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AICN COMICS REVIEWS: NO PLACE LIKE HOME! I, VAMPIRE! AVENGERS! & MORE!

Issue #49 Release Date: 2/22/12 Vol.#10
The Pull List
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I, VAMPIRE #6/JUSTICE LEAGUE DARK #6
NO PLACE LIKE HOME #1
AVENGERS #22
CHEW #24
THE THIRTY SIX #3
NO PLACE LIKE HOME #1


JUSTICE LEAGUE DARK #6

Writer: Peter Milligan
Artist: Mikel Janin

I, VAMPIRE #6

Writer: Joshua Fialkov
Artist: Andrea Sorrentino
Publisher: DC Comics
Reviewer: Optimous Douche


If you’re like me and only enjoy light meat when it comes to turkey, I invite you to step inside the wings and thighs of DC’s dark meat offerings I, VAMPIRE and JUSTICE LEAGUE DARK. Both of these titles, along with ANIMAL MAN and SWAMP THING, represent the horror side of the New 52, where we forsake science mumbo jumbo in place of…well, mystical and spiritual mumbo jumbo, but it is different, damn it.

This is probably one of the worst places to start a review for either title since as formula is proving all arcs end with issue 6, but these are the most recent books and they are set on a collision course into one of the New 52’s first cross-over events, “Rise of the Vampires.”

I had concerns about both of these titles in the beginning with I, VAMPIRE sucking up most of my internal consternation. I understood why DC was going here; vampires are still a hot commodity despite the mass saturation into pop culture and subsequent mass cynicism in recent years. My concern related directly to how they were going to integrate mythical characters that are as powerful, if not more so, than any spandex schmuck to slap on a cod piece and emblazon an emblem on their chest. Masterfully, DC kept the two forces of greatness separate and directly pointed out the white elephant wearing the S emblem in the room. The vampires were basically the top dog on the food chain until five years ago and their concerns about this “new” crop of heroes has them more nervous than being invited into the garlic saturated kitchen vapors of Bucca di Beppo. Also, Fialkov took a myopic approach with this book, focusing on the romantic longing between ex-lovers and archrivals Mary and Andrew. Smartly, DC editorial made their world self-contained with only a hint of reference to the ever-changing universe around them. Up until issue 6, I, VAMPIRE has been an exercise in fighting the temptation to love that which we know will destroy us. It’s a great story and even the recent influx of Batman last issue did not taint that basic story structure.

The inclusion of JUSTICE LEAGUE DARK to the New 52 lineup concerned me on two fronts: one, do we actually need another JUSTICE LEAGUE, and two, could a team fueled solely by magic offer the kind of “will they, won’t they” escape drama that is a prerequisite for serial-based storytelling? In the past magic was always the golden parachute. “The Master of Evil has defeated Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman. What do we do?” “Quick, we better call in Zatanna to speak backwards.” Basically, in the past magic was a crutch rather than a deep exploration of the dark arts. Where JUSTICE LEAGUE DARK first won me over is that it’s simply better than the other team books. Sure, if you like big shiny objects like a cooing toddler, then JUSTICE LEAGUE proper might keep you happy. Personally, I need more depth and less quips from the title. Sure it’s fun, but it ain’t earth shattering. JUSTICE LEAGUE INTERNATIONAL, the one nostalgia had me most excited for, turned into an absolute train wreck. The jokes are bad, the threats are lame, and as much as I love the bastard, Booster Gold is a contrivance of the 80s. Greed is no longer good and neither is Booster without his usual supporting cast. Where JUSTICE LEAGUE DARK won me over was less the magic and more the crazy nut-jobs wielding that magic. The first arc was not without fault; there were times during the hunt to thwart Enchantress that I’ll fully admit required a second and third reading for true understanding. But the virtues far outweighed the fallacies. Madame Xanadu, Shade, Deadman, John Constantine and Zatanna’s mixed bag of emotional turmoil and desire to be left the hell alone offers a schadenfreude level of joy akin to the mixed bag of personalities thrown together during the JUSTICE LEAGUE INTERNATIONAL from the 80s. This latest issue left behind the nonsense with Enchantress and basically told this team you better stick together…or die. I’m perfectly OK with destiny and Madame Xanadu’s prognostications being the driving force behind bringing a team together. It feels more natural and original than current driving forces in other Justice Leagues of Bad Guy X attacks earth or past recruitments that were akin to kids swapping baseball cards (No, Mr. Robinson, I have not forgotten).

So now we see the two titles collide: Andrew the stalwart Vampire is seeking to eradicate Mary’s ambitions to vamp the whole world and it looks like JUSTICE LEAGUE DARK will be throwing him a big assist. I think this will bode well for JLD since it will give them a tangible legion of baddies to tussle with. As for I, VAMPIRE, we’ll have to see; I can only hope that the intimacy of the first arc will still carry through once I, VAMPIRE is thrown into the bright light of the larger New 52.

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NO PLACE LIKE HOME #1

Writer: Angelo Tirotto
Artist: Richard Jordan
Publisher: Image Comics
Reviewer: Johnny Destructo


Boobs.

Honestly, that's what grabbed my attention. I hate to be a stereotype, because I pride myself on being anything but; however...yeah. Boobs. That say "Surrender". Then...oh, it's called "No Place Like Home". Must be a retelling of Wizard of Oz, but with boobs. Sigh. I've already seen one episode of the television series “Grimm”, and several unfortunate episodes of the series “Ever After”. On top of that, I've been subjected to the absolutely awful “Tin Man”, wherein Zooey Deschanel's huge eyes portray a modern version of Dorothy (named Dee Gee) and travels to a place just like Oz (or Outer Zone), but everything has an ironic or "cool" name twist. Ugh. Just awful.

But hey, the boob-I mean the cover looks pretty cool. Beautifully painted, and there's something about it. The way her eyes are staring directly into yours, and she's wearing something that could either be a smile or a snarl, but you can't quite figure out which. But hey, it's probably a different, less talented artist doing the interiors..oh, lookit that! The same artist is actually responsible for the interiors!

With that, I decided I would give it a try.

Yep, sure enough, it's a new take on the OZ story, but if the book's title wasn't so obvious, I'm not sure I would have picked it up. Yes some of the elements are there: a twister, a main character named Dee, a cute little puppy (ugh, the town is called Emeraldsville) but everything else screams horror movie. The girl returns home due to a tragedy, she hangs out with girlfriends who are clearly less moral (and will therefore die), there's a town secret that all the elders know about and hell, there's even the town drunk, paper-bag-booze and all, screaming prophetic DOOM up and down the street. This is the beginning to a potentially great horror story.

I should also mention that while her chesticles are what initially grabbed my attention, like any quality female, there was actual substance. On one hand, I think to myself "Darlin', you are a quality story with a solid head on your shoulders. You're smart, you're strong-willed and you know what you want...you shouldn't have to stoop to showing me your cleavage on the cover. Have some self-respect.” Then, on the other hand...it worked. So who am I to judge?

Speaking of the cover, the artist is not shy with a brush or the ink on it, and this book feels dark even in the light. Richard Jordan has a Steve Pugh style, but much prettier. His women are actually attractive, which is nice. I don't know why I haven't seen his work up until now, but I can't wait to see more of it.

This book was just screaming for me to read it and it didn't disappoint. It's got mystery, gore, punk rock girls and an actual story. As this is Volume One, I'm hoping that this is going to be an ongoing series, because if it maintains the quality of the first issue, I have a great reading experience ahead of me. And so do you--go out and buy this already!

JD can be found hosting the PopTards Podcast, drawing a weekly webcomic, discussing movies, comics and other flimflam over at www.poptardsgo.com, graphically designing/illustrating for a living, and Booking his Face off over here. Follow his twitter @poptardsgo. His talkback name is PopTard_JD. He is also now co-hosting another Comic Book discussion show on Party934.com alongside Bohdi Zen. They discuss comics and play music, check it out live every Saturday from 4-5pm.


AVENGERS #22

Writer: Brian Michael Bendis
Art: Renato Guedes
Publisher: Marvel Comics
Reviewer: Henry Higgins is My Homeboy


Also, Vision is in this issue. I don’t actually care about Vision, so this is his only mention.

With Brian Michael Bendis soon leaving AVENGERS, it makes sense to send his run off in style, and bringing back Norman should lay the groundwork for that. After last issue, the Avengers are being systematically taken down one by one, and here...well, the Avengers are systematically taken down one by one. While it is enjoyable to read, it feels more or less like the same issue we read last time.

Writing: (3/5) With many of the Avengers already out of play, much of the issue is spent doing the typical super villain thing of discussing one’s plans with the hero. And after the first time, it begins to slow the pace of the issue down.

If any of them should be here, it’s Iron Man. I maintain that DARK REIGN, DARK AVENGERS, SIEGE--it all hinges on the idea that Norman Osborn has become less of a Spider-Man rogue and more of the villainous answer to Tony Stark. The showmanship, the ability to draw a crowd (there’s a reason it’s always Tony and Norman who are speaking to the press)--the two go about problems with the same method. They both even utilize the same sort of plan to remove the other from the board: trip the armour, the man will fall. The lab scene with Norman’s science team speaking to Iron Man is funny without being indulgent, exciting without relying too much on foreshadowing, and threatening enough to make us wonder how exactly Iron Man will get out of “new threat”. Whereas Red Hulk and Captain America’s escapes are obvious (rampage, and rampage, I’m guessing), I’m actually invested in seeing Iron Man’s daring escape.

With everyone else, it’s a little too on the nose. We’ve seen Captain America strapped to a chair before. In fact, I think I’ve read two other series in the last month that feature that. The conversation between him and Madam Hydra is very cliché, if still well written. The Red Hulk and Spider-Woman scenes are also very prototypical confrontations, and really aren’t that inventive. They’re not badly written; it’s just more of the same.

Quake’s scene, though, is great. It’s nice to see that SECRET WARRIORS isn’t forgotten (because I loved that series oh so much), and it does give the issue some much needed action. I like that she seems to be taking the role formally held by Wolverine in the Avengers (another early Bendis scene, where Iron Man and Captain America discuss having someone a bit darker in the line up), and I like that she seems to be effective in that role.

Intercut between all the action is President Obama discussing with his cabinet the ramifications of Norman’s assault. These scenes drag on, but do manage to show an always-interesting facet of superhero universes: how a more realistic political setting would respond to such an incident. It’s engaging, but does prove a little slow.

Art: (3/5) Guedes does a solid job here; nothing remarkable but nothing particularly bad. The Madam Hydra scene with Steve is the best example of his work throughout the issue. At times, it’s rather good. At others, they seem to have wildly different faces that just look weird. Keith is a good colourist, but doesn’t get much time to do anything here. The issue, more than anything, just doesn’t have remarkable art.

Best Bit: I really did like Tony’s scene.

Worst Bit: Spider-Woman. I like her a fair deal, but she doesn’t really do anything here.

Overall: (3/5) More of the same. While that does mean more good superhero work, it just feels like I’ve read it before.


CHEW #24

Writer: John Layman
Artist: Rob Guillory
Publisher: Image Comics
Reviewer: Humphrey Lee


CHEW was a book I fell in love with for one simple reason: bugfuck insanity. Well, more like instances of bugfuck insanity that occur in a world that very much lives in a perpetual state of quirk. For (roughly) two years now Layman and Guillory have been building this world brick by brick, quirk by quirk, with those BF moments as the mortar bringing it together. And on this, might as well call it an Anniversary Issue, I think the book as a whole is really gelling.

The last line above, I admit, is a bit misleading toward what this title is doing that it is just now coming together. Since the inception of this book the Lay & Guillory Connection have been introducing more and more concepts on top of the idea of the Cibopath, more characters to develop and play their own roles, and more bugfuckery. All of these things have been giving the book as a whole the kind of momentum you like a longer running indie/creator owned title to sport, but some pretty out of nowhere status quo shake ups I have felt somewhat detoured that momentum. So now I really feel that all these characters and abilities and shadowy organizations and whatnot have really started coming to fruition and CHEW is as great as it has ever been.

Right now I feel the book is about cycles. Our lead, Tony Chu, has hit such a shitty cycle in his life he’s barely in this book. He’s gone from mid-grade detective, to a member of the government’s most powerful agency, to now being a traffic cop that is currently captured and being fed dead baseball players. Meanwhile his old, machination-filled FDA partner is doing important work from the shadows while trying to lure his daughter, Olive, who may have Cibopathic abilities greater than his, into the mix as part of another cycle. It’s really moving characters around and putting everyone into new roles that will undoubtedly lead to conflict – and by “conflict” I mean ooey gooey violence and gore – and solidify where this book is going even more.

Oh, and I didn’t mention the part about the guy who has the power to carve things out of chocolate and have them be just as effective as if they were made out of real parts and pieces. Yeah, he cut a guy in half with a chocolate katana and made a chocolate death ray. That is the kind writing that sets this book apart from the rest. Sometimes I may feel the occasional issue leans more on those aspects in a way that takes away from thread development, but then I tell myself that I’m an idiot and that death rays made of chocolate are amazing. They’re even more amazing considering how Rob Guillory depicts them, which is the second great taste of two that taste great together--unlike that punny line, which is probably a good place to hop off this praise train. CHEW: It’s still awesome so buy it.

Humphrey Lee has been an avid comic book reader going on fifteen years now and a contributor to Ain't It Cool comics for quite a few as well. In fact, reading comics is about all he does in his free time and where all the money from his day job wages goes to - funding his comic book habit so he can talk about them to you, our loyal readers (lucky you). He's a bit of a social networking whore, so you can find him all over the Interwebs on sites like Twitter, The MySpaces, Facebookand a blog where he also mostly talks about comics with his free time because he hasn't the slightest semblance of a life. Sad but true, and he gladly encourages you to add, read, and comment as you will.


THE THIRTY SIX #3

Writer: Kristopher White
Artist: George Zapata
Publisher: Fossil Creek Productions
Reviewer: BottleImp


You know, despite the amazingly intricate web of technology that exists here in the 21st Century, I often find myself falling into the trap of never looking further than the local comics shop for new and interesting reading material. That’s where being one of the @$$holes really pays off—every once in a while, Ambush Bug shares some independently created graphic storytelling gems that can be as invigorating as a clean spring breeze after the stale, musty air of too many Marvels, DCs or Images. One such bright spot is the mystical adventure series THE THIRTY SIX.

At the core of the series is a familiar theme. A group of individuals, blessed (or cursed) by special abilities, are drawn together in a time of trouble (by chance or by fate—depending on your opinion) in order that they might join together to save the world from evil. Ringing any bells? It’s your standard Hero’s Journey; the same thread runs through such classics as the myth of Jason and the Argonauts, the legend of King Arthur, Tolkien’s “Lord of the Rings” and, of course, the “Star Wars” trilogy. Now, I don’t want you to think that I’m belittling THE THIRTY SIX by making it just another in a long line of similarly-themed works--in fact, the great thing about this comic following such an established, mythic path is that the core simplicity of the theme allows for a wide variety of creative embellishments. I’ve seen versions of this story set in the mythology of the Greeks and the Romans, in the stories of the Norse gods, in a galaxy far, far away or even in a school for wizardry and witchcraft, but this is the first time I’ve seen the theme played out using the legends of Kabbalah, the mystical branch of the Jewish faith. Aside from the story of the Golem--a creature of living clay that can be created by a rabbi, which featured heavily in the first two issues of the series--I’ve never seen Jewish folklore utilized in comics before as a storytelling framework. This alone makes the series stand out from the crowd, but it’s not the only aspect that makes the comic worth reading.

What THE THIRTY SIX really has going for it is writer Kristopher White’s decision to make the assembling of the thirty-six gifted individuals not a prologue to the plot (as it tends to be in the above-mentioned classics), but the driving force of the series. Even more interesting is that the destiny binding these thirty-six people together in no way guarantees that they’ll get along all hugs-and-kisses. This issue finds Noam, the current bearer of the Staff of Moses, attacked by the man who carried the Staff before him—a man who, along with his allies, also belongs to the titular group. I love the idea that though all these people are chosen to band together to save the world, they don’t share the same view on how to go about saving it.

I have to admit that I’m not as sold on the artistic end of the series. George Zapata has a good grasp of page composition and pacing, but his drawing style doesn’t quite gel for me. His heavy, fairly loose linework combined with the simplified figures and backgrounds sometimes gives the panels a muddiness that makes it difficult to discern what the action exactly is. For the most part, the artwork gets the job done in telling the story, but I would love to see Zapata experiment with some variance in his line weight, and maybe use some finer, less scratchy lines to add a little more detail to his backgrounds and facial expressions. With these slight adjustments, I feel that the visual end of THE THIRTY SIX would be elevated to a level that would better complement the writing.

This issue has me hanging on to find out what happens next--not just in a resolution to the cliffhanger ending, but further down the road as the comic grows and unfolds into what I hope will be a long and successful series. The Hero’s Journey is a familiar tale; THE THIRTY SIX encourages the reader to breathe deep of that fresh springtime air and experience the Journey anew.

When released from his bottle, the Imp transforms into Stephen Andrade, an artist/illustrator/pirate monkey painter from New England. He's currently hard at work interpreting fellow @$$Hole Optimous Douche's brainwaves and transforming them into pretty pictures on AVERAGE JOE, an original graphic novel to be published by Com.x. You can see some of his artwork here.


NO PLACE LIKE HOME #1

Writer: Angelo Tirotto
Artist: Richard Jordan
Publisher: Image Comics
Reviewer: Lyzard


From the cover you can tell that ain’t your ordinary tale of Oz, as Dee Dee zips down her leather jacket and heaves her bosom, also exposing her “Surrender” tattoo above them. This is a dark, dark take, but also one that veers off from the yellow brick road greatly.

NO PLACE LIKE HOME #1 is filled with nods to the WIZARD OF OZ, but less actual connections to the plot. Quick note: I haven’t read the original book since I was a kid, so I’ll be basing my comparisons on the Judy Garland flick. The first few pages trick you into thinking that this could be the traditional twister storm from the WIZARD OF OZ, except for the slight feel of this being modern times and the characters being named Donald and Linda. But the final frame changes the trajectory of the story, revealing to the reader that there is something else brewing in Emeraldsville, Kansas.

That is when Dee Dee pops into town, returning to bury her parents, Donald and Linda. She meets up with old friends, including her best bud Lizzy. This whole plot has nothing to do with the original tale and the creators’ statement at the end of the book tells us that we won’t be going to Oz anytime soon.

Dee Dee has some similarities to Dorothy, though I could never see Judy Garland in a denim mini skirt and having a studded nose. She and Lizzy’s dog, Terry, are the only clear characters that parallel those in THE WIZARD OF OZ and I only consider Dee Dee as one because she is the protagonist.

I have studied fairy tales extensively for the past five years; I’ve even been published on the subject. So I would like to think that I have a strong grasp on them. THE WIZARD OF OZ is considered by most as a fairy tale, though one based on a newer definition. The popularity of revamping these classic stories started in the 80s and more recent examples include Maguire’s WICKED. But NO PLACE LIKE HOME is part of an even more postmodern take on fairy tales where the stories are placed in the present and use the them as a skeleton to be built on. Personally, I find this take on THE WIZARD OF OZ more interesting. We all know the story, but this comic allows us to look at it in a whole new way.

I liked the references to THE WIZARD OF OZ, but I think the choice of naming it the TWISTERS DINER was a bit too much. As for the artwork, I thought the combination of the old and the new was smart. I don’t know if the intention was to refer back to the fact that this is an updated version and that the younger characters represented this as a modern take on the film and their lack of innocence represented how dark this tale would be, but I’d like to think that Richard Jordan put such deep thought into it.

My fellow reviewer Johnny Destructo also covered this book and I have to agree with his assessment. The only exception I would make is the fact that Dee Dee’s less moral friends, like Lizzie, will die due to their morality (or lack thereof). This is not an 80s slasher flick, and already the victims have been sweet geriatrics.

I know that the retelling of fairy tales seems to have been overdone in the past five years. Johnny Destructo lists all those awful adaptations (though it’s not EVER AFTER , Johnny--it is called ONCE UPON A TIME and I happen to love it) and how he had trepidation in reading this book. If you feel like Johnny, I completely understand. Even if you’re persuaded by the boobs on the cover to pick it up, I don’t care as long as you read this great comic.

Lyzard is actually Lyz Reblin, a senior screenwriting major with an English minor at Chapman University. Along with writing for AICN, she has been published twice on the subject of vampire films.


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  • Feb. 29, 2012, 8:45 a.m. CST

    All I eat is Pig and Beef

    by alexander

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 8:56 a.m. CST

    Ever After/Once Upon A Time: WHUPS!!

    by Poptard_JD

    Nice call Lyz! That's a testament to how little I care about the series. My gf likes it so I've watched at least 6 episodes of the show, but can't be arsed to remember the name. (Or to actually just google the name) As I was writing the review I yelled out to a friend "what's that terrible TV show that rips off Fables?" And she yelled out "Ever After" so I believed her!

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 9:28 a.m. CST

    So people DO acknowledge it liberaly mines from Fables?

    by alexander

    Oh good.

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 9:29 a.m. CST

    I've been meaning to ditch Avengers for years now..

    by Righteous Brother

    Somehow can't quite manage it. May as well get the last few issues of Bendis' run.

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 9:43 a.m. CST

    I really tried to like Once upon a time

    by gooseud

    The problem is, the show sucks balls, which is a big impediment.

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 9:44 a.m. CST

    I, Vampire

    by gooseud

    ITs awesome. Like, really great. Just thought everyone should know, everything they say about it is true.

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 9:53 a.m. CST

    No Place Like Home...

    by Righteous Brother

    I know the writer, Angelo - he runs my local comic shop.

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 10:08 a.m. CST

    Fables is good and all...

    by Ambush Bug

    but c'mon. It's not like it isn't mining from a much richer well too.

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 10:23 a.m. CST

    I, Vampire is fantastic

    by Stormshadow4life

    Definitely my favorite of the New 52

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 10:26 a.m. CST

    Oz and that 'I, Vampire' cover...

    by 3774

    ...is absolutely hypnotic-bad-ass to me for some reason. I usually find vampire stuff so completely boring that I don't even bother giving it the time of day (there's obviously something popular about it, I just don't plug into it), but the review makes me want to give that series a look. As for Oz.... 'There ain't no word in the booktionary to describe us.' - The Scarecrow of Oz 'Girls are the fiercest soldiers of all,' declared the Frogman. 'They are more brave than men and they have better nerves.' - The Lost Princess of Oz 'The only people worthy of consideration are the unusual ones.' - The Marvelous Land of Oz I still care, even when so many others don't. To each their own.

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 10:27 a.m. CST

    Justice League Dark rocks!

    by MariusXe

    No, really. Having Constantine back in the DCU proper and still being written by one of his all time best vertigo writers is great. really love most of the new 52!

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 10:27 a.m. CST

    for once ambush bug...

    by alexander

    Amen or Namaste or whatever floats your boat

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 10:28 a.m. CST

    for once? That sounds bitchy

    by alexander

    'I agree!'

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 10:30 a.m. CST

    Woah, mangled header...

    by 3774

    That 'I, Vampire' cover is hypnotic-bad-ass (to my eyeholes, anyway). The Oz cover, not.

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 10:36 a.m. CST

    jasonicus : I'm with you on Dark Avengers. They...JUST ...DID. ..THAT

    by Poptard_JD

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 10:38 a.m. CST

    I'm SOOO behind on I,Vamp, JL Dark, Swamp Thing and Animal Man

    by Poptard_JD

    but i REALLY REALLY wanna catch up!

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 10:41 a.m. CST

    I'm actually dropping JL Dark

    by HalJordanSuperstar

    I think it's turned out to be quite boring, repetitive and now crossing over with a book I don't read. Perfect time to jump off.

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 10:49 a.m. CST

    My boyfriend took a dump.

    by 3774

    Actually, he took two. Justice League Pop-a-collah and New Guardians. There, JD. I made a poop joke for you.

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 10:56 a.m. CST

    Pink, give those vamp books a chance

    by gooseud

    I personally could care less about vampires in any other context, but American Vampire has been one of the best books on the stands since issue 1, and I Vampire is easily top 3 of the new 52

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 10:57 a.m. CST

    Hey Poptard don't sweat it

    by gooseud

    Those are only 3 of the best 4 books DC has published in years, no worries, take ur time! ;-)

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 11 a.m. CST

    New Avengers trailer is out.

    by rev_skarekroe

    I feel slightly ashamed that I'm more excited about this film than about anything happening in the comics world right now, but there you go. http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/marvel/avengers/

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 11:05 a.m. CST

    Nice one Rev...

    by Righteous Brother

    Gonna take a looksee now.

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 11:09 a.m. CST

    Holy Shit!!!!

    by Righteous Brother

    That looks fucking awesome, if you don't like it you are either: A) Killik B) Creepythinman C) Asimov Lives D) A Tool. Seriously what more could you want from an Avengers movie?

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 11:14 a.m. CST

    Can anyone work out who the bad guys are?

    by Righteous Brother

    Cos I ain't sure.

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 11:17 a.m. CST

    Plain Ketchup

    by Poptard_JD

    I'm playing catch-up slowly but surely. I finally just read Swamp Thing issue 2. So he was never Swamp Thing, ever ever? Interesting. You'd think there would be some sort of backlash, like when Marvel said that 15 years of Spidey Continuity wasn't Peter, it was Ben Reilly. But I guess Swamp clones are better than Spider clones? Seriously though, this is a fun horror book! Love the backward-headed axe-wielding zombie people.

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 11:22 a.m. CST

    Avengers trailer: Holy HANNAH!

    by Poptard_JD

    That looks glorious. Though..out of all of that awesome one thing stands out as silly. Cap's helmet. It looks like it's squishing his head. Doesn't matter, I hope it rules! I REALLY REALLY want this to be a win for Marvel and Joss.

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 11:22 a.m. CST

    I think the bad guys are SKRULLS

    by Poptard_JD

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 12:05 p.m. CST

    JL Dark blows....

    by Homer Sexual

    Last week I stood there for the longest debating whether or not to pick up another issue of Justice League Dark because I love all the team members. Especially Zatanna and Shade. But as much as I want to like it, it's boring. Nowhere near as good as Shade or Zatanna's individual titles. Very weak revamp, IMO. Not edgy, not creepy, not exciting. Not particularly good characterization. Not horrible, just not good at all and I don't see how it appeals to anyone. It's Dark-Lite, at best.

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 12:20 p.m. CST

    I have finally gotten....

    by BangoSkank

    ..to the point that I can drop a long-read book with no feeling of guilt. I dropped Avengers like the bad habit it was, and now feel a little richer every time a new issue comes out. Okay. Not richer, less poor. Yeah, I feel less poor. I might pick it back up when AvX starts up, but it has not been missed the last six months. And I hope AvX is worth reading. I skipped Siege and Fear Itself, so I'm not feeling the same level of event-fatigue that I was. (And I actually had to google Fear Itself, because I couldn't remember the name of the so-called event, or what it was even about. Sooooo forgettable.)

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 12:37 p.m. CST

    Avengers trailer = pointy nips!

    by 3774

    Well, the last part anyway. I kind of sighed watching them fight each other. Why does there always have to be the hero-vs-hero posturing? Hulk saving IM was neat. Scarlett wears her game face a little too much. It's barely belivable to begin with. I wish they would have gone with someone else. People keep denying it's the Skrulls, JD.

  • http://collider.com/avengers-villain-toys/144422/ but who knows?

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 1:12 p.m. CST

    i'd pay double the average movie ticket price..

    by sonnyhooper

    ....to see a movie about John Constantine with Sting (the musician, not the sword) playing the lead role. It would just be too cool to see. of course it will never happen because Keanu Reeves had to just ruin it for everyone, plus you know the studios would think Sting wayyyyy toooo old to cast in any film. <p> how depressing is it that we live in a world where Sting is probably considered too old to play a character whos appearance was based on him?

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 1:22 p.m. CST

    by 3774

    As depressing as marketability equalling teen youth, TOTALLY EXTREME EDGYNESS, cynicism and bigger cup sizes.

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 1:51 p.m. CST

    Avengers movie

    by Joenathan

    I think they're denying it's the skrulls because of Fox having the rights due to the Fantastic Four. I bet they'll be the Chitauri, otherwise known as The Ultimate Skrulls. So are they using the Skrulls? No. They're using the Chitauris. See what I did there?

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 1:53 p.m. CST

    Also

    by Joenathan

    Can I add my shock about the re-use of the Dark Avengers to the great big pile of shock going on here? I mean, how is it that a comic book--a COMIC BOOK!--is using the SAME VILLIANS!? AGAIN? What the hell? I am shocked! SHOCKED!! SHOCKED!

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 1:56 p.m. CST

    Homer is right

    by Joenathan

    JL Dark is terrible. Boring and poorly done. Terrible. Wonder Woman has creepier shit going on. JL Dark is like the CW show of what the comic should be.

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 1:57 p.m. CST

    Good job, Bango

    by Joenathan

    I like when people see that a comic isn't doing what they want and instead of continuing to buy and complain like a huge fucking moron, they instead simply stop buying it. Good for you, Bango.

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 2:06 p.m. CST

    TOTALLY EXTREME EDGYNESS!!!!

    by sonnyhooper

    ....now with more Exclamation marks!!!!!! i guess it wouldn't be so bad if they got some teenage youth to play John Constantine, as long as he was an actual BRITISH teen youth..... <p> no, never mind..... i just bit my tongue, it would still be awful.

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 2:20 p.m. CST

    TOTALLY EXTREME EDGYNESS!!!!

    by sonnyhooper

    now with 100% more exclamation marks!!!! <p> maybe it wouldn't be so awful to have a marketable teen youth play John Constantine..... as long as he was actually a British marketable teen youth? <p> no.....never mind.... i just bit my own tongue, it would still be awful. <p> and i'm right there with you on bigger cup sizes too pink. as a wise man once said 'any more than a hand full and you are risking a sprained thumb.'

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 2:22 p.m. CST

    sorry for the double post...

    by sonnyhooper

    ....but this antiquated talkback ate half my original post because i dared to use quotation marks.

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 2:34 p.m. CST

    Bendis' Avengers

    by maxwell's hammer

    There is definitely the occasional whel-spinning, but the two issues out today (New & Vanilla) are both decent and finally get some synergy out of two parallel storylines. And I don't think the new Dark team is just reheating a recently done idea, it's more about throwing together all the Avengers most recent enemies to increase the threat...

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 2:37 p.m. CST

    JLD

    by optimous_douche

    To each their own. I can understand the reservations you guys mentioned, the first arc was not a bastion of excitement. As I mentioned in my review though, the dynamic personalities made the talky time interesting to me at least.

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 2:48 p.m. CST

    Constantine

    by Joenathan

    He'd be a better show than a movie. He's not a flashy character with a big battle that can be told in two hours. He's multi-layered and complex and a slow burn to get to know. He should be an HBO. Not with Sting though, he may have looked like him, but he couldn't pull it off.

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 2:50 p.m. CST

    So true, Max

    by Joenathan

    With Ultron and Kang waiting in the wings Osborne represents the other great Avengers enemy: The Masters of Evil. Plus, I love how, do to their previous stories, he actually has some pretty big boulders to lob at the Avengers' glass house.

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 2:52 p.m. CST

    due*

    by Joenathan

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 3:06 p.m. CST

    Tony Chu from Chew....

    by sonnyhooper

    ....always thought it would be cool if somehow they could make a subtle reference to Tony Chu being the great, great, great grandfather of Matter Eater Lad. <p> i know, i know, it's a very different concept, and different comic companies, BUT......what can i say..... Tony Chu being a distant relative of Matter Eater Lad is the kind of geeky brain fart that makes me smile.

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 3:32 p.m. CST

    Hay, come on now. I like Supernatural.

    by 3774

    At least so far. I'm still in the middle of season 5. I flipped through the comic. It looked...not good.

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 3:33 p.m. CST

    Dark Avengers redo

    by Laserhead

    That's my whole attitude about AvsX. Wasn't this called 'Civil War' a few years ago? Alright, seven years ago.

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 3:37 p.m. CST

    JL Dark

    by Laserhead

    Have to agree with the criticisms. I decided it was awful, after spending six issues trying to talk myself into thinking it was a good book. I like all the characters, I generally like Peter Milligan a lot, and the art was good. But after six issues, the only thought I had was that I was reasonably certain there must be a reason all these generic characters were running around, but I couldn't remember what it was.

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 3:40 p.m. CST

    No, Laserhead

    by Joenathan

    Civil War was Iron Man and his people vs. Cap and his people. AvsX is CYCLOPS and his people vs Cap and his people. HUGE difference. Can Iron Man shot lasers out of his eyes? No, he can not. I don't think... Either way, it's not his MAIN weapon, so... way different

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 3:51 p.m. CST

    Everyone is right, jl dark blows

    by gooseud

    I was never so sure I would love a book, and I was never so dead wrong.

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 3:54 p.m. CST

    Marvel blows at crossovers

    by gooseud

    Marvel has alot going for them, and bottomless wells of talent to draw from....but they are god awful at company wide crossovers. It's one of the great mysteries of comicdom, why they can't ever execute one with any competence.

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 3:56 p.m. CST

    pink about Supernatural....

    by sonnyhooper

    .....you might want to stop watching the show at the end of season 5. the end of that season was the original ending point that Eric Kripke, the show creator, wanted to end the show with, but since Supernatural was getting big ratings (well big for the CW anyway) the network wanted to keep the show going so Kripke left as show-runner. <p> since then season 6 and 7 have been ok, but it's just not the same considering season 5 was pretty much the perfect ending point for the show. i'd be very interested to hear what you think about the final show of season 5 once you get there.

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 4:13 p.m. CST

    JLA Dark is sorta cool

    by Greg Nielsen

    Or at least I like it. I don't have any clue why so little was done with Mindwarp. One minute he's killing people and they never explained why and then he's talking to the weird corpsy version of the Enchantress. They made a pretty big deal about him too. I still like it though. It had some really good ideas. I know it's not for everyone.

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 4:19 p.m. CST

    Marvel crossovers

    by Joenathan

    They haven't always stuck the landing on them, (although I'd argue it was more due to a lack of space in some of the books than the story itself, at least most of the time...) but they have bounced off a couple of them into some really cool set-ups. Personally I'm not that excited for AvsX, I mean what could possiblly have LESS permanent or shocking, lasting effect on the Marvel Universe then two multi-million dollar franchises having a big slap-fight? They'll either stop fighting just short of actually doing damage or they'll realize who the true enmey is and team-up. It's not there's going to be a rift between the teams or anything. Are the Avengers going to become mutant hunters? No. It might be fun, but whatever. Anyway, just think of them as just another adventure, instead of an epic event and you'll be fine.

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 4:26 p.m. CST

    Mindwarp in JLA Dark

    by Greg Nielsen

    To clarify not already clear I did like Mind Warp even though he's just magic Negative Man from Doom Patrol...and maybe a serial murderer

  • I seriously didn't start reading comic books until I got my new job and never ever read them as a kid. Marvel turned me off completely after 4. I even stopped getting Secret Warriors which was their best book. I did get Ultimate X though and really liked that but now that's gone and it's a crossover thing with Ultimates. I might get the trades though

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 5:11 p.m. CST

    The best marvel event recently was....

    by gooseud

    Siege, despite the god awful ending, was pretty good. Why? Because it wasnt an event. It was just a regular contained avengers story that randomly got an "event" label. In the 80s it woulda been just another story, which i dont mean as an insult.

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 5:19 p.m. CST

    Seige was definitely an event

    by Greg Nielsen

    It crossed over into every book and pretty much got me to drop everything but Secret Warriors Actually yeah. I did drop everything but Secret Warriors. Even a short event is annoying at times. Not that I hate all events...I sorta liked Secret Invasion but then I found DC Millennium which was like it's weirder way cooler cousin who got drunk behind the middle school when you were 6 and they were 11.

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 6:40 p.m. CST

    Jeremy Renner

    by Lyzard

    Okay, so I'm finally out of class and saw the Avengers trailer. My biggest problem, which isn't a big problem but just one that stands out to me the most is Jeremy Renner. He is the "newest" out of all the characters. Thor, Iron Man, Captain America, and the Hulk (though a different actor, but still) had their own movies. Scarlet showed up in Iron Man, but Renner's appearance in Thor was short. So maybe it is because there has been so little attention put on him (he's in like 10% of this trailer) but he always seems to have the same look on his face. I mean, if I did screen caps of every frame he is in, I would get the same reaction in each shot. IDK, maybe it has to do with the lack of coverage he is getting, but if that is how he is in the film, then I feel that the movie will feel unbalanced with one character clearly weaker (or less needed) than the others.

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 7:02 p.m. CST

    Hawkeye...

    by 3774

    My boyfriend started reading The Ultimates (first six issues), and loves it so far (I haven't read it yet). He says Hawkeye is 'cool', but hasn't really, actually done anything yet. There's two things I think would make the character stand on his own in the movie. 1.) Ride the Stark advanced tech *hard* for his bow. Make it do a wide array of things that are really imaginative-neato. Give him a plausible way to be effective alongside the others. 2.) Play up a sniper aspect. If it's one thing action-lovers think are cool, it's snipers. There's no reason for him to be in the 'thick' of it. And if someone tries to run, they'll only die tired. As far as Scarlett goes, my brain just can't get past how completely wrong she is for the part, to think of possibilities. I just don't buy her as an action heroine.

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 7:41 p.m. CST

    No

    by Joenathan

    What makes Hawkeye cool is that he is a swashbuckling bad ass regular guy that is highly trained. He's the modern day Captain America WITHOUT a super soldier serum AND he uses a bow. That's why he's cool. He's like Batman without the detective. He's a Spec Ops soldier... with a bow. Rambo did it, now Hawkeye will too. To be fair, in the Ultimate U he has some bio-upgrades, but the movieverse doesn't seem to run that kind of tech angle much, so I bet he'll be more in line with classic Hawkeye, even though he dresses like Ultimate Hawkeye.

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 8:56 p.m. CST

    Uh, ok.

    by 3774

    I was only pointing out how they could make the character's power dynamic more comparable to the others. If you've managed to extrapolate some sort of assumption that Hawkeye's personality *hasn't* changed by his brief appearance in Thor, you have gifted foresight.

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 9:22 p.m. CST

    Yes

    by Joenathan

    And missing the point of the character. His lack of "godliness" is what makes him special. He's supposed to be "just the guy with the bow" and yet able to keep up. Of course, it's a comic too, so you know... leeway is given, but yeah, that's who he is. As for his brief appearance in Thor, I would say he IS falling right in line with the professional special ops soldier demeanor they establish in the Ultimates. But you're right, I AM gifted, so...

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 10:19 p.m. CST

    Urm...

    by 3774

    ...no. I was referring to the whole 'swashbuckler' thing. You stated that was who he was, and I think they unbuckled his swash when they dropped the cuffed boots, purple outfit and giant H helm. If my childhood memory serves.

  • Feb. 29, 2012, 11:27 p.m. CST

    Hawkeye

    by hatemphd

    In the ultimate universe, its Blackwidow who has the tech implants, not Hawkeye. He bitches in the comics about it. His bad-ass scenes are in Ultimates 2, when he's ambushed and when he escapes.

  • March 1, 2012, 12:22 a.m. CST

    Good point

    by Joenathan

    Ultimate Hawkeye isn't as swashing, but there is still some swagger. Regular Hawkeye has had his outfit changed to reflect the movie version, so the lines are getting blurry.

  • March 1, 2012, 12:23 a.m. CST

    Ulitmate Hawkeye

    by Joenathan

    In the Ultimate Hawkeye series recently, when he went into the SEAR, he talks about having eye implants and makes some other vague references implying his general "aiming" badassery has got some bio-tech boosting behind it.

  • March 1, 2012, 6:45 a.m. CST

    Just read Swamp Thing 3

    by Poptard_JD

    Ok, I'm officially creeped out. This series is off to a great start.

  • March 1, 2012, 7:05 a.m. CST

    Gotta agree with Pink....

    by BangoSkank

    on both Hawkeye and Black Widow. Much of Hawkeye's charm does come from the swashbuckling swagger, and if that doesn't come accross in the movie, he may see badly out of place. I just doen't see them spending much time on *the guy with the bow* when they have all the other cool toys to play with. But yeah, if they focus on the sniper/black-ops spy thing, it could work. Scarlett, though, ugh. I wish they would have picked just about anyone else to play the part. Don't know what they were thinking. But I'm just being a bitchy little fanboy. In reality that trailer got me completely jazzed for the flick...

  • March 1, 2012, 9:10 a.m. CST

    Ultimate Hawkeye

    by Laserhead

    Definitely has lots of tech upgrades. He tells Ultimate Pym about them in Ultimatum, and then mentions them again in Ult. Hawkeye. Just to settle that.

  • March 1, 2012, 9:19 a.m. CST

    Oh, you know what they were thinkin'.

    by 3774

    They were thinking the same the casting director for Fantastic Four was thinking when they horribly miscast Susan with Jessica Alba. Scarlett and Jessica are two rare types of current actresses who guys have an almost 100% universal agreement on 'hotness'. I think if they would have tried a little harder in both movies, they could have found actresses who were attractive, believable as action stars, *and* also maybe 'fit' the character. But, at least for FF, they settled for one out of three. We'll see with this movie. My mother was a gun-toting survivalist (both on and off the reservation) when I was growing up, and after I joined polite society later I had some geek guy friends who were into guns. When that final pan rotates around the team, I couldn't help but think 'really? *That's* what she's going to use?' Tony shouldn't be so stingy with the tech. Cough up some new stuff!

  • March 1, 2012, 10:52 a.m. CST

    Scarlet And Hawkeye

    by Joenathan

    I think her casting was just an extension of the stupid shit fanboys usually do: Wolverine is short, so whoever plays him has to be short... Glen Danzig! Plus, he likes Wolverine! Remember when Harry threw a fit because Jennifer Garner wasn't Greek. "How can she play Electra?!?" So, Black Widow has red hair, what celebrity has red hair... Scarlet! Shit, Sonny was claiming Sting should get to play Constantine because they both had spiked blonde hair at one point and a british accent. So, we get a Black Widow who is a little too soft looking. It's a very nice softness, but still. But yeah, they should have at least given her a bigger gun. As for Hawkeye, the films have always been a little Ultimatey, and judging from Thor, I'm sure they'll play up the professional soldier bit. But either way, like I said, Rambo uses a bow and Batman hangs out with the JLA and it all works there, right, so why wouldn't it work here? Hello, Robin Hood? Come on.

  • March 1, 2012, 11:14 a.m. CST

    Siege

    by KLETUS_CASSIDY

    i agree with Goose, Siege was the best of the recent events...it was short and to the point, the lead up made sense, all the tie ins added to the story rather than just being there to make money(the Thunderbolts tie in was great!), and it was just fun...

  • March 1, 2012, 12:54 p.m. CST

    Seige? Hmm... also Black Widow and the Twelve

    by Homer Sexual

    Since there was very little to buy this week, I decided to grab a TP. I actually bought the first Madame Xanadu written by Matt Wagner, but was thinking about Seige (12.99 vs 24.99 was the deciding factor). Maybe I'll order that on Amazon. Black Widow... has irritated me since Iron Man 2. Hello... Ever heard of Milla Jovovich? She would've been perfect, but of course she isn't A-List (not that Mark Ruffalo and Jeremy Renner are). I like Scarlett but she's awful as Black Widow. Now, while I only bought a couple comics, I read two really good ones last night. Issue 10 of The Twelve is really good. Although there are two more issues, I think this may be the climax. The mystery is solved in a very satisfying (if not surprising) manner. We all hate on JMS, and deservedly so, but this is a total "A" in terms of quality: Intense, great characterization and plotting. Really, really good. I also read last weeks issue 187 of The Simpsons. It was also excellent. Homer destroys the internet and so The Simpsons have to provide internet services (research, cute animals, dangerous stunts, porn) to Springfield until the internet is back up. I am sure next to no one here reads the Simpsons, but even if you normally don't, I do recommend picking up this issue. It's better than a lot of other books I buy each month. Such as All-Star Western, which had a lame ending to the overlong Gotham story. The backup tale of the Barbary Ghost was actually better. I was all set to drop ASW, but then they have Hex meet Nighthawk and Cinnamon on the last page, so I guess Im in for another issue...

  • March 1, 2012, 3:21 p.m. CST

    The Twelve

    by Joenathan

    Is it good? That's too bad. I remember liking it, but it was so long ago and JMS doesn't give a shit, so... too bad. So sad.

  • March 1, 2012, 5:40 p.m. CST

    Earth 2 previews.

    by 3774

    Robin/Huntress looks promising... http: //dcu.blog.dccomics. com/2012/02/28/earth-2-character-designs-robin/ ...but there's something about the presentation of Supergirl/Power Girl and how she's being handled that completely puts me off. http: //dcu.blog.dccomics. com/2012/03/01/earth-2-character-designs-%E2%80%93-supergirl/ Oh well. Guess I'll find out soon enough.

  • March 2, 2012, 11:40 a.m. CST

    lol, actually joey...

    by sonnyhooper

    ...i got the idea for Sting as John Constantine from the guys who created the character, Alan Moore, Stephen Bissette and John Totleben. Those guys were big fans of The Police and actually based the character on Stings likeness. <p> you would expect a guy who thinks hes as smart as you do would know that, but alas not so much. LOL

  • March 2, 2012, 1:46 p.m. CST

    Operative word, 'thinks'.

    by 3774

  • March 2, 2012, 2:23 p.m. CST

    Avengers movie

    by Hedgehog000

    I hate to be "that" guy, you know the one who whines about the outfits, but this time, I can't help but whine about Cap's outfit. It reminds me of the outfit Reb Brown wore in the abysmal 80s era made for TV Cap or the one Salinger one in the equally bad 90s Cap cheapie movie.

  • March 2, 2012, 2:29 p.m. CST

    BW and Hawkeye

    by Hedgehog000

    I think having both in the movie is a mistake since the overlap is too great. I agree about Hawkeye's special forces angle - it might work - comparing him to Batman in JLA though is a bridge to far. When Batman is with JLA, he's basically the bossier Reed Richards/Tony Stark of the group. His Bat-niscience is his superpower. Black Widow though, I dunno, Whedon's done good work with grrl power before, but usually in ironic mode. Watching ScarJo pose in that trailer is the moment when everyone sort of snickers at how out of place she is. At least give her back the old wrist blasters.

  • March 6, 2012, 1:41 a.m. CST

    So lemme get this straight yorgo...

    by Majin Fu

    You sorta liked Secret Invasion but you didn't care for Siege? I feel completely opposite. SI was super repetitive and downright boring while Siege at least had some incredible action and art. Siege is the best event Marvel has done in awhile, even with Bendis' god-awful (and cluttered) writing and that incredibly STUPID ending. "Oh no! The bad guy that used to be good can't be beat! Let's just drop a SHIELD carrier on him... There, he's beat." ...SO STUPID! But still, the art was great.

  • March 6, 2012, 7:10 p.m. CST

    Black Widow & Hawkeye R There 2 Narc On The Freaks

    by Buzz Maverik

    You're Nick Fury. You're facing the God of Evil and you don't even believe in gods of evil. He's got the worm thing from TRANSFORMERS 3D on his side. You have no choice but to call in the mad scientist billionaire with the unstoppable armored battle suit, the one man SEAL team from WW II, the other mad scientist who becomes the most powerful being to ever walk the earth, and a Thunder God when you don't really believe in thunder gods. You'd want a couple of Extreme Op agents attached to that unit to keep tabs, report back, make sure the freaks don't go into business for themselves, etc.

  • March 6, 2012, 7:13 p.m. CST

    Also, I Like The Idea of Extreme Personality Heroes

    by Buzz Maverik

    Sort of defined by WATCHMEN. Somebody skilled but insane enough to put on a suit and battle whatever.

  • March 7, 2012, 11:21 a.m. CST

    On Siege and Secret Invasion Majin_Fu....

    by Greg Nielsen

    I gottta say Siege just was dumb to me and was a really dumb idea too. I mean honestly how many times have the Asgardians been good guys? Why does it start out like Civil War only this time with a fat viking god? Why on Earth is this the reason that we lost Dan Slott's Mighty Avengers? Worst of all Diggle's supper great early Thunderbolts run got cut for this. Secret Invasion was dumb but at least a fun idea. I mean yeah it was repetitive but it could've been super cool if it had been done right. Execution was lacking. So was DC Millennium. Corporate concerns kill stories like that. Besides Secret Invasion had the hilarious Norman Osborne got his gun moment at the end. Plus, Siege really did have one of the dumbest endings ever. Like they threw the guy who is supposed to have the power of 1,000 suns into the sun...yeah that'll do it. Also, a way bigger fan Leinil Yu than I am Olivier Copiel. I like them both but I'm more a of Yu fan in the end. Although how great was Copiel on that Fraction Thor stuff.