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Brett Ratner Wants I WANT MY MTV!!
The Kidd here...
Popularized by Dire Straits in the 1985 classic "Money For Nothing," "I want my MTV" became the statement of an entire generation that grew up with a promising new cable network that brought music to television in a way that hadn't been attempted before, long before the crews of JERSEY SHORE and THE HILLS ruined its legacy.
Last October, Craig Marks and Rob Tannenbaum teamed up to release the book I Want My MTV: The Uncensored Story of the Music Video Revolution, which was an oral history of the beginning and rise of MTV as told by musical artists, VJs, directors and execs. Now Brett Ratner wants to adapt it into a feature film.
According to Variety, Ratner is in talks with Sony to transform the book into a film, serving as a producer for now but with the possibility for him to direct, Jody Lambert (WELCOME TO PEOPLE) being given the task of writing the script.
I don't expect Ratner to go this route, but wouldn't this make more sense as a documentary about that first decade of MTV, as opposed to trying to find anyone who could fill the shoes of Downtown Julie Brown or even Kurt Loder for that matter?
-Billy Donnelly
"The Infamous Billy The Kidd"
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You know, F' that! MTV always sucked. Even when they were playing Music Videos. Only thing that was ever good was when they played The Young Ones. FACT!!!
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That guy was the Peter Jennings of the X generation
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March 16, 2012, 3:02 p.m. CST
I thought MTV's generational statement was *Video Killed The Radio Star* by the Buggles?
by justmyluck
I lived through that, unfortunately!
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That would be more interesting and have better focus rather than seeing Zoe Saldana playing Julie Brown.
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I wouldn't trust this hack to do this project justice
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The Head, The Maxx, Aeon Fluxxx, Liquid Television, and of course BEAVIS and BUTTHEAD
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March 16, 2012, 3:04 p.m. CST
CAMERON CROWE SHOULD DO THIS. Not that cunt-biscuit Ratner.
by ChickenStu
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a BILLION music videos!
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March 16, 2012, 3:08 p.m. CST
If you take out the bigoted part of Ratner's rehearsal comment
by Samuel Fulmer
He ain't the only one that doesn't believe in rehearsal. David Cronenberg doesn't either. Ratner isn't worthy to sniff Cronenberg's fecal matter, but there you have it, he ain't the only one against rehearsing actors.
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March 16, 2012, 3:08 p.m. CST
Either Cameron Crowe or Jonathan Demme. Seriously - why is that cunt-hammer Ratner still working?
by ChickenStu
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It was MTV's own ad for years and Dire Straits just worked it into the song. The MTV ads consisted of well-known singers looking into the camera and saying- "I want my MTV."
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March 16, 2012, 3:09 p.m. CST
I preaty much hate every Cameron Crow film other than Almost Famous
by Samuel Fulmer
But yeah he would be perfect for this.
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B-Ball and nose candy don't mix.
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aside from that, who gives a shit? MTV has sucked for decades, and the Ratt has sucked since birth.
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You dog, I haven't seen that name in 20 years! Now I gotta go Google her. Oh my misspent yoot but thanks for the memory I hope Ratnick makes the movie, it will bomb, a doc makes much more sense
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nailed it. MTV ad campaign first, Dire Straits song second. It was when MTV was just starting up, and was not yet carried by most cable providers in most areas. The whole point of it was to convince people who saw MTV and liked it to call up their cable providers and tell them, "I want my MTV." It worked.
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Uh... wrong. They were making "I Want My MTV" promos long before the song came out. I remember seeing Cyndi Lauper, David Bowie, and Billy Idol, in them in '84.
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Actually Billy, "I want my MTV" was part of the initial ad campaign to get viewers to request their cable companies to carry MTV. This was a few years before the Dire Straits song.
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What are we gonna do with these kids today?
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I don't want to remember the past too many fond beautiful memories
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Crazy talk. Don't believe it.
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March 16, 2012, 3:35 p.m. CST
Fuck the Ratt. Crowe or, ahem...Paul Thomas Anderson?
by Tikidonkeypunch
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The channel's most popular image and branding campaign, "I want my MTV!," was launched in 1982. The media strategy and creative executions were developed by George Lois, based on a cereal commercial from the 1950s, "I want my Maypo!" that George created.[92] Over the years the campaign featured known artists and celebrities including Pete Townshend, Pat Benatar, Adam Ant, David Bowie, The Police, Kiss, Culture Club, Billy Idol, Hall & Oates, Cyndi Lauper, Madonna, Lionel Richie, Ric Ocasek, John Mellencamp, Peter Wolf, Joe Elliot, Stevie Nicks, Rick Springfield and Mick Jagger interacting with the MTV logo on-air, encouraging viewers to call their cable or satellite providers and request that MTV be added to their local channel lineups.[91] Eventually, the slogan became so ubiquitous it became incorporated as a sung (by Sting) lyric in the Mark Knofler penned Dire Straits' record "Money for Nothing."
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March 16, 2012, 3:37 p.m. CST
Steve Coogan as Kurt Loder and Karen Gillan as Tabitha Soren.
by Sequitur
Make it happen.
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What he should really want is a soul and some actual talent.
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j/k!
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He wrote was is still the best book about Ike and Tina(mostly Tina).
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Is a DB.
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I want to join the group that was stunned by the claim that the Dire Straits song coined the "I want my MTV" phrase. 'Cause it ain't true.
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I'll never forget watching "Live Aid" in '85 when Sting & Dire Straits performed the song live together, I believe it was the first time. They performed it again at the Prince's Trust concert that year. Then in '97, at a benefit for the Island of Montserrat at the Albert Hall, Sting & Mark Knopfler performed it once more.
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March 16, 2012, 4:03 p.m. CST
Much more interested in a book or movie about MTV's downfall
by Andrew Coleman
How it went from a pretty cool channel to just a channel that shows shitty reality television. It's happening to a lot of channels. Used to love the History channel they had great programming. Now it's just shows about Hicks and red necks or people trying to make money. No history anywhere.
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March 16, 2012, 4:05 p.m. CST
I feel like a cunt for the way I hate on Ratner. I don't like being like this... I'm not a nasty person... BUT
by ChickenStu
The guy just makes BILGE. Yeah, "Red Dragon" was OK but the script and cast were so great NO ONE could've fucked that up! Probably not even Uwe Boll. I'm gonna try and hold back on the hate - but honestly - Ratner has hardly any redeeming features at all - as a filmmaker OR a human being. Why is he still working? Rob Fucking Cohen has more talent than him!
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But a feature film adaptation sounds terrible.
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Sure it would be interesting, but then so would a documentary on John Holmes, JFK Theories, Jack the Ripper, etc. Doesn't mean Boogie Nights and other "reality-based" movies and those about "defining eras" were bad movies. What an idiotic thing to say. Fuck this Kidd pisses me off!
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March 16, 2012, 4:29 p.m. CST
How many days into shooting before Ratner lies about having fucked Duff?
by Cletus Van Damme
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March 16, 2012, 4:30 p.m. CST
@cletus van damme - you see? It's shit like that why Ratner doesn't deserve a hollywood career. I am NO hater, I promise. But the man fucking repulses me.
by ChickenStu
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Was not started by Dire Straits. That use to be the slogan for the promo when they would have the likes of Cyndi Lauper, Billy Idol, and David Bowieclaim they wanted their MTV. Dire Straits used it for Money For Nothing, but that saying had been around for awhile. Sadly, Money For Nothing is the only time oyu'll ever hear that now.
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March 16, 2012, 4:31 p.m. CST
Ratner Is Interesting: Constantly Announcing Projects, But...
by Media Messiah
...rarely delivering them? Have you noticed this? He has announced maybe a half a dozen projects in the last 6 years, and delivered nothing? What the hell is going on???
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March 16, 2012, 4:34 p.m. CST
PS: I'm Talking About His Series Of High-Concept Films...
by Media Messiah
...intended blockbusters, super hero films, etc. Whatever happened to them?
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and Michael Fassbender as Kurt Loder
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March 16, 2012, 5:07 p.m. CST
anyone shitting on Ratner's documentary skills obviously havent seen I KNEW IT WAS YOU
by Robert Evans
about John Cazale or the American Masters doc on Woody Allen. He can produce some good docs.
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Billy, they had nothing to do with the origins of MTV, let alone Soren and some of the other names bandied about on this thread who came along much later. We're talking JJ Jackson, Nina Blackwood, Alan Hunter, Mark Goodman, and the still adorable Martha Quinn. Those were your core personalities and the face of MTV for those early days well on into the 80s. But any movie made is gonna have to focus on Bob Pittman. He's the star of your picture. Look him up, kiddies...
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You won't look like a jerk
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Dumb as shit And Kennedy was on Bill Maher a few weeks ago..still annoying as fuck...I thought with age, my desire to cockslap would temper but no..it fired up instantly.
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March 16, 2012, 5:17 p.m. CST
High times, Hard time, Downtown Julie Brown...
by Stereotypical Evil Archer
Come off crisp and play up to the cynic Clean and schooled right down to the minute You need to hear that your life is rough Speaking out and cold that you’ve had enough You know how to live and your heart’s gone “bi” Substance rush giving art a try Your righteous squat’s been burned to the ground Pass the buck Never utter a sound High times, Hard time Downtown Julie Brown You turned out Wasted time Need escape me Missed it, right? You turned out Take my time Give it to you Get out
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To retire, what a hack!!!
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To retire, fucking hack!!!
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...it's contemporary movies set in the 80's
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March 16, 2012, 5:56 p.m. CST
Ratner is the MTV of movie directors...so this makes sense, and it would be complete, utter, fucking, god damn, SHIT
by Mel
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yeah that stuff always comes out badly. it doesnt seem like something that happens to be the 80s but they have to scream it to the audience with all the pop culture/fashion stuff. its one of the reasons That 80s Show only lasted the 1 season. every time i watched it was like "hey remember these/this/them from the 80s". That 70s Show got it right, it was clearly that decade but it wasnt the focus, just the setting. but yeah a documentary on MTV would be better. why watch actors trying to be these people and going through whatever when you can listen to the real ones telling the actual stories. no typical hollywood dramatizations. plus a movie can only be so long and i'm sure there's a lot to tell. a multi part documentary or even doc series could tell much more.
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March 16, 2012, 6:23 p.m. CST
Maybe this is actually something Ratner is passionate about?
by MCVamp
It's clear that the man with the 3 minute attention span loves music videos. He's never given any previous project more than a wet fart of craftsmanship, maybe this is THE ONE. Probably not. But hey, Alyson Hannigan for Martha Quinn.
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What are you bastards doing today?
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Kenan Thompson as JJ Jackson Justin Timberlake as Mark Goodman Some bland douche as Alan Hunter Zooey Deschanel as Martha Quinn
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Talk about C-slapping.
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That network is a pandering shitpile.
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March 16, 2012, 6:57 p.m. CST
A we can dance if you want to. We can leave your friends behind. Cause your friends don't dance and if they don't dance then there
by UltraTron
no friends of mine
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Or is that some special channel I gotta order?
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Why are people watching Jersey Shore anyways?
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AN IMPOSSIBLE TASK!!!
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Only fags watch that shit.
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And more importantly, do I really want to know?
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March 16, 2012, 7:13 p.m. CST
@gruntybear, I just made "cunt-biscuit" up on the spur of the moment. If you like it you may use it. It is my gift to you.
by ChickenStu
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March 16, 2012, 7:14 p.m. CST
And I fucking hate myself - because Brett Fucking Cuntner has turned me into a hater. Fuck you Ratner. I hate you for what you've turned me into.
by ChickenStu
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March 16, 2012, 7:20 p.m. CST
I mean, who's bright fucking idea was it to give that bone head the job on X-Men 3? I mean, what the fuck?!? After 1 and 2, I'd dare say it was worth WAITING for Singer to make Superman Returns and holding it off a couple of years...
by ChickenStu
WHAT. THE. FUCK.
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March 16, 2012, 7:22 p.m. CST
Brett Ratner is a piece of shit. FUCK HIM. FUCK ANYONE WHO GIVES HIM A JOB ON A FILM. FUCK HIS FILMS. FUCK HIS EXISTENCE.
by ChickenStu
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March 16, 2012, 7:24 p.m. CST
Ratner. If you're reading this - please retire. Just live a comfortable life on the profits you've earned - and LET SOMEONE WITH TALENT HAVE A FUCKING GO.
by ChickenStu
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Documentary style. Would be interesting to see some behind the scenes stuff re: the first decade. Didn't much matter beyond that. MTV is a complete waste of broadcast energy nowadays.
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He didn't speak for anyone's generation. Duff though, she was hot.
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that is just incorrect...MTV popularized it through marketing and the song just referenced that
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Take a breather. Sit the next few plays out. It's st. Pattys day weekend. Have a pint and relax mate.
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March 16, 2012, 9:12 p.m. CST
I want to punch ratner in the face. Can we make that movie instead?
by alienindisguise
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March 16, 2012, 9:19 p.m. CST
Jesse Camp lived in my friends building in L.A. in the early 00's
by MooseMalloy
Seemed like a nice guy and always had some hot skinny bitch with him.
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I used to just cringe hearing Downtown Julie Brown, waste of space as far as I'm concerned. If you want what Mtv used to be, watch VH1 Classic.
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...let's see if she's got some range.
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Since he is the real inventor of MTV
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March 16, 2012, 10:53 p.m. CST
The Kidd must be really young. As well as those
by Bedknobs and Boomsticks
of you referencing 90's MTV, solely. Which means I'm getting old. Anyhow, I agree that it hasn't been worth watching since the original VJ's, the occasional episode of The Cutting Edge, and showing The Young Ones and Monty Python at night.
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... Mtv may have gone to shit, but I have plenty of awesome memories that didn't actually involved music videoes...
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Is that they destroy their own great ideas. The video? Gone. Their reality TV? The scourge of broadcast signals worldwide. And I don't give a shit how much money they make, they offer nothing. No innovation. No originality. No compelling personalities. Nothing. They created an industry, and then became the worst thing about it. Real World gave birth to reality television. The first season, industry-wise, was ground breaking. Real people and to an extent, actual real life situations. Now? A complete, hyper-reality debacle of staged bullshit from people who learned to live life by watching staged reality television. I mean, these people think that over-reacting and getting drunk every night is how real rational adults act. Anyone who thinks those fame-starved whores on The Hills really "worked for their jobs" at high-end fashion retailers or just sat around all day everyday drinking coffee and planning gay conversations is about as bright as worn shoe leather. It's a monsoon of terrible. Today, MTV represents everything that is wrong with America. A bunch of entitled little asshole cuntdrops who think the world owes them a living. I hate them all. Let it burn.
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March 17, 2012, 12:17 a.m. CST
Billy The Kid is gonna keep tweaking that first sentence till it's right.
by don
Still not there.
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So many bastards. One after another. wowowowowowoowowowowowo
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I saw Tunnel Rats by Uwe Bol.... And that flick was FUCKING AWESOME! Why do I bring that up? B/C sometimes a change up works.... When has the rat tried this? Not any time I can think of.... What if skills learned are for something good? Besides this project could be killed in 2 weeks..... I have a definite wait and see feel for this......
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March 17, 2012, 2:09 a.m. CST
umm the last guy to want to punch Uwe Bol got his wish and got knocked out
by darthSaul666
Sure hate on X3.... Doesn't really mean shit for anything.....
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A doc on some self important pop culture ad space selling.... Or a drama about the blow and sex they had in back in the day..... I'd take the latter... If I want a doc I'd like something important like Darfur or Afganistan..... Unless the doc is mostly about the sex and blow they had back in the day...I don't really care about it's what is essentially MTV's revoltion of nothing.....
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March 17, 2012, 2:18 a.m. CST
I meant revolusion... Fuck I can't spell right now....
by darthSaul666
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She hasn't aged a day.
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Ratner isn't good enough to direct tampon commercials.
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March 17, 2012, 4:02 a.m. CST
everytime i see a Brett Ratner's picture, i feel a urge to punch him in the face.
by AsimovLives
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw6xesXLIAA
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March 17, 2012, 4:05 a.m. CST
The funny thi g is, the song itself was a parody on MTV as much on it's detractors.
by AsimovLives
but nobody listened to the lyrics.
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March 17, 2012, 4:53 a.m. CST
Let's get the facts straight here. "THE REAL WORLD" led to the eventual ruin of MTV and Network TV in general!
by Orionsangels
The success of "THE REAL WORLD" on MTV. Changed TV forever. As sad as that statement sounds. It's the bonafide truth! It boosted MTV's ratings. So Episode created more seasons. Then a spinoff with "ROAD RULES" Network TV saw the numbers and we got "Survivor" and the rest TV trash history! Although even before "THE REAL WORLD" MTV was slowly going down the tubes with Game Shows and Club Dance Shows, but "THE REAL WORLD" was the final nail in the coffin and who knew the effects it would have on the TV industry. Effects we're still suffering through to this day.
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thank goodness for HBO, SHOWTIME and STARZ, hem?
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March 17, 2012, 8:16 a.m. CST
The Kidd proves he's a kid by claiming that came from Straits.
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
As stated before it was the slogan before Money For Nothing. They just worked it into the song. Okay trivia geeks, who sang the line in the song. Hint: it wasn't Mark Knopler or any member of Dire Straits.
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March 17, 2012, 8:19 a.m. CST
Remote Control was cool. Non-video shows beyond it sucked.
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
MTV was floundering, trying to find out what it wanted to be. Decades later it's still trying.
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March 17, 2012, 8:49 a.m. CST
Man..Early MTV. I've NEVER wanted to FUCK anyone as badly as I did Martha Quinn
by conspiracy
She was just so wholesome, and cute...nobody is that wholesome and cute...there has to be an equally deviant side to that woman. When Martha left...MTV died, sure they had some hot slits after...Muff, Daisy, etc... But by then MTV had become corporate, sterile...people were TOO pretty, even the musicians seem manufactured ...and the music was slowly taking a backseat to reality shows and other such bullshit programming. When TRL came along...that was the nail in the motherfucking coffin.
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March 17, 2012, 8:58 a.m. CST
Remote Control gave us Kari Wuhrer...exceptional Bate Material
by conspiracy
Unfortunately Adam Sandler also got a gig on that show...and his cancer spreads till this day.
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CNN: THE MOVIE FOOD NETWORK: THE MOVIE ANIMAL PLANET: THE MOVIE SYFY: THE MOVIE AMC: THE MOVIE TCM: THE MOVIE IFC: THE MOVIE G4: THE MOVIE CARTOON NETWORK: THE MOVIE
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and either Danny Boyle or Fincher to direct. Rat can produce if he stays out of the way. Throw in a little cliched grit and a hard pg 13 rating. Has potential, but holywood will fuk it up.
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Through our brain and G-matter down the drain.
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I have been here a long time and rarely post. I have read much much worse from AICN staff and talkbackers. You are not a bunch of politically correct wanks. Cool off the delete button ya little gestapos, sil vous plait.
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March 17, 2012, 12:36 p.m. CST
This is right up Danny Boyle's alley; as far as Ratner....
by Orbots Commander
...as long he stays a Producer, then whatever. He's probably a better deal maker, really, then he is a director.
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March 17, 2012, 1:13 p.m. CST
asimovlives, how can that video be parodying something that didn't yet exist?
by OutsideChance
The video had to have been produced prior to the launch of MTV or they couldn't have aired it as the first song. Therefore, it was impossible for the Buggles' song to be a parody of MTV.
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March 17, 2012, 1:17 p.m. CST
And speaking of fucking Martha Quinn, remember Mojo Nixon?
by OutsideChance
Besides "Elvis is Everywhere" (which they did play), who can forget "Stuffin' Martha's Muffin" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPts1cPQRh8): "Oh, Martha, Martha Quinn...I wanna be doin' some sin with you, Martha Quinn..."
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sorry staff :(
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I used mild language to describe our plump and vaginally unwanting friends. What gives dudes?
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I posted in another discussion and proceeded to get plastered and thought I posted it in this discussion. Boy I feel like a real numb school. I repeat I was not censored today. Thank you for not banning me for stupidity and public drunkenness. You guys could even ban me for indecent exposure because I am nakey right now.
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March 17, 2012, 1:41 p.m. CST
yes, deaft0ne, but asimovlives specifically said it parodied MTV
by OutsideChance
...that's different than spoofing a concept.
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But they can at least give us a channel that does again.. MTV2 used to but now has become a carbon copy of MTV..
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That happens, especially in a freewheeling TB based on MB technology that's been more or less obsolete since 1999
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March 17, 2012, 3 p.m. CST
deaft0ne, I genuinly thought I'd made the term "cunt-biscuit" up...
by ChickenStu
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March 17, 2012, 6:22 p.m. CST
Technically old MTV still exist. There's a channel called "MTV HITS" It just plays Music Videos 24/7
by Orionsangels
Unfortunately it's not in every cable and satellite market. I have it on Comcast in Dade Florida. Another bad thing is, while yes all it plays is music videos. It's not in HD and let's face it. Modern music and videos suck and that's what they mostly play. There's still VH-1 Classics. MTV2 was supposed to be the answer to bringing back old MTV, but it also suffered the same fate of the original MTV.
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March 17, 2012, 6:29 p.m. CST
Hey, Brett Ratner. Give the movie a Martin Scorsese "Casino" style ending.
by Orionsangels
Where "Matthaus Passion" plays over a montage of what Vegas has become, but only here we see a montage of TV sets exploding coupled with clips from most of the popular reality TV shows since "The Real World" While "Matthaus Passion" plays in the background. Oh I can see it now, Ratner. The Fall of TV Civilization!
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March 17, 2012, 7:51 p.m. CST
Yes. Thank you MTV for COMPLETELY whoring out my generation.
by DanielnocharismaCraig
We either have whored out skanks who would love nothing better to be pimped out by some ghetto thug or some wanna be whored out skank who would love nothing better to be pimped out by some ghetto thug. Thanks MTV.
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I know what you mean. It's a site that definitely looks 'stuck in time', without a mobile version, a smart phone type app (iOS/Android), without proper talkback edit functions or heck, not even a podcast. It is a type of site that existed before the 2000's, on old phone line dial-up.
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March 17, 2012, 9:15 p.m. CST
Actually MTV started sucking before The Real World. It began with all kinds of stupid game shows.
by XxSoulFlyxX
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March 17, 2012, 11:32 p.m. CST
@xxsoulflyxx I mentioned that in my first post yesterday.
by Orionsangels
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It only felt like yesterday because I hadn't gone to bed yet.
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March 18, 2012, 12:46 a.m. CST
Sting sings the line because Dire Straits plagerized Sting's song
by MGTHEDJ
Sting was recording his first solo album at the same time in Switzerland that Dire Straits was recording Brothers in Arms. Sting heard a demo and Mark admitted, or Sting busted him for it, plagerizing Don't Stand So Close To Me. The line Get your Money for Nothing and Your chicks for free is Don't Stand So Close to Me. Sting agreed to sing on the final recording, and added the opening line of the song I Want My Mtv, because Sting had appeared in those Mtv promos. At least Billy didn't mess up as bad as the kid at Collider. In Collider's story he claimed the movie was going to be about Mtv in the 1990's. The idiot didn't even read the press release!------later-----m
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Greatest entertainment bio ever written.
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I hope they don't make some faux-documentary movie with bad likenesses for all the original VJs from the beginning.
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How this tard keeps getting movies to direct is beyond me. Do a little research, the asshole started out doing music videos for fucking Jessica Simpson, Miley Cyrus and goddamn Mariah Carey. Who for god's sake did this guy blow or provide giant bags of blow to inorder to became a movie director????
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If so, why can't he make this?
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March 19, 2012, 12:24 a.m. CST
I wonder if Radner who Radner will lie about sleeping with this time
by JacksParasites
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That seems like IONs ago. I don't think I've watched MTV sense the first season of Punk'd and I swore I wouldn't be that guy that got tired of watching the station. But I couldn't even tell you what they show on that network now.
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