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Capone wraps his JOHN CARTER coverage with a conversation with writer-director Andrew Stanton!!!

Hey everyone. Capone in Chicago here.

Andrew Stanton is one of Pixar's old guard, having had a hand in the story or screenplay of both TOY STORY films, A BUG'S LIFE, and MONSTERS, INC. He also co-wrote/co-director the Oscar-winning FINDING NEMO and the absolute perfection known as WALL*E. When I last spoke with Stanton back in June 2008, he was on the verge of locking himself in a room to work on the screenplay for what would be his first live-action project, the long-in-development adaptation of Edgar Rice Burroughs' JOHN CARTER OF MARS. At that point, Stanton told me the powers that be at Disney had not even decided if the film would be live action or animated.

First and foremost, Stanton wanted to make this movie because he had been a fan of the Burroughs series since he was an impressionable youth, and while he had assumed he'd never get the chance to make his version of the JOHN CARTER story, he still paid extra special attention to all of the reports of directors signing on and dropping out like all true fans of the material did. So the idea that he would get to transform his passion for the material into an actual, big-budget film seemed almost unthinkable to Stanton.

This interview could have easily gone on another hour with all of the question I had for him about what he thought needed changing and what he would have held faithful to the book with his dying breath. But we still managed to cover a lot of ground in our short time together. As a point of reference, this interview took place a few days after Harry conducted a lengthy interview with Stanton, so my challenge was to cover different ground. So please enjoy my talk with the master storyteller, Andrew Stanton…

Andrew Stanton: How are you, man?

Capone: It’s good to see you again.

AS: Wild place, huh? It’s like WESTWORLD.

Capone: Yes.

AS: Now that’s a movie nobody had remade that could be remade.

Capone: I want to say Oliver Stone actually was thinking about it at one point.

AS: I don’t want to lose your quality time, but I remember I watched WESTWORLD about two years ago and I was like “This is THE TERMINATOR. Wait a minute, this is THE TERMINATOR.” But you realize that the finale of WESTWORLD is half as exciting as the opening moment of TERMINATOR. [Laughs] It just needs a reboot.

Capone: After Harry abused you for an hour the other day, I’ll try to stay off those topics, but there is a lot to talk about here. When you were a younger man and you discovered these books, do you remember like an image or a description or something very specific about them that just hit you?

AS: Maybe it’s shallow, but I think when you’re 10 or 11, you’re buying albums for their covers, not for their music. [Laughs] I mean, I owned the Boston cover before I realized they were guitars upside down. The Michael Whelan covers just seduced me. I remember buying them before I had even finished the first book, because I was… They were wrapped around, and you could see the other side of them. They're the only ones I own, even though people have offered to like get the first-edition stuff, and they don’t really hold much for me. Those covers just really did something for me.

Capone: They do something for me now.

AS: And I’ve seen all of these other covers and I’ve got to say I’ve allowed myself to go look at that artwork a little bit more. I did a little bit in the development stage, but I didn’t want to accidentally copyright something, and so I just purposely stayed away. I just see what people bring to the table, but then now that the film has been done and sealed, I’ve been looking back at stuff and it’s just coming up naturally here and it’s interesting to see like “Oh there’s pieces of that. That person saw that too.” Still for me, and maybe it’s because it’s your first, but the Whelans still do the same thing to me now that they did when I was a kid.

Capone: And especially in the way the princess looks. When I watch Lynn [Collins] in this movie, and I’ve seen her in things before, but I specifically remember her more from THE MERCHANT OF VENICE than anything else. She’s going to be a real discovery for a lot of people. I’ve got to imagine in a lot of ways, as important as some of the other characters are, that getting her right was key.

AS: It was for me and I knew the same thing with Carter. I said, “For the greater good, I will be excluding some people, because he and she will not be matching what I have pictured.” There’s just no way around that. I felt like “Look, Carter can be much more than Prince Valiant, and Dejah can be much more than ‘Help me, help me, save me, save me.” And there are hints of that in their integrity of some of their conversations, but I felt “I need that to be more gettable right away when you meet them in these short scenes in movies. You need to get maybe what you got over all of these conversations over several books.”

There are people you meet that are just destined to lead. They may not be the most impressive person in the room, but when the shit hits the fan, you’re going to follow them and depend on them. They’ve got their scruples right. They’ve got their integrity. And she just walked in with such a sense of earned royalty and a passion. She’s a little bit like a, and I mean this in the kindest sense, a female Peter Sellers like she takes all of this whirling-dervish exuberance, and the minute she knows what her goal is with the character she’s playing and the things she’s got to do, it all gets zoomed in and focused and goes in this direction, and suddenly you feel like you have this weapon, you have this formidable weapon and I felt like “That’s Dejah.” Once I realized Dejah is Mars--if Carter falls in love with Dejah, if we fall in love with Dejah, then we fall in love with the cause. Nobody is going to fall in love with a political stance or a big broad statement; they are going to fall in love with how much that person cares about it, and the more I felt like she… It’s in her blood, she is the ruler. She was born to rule and lead and take over. She just did that for me. She just really did, and so I didn’t mind the licenses I had to take to push the look of her to get to match the books. It didn’t take much.

Capone: You’ve got to get kind of excited about unleashing that secret weapon.

AS: I feel like it’s just on the tip of the iceberg, their relationship. The big attraction for me is that even though they’ve spent all of this time in this movie, it was really a first date and then a rushed marriage, right? So what’s wonderful is like, “Okay, now comes the real relationship bumps and blumps of marriage.” And the real deep discovery of who each person is. Suddenly, I feel like we can just get meatier on the next one.

Capone: You mentioned in the roundtable that you stayed away from production art from previous incarnations over the last few years. But I am kind of curious, because you said as a fan, you were following those other productions and getting excited about the various directors that had signed on during the Paramount years.

AS: Well I wasn’t following the artwork, I was following the Hollywood gossip of who had what.

Capone: That’s what I mean, at the very least you were following that. Was there a version of it or director that you were most excited?

] AS: I don’t want to put anybody out of turn. [Robert] Rodriguez is not going to remember this, but it was literally the night of the Oscars that I won on NEMO, and I was at the Vanity Fair party. I had met Robert, when he''d come by Pixar and showed us all of this cool stuff he had done for SPY KIDS, and we really got along all of us. And he was kind of drunk down in the middle of the party, and I made a B line for him and I said “Robert, I am so psyched somebody is finally putting this on the screen. Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy. Don’t fuck it up.”

[Both Laugh]

AS: And he goes “What?” “I have been imagining this so long. I’ll tell you what. I’ll pitch to you how to open the movie. You can have it. You can put your name on it. I don’t care. All I care is that it’s done right.” And he was like, “Lay it on me.” So I pitched it to him, and he’s like “Great,” and I could just tell that, “He’s not going to do it. He’s being a real nice guy about it. He’s got his own ideas.” I kind of died a little and I thought, “Okay, that was my one shot at getting a little bit of influence on what I thought would be up there.” Then I just watched it fall and fall, and at first I’ve got to say Favreau hadn’t made IRON MAN yet, so I was like “What?” Then I saw ZATHURA and I went “Oh.” You can see the IRON MAN director in that, and that’s what started giving me a little bit of hope. It seemed like all of the artists he was hiring made a lot of sense, and I was hearing a lot of positive things through the artist network of development artists that work with us, and so I started to allow myself to get hopeful. It’s like having a losing team your whole life, and you’re finally allowing yourself “Maybe they will make it to the playoffs.” So that’s just what made me get that much more crest fallen when that fell through. So I think the most hopeful I ever got was Favreau.

Capone: When it first became yours, what was the first creature or image or sequence that you were like “That’s the one.”

AS: Tars. It was all about Tars. I was like a dog with a bone. I said, “We have to get the Tharks right. If we get the Tharks right, it buys us a ton of however we interpret other things.” But for me, it was so much a buddy story so much between Carter and Tars through so many of the books, and you always missed his absence if he wasn’t around and you were always psyched when he came back. I was like “We have got to get he Tharks right.” So we just hammered all our time on that, and Scott Patton from Legacy Effects, God bless him, really nailed it.

It was an evolutionary thing like most things. Iain McCaig came on for almost a year and, bless him, he had done so many Thark designs already in other film productions, but he was very optimistic and very open minded about, “Okay, what’s your take on it?” Mine was all about, “I don’t want it to seem like a fantasy. I don’t want it to seem like a Ken doll torso stuck on another Ken doll torso. I want to believe this really could exist. That’s all I have ever asked as a kid. I don’t always know what that means, but I just know that that’s the buttons it’s got to push. I’ve got to feel like nature could have really made this.”

So we looked at as much desert-dwelling people, both animals and human beings, and then we redesigned the entire musculature of their torsos. Then when it went to 3-D, it was Scott Patton at Legacy that basically nailed how to turn that dimensionalized. And he had been looking at photos of Clint Eastwood, and then we were midway through when we suddenly found out we were going to get Dafoe, and he was able to push it a little more towards Dafoe. It was one of these scary things where like it just clicked, and we were like “That’s our Thark.” From then on, everything sort of grew from that, even apes, even Thotes. It was really the smart thing to attack first.

Capone: So much of the book is episodic. “I learned this today; I did this today.” It’s not always about pushing a story forward.

AS: No, it’s about just journaling a new experience.

Capone: It is. It’s like a journal. Was that a tough thing to stretch that and pull a story out of that?

AS: Yeah. I had to say, “Can I make Carter become the guy that he is already in the book? Can I turn this into an origin story?” That was really the key to making something worth watching for the first time and then make the rest of all of this wonderful detailed moments just be ammunition you could possibly use to apply for the needs of just that arc. Then the other thing is that you needed a worthy antagonist. If Carter is going to end up being the savior of the world, then you need to have your antagonist have equal amount of threat to that same agenda, that same goal. So “Who wants to take away the world?” Thank God I could come up with somebody that was pretty much of that agenda, change a little bit of their back story and exactly their motive, but they already existed, they just existed in a later book, and bring them in.

Capone: And changed their time frame, too.

AS: Exactly, but it ends up lining up. Believe me, it all lines up so that THE GODS OF MARS works the way GODS works.

Capone: I know we talked a little bit about this last night, and I thought it was funny that it eems like you’ve almost forgotten that NEMO was being re-released later this year.

AS: I have, completely.

Capone: Are you not involved with that and what they are doing?

AS: I sadly haven’t been, because I’ve been literally been away or been busy in meetings and I can’t check the 3-D. John [Lasseter] loves 3D so much and Bob Whitehill, who supervised the 3-D for all Pixar films including CARTER, was supervising it, and the two of them were going gaga about it, but I said, “You don’t need my opinion.” So I’m sure it’s amazing.

Capone: I can’t wait to see it. I mean even the trailer looks pretty cool.

AS: They all say the extra depth, because of the murk we did just makes it go to a special place.

Capone: I can’t even imagine like “What’s it going to look like when they get above water?” because that’s a different look too.

AS: I know, maybe we will all throw up. We’ll get the bends. [laughs]

Capone: I hope so. Alright, well great. Thank you.

AS: Thanks.

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  • March 8, 2012, 4:47 p.m. CST

    i can't wait for this movie to be released

    by Erotic Oven

    so we can finally stop hearing about it every goddamn day.

  • you know the one. Like a spring put through a flanger. It's been used in the Avengers trailers, and the Battleship trailers, and now John Carter. Sick of it now...

  • March 8, 2012, 4:50 p.m. CST

    Seeing this again tonight.

    by tomandshell

  • March 8, 2012, 4:51 p.m. CST

    Stanton is a helluva writer

    by Logan_1973

    Gives me faith going into tomorrow.

  • Guilty as charged. -Namaste-

  • March 8, 2012, 4:58 p.m. CST

    THANK GOD this is the last interview!

    by Jaster Mareel

    I'm sure it's far from the last John Carter article unfortunately.

  • March 8, 2012, 4:59 p.m. CST

    Yet no reviews from you guys?

    by john


  • March 8, 2012, 4:59 p.m. CST

    It's almost over now.

    by Orbots Commander

    Once John Carter opens tomorrow, and quickly sinks over the weekend, we won't have to hear about it anymore. TGIF indeed.

  • March 8, 2012, 5:07 p.m. CST

    Hurry up and give this a positive a positive review

    by Nerd Rage

    So I can point and laugh at you.

  • March 8, 2012, 5:10 p.m. CST

    Fail to see how people who make Pixar kiddie fare

    by Bedknobs and Boomsticks

    are the best choice to do a lusty, lush, pulp adventure?

  • March 8, 2012, 5:16 p.m. CST

    It's getting pooped on

    by Scorchy

    Rotten Tomatoes is currently at 50%. And let's face it, when they removed the "of Mars" from the title so it could be the bland and boring "John Carter," we knew it would suck.

  • I'm not bothered about the amount of coverage here, but I am bothered about the reviews being held back.

  • March 8, 2012, 5:22 p.m. CST

    You didn't ask him the difficult questions, why?

    by D o o d

    I would say that right now, what is on everyones mind is the cost of the movie, the way it was marketted and the somewhat tentative reviews!

  • March 8, 2012, 5:26 p.m. CST

    Not A Good Movie...

    by Mako

    Been saying this for weeks since I saw it. And it is been given a critical beating across the board. Some people can transition well from animation to live action directing (Brad Bird). And some people can't. JOHN CARTER is a good example of this. This just seemed like a project that was way too big for a first time live action director to chew on.

  • March 8, 2012, 5:45 p.m. CST

    Agree with everything you stated, creepy.

    by Bedknobs and Boomsticks

  • March 8, 2012, 5:50 p.m. CST

    Again, I'm trying to keep an open mind...

    by StarWarsRedux

    ...but someone a ways back described it as looking like "Prince of Persia" meets "Attack of the Clones", which doesn't bode well for me. And I LIKE "Attack of the Clones".

  • March 8, 2012, 5:59 p.m. CST


    by RRL

    Listened to the score about 6 times yesterday and today, and it's very very good. You can hear his sources of inspiration, but it in a very pleasing and original way. He's got his own voice. A mature epic score. Highly recommended. (Haven't seen the film, going tomorrow)

  • March 8, 2012, 6:01 p.m. CST


    by RRL

    Once again, nice job on the interview.

  • Too weird to be accepted, too rare to be banned.

  • March 8, 2012, 6:04 p.m. CST


    by maikerukun

    Loved it at the screening, will love it again this weekend. The story moved with great pacing and timing, I was wicked intrigued, and literally when it ended we were like "we have to see the next one NOW!!" So for every one of you that hates it, there are others like me that loved it :)

  • March 8, 2012, 6:06 p.m. CST

    49% at Rotten Tomatoes

    by Chief Joseph

    I was open minded, despite AICN's shilling, but this has officially become a "wait for Netflix" movie for me.

  • March 8, 2012, 6:16 p.m. CST

    Trailers not doing it for me. John Avatar

    by havehope

    Sorry, just getting another Avatar vibe from this. Yes I know this story was written way before Avatar...but I am still getting that vibe from it

  • Whoops. No money for next movie.

  • March 8, 2012, 6:30 p.m. CST

    NPR reviewed it today-

    by RRL

  • March 8, 2012, 6:31 p.m. CST

    Guys, see the movie before you wish for it to fail

    by Mattman

    This movie failing will not do the genre any favors, because it is a GOOD one. It gets it right. Who cares if AICN is overhyping it? What does that have to do with ANYTHING? No one else is hyping it enough.

  • Get your priorities straight. Most of you haven't even seen this yet.

  • It now ranks worse than Phantom Menace on RT. It has really hurt AICN's credibility in my eyes.

  • March 8, 2012, 6:36 p.m. CST

    James Cameron to visit deepest place on Earth!

    by justmyluck

  • March 8, 2012, 6:36 p.m. CST

    meant "non-stop" damn ipad...

    by vorlonkosh

  • March 8, 2012, 6:50 p.m. CST

    Rotton Tomatoes rating=proof RT is crap?

    by Drath

    Kind of hard to reconcile such diverse opinions since they each saying the exact opposite is true of the movie. I wish I could say I can just decide for myself, but it hurts that a movie that "gets it right" should be dismissed for resembling movies that didn't.

  • March 8, 2012, 6:56 p.m. CST

    Harrys beem

    by ShakaLaka Lambo

  • March 8, 2012, 6:58 p.m. CST

    harrys been pimpin this crap for years let it go!!!!

    by ShakaLaka Lambo

    Its gonna suck bring on amazing.

  • March 8, 2012, 7:03 p.m. CST

    Harry. C'mon. Give Creepythinman a job to pay for his turrets medication...

    by Squinty CGI Flynn

  • March 8, 2012, 7:08 p.m. CST

    What is AICN supposed to do? *Not* cover this movie?

    by Laserbrain

    It's a major tentpole adapted from a seminal series of sci-fi adventure novels by a director of established talent whose childhood love of the source material has been well-publicized. It is a *significant* geek culture event and irrespective of one's own feelings, preconceptions, personal taste or outright mindless prejudice regarding the film there is no sensible argument *against* actually reporting about the fucking thing. On *this* of all web sites. If you think it looks bad and are not planning to see it then I can respect that but please, for the love of God, just let it go and roll on to some other forum. We can probably do without your infantile, solipsistic bitching about John Carter's unworthiness as a subject for coverage on AICN because it's not the movie *you* wanted to read about today.

  • March 8, 2012, 7:22 p.m. CST

    49% on Rotten Tomatoes now.

    by happybunni

    Stanton's gonna be pissed about that.

  • March 8, 2012, 7:23 p.m. CST

    I was at the Screening last night in Los Angeles.

    by conspiracy

    I'll just say was not a good film. It wasn't Horrible...but it wasn't good either. 1. There simply isn't enough action for an "Action/Adventure" film, and what is there never gets the blood pumping...especially as the Hero never seems truly in peril. 2. Someone above said the pacing was great...I disagree, Pacing was part of the problem. In between the few action set pieces was far too much endless dialog about things that we the viewers have not yet been vest in. ENDLESS dialog...Barsoom this and Jeddak, and terminology flying at you like shit at a fan.. that and scenes of walking and rowing and more walking. Which I'm sure the hard core fans loved. But my wife...who likes a good film, and represents the Typical film goer was yawning, as were the ladies to my right. 3. It tries to pack too much into into too few minutes...and given that they waste precious minutes on things that don't walking, well...they just tried to pack 10 gallons into a 5 gallon container. 4. The Tharks are interesting...really the only thing we the view can latch onto...they are fun. I'll try to write a full review later...and while Disney Marketing did fuck this up, and Rich Ross should be called to task for mishandling this all honesty...they really didn't have much to work with.

  • March 8, 2012, 7:24 p.m. CST

    AICN continues to pimp this HARD

    by Rupee88

    I thought they might not keep up their three "articles" a day average about this loser film but they are still on track.

  • March 8, 2012, 7:24 p.m. CST

    I can't understand the hate for this movie...

    by bowtiehoon

    Saw it with my wife last night, it was awesome... Favorite movie for the year for me so far.

  • And I am being objective as I can here...their IQ is very low...probably well below 100.

  • As I come on this site every day, it's just put me off the movie unfortunately.

  • March 8, 2012, 7:30 p.m. CST

    John Carter Trolls At 75 %!

    by Real Deal

    Honestly I've noticed people on this website trashing a film they little or nothing about before but this one takes the cake. I mean what do you guys get out of it? If this had been a film that had been out for awhile and quite a few of you had seen it that would be different. That isn't even close to what happened. You didn't even give it a chance because of weak marketing ( easy prey I guess that and kids who don't read books anymore ) had little knowledge of the story and yet you gleefully wanted to trash it. Also I don't think this is a case of AICN getting paid to cover it. Some of us who haven't forgotten how to read enjoyed these books in our youth and really wanted to see something that was special to us SF and Fantasy fans realized in film form. But I guess that's something too complex for some of you to understand. Hell maybe it's a bad film but I'm guessing not. I'm still going to see and I'll bet I enjoy the hell out of it!

  • March 8, 2012, 7:32 p.m. CST

    Re Mako

    by Real Deal

    " Been saying this for weeks since I saw it " Oh so you saw it " Weeks " ago.

  • March 8, 2012, 7:46 p.m. CST

    Why aren't any reviews up?

    by happybunni

    Either the reviews are mostly bad or a mixed bag, and follow the rotten tomatoes score of rotten, and they're holding them back as to not hurt the film... Or saving a bunch of John Carter articles for next week to beat the dead horse that is this movie even more?

  • March 8, 2012, 7:49 p.m. CST

    too funny

    by Squinty CGI Flynn

  • March 8, 2012, 7:50 p.m. CST

    dar1980: That transformers noise

    by DadTimesTwo

    It's so funny you mentioned that... I have been annoyed by the fact that every action movie has to have that "bwowwwmmmm" noise in it.

  • March 8, 2012, 7:50 p.m. CST

    I mean "every action movie TRAILER"

    by DadTimesTwo

  • March 8, 2012, 7:54 p.m. CST

    I bet the movie would have been awesome if it was animated

    by happybunni

    Shouldn't have let Stanton do live action. Especially live action with a 250M budget.

  • March 8, 2012, 7:56 p.m. CST

    just to back track a bit...

    by bowtiehoon

    Movie isn't perfect...pacing etc... my expectations for it were pretty low...but on a whole its a very solid movie... Too bad the SW prequel episode 1 look of the mars scenes make it impossible to market... Damn you George lol...

  • March 8, 2012, 7:57 p.m. CST

    real deal

    by Mako

    Yes. Weeks ago. Great to work in an industry where I can see movies before they get released to the public.

  • March 8, 2012, 7:57 p.m. CST

    Why I'm waiting for DVD, for those that care

    by Chief Joseph

    1) Lackluster previews 2) Embargos. 3) Neutered title 4) Post-converted 3D 5) Lukewarm, mixed reviews. AICN's weird embargoed hype is annoying, but isn't factoring in to my equation. Let me also state that I only go to the movies once or twice a year. Something has to be REALLY good to get me to mingle with the modern cell phone-ringing and texting modern audiences. I probably will Netflix the movie eventually, so Disney should be getting some money back that way.

  • I literally lol at that. And I never fucking lol. It's human, and retarded. Bravo.

  • March 8, 2012, 8:01 p.m. CST

    Saw it last at the AICN screening...

    by Kirbymanly

    First, thanks AICN for the free movie! A very fun night indeed! I hate to break it to all of you who are constantly bitching about the ads/trailers... Well, actually, I'd love to break it to you... The movie is very, very fun. Is it perfect? No. But I never once thought any of it was "dull" as some people are clamming. Is the movie going public THAT used to Bay-shit that they can't let a film stop and breathe for a moment? My girlfriend came as my guest, having no idea what the story was, and had a complete blast. In fact, she said on the way out, "I can't believe that was over two hours. It just flew buy!". Get over the bullshit ads and go see it.

  • March 8, 2012, 8:04 p.m. CST

    Speaking of Rotten Tomatoes, check out a real BOMB

    by Chief Joseph WTF does Eddie Murphy keep getting work!?

  • March 8, 2012, 8:14 p.m. CST

    Another Set Of Positive Reviews

    by Real Deal

  • March 8, 2012, 8:18 p.m. CST

    And Another!

    by Real Deal It's not like there are only positive reviews but it's hardly as bad the Trolls here make it sound.

  • March 8, 2012, 8:29 p.m. CST

    kirbymanly...This film doesn't goes to sleep.

    by conspiracy

    And for the record...I despise action films such as the Bay atrocities and champion thinking Sci-fi such as 2001... If you were at the LA screening you had to have noticed a change in audience reaction as the film went on...first 30 minutes...laughs, some cheers and claps....end of the film...quick polite smattering of applause, and over half the theater empty and a line out the exit door before the below the lines appeared... The problem with John Carter is that it want's to be both and ends up being neither. It is a very very pretty, very dull film with characters that I myself just can't buy into...the Tharks being the only exception. There is a LOT of wasted time in this film, which I can't go into depth about without spoiling....but there are sections at the beginning and end that could have been handled more expediently and provided the same information. And I also just never bought into the Lead or the character in general...for a 19th century man thrown onto a different planet and confronted by strange creatures and events...he sure does seem smug and clear headed.

  • Edit Button Harold.

  • March 8, 2012, 8:34 p.m. CST

    Went to the screening the other night...

    by Andrew Coleman

    I loved this movie. Really enjoyed myself. I'm seeing it again over the weekend. If you're planning on avoiding this film in the theater you'll simply be hurting yourself.

  • March 8, 2012, 9:12 p.m. CST

    Hey Conspiracy, sorry to hear that

    by Mattman

    Respect your opinion, I know it's genuine. I had the completely opposite reaction to it. I was surprised by how much action there was, and I thought the pacing never let up. I didn't once find myself shifting in my seat, and my eyes were glued to the screen. Thought the live action characters were great, especially Purefoy and Dejah. Sorry you didn't enjoy it. It struck all the right notes with me. Where were you sitting, btw? I was in the back row of the non-stadium seats (which was actually perfect for the 3D).

  • March 8, 2012, 9:50 p.m. CST



    every midnight imax screening in so-cal is sold out.

  • March 8, 2012, 9:57 p.m. CST

    Hey Mattman....

    by conspiracy

    of the human actors the chick was the best of the bunch...she CAN act under all that flesh. If they do another...More Tharks...less John Carter for me. We were smack in the middle...between a family unit and two teenaged guy who kept playing footsie and grab ass with each other... And dude...was that the fucking coldest night in LA in years? Fucking Amateur making us wait outside when it was a slow night at the theater and they had PLENTY of room inside. was fun...and I thank Beaks for the invite. Now...PROMETHEUS....I'll be there for that shit in a full body condom so I don't soil those around me by the time Sir Ridley is done bending me over.

  • March 8, 2012, 10:02 p.m. CST

    The energy and time lisab has spent shit talking John Carter...

    by slone13 disturbing. Clearly psychotic behavior.

  • March 8, 2012, 10:31 p.m. CST

    hey, give lisab a break. she's an ex child tv star.

    by antonphd

    life spoiled her early on and now she's a bitter fuck up who hates everyone who cares about anything talkback is all she has between $10 hand jobs at the car wash

  • March 8, 2012, 11:59 p.m. CST


    by Kirbymanly

    I didn't notice any of the audience reaction because I was very close to the front. The sound drowned out anything that wasn't the film. As for the crowd running for the door... That's because everyone wanted to get their cell phone back from the Disney people. I honestly couldn't believe they went to that length. I mean, it's a 3-D movie... why would anyone want to tape that? Plus, who has enough memory on their phone to tape a 2 hour plus movie? I thought that was pretty silly.

  • March 9, 2012, 12:07 a.m. CST

    conspiracy, yeah wtf was up with the cold?

    by Mattman

    Was such a relief when they finally let us in. I'm only an hour from L.A., and today it's fucking hot! Makes no sense.

  • March 9, 2012, 12:09 a.m. CST

    People still pay attention to Lisab?

    by Mattman

    Her shtick is boring. (Or should that be "stick"... cuz she has one of those too)

  • March 9, 2012, 12:10 a.m. CST


    by KilliK

  • March 9, 2012, 12:29 a.m. CST

    !!!Fuck John Carter!!!

    by nobbythehappyelf

    And set visits too...

  • So Stanton had some things right it seems. On a personal note, I'm even surprised I type this, but seeing wide-eyed dumbfounded Daryl Sabara as Burroughs made me think about that Robert Rodriguez version. Boy would I want to see this one...

  • March 9, 2012, 2:11 a.m. CST

    Just got back from a midnight screening

    by D.Vader

    In short? I loved it.

  • March 9, 2012, 2:42 a.m. CST

    Good on you, D. Vader!

    by Kirbymanly

    I knew I fought for your re-instatement for a reason! ;)

  • March 9, 2012, 2:53 a.m. CST

    HAH! Thank you, kirbymanly!

    by D.Vader

    If you get to see it this weekend, I hope you enjoy it! The audience I saw it with, at a MIDNIGHT screening, was about a third full of the theater. That was impressive. And everyone seemed to enjoy it. No snickers, no talking during the movie, no yawns or complaints. When it ended I heard some claps. No one got up and complained or expressed their displeasure loudly like so many do when they see a bad movie. I take that as a good sign.

  • Wait til you see it with a normal audience who have no idea what the hell is going on, or what anyones names is.

  • March 9, 2012, 3:04 a.m. CST

    Midnight screenings *are* a good test audience

    by D.Vader

    Sure there will be diehard geeks there. But there will also be regular people who just want to see the movie, and there were plenty of those in this screening I went to. Quite a few young girls. Not geeky looking girls. Normal looking girls who probably thought Taylor Kitsch was hot. A few (forgive the term) thuggish looking guys who probably thought the movie looked cool too. Definitely not geeks. Normal. Audience. Members. Names are hard to remember on first viewing. But do you really think "normal audiences" got everyone's name in LOTR on the first try? Legolas and Gimli and the difference between Merry and Pippin? Elrond and Arwen? Sure, we give LOTR a lot of credit (and its deserved), but many of *us* already know that story, so we can't approach it from a first time view. I'm sure if you see John Carter a few times, just like you did LOTR and Star Wars, you'd get all the funny names and places memorized too.

  • I'll be John Carter.

  • March 9, 2012, 10:12 a.m. CST

    Wow, how all the JC fans are desperate to defend it.

    by Tikidonkeypunch

  • March 9, 2012, 10:30 a.m. CST

    LOL Some weird shit on rotten tomatoes regarding this movie.

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    While skimming through reviews for JC I noticed many negative reviews (and there are many) almost always have the same few people commenting/responding back about the reviewers themselves and attacking the reviews/reviewers. I don't usually dig that far into RT so maybe this is a standard geek thing.........but man is it fucking weird and sad. lol