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Fascinating Video Of Steven Spielberg Watching The Announcement Of The 1976 Academy Award Nominations!
Beaks here...
The year was 1976. There were no Oscar blogs, maybe a handful of "awards gurus", and, as a result, genuine mystery surrounding what films would get nominated for the Academy Awards. For twenty-nine-year-old Steven Spielberg, there was considerable hope and maybe a touch of arrogance: after all, he'd just made what was then the biggest box hit of all time in JAWS. What's more, the film was a huge critical success. So when he brags at the beginning of the below video that he's expecting eleven nominations, I'm not entirely sure he's joking.
Here's how things turned out (thanks to Keith Calder for the link)...
I can't tell if he's surprised or pissed that NASHVILLE got nominated. He does seem okay with losing his richly-deserved Best Director nomination to Federico Fellini for AMARCORD.
This was the beginning of Spielberg's odd relationship with the Academy Awards. He would get his first directing nod a couple of years later for CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND, and would bounce back from the much-reviled 1941 with a nomination for RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK. The Oscar was Spielberg's to lose in 1983; unfortunately, the Academy went for the well-intentioned GANDHI (directed by John Hammond himself, Sir Richard Attenborough) over E.T.
And yet the biggest snub was yet to come. In 1986, THE COLOR PURPLE received eleven nominations, only to be shut out across the board (OUT OF AFRICA won in a weak Picture field that also included KISS OF THE SPIDER WOMAN, PRIZZI'S HONOR and, the best of the bunch, WITNESS). At that point, Spielberg seemed destined to be the Hitchcock of his generation: a massively popular storyteller whose films are deemed too frivolous for the prestigious Academy Awards. The tepid reaction to his excellent EMPIRE OF THE SUN in 1988 all but confirmed this.
And while everything changed with SCHINDLER'S LIST in 1993, the Academy wasn't quite finished fucking with Spielberg. Though SAVING PRIVATE RYAN entered the '98-'99 awards derby as the prohibitive favorite for Best Picture, Harvey Weinstein's ferocious campaigning on behalf of SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE led to one of the biggest Oscar night stunners in film history - which was even more surprising after Spielberg won his second Best Director trophy earlier in the evening.
The saga continues tomorrow, with Spielberg's two 2011 offerings, WAR HORSE and THE ADVENTURES OF TINTIN, expected to go home empty handed. But most expect he'll be right back in the running next year with LINCOLN. Perhaps, for old time's sake, he'll summon his two goofball friends from the above video (I've been trying and failing to identify those guys for the last hour*), and let someone document his elation/disappointment as the nominations come in.
*Thanks to the talkbackers for identifying the man in the JAWS t-shirt as the late, great Joe Spinell.
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Feb. 25, 2012, 6:22 p.m. CST
Saw this awhile ago. Isn't one of the dudes Chichi from godfather
by ndally
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One of them...can't remember his name, but wasn't the the loanshark in Rocky?
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Then again im a huge Spielberg fan and search the interwebs for this shit
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It's Joe Spinell...he played Tony in Rocky too.
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Most of this was included on the terrific Spinnel documentary that can still be found on the DVD of MANIAC. Indeed, that's the marvelous character actor Spinnell himself wearing the JAWS t-shirt and listed as one of the "Friends of Spielberg."
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Who starred in 1980's "Maniac" among other things.
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DON'T YOU FEEL RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR SON BEING A MORBIDLY OBESE MONGOLOID WHO LIVES IN FANTASY LAND AND MARRIED TO A MAIL ORDER BRIDE WAITING FOR HIM TO DIE SO SHE CAN SELL HIS SHIT??? NO ONE HAS RESPECT FOR EITHER OF YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE TWO DISGUSTING FAT
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: Because everyone respects folk who anonymously scream at folk about them and their sons with barrages of fat and mongoloid insults.
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Never seen this before! So much for that reunion. RIP.
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Spielberg should be very proud of his filmography (as I'm sure he is). Any true cinephile will tell you the Oscars just DON'T MATTER to anyone but all those clowns taking part in the most epic circle-jerk of the year, which is exactly what the Oscars have always been for Hollywood. If a film is good and the people praise it, you did your job right regardless of what that screwy "academy" thinks!
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Obvious statement, I know, but I grew up on the slightly older Spielberg (I was 9 years old- the target audience - when JP came out), so it is pretty cool to see him when he was barely any older than I am. It's also kind of depressing. I'm in school, working on a degree...by my age this man had already made JAWS. Fuck. Well, we can't all be WINNERS. ;)
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All downhill after "Jaws". Pure sentimentality after that, unimaginable storytelling and lack of heart his trademark after that. I never feel involved in a Spielberg movie. I never care about the characters.
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..not only does he play the murdering clingy director in Columbo, but he makes this short about the same director getting fucked over. Is this some kind of prequel to that episode, setting up his murderous intent?? Bravo sir, bravo
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Spielberg has made some good films, 2 great ones, but he's outclassed by this lot.
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Was screwed more than Spielberg that year, and every year.
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The guy is one the top 5 directors who ever lived. In no particular order - Scorsesi Kubrick Spielberg Hitchcock Kurosawa
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The nominations alone should tell you that. It's posibly the most boring and stilted ceremony ever!
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Feb. 25, 2012, 7 p.m. CST
Joe Spinell was spectacularly over-the-top as Count Zarth Arn in "Star Crash".
by Jet Jaguar
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I was in Da Godfaddah! Who directed Jahhs, da shawk?!?
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Feb. 25, 2012, 7:03 p.m. CST
The beard before the beard was a cocky one, apparently.
by Tank Williams
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As someone mentioned, it was shown in the Spinell Doc that was on it. Worth checking out BTW.
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beat Raiders. Bullshit.
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War Horse is depressing bullshit from a man who, up until Indy IV, hadn't had a bad run of films at all, not since the questionable Lost World. Tintin was easily the superior movie of the two. Not that it deserved a Best Picture nom but at least it's a fun adventure movie that, who woulda thunk it, doesn't depress me, guilt trip me out or push some kind of fucking agenda on me. Pure escapist fun. This is why Curse of the Black Pearl was the best popcorn movie in years when that arrived. Yet Hollywood still seems intent on being heavy-handed at every turn and stopping the fun. Btw, everyone knows Spielberg made Schindler's List cause he was sick of the Academy snubs. That was one movie they could never EVER have snubbed.
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Feb. 25, 2012, 7:15 p.m. CST
Other guy is Frank Pesce. He was the guy Axel Foley tried to sell cigarettes to. :)
by Farrokh
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Same voice, wow. Anyway, great video--gotta love the entourage.
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Spielberg has done oh so much better then Orson...at least he didn't make the mistake on stepping on the toes of an older dude with many more connections. Perhaps he was snubbed just because he was jewish.....just saying. It was still old school yet.
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Feb. 25, 2012, 7:37 p.m. CST
Actually Pesce and Spinell were originally cast as the two fishermen who get pulled off the pier.
by Mitch
If memory serves, this clip is from one of the Maniac DVD documentaries.
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Feb. 25, 2012, 7:38 p.m. CST
SS and Federico Fellini were friends way before the Jaws movie
by KilliK
FF had invited him for dinner in his home after SS made the Duel movie.that's why he doesnt care that he lost his nomination to Fellini.
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Feb. 25, 2012, 7:48 p.m. CST
holy shit those two guys at the end, they almost seem like a parody of hollywood suits from the 70s
by awepittance
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at all in the same class of artists like Hitchcock,Fellini,Kubrick,Truffaut,Kurosawa and so on. He is talented,he has great technical skills,he is extraordinary in the entertainment cinema but as drama goes,he is simply not adept.Schindler's List is his only true artistic masterpiece and that's that.
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This is why many people hate hearing about Hollywood people bitching and moaning, "boo-hoo, I didn't get an Oscar this year, whaaahhhh!!!!!" Seriously. I. Am. Not. Fucking. Around. Here. Folks!!!!!! Not only do these spoiled brats* get to make their living making over budgeted films, earning millions of dollars a year at the very least, they get to bitch and moan about it with their stupid Academy Awards ceremony every damn year. At this point I don't know what is worse, the depressingly retarded farce that are our Presidential Elections every four years, or the annual Oscar buzz, celebrity gossip, and Hollywood politics (which is basically Harvey Weinstein playing the part of Al Capone and rigging the game every fucking time). Let's not forget all the fashion envy of the red carpet, where the majority of the stars' dresses and tuxedos cost more to rent for a single night than the average salary of most middle class working people. About the only person I can single out of this ridiculous trend is Peter Jackson, who showed up to the 2004 Academy Awards in a tux with shorts and his trademarked disheveled hair. He deserves a fucking medal for doing that, in addition to making The Lord of the Rings trilogy, not some gold dildo of a statue shaped like the T1000 when it pooped itself through that hole in the elevator that Arnold made with his shotgun in Terminator 2. *Please bear in mind that this rant is not directed at Spielberg specifically, as this video posted in the article seems to be him joking a bit about it as he has always seemed to have a good sense of humor and comes off as a somewhat humble guy for all his money and power... of course, we can't say that about most of Hollywood can we? FACT!!!!!!!!!!
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Feb. 25, 2012, 7:52 p.m. CST
I apologize to creepythinman for stealing his TB writing style
by lv_426
It just had to be done in this case.
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Feb. 25, 2012, 7:54 p.m. CST
Is he saying "commercial BLACK-lash" or "commericial BACK-lash" ?
by Ali Kerim Bey
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Feb. 25, 2012, 8:06 p.m. CST
Commercial Backlash - Spielberg is 100% right, sad that this bullshit still happens today
by Mr. Moe
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Was there any film nominated this year that was half as good as any five of those films?
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It is interesting to note that the majority of Spielberg's wins for Academy Awards are in the technical categories. He has had 9 nominations for actors over the years, with 0 wins. On the flip side, Woody Allen has had 15 nominations for actors, with 6 wins (and I'm guessing almost no technical awards). Since actors make up the majority of the voting body, it shouldn't come as a surprise that he is not celebrated by that body, whereas Woody Allen (and in my opinion, deservedly so) is celebrated for a great majority of his films. Additionally, I'm not saying that Spielberg is a bad director. He just doesn't belong on a list of top 5 directors ever. (And did anyone else find it ironic and satisfying that tittytwister misspelled Scorsese?)
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The family had a lot of buffers!
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Feb. 25, 2012, 8:40 p.m. CST
WE CAN ALWAYS COUNT ON AICN TO POST "NEWS" THAT'S BEEN ON YOUTUBE FOR YEARS.
by MENTALDOMINANCE
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http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-talk/first-set-photos-star-trek-sequel-222928738.html
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Feb. 25, 2012, 8:54 p.m. CST
Color Purple is not a good movie. Nor was E.T. JAWS is awesome and should have won though. Raiders & CEOTTK are awesome too.
by MENTALDOMINANCE
Schindler's List? Over rated and kinda boring. Same with Saving Private Ryan. It's just because they're about the Holocaust or WWII that people feel forced to say they're great. Same with The Color Purple. Just because it's about a serious and awful subject matter people feel obligated to say it's great lest they be accused of being racist... Or an anti Semite... Or whatever. I'm none of those things yet I reserve the right to say these films really suck. So does the Spielberg film with that annoying brat whom I could never identify with or feel for in it... Empire of the Sun. I include WAR HORSE with the above titles as well. It was an absolutely terrible film but with a serious subject matter. Tintin was so bad I couldn't finish it... It was like a PS3 cut scene and the sad part is that not only did the animation blow, I really was looking forward to a Spielberg animated film but there was zero emotional involvement with any of the characters. But I don't include TINTIN in the above list because it's not trying to sell it's self based on a serious subject. But when he's on... Man. He's one of my favorite directors of all time. JAWS, Raiders of the Lost Ark (Only the first one, NONE of the other crap fests.), Close Encounters of the Third Kind, and yes, I think A.I. is a fucking beautiful film as well... And I quite enjoyed MUNICH. Those are more recent examples that it is still possible for Spielberg to rock. But VERY recent examples are horrendous - TINTIN & WAR HORSE, the excruciating 4th Indiana Jones movie, the excruciating and pointless "everyone but Tom Cruise and his kin die" War of the Worlds remake... And I'm a sucker for John Williams because he's one of my favorite composers so I'm always double excited to see Spielberg and Williams in action... Was very very let down with WAR HORSE. I really thought they'd rock it.
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Feb. 25, 2012, 9:02 p.m. CST
I wonder if Sylvester Stallone and Speilberg are closer friends than we know
by kabookieslap
As here Joe Spinelle is Spielberg's good friend and he was also Stallone's close friend. I think they were best friends as well.
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One day, after he's long gone, people will finally come around on him and realize that he wasn't just a soulless machine cranking out hits, but someone with real cinema in his blood. Only in the last few years have there been serious critical studies on Spielberg's work, but they're only going to keep coming. Mark my words. <p><p> Also, in Quint's interview with him last summer, Spielberg said he felt that Nashville was the greatest picture Robert Altman ever made, so I think that's excitement in his voice.
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You are fucking clueless...it's about him not kissing enough ass in Hollywood and playing their games. Also being too successful and people being jealous. I'm sure he does play a lot of the games but not enough to get win the awards more. But fuck the awards and those petty voting motherfuckers. He has billions of dollars and makes good movies..that's all that counts.
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Must have been a blast to be him right about then. Or to be around him. I bet some of the hangers-on were hilariously annoying though. Not the guys in this clip, but just in general. Has anyone else seen the Snopes article about the Spielberg *Sneaking in to Universal studios and squatting in an office* story? http://www.snopes.com/movies/other/spielberg.asp They claim the story is false. I remember as a little kid reading about Spielberg doing this and thinking it was amazing. It inspired me into places and into opportunities to meet famous people that I would have never imagined possible. I find it hilarious that I was inspired by a possibly false story to do (comparatively minor) somewhat similar things. One of my favorites was basically relying on an air of confidence and *belonging right where I was* getting me backstage to meet Bowie in the 80s. I used these same techniques to acquire the keys to a local historical landmark, and turn it into my after-school coolest-ever hangout. I get the feeling that Snopes may be relying a little too much on testimony from people who actually might have been left in the dark by Spielberg himself in order to protect them. Read the article, you be the judge. But I like my Spielberg myths right where they are. Actually, all of those things could be true. He could have snuck (sneaked?) off the tour. He could have also been allowed on the lot due to his father for one day. AND he could have taken over an abandoned office right under their noses while he was working for free. None of them really negates the others, not really. It just casts doubt. It casts doubt on a story I desperately want to be true, so I could be biased. lol
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For a great dissection of why Spielberg isn't that good (or creative) a filmmaker, read this essay: http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/the_completist/2012/01/steven_spielberg_s_complete_movies_i_ve_seen_every_one_and_i_almost_wish_i_hadn_t.html And no, not THAT Bill Wyman.
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Did you see that shit World Trade Center movie got nominated for Best Picture? It is less than 50% on Rotten Tomatoes.. And Crash and Million Dollar Baby WON the fucking Academy Award for best picture and they are both shit films. I'm disgusted with the awards and not even going to watch this year..they mean nothing to me.
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Finally someone who agrees with me on A.I. Very underrated.
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Dude how can you say that E.T. is "not a good movie"? That is one of Speilberg's best. I saw it as a 15 y/o and blew my fucking mind at the time. Sure every bit of it doesn't hold up but have to give it credit. It is one of the most popular movies in history too...adjust box office for inflation and I think it's in the Top 5.
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Isn't it amazing how widely opinions vary on the films of Spielberg? See, I loved Munich. Agree with you on Saving Private Ryan and disagree with you about E.T. (although I did love it). But the one that gets hate that I just don't get, is Empire of the Sun. We're all divided. But I bet we all agree the man makes some great films.
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I actually agree with Creepy for once. Usually I want to seek him out and kick him in the balls, but he actually said something I agree with. Hmmm. I mean, HMMMM!! FACT!!! Ah, well, he's still a jackass.
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I always loved it, and thought it underrated, too, but I do wish those last 15-20 minutes were more Kubrickian and less Speildbergian.
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The other guy is none other than Frank Pesce who was recently in Tower Heist as the Rikers Prison Guard who let out Eddie Murphy's character (aka Slide). Pesce actually starred with Murphy in Beverly Hills Cop 1&2. The other guy in the Jaws shirt is Joe Spinell famous as Rocky's loan shark boss which BTW also featured Pesce as a spectator (uncredited Rocky 2). Found this trivia online as well... * Steven Spielberg originally wanted Joe Spinell and Frank Pesce to be the two guys on the dock fishing for the shark at night (Pesce as the guy who falls in the water and Spinell shouting to him). Unfortunately, Pesce couldn't make it to Martha's Vineyard. Evil Ed.
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I kept falling asleep. It's not bad or anything I guess, but man...it's just not very engaging at all.
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Feb. 25, 2012, 9:32 p.m. CST
Shakespeare In Love" One of the most forgettable Best Oscar pic wins since "Ordinary People
by Orionsangels
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Feb. 25, 2012, 9:34 p.m. CST
Joe Spinell passed on January 13th 1989 and sadly never got to see his friend Steven win best director.
by Orionsangels
Great actor!
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Yeah, lay it on me. She's actually 33 weeks pregnant with our third son, but have at it with that. I'll show her whatever you post. The nastier, the better (funnier). Her boobs have grown nicely and she's still skinny everywhere except her belly. I'm truly not worthy...
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Feb. 25, 2012, 10:02 p.m. CST
SO, SPIELBERG DOESN'T TRY TO MAKE OSCAR BAIT, HUH? LOL!!!!!!
by justmyluck
Obviously, no love of awards being espoused from The Beard. Ironically, Kubrick received three major nominations for BARRY LYNDON, while being *FAME-AVERSE*.
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...that THE HURT LOCKER took Best Picture in 2009. That was a very forgettable film...and probably should have come in as the 5th or 6th best picture of the year.
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Oy I still can't believe that happened...
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I defended The Hurt Locker back then. But you're right... ultimately it was forgettable. I didn't see it at the time that way. But I watched it again recently and was left wondering what the hell I was thinking.
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Holy lord, this is funny in one of those 1970's fake SNL documentaries sort of way.
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HAH!
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Feb. 25, 2012, 10:39 p.m. CST
This is why Snopes is full of shit. Spielberg confirms it himself
by kabookieslap
in this interview with John Favreau. Both he and Brian Grazer squatted. Spielberg at Universal only because he needed a bathroom, and Grazer at The WB because he needed the area code as the WB lot had it's own area code. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=R3Bi08uisos
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That film is exceptional....you penis breath
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it took that oscar for the exact reason that the Artist will take the same oscar over Hugo.
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I don't know, I was 9 when I read that novel and had no trouble understanding it! Read it the summer of, then saw the movie. Yeah, I was one of *those* kids :P But I do agree that the book was certainly superior. However, I feel Spielberg did the best job anyone could have done with a 2 hour time constraint, the budget they had, and the fact that CGI technology was in its infancy - in fact, they had to develop the first fully CG creatures (that is, convincing ones - the stain glass knight and the water effects in the abyss were not quite there), just to get the movie done. Thank GOD they didnt use stop-motion like they originally intended.
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After reading that, I am half-convinced that this Bill Wyman is just and alias for Crispen Glover, who wrote a piece that also really bashed the hell out of Spielberg. http://thecrispincorner.com/essay.html
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If David was played by Harrison Ford, it'd be a certifiable damned cult classic by now.
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Feb. 25, 2012, 11:14 p.m. CST
I just meant that *Spielberg* had kids foremost in mind with JP
by wcolbert
Crichton was writing for adults, I'll give you that. Even so, i enjoyed the book as a kid. Spielberg, on the other hand, knew full well that kids love dinosaurs, and he directed it from that standpoint. It never sat right with me that Hammond lives and Tim and Lex switch ages and a few key scenes never made it in...but still a wonderful movie for a kid or adult. Remember how you felt when you first watched it? I don't know about you, maybe you hated it even in 1993...but I think a lot of people loved it when it came out, had never seen anything like it...and then got jaded over the years.
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Feb. 25, 2012, 11:26 p.m. CST
Jurassic Park is one of those cases where I love that both the book and film are good
by lv_426
yet are also different enough from each other so as not to render one kind of irrelevant. It would have been fun to see what James Cameron would have done with Jurassic Park though. Supposedly he also bid on the rights for it back in the early 1990's. I imagine Cameron might have still went for a PG-13, but that a lot more of the geeky science stuff in the book would have made its way into the film. Also, can you imagine how different the park and the staff would have been like? Not that I am saying I'd rather have his version than Spielberg's JP, just that it would be interesting to be able to compare them both if we had a magical Delorean or phone booth that allowed us to hop into alternate universes or something.
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Too funny. She's still laughing after I explained everything. Thanks, dude. I wish some of the more depraved talk-backers were in on the joke. Thanks again, and let me know if you're ever in SoCal...
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Do they ever discuss the razzies at this site? Love those awards. 11 noms for Adam sandler ha ha.
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Feb. 25, 2012, 11:48 p.m. CST
Spielberg is f'ing great...don't see why people bash him so much
by Rupee88
He should have a lifetime pass from only Jaws or Close Encounters or ET or Radiers...put all those together and he gets a pass for many lifetimes. And he has directed some good or great films since then as well. Sure he's older and not at the top of his game now but no one is the same way they were when they were young and hungry and brilliant.
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Feb. 25, 2012, 11:58 p.m. CST
True, CG isn't *necessary* for a good movie, but I think it was necessary for the time
by wcolbert
The world had never seen a realistic dinosaur in a movie before. The best we'd seen up to that point had been what, the Valley of Gwanji? Which, for stop motion, was great, but at some point, people DO want to be able to sit in the theater and go "Oh...so THAT's what a real dinosaur looks like when it's not in my imagination!" I'm not sure how you can say the likes of Sir Richard Attenborough, Jeff Goldblum, Bob Peck (RIP), B.D. Wong, Sam Jackson, and Sam Neill are bad actors... agree to disagree, I guess. Hey, you are welcome to your opinion, as we all are, so meh. That movie shaped the childhoods of a great many dinosaur loving kids, and propelled many of the new generation of paleontologists and geneticists to do what they do. I'm now a Geology/Paleo major. In no small part because of the profound effect Crichton's book, Spielberg's movie, and of course the published work of Jack Horner (who I've since worked under on a dig in Montana) and Bob Bakker and Paul Sereno (who I've had the pleasure of talking to- all great guys and endlessly inspiring). Of course, I was infatuated with this stuff long before JP came out, but it added fuel to the fire! Love it or hate it, Jurassic Park shaped the face of cinema for generations to come.
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Feb. 26, 2012, 12:02 a.m. CST
JAWS is one of those cases where the movie blows the book outta the water. Literally.
by Cheif Brody
There are so, so many problems with Benchley's JAWS that the film smartly excluded...and vastly surpassed in so many ways. <p> Spielberg estimated, at the time, that there were 27 scenes in the JAWS script that were NOT in the book...and they axed 2 obnoxious subplots...Hooper having an affair with Brody's wife...and The Mob pressuring Mayor Vaghn to keep the beaches open at whatever cost. Seems Benchley saw how well Mario Puzo was doing with The Godfather, that he felt some mobsters might spice up his novel about a 25 ft killer Great White Shark eating defenseless swimmers. The adulterous affair was obviously slid in to add some sex into the story. Both completely unnecessary. <p> The BEST changes to a book ever: <p> Hooper surviving. In the book he bought it for his daliance with Ellen Brody, I suppose. Wise to let him live after he carried the comic relief in most of the film. <p> Quint's TWO stellar monologes. (Town Hall opener. Indianapolis story). <p> The TOWNSPEOPLE!! My God. Benchley barely paints a picture of Amity's inhabitants. JAWS, the movie, makes you feel like you know all of those 'paint happy bastards' by name. <p> The shark exploding at the end...instead of simply running out of steam and sinking like a pussy as it approaches Brody. <p> Smile, you sonofabitch! <p>
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Feb. 26, 2012, 12:03 a.m. CST
The director of Drive had the same reaction this year when he saw that War Horse was nominated for best picture
by Mel
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Feb. 26, 2012, 12:04 a.m. CST
rupee88, we bash him because he's capable of amazing things...but he likes to cater to morons
by Mel
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Feb. 26, 2012, 12:05 a.m. CST
JAWS was good...but what made it GREAT was Williams' score
by wcolbert
What would Jaws have been without the score? A big fake shark that was broken for much of the movie, and stock footage of great whites swimming. John Williams' score added a much needed energy to the tension and drama in the film, and ended up defining it. Who DOESN'T know the Jaws theme?
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So Jaws, Close Encounters, E.T., Jurassic Park, Raiders... those movies were catering to who exactly? Do those movies require a dazzling level of intellect to enjoy or understand? No. He doesn't cater to morons. He caters to specific demographics with each movie. With E.T., it was kids. With Schindler's List, it was obviously adults. With Raiders, it was a broader audience. You know, as much as people here like to throw pejoratives his way, people still hear the name "Spielberg" and many, many people go "Oh, Spielberg is making it? I can trust that it'll be good then!" The man is no slouch. He doesn't always break the mould, but he rarely misses the bar. His movies shaped HOW many millions of childhoods and people STILL think they have any room to berate him? Really?
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Nice to be included with you and Choppah and AsimovLives, even if I disagree with the latter more often than I agree with him nowadays =).
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If you had, you'd know that the "stock footage of great whites swimming" probably accounts for less than 5% of the movie. There are only three shots of stock footage I can think of in the entire movie. And they are: 1. A shark approaching the camera with a yellow rope in its mouth 2. A shark attacking a shark cage 3. A shark swimming away into the darkness That's about it. Just saying, there's more to JAWS than that. I know you're trying to build up John Williams' contribution, which was fantastic, but we don't need to embellish to do it. His work was enough.
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For Jaws, Raiders, E.T. and Empire, the 'Berg will always be the great one in my book. Now, if he could just stop making movies with weird, washed-out cinematography.
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As were the first forty-five minutes and Teddy. The flesh fair and many of the darker elements were Speilbergs addition....
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Feb. 26, 2012, 12:49 a.m. CST
wcolbert, Spielberg shaped childhoods, and George Lucas raped childhoods
by lv_426
maybe that should be a bumper sticker?
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LMAO.
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That is a fascinating watch indeed. A piece of JAWS history!
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We as the viewer are upset that Jaws is getting beaten out by "Barry Lyndon" and "Dog Day Afternoon." If only we could have such a problem in this day and age.
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Feb. 26, 2012, 1:35 a.m. CST
E.T. was not a good movie??? metal dominance is a fucking idiotic troll
by Billy_D_Williams
E.T. is a classic, and probably the best kids film ever made. And Schindler's List is no good? The ending is a cop out, but the film is firing on all cylinders up to that point.
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Jeebus. One of the all-time great classic metaphors for leaving childhood behind.
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What was so fascinating?
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JAWS, E.T., Close Encounters and Schindler's List. I like A.I. a Lot, but it's not one of his earlier works. Young Spielberg will always be my favorite director. I'd kill to see him make a young at heart film again. But by his ow admission, it'll probably never happen.
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Feb. 26, 2012, 2:12 a.m. CST
I consider Spielberg's first seven years to have five masterpieces
by D.Vader
Close Encounters of the Third Kind- his movie about spirituality JAWS- his movie about terror Raiders of the Lost Ark- his movie about adventure E.T. - his movie about love
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Saving Private Ryan was undone by a VERY poor ending and a mixed bag of hollow soldier characters throughout the center of the film. It's opening scene is amazing and the battle at the end is great up until the coincidence of the guy Hanks let go ultimately killing Hanks and ultimately getting shot by Opem. And for all the assholes on this site that crucify Star Trek for it's coincidence of Kirk running into Spock on Delta Vega, you can't say the Saving Private Ryan coincidence is believable in any way. Plus the old man scene at the end is dreadful. Shakespeare in Love was the more solid film. However, Spielberg got the Oscar for Director which I agreed with. However again, Malick's "The Thin Red Line" was also the better WW2 and overall film that year as well. Malick got screwed that year as he does every year.
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And "Raiders" of course. 5 Masterpieces in his career.
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Can't always rely on Snopes. A lot of the time, yes. But I think they make a habit of tagging things *false* in big bold strokes when they don't have all the facts, or when it's one person's word against another and they just pick a side. Hilarious.
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Feb. 26, 2012, 2:22 a.m. CST
In honor of choppah going over the deep end by having Tyler Perry the subject of Fudgepack Friday, I am bringing back Does She Swallow Sunday? to balance things out
by lv_426
This is sort of a two-fer-one Black History Month / Star Trek edition as well. Although, I am mixing black and white here as well as Trek to cover all bases both cultural and geektastic, sort of a cookies and cream edition with a cherry on top if you can dig it. I assume this is not a problem since in the utopian future imagined by Gene Roddenberry (who was a womanizer during his heyday if you weren't aware), racism probably doesn't exist. Ready folks? Here goes... Uhura -- Nichelle Nichols. That Green Orion chick from AbramsTrek -- played by the voluptuously delicious Rachel Nichols. Do they swallow, or do they spit? Discuss this if you are tired of pissing and moaning about the John Carter trailer. Unless you are Sulu, which in that case you're probably still more interested in whether or not Tyler Perry takes it in the rear shuttle bay.
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His first seven years produced more masterpieces than any other consecutive series in his career. The only wrench in that theory in 1941. Had that not existed, he'd have 4 masterpieces IN A ROW. Imagine that. As for his later works, I have an affinity for his Running Man Trilogy, Minority Report, A.I., and Catch Me if You Can. I also enjoy his post ALWAYS output- Hook, Jurassic Park, Schindler's List, Saving Private Ryan, Amistad, and The Lost World.
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The only emotional resonance I got from Shakespeare in Love was a couple of giggles that only people with a fleeting knowledge of Shakespearean history could appreciate. I haven't had any reason to see it more than twice in my lifetime. If I come across it on TV I flip to the next channel without a second thought. If I come across Saving Private Ryan, I stop and watch it all the way. That, my dear talkbackers is my criteria for a good, if not great movie.
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Feb. 26, 2012, 3:08 a.m. CST
And Judi Dench winning the Oscar for 2 minutes of screen time?
by slder78
Fuck you, but no. She deserves an Oscar, but not for that movie. That's ridiculous.
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My fave Spielberg movie. Jaws however, fucks Citizen Kane in the ass everynight for the best American movie ever made.
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Son of a bitch, I'm 30 and my FIRST movie hasn't been made yet!
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the combinatation of Richard Dreyfus, John Goodman, fire-fighting, mountains, ghosts, and aviation was perfect, for me at least.
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how can some of you hate on that film, and its director? Fantastic film-making. 'Nuff Said.
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1. Swallow. 2. Also swallow.
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How his friend George would get screwed by the academy the following year...
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Spielberg's last comment was exactly right. The Oscars and other awards consider what paying most cinemagoers like to see as artistically inferior to little-seen niche movies. The only thing they deem lower than box-office success is the sci-fi/fantasy genre.
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Frank Pesce was the other guy in the video you might remember him from Beverly hills cop when he was negotiating the cigarette deal in the backof the truck from the beginning of the
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And Shakespeare in Love is a better all round film than Saving Private Ryan. Still just about the best screenplay I ever read. Ryan had a GREAT opening, but the rest of the clichéd, turgid mess does not hold up to repeat viewings. AI is a good film that is great at times. Hayley Joel should have won an Oscar for his acting. One of the best child performances I can think off. Close Encounters is the best Speilberg film.
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Feb. 26, 2012, 6:11 a.m. CST
When Spielberg finally won for directing Schlinders List he said "is it wrong to say I really wanted this" during his acceptance speech
by ndally
So clearly it was important to him. I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting distinction amount your peers. He already was the most successful director in terms of box office in the history of Cinema. He just wanted to feel respected by hollywood for being more than a blockbuster summer tentpole director and he did that by earning the Oscar For Schlinders List and Saving Private Ryan. And A.I is severely underrated and I can't believe how many people dislike Munich. Munich is great. Mossad agents hunting down and killing asshole terrorists is a great story. Munich is brilliant.
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Spielberg is an example of Hollywood at both its best and its worst: when he just chills the fuck out and makes a movie (JAWS, CLOSE ENCOUNTERS, RAIDERS, JURASSIC PARK, E.T.), he usually knocks it out of the park. However, whenever he gets a severe case of "Oscar Ass" and tries to make one for the committee, he invariably comes up short. THE COLOR PURPLE, EMPIRE OF THE SUN, MUNICH and even SCHINDLER'S LIST just tried too goddamn hard. I think he resents the fact that his best work is making the world's tastiest popcorn movies ... but whenever he aims for more than that, his popcorn movie-sensibilities are magnified by an order of ten.</p><p> As for Beaks's insinuation that Spielberg had a spotless track record up until INDY IV, I gotta point out such misfires as HOOK, THE TERMINAL, AMISTAD, ALWAYS and the first and last five minutes of SAVING PRIVATE RYAN. As for the INDIANA JONES movies, he really should have stopped after RAIDERS and either let Lucas fuck up his other profitable franchise all on his own or hire some puppet to do it for him.
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Feb. 26, 2012, 6:37 a.m. CST
God, if only Spielberg had gotten nominated - Just think of the success he could have had!
by Dr_PepperSpray
The poor schmuck.
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Feb. 26, 2012, 6:37 a.m. CST
=Mossad agents hunting down and killing asshole terrorists is a great story=
by KilliK
ironically,you missed the entire point of the film.
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Sorry, that sex scene had me rolling. Talk about over the top.
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This is an interesting debate. No, it definitely wasn't wrong for Spielberg to pursue (or even want) an Oscar. The problem, though, is that his best work was made for US, not the Academy -- I submit that, when he's making Oscar bait, he's not really making Spielberg movies. It was clear from DUEL (and amped up to eleven in JAWS) that his greatest strength has always been audience manipulation, to take them on a ninety-minute amusement park ride based purely on what he composed on the screen. Few directors can do that, even with today's runaway budgets and CGI overload. For that alone, his "popcorn movies" should have garnered much more respect from his alleged "peers" than they did.</p><p> Unfortunately, he was forced to change his tune when he decided he was actually gonna pursue that Oscar. I don't count any of his "Oscar bait" movies as his, except THE COLOR PURPLE, where he was obviously trying to marry his sensibilities to a serious subject. When that didn't work, he stripped them of his famous tone and while he got what he wanted, none of those films (except maybe SCHINDLER'S LIST, for subject matter alone) are as memorable as those confounded "popcorn movies" that put him on the map.</p><p> I liked MUNICH just fine, but he completely lost me at the end when (and I knew it was coming the minute the setting changed to New York City) the camera holds on the fucking World Trade Center. Spielberg never met a button he didn't like to push.
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Hated it!
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The Oscars is a bullshit popularity contest and a massive political jerkoff. NOT an acknoledgement of artistic merit or integrity, and they've been that from day one. It still amazes me that anyone is still shocked when the better film fails to win over the popular one. One look only to Titanic as proof of this. That movie made a lot of people a lot of money so The Academy thanked it with the Best Picture Oscar. In every measurable sense, L.A.Confidential was a vastly superior film, but it sunk when it had the misfortune of being nominated against Titanic that year.
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Feb. 26, 2012, 9:18 a.m. CST
clavius: I love LA confidential but Titanic was the superior movie experience at Mann's Chinese.
by UltraTron
The entire theater erupted at the end shot where you visit the titanic grave underwater. It is the greatest eulogy movie of all time. That said- I believe LA Noir to be the best movie of last year. I always accidentally call it LA confidential. I can't yell at you for liking LA confidential more than Titanic. There's no question that Confidential is flawlessly executed. There's also no question that Titanic is a push the envelope epic of the highest order. Spielberg finally won the academy award by making a film about the Academy. That's how he had to do it.
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Feb. 26, 2012, 9:22 a.m. CST
Anyone that didn't like the first and last minutes of saving private Ryan needs to suck a wet turd out of a fresh cow corpse asshole.
by UltraTron
Mmmmm. Chew it mutherfucker.
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The first and last five minutes of SAVING PRIVATE RYAN were godawful. In fact, it felt like Spielberg was obligated to tack them on after a test screening in which World War II vets were having heart attacks while watching. The framing device was both unnecessary and mind-bogglingly cheesy, even considering that it came from the same director who milked fifteen minutes of unapologetic pathos from Scatman Crothers kicking a fucking tin can.</p><p> "Have I earned this?" No, Spielberg, not this time.
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Great director. But sometimes with bland movies. Cf. Minority Report, Amistad, The Lost World and A.I.
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Like. Uh. Ya know that line that Tom Hanks says to Matt Damon at the end? Yeah. Like that ties in with the beginning and end scene and stuff. Yeah. So you can thank me later for increasing your awareness.
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That was my favorite quote from the review.
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He was the Cigarette Buyer in Beverly Hills Cop 1 and 2.
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one of the most graphic and realistic killings in film history. Done digitally by ILM. They had to match a digital naked woman to that chick and run blood liquid simulations and then comp those on to her body. The result is some pretty disturbing shit. To the guy who laughed during the sex scene. I can totally see that happening to release the tension and misery of that scene. I wish I could have laughed at that
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Which won Best Picture of 1989 (same producers as Jaws - Richard Zanuck and David Brown), and the Academy failed to recognize it's director, Bruce Beresford. Also, Frank Darabont wasn't nominated for The Shawshank Redemption. James L. Brooks wasn't nominated for As Good As It Gets. Happens all the time.
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Feb. 26, 2012, 10:22 a.m. CST
Let me just say I thought "The Thin Red Line" was the best film that year.
by notcher
Shakespeare in Love or Saving Private Ryan? I liked Malick's film better than both.
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You are right on, happens all the time. "Driving Miss Daisy" winning Best Picture was BS! Much better movies that year than that one.
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Feb. 26, 2012, 10:36 a.m. CST
Little would he know, but later-on he'd find the Oscars for what they are;
by david starling
A complete bloody farce!! Chariots of Fire thrashed Raging Bull, but who remembers some shitty flick with Nigel Havers in it? Likewize, the Artist will take everything today, but how many people here have seen it, or are counting on seeing it? Thought so.
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Coffee=Coke Tea=Heroin Ahh the 70's. Hey at least I can watch this and say my tv is like five times bigger than the guy who directed Jaws' tv.
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Feb. 26, 2012, 10:53 a.m. CST
That some weird grammar in my last post, what with the Jaws', but I think it's correct.
by phifty2
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Feb. 26, 2012, 11:49 a.m. CST
I knew Joe Spinell was buddies with Caroline Munro, but had no idea he was friends with Spielberg!
by The Reluctant Austinite
I got to talk to Caroline Munro about her friendship with Joe Spinell a couple of years ago. They were in three or four movies together almost back to back. If I had seen this clip before then, I would have asked her if she had any Spielberg stories that she had heard from Joe. Great clip!
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Feb. 26, 2012, 1:19 p.m. CST
Spinnel is the "You wanna bust my chops, take it outside.." in TAXI DRIVER, right?
by BenBraddock
Still don't know what that means, but I love quoting it. Come to think of it, doesn't he deliver the "Take her to the zoo" line in ROCKY? Another favourite..
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I'm completely aware of what Tom Hanks says to Matt Damon towards the end of the movie. So was 99.9 percent of the rest of the audience. That's why I felt it wasn't necessary to drive it home with the finesse of a sledgehammer cracking open a baby's skull by including a pure pathos-shilling framing device with a bunch of old veterans visiting a grave. The movie was completely pure and strong all on its own; it didn't need to pander in order to achieve what Spielberg was trying to accomplish. It would have been akin to having a framing device in APOCALYPSE NOW where an elderly version of Martin Sheen's character shows up at the Chief's grave, laid down some flowers with a shaky hand, whispered "I got back in the goddamn boat" and Fourth of July fireworks went off overhead while a marching band played the coda to "The End" and tears welled up in the elderly Sheen character's eyes.
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It has some weakness(not a fan of Upham's sudden change after shooting steamboat willie, no black people, no other allies, etc.)but damnit beard, you win. Yes, its not perfect. But seeing WWII presented like that(and veterans gave it their approval)after decades of "too clean" movies(Longest Day, Sands of Iwo Jima, et al.)was fascinating.
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Again, 99.9 percent awesome film. In fact, for Spielberg, it was probably even more impressive than either SCHINDLER'S LIST (where the subject matter was pretty much impossible NOT to get a reaction from) or SAVING PRIVATE RYAN, where the focus was more on making the most technically proficient and well-staged war movie ever than on the somewhat typical storyline -- it was just Spielberg and a camera, not many tricks, just telling a goddamn adult story (in this case, a thriller). But he can't resist reaching for those goddamn buttons, like the aforementioned sex scene or (at least, to me), that fucking end shot of the WTC. I guess it goes back to my original point, which was, Spielberg makes audience movies, always has, and while over-directing something to keep the audience on the edge of their seats with RAIDERS and/or JURASSIC PARK is not only warranted, but proven to be a big plus, it almost has the opposite effect when trying to direct something "serious" or "sublime".</p><p> However, if "they should've cut out the old dudes in SAVING PRIVATE RYAN" or "next time you steel yourself to shoot an R-rated sex scene, maybe watch some Zalman King first!" are the worst things you can pick out of somebody's cinematic work, they're still doing heads-and-shoulders above the next guy.
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Oh, without a doubt, save for my one major complaint, SAVING PRIVATE RYAN was otherwise one of the best war movies ever made, and definitely the best World War II movie ever made. In fact, only Spielberg had the clout and the vision to make it, which only causes Lucas and his ongoing waste of resources to look worse.
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It's a kiddie flick. I don't like kiddie flicks. But to whoever said it... You are totally correct. We all may disagree on what films rock or suck that Spielberg has made but we probably ALL have at least one film of his in our top 10. And to whoever keeps praising Saving Ryan's Privates and E.T. the Extra Testicle - Duh! Of couse veterans cried when seeing SPR. But that's because of what they brought to the film. It wouldn't have mattered WHAT the film is... You get a bunch of people together who all went through something traumatic and play up on the emotionalism and you are going to get that reaction. It's called overtly manipulating people. E.T. sucks because it's pointless and a kiddie flick. How come, if E.T. can fucking LEVITATE SHIT and FLY... How come he doesn't just use those powers in the beginning and avoid all the chaos? Cuz it's a terrible film that needed an "awe" moment.
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Feb. 26, 2012, 1:56 p.m. CST
Don't get me wrong... I don't HATE Saving Private Ryan... I just think it's over rated and falls completely apart. Great beginning though.
by MENTALDOMINANCE
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He never got a role in his movies.
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At the time SS was trying to and had accomplished something that had never been done in a film. You could tell he was pissed about not getting the special fx nod as much as the director one. Problem was he'd agreed to do that movie for a smallish fee... as he was unproven, his points were likely quite low too, so he wasn't going to make huge money from it. It seems to me from that the Director nod would have been the validation he wanted to say he was going the right way. It turned out well, I mean had he won Best Director would he have made the same movies he did? I rewatched Third Kind today and you could tell he put EVERYTHING into that movie, even down to the Jaws theme. He deserved that nomination. Where he goes wrong is when he chills out as one person says and puts out a 1941 or Empire Of The Sun.
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He's still got that young geeky outsider vibe going for him there.. (And even with his own conspiracy theory too..LOL!) Thanks for posting it though. That was quite entertaining. He was right though. Jaws got robbed. Certainly Robert Shaw should have been considered..
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Although I'm glad I wasn't the only one to pick up on the Duchovnyness of the above clip!
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I'm tired of Neo-Confederates having control of Civil War discourse. Grant should be remembered like Eisenhower.
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Good stuff.
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I think Empire of the Sun is one of Spielberg's best films. It wasn't received as well as his others, but I think it will stand the test of time much greater than some of his bigger hits.
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How first-year film school of you. Really, could some of you be anymore pathetic sounding? It's not even real critiques, just excuses of why you shouldn't like his work. I remember when contrarians at least had some interesting viewpoints. Now you're as cliche as it comes...
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Feb. 26, 2012, 4:53 p.m. CST
gotilk snopes called B/S on two things that happened on the same night
by kabookieslap
I was recording the local news on the people waiting for the 12:05 am showing of Phantom Menace (Before we knew it was going to suck) and two things that are now for some stupid reason labeled urban legend happened and were reported on the news with actual at the location newscast coverage. One is the Chihuahua that looked like the Taco Bell Chihuahua that was star of the commercials at that time. A woman had her Chihuahua on his lap and was going through a McDonald;s drive through when she opened her door and fell out, and the dog was still inside. She just had her foot on the break and the car started rolling. The dog got up on it's hind legs and steered the car across a few lanes of traffic and into a Taco Bell Parking lot that was across the street. That was fact as they showed mcDonalds Security camera and interviewed the woman. But snopes said it is Urban Legend. Also the same day was when they were fighting the forest fire on the coast and one of those big dropping water planes had to get more water so it scooped up water from the ocean near by and accidentally scooped up a guy scuba diving. he was dropped with the water on the fire and firemen found his body. That happened on the same day and they had the news cameras there to interview the forest firefighters who found him. distinctly remember the long shot of the scuba gear on the ground and the body being zipped up in a body bag. But snopes has said for the longest time that they were full of crap. But ironically they happened on the same day and i have them on tape somewhere in storage.
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1. Raiders 2. Jaws 3. Close Encounters 4. Jurassic Park 5. Always
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Feb. 26, 2012, 11:29 p.m. CST
THANKS FOR REMINDING ME THAT KUBRICK NEVER WON AN OSCAR
by shalashaska
special effects dont fuckin count
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You're citing ALWAYS as the fifth best movie Spielberg has EVER made? LOL.
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Feb. 27, 2012, 12:28 a.m. CST
Saving Private Ryan wasn't very good...there, I said it
by JacksParasites
I'll say it again. Saving Private Ryan wasn't very good. It wasn't even the best WWII film of that year, an honor belonging to The Thin Red Line. And here's a list of other films that year, 1998, that were better than Saving Private Ryan: The Big Lebowski Out of Sight Run Lola Run Rushmore Rounders American History X The Truman Show Dark City Pi Pleasantville The Siege Following Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
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Never knew Spielberg was such a gigantic, worthliess prick. Won't think of him the same again. Excuse me now, I'm off to send him brochures on euthanasia.
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(This got long. Having to post in multiple parts, so that the damn word count doesn't screw up the post) Hit "post" sooner than I meant to. Wanted to add... I am sure that most people will disagree with me (even though I'm 100% right) and will think I am just looking for attention, etc., but this is legitimately how strongly I feel about the topic: It is articles like this that blow me away. How can ANYONE look at the movies listed here and have much positive to say about him? Seriously, it's a lot of worthless films under his name. For example, the following movies (in no particular order) are pathetic pieces of crap and people just can't seem to accept it (or more likely, they never saw them, and are just making their opinions on the delusions of someone else who never saw them, who made their opinion based on the delusions of a mentally retarded studio employee who liked the movie: Saving Private Ryan, E.T., Empire Of The Sun (anyone who likes this is an imbicle!), Schindlers List and War Horse. I haven't seen TinTin, so I can't judge it. As for Lincoln, how the hell can you have high hopes for it. The biggest flaw is what people seem to think is a plus: Daniel Day-Lewis. Go look at his career at IMDB. Back? OK, now how can someone who has had one (1) good film in his life (Gangs Of New York) get any praise? His failure rate is like 95%. But back to Spielberg. Since we're at IMDB already, let's look at his career. I'm only going to go through the producer and director credits, though and leaving out the cartoons (all Pinky & The Brain/Tiny Tunes/Animaniacs shows are great, as you all know). 17 production credits were good (out of 130. And admittedly, 6 of those were films that are guilty pleasures that really aren't good movies, but I like them. 2 others are TV series) and 4 movies he directed didn't suck hamster balls.
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And yet these movies get praise?! (not a complete list): Land Of Iwo Jima, Flags Of Our Father, Munich, Memoirs Of A Geisha, Band Of Brothers, A.I., Fandango, True Grit, Amistad, The Lost Children of Berlin (OK, I only know one person who talks about this movie, but his love for it annoys me), Cape Fear (borderline of good/bad I admit), Always, War Of The Worlds (OK, it's mostly panned), Indiana Jones 2-4 and Minority Report. And then there is the list of admittedly bad or mediocre/forgettable movies he's been involved with: Cowboys & Aliens, any of the Transformers movies, pretty much every holocaust movie he has made (I am not doubting their significance. Just his handling of them is fucked up), Men In Blacks, Balto, 3 O'clock High, Innerspace, Jurrasic Parks 2 & 3 (surely 4 will make this list as well, and half of #1 sucks), Batteries Not Included, Harry & The Hendersons, Used Cars.... Last but not least, while I know he was only the Producer of the movie, how the hell do you screw up a movie for The Lovely Bones??? Really, people, it's OK to tell the truth: Spielberg isn't that special.
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Feb. 27, 2012, 4:18 a.m. CST
That other not-the-Rolling-Stone Bill Wyman dude who wrote that article must be the Bill Wyman without any talent. He's a critic after all.
by Mr. Pricklepants
The real Bill Wyman should sue his ass.
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Im sure somebody pointed this out already, but wasn't he in Rocky II?
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Feb. 27, 2012, 6:27 a.m. CST
aceldama: Daniel Day-Lewis has made only one good movie? In what alternate universe is that?
by Mr. Pricklepants
You are either a gigantic troll or you don't know what you're talking about. Because Daniel Day-Lewis made lots of good movies. Here's one (you might have heard of it): THERE WILL BE BLOOD He won an Oscar for it, remember?
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Feb. 27, 2012, 7:34 a.m. CST
motoko kusanag - Always is a outstanding. It's pointless crediting Speilberg for The Colour Purple, SPR, Schindler's List, becuase they are simply not all that great in their execution, I credit Speilberg for films he is brilliant at, not those he attempt
by AllThosePowers
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Was a pimp and apparently in the know during the 70s. He was pals with Coppola, Spielberg, and Stallone.
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Feb. 27, 2012, 12:19 p.m. CST
acldama: Uhh.. Spielberg didn't even direct Letters from Iow Jima (Great movie) nor Flags of our Fathers (okay but not great movie).
by MENTALDOMINANCE
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Feb. 27, 2012, 12:22 p.m. CST
Also "benn involved with" means PRODUCED and all that means is he put the cash up for it. OTHER people made it.
by MENTALDOMINANCE
Like how Tony and Ridley Scott have SCOTT FREE PRODUCTIONS. Just because something comes from the Scott Free production house doesn't mean Ridley or Tony had anything to do with it. It's just a production company they own. Same with any movie with Spielberg as producer.
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Feb. 27, 2012, 12:23 p.m. CST
And The Lovely Bones sucked because Peter Jackson has NEVER MADE a decent movie and never will. Jackson directed it... Not Spielberg. Idiot.
by MENTALDOMINANCE
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Feb. 27, 2012, 12:25 p.m. CST
Do you even know the difference between a producer and a director?!?!
by MENTALDOMINANCE
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Yeah I'm sure there was a bit of piss in his vinegar, but he knows damn well that he made a B movie about a rubber fish eating naked girls.
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...is a fucking idiot.
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...think Joss Whedon hung the fucking moon.
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Feb. 27, 2012, 5:55 p.m. CST
Spielberg doesn't suck, but some of his most recent movies do.
by hank henshaw
Kingdom of the Crystal Skull being the worst offender. Still, that man gave us Close Enconters, Jaws, E.T., Schindler's List, Raiders and the other 2 Indys, Jurassic Park (hell, even Lost World. I like dinosaurs, sue me), Color Purple, Munich, Saving Private Ryan, and produced a whole lot of cool flicks in the 80's.
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Feb. 27, 2012, 11:39 p.m. CST
AWESOME. ALWAYS WONDERED WHAT KIND OF GUYS SPIELBERG RAN WITH. THOSE REGULAR JOES HE'S WITH ARE HILARIOUS.
by Buck Turgidson
Anyone know who those two are?
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Feb. 28, 2012, 4:31 a.m. CST
Buck...Review the update and the previous remarks...and you will know who Jaws shirt is, at least... and by the way everyone...Spinell is correct
by Longtime Lurker
Best Picture and Best Director most often should be the same production. "Who directed the film...the shark?" Classic. :)
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