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A Fan-Made Trailer For JOHN CARTER Sells The Movie Better Than Any Other Trailer So Far...
Nordling here.
I'm dying to see this movie, but it's because I know where JOHN CARTER comes from and how much so many other movies over the years have strip-mined those stories for their own. Edgar Rice Burroughs' books are classics of the genre and well worth the read, and I know fans of the books are chomping at the bit to see this.
I want JOHN CARTER to succeed, if for nothing else that we get more of them. Although everyone's embargoed (and I haven't seen it myself) the general vibe I've gotten from screenings has been positive to very positive. This fan-made trailer seems to do what the official ones have not - sell the legacy of the stories as well as show how good the story is. I like this trailer a lot, and Disney could do worse than just buy this trailer cut from this guy and release it. Here's the trailer:
JOHN CARTER opens March 9th.
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is a trailer that can sell a movie.
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Feb. 21, 2012, 5:08 p.m. CST
There we go! NOW we're back into the 'every other article is about John Carter' swing!
by Jaster Mareel
I knew you wouldn't let me down!
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Are we sure this isn't some kind of plant? Some of that footage looks brand new.
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Period.
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Feb. 21, 2012, 5:11 p.m. CST
It's better I guess, because it's a bit more linear...
by Jaster Mareel
But shit in, shit out, ya know?
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A few $ in the back pocket of AICN sells this movie better than any reviews so far... Actually that trailer WAS better. But that isn't fucking hard in this case. *I told you he could jump* thanks to Taylor whatshisname this thing still has the reek of AOTC and 10,000BC about it - bland leading man = no glory.
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An excellent trailer that runs 2 and a half mins, shows a heck of a lot yet doesnt appear to spoil anything major, now THAT is skill. All that's needed now is for the movie to live up to it, and be the movie advertised!
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a man can jump. Really, really fucking far.
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the movie WILL bomb, that is a fact. campy action, linear storyline i've seen 100 times through, a shitty actor that doesn't look like he can do half the stuff he supposedly does in the movie. just because Star wars was raped into the mud, doesn't mean we have to jump the si-fi bandwagon, because lets face it this is the movie they "hope" will be the nest LOTR or Star Trek...
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and i rest my case, oh yeah and Spiderman movie will suck too.
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That line alone is pure awesomeness. Great job on the trailer whoever did this.
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Feb. 21, 2012, 5:31 p.m. CST
HOLY FUCK!!!!!! THAT'S AMAZING.A LOT BETTER THAN DISNEY'S LACKLUSTER TRAILERS.
by KilliK
GOOD JOB GUYS.
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It's not "fan" made
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Feb. 21, 2012, 5:32 p.m. CST
This movie should bomb pretty largely...looks like Prince of Persia and no one knows who John Carter is
by Mel
These are the facts and they are undisputed.
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Feb. 21, 2012, 5:35 p.m. CST
Fan-made or not, it looks great. But I keep getting the vibe that Disney is giving this the "Return to Oz" treatment
by Jet Jaguar
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It's clear that nobody has responded well to the title/posters/trailers for this film. Time to re-insert "of Mars" into the title, slap it onto that mondo poster and whip up as many spots like this one here...and get it all out there NOW
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....he got some of it from the Japanese trailer and the Disney Channel kiddie-promo
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Feb. 21, 2012, 5:39 p.m. CST
Uh...it spoils the entire movie - NOT fan made, studio made
by Jonathhan Kana
I mean cmon, it has every beat of the movie in it except for how it ends. John Carter starts out in the real world. no one can find him. we see he used some magic shit and went to another time. we see he is confused there, but comes upon a nice alien who takes him in and introduces him to his family. meets "the girl that he likes". also meets the evil human bald dude. he learns about himself, but doesnt believe it. aliens die, shit happens. carter thinks he could have done more and feels guilty. more training and small battles against the bad guys. his comic relief fat animal alien friend is with him for the ride. he finally believes in himself and what he is meant to do and people around him truly believe final battle and shit. the fucking end. ITS THE FUCKING MATRIX BEAT BY BEAT
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Feb. 21, 2012, 5:43 p.m. CST
no one else sees how this is The Matrix journey that Neo took?
by Jonathhan Kana
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...still a hell of a lot better than the other trailers.
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It's not The Matrix, it's Avatar! No...wait...it's Atlantis The Lost Empire! No, hold it... Nice trailer, though. Hope it does well.
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.. for it to say somewhere other than in the small print that Edgar Rice Burroughs, you know the creator of "Disney's" Tarzan, had something to do with John Carter? I am not knocking this fan trailer. It was actually really good.
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I still don't buy the guy playing Carter. From all the book covers and posters to Frazettas art he looks like some model man-boy to please the tweeny market. In fact I think he used to be an underwear model. Nice casting Disney!! Other than that, please put Of Mars back in the title and you will have a great sci fi fantasy epic to franchise!
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The epic tale that was inspired by "Lieutenant Gullivar Jones: His Vacation" and in turn inspired 100 years of filmmaking! :)
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Nicely done. Kudos.
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Everything in there has appeared somewhere before. It's the guys over at thejohncarterfiles. It's clearly rough in some spots if you look and listen closely. Still puts the Disney shit to shame though. I can only imagine if this guy had some raw footage to work with.
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Like MI:4, it's going to be good. Everyone whining based just on badly-cut trailers, have some freaking faith.
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Feb. 21, 2012, 6:01 p.m. CST
Can Hollywood make a scifi film that doesn't end with a big battle scene?
by gary_buseys_upper_half
How about mystery? How about surprise? How about some...I don't know...AWE maybe. I know this is based on a classic book series that's been the inspiration for countless films, but therein lies the problem. Could we maybe have NEW stories that we don't already know every beat of before we walk into the theater?
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Feb. 21, 2012, 6:03 p.m. CST
Uses standard cliche Hollywood trailer formula very well...
by ufoclub1977
Where has the inventive teaser trailer mentality gone? Or the use of an intriguing scene? I realize some people are still using it. I am really sick of the typical edit and music beats of most EVERY typical mainstream trailer. It's so standard and predictable that it's repulsive.
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to do this, and make it rated R. Then this would be one of the best kick ass films of all time. The way it stands....sigh. fuck disney.
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It takes no talent to put together scenes an entire fucking crew has filmed and created effects and music for. All the work has been done and some pip shit thinks he's an editor or filmmaker. Create your own shit, losers.
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he's used their property, somehow gotten hold of unreleased footage, and edited it. sure, its a good trailer but it's THEIR footage. and he may have used it/gotten it illegally. if anything, he's getting a call from their lawyers, not their recruiters.
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You're wrong! The making of trailers is an art. A trailer can, sometimes, make or break a movie as you are witnessing with John Carter right now!
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and I am one of them there are people who dont liked to teased. so hollywood caved into the people who wanted everything now... that is why you get trailers with the whole movie in it... oh and by the way there is sod all directors can do about that. their lack of power is really remarkable.... accept cameron.... gone abit quiet for king cameron....
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PLANT!PLANT!PLANT!PLANT!PLANT!PLANT!
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Just how much bling is Disney throwing your way??
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JOHN CARTER will bomb or do well on the quality of the released film. A big opening weekend obviously helps, but box-office legs are way more important. Let's not forgot: TITANIC and AVATAR had fairly pedestrian opening weekends, but people liked them and they kept going and going, and the word of mouth got other people going. Now they're the top two grossing movies off all time both domestic and worldwide, by a LOT. I think MISSION IMPOSSIBLE: GHOST PROTOCOL is a good barometer also. A Pixar director's first live action film. The buzz before the movie? Not so good. The buzz after it was released? Huge! I can't remember the last time a movie had that kind of word of mouth. I liked all three MISSION IMPOSSIBLES just fine, but the word on GHOST PROTOCOL (especially the tower sequence) was hard to ignore so I went to an IMAX showing and loved it. And then I went again.
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i just hope the movie deals with carter's confederacy connection appropriately - it looked like he was being chased by other grey coats - maybe he deserted
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I mean, how hard can it be to cut a cool-as-fuck trailer to JOHN CARTER?
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Feb. 21, 2012, 6:36 p.m. CST
it's better because the cuts are so fast you can't see how lame the cgi looks...
by Simpsonian
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Feb. 21, 2012, 6:37 p.m. CST
im sure all the idiots that hope this bombs saw avatar more than once
by JimmyJoe RedSky
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Feb. 21, 2012, 6:38 p.m. CST
Now, hold on a minute! We can't have people thinking the film could actually be fun! Or that there's any significance at all to the source material! Keep this nonsense up, and someone might actually care about the film, or even want to see it!
by kevred
Talk about your irresponsible marketing! Leave it to the professionals, who are highly skilled at making everything look the same, like lukewarm gruel.
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Feb. 21, 2012, 6:39 p.m. CST
nothing sells a movie like using a song from the Godzilla soundtrack.
by Bouncy X
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I've never seen so much love for a movie that no one has seen yet. Especially on this site. Hmmmm....
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EXCELLENT piece of work, right there. Too cool. I have to agree, Disney should be running this ~ further, they should hire the guy who cut it together!
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All the usual Internet peeps saying good things...now, Disney....wake up and let them write their full reviews
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I've never read the John Carter stories so I may be missing some subtleties to the presentation, but this doesn't seem to introduce me to the setting and characters appreciably better than the official Disney marketing has. I tip my cap to the fan's effort though: putting together something like that is a labor of love and takes a ton of work, I'm sure.
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Feb. 21, 2012, 6:46 p.m. CST
Here's a fantastic fan-made trailer of TRON by way of comparison
by Frisco
It's a bit unfair to compare this fan-made trailer to the original 80s trailer, given how many advancements have been made in Trailer Science in the last 30 years: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp2gGqgn3Fw . Such a great job by the fan though!
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Feb. 21, 2012, 6:55 p.m. CST
God that's so linear, takes away all mystery of the plot. Trailer for simpletons!
by CeejayNightwing
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Feb. 21, 2012, 6:59 p.m. CST
I don't see anything that special about this trailer. It's similar to the one from Disney.
by Orionsangels
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Feb. 21, 2012, 7:01 p.m. CST
@bouncy x - God you kids know nothing, it's a song called Kashmir by Led Zeppelin from the 70's, not some Godzilla P Diddy cover-rip off!
by CeejayNightwing
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Feb. 21, 2012, 7:07 p.m. CST
It's not even P Diddy...it's by some chick band called Bond
by WONKABAR
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Feb. 21, 2012, 7:08 p.m. CST
Isn't It Funny How A Little Editing Can Make A Big Difference
by Real Deal
I think this film will succeed! The thing you get from these scenes is this movie has heart. And that will sell it better than anything. I want this movie to do well also Harry. I read these books over 30 years ago and have been waiting a long time to for a film do them justice.
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Bullshit.
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Brilliant trailer whoever did that!
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Wow! That made Tron look really cool. Like, if that were a new movie I'd run out and see it. Since we're on a JC thread, you reminded me of this... Tron Carter http://tinyurl.com/77q37td
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Feb. 21, 2012, 7:17 p.m. CST
Another amateur that captures the spirit better in one quick sketch with more "life" than the pros
by maskedmagician
http://www.youtube.com/user/toolmaker3417?feature=chclk Watch the VIDEO "DEMONSTRATION OF JOHN CARTER" of for that matter take a look at the Frazetta style illustrations on the page itself! Amazing anatomy and caricature and I should know--I went to art school for two days.... seriously why not hire these people?
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that keeps me from starring in my own series of midget porno sci-fi VR movies.... ... my mind holds the key.... Great trailer though.
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Feb. 21, 2012, 7:55 p.m. CST
looks like more of the same low I.Q. run of the mill CGI horse shit
by cgih8r
but there's plenty of teenagers and adult half wits to make this film successful and I'm sure disney knows that. Even Green Lantern was successful enough for them to green light a sequel. I know I'm being snobbish right now but I'm so sick of seeing the same old uninspired formulaic crap being pushed out of hollywood's sphincter.
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I predict this movie will tank along the lines of Pluto Nash.
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Buddy this story was written 100 years ago. So most of the stuff you're talking about was copied from this storyline! Now if you don't like Science Fiction ( especially classic SF ) why the fuck are you doing commenting on this movie at all? Jesus!
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if this movie ends up to be a commercial disaster,the aftershocks will be devastating in the Hollywood industry,the film-making process,the treatment and the freedom of the artists,the promotion of original and fresh ideas and the survival of the epic pulp/scifi fantasy genre itself. If Avatar proved that you can make great intelligent and emotional and highly successful epic pulp/scifi fantasy movies,then a potential BO disaster of JC will kill for good this aroused interest of the studios to invest on projects of this kind. WE NEED JC TO SUCCEED NO MATTER WHAT.
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It may very well bomb for all I know, but I for one think it looks like a barrel of fun. Just because an embittered bunch of haters all cheesed off because their genitals are too sore to fiddle with because they overdid it while watching reruns of Star Trek Next Gen haven't heard of it, doesn't mean people can't learn about something new! Or rather, something new to them! So that people understand this, I'll put FACT at the end. FACT.
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Feb. 21, 2012, 8:25 p.m. CST
my biggest problem with this movie is JC himself.
by chronicallydepressedlemming
He's trying to talk with gravitas he just doesn't have and it comes off incredibly hammy. The battle speech stuff is just fucking lazy writing as well, but he makes it sound so much worse.
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Boy checks out John Carter book from library. So far he really seems to be enjoying it. Will update as the story progresses.
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Feb. 21, 2012, 8:34 p.m. CST
This is what you get when you don't have a conference room full of suits
by arcane1
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NOW THAT'S A TRAILER!
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Seriously. Why doesn't he/she have a job yet?
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what do people here deem as "cool" anymore? - "expendables"? - "fast & furious"? - "transformers"? - all crap - we need more epic sun lit colorful escapism like this - it appears audiences have become too cynical and jaded to generate much interest - i have some doubts too but this looks very cool - it looks like a good reason to wait in line at the movies
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I have been saying this for some time that the hope should be for success not failure. The twitter embargo is over everyone is loving this movie. Really hope it succeeds for pulp sake. I should be seeing it march 3 but may be not able to attend till 9th. Check out the IMAX poster they r giving out at midnight shows...awesome
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Prometheus is going to bring back a resurgence in quality sci-fi flicks. All that will happen when this film fails, and it will, is that they won't make the trilogy... New Disney bosses will blame the old Disney bosses. And the Marketing people that worked on this will likely keep their jobs, although they definitely should not.
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It's a 100 year old story
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Feb. 21, 2012, 9:19 p.m. CST
Even if it is original it looks like garbage. Why should we support a movie that looks like junk? So we can get more movies that look terrible?
by happybunni
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Don't care if this is the original to star wars and avatar. Ive seen this before and I don't care. It looks like endless mess of cg images and terribly melodratic acting sequences that are sure to bore. Enough is enough with the same cgi epic.
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Feb. 21, 2012, 9:52 p.m. CST
How much money is Disney paying AICN to promote this every day?
by Rupee88
I mean I guess there's nothing wrong with it but just getting old for your readers.
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The matrix and every other movie that supports that storyline is a ripoff of THIS. Are you stupid, that's what everyone is trying to say on this site. "the movie that inspired 100 years of filmmaking" brilliant line.
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from the actual studio trailers. They are very similar, though. Just goes to show that intuitive editing and an eye for timing can make a huge difference in a trailer
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... though this trailer seems drawn of the same template as so many others. At least in this case, it sells the movie better than anything else I have seen so far for it.
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to NOT go see this movie! I'll get it on a dodgy download or sumit. Look's utter shit.
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Feb. 21, 2012, 10:28 p.m. CST
Disney's trailers have been awful. This made me LIKE the guy and get into the story.
by Mr Nicholas
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This isn't a "fan" made trailer. And it's just as piss poor as the rest of thin. MAJOR bomb.
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It confirms for me that John is interesting on Earth, but once he's on Mars, they have no idea how to make him compelling.
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But certainly not because of the advertising. The yellow Disney logo on top of that boring yellow font makes me wince every time I see it. It just reminds of the bigger issue of the lost (or abandoned) art of film advertising. Just tell Struzan to paint it up and FEDEX it when it's done. Frackin' Photoshop posters by committee. A WASTE.
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Feb. 21, 2012, 11:15 p.m. CST
Does anyone get bored with this "hoping it bombs" nonsense
by Andrew Coleman
Don't understand people come on here going "For sure going to bomb" like they've won something. This movie actually looks pretty cool. The more I see people hating blindly the more I want to see it for some reason. We should support movies like this instead of bashing it and then going to see Transformers or some other shit. Look idiots are going to go see the garbage studios spill out, we should support the movies that take chances.
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So we can stop seeing it advertised or talked about on here because it looks like a terrible mix of Star Wars prequels, Avatar and Ghosts of Mars (that last one doesn't really fit that well But I unfortunately just rewatched it). I don't even care if other movies stole John Carter's ideas from the book, movie-wise this looks like an outright dud. If they were smart they would have paid James Cameron $100 million to pretend he directed it because apparently that means something to a lot of people who would watch dreck like this. Lets get it over with: Pros: Good special effects. Probably a few good/cool moments. Cons: Everything else as you walk out and forget it by the next day. Also, I am not above eating crow so please prove me wrong somehow movie gods. So far though, avoiding at all cost.
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Feb. 21, 2012, 11:18 p.m. CST
myphdisdoom I've never seen someone contradict themselves as fast as you did.
by Mel
This movie actually looks pretty cool. The more I see people hating blindly the more I want to see it for some reason.
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Anyway, above was your quote...my point was that you think it's ok for you to blindly like it but not ok for us to blindly hate it.
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Feb. 21, 2012, 11:47 p.m. CST
Why all the 'hate'? If you love, or even just like science fiction, you should be grateful films of this scale even get made!
by foles
Why the hate? I'm thinking because forums like this 'enable' the 'spectators' of the world to tear down and belittle the hard work of artists anonymously. But sadly such is the way of cowards!
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and the Andrew Stanton connection just makes it even more enticing. Just the fact that an EBR film is hitting the big screen is enough for now. You can only watch the 70s flicks like "Journey To The Center of the Earth" and "The Land That Time Forgot" so many times before you start wondering what EBR's stories would look like with modern film-making techniques behind them.
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Feb. 22, 2012, 12:09 a.m. CST
Hope the horrendous marketing by Disney hasn't already sunk this movie.
by Ted Knight
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Feb. 22, 2012, 12:29 a.m. CST
fantasy armies, rousing speeches, loyal pets, stranger takes control of planets destiny,
by mojination
prophesy, script made entirely out of broad statements and grand rhetoric. *sigh* i don't care if this story was the progenitor of epic sci fi fantasy, it's missed its chance. i'm over seeing the same trailers for the same films every year for the past 10 years.
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Feb. 22, 2012, 12:34 a.m. CST
"but Disney did its job getting everyone aware the movie was about to come out" What fantasy world was you living in?
by happybunni
That is highly laughable. It's more like they made everyone aware that this moving was about to come out and that they won't want to see it. You call that a success?
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I disagree. I think movie trailers have actually gotten better. I remember being super excited for Iron Man 2, Alice in Wonderland, and Clash of the Titans. Why? Because they made pretty darn amazing trailers. In this day and age it's really not difficult to make a good trailer that gets people in the seats. GI Joe 2 even looks pretty great because of the trailers. Disney's Marketing just fails on the trailer front and they need to REALIZE that. They have the power to cut something together that's amazing, but they can't seem to... So this deserves to fail so that they learn their lesson. Perhaps they won't fuck up so bad in the future. Sad that John Carter OF MARS has to pay the price, but it's their fault. This film was destined to fail since they dropped the OF MARS, and started marketing it as a CGI-fest without a story. They need to get their hands slapped or chopped off for messing this up, bad. Not only have they likely lost $200M on this movie, but they have also lost out on creating a successful franchise that makes bank.
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Feb. 22, 2012, 12:44 a.m. CST
If they wanted people to watch this, they had to do one simple thing.. MARKET IT CORRECTLY. Instead of stupidly
by happybunni
I'm sorry but honestly, all the pleas telling people to watch this movie.. Why in the world would they? Everything they have seen makes this film look bad. You are telling them to waste their money on something that looks bad, instead of something that looks good. That's a bit crazy and stupid to me.
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Feb. 22, 2012, 2:45 a.m. CST
Still with the rock song at the end! Did Star Wars teach these people nothing! Lets have some epic sci-fi fanfare and give people something thats been missing for 30 years!
by silentbobafett2
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Feb. 22, 2012, 2:48 a.m. CST
Is Disney waving a *we might be able to use you for a sequel* carrot?
by justmyluck
The relentless reporting on this obvious mess seems to indicate it.
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to not see this
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Feb. 22, 2012, 3:03 a.m. CST
Remember when sci-fi epics had men like Charles Heston and effects were practical
by Nerd Rage
How did we get to this shit?
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When will the embargo be lifted on actual reviews? If the movie is good (and that seems to be the case for most), why an embargo at all?? It puts another level of unneedeed suspicion to en already worrisome situation (which seems to be, contrary to comments about the actual movie, well informed by many news items). And for the practical stuff, well, I never could figure out how they were going to do thousands of 15-feet 4-armed green monsters practically. That's why it was a project rife for animation and/or Ray Harryhausen's master skill.
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There isn't any conspiracy to it, its pretty common practice because movie studios plan on the reviews as part of the advertising machine, and they want their release to be timed to have what they consider the peak effect. If reviews get released earlier then scheduled studios feel like there effect will be diminished by the movie's release. If anything an embargo is a sign of faith, because the studio is planning on the wave of reviews to help push audiences in on opening day. Though bad movies have embargoes too so its not entirely that meaningful.
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Feb. 22, 2012, 5:06 a.m. CST
A better trailer by far, i have my doubt's it's just a simple 'fanboy' effort though, considering how much viral marketing we have these days....
by cameron
....Hope it's a good movie but it just doesn't have anything new to offer. Geeks will say that JCoM was the inspiration for Star Wars etc; but the average joe blow wont know that and just think it's another Avatar/Star Wars/Prince of Persia mash up. I looked at the Hobbit trailer on you tube and in the comments below dicks were actually saying it rips off LotR!!! Some real 'tards out there.....
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...it has got to be the WORST piece of shit I've ever seen in my life. I mean - CHRIST. It makes "The Phantom Menace" look like "Blade Runner". This movie is going be one of the biggest bombs in cinema history. Seriously - this is NOT a joke. And it is not just an opinion - this movie is OBJECTIVELY wretched. It plays like it was made for THREE-year-olds - and I think even they would hate it. I was hoping for something at LEAST entertaining, but it's not even bad in the "so bad it's good" category - it's AUDIENCE-GROANING terrible. Some may end up disagreeing with me, but I highly doubt it. BIG, BIG, BIG disappointment. And the word I've gotten from a couple of my friends out there has been that the studio knows they've got a terrible movie on their hands and are scared to death.
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Give the kid that made this trailer a job.
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Feb. 22, 2012, 6:52 a.m. CST
John Carter lost in the sparse desert of an incredibly boring poster that looks more like one of the concept paintings.
by UltraTron
Sorry kid. Terrible, boring composition. Compare to the original star wars poster from 77 and you will fall asleep evaluating this.
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Feb. 22, 2012, 6:55 a.m. CST
Whoops. I meant that comment for the boring poster section.
by UltraTron
Not the boring trailer section.
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Feb. 22, 2012, 7:41 a.m. CST
The Mouse is definately taking it up the butt on this one
by Patrick Pettay
I predict opening weekend box office for John Carter to be @$20 million just for the fanboys and the people Disney will pay to go see it. Then the huge drop off happens as it crawls to a total box domestic office of $45-$50 mil. Since it cost $200 m. to make that is a nice $150 mil in the red. I would not want to be the Disney Exec. who green lit this POS.
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100-year-old sources of cinema being released this year: <br><br> 1) Edgar Rice Burroughs released the first John Carter as a serialized story in All-Story Magazine from February to July, 1912. <br><br> 2) Which makes me wonder if anyone had a copy with them when they boarded the Titanic in April, 1912, and never got to see how the story ended.
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Feb. 22, 2012, 8:24 a.m. CST
canned dirty ape: utube is full of fan made trailers tis true.
by UltraTron
But let's be honest. They all kinda suck. This one is probably the best one ever done.
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Now folks are making up reviews. Still don't understand all the hate. Twitter embargo is over not one negative tweet .... We shall see but the haters seem to come out for this property. Have a feeling it is anti-Disney sentiment. What else could it be? This is why you hate movies? This is what you should love. Don't we want EPIC escapism?
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Feb. 22, 2012, 9:03 a.m. CST
@spacehunter 3-d, i can't decide if you're funny or a total 'tard........
by cameron
...i'll give you the benifit of the doubt, just in case you're an actual 'tard, coz it wouldn't be funny to mock the mentally disadvantaged.
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That title card font is still too damn ugly. Couldn't they use something else?
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Im looking forward to seeing this. Wish there was more animatronic aliens instead of CGI ones but I'm sure with Pixar involved it will be a well told story and exciting to watch. I'll be there on day one.
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Feb. 22, 2012, 9:56 a.m. CST
"This movie will bomb" "It will be a success" What are you, stock brokers?
by CuervoJones
Don´t be Ellis! Who cares about box office?
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Got rid of "of Mars" in the title, and not making the planet red. I don't get it. Does the planet Mars not test well with audiences?
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I want to see this movie and I hope it does well. Disney does seem to be overly cautious about marketing the whole thing. The trailer's "100 years of filmmaking" line erases all of the comparisons to Avatar and Star Wars, etc.. for the casual moviegoer. Embrace the history of the story and all the films that have used some of it--but this is the film that has all of the pieces, we hope!
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looks like shit. Fantastic cinema died in 1993 after Jurassic Park was released. Since then, the flood gates opened, and the art form known as special effects has been completely watered-down, and washed away.
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I'll admit that I don't know anything about John Carter... other than "from Mars" was originally at the end of the title. So, the original trailers had me completely uninterested in this movie. It just looked like some pretty-boy in a loin cloth fighting cgi creatures. I couldn't make heads-or-tails of anything else shown. Now, THIS trial may or may not be giving too much away... but it has given me some idea what the movie is about and actually got me kind of interested in it. The powers that be should have released a trailer like this some time ago and got more people talking about it!
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Because you're absolutely right about that: they can sell any turd with a good sizzle teaser. In fact I've (probably all of us have) learned to not trust a trailer that I like too much. This entire ad campaign though just reeks of being out of their depth. Has Disney ever done a good, non-four-quadrant friendly trailer/ad campaign? It might violate their prime directive. Also when is AICN going to change their comment system? It might be nice to engage in multiple discussions on a topic, y'know, like most folks do.
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Feb. 22, 2012, 11:18 a.m. CST
Does anyone here think this looks like thE end scene of ATTACK OF THE cLONES? oN THAT ROCKY, BUG PLANET?
by NataliePortmans9inchTurd
LOOKS SHIT.
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Feb. 22, 2012, 11:36 a.m. CST
No, reason they can't market this as the next Avatar. Plot is no more stupid and technically more original.
by Joe Plumber
If this fails, I blame them taking Mars off the title. I would have renamed it John Carter: Battle for Mars.
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Feb. 22, 2012, 11:39 a.m. CST
Taking, "Mars" out of the title makes this a Fantasy film and not SciFi
by Joe Plumber
Mars would add a SciFi element which the marketing geniuses have decided is the kiss of death, I'm sure based on extensive market research.
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My biggest issue with the JC trailers is the dialogue. It doesn't mean anything to me because what the characters are saying don't hold any weight for me. The planet looks a LOT like earth, and I think the heavy metal music is heavy handed. It's trying too hard to be hip. Imagine the same trailer with the score from COCCOON by James Horner. If some don't remember that check out the Superbowl trailer for SUPER 8. A really terrible movie but promoted quite well.
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Feb. 22, 2012, 11:46 a.m. CST
you naysayers are idiots. The movie looks good. I'm ready for *** PLANET HULK *** who's with me?
by Fandude7
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I don't know much about effects but this film seems to blend actual film of people with computer stuff. I'm going to see it for sure. I got kind of amped up about CGI and how it all works on this blog (http://scientificmatters.blogspot.com/2012/02/cgi-real-and-fake.html?showComment=1329932594897#c3057294806986668534) but what I've been reading here seems to contradict what they're saying. Can anyone help me out and tell me how it all works? I hate to be the only girl in the room and be the one asking stupid questions but I genuinely don't know. tera101.weebly.com XOXO Thanks! TJS
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I'm so fucking sick of every movie being about people looking for their mysterious father or brother or uncle, or carrying on someone's legacy. I'm sick of stories about chosen ones and prophecies. Why can't our main characters these days be interesting by themselves? Too much backstory is killing modern storytelling, and I'm goddamn tired of it.
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Feb. 22, 2012, 12:28 p.m. CST
The review embargo by Disney, a mere 2 weeks out, is telling.
by Orbots Commander
And what it's telling me is that the studio is afraid that they have a $250 Million POS on their hands. If JOHN CARTER was truly spectacular, and right up there with a David Lean epic, then Disney would be yelling about it from the rooftops a month prior to release, at least. And they're not. I remember a few years ago reading about Disney's Enchanted, featuring a breakout performance by Amy Adams, think it was in the Wall Street Journal, and the piece was relating how the Disney studio was so ecstatic about what they had on their hands, they were screening it for everyone and anyone prior to release, to spread the good buzz.
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Feb. 22, 2012, 12:44 p.m. CST
sebastian, screenwriters are taught in film school that plot comes from character
by Joe Plumber
And characters come from their past. That said, that does not mean that the character's past has to be part of the plot. I blame J.K. Rowling and Harry Potter for the current trend of mysterious past/messianic future of film characters, especially in movies like this.
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Feb. 22, 2012, 1:21 p.m. CST
Personally, I am also sick that every person in every movie needs to have daddy issues
by happybunni
I don't think that's a back story that needs to be told, it's done in far far far too many films.
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I like it. I am also half way through the first book. Dug out the collection from 1963 my dad had stashed away. It is pretty amazing that it was writing in like 1916 and reads pretty well. And you can definitely see how it inspired sci fi to come. And you can see alot of what the book covers in the trailer alone, like the strange martian brown "grass / moss."
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Feb. 22, 2012, 2:04 p.m. CST
I guy at work today said his kids are not interested in it
by disfigurehead
If the kids dont care then you really are in trouble.
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Feb. 22, 2012, 2:06 p.m. CST
Fan made for sure, you can see the change in HD to standard, the new shots came from the Japanese trailer
by BikoQue
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I had absolutely no interest in this film. After seeing this fan trailer, I may be persuaded to go see it.
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I mean, think about it. I don't know exactly what the budget is, but it's gotta be at least approaching $175-200M range just due to the massive visual FX. You've got a property that, honestly, the average moviegoer knows little to nothing about, I think only the most hardcore fanboys are huge fans (or even aware) of these books, and that's not enough to break even. Especially then when you throw in a non-star like Kitsch(sp?) as your lead.
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Feb. 22, 2012, 2:22 p.m. CST
plus, I consider myself a big genre film fan, of scifi/fantasy/whatever, though I wasn't already aware of the books, & even after this trailer, I've STILL got ZERO interest
by TheSeeker7
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then after the fanboys see it...that's it. John Failure of Mars.
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Look, the guy behind Finding Nemo and Wall e -- the man is amazing. With a few positive reviews, I'm there. But bullshit on a fan made trailer. The site it's from is a huge money backed studio 'fan' page with no 'about' so there is no true 'fan' we can locate who made the video. And the video is posted on a new YouTube account The John Carter Files. So I hate being lied to by a big corporate advertising machine and for AICN for not doing the remotest bit of 'fact checking' I'd love it for someone to prove me wrong and actually find the 'editor' who made this trailer.
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Ya know, I have no clue whether he's gonna be any good or not in this movie, but at least give him a chance. It's not like he's some model hack plucked off a teeny-bopper TV series. He comes from arguably one of the Top 10 TV shows of the past 10 years ,at least. He was damn good in Friday Night Lights, and that show had more talent in front of and behind the cameras than most films you'll see. Let's at least save judgement until after the finished picture comes out and not just based on a few trailers.
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Anyone else?
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Feb. 22, 2012, 4:44 p.m. CST
Hey Choppah! Look like you chopped him goooood, well done. By the way i managed to wrangle myself a seat at early cuts of Avatar v Ghostbusters 2......
by cameron
...swears i dids!! sat next to Jim Cameron and ate his nuts!
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Oh FUCK you geeks.
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Feb. 22, 2012, 6:02 p.m. CST
So, waitaminute...Disney is paying AICN when it comes to JOHN CARTER,
by Subtitles_Off
but AICN is shilling all this AVENGERS crap for free?
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Because Avatar and many other stories over the last 100 years barrowed from the story line. Get it?
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I think ( and hope ) this movie will do well and after it does you'll still get the occasional " That was crap! " comment. I'm looking forward to it!
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and the title is just lame
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WOW do I wish Disney would take THAT marketing approach! THAT would make people sit up and think "Oh really? THIS story is what inspired other movies? Maybe Star Wars? AVATAR? LOTR??" Doesn't matter if its true or not in the case of LOTR, what matters is what people perceive. IF this was the campaign- "see the story that inspired the movies you love!"- I 100% believe it would get more butts in the seat bc of curiosity alone.
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Not coming from the studio? It doesn't matter this film will flop and kill off Andrew Stanton's wonderkid status!
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We missed you.
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This movie will suck! (Disclaimer with really small typo): But I will probably see it with my son och my 3d home theater.
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Feb. 23, 2012, 8:47 a.m. CST
Though I like the "100 years of film-making title" the trailer is still paint by numbers.
by Dr_PepperSpray
The one thing that would have made the trailer a bit better, in my opinion, is if they brought it back to the Journal somehow. Also, I friggen hate When the Levy Breaks. It was over-used by 1998 and just screams "movie trailer". Other then that its a hell of a lot better then what Disney has attempted.
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At least you've toned down your hatred for geek culture a little bit and dropped the man-bashing.
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"The site it's from is a huge money backed studio 'fan' page with no 'about' so there is no true 'fan' we can locate who made the video. I'd love it for someone to prove me wrong and actually find the 'editor' who made this trailer." Dude, you make me laugh. I cut the damned trailer on my laptop Sunday night after the Superbowl was over. my little site thejohncarterfiles is just me - no studio. no studio money - actually no money at all. I've written every article on there. and if you read the articles critical of disney's inept marketing you would know that they aren't involved. I'm pretty sure they hate me even though I'm just trying to help them. I'm just sayin'.....
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whaddaya mean there's no about page? look in the top left corner of thejohncarterfiles. it reads ABOUT.... ....you must not have looked up there. been there since day one.
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I don´t get it.
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