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Mini-Docback!? BBC Home Entertainment, AICN, And The Alamo Drafthouse Invite You To A Free Screening Of DOCTOR WHO: 'The Three Doctors'!!

 

 

 

Merrick here...

...bringing you word of an exciting screening opportunity for WHOvians old and new, tried and true.  

BBC Home Entertainment, Aint it Cool News, and the Alamo Drafthouse have come together for a big-screen presentation of  the newly remastered classic DOCTOR WHO story “The Three Doctors.”  ‘Newly remastered’.  ‘Big screen’.  ‘DOCTOR WHO’.  Few notions on Earth could stir my heart as fully.  

The episode is described thusly by BBC:

The Time Lords are in crisis. A powerful force is draining their energy into a mysterious Black Hole, and they must recruit the Doctor to save them. But when the third Doctor (Jon Pertwee) gets targeted by the force, they realize that one Doctor isn’t enough for this mission- they’ll need the help of the first Doctor (William Hartnell) and the second Doctor (Patrick Troughton) as well. All three of the Doctor’s incarnations, aided by Jo Grant and UNIT, must face the wrath of Omega – a fallen Time Lord trapped in a universe of anti-matter, with one thing on his mind: revenge. 

In keeping with DOCTOR WHO’s longstanding tradition of transmitting on Saturday afternoons/early evenings, “The Three Doctors” will screen on Saturday March 24 at 1pm - at the amazing new Alamo Drafthouse location on Slaughter Lane here in Southwest Austin.  

I’ll be present and hosting the event, which is FREE TO THE PUBLIC and is first come, first-served, although attendees can reserve a seat with a $5 food voucher which can be found HERE.      

Fans are warmly encouraged to show up in their very finest WHOvian costumes and garb, or to flaunt their favorite WHOish paraphernalia. We’re currently assembling a nifty prize pack as well, which we’ll tell you more about later.  

I’d like to offer my vast respect and appreciation to the fine folks at both BBC Home Entertainment and the Alamo Drafthouse, all of whom have worked tirelessly to make this unique opportunity a lovely reality. 

The newly restored "Three Doctors" is now available for pre-order on DVD HERE.

 

 

- PLEASE NOTE THAT FRIDAY DOCBACK MODERATION RULES ARE IN IN EFFECT -

 

 


 
DOCBACK CODE OF CONDUCT
 
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And, above all... 

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In short, it's easy.  Be excellent to each other.  Now party on...

 

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  • March 5, 2012, 10:56 a.m. CST

    The Three Doctors!

    by Kauzi Sezso

    Love The Three Doctors. The only shame is how Hartnell comes off, but that couldn't be helped. Indeed, it's a wonderful bit of miracle he was able to do this at all! Great Troughton stuff! Our first taste of the Pertwee/Troughton interactions. Great Brig stuff, too! Wish I were able to go -- I'm very jealous of all who'll be there. Enjoy!

  • March 5, 2012, 11:01 a.m. CST

    Yeah, sometimes it sucks not living in Texas.

    by V'Shael

    But only sometimes.

  • March 5, 2012, 11:04 a.m. CST

    Why is this happening in the US?

    by Darth_Tarantino

    Seems strange that a remastered version of a Classic Who story (one of my caves too) is getting a special US screening but nothing here in the UK. Where the show originates. Disappointing but I hope any of you guys who can make it have a great time.

  • March 5, 2012, 11:06 a.m. CST

    Faves, not caves...

    by Darth_Tarantino

    Bloody predictive text! :P

  • March 5, 2012, 11:13 a.m. CST

    Pretty ho-hum story - It's no "Genesis of the Daleks"

    by obijuanmartinez

  • March 5, 2012, 11:37 a.m. CST

    Have A Great Time, People!

    by wtriker1701

    If only I could change location from Platjenwerbe to Austin for just that weekend... but there seems to be no TARDIS available... Hey, Doctor, need a companion for March, 24th??? I'd know a place to go... ;-)

  • March 5, 2012, 11:47 a.m. CST

    Have fun!! That sounds like a blast.

    by gotilk

    Wish I could fly out and join you. Dang. Well, once the Drafthouse opens in SF... who knows? I know I'll be there every chance I get.

  • March 5, 2012, 12:07 p.m. CST

    Whotininnies?

    by gotilk

    You know I could not resist.

  • March 5, 2012, 12:19 p.m. CST

    Actually, gotilk, what would be good for the event

    by DoctorTom

    would be to have Ken down with Merrick to give a live Whotininnies discussion after showing the story, and record it so that the rest of us can enjoy it. It's a shame I live too far away from Austin, this sounds like a fantastic thing to have!

  • March 5, 2012, 12:23 p.m. CST

    doctortom Now THAT is a great idea.

    by gotilk

    That would be fun to hear, for sure.

  • Which is, apparently, a rock quarry in Northern England. Amazing how much of the known and theoretical universe looks like an English rock quarry. Anyway, I loved that show. The Three Doctors was nowhere near as good as the Five Doctors, but it was better than the Two Doctors. Oh yeah, what the hell is it with one of the doctors always getting stuck in some kind of contrived time-eddy? Happened to William Harntell in the Three Doctors, and Tom Baker in the Five Doctors. They never made it to their respective quarries.

  • March 5, 2012, 12:41 p.m. CST

    Great job organising this Glen!

    by Mister Vertue

    I know it can't have been easy for you to arrange. And you *know* that I *know*. Regardless, still wish I could be there to join in and have some fun! I hope you get a great turn-out and lots of support from our fellow Docbackers and their friends. And I fully support the excellent idea of Ken joining you and filming a live Whotinnies for us all to enjoy. Say it can be done!

  • March 5, 2012, 12:47 p.m. CST

    Hey, I just found out...

    by Mister Vertue

    Justin will be in Austin on the date you mentioned. Want me to pull some strings? I can get your books signed. Just say the word...

  • March 5, 2012, 12:49 p.m. CST

    Wish I could go

    by Sci-FiJunky

    Unfortunately, I can't afford a plane ticket to TX!

  • March 5, 2012, 1:01 p.m. CST

    MOV re: Justin

    by Merrick

    You. Are. The. MAN!!! (doing a touchdown dance like these: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Py5NfEv6c6s)

  • March 5, 2012, 1:08 p.m. CST

    You guys have all the fun.

    by Deagol21

    Sigh. Sure would be nice to have some events like this in my area. I live up here in the great white north of MN, and these types of events are rare, even in the Twin Cities area - which I do not live in. Its still a 2 hour drive each way for me. I'll have to satisfy myself with watching the DVD on my TV at home. : (

  • March 5, 2012, 1:14 p.m. CST

    So there!

    by John Ary

    When do the vouchers go on sale?

  • March 5, 2012, 2:07 p.m. CST

    If only it was the week before!

    by sunspot_mike

    I'll be in Austin until the 18th, now I'm mad with jealousy!

  • March 5, 2012, 3:13 p.m. CST

    Why can't they do these cool things at all the locations?

    by Yotz Von Frelnik

  • March 5, 2012, 3:17 p.m. CST

    you lucky, lucky

    by Martin Hogg

    ...bastards

  • March 5, 2012, 3:22 p.m. CST

    you lucky lot

    by alexander

    I'll be watching this this month instead: http://tinyurl.com/7jrwoz3

  • March 5, 2012, 3:26 p.m. CST

    ps River Song IS the Rani!

    by alexander

  • March 5, 2012, 3:27 p.m. CST

    (I know some of you need a bit of time to come to terms with this)

    by alexander

  • March 5, 2012, 3:48 p.m. CST

    @ Capone!!!!

    by chiwrtr72

    Bring this to Chicago!! I bet the fine folks at Hollywood Boulevard would show this...

  • March 5, 2012, 3:53 p.m. CST

    Alan_Grant_lives - the Rani WISHES she were River Song

    by DoctorTom

    It would mean, at the very least, she'd have better writers. ;)

  • In "The Three Doctors", William Harntell was too sick to do more than he did, and, in "The Five Doctors", Tom Baker just didn't want to do it. So, "time-eddy" translates into "real-life". I hope we have better luck with the 50th anniversary next year.

  • My dream 50th anniversary Doctor Who Special would be, a) include, at least, the last four Doctors. b) be 90 minutes or longer. And, c) involve the Time War. Yes, I know, if we're lucky, maybe one of the above will happen. But, I can dream, can I?

  • March 5, 2012, 4:18 p.m. CST

    axcel1 - I'll be shocked if at least one of those wasn't true

    by Mister Vertue

    Truly shocked. And even a wee bit disappointed.

  • March 5, 2012, 4:21 p.m. CST

    doctortom I know I know

    by alexander

    it's alot to take in... no sorry, I mean in the Slyvester McCoy opening run she is a bit like Frank Millers Wonder Woman from All Star Batman and Robin to begin with yes. But still, in time... you will all come around!

  • March 5, 2012, 4:22 p.m. CST

    alan_grant_lives - River Song IS The Rani

    by Mister Vertue

    Nobody will need more time than me to come to terms with that.

  • March 5, 2012, 4:24 p.m. CST

    I read something today that made me laugh a lot.

    by Mister Vertue

    A Doctor Who 'fan' wrote this post: 'I hope they don't kill off River Song in the next series.' The replies to that were hilarious. The internet can be very cruel at times, but some people deserve it, don't they?

  • Out of my 3 part dream, if I had to pick one, I hope we get a four Doctor reunion.

  • All I can say is, Oh My God!!!!!!!!!!!!! And, yes, they do.

  • March 5, 2012, 5:34 p.m. CST

    I hope they do kill of River Song in the next series

    by HornOrSilk

    And have it as the opening of the season. Then have time be rewritten and she comes back to life.

  • March 5, 2012, 6:09 p.m. CST

    A MONDAY DOCBACK?

    by CHRISTIAN_BALE_TRASHED_MY_LIGHTS

    OUTRAGEOUS

  • March 5, 2012, 7:03 p.m. CST

    I want a River/Sexy Betty/Veronica Episode.

    by Perigee

    ...And then, there's this pool of warm oil, see? And they start to fight and fall in t... ... Nevermind. I never said that.

  • March 5, 2012, 7:08 p.m. CST

    OOh. Hitler Bonus #2

    by Perigee

    Just realized a loophole. River in the hospital, told that she used up all her regens... And then Rule 1 invoked, immediately afterwards. We kin have Rivers as long as we want. ...I wonder how River would be as an EX-Wife..? Rani, watch out. ...How would you even calculate Timelord Alimony?

  • March 5, 2012, 8:42 p.m. CST

    Season 6 - Finally on Netflix

    by tailhook

    Outside of a couple episodes, was largely rubbish. Season 5 was far better.

  • March 5, 2012, 10:28 p.m. CST

    @MOV - Child's Play?

    by veteran_of_mu

    I'd love to know if the idea in the "Child's Play" deerstalker at the end of the Friday docback is proper thinking. For your convenience in responding I distill same below: In SIB Holmes remarks, ~On hearing a smoke alarm, a mother would look towards her child.~ So I think in Study In Pink he plays the Cabbie this way: ~I am playing. This is my turn. [...] This is about your children.~ To which the cabbie responds, maudlin, ~When I die they won't get much, my kids.~ And in that moment focusing on his children and his mortality the cabbie looks to the pill bottle on his left. Sherlock concludes that's where death is. Then after the misdirection about the gun the cabbie asks, ~Just before you go, did you figure it out? Which one's the good bottle?~ Sherlock: ~Course. Child's play.~ Yes?

  • March 5, 2012, 10:30 p.m. CST

    Killing off River...

    by spikeandjezebel

    Ummm, she was killed off in her very first story, "Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead".

  • March 5, 2012, 11:15 p.m. CST

    @spikeandjezebel

    by Dreamfasting

    Given last season's arc, I think we can now safely assume that the writers can do just about anything that pops into their heads and eventually draw a plot spline that winds through all the dots :) ( oh, and I'm envious of the people able to go to this Three Doctors screening - I hope a good time is had by all )

  • March 5, 2012, 11:39 p.m. CST

    A tear falls on my TARDIS...

    by ShadowTiger

    ...because I'm here in Austin and I CAN'T GO! Stupid family commitments. Where are my PRIORITIES!?! Mumble mumble... <sob>

  • March 6, 2012, 1:36 a.m. CST

    Glen? Ken? Live Whotininnies? What?

    by Ken Plume

    Who would want to witness such a silly, silly thing. Who? Who would even want that after a screening? Who would want that at a convention, even? Who? So silly. So very, very silly. Silly, even. WHO would want that? I say, WHO????

  • March 6, 2012, 3:22 a.m. CST

    River wasn't killed

    by INWOsuxRED

    She was saved.

  • March 6, 2012, 5:52 a.m. CST

    kenplume

    by gotilk

    *raises hand*

  • March 6, 2012, 7:28 a.m. CST

    River

    by murren

    her body was killed, no?

  • March 6, 2012, 7:38 a.m. CST

    inwosuxred and murren - River

    by Mister Vertue

    Body was killed, mind was saved. She's dead, but she's also alive - in the Library's database. So technically you're both right.

  • March 6, 2012, 7:40 a.m. CST

    kenplume - we have another raised hand here

    by Mister Vertue

    Two raised hands is enough to make it happen, surely? I *can* call you Shirley, right?

  • March 6, 2012, 7:42 a.m. CST

    spikeandjezebel - killing off River

    by Mister Vertue

    And that's why the young lady was mocked so badly.

  • March 6, 2012, 7:58 a.m. CST

    caractacuspotts - Child's Play?

    by Mister Vertue

    I'd call that astute thinking and your theory certainly seems sound!

  • March 6, 2012, 8:39 a.m. CST

    Cool!

    by veteran_of_mu

    Ta mate. Now for Doc's sake don't say anything about that old Rory HAT - if you noticed it at all. If it's right I want to save crowing for when it turns up on the screen. And if it's wrong I prefer to avoid eating crow with hat. One's enough!

  • March 6, 2012, 9:50 a.m. CST

    Maybe you can create inverted time cones

    by Himbo

    and have a meeting between the friday Docback and the Monday Dockback called "The Two Docbacks." Late 80s I was at a small Dr. Who con run by the Cincy PBS affilliate. They showed The Three Doctors and later, The Two Doctors. The Two Doctors was very cool, as the Colin Baker eps had not started showing stateside yet. I remember these being fun, if not as fun as "The Five Doctors". Two Doctors was a pretty good hoot.

  • She just can become mostly dead. Cue Princess Bride.

  • March 6, 2012, 9:57 a.m. CST

    Another way to kill her off in the next season

    by HornOrSilk

    Have a kind of "Back to the Future" sequence with the 11th Doctor in the library. In the end, have him bring River back out --via the flesh.

  • March 6, 2012, 11:02 a.m. CST

    himbo - The Two Docbacks

    by Mister Vertue

    Only an event that threatens the very existence of the Universe itself would warrant such an undertaking! For example - Glen and Ken (Klen?) not doing a Whotinnies interview that was subsequently posted to YouTube for us all to enjoy.

  • March 6, 2012, 11:05 a.m. CST

    hornorsilk - River isn't 'mostly dead'

    by Mister Vertue

    She's definitely all dead. Didn't you see the deleted scene in which the Doctor went through her pockets looking for loose change?

  • March 6, 2012, 11:11 a.m. CST

    Ken - third hand raised here

    by DoctorTom

    even though I won't be there. It MUST be recorded - a podcast of this will probably give you a lot more hits, and gives you a chance in Austin to plug Whotininnies.

  • March 6, 2012, 11:14 a.m. CST

    MOV re: 'Klen'

    by Merrick

    'Klen' is the new 'Moffle'.

  • March 6, 2012, 11:17 a.m. CST

    I want to live forever in the library with River.

    by gotilk

    Sounds like a theory from Clue though.

  • March 6, 2012, 11:17 a.m. CST

    MOV - 50th anniversary special

    by DoctorTom

    I wouldn't be surprised either if at least one of the three things mentioned were true. If I had to pick which one it's going to be, though, I would say that it would be the prediction of a 90 minute special. Given Eccleston's stated feelings I doubt we'll get him in the special, so we wouldn't have all of the last 4 Doctors (though that doesn't preclude having some of the earlier ones - I think people would give the show some slack about the earlier actors looking much older now, and Moffat has already found a way around that issue once. Actually, if you want to borrow a concept from the New Adventures, you could take the idea of the earlier Doctors being personas in the Doctor's mind, and have story where at some point the Doctor has a scene inside his own mind where he's talking with the mental personas of his earlier incarnations. It wouldn't matter if they're looking older now in a case like that. Also, if you're doing a story where you can have part of it in the Doctor's mind, it's a perfect excuse for bringing back the Dream Lord. I suspect that Moffat's not going to worry about the Time War, unless he wants to do something along the fringes of it.

  • March 6, 2012, 11:22 a.m. CST

    hornorsilk - agree with MOV - she's not mostly dead.

    by DoctorTom

    Even if she were still a little bit alive (other than in the computer), the Vashta Nerada would pick her bones clean. The question is whether she could regenerate from that, and if so does she just provide further snacks for the Vashta Nerada. Vashta #1: What did you think of this regeneration? Vashta #2: I don't know, it was too stringy last time. I hope she gets more meat on her bones for the next regeneration. She's not mostly dead, she's all dead, she's deceased, bereft of life she rests in peace. She's expired, she's joined the choir eternal. She wouldn't voom if you put 50 million volts through her. She is an ex-River.

  • March 6, 2012, 11:24 a.m. CST

    hornorsilk - bring River back out -- via the flesh

    by Mister Vertue

    Oh no, no, no. It's very important that River remains in the Library database. I'm pretty sure she's quite content there now, with the possibility of her contentment increasing in the future.

  • March 6, 2012, 11:28 a.m. CST

    actually MOV, she could be busy in the Library database now

    by DoctorTom

    I just posted a comment about that in the other Docback, tieing in with the possibility that a future River's actually responsible for the Silence. Oh no, we're crossing the streams - the two Docbacks are crosspollinating each other! If we see the projection of a third Docback show up here to chastise the two current Docbacks, I'm going to be very scared. Or very amused.

  • March 6, 2012, 11:31 a.m. CST

    I read something today that made me laugh a lot, part 2

    by Mister Vertue

    Somebody asked 'Don't you hate the pre-cold opening sequence featuring Amy Pond on the American broadcast?' Considering 'The Moff' wrote that very sequence just for the US tx, I don't think he'd 'hate' it, would he?

  • March 6, 2012, 11:37 a.m. CST

    The number selling toy this Christmas?

    by Mister Vertue

    A 'Klen' doll. If 'The Moff' is writing the 2012 Christmas episode right now (and I do believe he is), I'd be disappointed if this doesn't get mentioned...

  • March 6, 2012, 11:37 a.m. CST

    On Klen & Whotininnies

    by Ken Plume

    A live Whotininnies would be quite a thing. Would someone see such a thing at a convention? Like a DragonCon? What if there were Doctors there? What about that? What if I said *supposedly* even The Moff was asked to attend? Though I'm not entirely sure that those channels *actually* asked The Moff. Wouldn't it be nice if he did go to his first DragonCon, which happens to take place JUST as the new series is premiering. But who would actually want to come see Glen & I neener around? Besides those people who have raised their hands. And called me Shirley.

  • March 6, 2012, 11:41 a.m. CST

    Streams are definitely crossed now

    by DoctorTom

    We definitely have the three Docbacks now, since I put a mention in an earlier Docback (Caractuspotts can probably guess which one) - I'm designating that one the William Hartnell Docback for all of this. So, now we officially have Three Docbacks talking about the Three Doctors.

  • March 6, 2012, 11:43 a.m. CST

    The "Klen" Doll

    by Ken Plume

    Would never shut up, and would produce "fart noises" at the most inopportune times. An awkward holiday delight!

  • March 6, 2012, 11:44 a.m. CST

    Whotinninies, with interviews of Doctors? And maybe the Moff?

    by DoctorTom

    Wouldn't you need to hustle out a lot of episodes of Whotininnies before then so that it would be the 50th Whotininnies? (We'll even accept if it's some other anniversary divided by 5 - like the 35th. I think if you're doing one a week roughly that's about where you'd be by Dragoncon.

  • March 6, 2012, 11:45 a.m. CST

    BTW -

    by Ken Plume

    The "Klen" doll comes packaged with his trusty companion, A Blue Blob Called Steve.

  • March 6, 2012, 11:45 a.m. CST

    Does the Klen Doll come with a pullstring?

    by DoctorTom

    Several programmed phrases and fart noises programmed in.

  • March 6, 2012, 11:49 a.m. CST

    Of course...

    by Ken Plume

    The problem with a "Klen" doll is that the main selling point is every single one is made inherently defective. Oh, so accurately.

  • March 6, 2012, 11:50 a.m. CST

    The "Klen" Jingle...

    by Ken Plume

    He's both fat and skinny, short and tall! The best thing about Klen is he won't work at all!

  • It would be amusing, at least once.

  • March 6, 2012, 11:56 a.m. CST

    Doctortom - Recording a new Whotininnies?

    by Ken Plume

    Glen and I should really do that. We have so much to talk about. As for reaching 50 episodes? How about snackable Whotininnies, in bite-size time chunks? Would that be cheating? Are there rules to these things? I think not! (Are there? Now I'm worried I've been doing this podcast thing wrong for years. Don't send me to iJail.)

  • March 6, 2012, 12:10 p.m. CST

    River SPOILER

    by Himbo

    At first I was going to ask how much was hypo and how much was spoiler re 'killing River.' Took a minute to remember the Library. I think it is a testament to how vibrant Alex Kingston has made this character. Part of me would like a peek into the parrallel universe where River was played by Kate Winslet, but that's just cause I have a real thing about Winslet. Envisioning her in a spacesuit now. She'd still make a best-dressed list.

  • March 6, 2012, 12:42 p.m. CST

    Some Say that Omega is a Hero......

    by Afzal

  • March 6, 2012, 12:51 p.m. CST

    darfurontherockz - true

    by DoctorTom

    some of the fiction in the 90's liked to put forth the theory that Rassilon engineered Omega's getting stuck in the singularity. Certainly, some of the Time Lords saw Omega as a hero (or he wouldn't have had anyone helping him cross the dimensions in Arc of Infinity). If he comes back, it might be nice to see that played up. I suspect, though, if he comes back he might still be mad at the Time Lords for shoving him down the hole, and it would be interesting to see how he reacts to finding out the Doctor already killed them all.

  • March 6, 2012, 1:28 p.m. CST

    The Klen dolls...

    by Merrick

    ...are on the endcap next to the Moffle Makers.

  • it even SOUNDS like a title for a story in a 60's Doctor Who Annual!

  • March 6, 2012, 3:12 p.m. CST

    Why previous Doctors could appear older

    by CartoonScott

    There is an easy solution to this. Doctor Who has already established there are alternative universities, so you could have doctors from parallel universities where they were still surviving as previous incarnations, where in their universe they were never fecked over by Bernard in the chamber or Rose dicking around with the Tardis, maybe McCoys Doctor dodged the bullets and so on

  • March 6, 2012, 3:47 p.m. CST

    Oh no Doctom, that's not Docback Hartnell. It's -

    by veteran_of_mu

    Docback Omega. Omega meaning ~last~ after all. It's also clearly in an anti-universe because it violates most of the rules.

  • The 90 minute Special is most likely to happen. But, I hope, somehow, Paul McGann's Doctor returns. I liked the 1996 tv movie, (Yes, I know 99% of Who fans hate it.) and, I liked the way he protrayed the Doctor. Hey, I would like to see his regenertion, which some fans guess happened because of the Time War.

  • March 6, 2012, 3:56 p.m. CST

    Caractuspotts, I concede your point

    by DoctorTom

    that would definitely be Docback Omega, now that I look at it in hindsight. Which still makes it an appropriate place to have mentioned The Three Doctors. I suppose someone could go find the Docback on An Unearthly Child and post there to bring a true Hartnell Docback into the discussion. I thought you'd be amused to see it pop up in that thread, though.

  • March 7, 2012, 3:15 a.m. CST

    So... is that where we'll see Amy and Rory wind up?

    by V'Shael

    As data ghosts with River in the library? Would certainly explain why their story would be *finished*.

  • March 7, 2012, 5 a.m. CST

    @v'shael I think we already saw that happen.

    by veteran_of_mu

    The little house with Rory's red jag outside. All they need to show is River waiting inside with the kettle boiled and a couple of Daves around to tea.

  • March 7, 2012, 7:10 a.m. CST

    axcel1

    by gotilk

    I loved the McGann movie too. I just didn't appreciate Roberts' Master played like a dinner theater melodrama villain.

  • I think he watched "The Keeper Of Traken" one too many times and went a little over-the-top as the Master. (Wouldn't it be funny if they brought back both McGann and Roberts in the 50th anniversary special? Yes, I know, "funny" is not the right word for it.)

  • March 7, 2012, 8:28 a.m. CST

    gotilk - the thing to remember about Roberts' Master

    by DoctorTom

    some of the most ott stuff was after he threw on that costume to drezzzzz for the occasion. And that costume? He got that from the Doctor's wardrobe. So, the Doctor had that around to wear for some reason (for some reason, I could see Colin Baker going with that look - it would have been preferable). He might have just let everything go ott once he figured he and the Doctor were effectively alone (since Grace was mindcontrolled at the time).

  • March 7, 2012, 12:49 p.m. CST

    Never been to a Drafthouse showing...

    by Austin

    I have a four (almost five)-year-old who would probably love this. "The Green Death" is one of his favorite Netflix things. Would he be welcome here?

  • March 7, 2012, 4:10 p.m. CST

    Playing the Master (or any non-Doctor timelord)

    by Dreamfasting

    A timelord can be radically different in appearance and manerism from regeneration to regeneration, but dramatically, I feel you need there to be some elemental traits that remain consistent across all incarnations. The Doctor gets away with more diversity because he's already the focal point of the whole story - we have a long time to watch him and build up the notion that this is, on some level, the same person. The Master or other recurring timelord doesn't have that window - they need an id-hook. Going from Roger Delgado to Anthony Ainley, there was a large change in personality but the villainous black beard provided a little visual anchor. Eric Roberts was a similar change in temperment, but he simply had no anchor to wink to the audience that he was the same Master, to own that legacy. So his villany comes off seeming random and disconnected. Derek Jacobi sold his short performance with his eyes, along with a well timed faint audio clip in the background. It was a brilliantly constructed moment. To me, John Simm fell prey to the same problems as Eric Roberts - if I hadn't seen him regenerate, there's nothing to say to the audience "yes, this is the same villain". Whether it's the beard, a tissue compression eliminator or a pillar-shaped-Tardis, there need to be hooks. I liked the tatoo-of-the-Corsair speech in the Doctor's Wife, because that's exactly the sort of "constant" that I think the audience needs when presented with a recurring time lord.

  • March 7, 2012, 4:55 p.m. CST

    JOhn Simm didn't need the beard

    by DoctorTom

    well, he had a wife...

  • According to this month's Doctor Who Magazine (in the U.K., so don't go looking for it in the U.S. right now), Browder—who played lost astronaut John Crichton on four seasons of Farscape and Lt. Col. Cameron Mitchell on two seasons of Stargate SG-1—has apparently been tapped to appear in the third episode of Doctor Who's seventh season. The episode, written by Being Human creator and frequent Who contributor Toby Whithouse ("School Reunion," "The Vampires of Venice," "The God Complex"), will be set in the Wild Wild West, with filming to actually take place in Madrid, Spain. According to Doctor Who TV, all three of the main cast—Matt Smith, Karen Gillan and Arthur Darvill—were just spotted arriving there yesterday.

  • I mean, a) We have Ben Browder, from "Farscape" and "Stargate SG1", YES!!!!!!!!!!!!! b) We have Toby Whithouse. (That's a good thing, right?) c) It's set in the Wild Wild West, with filming in Spain, what's this, like, the third time Who has filmed there? And, d) We have The Terrific Trio, Smth, Gillian, and, Darvill. Any questions? I thought not!

  • March 7, 2012, 6:40 p.m. CST

    What the hell is this going to look like on a big screen?

    by melonman

    Bring on THE FOUR DOCTORS next dudes!

  • March 7, 2012, 7:12 p.m. CST

    The part that is not awesome is...

    by Perigee

    Third episode of the season is supposed to be the last of the trio, isn't it? (The train tonight - The Girl Who Waited. I am So going to miss those guys. It's criminal to get rid of them... and Wow. Respect for the Grand Moff increases - in retrospect, an Incredible season. Only one old boot in the group so far.)

  • That was not part of my AWESOME list. And, you are also right about it being criminal that they are leaving. They better not die!!!!

  • Sooo... ...Okeybye. ~Grin~ (Canton Canton Canton Canton, Canton iki-I-po...)

  • March 8, 2012, 7:30 a.m. CST

    Heh. A fun Canton fact...

    by Perigee

    Canton Delaware was installed by Richard Nixon as the first Director of America's MIB black ops program; Yankee Torchwood. There was something about the uniforms he really liked for some reason, but he couldn't quite remember why...

  • March 8, 2012, 8:59 a.m. CST

    It wouldn't be Torchwood though, perigee

    by DoctorTom

    Americans wouldn't take the name for a secret British organization and use it for a secret quasi-governmental US group. They wouldn't want confusion about the two different groups that way (especially given that the Cardiff group liked having Torchwood stamped on their vehicles, and I suspect that they had liked doing that for quite some time, the Americans wouldn't want to be mistaken for such a public secret organization). Also, in 1969 Torchwood was still for the secret maintaining of the British Queen and Olde England - America wouldn't have those priorities. More likely it could be Canton reassigned to Majestic 12.

  • Then we could have the title The Good, the Bad and the Chumblie. (You know, deep down, you'd howl with delight if they did something like that.)

  • Maybe, they'll get right this time. First, they have Ben Browder, who is american and maybe they will use local actors. Second, they are filming in Spain, didn't Sergio Leone film all his westerns there in the 60s and 70s? Yes, he did. And, third, we have The Doctor, Amy, and Rory, who could ask for anything more? I'm 100% sure this will make up for "The Gunfighters".

  • March 8, 2012, 4:07 p.m. CST

    Axce1 - one other thing

    by DoctorTom

    Actually, we can ask for something more than the Doctor, Amy and Rory, but I expect that we'll get it. Know how you kept seeing ponchos all the time in the spaghetti westerns? We might get the return of the Perruvian folk band look this episode.

  • About "the Perruvian folk band look", if they try for the spaghetti western look, we should get the ponchos, they were standard issue for those westerns.

  • March 8, 2012, 4:38 p.m. CST

    oops, sorry Axcel1, somehow I missed the l in your name

    by DoctorTom

    must have been trying to type it out faster than my fingers could handle. But, I make up for it by giving Peruvian an extra r. Oy vey, must be getting late in the day.

  • March 8, 2012, 4:43 p.m. CST

    Maybe this is Where they get the Peruvian Folk Band Ponchos

    by Perigee

    I've never understood the whole time-inside-the-TARDIS thing anyway. Why not farm out the inside when it's empty? So the inside of the TARDIS has its own linear timestream that is shared across all the rest. Hartnell gets out, Smith goes in, Smith goes out, Baker gets in, Baker gets out, Hartnell gets back in.

  • March 8, 2012, 4:54 p.m. CST

    It might not be a linear timestream inside.

    by DoctorTom

    Notice how Sylvester McCoy seemed to be acting on future knowlege? He might have been sticking around and peeking in on future regenerations, and talking with Sexy about his future.

  • I was just thinking how if Doctor Who was still on its old schedule, we would be watching it in 3 weeks. In words of another doctor, Doctor Smith, from "Lost In Space", oh, the pain, the pain!!

  • March 8, 2012, 6:01 p.m. CST

    axcel1

    by gotilk

    That IS cool news about Browder being on. Awesome.

  • March 8, 2012, 7:22 p.m. CST

    ACE is on the cover of Doctor Who magazine!

    by gotilk

    Great cover, too. Wish I could head to the news-stand or book store and grab it. Actually, I think Borders used to carry the import. Barnes and Noble... probably not. Someone I subscribe to on YouTube got his wires crossed and freaked me out for about 2 minutes when he announced that ACE would be returning as the new series 7 companion. Not true. That freaked my crap out for a while.

  • I never completely got Barney from "How I Met Your Mother" saying that until now!!! IT'S AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • March 8, 2012, 7:44 p.m. CST

    gotilk, in what way??????????????????????????????

    by axcel1

    Keep in mind, Browder on Who is Awesome, Ace returning, awesome, maybe.

  • March 8, 2012, 9:56 p.m. CST

    Rory IS Darrin Stevens (a WHAT)

    by veteran_of_mu

    Sorry, just flashed on the late 50s/early 60s American sitcom, My Mother The Car and thought of the Doc and Sexy. Funny how many of those old sitcoms are actually science fiction in disguise. Another good example is Bewitched. It's just Doctor Who without the TARDIS. Oh, and with a lot of martinis and neuroses. Hmm. Now that's a DW I'd like to see. To H-E-Double-Hockey-Sticks with Nixon - have the Doc do battle with Endora! So then I thought ... you don't suppose the Rory's real identity could be ... Darrin Stevens? You have to admit, that would explain an awful lot of things ... What the hell am I talking about? This is what happens when DW goes on hiatus for 9 Months!

  • I just heard about a rumor going around the internet, about a possible Doctor Who Easter Special. Does anybody know if it might happen? (I already heard that there's a 99% chance that it's false, but, like the man in the above post said, 9 months is a long time to wait for Who, they could at least throw us a bone.)

  • March 9, 2012, 2:30 a.m. CST

    axcel1

    by gotilk

    Someone I subscribe to on YouTube (a long time ago I subbed almost any Who fan I could find on YouTube) wrongly assumed that Ace would be returning. He was just reading it incorrectly. He said series 7 companion instead of 7th Doctor's companion. I think it was just a slip of the tongue.

  • March 9, 2012, 4:32 a.m. CST

    caractacuspotts

    by gotilk

    Yeah this hiatus is a little long. Pretty soon we'll be imagining switches on the TARDIS console in different positions between shots and lending it gravitas. Oh wait, we probably already have.

  • Okay Gotilk, I know a gauntlet when it slaps me in the moosh. You got another interpretation of the events of TGWW than HAT #749 and its prequels, I think here in the lull is a fine time to explore it. For those coming in late, I'll copy in the jist of the HAT. It's all about freeze-framing The Girl Who Waited: ---- After Amy loses her phone and the Doc tells her where it is [hmm] Amy winds up going with the red waterfall room. No doubt because of her hair. Doc presses the green button on the time lens which goes "squeee ..." and the GREEN button is lit. Amy's image appears and they converse. Image shudders a bit possibly due to what the Doc is doing with his sonic. Amy panics thinking she will lose contact. Then you don't see the Doc's hands so you don't know what he's doing. But Amy speeds up dramatically. Theres's some sleight of hand-bot (get it?) and the next time you see the buttons the RED one is lit. The Doc presses it [again] and Amy slows down again. Doc says, "It's okay I've got you you're fine" and brandishes the Sonic. Then there's more interference and some screaming and the titles. Then Amy appears to be waiting for the interference to go away. The Doc says "gotcha" and stops sonicing. Voila, clear picture. Doc says he "stabilised" it. GREEN button is glowing again the entire time they talk. The Doc removes the time lens and runs into the TARDIS with it, his fingers ON THE BUTTONS. No lights are showing on the Lens until it is plugged in, but there is a digital clock we've never seen before prominently flicking through numbers very quickly indeed. And an old magtape rolling. Recording or playing? Could the time lens be as simple as ... RED means record and GREEN means playback? When the lights on the lens buttons return after the sparks they are prominently RED. Doc tells Rory he can't go into 2 Streams because Chen7 will kill him "With No Regeneration". Yet another poison that kills the Doc without regeneration? Double Hmm. When the Doc was rummaging for specs in his toolbox he touches a curious belt with studs and wires, then sets it aside as he hands the Rorycam to Rory. Camera returns to the digital clock flicking very quickly through numbers ... Amy interacts with Appleappuchia. When the scene returns to the TARDIS we're watching the digital clock zooming again ... no question the Doc knows how fast time is passing through the lens. And he's laughing! Rory exits the TARDIS carrying the time lens attached to the aforementioned leather strap. Presumably the wires in the strap power the lens because you can see by its reflection on its leather sleeve that the RED light is still glowing. Amy at the gateway. When she steps out into the garden we have a Dream-Lord birdsong queue ... Milfamy saves Rory from a hand-bot. RED light is still lit. Rory checks out Milfamy's goods and remarks that she looks great. She repeats the Doc's line from when Rory was checking out the statue, "Eyes front soldier". Rory holds up the time lens to read Amy's lipstick writing. It's still RED. Dialog with the Doctor and Amy. Then another shot of the old magtape rolling in the TARDIS. Then a shot of the younger Amy crying. Doc says he can hear her. Then Rory can see her through the time lens and the button on the lens has turned prominently and unmistakably GREEN! It's playing back - just like in Blink! Doc's magtape must have recorded every moment of the 36 years, 3 months, 4 days! He knew EXACTLY what he was doing - this is all intentional. Rory asks Milfamy to help. She refuses. Time Lens button is RED again. Rory holds up the time lens and, swelp me, presses the buttons. "Look me in the face and say it now". Lens button turns from RED to GREEN and young Amy converses with Milfamy. Amy declares she's going to pull time apart for Rory. Scene cuts back to Doc in the TARDIS. He's hovering over the magtape recorder which is still spinning. HE HAS IT HOOKED UP TO THE TIME ROTOR WITH WIRES. Rory's carrying the Time Lens again and it's RED again. We see young Amy through the Lens which is GREEN again. The Doc has Rory sonic Amy's sonic to "double our power". Gobbledygook or significant? What power do Sonics have in this situation? Doc has Rory jigger the time regulator. BLUE into the RED, GREEN into the BLUE, leave the RED hanging, don't touch anything YELLOW. Could it be that this manipulation is the point of the entire adventure? Rory throws lever 3 and both the Time Lens and the magtape explode in sparks. Rory and his 2 wives make their way to the gallery. Rory asks if they can just teleport in. Milfamy says, "it's not a teleport, it's a time jump". Amy objects, "you can't jump within the same time stream". Milfamy looks startled that Amy knows this and says, "Yes". Amy smiles as if this is some kind of relevant response. That is the very definition of timey-wimey. Milfamy asks Rory how many games of doctors and nurses they've played. Now that's Amy ... playing as a doctor? Triple Hmmm ...

  • March 9, 2012, 5:59 a.m. CST

    And now, revisiting HAT #749 - the Ultimate Weapon

    by veteran_of_mu

    You'll probably want to have reviewed TGWW in freeze frame with the above notes by your side to get ready for this one ... Let's assume, for the sake of half an arse, that I'm right about the magtape, the clock and the buttons. You go freeze frame for yourself to see if you agree. The questions is, what does it all mean? ---- The Doc is going to a lot of trouble to get Rory to manipulate the time regulator. Why? It so happens that in addition to translating ancient Chinese texts, I have spent quite a lot of years working professionally as ... a programmer. We old programmers used to do a lot of manipulating of time streams. Well, we called them text streams, but they're much the same thing. Causality is important and we learned to respect it the hard way. We would have programs that generated these streams and other programs that stored them and others that duplicated and redirected and interpreted them. And we'd bolt all these streams and programs together with things we called pipes and filters. We could even pipe a stream to a device. And one of the most cute devices you could pipe a stream to was called /dev/null. The null device that simply throws the contents of the stream away. ~Leave the RED loose ...~ I think the Doc has just ruthlessly used Amy and Rory to construct a temporal disintegrator. BLUE [Doc's tape device] into RED, GREEN into BLUE, leave the RED loose. That means anyone who lands in young Amy's original Green stream is going to get piped directly to the loose end - into /dev/null. No Appleappuchia, no hand-bots, just gone and never existed at all. Remember the Doc at the start of the episode using the Sonic to lock on to Amy's time stream. That small act of vandalism that triggers the small-act-of-vandalism alarm. When the Doc attaches the time lens to the TARDIS console he says it is locked on to Amy's stream ~PERMANENTLY~. So ... now this is a weapon. It doesn't kill people. It sends them to the green stream that pipes them directly into /dev/null. It makes them didn't happen. To use it you need only deliver them to the green end of the pipe. Which is why the Doc no longer needs the time lens or the magtape - both of which exploded when Rory activated the time regulator. Because the Doc has the temporal coordinates of the green end of this pipe stored in his sonic. And I bet when he uses it that way the GREEN Sonic turns RED just like the pretty lights on the lens. This Red Setting is the Doc's Ultimate Weapon. Well, perhaps penultimate - his brain is his ultimate weapon.

  • March 9, 2012, 6:31 a.m. CST

    And while I'm revisiting ...

    by veteran_of_mu

    I came across this speculation of mine on the plot of LKH before the broadcast of LKH. And I have to say I really rather wish they'd done this: ---- Doc lands in Nazi Germany. Walks out of the TARDIS, looks around, and sighs. Marches back into the TARDIS. Mels is still shaking her wrist from where the Doc knocked the gun out of her hand with a Venusian karate chop. ~Well?~ she says. ~Well?~ says Amy, ~Aren't you going to go out and do something about that lot?~ Grim-faced the Doc bangs the doors, presses buttons, pushes levers. TARDIS starts and stops. He throws open the doors and walks out into ... WW1 trenches. Body parts in every direction. Doc motions his companions out. A bomb whistles overhead and the gloom is lit by an explosion. Clouds of mustard gas roll by not far enough away. ~All right, you lot~ says the Doc, ~you pick. Find me the people here whose lives made the Nazis happen. Because I've tried over and over and over. You think the Nazis originally started with a one-balled house painter? Think how ridiculous that is! As far as I can tell the Nazis were the end product of centuries of inhumane child-rearing practices. Hitler was just one of thousands of abused children vying to rule his generation. So, go ahead, you pick out their parents. They're RIGHT HERE! And I can't pick 'em out.~ Amy pipes up. ~Can't you find them with the screwdriver?~ Doc shakes his head, furious. Mels says, ~One of the scanners in the blue box?~ Doc ignores her. Rory says, ~Maybe if we went back further - fixed the problem before it starts -~ Doc explodes. ~What do you think I've been doing with my life? All the suffering, all that violence and waste, all the children screaming 0 all of it - as far as I can tell, just bloody well has to happen. It's not some fixed point in time. It's the process. Civilization - which my mate Winston says is the regulation of society by the opinions of civilians - has to evolve. And evolution means death. The terrible, horrible death of all these millions so that just a few civilized sausages like you three - well, I think like you three, who can tell - can stand up on their hind legs and act like people.~ Rory says, ~Oh. All right then.~ Amy says, ~Who's for tea?~ ---- That's the beauty of the dockback. We don't just watch Steven Moffatt's DW. We watch each-others' DWs. And sometimes, I think, we get some things in mind that poor old SM misses out on. Or can't film because, hey, it's a kid's show. Anyway ...

  • March 9, 2012, 7:16 a.m. CST

    caractacuspotts - does that make The Doctor Uncle Arthur?

    by Perigee

    The Titan of Tricks? The Highness of Hijinks? The Prince of Pranks? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTXEnCc-pco It fits... OK - now comes the really scary, nerdy bit... On Bewitched, the witches were apparently incapable of retaliating against warlocks; As often as Endora assaulted Darrin, Arthur screwed with Endora without fear of retaliation.

  • March 9, 2012, 8:37 a.m. CST

    gotilk - Barnes and Noble

    by DoctorTom

    I've seen Doctor Who magazine in some different Barnes & Noble stores. Sometimes I think they've even had them a few weeks before Diamond distributes them to the comic shops in the US. It still has to make it over from England, though, so there will be some delay.

  • March 9, 2012, 8:43 a.m. CST

    Caractuspotts - Endora is the Rani

    by DoctorTom

    and, using your earlier HAT, Rory must be the Master, since if he's Darren Stevens, they had Darren regenerate between seasons when they got a different actor to play him.

  • March 9, 2012, 8:44 a.m. CST

    axcel1 - it's barely possible

    by DoctorTom

    but if they do have an Easter Special, I wouldn't expect a long episode. If anything I would expect a short TARDIS-bound story like Time/Space or one of the Night and the Doctor sketches. I don't know what show they'd put it on, though.

  • March 9, 2012, 9:10 a.m. CST

    Doc York -> Doc Sargeant

    by veteran_of_mu

    Not mention ... Doctor Bombay! And I have to say, speaking as a child of the sixties, until I looked at perigee's clip I never realised how smoking hot Elizabeth Montgomery really was. Wow.

  • March 9, 2012, 9:18 a.m. CST

    HAT 749

    by DoctorTom

    Why is the Doctor trying to get Rory to manipulate the time regulator? Because when he does, Rory's original badge (not the one we had the closeup of) will have the date change on the badge to 1990. Then, at some point in the future there will be some reason for Rory to go back and swap badges (or take the place of his younger self at that particular time for some reason)

  • March 9, 2012, 9:22 a.m. CST

    If Rory is Darren Stevens -

    by DoctorTom

    then that makes River Song Tabitha.... .... it all fits!

  • March 9, 2012, 3:17 p.m. CST

    What kind of a name is Tabitha anyway?

    by veteran_of_mu

    Can only come from the Gamma Forests!

  • Like I said, it was a rumor, and, there was a 99% chance that it was false. It would have been nice, giving us an Easter Special with Who moving to the later part of the year.

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