:09 a.m. CST
By the way, I'm not bashing Scott for that little discrepnancy in this 'trilogy' of his..
by Kai_Mah'gra
....I just think it's funny, is all. Especially for all those people who plan on buying the DVD for this so that they can have the entire trilogy collection in one set and then having to watch them and watch the technology devolve from the (chronologically) earlier movie to the more recent event one. Star Wars also had the same problem - although it should be pointed out that at least George Lucas' set designers did try to keep some of the technology and ship designs consistent or similar (like those fore-runners to the X-wings in the prequels.) It's always a problem you're going to run into when you try and make a prequel to a movie you did 30 years ago.
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My take on it is that the Nostromo, is an older ship which has older technology, an old model hauling ship. The Prometheus is a brand spanking new ship with newer tech. So although this is a prequel to Alien, that movie has an older crappy ship. That would explain why it falls apart when they land, and just holds together when they take off in Alien. If the Nostromo was a new ship, I would hope it could land and take off without all that hassle they went through with the repairs!!
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While I agree with you on the part of the special effect technology of the 70s compared to today, here's your hole in that theory: While George Lucas or Ridley couldn't have used advanced CGI in the 70s, there's nothing from stopping them using the same exact practical designtechniques they used back then today, to purposely date the technology. Even more irrefutable proof the Xenomorphs are in Prometheus: Since the Space Jockey is obviously dead when it crashes on the planet, I doubt the facehuggers would latch onto an already dead alien (assuming it died before/during crashing because it was sitting in its pilot chair and didn't attempt to escape or avert disaster). I'm betting it was infected before it crashed, and the burster is what killed it, causing the crash (they acknowledge it had been infected by talking about something bursting out of the Jockey in Alien) Bam. Case solved. Aliens are in the movie.
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That is all.
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Here's one: Why does the Space Jockey room look like it's made out of molded gray plastic compared to the multi-toned, metallic and organic looking room of Alien? Why does the space jockey chair have a different arrangement of contours and ribbing? Why do they have flying laser scanner orbs 100 years earlier, but the Nostromo crew has equipment that looks like it was made out of hardware store dumpster parts?
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Throughout the interviews re this movie, Scott has spoken about Alien DNA over and over. Could he be referring to the black oily stuff which is prominent, especially in this trailer? Could the black oil be Alien DNA which infects life forms, because it's doing something to the back of the guys head at the start of the trailer. Now I'm not saying this will turn people into Aliens, hell no, we might end up with the bloody hybrid from Alien Resurrection.
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March 18, 2012, 2:24 a.m. CST
This movie is going to have the ultimate "LOST" twist at the end. Here's why:
by Ryan Dawson
Ridley said at the ComicCon panel that although the unanswered central mystery of the first Alien was the connecting DNA to Prometheus, they'd "gone a different direction", and that the "last few minutes" of the film would show what he's talking about. At the beginning of the same panel, Lindelof says that Ridley called him out of the blue to ask him to take a crack at the script. Ridley didn't know Lindelof and had never worked with him before. Why call this guy of all people? I bet it's because Ridley wanted to spice up his slightly lackluster sci fi property with a LOST style wtf!!!???? moment of grand and epic proportion backed by hundreds of millions of dollars of studio oomph and Sir Ridley's sure hand. So for that reason, I would hope we have not seen all in the trailer and that at the end of the road awaits a spectacularly marvelous, mind-blowing finish that will leave us reeling for the rest of our lives in pathetic anticipation of more. Ridley has placed his trust in you Lindelof. I will reluctantly do so also, in honor of Sir Ridley. Don't fuck us all like you did on LOST.
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He didn't want to do old and worn again. Besides, they had no conception of digital projection screens or whatever you call them back in 1979, or he probably would have done it then too. Frankly, Minority Report screens are already played out to me. Everyone is doing them.
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Ridley, I believe in you!
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I bet its the ending. She is impregnated with some xeno and wakes up in the company of fassbenders character (who did the deed) tells her his little speech about "small things" she stumbles her way to a nearby window looks out and shes on earth...she cries then prays. The end.
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small beginnings
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PROMETHEUS, ARE YOU SEEING THIS?
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March 18, 2012, 3:39 a.m. CST
Guys, I was joking. Don't take my nitpicking seriously....
by Kai_Mah'gra
Tongue was firmly planted in cheek when I wrote those posts picking those nits. I realize there's no way that Ridley Scott (or even George Lucas) could have predicted or extrapolated where techonology would be at, 30, let along 150 years (or however fucking far into the Future George Lucas' Galaxy is comparative to ours), into the future. But it's always fun looking at old Sci-Fi movie to see what they sort of got right (Cryo-pods, Androids) and how they stumbled so badly trying to express it with limited technology of their time, as well as what they got oh-so-badly wrong ( like the notion that people will or would still be using those butt-ugly blocky CRT monitors with their blocky chunky buttons and consoles). I'm pretty certain 50 years from today, our grand-kids will be looking at movies like Avatar, Prometheus, Minority report and even Star WArs and thinking to themselves "what a dorky bunch of idiots those guys were. I mean, who still uses holo-projection technology. That stuff is like so last-decade." The Future world projected in Back to the Future was cool though. It's only 2 years from today and yet still looks more futuristic than what were living in today. At least sans the Michael Jackson and Ronald Reagan references.
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I'm so laughing at the geeks going after discrepancies in the technologies between ALIEN and PROMETHEUS, based on a trailer. We have not seen the finished movie, ding bats!! We don't know if they are going to answer these things yet. We are only seeing a trailer. For all we know - WEYLAND spent a crap load of money and the latest tech on the Prometheus ship where as the Nostromo was basically a Garbage Truck. It could be the difference between a 2012 BMW and a 1972 Forklift. Chill out and wait for the movie before you cast stones.
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March 18, 2012, 3:48 a.m. CST
So I waited a bit in case Apple got off their asses and uploaded a nice 1080p version of this trailer
by lv_426
No luck so I decided to watch the Youtube version. Come on Apple. We need this thing in the full glory of 1080p!!!!!! First off some great visuals. Nothing specifically spoilery which is great that they were able to not give us the whole plot of the film beyond what we've already known since last summer. They need to just have this trailer and that teaser that was released back around the end of December. No more new trailers. Just show us the damn movie already. As for what was shown in this trailer. Near the end the big tall pale bald dude with the Giger pants took a big stride towards the rising space jockey navigation chair. Any questions as to whether the space jockeys and the whole Chariots of the Gods and ancient space humans as creators of life on Earth angle, if that was a smokescreen is obviously answered in some form now. It seems we are definitely getting a dark and intense ancient aliens film. Those dudes on the Ancient Aliens series on The History Channel are going to loose their shit. Also, it seems there was this same dude with the Giger pants on, looming over Noomi's character in the halls of the Prometheus. So I am guessing this will be similar to A L I E N in that the build up will be the forming of this space jockey as the big monster/villain. The xenomorphs/biomechanoid species featured in the original Alien is a guard dog/soldier/worker bee if I had to guess. Remember when we first heard Sir Ridley say that Prometheus is going to be about some dark and twisted Chariots of the Gods and engineers of life stuff? Well, everyone said cool, the space jockeys are the Annunaki. Which is possibly true, but I think maybe there is going to be another species or type of extraterrestrial that called the shots back when humanity was created. I think it is going to go something like this in terms of a hierarchy: 1) Creator aliens, the Annunaki. These are going to be something bigger, weirder and more advanced than the space jockeys, possibly humanoid as well, but benevolent. They created that mysterious giant black saucer ship over the waterfall and we might not see them or maybe we'll see them in a hieroglyph or a skeletal form. 2) The evil space jockeys, which are like that larger humanoid Giger pants dude we've seen being up to no good in the Prometheus trailers. This is then of course the fossilized jockey type we saw in Alien as well. These bad jockeys are in essence the Nephilim. Bastardizations of the benevolent god aliens that are part biomechanical alien lifeform, and part Earth human. 3) The ALIEN, the big chap, warrior, queen, that whole *xenomorph* hive minded soldier alien type that comes from the facehugger, likes to kill space truckers, colonists, and Colonial Marines, etc. Giger's original biomechanoid monster. These I am guessing are equivalent to slaves or workers (thinking of the drone that was mentioned but never seen from Cameron's Aliens script). They are not only soldiers for the space jockeys, but worker slaves too. Maybe they are more animal-like when left to their own devices (as we saw in A L I E N and AL()ENS), but when a jockey is in the house, he/she/it can sort of telepathically take control of the Giger xenomorph and have them do all sorts of things like repair areas of a biomechanoid ship or something. They are probably a one size fits all kind of biomechanical technology that the jockeys used when they were in power over early humanity. Minions to the jockeys, a demonic nightmare to the poor Earth humans that lived way back in the distant past when man and alien god lived amongst each other. The space jockeys are the brains, the xenomorphs are the brawn if you will. Sir Ridley has also said in the past he sort of viewed the Alien as a demonic being as well. So perhaps he will have some hints towards that in Prometheus. It makes sense that it would seem demonic if you were up against it, especially if you were a primitive Earth human. Also, when the Aliens are not under the control of the jockey, they breed wildly out of control and are programmed at the genetic level to not only survive and breed, but to defend the ancient alien biomechanical technology that the crew of the Nostromo, the Hadley's Hope colonists, or the crew of the Prometheus are poking around in during the Alien films.* That's my theory at least. I didn't read any of the supposed spoilers poster around the talkbacks these past few days. So maybe I'm way off. What I think would be kind of interesting about my theory would be that it could hint towards the horrific Alien creature we all know so well, it could hint that it isn't evil but that the jockeys are and they used it for evil purposes in the past. Other things I noticed about this trailer... The green hypersleep pods definitely made me think of Event Horizon. I am surprised those made it into the film. Not a big deal though. It won't ruin anything, just sort of distracted me for a second. I definitely feel a Moebius and Ron Cobb vibe to the designs of the Prometheus. The space suits feel a bit like a Moebius design. It sucks that Jean Giraud died before Prometheus hits the big screen in June. Also, this definitely feels like it has a bit of the old A L I E N space trucker/used future design style fused a bit with some of the style of Star Trek. Basically, some of the shots of the corridors of the Prometheus reminded me a bit of what the hallways of the Enterprise looked like in the Star Trek films of the 80's. Then the Moebius style skin-tight space suits are sort of retro Star Trek style a bit too. Then you've got the whole angle of finding and uncovering ancient alien knowledge and technology. This brings in the 2001: A Space Odyssey angle to the film. The cool thing is that it doesn't feel like Ridley just mashed up 2001, Star Trek, and Alien, but that he took some ideas and concepts from them, but in essence made Prometheus his own. At least that is how it feels watching the two trailers. I was bugged by the cleaner slicker look from the first Prometheus teaser trailer, but I've gotten used to the look of this film now. It if were not a prequel to A L I E N it wouldn't even matter, but the fact that we are all going to compare how well it connects up with A L I E N and ALIENS adds an extra challenge on top of things for the crew of Prometheus. I think I cool with the way it all looks though. I'm sure if James Cameron were to now direct a follow up sequel to ALIENS, that it would be much cleaner and slicker looking than the film from 1986 as well, with more advanced effects and filmed using digital cinema cameras. Now I just have to not go batshit crazy waiting for this film. June 8th now seems like an eternity from now. * Remember in ALIENS, they cut the power and the warrior aliens as well as the queen were smart enough to figure out how to open a door. Also, the queen was smart enough to figure out the elevator at the end so she could get to Ripley and Newt. Then in the original ALIEN, the creature was clever enough to find the escape shuttle and get off the Nostromo. Blind luck maybe, but I think they have some sense of technology, but human tech is just different and alien enough to them that they can only manipulate it a tiny bit. Also, they are smarter when under the influence of a space jockey. That's my theory at least. That would also make them a really formidable biomechnoid army as well.
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March 18, 2012, 3:55 a.m. CST
Uh yeah. Once again I am the only one to say anything truly funny or intriguing in the slightest.
by UltraTron
You guys need to up your game. You're still in the 2D arena of thought while Spock runs circles around your Khan with the miracle of polarized glasses. I could thrash any one of you to ribbons with my brain cock's flailing Thing(2011) tentacles.
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What are your thoughts on Sir Ridley Scott's PROMETHEUS so far?
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March 18, 2012, 4:20 a.m. CST
lv_426 judging by your nick,you must be masturbating every day
by KilliK
with the knowledge that a new Alien movie is coming. :P
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March 18, 2012, 4:21 a.m. CST
I hope that the show Ancient Aliens does a PROMETHEUS special after the film is released
by lv_426
As a slightly skeptical watcher of Ancient Aliens, I think it would be lots of fun.
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March 18, 2012, 4:26 a.m. CST
Disappointed. Follows Alien and Aliens. Some want to take back home (like Ash and "we wouldn't fuck eachother over for a percentage) while others see the danger in this and fight to stop them. Old as the hills that story. Incidentally never knew it fi
by borisdoris
Now on negative watch.
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March 18, 2012, 4:32 a.m. CST
Prometheus high tech-i-ness versus Nostromo run down space trucker aesthetic
by lv_426
Perhaps in the early days of interstellar space exploration, which is when I assume Prometheus takes place in, things were more state of the art for the time and Weyland Industries actually wanted their crews to have the best tech possible. Then after the Prometheus expedition goes sour, Weyland Industries looses money, their stock plummets, and the Yutani merger occurs. This new corporate entity Weyland Yutani is all about the bottom line, and puts together ships using the bare minimum of technology. They aren't as worried about comfort or having the coolest technology, just that their ships work and get from point A to B. Also, during Weyland Industries' glory days, there wasn't nearly as much competition for extra solar exploration and exploitation like mining and colonization. By the time we get to A L I E N and ALIENS, the competition is cutthroat and the Weyland Yutani Corporation is also doing a lot more than just sending a few ships out to poke around. They've got mining operations and terraforming *shake and bake* colonies. They're stretched much thinner than they were back in the days of being just Weyland Industries. So that means that technology is used a lot longer and replaced or fixed only if really needed. Especially for something like a colony like Hadley's Hope, which would need to be self sufficient and not relying on resupply from Earth more than maybe once every couple years.
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Hoping that this movie will be a sci-fi multi-orgasm and not some drunk chick from a High School reunion that vomits on my dong while Celine Dion's Titanic song plays in the back ground. For example, Indiana Jones IV, the Crystal Skullfuck was pretty much a dong-barf. Prometheus is looking good though. I think it will be worth pulling my pants down... er, going to the theater and buying a ticket and putting on some 3D specs.
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March 18, 2012, 4:49 a.m. CST
I can't believe that people are trying to rationalize the tech discrepancies off of a throwaway post I made nitpicking tongue-in-cheek...
by Kai_Mah'gra
People, it's real simple. The discrepancy is explained thus: Prometheus was made in 2011 - when CGI, Green-screening and Adobe After Effects was available. Alien was made in 1979 - when crude animatronics and stop-motion animation were the height of cinema-making technology. End of line. If a young(er) Ridley Scott had today's tools with today's designers back in 1979, you can bet your ass that the ships wouldn't look so cruddy. He worked with what he had (as did Lucas) and he made it work and believable. It's a wonder that he was able to make such a captive Sci-Fi movie for it's time - and which ultimately went on to influence the look and style of future Sci-Fi films that came after it (including this one.) This has nothing to do with Weyland or Weyland-Yutani spending more on their science research vessels than they did on their "Trucker" freight ships or mining ships. (Seperated by over 100 years) That's silly logic on the face of it, because some of the technology would have leaked over anyway. It's everything to do with what the director had to work with. Period. That being said, it's always funny when you try an make a prequel to a movie (especially a Sci-Fi one where techonology and visuals play a large role) after a gap of more than 2 decades has passed because the aging of the orignals will show. Your always better just doing a complete remake or reboot instead of a prequel or even straight sequel and for which reason we should be glad that the Total Recall and Robocop remakes are exactly those and not sequels/prequels.
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...he has Fassbender's posture. Mark my words.
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Funny you should say that. Watching the first trailer I got the impression that it was fassbender slowly changing into the space jockey. But now with fassbender being an android, well it would explain the xenomorph being biomechanoid with a human appearance. If that's the direction they go in. The alien queen statue in the ceiling could throw a wrench in that theory though.
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March 18, 2012, 5:27 a.m. CST
If the 70s Scott had to work with the 2010s movie technology.
by KilliK
you can bet your ass that he would have made a lesser movie and not the masterpiece that Alien is. People ignore a fundamental difference in the two visual styles between Alien and Prometheus: The 'crudy' one makes the Alien universe to feal and look REAL. The "clean" one makes the Prometheus universe to feel and look FAKE. The Prometheus visual style looks so clean,polished,so pleasing to the eye,that it makes the movie feel sterile,artificial,pedestrian. And it is not only the environment in the Prometheus that looks pleasing,it is also the cast: all of them are beautiful women and handsome men,no fatties,no uglies,no oldies,just models and super-models looking cute to appease the average,tween demographic. And to clarify,i am not against the visual style of Prometheus.Personally i like it.But i am very annoyed when i read people who try to defend the visual style of Prometheus by discrediting the marvelous visual style of Alien. that's all.
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And I can safely say this rivals TDKR for anticipation. Ridley you magnificent bastard you!
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is for nothing else to admire the beauty of charlize theron. man, she's beyond description!
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i think one one of the shots we do see an alien standing before a cring crew member. seems like one. maybe Ridley Scott really told the truth, that this is both an alien prequel and not.
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March 18, 2012, 5:47 a.m. CST
Dear AICN: please don't over-hype PROMETHEUS the same you did for JOHN CARTER. Thank you.
by AsimovLives
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The reason, I think, that the xenomorphs don't "appear" in the film is because they don't exist yet. Something will happen during the human's encounter with the space jockey's that precipitates their creation.<br /> <br /> We'll probably see the facehuggers in the final act of the film but not before. We'll see how they're created and this will relate, in some way, to those egglike structures we see in the preview. And at the film's end, we'll see the first alien being born from the evil space jockey, preventing it from reaching Earth. <br /> <br /> But we won't get to see it fully grown. The first alien that lays all the eggs will retain an aura of mystery. This movie could be so amazing. It's hard to refrain from building up hype. What's there really does look awesome.
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David is very much like Ash at the end there... very nice... wow... the gollum like fella at the beginning with the Von Daniken 'Spore' like intro... this just looks more stunning and epic now... a bit of The Doctors Wife thrown in with Fantastic Planet and ATMOM there? Really too overstimulated now. I feel like a proper smackhead jonesing. I need this.
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March 18, 2012, 5:58 a.m. CST
Who wants to bet that Idris Elba is the poor unfortunate who crashes Prometheus into the Derelict
by alexander
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March 18, 2012, 5:59 a.m. CST
Asi I think the enthusiasm for PROMETHEUS is a little more organic
by FluffyUnbound
In the sense that it's rising FROM the site audience, just as much as it's being pushed AT the site audience by the editors here. Just a totally different vibe. JMO.
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i hope you are right. make no mystake, i'm one of the gushers for this movie, though i also want to temper my enthusiasm with lots of caution. and there's the fact of JOH CARTER's incessant promotion, which i found pornographic and counter-productive. A little more restrain would go a long way, if you ask me.
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IF YOU CAN READ THIS, YOU'RE TOO CLOSE.
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The reason they are all so frightened in the trailer is that they have realised the future of humanity is Hurley.
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The reason they are all so frightened in the trailer is that they have realised that the future of humanity is Hurley.
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March 18, 2012, 6:43 a.m. CST
eleanorofaquitaine, wash your mouth, young man. don't pollute Alien with the presence of that Lost trash
by AsimovLives
show some manners.
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Nice looking hike where the guy is saying to Noomi(?) "you're smiling!". Supposed to be Earth or one of those other earth-like worlds they are cataloging for colonization where they found petroglyphs. Kind of reminds me of one of the recent Hobbit production videos, walking on those green & rocky hills!
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March 18, 2012, 6:49 a.m. CST
Asi go tell that to Ridely Scott's face you pompous bitch
by alexander
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is a real artist. My guess is that he tried to get away from the genre and branch out. (Black Hawk Down, Kingdom of Heaven, Gladiator, Robin Hood). I can never forget how disappointed he looked when he lost best director at the Oscars for Gladiator to Soderburgh for Traffic. He stewed there for several minutes. If anyone else truly deserved a best directing Oscar admist the trash movies in the last 30 years (excepting Jackson) it's Ridley. Remember "A Beautiful Mind" won best pic/director over FOTR? Now critics finally agree what a screwed up decision that was. Unlike Lucas, Ridley has ideas and contiunes to have a vision, and not just trying to market toys and make an excuse about the audience not wanting to admit "SW is for kids".
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March 18, 2012, 6:57 a.m. CST
HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!!! That's more awesome than seeing Clooney arressed by the fashion police!!!! Now 'that's' how to make CGI look credible. If I see this in Imax 3D i think my head will explode and i'll jizzstorm!!!..
by cameron
...Now someone tell me that a PG13 makes any difference to suspense in a movie. If Alien was certificated today i doubt it would warrent more than a PG13 or 15 cert. The boundries of censor has changed over the years, a movie like Hostel would have caused outrage 30 odd years ago, but now we just laugh at extreme violence. What people don't consider is the higher script standards of past movies. Alien and RoboCop are sci-fi movies but just look at the cast and the acting, back then we had John Hurt and Kirtwood Smith, today we've got Shia la Duff and Sam Worthlesston......or as i like to call them CLOWN SHOES!! If Ridley Scott can combine killer SFX with a story that's worthy of Alien, i'm in.
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My gawd this summer needs to hurry the fuck up and get here already. Thank goodness I have a 3-D IMAX in my city.
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My excitement just waned a bit. Also, I'm not all that jazzed about suffering through a "Aliens fostered the human race" story anymore then I would say battle-field earth. I sincerely hope this is going to be much more clever, but, alas, it's not likely to be. <P> I'll still go see this, just because but I'm keeping my expectations in check.
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March 18, 2012, 7:08 a.m. CST
UGH! Please don't let this be about humans helping to create Xenomorphs.
by Dr_PepperSpray
I mean, that would just sap the original of any sense of how big and scary space could be. Not to mention it would just be stupid.
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finally a character based casting. Not the usual "Hot Actress I'd like to Fuck" that you U.S.people seem to prefer!
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March 18, 2012, 7:25 a.m. CST
FUUUUUUUUUUUUCK! Wished I hadn't watched that! TOO MUCH SPOILERS! FUCK ME AND MY NON-EXISTENT PATIENCE!
by MariusXe
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If this movie gets mostly good reviews (not even great) it will make its money back several times over worldwide. If it's great....fuck-off, it might overtake The Dark Knight. It's all about the story, good, engrossing, doesn't bore and scares the shit out of people then word of mouth alone will keep in theaters all summer long. If it's like Aliens (sorry but it hasn't aged well) which was basically a B-movie action flick with bad humor and acting (except for Weaver) then it will make money but be gone by midsummer. I'm hoping for it to be smart, not silly, well acted and the best roller coaster crap in my pants ride I've been on since I saw Alien as a kid which was my first R movie too. It and The Shining are still the 2 best horror movies ever made in my opinion. Film schools will be showing these movies a hundred years from now to their students. Let's hope Scott has done it again.
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March 18, 2012, 8:01 a.m. CST
skredly, *If it's like Aliens (sorry but it hasn't aged well) which was basically a B-movie action flick with bad humor and acting (except for Weaver) then it will make money but be gone by midsummer.*
by lv_426
You do know that Aliens was one of the top 10 most successful films of 1986? And quality is not the only deciding factor. The top grossing film for 1986 was Top Gun. Last year it was Harry Potter and Transformers at the top of the charts. I'd wager most people here would choose Aliens over Top Gun and Prometheus over Harry Potter film number 7 part 2 and Transformers Donk of the Moon. If Prometheus has an engrossing story and is exciting then yes, it could be very successful, but let's not blow things out of proportion. Prometheus will most likely not become an Avatar or The Dark Knight size box office behemoth of $ucce$$ that stays in the theaters for months. Hopefully it will be a success though. Why? Because The Dark Knight Rises and The Avengers are pretty much guaranteed to rake in shit loads of money. Prometheus though, harder to know until the fat lady has sung. If Prometheus under performs, or worst case scenario, is a flop, then along with John Carter tanking prepare for the studios to kiss all mid to big budget sci-fi and space opera movies goodbye until Avatar II.
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I agree with djkris, the figure you see near the space jockey chair is the infected and mutating android/replicant. Whether he does this to himself puposefully - "all things start out small" - or accidentally we have yet to see. My guess is the infecting xenomorphs come equiped with something like dna/nanochipped memory and so the reborn android will have access to the Alien tech quickly.
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you know,a part of me wants for Prometheus to flop for this exact reason.
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March 18, 2012, 8:20 a.m. CST
=which was basically a B-movie action flick with bad humor and acting=
by KilliK
and Alien was basically a B-movie monster movie set in space with sweaty people running in hallways and alarms screaming for the second half of the film. SEE? I CAN DO THE GENERALIZATION THING FOR ALL MOVIES TOO.
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March 18, 2012, 8:28 a.m. CST
killik, if Sir Ridley pulls this off, then ALIENS becomes the finale in a perfect trilogy...
by BurnHollywood
...Rather than Fincher's visionary-but-hopelessly-studio-flawed ALIEN^3.
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Especially if you watch them in succession the 80s cheese of Aliens is borderline unbearable. Fun movie and all but imho doesn't really sustain the quality of the original
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alien and aliens are two completely different genre movies thus their comparison is retarded.
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what's your problem, dude?
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March 18, 2012, 9:17 a.m. CST
Unless I missed something in the original ALIEN, the company was only called "the company"
by Son of a Butch
and was given the name Weyland-Yutani in ALIENS. So by having Weyland in this, they're clearly acknowledging ALIENS.
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I think you guys might be right about that theory. I just hope that David melding with space jockey biotech is not the origin of the classic alien creatures. I still feel the notion of the classic Alien beasts being minions and bioweapons for the space jockeys is the best reason for their existence. That is, if Prometheus actually goes to the trouble to explain their origins. I am guessing that with the alien (queen?) figure embedded in the wall or ceiling in the new trailer, that the classic xenomorph was around before the crew of the Prometheus started poking around in that giant alien pyramid. Also, do we know if that planet is LV-426/Acheron? It looks a bit different but then again, Ridley decided to not be completely slavish to his space trucker aesthetic from the original Alien. The reason this notion excites me is that perhaps we will get to explore that giant pyramid in Aliens: Colonial Marines? That might be how they are going to have some connection between Prometheus and Aliens CM the game. One thing I am surprised no one has said much about is the part of the new trailer that shows the bald grey dude by the giant waterfall. He seems to be changing or dying as he raises his hand and looks at it. Then you've got the big saucer ship in the background. To me this is the most WTF is happening part of the trailer. Is this a scene of a human on ancient Earth, or perhaps another terraformed world? Is this world with the waterfall the desolate sorta Acheron looking planet the Prometheus sets down on? Is the infected dude a jockey that was infected by some uppity Earth humans that got tired of their space god? Crazy stuff.
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least you forget, boith Alien and Aliens are sciecne fiction movies. that's the genre they inhabit primarily. They have influences from other genres, Alien with horror and Aliens with war movies. But the main thing is they are the same genre movies, SF. They are both chocolate cakes, but one has a vanilla cover and the other a strawberry cover. Personally, i think ALIEN is the better of the two. It still fells fresh today, the aestetic hold up admirably, the cinematography makes it look like it was shot yesterday, the production design never betrays which decade the movie was shot, and if you ignore the special effects and the actors age you would be hard pressed to guess what decade it was made. Alien stands the test of time. Aliens, however, has dated quite a lot. You can't pass Aliens for anythign else but a through and through 80s movie. It's a period piece.
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March 18, 2012, 9:23 a.m. CST
This trailer and the first full trailer for The Dark Knight are my favorites ALL TIME!!!
by notcher
Wow, definitely excited about this one. It's weird though, not too long ago we knew nothing about this movie at all, now it's coming to theaters in like what, 80 days? Can't wait. What a fucking year we have coming!!!!!!!!!!!!! BRING IT!!!!!!
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March 18, 2012, 9:23 a.m. CST
Is Prometheus going to be about how gods are always destined to be destroyed by their subjects and/or creations?
by lv_426
Then a new god or pantheon of gods rising up in their place, only to be destroyed by new creations, etc... a continuous cycle of creation and destruction like an Ouroboros. Just a guess as to the theme of the film.
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To compare "Alien" and "Aliens" is like comparing "8 1/2" with "Armageddon." You just don't do it, way too different to make the comparison. It would make more sense to not include the Alien films and just say "I like action over sci fi horror." Or vice versa. Either way, never did like that argument.
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March 18, 2012, 9:30 a.m. CST
Being both scifi movies doesnt mean that they can be compared with each other.
by KilliK
Otherwise lets compare Alien with BTTF and 2001 since they are all scifi movies. Alien and Aliens belong to different genres or sub-genres if you like. As you correctly say,Alien is a scifi horror movie,Aliens is a scifi war movie. It makes more sense to compare Alien with Alien 3 or with Event Horizon than compare it with Aliens which is suitable more comparable with Alien 4 or even Dog Soldiers. Hell even Iron Jim has stated that he wanted to make an entire different movie with Aliens because,as he wisely put it,nobody could top the original if he tried to make the same film.
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If "Prometheus" turns out to be as good as we hope. I'll just erase the rest of them from my memory and treat the real "Alien" movies as a trilogy. Part 3 was bad, and 4 was borderline unwatchable, and one of the worst scripts to ever hit the big screen. I almost vomited in "Resurrection" when wormtongue said "Beautiful butterfly!" My God what a terrible movie!!!! "Prometheus" has the chance to wash away the flayer of shit that has haunted this series ever since Alien 3 came out.
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March 18, 2012, 9:34 a.m. CST
Asi go tell that to Ridely Scott's face you pompous bitch
by alexander
RE: "eleanorofaquitaine, wash your mouth, young man. don't pollute Alien with the presence of that Lost trash And I suspect you know full well what the problem is, so I reiterate: Go tell that to Ridely Scott's face you pompous bitch"
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But that's just because I prefer that style of film more. Just sayin.
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March 18, 2012, 9:43 a.m. CST
I've never had a problem with Alien and Aliens being two films that stand up perfectly fine next to each other
by lv_426
Like two peas in a pod... or two chestbursters in a single host might be more appropriate. It certainly helps that they both have a similar aesthetic quality. Aliens still has a gritty feel, that space truckers style of sci-fi just transposed to the futuristic military angle. Also, the colony of Hadley's Hope is very much in keeping with the while blue collar hard ass pioneering spirit of the crew of the Nostromo (except for Ash maybe). I also happen to think that in Aliens, the storm battered planetoid of Acheron looks pretty darn close to the way it looked in the original Alien. Then you've got the whole arc of Ripley tying the two films together. To me, I don't see Aliens as just an action film either. It has a nice bit of tension and creepy foreboding leading up to the first encounter the marines have with the aliens in the atmosphere processor.
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March 18, 2012, 9:45 a.m. CST
Loving this trailer, it´s not showing everything. - playmo.tv is the shit
by Bjarni
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March 18, 2012, 9:47 a.m. CST
Alien:TC > Alien: DC > Prometheus trailers > Alien 3:SE > Aliens:TC > Aliens:SE > Alien 3:TC > Alien Resurrection in any form
by Karl Hungus
That's just how it is.
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March 18, 2012, 9:48 a.m. CST
bio stuff COATS THE DERELICT to make it look like the one in Alien after millions of years!
by angelopoulos
Everything looks fused together because of the virus or whatever it is in those "ampules". This movie is going to be great.
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One is a SEQUEL to the other. Since when is that not a basis for comparison/contrast? Because they're "different genres"? Give me a break.
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Well, if Rapace gets impregnated ... she has a Xenomorph growing inside her. So she dies anyway. That means she can bind herself to the ship as a navigator (in spacejockey suit) as seen in the trailer to keep the ship from starting towards earth and send the warning signal that leads the Nostromo to the derelict ship years later. The last scene in the movie is an alien queen bursting out of her chest through the exoskeleton suit (explaining hole in the suit in Alien later on). So the Nostromo crew actually finds her and the 'cannon' is not a cannon but the transmitter of the warning signal. I guess the trailer has shown too much, again. Her praying is saying goodbye or (if Christian undertones) asking for forgiveness. *sigh*
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March 18, 2012, 9:57 a.m. CST
And please, you're not "educating" anyone about the different genres
by Thunderbolt Ross
Every nerd on here has known since they were sucking at their mother's teat that "Alien is sci-fi horror" and "Aliens is sci-fi action" ... or WHATEVER. That doesn't mean one can't be deemed better than the other. Here's a little mental exercise, try and get those brain muscles working: Which is better, The Godfather or Deuce Bigalow: Male Gigalo. What's that? You can't make that judgment because they're different genres? INTERESTING. Because I can. And those are two wholly unrelated movies UNLIKE ALIEN AND ALIENS WHICH ARE WHOLLY RELATED
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is that they had that scene where Ripley 8 finds all the other mutated attempts they made trying to clone her. That was the best scene of the movie because you saw some real imagination going on with the various 1-7 aborted cloning attempts. These were not just the alien creatures recycled or the miscalculation that was the newborn. Why didn't they get Giger back on board to design some new biomechanoids? Instead of having the 1-7 Ripley clones with xenomorph DNA just floating in formaldehyde, why not have taken that opportunity to have up to seven brand new and terrifying alien creatures stalking the heroes of the film. Sure throw in some regular old Xenomorphs too, as in the underwater sequence for instance. Damn... what a missed opportunity.
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A lot of people will say "I prefer Aliens because it's action packed and has lots of gunfire and explosions and shit." Others will say "I prefer Alien because it's a tense, thriller that builds towards the ending with great single moments of thrills throughout. So it really depends more on what genre you prefer. "Alien" is not an action movie while "Aliens" is for the most part. So the comparison is really more about which genre you like more.
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March 18, 2012, 10:03 a.m. CST
Can anyone else make out the glowing green object at 1:59?
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Is that the Jockey helmet at the foot of the grey figure and Jockey chair? I mentioned this before but nada.
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March 18, 2012, 10:05 a.m. CST
re: "both Alien and Aliens are science fiction movies. that's the genre they inhabit primarily."
by buggerbugger
both Alien and Aliens are science fiction movies. that's the genre they inhabit primarily. I'm not sure I'd agree with that, asi. 'Alien' is a horror movie in sci-fi trappings and 'Aliens' is an action movie in sci-fi trappings. The setting isn't as important as the tone. For instance, are 'Galaxy Quest' and 'Spaceballs' primarily sci-fi movies? They're comedies - because of the tone - in sci-fi trappings. You could take the same basic story of 'Alien' and set it in a 19th-century gothic mansion and it would be pretty much the same movie, swapping alien monster with ungodly demon summoned forth on an overseas trip to a mysterious island, a demon that chases people around dark corridors, hiding in attics or basements and hiding itself away underneath the sole survivor's horse-drawn carriage at the end of the movie, only to be jettisoned over the side of the nearest cliff.
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I can't tell, in same boat as you are.
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They always were a bit twitchy.
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Just to clarify about my opinion of Aliens. I liked the movie a lot, but it's marine stereotypes and the stereotypical banter the actors have to say is just bad especially since this stereotype has been overused for decades now. When I saw Aliens originally I left stunned because the last 40 minutes or so are some of the best action and sci-fi put on screen. I agree that the 2 films are different genres to sum degree but they are part of the series and can't be separated. Terminator 1 & 2 are also good examples of the differences. T1 was geniunely scary to me and had a great story. T2 was better quality, story wise than Aliens, but like it was more action than scary and completely worked. Aliens does the same but as many films as I see and with sci-fi and horror being my favorites I am critical of sub-par when I see it. Cameron did the series well except for what I've mentioned. I just want this one to be more scary than funny and really leave me in an uncomfortable way, but thinking hard of what ideas they are presenting. Good sci-fi is supposed to do that. I don't back down that if this film nails it they will see amazing revenues from it. The Dark Knight like most of Nolan's films made you think and there are a lot of people who don't normally go to these kind of "action horror sci-fi" films but do these because they are smart. They will be ones that pad the grosses for this movie. But then again it could be all hype and just bad....not the first time it's happened.
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in mutated SpaceJockey form before the clip of 'small things'? So she keeps him from getting off planet as sole survivor? And then takes his place ...
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Right. Try finding a business whose products cost tens of millions of dollars that doesn't. It's hysterically obvious that anyone who says that that shouldn't be their concern has never, ever made a living producing and marketing products. And the reason so much stupid shit comes out of Hollywood? Because stupid shit comes out of any industry. Because the average industry is made up of people of average intelligence, on average...like this Talkback. Which means some smart people, some stupid people, and lots of people who think their opinions are gospel, even if they have zero experience. Read through a talkback, add up the I.Q.s, add about ten points on average (the minimum buy-in to work in Hollywood really does seem to be a law degree, no kidding) and you'll understand what produces the movies.
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March 18, 2012, 10:19 a.m. CST
Der Alien and Aliens are obviously related, but they are two entirely different kinds of movies.
by Brian Hopper
Aliens is one of the greatest action films ever made. And as lv_426 points out, it has other elements (like the creepy buildup to the first encounter with the aliens) that are not pure action elements. It also has a strong emotional throughline for Ripley that makes the film satisfying on a personal level. The notion that it has '80s cheese' that's 'borderline unbearable' is ridiculous. I don't think it's very dated at all relative to <insert random 80s action film here>. It holds up really well. And I say all that as a longtime Alien fanatic who worships that sci-fi/horror masterpiece.
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... 'relative to *insert random 80s action movie here*'
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Clearly the black guy is gonna die!!!!
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Chills. CHILLS! What a great trailer. First the full Avengers trailer, now this...your move, Dark Knight.
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March 18, 2012, 10:36 a.m. CST
Original ALIEN is close to being a PG-13 in today's world -- it CAN work
by Dursman2000
Some of you gorehounds should go back and look at the first film again. There are PG-13 films made today that are basically more violent. The gore in ALIEN is very quick and not on screen particularly long. This film, I would not think, is going to be as gory anyway.
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That's the way you do it. This is a well laid out ad campaign. This is the movie that I can see myself calling in sick for work to see the first showing on opening day. In contrast to this we have the ad campaign for John Carter. I saw the movie last night in IMAX 3D and loved it. (If you want to avoid a bad 3D presentation: darkened screen due to improper projector bulb output; I've always had luck with IMAX 3D. Real D? Not so much.) I went in knowing the source material comes from the time of authors like Jules Verne, H.G.Wells, and, of course, Edgar Rice Burroughs. So I knew what I was getting. I was already familiar with the author. I knew the story was from 100 years ago and was based on science for that time mixed with a healthy dose of fantasy. The ad campaign has none of this. They stripped the title of any identity. From the original, A Princess of Mars to John Carter? John Carter? a sequel to Get Carter? So soon? First mistake, taking Mars out of the title. People don't know what to think about the dude with a sword and a bunch of weird looking creatures. Second mistake, no mention of Edgar Rice Burroughs. From the mind of Edgar, from the books of Edgar, whatever. Many people would make the connection, hey, didn't he write Tarzan? Yeah, and I think some stuff about Mars too. Their ad campaign just doesn't capture the movie. Period. And then they call it John Carter. They had a good kicker, but the guy placing the snap for him was a total asshat. Prometheus on the other hand, they know what they've got and they know how to sell it. Bravo, Ridley. You've got my ass in a seat.
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I say Nolan should leave it as is, let us know nothing, and it'll be far more exciting.
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I dont think is Rapace, I think its one of the guys with something growing on his damn head. I bet its related to the person yelling "cut it off!" in the other scene.
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After seeing this trailer. The whole "R" thing doesn't concern me at all. The stuff I saw is more than interesting enough to be awesome. Don't need a bunch of F-words or gruesome violence to make it any better. I think this film will stand on its own no matter what the rating. I'm really excited about this.
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The person is wearing the same kind of chest covering. And I've been admiring Noomi's skin and complexion in this movie, and those are definitely her smooth, glistening legs.
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Outland, if anyone remembers it, is a cool, gritty sci-fi actioner set on jupiter's moon, Io. But what always strikes me about it is how it would be a perfect setting for an alien film. It has almost exactly the same look as Alien--no accident, as the same production designer was involved, and even has the same composer in Jerry Goldsmith. Great little movie, sadly alll but forgotten.
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Does anybody have any recommendations of getting semen stains out of one's underwear?
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March 18, 2012, 11:11 a.m. CST
facehugger debate ? if you look there is blood splatered either side of tube.....chestburster ?
by shane daley
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Is not the jockey helmet. On closer inspection from hd screencaps. It looks like some kind of crystal ball device...and please people questioning the facehugger debate. Look again at the stills on Prometheus forum. Its a chestburster or something very very similar. Xenomorph shaped, long thrashing tail etc.
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but I'm going to be honest I have as much faith in this as I do TDKR. I'll wait till I see it. Also love that the technology looks far more advanced in this than in Alien, but that's to be expected. The trailer didn't thrill me, but it made me interested. Looks much better than Avatar.
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March 18, 2012, 11:59 a.m. CST
Everything in the trailers backs-up the synopses that've been floating around for months ...
by unclemonty666
... I just hope Ridley's holding some stuff back, otherwise I fear we've already got a condensed version of the whole film.
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March 18, 2012, 12:04 p.m. CST
Not really an alien fan, but this trailer has me really intrigued.
by thatswhatshesaid
Great music, raises all sorts of questions, and shows amazing images. That's the way you do a trailer.
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March 18, 2012, 12:09 p.m. CST
Why do people capitalize video game titles around here?
by NotEnoughBiehn
It's like they think that's impressive that they're playing a popular game. Tell me you're playing something that's not lowest common denominator, like Crusdader Kings 2, and I might be impressed with your taste and discernment
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March 18, 2012, 12:09 p.m. CST
It's really sad that an uninspired tired cartoon franchise like BATMAN is garnering the same excitement as PROMETHEUS among certain people...
by MENTALDOMINANCE
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March 18, 2012, 12:11 p.m. CST
Modern video games are time wasters for idiots. Give me the classics any day.
by MENTALDOMINANCE
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I used to love reading those DH books ... I like this
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find ship .. go inside .. neat neat neat stuff .. separate *dumb* - navigator area blonde dude .. face hugger - bio change *(?)* to the alien (navigator) we know and love in origional egg chamber scene - fly away? .. chrash land by flying into it .. end? Meh .. I'm still going ..
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it's the other way around. Both Alien and Aliens are clearly Sf movies. But they also have components from other genres. And that's the beauty of SF. Sf uis the most flexible genre there is, you can mix any other genre with it. Anything. Romance, drama, comedy, war, action, horror, whatever genre there is, it can be mixed with SF. It's one of the reasons why i love Sf so much. Aliena nd Aliens are primary Sf movies. Which were very sucessfully mixed with other genres. That you think the SF element cames afterwars is in fact you giving not only the movies proper a high praise, but also the Sf genre, that can absorve any other genre. It's sad that for the kost part, most people mistake SF merely as Star Wars movies. Because SF is a whole huge world of which SW is just a small province. And if you followed the Brian Aldiss definition of SF, like i do, many othet stories and movies which most people do not define aas Sf would be though as such, like, say, THE HUNT FOR THE RED OCTOBER.
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Can you link me to that forum? I can't seem to find ANYTHING with screencaps, and I feel my life at this moment need screencaps!!!
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i really liked it. Goldsmith's score is great.
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To unparalleled_android -- "Dark Knight" is comics related; "Hobbit" is classic Tolkien: and "Prometheus" is original sci-fi. To compare the three is impossible -- like "apples" and "cucumbers" and "chocolate cake." I plan to enjoy each for what it is.
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March 18, 2012, 12:47 p.m. CST
the trailers and promotion of PROMETHEUS is admirable. This is how you do it.
by AsimovLives
Everybody responsible for the advertizement of PROMETHEUS should get a raise. Damn good job!
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March 18, 2012, 12:48 p.m. CST
i saw a youtube video with charlize theron and michael fassbender promoting Prometheus
by AsimovLives
and man, Theron is so gorgeaus ther eit's beyond description. Long haired, very charming and friedly, acting quite goofy... total babelicious! She has to be the most gorgeaus women working in Holywood!
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March 18, 2012, 12:50 p.m. CST
there was rumours that there would be lesbian sex in PROMETHEUS
by AsimovLives
and we all know that Theron and Rapace are no stranger to onscreen lesbian sex. I'm so hoping those are not just rumous that will also be in the movie.
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"Not an ALIEN prequel"? Yeah, right! I have such a hard-on for this! (please be incredible!)
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March 18, 2012, 1:02 p.m. CST
This just in from Variety's Wondercon report, Scott came clean... "Prometheus" is a full-on "Alien" prequel!!!
by David
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March 18, 2012, 1:04 p.m. CST
OUTLAND is one of those films that I really want to like... But every time I watch it, it's the same boring Ridley Scott lite Peter Hyams film.
by MENTALDOMINANCE
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You could say the "Alien" franchise has been dead and tired for 20 years, last time I checked, Batman's been alive since 2005. I respect your opinion dude, but you good sir are in the minority. I'm excited for both, let us enjoy them both without claiming that one is emphatically superior to the other, considering unless you have already seen "Prometheus," you don't know if it's any good or not. The trailer looks great, but great trailers don't mean great movies. A most unfortunate fact. And no, I'm not being malicious in talking at you either.
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One of the worst films I have ever seen and didnt bother with 2. This trailer looks amazing. A proper sci-fi film. I am there day one.
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March 18, 2012, 1:19 p.m. CST
notcher: No it just seems everything today is mediocre, childish and dumbed down for a video game playing, a.d.d. generation. Worship of mediocre to poor hacks like Peter Jackson, Christopher Nolan and the rest... The work these people produce is nowhere
by MENTALDOMINANCE
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March 18, 2012, 1:20 p.m. CST
near the work film makers from yesteryear produced. Shouldn't things be getting BETTER, not WORSE?
by MENTALDOMINANCE
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March 18, 2012, 1:20 p.m. CST
I'm just sick of the complacency and sometimes out right self deception that it seems some people have about modern film.
by MENTALDOMINANCE
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March 18, 2012, 1:32 p.m. CST
Good for you cockcheese, now let the real grownups continue to not give a shit about your childish drivel opinion and get on with this talkback
by al
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I see you write a bit of it yourself. Most fanboys are geeking out over this and Avengers. If your "geeking out" button (I know, more drivel, poor me who's having a great time) is in need of service, I know some people who can help. Do you like boys or girls?
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March 18, 2012, 1:40 p.m. CST
The sheer fact most fanboys are geeking ou over Batman and Avengers is simply a warning beacon to stay away from those mentally defecient films. So sick of "popcorn" movies. Can't we grow up?
by MENTALDOMINANCE
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March 18, 2012, 1:42 p.m. CST
I am a film lover. Not a "geek" that gets hard every time a man in spandex appears.
by MENTALDOMINANCE
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But most idiots today assume that it has something to do with pedophiles, not cinema!
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March 18, 2012, 1:59 p.m. CST
zardoz: hahah so true... Stupid idiots of today... I'm an audiophile and a cinephile.
by MENTALDOMINANCE
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Mentaldominance, I love Ridley Scott, I'm a huge fan, but even he has made some dogshit in the past. "Robin Hood" was a fucking mess, and Scott and Crowe admitted as much. Now, I'm not sure why you said you don't follow plot or stories. Hype I get ignoring, but as a film lover you don't follow plot or stories????? Not sure what that's about. All I'm saying is that if you put what Nolan makes in the same category as "Tron Legacy" and "John Carter," then I don't really have much respect for how you see movies. I'm sorry, I just don't understand your argument. Yes, there's a lot of shit out there, but Nolan isn't contributing to that. Yes, Jackson made King Kong and I thought it was dogshit, but LOTR was great, not sure why anyone wouldn't like that, but whatever, we all like what we like. Sorry, I just disagree.
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Its a good movie and all, but its just really High Noon set in space, with a very nifty series of sets (some taken from Alien).
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I'm not saying this looks bad but it looks identical to about 20 (or more) trailers to previous sci-fi flicks. Could be good but I wouldn't pay to see this. And what was the last really good Ridley Scott film? (Not a sarcastic remark but actual question.)
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seem to spend more time discussing brainless tentpole movies than they do in discussing A Dangerous Method, Shame, or Cave of Forgotten Dreams....
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Like Velvet_sloane says OUTLAND is HIGH NOON in space. A western. So it doesn't actually need any crazy conceits like time travel or alien races any of that stuff - and imho that gives it a nice grounded feel. It's blue collar men in space - with Sean Connery the most manly of them all! Not pretending it's a brilliant film for regular movie goers - but for so-called sci fi fans if you haven't seen OUTLAND then you really ought to. You can't call yourself a sci-fi fan if you only watch the triple A titles like ALIEN, BLADE RUNNER, AVATAR, etc. You have to descend down and fill your knowledge with the second tier too!
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March 18, 2012, 2:27 p.m. CST
INTERNATIONAL TRAILER IS UP, AND IT'S EVEN MORE FUCKING AWESOME!!! if anyone at aicn is here post it quick, it's up over at comicbookmovie now!
by cameron
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Prometheus looks awesome.... But what's with the sudden sucking of Ridley's cock as a cinema god? He's made nothing but shit films for decades.
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Wow. I think this may shock people on the box office it could generate.
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You gotta be fuckin kiddin?! What about Gladiator, Black Hawk Down or American Gangster? Hell, even the Director's cut of Kingdom of Heaven is top notch. Is your opinion simply based on the fact he's stayed away from Sci-Fi since Blade Runner or... are you simply trolling?
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What about Legend, Someone to Watch Over Me, Body of Lies, Gladiator, Black Hawk Down? I thought those were superb, and I know I could've named more (and I know some of you will disagree with my choices), but heck, he's made a shedload of great films.
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March 18, 2012, 2:50 p.m. CST
Yet ANOTHER Trailer, UK version has even more stuff!!!
by angelopoulos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9jRaa4Wkbk&feature=youtu.be
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excited for the first time
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So let me get this straight. If you pause it on the space jockey cockpit shot, we see giant baldy man (maybe fassbender having evolved into something / the bald guy at the start??) and you see the giant chair. Now i might be crazy but it looks like the elephant snout thing turned upright at the top of the chair. so once baldy sits in he is strapped in by those 'ribs' and the elephant face thing is a mask? So really the space jockey remains we see in alien are just a suit? Is this old news? Have i just stated the obvious or am I onto something here?? Anyway i should probably just shutup and wait to see the film...
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Awww, look at 'em holding hands.
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March 18, 2012, 2:56 p.m. CST
Most people who don't like Ridley's work don't understand what he brings to film...
by MENTALDOMINANCE
Every film by Scott I can think of has deep subtext. Characters with quirks who often express deep philosophical ideas. It doesn't matter what the genre is. I love film made this way. That's why there are two types of moviegoers. One type follows subject matter and often either can't tell or won't acknowledge the difference between a shit film and a masterful one because all they're looking for is data input. The second type follows the film makers themselves. We love the way they make the film. The style they apply. Their artistic sensibilities. To me, that's what film is about. It doesn't matter what the genre is. The same guy who made ALIEN, BLADE RUNNER, and PROMETHEUS also made The Duellists, Thelma and Louise, Kingdom of Heaven and Gladiator. It's what all of these films have in common with each other that I love. So this is what I mean about subject matter being irrelevant and for the record, I've never said it doesn't matter. I've just stated that it's become an over used gimmick... Like fan boys arguing over who could win in a fight between Batman and Spiderman. Sure... If you know the logic, the arguments will make sense... But it's still pointless. That's what films that don't work are like. The audience shouldn't have to work to enjoy something. They also shouldn't have to know anything about the shit before they've seen the movie. A film should stand alone as a whole and be judged that way. Many films today are not this. They're predesigned to cater to a certain demographic and all they essentially become is useless data transmission of pointless facts created within the fanboy universe it's self. And studios know this certain demographics will see ANYTHING, no matter how poorly executed, so long as it contains their beloved "data". THAT is what I have a problem with. Directors that simply transmit data but have no artistic or deeper sense that a true master brings the the table. I want subtext. It's a disgrace and an insult to audiences to make a "popcorn" movie that fills your brain with tons of data... But none of it means anything. That's what's wrong with shit today and it's what the difference is between a director like Ridley Scott and many of the other guys. PROMETHEUS is going to ponder the nature of existence it's self. And it won't bash us over the head about it. All those other little threads will be intuitively gained in multiple viewings, like all Ridley's work. People who don't understand a movie like Kingdom of Heaven don't get it because they expect it to be what it isn't. It's a deep, philosophical and pondering movie on the nature of good and evil and religion and all sorts of things. People who aren't looking for a deep experience are people who aren't looking for real art. Real art is supposed to move you and cause you to change in positive ways. It's not just supposed to feed you candy and take your cash. That's the problem with shit today. I hope I have clarified things.
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Looks like it is breathing.
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Hi Asimonlives...am I wrong? Ridly Scott gets the writer of Lost on board. They send out a space ship owned by the Dharma Initiative...no, wait...Weyland Industries...they find a giant statue of a foot on a beach...no, wait...a giant statue of a head in a cave... Will there be a lighthouse...? (who knows...maybe...a beacon) Will there all all dead at the end...? Yep. Is Hurley the future of humanity...? is...Harry Knowles? OK, I'm burbling now... Back on track: how much of the mythology of Lost seems to be embedded in this trailer? (origins of humanity, evil corporations trying to unlock the fire of Prometheus? Giant statues that are familiar yet unknowable?) Scary, huh?
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March 18, 2012, 3:05 p.m. CST
The UK trailer has a lot more meat from the first act, before the ship and with the crew. Check it out.
by reflecto
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March 18, 2012, 3:07 p.m. CST
Noomi has staples!! Like there was a crude c-section performed!
by marineboy
Check the trailer as she's staggering around half naked.
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loving the "silicone based life form" theory
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March 18, 2012, 3:10 p.m. CST
I wonder if Prometheus will be as rich in subtext as Bladerunner?
by marineboy
Bladerunner surely has to be one of the most intellectually intricate films of recent times. Ok, it's played out like a film noir, but some of the intricacies of the work leave me in awe that someone could make something so detailed.
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That a ridiculous premise like Batman fighting Spiderman inspires a question at all. Even if one were to accommodate such a pointless scenario, there is only one answer to a person who is actually a thinking adult and not a fan-boy, and it takes about 2 seconds to come up with it. The problem with escapist entertainment today is they cater to the people with the wrong answer to that question.
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Different but equally awesome.
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Now I really am scared.
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...it's also just High Noon in outer space. If anyone who's ever claimed that Avatar is just Dances with Wolves in blueface says they're fine with Outland, then they can safely be ignored. (Of course, I'm not talking about any of you fine people...) It's one of the most heartbreakingly mundane, unimaginative sf films ever made. What's the point of making a film set in Jupiter space, if the story works just as well, or better, on Earth? lisab, you said you're not a defender of the film, and neither am I (though it's got a nice performance by Frances Sterhagen in it), so I'm certainly not disagreeing with you on that score. But I'm puzzled by the narrow role you see for "legitimate" sf. The other day, I saw some of your thoughts on hard sf in a discussion on one of the other talkbacks (didn't have time to jump in, unfortunately), and was sort of shocked by how little play there is in the leash you'd put it on. Science fiction, even the hard stuff, is not just an extrapolative field, it's a speculative one. It's not just about the probable or the inevitable, it's about the possible. I'm fortunate enough to know Gregory Benford fairly well. He's a plasma physicist & astrophysicist, and knows how to balance his equations. He's also something of a provocateur, infamous for writing an essay that said fantasy was poison and was usually written by people who "couldn't handle the hard stuff". His is one of the most respected reputations in hard sf, but he couldn't have written any of it by your standards. His most famous novel was the Nebula-winning Timescape, involving a scientist in 1963 receiving a message from the future via tachyons, particles that can never travel slower than light. It was much praised for its realism, its depiction of how scientists work, its carefully thought through scientific rationale. But by your standards, it's shoddy fantasy. There's no such thing as time travel. Full stop. Half his books have aliens in them, well designed, rigorously worked out aliens. Wait. There are no aliens. Full stop. There's not many hard sf writers that make your cut. Clarke? Childhood's End, 2001, Rendezvous with Rama all have aliens. Three strikes. Hal Clement, whom the term was coined for in the 50s, who was famous for designing planetary systems from scientific first principles? Aliens and interstellar travel. Do not pass go. Poul Anderson, who played The Game, as they called it, with Clement to see who was better at creating scientifically plausible worlds? Same sins. Fail. Asimov? Galactic empires and faster than light travel? Ditto. Hard sf has always allowed you one speculation, wild as you like, as long as you develop its consequences in a rigorous manner. It's also always known that science is incomplete and sometimes gets it wrong; so it allows you to deny Einstein, as wrong as whatever you replace him with doesn't contradict the rest of what we know. To restrict sf to whatever's currently on the drawing boards is to impoverish it. It removes its capacity to astonish, its sense of wonder, even its sense of simple surprise, and replaces them with what Kingsley Amis once called "new maps of hell." Now there's a place for that. There's a place for awful warnings and next-year's-model; that's part of the field, too. I admire Stand on Zanzibar (set in far-off 2010) and the similar books by John Brunner, and the near-future genetic thrillers of Nancy Kress. I admire the uncomfortable, uncompromising work by Paolo Bacigalupi depicting our likely, climate-wrecked future, such as The Windup Girl. There's even an argument to be made that sf should spend more time on the immediate social and ecological consequences of our current tech. Geoff Ryman has started a movement called Mundane SF to do that (which you might want to google; I think you'd like it). But Ryman also writes fantasy, and Brunner wrote space opera, and Nancy Kress writes about aliens, too. You can (and should) have both. Even the highest-flying bird has to light and land sometime. But you shouldn't cut off its wings.
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Apple trailers website.. Time for a frame by frame look!
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You know full well who did. Credit where credit is due.
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March 18, 2012, 3:30 p.m. CST
What pretentious twaddle. Outland was a lovely western in space. That's all. By your rigorous standards 90% of science fiction is invalid. That's no fun.
by reflecto
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March 18, 2012, 3:32 p.m. CST
There are two kinds of people on this planet; Those with taste and refinement who at least respect Sir Ridley Scotts Films..
by conspiracy
And people who live in trailers and fuck their sisters.
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Not sure if it's because my fellow Alien or Scott fans are bright, positive and know their topic better than all related Wikipedia topics combined or because this reads like a geek orgasm that doesn't end, but I am digging it. Word.
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Mr. kisskissbangbang's not a fooooool. Great post!
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March 18, 2012, 3:40 p.m. CST
WHY DO I GET THE IMPRESSION THAT PROMETHEUS FEELS MORE LIKE A:RESURRECTION THAN ALIEN?
by KilliK
i get a lot of A:Resurrection vibe from all those trailers. People shooting,mutations,androids with a more prominent role,biological rather than cosmic horror,two different teams,something about a bioenginered/mutated/human-hybrid starbeast or something and so on. OFC that doesnt mean that Prometheus will turn out a bad movie like Resurrection is,i am only saying that the Alien fans might get something entirely different than they are expecting from this new entry.
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i had grouped movie goers much the same.. i call the former movie lovers- those just looking to be entertained. the latter, i call film lovers- those looking for expert craftsmanship at every level of the film making process.
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March 18, 2012, 3:46 p.m. CST
alot of people don't know this has anything to do with Alien...
by The Dum Guy
I've talked to several friends who are psyched to see this movie based on the trailers/ads, but when I tell them "It is kinda a prequel to Alien", which they then seem disapointed to hear. I then tell them that there isn't going to be any xenomorphs, which makes them seem more optomistic.
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March 18, 2012, 3:46 p.m. CST
I am not watching anything more about this movie until opening night.
by Ironhelix
I want this to wash over me like the original "Alien" did the first time I saw it all those years ago. I feel like I did when I saw the trailer for "The Empire Strikes Back", back before the internet, or media over-hype. I want it to be like it was in the old days, when a movie came out, and you went to see it completely cold. I know I'm already too late, but I am going to try to preserve as much of my ignorance about this as I possibly can. It's the least I can do for Mr. Scott, who has obviously put his heart into this.
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March 18, 2012, 3:48 p.m. CST
A lot of people living in trailers here today, conspiracy...
by kisskissbangbang
...as long as it's Sir Ridley's trailer.
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March 18, 2012, 3:48 p.m. CST
How are people seeing a Facehugger at 2:03? It's clearly a
by NeoDevilbaneX
CHESTBUSTER. There's even blood on the tube, like it chestbursted out of her and is being suspended above Noomi with some kind of forceps, writhing around. Probably she did surgery on herself.
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March 18, 2012, 3:52 p.m. CST
@aquanaut you should use your definitions in the opposite way.
by KilliK
movie = to move,to cause emotions film = the physical medium. so movie > film as content goes. and this comes from Sir Christopher Lee himself.
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Less spoilery ;)
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at least one looking like what we're familiar with. High res screen caps show something eel like, with the head of a mudpuppy.
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Aliens in this context have evolved to artificial intelligence. They realized long ago that to evolve and spread they need different types of cybernetic life to evolve. Being robots, they can't waste time watching random events take place. They seed plants with life in the image of their original creators since that race gave rise to them. Left behind is a clue/trojan horse of sorts to find them. If a race can find them, they must have significantly advanced technology that could be integrated with the parent robot race and all that needs to be done for further robot evolution is to remove the slag so to speak--meaning people. That is what the exomorphs are designed to do. That is why at least on a kinship sort of level Ash was so engaged by these beings. It seems that David is as engaged but since this batch of aliens does not reach earth, David is still a slave to humans or dislikes a nasty trick. I certainly hope it does not steer closer to some of those leaked scrips online.
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Looks like a snail crawling out of the Predator's shoulder cannon. Ridley is going to truly mess with our collective geek mind on this one. And, the international trailer shows the story-telling quality is going to be first-rate. This is a horror movie with a heart; something that made Aliens the classic that it is.
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March 18, 2012, 3:59 p.m. CST
@skredly you ignore something.You judge Aliens by using modern time reference
by KilliK
instead of using the time period when the movie was released. All these overused stereotypes that you are talking about were ground-breaking material which Aliens brought in the table during the time of its release. Characters like Hicks,Hudson and Sarge have been copied and recycled numerous times from a lot of other movies throughout the years. That's why i find your claim that Aliens has not aged well,at least ignorant.
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that's a jockey head in there...
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Look in the right hand column. The four top Talkbacks are all PROMETHEUS. Fact!
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Note to creepythinman: I use the term fact when it actually is a fact. Not an opinion. You creepythinfoo'.
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There seems to be a concensus building that it's Scott's answer to Fermi's paradox then?
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For those you old enough to remember the experience in the theatre when you watched Alien in 1979, had there been anything quite like it before? Anything? No. It was revolutionary. For those of us watching the trailer in 2012, have we seen anything like it before? Well, yes, actually. Not saying that it wont be fun, but the expectations being placed on this seem impossibly high.
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The best quote I've read thus far lol.
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Alien is socially more interesting. I think the new one will lead to more interest in intelligent sci fi films. Hope Total Recall is going to be more cerebral this time round, and Robocop could be more intelligent along the way too.
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Man, do I laugh hardily when I hear hipsters telling someone like Sir Ridley Scott, and I quote; "Meh, looks so, so. I could poo a better movie.". Go get another tattoo and then get back to work on that epic dubstep video, where you and your friends dance around in the basement like a bunch of idiots. Now THAT is important for cinema, for humanity!
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March 18, 2012, 4:11 p.m. CST
It's pointless trying to over-rationalize why Prometheus looks more slick than Alien.
by hank henshaw
Truth is Alien was made with the aesthetics of the 70's, and Prometheus was made in 2012. Period. It doesn't matter if chronologically Prometheus is set in the past of Alien. It's more of less the same thing that happened with Star Wars and the prequels. Any "explanation" they give is bullshit.
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Explains the human-like skull and other human attributes. Looks like they find a genetic altering life-form that will eventually be aliens and probably some other shit. It takes attributes from it's hosts and humans are among the first hosts. That's what that human hands guy in the trailer with alien legs and no tail is saying to my hypothetical generator. It operates like an opposite version of earth's bacterial phage which implants it's genetics in it's host and then literally turns it's host into itself. The fact that we have creatures on earth that do the exact same thing that the Thing does is fucking creepy. What if that shit was spliced into human or animal DNA? I just creeped myself out.
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March 18, 2012, 4:12 p.m. CST
Based on the trailer(s) alone for Promethius,can't wait for the Blade Runner prequel! And any other prequel that Ridley wants to do!
by Cedric Ford
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March 18, 2012, 4:13 p.m. CST
Love Outland. Same universe as blade runner and alien pretty much.
by UltraTron
Drug dealers from one of the off-world colonies.
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Thanks for saying that lol
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I'm sure that's on the fast track now as well. How bloody awesome would that be?
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I was a huge fan of the original Alien back in 1979 and know Ridley Scott will make another great film! Just seeing the trailer makes me all goo, goo, eyed about it ( hear me asi I'm gushing again and I haven't even seen the film yet LOL! ).
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March 18, 2012, 4:17 p.m. CST
Haven't had time to read the TB yet. Needed to first post about
by Col. Tigh-Fighter
HOW FUCKING GOOD WAS THAT?!?!?!?! *head explodes BOOM* So damn good! I haven't looked forward to another film as much as possibly the last LOTR's. And now we have an idea where the story is going. Amazing!
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March 18, 2012, 4:18 p.m. CST
Hight expectations? Yes. A chance of meeting them? You betcha
by performingmonkey
Unlike 90% of hyped-to-fuck movies, Ridley Scott and Damon Lindelof could very well have delivered something of great worth here. The trailers seem to show some of those 'uncomfortable' moments that made much of Alien and Blade Runner edge-of-your seat (or squirming in it...) stuff! These are moments of REAL horror, characters close-up in a room with minimal CGI or ridiculous gore. Noomi Rapace and Fassbender look like they're giving amazing performances, and that's just from these glimpses. That's gonna make all the difference.
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In one of the frames in the trailer you can see it open it's mouth...?
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That Prometheus "fan fic" created months before the trailer details everything shown in the trailer. Did they time travel in Nov to now to travel back to then to write that fan fic?
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March 18, 2012, 4:21 p.m. CST
Outland was great and clearly a re-make of "High Noon" set in space
by Zardoz
But I don't expect that many young "geeks" on here have actually watched a 60 year old B&W western... ;P
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" Outland was an example of a good scifi film ". LOL! Except for the fact that people don't blow up like that in a vacuum! Which the film liked to capitalize on several times. And " yes " we knew that already back then. You continue to not get what SF is all about. But thanks for showing your ignorance. http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/ask_astro/answers/970603.html
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...I was afraid I was derailing the thread, but I'd really wanted to respond to lisab the other day and couldn't, so I seized the chance. Fortunately, I wasn't the only one, so I feel better about it now. (And your comment certainly helped with that, too.) Thanks again.
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This is what sci-fi can be on the big screen. We're lucky to have a Ridley Scott. He's up there with Kubrick and not many more in the movie world as a visualizer of the future and of outer space. And just realize how lucky we are to have this coming out in a world of Michael Bays. Makes me actually smile.
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March 18, 2012, 4:27 p.m. CST
Yeah this is the most excited I can possibly get for a movie.
by UltraTron
Just the master returning aspect. All the incredible design work I'm seeing. The secrecy just like with the original Alien. They didn't let anyone into pinewood studios. They didn't let anything leak. You saw an egg in the trailer that was an abstract design that had nothing to do with the images in the film. Just thinking about how masterful Alien is gives me chills. It's in my DNA. I wonder if we are in the alien's DNA. This will be a grueling wait. I hope we are not let down. Tempering as best I can but that is single greatest trailer I've ever seen in my life.
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Why is Spaihts not being interviewed? Seems like everyone acts like he did nothing but he is the co-writer of the script. Just curious - anybody know?
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I actually watched the international trailer FIRST, then commented. Then I just watched the US one and it definitely gives it more of an "oh, SHIT" feeling. More horror and action overtones. It kicked my ass and freaked me out much more than the international one. Wonder why the difference in tone? guess that's because I am an American :) and we do love our guns and 'splosions. Regardless, the film looks to be beyond awesome.
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March 18, 2012, 4:37 p.m. CST
I am not skeptical about this movie at all. Factual.
by NotEnoughBiehn
You see, I have a 98% lifetime success rate in judging quality product ahead of time, and my intuition calculator has determined that there is only a 1 in 2,335,541,900 chance of failure for this film. Sorry haters and skeptics, you lose. Fact
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Are you being sarcastic? I was serious, I watched Alien last nite with a friend after I told him. If your serious I completely get it, I work at a theatre and a coworker had put up the Prometheus stand up and he didn't know either till I told him.
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The reason they keep showing viral videos of the robots is because they are fore-shadowing that the android becomes the bio-mechanical Alien. Hence the metal teeth. The polarized silicon outer shell. The artificial humans are able to combine with the alien DNA somehow. Is that Fassbender transforming into the alien? Is that him at the end with alien legs and still human looking hands? I don't care if I figured it out or not. I don't think anything could spoil this.
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Aliens is a great 80's flick I'd agree. I rewatch it like every 5 years. But it gets predictable and boring. Plus why a kid like Newt. Then Cameron tries to prove a kid works again in T2. Cameron isn't on the same level as Ridley on drama and suspense, though he can do great cliches and buddy and chase movies. Alien is timeless. As for Ridley relying on more advanced CGI effects for Prometheus. Unfortunately Ridley is older and may not have the energy to watch every little detail as he once did. He's not at the age Peter Jackson is or when he did Alien. So he probably has a lot of help and other artists. Like for example, the Prometheus, a cool design and better than anything in the SW prequel and Lucas' choice of dopey childish designs. But Prometheus is way too advanced with rotating thruster sections like a Transformer. Which doesn't makes sense since the "garage" door and vehicles still look like today's tractor and mobile craft. Though I like the cool big angle window views of the bridge like they showed in the original Alien as they approached the planet from orbit.
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Am I crazy or is Shaw covered in blood in UK trailer (stumbling along corridor) vs black goo in the US trailer? Different rating versions revealed - one with more blood and one using the old "black blood" get out clause? Also, that's got to be Shaw having a mutant baby removed from her in the tube doesn't it? The Imax trailer clears shows her face, it's obvious she sleeps with the infected crewmember from the earlier trailer and the thing is clearly neither a facehugger or chestburster as we know them, but it does seem to have a cord linking itself to her... A lot of plot beats seem to be locked in now, from ramming the alien ship to the Space Jockey being a more humanoid creature inside a suit to infected crewmembers mutating... I hope they've left enough surprises for the actual film to reveal.
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Not only was Alien the best Cinerama movie of 1979, just the poster alone was enough to cause nightmares. At the same theater, six weeks before, there was an enigmatic poster with a blurb (the 'in space, no one can hear you scream') but it had a paragraph explaining what the movie was about, that is clearly parallel with the blurb for Prometheus. Ridley is a very thorough-going artist.
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March 18, 2012, 4:57 p.m. CST
I think I figured the ending from the trailer(s).. spoiler!
by Jerry Piper
One of the crew (Fassbender) BECOMES the space jockey. You can see at 2:12 in the US trailer the space jockey morphing, I assume from the crew member, into the jockey. Also, you can see other quick glimpses of something slithering into what looks like the space jockey suit. Also, in other moments you see the space jockey "chair" rising up from the floor. Why? Because the space jockey is the PILOT to take the alien spaceship to Earth, and thus contaminate mankind. The earth crew's ship collides with it to keep it from making the journey.
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March 18, 2012, 5:04 p.m. CST
"From the director of Blade Runner and Gladiator"...?
by MaxCalifornia.
But, you know, no other film in his oeuvre that we'd want to associate with this movie...why are they being so cagey about the Alien association?
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he is not famous enough.
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No way is that NOT an alien, or at least a proto-alien. Look at the legs, which bear and amazing resemblance to the alien legs you see in behind the scenes photos of the original. Second, look at the size of it! It looks like a female crew member (Noomi) on the floor to the left, but the character to the right would be at least 8 feet tall by comparison. Its calf is as big as her thigh! If it is just another crew member, why just show from the waist down. That is an alien.
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would explain hive mind. I think we will not see everything in this film.. If Ridley wants Alien to retain an oh f**k moment then the egg and the chestburster probably need to NOT be in the film. At least the chest burster. If you consider Prometheus, Alien and Aliens a trilogy then the queen in aliens is one of the oh f**k moments. When the mystery of what lays all the freaking eggs is solved. The chestburster is the oh f**k moment in Alien. When a mystery is solved.. but what is the mystery... possibly what the hell happened to the original eggs - i.e. the capsules we see in the prometheus trailer.
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March 18, 2012, 5:09 p.m. CST
LOL I enjoyed @totalreality's take on Prometheus that it
by Brian Hopper
appears to be Contact (act 1) glued on to Mission to Mars (act 2) glued on to Sunshine (act 3). It's like a human centipede comprised of three other movies, or something!
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If Noomi(Shaw) and her bf make out after one or the other or both having been infected just seems real stupid or they were out of control. They're supposed to be quarantined and I hope Ridley didn't let the story devolve to a B-movie sci-fi schlock where the principals make out during a crisis like in Supernova or Sunlight.
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March 18, 2012, 5:11 p.m. CST
Seriously, when was the last time talkback had such a great discussion? Bodes very well for the movie.
by Jerry Piper
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Oh c'mon. Aliens still holds up as one of the best action movies of all time. It's iconic. As for Cameron he's probably one of the best technical innovators of film in the past 20 years. He was the first to use CGI in the Abyss and Titanic was technically brilliant, and pushed CGI and 3D to it's limits with Avatar. There's a reason why when he makes a movie Scott, Spielberg, Lucas, etc...Stopped by (on the Avatar set) to see what the hell he was doing , and all followed his footsteps with their next films.
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I know this is heresy, but I actually prefer it to High Noon. The tension and conflict between Sean Connery and Peter Boyle has a lot of impact. Boyle is great in that movie. Not everything has to be a masterpiece. Hyams did a nice job with Outland. Great production design, really solid cast, tight story, good fx and a really good sound design. It's an underrated movie.
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March 18, 2012, 5:17 p.m. CST
Holy Shit!!! What is up with all the Positiveness in this talkbacki......It feels uncomfortable......I feel dizzy......Need some hate.....can not compute
by smokie
I kind of like the international one better i think....IDK.....but I love every single thing I have seen thus far
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March 18, 2012, 5:18 p.m. CST
Wow, I actually prefer the international trailer with its emphasis
by Brian Hopper
on the exploration angle and philosophical subtext. But any way you cut it, this is shaping up to be quite a movie.
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Everything he touches turns to cinematic gold. How many of us can say our childhoods were shaped by White Squall? Probably most. And American Gangster blew me away so much I burned my copies of the godfather, goodfellas and scarface. When Denzel and Russell high five in front of the chalk board at the end and you realize Denzel is actually a good guy and kinda like a superhero actually, so awesome. And Black Hawk Down!? Good lord, the subtext and psychological underpinnings were so subtle and refined, I almost didn't catch them the first 400 times I watched that movie. (As we all have.) The part right at the end when the little black kids run smiling with the troops, made me realize it wasn't all black people that were bad, it was just the ones they were shooting. Brilliant! Thought provoking! Thoughtoking! A Good Year? Damn right it was when that gem came out. Hannibal? Talk about exceeding the original and deepening the themes ala The Dark Knight, Godfather 2, Empire and Weekend at Bernie's 2. Matchstick Men... AKA... The movie where we learned to love Nic Cage again. Gladiator won best picture Oscar, so the laws of physics don't even allow my mind to conceive of it being boring and anticlimactic and cheesy. And finally if his last outing (Robin Hood) is any indication of how his skills are at the top of their game... I don't think we have anything to worry about. Ranty McTroll.
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March 18, 2012, 5:20 p.m. CST
@ m6y......High Noon is a classic....most people dont remember Outland....in fact I cant recall very much of it now that I come to think of it
by smokie
there......some negativity......ahhhhhh, I feel better now
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I'm on board with Fassbender as becoming the space jockey. The reason why could be that as a superior life form to humans he is drawn to the genetic beauty of an even more "superior" life form and decides to essentially merge with it. If he bio mechanical then they can use his innards to self-replicate and advance each other. Fassbender's perverse smirk in the US trailer tips the balance in favor of him going rogue. Fukung robot!!
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Since Ridley is such a great visualist I'm so happy he is finally making another sic fi film. I was never that impressed by any of his other films and kept hoping he would return to this genre. Glad he has. Not that all his other movies blew hard, but they were not classics so to speak like Alien and Blade Runner.
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March 18, 2012, 5:29 p.m. CST
WILL JOE SIXPACK BE INTERESTED THOUGH? THAT HAS ME WORRIED.
by Ingvar Claesson
Is the average moviegoer of a low IQ even remotely interested in this, a cerebral sci-fi film with possibly a slower pace than Transformers? And no superheroes that zip around the sky, dodging missiles and flying demons?
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March 18, 2012, 5:31 p.m. CST
Ridley said there might be a sequel to Prometheus at WonderCon yesterday.
by Jerry Piper
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March 18, 2012, 5:31 p.m. CST
Yeah, I know High Noon is a classic. I'm a huge western buff.
by Brian Hopper
But I've never been as enamored of High Noon as other cinephiles. It's a really fine film, don't get me wrong. And it's got Grace Kelly... probably the hottest chick who ever lived. But a long list of other westerns including from My Darling Clementine to The Wild Bunch are superior, I think. So I'm cool with the fact that the pitch for Outland was 'High Noon in space.' It works. By the way, count me amazed that the Hollywood's hack machine hasn't yet remade Outland... it's such an obvious choice for a remake.
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March 18, 2012, 5:31 p.m. CST
RE: High Noon.....I still wish that High Noon had a Lesbo seen between Grace Kelly and the Spanish chick
by smokie
now that would be drawing from the hip
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March 18, 2012, 5:34 p.m. CST
unparanoidandroid, "Prometheus, are you seeing this" is just another way to refer to whoever is watching her feed back on the ship
by iamnicksaicnsn
Kind of like when anyone in the Star Trek universe says "Enterprise, do you read me? Enterprise, two to beam up" or whathaveyou.
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March 18, 2012, 5:36 p.m. CST
Does anyone know if ANY of the music in any of these trailers
by Brian Hopper
is new music for Prometheus? Or if not, where the temp music is from? I like the music at the beginning of the mini-trailer, and some of the music in the international trailer.
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March 18, 2012, 5:38 p.m. CST
Trailer so rad that forbes.com and perezhilton have articles on it.
by Jerry Piper
Almost going viral!
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March 18, 2012, 5:39 p.m. CST
Rhizome man, Gladiator won best picture. That is a badass flick.
by Cureguy
I too am glad he finally returned to scifi. He looks great and in good health too. Hope he can make it to at least to a productive 95. Maybe he can do a sequel to Legend too while he is at it. Why not?
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March 18, 2012, 5:45 p.m. CST
I am willing to bet when the image at 2:15 comes out in theaters, there will be an extra thumb and tail in it, and that it was digitally removed from the trailer. Just my opinion!
by Jerry Piper
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March 18, 2012, 5:46 p.m. CST
There is what looks like a cuttlefish in the med pod where Noomi is struggling. It has tentacle and is caught in metal calipers near her head.
by Cureguy
Maybe the black blood is actual squid ink, and the aliens are related to octopi here on Earth somehow.
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Give it time. The only thing more predictable than the emergence of backlash on AICN boards is the sun rising or Beaks queueing up for an IRREVERSIBLE re-release.
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March 18, 2012, 5:53 p.m. CST
@m6y the music has been made specifically for the trailers and it is a
by KilliK
a combination/remix of these two musics: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHJK6SezRpY&feature=player_embedded http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjLamj-b0I8&feature=player_embedded
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I'm wondering if the film is intended as a sort of epic horror.
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If it ends up being a dude in a suit, which it really really really looks like, that's fucking lame. I'm not saying it'll ruin the movie but come the fuck on - it was BONES.
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but come to find out it was a signal that we are now technically advanced and fully populated enough to be "harvested" lol. It seems that way from all that the trailer is giving away...hopefully we get some big twists...
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Gladiator was a good movie - my favorite Scott flick after Alien and Blade Runner.
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I hope this is good, because Alien and Gladiator sucked. The only good thing about Aliens is the end scene with Ripley going head to head with mama alien. Blade Runner was cool though.
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Pretty sure that's him as a creature jumping off the van onto another crew member.
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March 18, 2012, 6:37 p.m. CST
I think I've figured the whole "different universe" thing out.
by I Hope You Die
This looks very much like an Alien prequel so maybe Scott is just saying they've retconned Alien. The dates don't match up or whatever. He's saying: Don't expect Alien to completely make sense as a sequel to this movie.
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Genreman writes: "The REAL Ridley Scott said in the AMC chat that he does not consider Alien 3 - AvP: Requiem to be canon...nor do I." Where did he say this? I watched the Q&A. As far as I know Sir Ridly has never gave his opinions of Aliens or the other sequels. He only ever said "no comment/you know how I feel about it" in regards to AVP. I've always wondered what his thoughts on Aliens were and if he considers it canon or at least worthy. If you have links post them. Otherwise you are full of shit.
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Genreman writes: "The REAL Ridley Scott said in the AMC chat that he does not consider Alien 3 - AvP: Requiem to be canon...nor do I." Where did he say this? I watched the Q&A. As far as I know Sir Ridley has never given his opinions of Aliens or the other sequels. He only ever said "no comment/you know how I feel about it" in regards to AVP. I've always wondered what his thoughts on Aliens were and if he considers it canon or at least worthy. If you have links post them. Otherwise you are full of shit.
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Sir Ridley Scott. Kicking our collective fucking asses for decades. The true modern equivalent of David Lean. I have never.... NEVER been this excited for a film before.
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I watched both trailers, and I absolutely loved how everything felt right in line with Alien and Aliens in terms of technology being used, from the lander ship, to the vehicles deployed, the sleeper tubes, etc. Indeed, watching the trailers, I was reminded of my teen years when "Aliens" came out in the theater. I have much the same feeling now as I did then. Since this is Sir Ridley Scott, I feel more confident that the movie WON'T suck like Alien 3 forward did.
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...Alien sucked? You're a fucking retard.
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Nice bit of trolling, fucktard. Now go wander back out into traffic and get hit by a bus.
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March 18, 2012, 7:42 p.m. CST
Ship takes off in US trailer/crashes in INT trailer.
by tHeGRinGoGenTiLE
Total spoilage.
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March 18, 2012, 7:46 p.m. CST
Midbulk transport. Standard radion accelerator core class-code 03-K64.
by fanboy71
Firefly.
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I loved it. I hope there is an extended cut on the way via Blu-ray. The pacing was kinda off but overall I really enjoyed it. Felt like a kid again, how many films do that?
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March 18, 2012, 9:51 p.m. CST
If there is a church for worshipping this film, sign me the fuck up!
by Jaster Mareel
It just doesn't get any better people. i mean....HOLY FUCK! To hell with eye rape, this movie is like SOUL RAPE!
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THe U.S. trailer is much better than the international one! I dont know why, it just looks more action packed.
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The marketing team did their job well, because in Europe, Alien 3 was a success. In US, it was criticized for now having enough action.
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the US trailer is creepy, unnerving, cynical... I watch the Int. trailer and think straight forward action oriented Sci-fi. The US trailer makes me think of desperate people facing death, and dark nightmarish events. I know they both use the same basic scenes...maybe it is the music, or the way they are cut?
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I'm a little disappointed by how close the premise mirrors 2001's 'superior life form leaves clues for civilization to find and decipher once they're sophisticated enough'
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March 18, 2012, 11:53 p.m. CST
Wow. It's gonna be a great summer for going out to the movies.
by ToughGuyRizzo
Can't wait. This looks great.
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March 19, 2012, 12:02 a.m. CST
I'm not going to watch anything more until I see the movie --
by MooseMalloy
-- feel like I've seen too much already.
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Certain parallels are there, but one could say that Clarke only expanded on Lovecraft's ideas. As others have mentioned this movie will be the antithesis of 2001 and, thankfully, AVATAR.
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has an environment that still keeps me on edge. No matter how many times I see this movie and know what's coming and when, just as with Alien and Aliens, I still get the creeps and I love it.
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This is the first film in a long while for which I am excited to see and have high expectations. Anyone else here old enough to remember the pre-production artwork by Ron Cobb and others that showed up in the various art books of the time? I see a lot of those designs used in this trailer, beyond the Giger designs. I am also thinking this may the greatest summer for science fiction movies since '82.
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What the heck was that thing that slithered up that dude's arm? It looked like it was the slimy pink tail of something, crawling and squirming up into the dude's sleeve. At first I thought it could be a chestburster, but why would it slither up inside someone? That makes no sense. Perhaps it is that weird thing that Fassbender pulls out of the capsule? Also, is Noomi's character wrapped up around the chest, as in she had a chestburster or something removed, which seems to be implied in the other trailer? WTF? The more I see the less sense it makes, which is good. They've been really clever at not spilling the beans too much, save for the humanoid space jockey. Other than that though, lots of mystery. Of course, that doesn't guarantee it all won't have a silly or dumb explanation in the film, but it looks so good so far I can't imagine it will be shit. At worst, I suppose it could be something less mind blowing than we all want, but I doubt it will be crap like Aliens vs. Predator. The only thing I am wondering now though, is that the dude from the beginning that is Noomi's boyfriend/husband in this film seems to be getting infected with something. Then he looks at his bloodshot eye in the international trailer. I am wondering if he ends up morphing into the space jockey. That seems like it might be the thing they'd go with, the irony of Noomi and her lover finding all the alien ruins on Earth, and that being the catalyst to the Prometheus mission... but then the two ambitious intellectuals end up being the ones that unleash some alien monstrosity. Or perhaps as some have suggested, Fassbender's android character David unleashes or creates the xenomorphs. Ah, fuck it. Who knows at this point. Trying to piece the plot together from a trailer is like a grope in the dark at best, and not really worth all the effort. It is fun to speculate but at this point I am more curious than sure of where everything is going with this movie. I'd rather have no more new trailers giving away too much before the film premieres. This will definitely be a perfect film for a midnight opening. No way in hell am I seeing this during the daytime.
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Not as high on the pedestal of greatness as Alien and Aliens, but still a worthy space flick. It does feel like it could be taking place in the Alienverse, or in the Offworld Colonies of Blade Runner.
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I think the chest wrapping is what females wear during hypersleep. Also think that's Fassbender standing with his hand on her capsule.
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March 19, 2012, 1:24 a.m. CST
One thing I haven't noticed from these two new Prometheus trailers
by lv_426
Nothing showing that weird mutated/old dude in the wheel chair that everyone was speculating as being Sir Peter Weyland. It is a bit strange that we haven't seen Guy Pierce at all in the trailers, only in that TED talk video. Then in that Weyland Corp. timeline, there is no mention of his death. So he could still be alive... Then there is this from the Alien series blog Strange Shapes: *Weyland's death is not listed in the timeline - a curious and glaring omission. Some speculate that Weyland has entered a hypersleep of sorts, and may appear in Prometheus. At the AMC Q&A event, Ridley confirmed that Weyland will appear in a secret capacity, and will be very old by the time the film takes place.* --------------------------------- That could still mean that Weyland is a possible candidate to become the space jockey. Maybe he decides that he is a god after all and that humanity needs to be subjugated under his rule? Or perhaps he is just getting old and wants to attain immortality by becoming a biomechanical space god? Whether he does this or not, either way we can speculate that something went sour on the Prometheus expedition, and this would explain why Weyland's date of death is not mentioned in the timeline. The company doesn't want to admit to the public that their founder died out in the fringes of space on some desolate world. Or maybe Sir Peter is still in Hypersleep and will wake up about a couple hundred years from now and party with Ripley 8, Call, and Ron Perlman on that -shithole Earth-?
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You may be right. It is just that the cloth/bra Noomi was wearing in a couple shots looked a bit like a bandage. The trailer is cut pretty quick so it is hard to see everything in the proper context. Fassbender standing over Noomi's capsule. Is that in the part where it appears that the hypersleep capsules are being opened, and the sleepers woken? I remember in the Aliens treatment, Cameron had something about how the ship's synthetic would keep an eye on things during the part of the voyage when the crew was in hypersleep. Bishop would wander around the silent ship or something along those lines, checking things out and making sure things were in order. I always liked that notion, cause it does make sense that the android wouldn't need to go into hypersleep. So perhaps the android is the one that wakes everyone up on the Prometheus?
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This is gonna be a HUGE box office win, even if rated R.
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I didn't know that Fassbender and Sir Ridley did a Q&A. I do really like this idea of a lone android walking around a starship while everyone is in cryo. It would make a good premise for an Aliens video game or sequel. The android would have to fight the xenomorphs and keep them from getting to the hypersleep chamber so that the crew doesn't become infected and more aliens start running amok all over the ship. Also, we've never had one of the androids as the hero of an Alien film before. That could be fun to see sometime. Maybe a post Aliens/Alien³ sequel directed by Jim Cameron?
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March 19, 2012, 2:03 a.m. CST
iwantmorelifefather, perhaps they'll start with the PG-13 version
by lv_426
which will rake in a ton of money, then they'll re-release the film in late July or August in the R-rated form. It isn't out of the question. Remember when 28 Days Later re-released with an alternate ending? Also, Avatar re-released with some additional footage. If Prometheus is PG-13 but also a big hit, then I wouldn't be surprised to see 20th Century Fox put out an R version.
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But as long as they did an R-rated director's cut re-release a month or two later, I'd be okay with that. I think it is unlikely that Fox will let Ridley make an R version as the initial release cut. I'll be shocked if they do.
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March 19, 2012, 2:11 a.m. CST
I wonder if audiences are tired of all the bright colored superhero/Transformer stuff?
by lv_426
I kind of think that Marvel blew their wad with having both Captain America and Thor last summer. Then we also had Green Lantern from DC, and then the X-men prequel which is technically another Marvel property. I am thinking that The Avengers could end up being a bit of a dud financially. It will still make a lot and be a success, but maybe not as much as Marvel hopes it will. If you would have asked me a month ago which film I would have thought was going to win in the box office, Prometheus versus John Carter, I'd have thought John Carter. Now though, it seems that maybe a darker film like Prometheus might have more legs than it seemed to. Could Prometheus and The Dark Knight Rises end up causing The Avengers to loose quite a bit of steam? I don't know. Now, I doubt Prometheus will end up making a billion, but maybe it could do Inception money, which let's say about 700-800 million worldwide B.O.
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March 19, 2012, 3:15 a.m. CST
lv_426 : RE: *I am thinking that The Avengers could end up being a bit of a dud financially.*
by Kai_Mah'gra
More like, you're wishing Avengers ends up being a dud financially. And your logic is because there were a lot of Superhero movies last summer and you think audiences are tired of the genre? Are you freakin' serious with that? That was last summer. What does that have to do with this summer? And since when was 'too many Superhero movies' a bad thing, that audiences could get tired of? Avengers is going to make money. A lot of it. I'm even willing to bet it will make more than both Prometheus and Dark Knight. For one thing it has more recognizable stars and big-names which are always a big draw. Secondly it's an established property. See Transformers sequels.Eash sequel made more money than the movie before it despite the decline in quality in each. Ironically Transformers is one of themovies you were giving as an example of why you think audiences might be gettting tired of Superhero/bright colored movies. It's also the same franchise that completely demolishes your argument. Thirdly, Avengers is more family friendly. This goes without sayin and you don't need me to explain to you why this is improtant to a films financial success or why it led to Prometheus ending up as a PG-13 instead of a R movie. Audiences are tired? Are you freakin' kidding me? Seriously. Dude.
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March 19, 2012, 3:23 a.m. CST
=I'm even willing to bet it will make more than both Prometheus and Dark Knight.=
by KilliK
both? wont happen. more than Prometheus? maybe. but not more than TKDR.
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You seriously beleive that TDKR will do The Dark Knight numbers at the Box Office again? Unless one of their main cast members (in this case it would have to be Tom Hardy by default) pulls off a Heath Ledger and dies before the movie opens and it ends up riding that sympathy card, TDKR is not going to make anywhere nearly as much as TDK did. There's no reason to think that Avengers can't do better numbers than both of those movies later in the summer.
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March 19, 2012, 3:48 a.m. CST
no i dont think TDKR will do TDK numbers but that doesnt mean
by KilliK
that Avengers will gross more than TDKR.Maybe both movies will have the same BO success. Avengers despite its well known cast of characters,it is actually a new super-hero entry and we dont know if it will manage to attract all the moviegoers of the previous marvel movies. TDKR on the other hand is the final act of a very popular trilogy. it doesnt have Joker but it does have Batman and Nolan.and the fanbase of those two is huge. well at least that's my opinion.
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March 19, 2012, 4:21 a.m. CST
I think the avengers will make more money than TDKR and Prometheus, it's obviously geared toward the transformers crowd. But Prometheus and TDKR will be far better movies. But The Hobbit will blow the Avengers away....
by cameron
...Watching the trailers for the avengers it's easy to see marvel has decided to go after the transformers big 'splosions simple plot crowd, and it'll work. I can see avengers making the most money at the box office out of all the summer movies, but does that mean it's the best movie of the summer? No Transformers dotm was a monster success financially but ridiculed for its epic dumbness.. But obviously there are a great many peole that just like looking at shiney SFX and things blowing up rather than engaging their brain. Prometheus and TDKR will be far superior movies, hell i'm looking forward to a new take on Spider Man more than the avengers movie! I wouldn't be surprised if TDKR beats the avengers as i'm sure we haven't seen anything yet as Nolan is laying low till the avengers is released, but Nolans too clever to just do a sequel for the sake of it...i think we'll be in for a surprise of two - but as things stand at the moment i say that the avengers will be a big success despite it's inferior content when stood next to Prometheus and TDKR, however....... All will have to bow down to Bilbo Baggins at the end of the year. The Hobbit WILL be 'the' movie of the year and the movie that steals Avatars crown - it's gonna be huge, stark may have a hulk but Bilbo has a wizard and Gandalf's gonna fuck 'em up!
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March 19, 2012, 4:29 a.m. CST
>>>>'and we dont know if it will manage to attract all the moviegoers of the previous marvel movies.'
by Kai_Mah'gra
Yeah, kinda like we don't know that TDKR will replicate TDK's success, or that Nolan's notoriety or the Batman fanbase will guarantee that it does just as good BO numbers as Avengers likely will do. You know, inthe same way that Inception was helped to achieve TDK-like numbers by Nolan's name-recognition and fanboys.....er..... I mean fanbase. Oh wait, that didn't happen. Avengers is not really 'a new super-hero entry'. All the major characters - including the main villain - have all been introduced and established already in previous stand-alone movies....not to mention the comicbook canon. The story itself is a sort of coninuation of strings of storylines already established in the previous movies, so if anything Avengers reads more like a sequel to 3 or 4 seperate movies than it reads like a stand-alone movie. TDKR's success was largely predicated on Heath Ledger's death which increased the hype surrounding the movie consirably, more than it had to do with Nolan's superior film-making skills, the higher level of story-telling or the popularity of the main character who isn't even really a 'super-hero' (more like a comic book hero with a lot of money, but I digress). IF you want to get a clearer pitcure of TDKR's performance think Batman Begins performance slightly enchance by higher IMAX/3D ticket prices. It's late summer opening date when most audiences are alreadu fatigued with most of the summer blockbusters is not really going to help it's numbers or matters that much neither. At least compared to Avengers which has an early summer date with almost an entire month certainly in 3D theaters to itself before it faces any serious competition.
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Inception was a huge success and yes Nolan's name recognition had to do with it a lot. And who is saying that TDKR or every movie that Nolan makes,should make TDK money? It's you that you keep insisting that Avengers will make TDK money,something that i disagree with. Look none of the marvel movies (iron man,hulk,cap,thor) managed to achieve TDK numbers.All of them are in the range of 300 to 600m at best.TDK grossed 1 billion dollars.Do you honestly believe that Avengers will reach the same number? I am telling you that Avengers will gross around 800m dollars and that is a optimistic estimation.Avengers 2 might surpass the $1b barrier but that has to wait for now.
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DREAM ON PAL.
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Don't talk about all that comic book shit in the Sir Ridley Scott Prometheus talkback.
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Based on historic peformances of Ironman, etc. vs Batman I cannot see how Avengers - particularly as all the marketing makes it look a look more like Thor level film - will outdo a film like TDKR. I have no real preference either way - but a simple look at franchise history surely says Avengers is very unlikely to achieve this? Back to Prometheus, the trailers definately contain different footage of same events, so I reckon we're getting a PG-13 initial release, probably a later R release and PG-13 and R Blu-Ray's. The key clue is Shaw hobbling along the corridor. In the US trailer she is covered in some black gunk and you can clearly see (in 1080p version) what looks like black tape covering her lower abdomen where something looks to have been removed. This looks like PG-13 level action. In the UK trailer she is quite clearly covered in smears of blood and now the upper portion of her towel panties is soaked in blood rather than showing black tape - surely content more in line with an R. Or maybe UK is getting a 15 film (which would easily allow for US R level stuff) and US is getting PG-13 first? If so sorry guys. But anyway, that shot seems to confirm that Ridley has shot multiple versions of some scenes, some using blood and some using black goo. I can't think of any other reason for two versions of the scene to exist as the trailers seem to confirm. Unless it's down to some funny colour correction but the UK trailer it definately looks red and in the US black. Actually, comparing them the in similar scenes the UK trailer is definately darker in certain comparable scenes - I mean light level darker.
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When it doesn't meet your over-inflamed expectations. The internet is a virus.
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You obviously don't have a 10 year old son, who's watched the cartoon, has seen Iron Man, Thor and Captain America, and has marked May 4th on his calender as the day we go see Avengers. Like the other poster said, "you wish". That has blockbuster all over it. I had already forgotten that The Dark Knight Rises was out this summer. Haven't seen much as far as trailers go. Wasn't impressed very much with the last trailer they put out either.
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March 19, 2012, 7:48 a.m. CST
PG-13, or R. I'm there. Extended cut will make Blu-Ray eventually anyhoo.
by Bob
This looks soo good. UK trailer cut was way better too.
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...maybe. For anyone who hasnt seen it, it looks like that leaked synopsis is true. BEWARE.... http://geektyrant.com/news/2011/11/28/possible-prometheus-synopsis-arrives-spoiler.html
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March 19, 2012, 7:53 a.m. CST
It does seem to compare to the trailers quite nicely.
by Kill List Hammertime
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what we are saying is that it is not going to achieve TDK numbers,which translates into 1 billion dollars. I say it will reach 800m dollars AT MOST.
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I NEVER said that Avengers will do TDK numbers. DON'T put words in my mouth. What I did was was that Avengers would likely outgross both Prometheus and TDKR. I also said that TDKR will achieve nowhere near the same success as TDK. None of those two preciding sentences is the same thing as saying that Avengers will doTDK numbers (i.e gross $1 Billion at the Box office). Unless you don't know how to read or failed basic reading comprehension at school. Having said that, are you really that certain that Avengers will absolutely not cross the $1 Billion mark? Certain enough to put money on it? You're pulling that $800 Million number out of your ass as much as you're seemingly wishing that Avengers won't do as well as it likely will. You people hold Nolan and TDK is such sacrosant esteem that the mere suggestion that another comic book movie or any other movie in general might be nearly as successful or even more successful is something that you simply cannot countenance. It's just too bad that Cameron fellow had to come along and ruin it for you with his Avatar nonsense.
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That sounds like Theron's voice, and she is definitely an alpha female in the movie, right? And what kind of man would she be with? An alpha male -- like Peter Weyland, maybe. I'm thinking that Weyland is dying, and that he is looking for the secret to immortality. The TED talk confirms that he thinks of himself as God anyway. Thoughts?
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Correction.
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March 19, 2012, 8:28 a.m. CST
Soup back if you really wanna know read the synopsis.
by Kill List Hammertime
SPOILERS if its true, which it seems to be, she's referring to the space jockeys or engineers, as she wants their power/knowledge for herself.
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I have to really hold back here... I want to see this so bad but at the same time I don't want to know anything else. I think I can do it.
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From Empire Magazine April Issue: Summer Predictions TDKR: Opening Week-End: $150 Million US: $500 Million Worldwide: $1.1 Billion SPIDERMAN: Opening Week-End: $130 Million US: $350 Million Worldwide: $900 Million AVENGERS: Opening Week-End: $80 Million US: $240 Million Worldwide: $600 Million Opening Week-End: $150 Million US: $500 Million Worldwide: $1.1 Billion PROMETHEUS: Opening Week-End: $40 Million US: $180 Million Worldwide: $450 Million SNOW WHITE: Opening Week-End: $50 Million US: $175 Million Worldwide: $400 Million BATTLESHIP: Opening Week-End: $50 Million US: $170 Million Worldwide: $330 Million DARK SHADOWS: Opening Week-End: $60 Million US: $160 Million Worldwide: $310 Million I personally disagree with the Prometheus assumptions versus the Dark Shadow ones, and I think Avengers will do higher than predicted, otherwise they have done their maths.
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March 19, 2012, 8:54 a.m. CST
OOPS, remove the repeated TDKR figures between AVENGERS & PROMETHEUS
by Franck
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So yes it's a honeytrap to seek out and destroy new civilisations. So the jockeys must have lured the xenomorph into the same trap and got their asses handed to them
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the king will refer to the Jockeys, their reign being ended by the xenomorph
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March 19, 2012, 10:08 a.m. CST
The King refers to both Weyland and POSSIBLY The Engineers I think
by al
In fantastic planet though the idea is that to very basically summerise a main hub consciousness effectively lives on recycled in birth past a single rate of mortality, and I think Weyland wants some of what the Engineers have there, if theres any possibility it exists. If he's smart, he might even be so bold as to thinking he could get himself back to earth based on their protocols... stealing fire from the gods all the way himself...say it again... what if Weyland and tall lanky fella at the Jockey chair... are on and the same!? *gasp* It's him or David. Also, you guys should consder the source of the leaked synopsis might just know full well or have planned in advance that key points will match up with what footage has been released so far. And because spoilers.
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March 19, 2012, 10:36 a.m. CST
I see the Avatar dick licker....ooops, I mean killik is here again.
by rogueleader66
Still pimping on your favorite movie huh? Good for you. Even though Avatar's grosses were grossly inflated by 3D charges. But hey it made more money than anything ever so it must be the bestest movie ever! Silly me.
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March 19, 2012, 10:38 a.m. CST
TDKR will be huge, but it's not gonna do TDK business.
by rogueleader66
But 300 million plus? Yea most likely. Avengers is gonna do over 200 million easy, may even hit over 300 if it is as good as it looks to be.
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March 19, 2012, 10:38 a.m. CST
Seriously killik, just playin....don't get all pissy on me. just messin wit ya.
by rogueleader66
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...comicbookmovie has an interview with Fassbender and Theron where he says SPOILERS ...he's a good guy and she says she gets to be scary. Now I had my doubts about the leaked plot as well but after reading it, going through each trailer and hearing certain comments from key people I honestly think its at least 90% accurate. Fact.
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http://geektyrant.com/news/2011/11/28/possible-prometheus-synopsis-arrives-spoiler.html IS FAKE There is a real one around, in .txt format, which shows that Shaw get impregnated via the engineer's. Hence seeing her with a C-section scar on her belly and the scene where she is having the monster taken out of her belly. Also, Vickers aka Theron, is a AI, like David, but with anterior motives..
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I mean I don't know for sure, and I was wondering about that scene too. But everything else seems to match up. To be honest, I hope im wrong just so I can see the movie fresh. I'll be the first one to put my hand up and admit it if that's the case :)
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March 19, 2012, 11:46 a.m. CST
I hope Bryan Ferry is available to do a song for the end credits.
by Robert Evans
He can do a cover of How to Destroy Angels' cover of *Is Your Love Strong Enough?*
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All about building atmosphere, and giving an accurate indication of what the movie will be like without giving away the plot. Also, I love how they manage to get the panty shot in there.
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March 19, 2012, 1:03 p.m. CST
Hymans is a criminally derided director who has produced some good work.
by borisdoris
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I was thinking along the same lines just now. Was a genius move by Fincher, imo. Somehow fits the tone of the Prometheus trailer.
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Apparently the running time for Prometheus is 96 minutes.
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Prometheus can't be 96 mins. I hope my info is wrong.
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short and sweet. Like Salma Hayek. You don't complain she is so short, do you?
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i also have the same Jedi powers you have of forming a very good educated guess of how a movie will turn out in terms of quality. It's not completly infalible, which means i got some pleasant and unexpeted suprises like SHUTTER ISLAND and CAPTAIN AMERICA, movies i though would be weaker then they turned out to be. But overall, i do seem to hit more then not. Well, 26 years as a movie geek do pay off.
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Its her unibrow.. Its a red flag of a unkempt bush and hairy cleavage. ah, fuckit--who am i kidding? I'd hde my musket in her Alamo basement any day of the week and twice on Cinco de Mayo
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Christ, I hope my source is wrong. Shit.
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... trolling the studio into going for the longer, more-developed R.
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How is this not a prequel??
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March 19, 2012, 2:37 p.m. CST
The *prequel* kerfuffle is more semantics than anything.
by Robert Evans
The word *prequel* is now forever associated with the Star Wars films, and Ridley probably wants that kind of association far away from PROMETHEUS. Good luck with that.
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March 19, 2012, 2:38 p.m. CST
If James Cameron made ALIENS today, would the aliens be the victims of a malevolent human military-industrial corporation?
by AsimovLives
And would he call it ALIENZ? You know, to appeal to today's youth democraphics... yo!
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March 19, 2012, 2:47 p.m. CST
If James Cameron made ALIENS today, would the majority of the screentime dedicated to an interspecies romance?
by AsimovLives
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Or at least an image of the alien as we've come to know and love.
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First I have to correct some typical idiocy going on…the Star Wars prequels were advanced more than the originals because they had all the resources at the ready. There was no Empire in control. Think of it before Cuba pre- 1959 and post, a beautiful country before, nowadays, they drive cars 50 + years old, cobbled together from other junk heaps, (sound familiar) because they don’t have the resources at the ready thanks to the Empire’s strangling of resources. The originals were at the peak of the Empire’s power and their technology, or lackthereof, suffered because of it.
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Doubtful since he enjoyed the prequels.
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There is no evidence to support such nonsense. Box-office blockbusters are kinda coveted in that town...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq7Z3pqJ4dY&feature=player_embedded
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March 19, 2012, 3:27 p.m. CST
I just wonder if there's a negative connotation around the word *prequel.*
by Robert Evans
Sure, the SW prequels made a mint, and Ridley supposedly likes them, but *prequel* makes the entertainment media scoff and yawn. It's all bullshit anyway. It's clearly a prequel.
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give it to me. hard. hahahah
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Maybe a sculpture or mural created by a race that exalts the Alien, or depicts some kind of genesis. May be just a bit of world detail rather than developing into anything significant.
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he's the one that flies the ship into the soon-to-be derelict? that close-up shot of him screaming is him piloting the ship on the suicide mission?
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Obamic Power
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March 19, 2012, 4:14 p.m. CST
I think that the reason why Scott is hesitant to use the word "prequel"
by Roane Gaddy
is because he wants this to be seen as a film unto itself that can be appreciated without any prior knowledge of the earlier film(s). After watching the AMC Q & A, it just seems so obvious that he is clearly enjoying the fact that fans of the original film are so persistent in their effort to get him to openly acknowledge that the movie is in fact a prequel.
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on an unrelated note, check this out, you migh enjoy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM-ZcgrU4-c&feature=related
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March 19, 2012, 4:31 p.m. CST
How on god's green earth could this be rated anything but R?
by kevred
The cosmic terror alone should merit that rating. Violence, profanity, nudity or not, I don't think cosmic terror should be marketed to kids. Here's a clue to the studio: it's because of the original two R-rated films that, decades later, you can make this big-budget sequel. What part of R is bad for business, again?
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Cool song. Very catchy and well done. What do the words mean? You don't need to write all the lyrics, just the gist.
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March 19, 2012, 4:43 p.m. CST
What are you kids doing in here? Someone bring me up to speed..TB Synopsis is needed
by conspiracy
Just too much to go through ^
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The song is called "Chuva Dissolvente", which translated could be called "Corrosive Rain". It'd aboput the alienation that everyday mundane life can bring to one's life and how one ends up forgetting the importance of others, thoughthr others sufer from the same and thus render you unimportant as well. It was an important song in the late 80s, and pretty much caught the gist of the mood of the nation at the time. The group is called XUTOS & PONTAPÉS, and theebst way to describe them is to call them the portuguese Rolling Stones. but with the important distinction they never sold out, if you know what i mean. Allow me to link you to naother coo thing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-PgnBziPu8&feature=related
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he would have made the same masterpiece.even better.
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ALIENS is the work of a very hungry young man who wanted to prove his worth to the world. He's not the same man nowdays. Sorry for pushing this, but i want you to check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkQhaXi0ACw
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Ofc he is not.he is better.
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March 19, 2012, 5:57 p.m. CST
=ALIENS is the work of a very hungry young man who wanted to prove his worth to the world.=
by KilliK
The same goes for Ridley,dont you angry?
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i mean hungry, a desire to show his quality. as for Ridley Scott, he's strangely reinvigorated for a man his age. not complaining.
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WHO CARES.
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March 19, 2012, 6:10 p.m. CST
=as for Ridley Scott, he's strangely reinvigorated for a man his age. not complaining. =
by KilliK
But James Cameron who is about to become,after 50 years, the 2nd man who reaches the deepest part on Earth,isnt? okey dokey..
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March 19, 2012, 6:21 p.m. CST
I'm just glad we've got both of them back making sci-fi.
by Kill List Hammertime
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cameron is peculiar with the fish he eats. so he goes fishing in strange places. or course, the real reason, besides his huge love for the sea, is research for AVATAR 2.
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or in James Cameron, that he bothered to make another movie.
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March 19, 2012, 6:51 p.m. CST
Is that mother fucker ever going to do Battle Angel?
by NotEnoughBiehn
Trying to get news on that project is the reason I started visiting AICN at all.
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March 19, 2012, 7:18 p.m. CST
2:13 The suit opens like an Alien Hugger, although just a suit.
by Franck
Am I hallucinating?
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Rather fitting description
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I really hope that he makes that after Avatar II & III. In a way, it would sort of be a return to his earlier filmmaking content of Terminator, similar to how Ridley is going back to Alien in a way. Since after T2, Cameron has mostly moved away from the darker side of sci-fi that he did so well with when he made The Terminator and Aliens. Not that I am complaining, as I like his other films. It would be nice to see him play around in a dark dystopian world like that of Battle Angel Alita.
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<p>However, Guy is starting to show his age.<p> <p>I was watching LA Confidential the other night.<p> <p>Man, time is a killer.<p>
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And Prometheus will do way better than that prediction above.
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This looks incredible...Ridley seems to having fun again, Gladiator type fun. Terminator 2 is a terrible flick.
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Director Peter Hyams loved that movie so much, he used the same production designer and composer....
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March 20, 2012, 11:18 a.m. CST
=or course, the real reason, besides his huge love for the sea, is research for AVATAR 2. =
by KilliK
and that makes him so amazing,doesn't? You have a man at his early 60s,who is adventuring in the deepest place in the world while gathering material for his next mega-blockbuster masterpiece. I wish i was the 1/20 of what he is.
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Cameron said BA would even be PG13, because the cyborgs will have blue blood. But there are plenty of humans who get killed in graphic ways in that series. Classic hardcore manga violence.
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LINK?
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https://www.weylandindustries.com/#/information
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<p>https://www.weylandindustries.com/WeylandFinancialHighlights.jpg<p> <p>https://www.weylandindustries.com/WeylandInvestInYourFuture.jpg<p>
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<p>We're in!<p> <p>http://www.projectprometheus.com/eridu/<p> <p>Password: tell abu shahrain<p> <p>It's a huge picture of Prometheus.<p> <p>http://www.projectprometheus.com/245409/<p> <p>Password: DDM2DDM2DDM2AMAMAMBIGBIGBIGBMESMPP<p> <p> I'm having trouble getting this one to work. But I know it leads to another pic.<p>
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