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Hey folks, Harry here... I was raised in the Seventies, when the Women's Movement really took Lynda Carter and her WONDER WOMAN as a badge of honor. My mother, was one of those bra-burning women's lib types - and never let me forget the awesome of WONDER WOMAN. If you go back and read those classic WONDER WOMAN comics - and even more - reading up upon her creator, William Moulton Marston, who is an absolutely fascinating character in his own right. Anyway - it seems that there is a documentary that interviews everyone from Lynda Carter to Gloria Steinem to Trina Robbins and more... to show the psychological importance of characters like WONDER WOMAN for women of the world. This is a film I hope to see at SXSW - here ya go...
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We need a really good Wonder Woman movie to help set up The Justice League. But who plays Wonder Woman?
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This'll have to do til the MS. MARVEL movie, I guess...
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..Wonder Woman and the Attack of the Chirping Crickets
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... then Thor was about carpentry. http://www.cracked.com/article_19434_the-6-most-ridiculous-superhero-weaknesses.html
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Feb. 20, 2012, 2:40 p.m. CST
Nothing ever happened before the Baby Boomers existed
by Margot Tenenbaum
ZINES? Really? Has this production been on ice since Clinton's first term?
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Feb. 20, 2012, 2:51 p.m. CST
I think the forum format should change - it's really flawed...
by marineboy
what is the point of a subject bar when you can't directly participate with a "subject" In the end, we're all commenting on the Wonder Woman article anyway.
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...watch another frame of that navel-gazing, self-indulgent tripe! Having been raised by one of the strongest women I have ever known, lemme tell ya somethin': TRULY "empowered" women are out there getting shit done and not whinging on about role models and "riot grrls!" And none of them would give this P.O.S. documentary the time of day.
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GUYS DROOL!
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Wonder Woman lost her boosom flying TAA HEY!
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I know there's a lot of soft focus going on there but it looks like she's held up almost as good as Jane Seymour.
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I know it's probably too late to rehabilitate his sexist ass, but at the very least it might plant some doubts in his head.
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Feb. 20, 2012, 3:38 p.m. CST
starhawke, please DO eat a bullet..using ur fucking brain to THINK about shit is NOT 'navel gazing', not ALL women are TOUGH like ur MAM...u IDIOT
by quantize
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She sat at a booth across from my friend at con once (my friend was the one and only female there selling her self-created/published comic, but Trina couldn't be arsed to get up and stop by/offer some support/or encourage the women and girls there in line to see Trina to support another actual woman making comics. They didn't need to buy anything; acknowledgement helps as well. But most women/girls there just walked on by. Most people are interested in doing things themselves and getting attention, not supporting others. Trina talks the talk, but doesn't walk the walk.
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Like, am I not aware that there are female action stars and strong role models for girls? How much longer are they going to beat this horse? We get it. Oh,, by the way, there are minority heroes too.
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Because mainstream comics are now fully corporate-driven, less chances are taken on female characters. Now more than ever, the heroines at DC and Marvel are just disposable tits and ass with very few exceptions like WW, Batgirl, and Jessica Jones. I'm all for some well-drawn cheesecake once in a while, but Jesus Christ, grow the fuck up. If you want to stroke it to porn, stroke it to porn. I really don't require that every introductory shot of a female character begins with a painstakingly detailed ass shot.
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Maybe then he wont keep forcing his wife to give him hummers at staff meetings while manhandling Gail Simone's perky titties.
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Feb. 20, 2012, 4:25 p.m. CST
And here I thought The FP would be the stupidest trailer AICN posted..I was wrong!
by Mel
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Feb. 20, 2012, 4:32 p.m. CST
Wonder Woman teaches that girls can do anything ... but only if they ...
by Royston Lodge
... are either a clay figure brought to life by the magic of the gods, or the demigod offspring of Zeus and Hippolyta. It depends if yer talkin' pre-Crisis or post-Crisis.
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Feb. 20, 2012, 4:34 p.m. CST
I love Lynda Carter! She'll always be Wonder Woman to me!
by Orionsangels
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Feb. 20, 2012, 4:47 p.m. CST
I love Lynda Carter! She'll always be Bobbie Jo Baker to me!
by MST3KPIMP
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Well....I like fucking them anyway. Otherwise they're kinda annoying. Here's a question for the vagina transporters: If you fell in love with us for being us....why do yhou incessantly try to turn us into you? Sorry but I'm NEVER going to like fucking Sex in the City. It's never gonna happen. And no I don't give a shit what happened on Oprah today or who's pregnant at work, or what book about oppressed women you're reading, or any of the other tedious things you want to talk about. You wanna impress me? Think of new ways to make me cum. Spend your time doing that.
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Thanks for sharing this Harry, The double W comes in for a lot of schtick (sic) over the years but it's a difficult character to give the right edge to. A redefining moment for me was watching the New Frontier animation based on the original comic but having the women stand up for themselves, however brutally, rang true for me for what amazonian beliefs should be. I'm looking forward to seeing this doc and sad I can't be there for the whole SXSW festival. Keep on keeping on...
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Feb. 20, 2012, 5:29 p.m. CST
Elizabeth Warren, future president of the USA, look her up.
by uberfreak
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yeah really yeah like Blade who got 3 movies kingpin who was made black on film hemdall made black on film WW never has got a movie and she has been around for like 80 years or so
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Feb. 20, 2012, 7:08 p.m. CST
I want a Wonder Woman movie set during WWII. Make Per Degaton or Vandal Savage the villain.
by whatevillurks
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phifty2, absolutely we need this now. When Warner Bros recently said they wouldn't support a film with a woman in the lead, when the field is still male dominated, when we have some states desperately trying to take away a woman's right to choose and access to birth control, along with this rhetoric of nostalgia when "women knew their place, " when a talkback site like this is full of sexist douchebags, we absolutely need a reminder that women are not just for ogling purposes (sorry, Power Girl) and are capable of the same heroism and creativity as men.
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Warren would make a fantastic candidate, though I fear she'll be too old and too polarizing by the time she gets her shot. Too bad Jennifer Granholme was born in Canada. I'd really like to see a decent female candidate in the next election that puts idiots like Sarah Palin and Michele Bachman to shame.
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misogyny is never funny. Sorry. Thanks for playing.
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I hear ya. Wish the ass shot (which was even there in Avengers promos) wasn't such an industry standard.
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Feb. 20, 2012, 7:52 p.m. CST
Every guy on here knows exactly what the fuck I'm talking about
by Jaster Mareel
We want the house and dog and all that shit too. If you bitches could just shut the fuck up and stick with the program, everything would be peaches and fucking cream. *John Belushi voice* But NOOOOOOOOOOOO! Oh it STARTS nice. You can't suck our dicks often enough, tell us how good we are in bed, blah blah blah. It's all a fucking setup. Sooner or later it alwas comes to the passive-agressive manipulation bullshit. Look, I get it. Women aren't all muscle-bound innate hunters and they had to evolve with different skills. Lying, deception, manipulation, these are all in their bag of tricks. Bottom line, you're all just looking for a man to blame your whole miserable, fucked up lives on. You know it, I know. That's why you can't stand to be without a boyfriend. Because then you have to actually accept that shit isn't getting done because YOU aren't doing them. Not because some lazy asshole on the couch isn't =contributing to the relationship=. It's ALL about you princess. So spread that shit while you're young enough for anybody to give a damn, then wonder why the men in your life keep running off after you pull the bait-and-switch. Word of advice for how to keep a boyfriend: Keep your mother fucking mouth shut and don't take every possible opportunity to run him down. I'm not saying there aren't deadbeat asshole guys out there. But remember, if you're with one, YOU PICKED HIM! Don't blame him because you did. If you could get a real man, you would. The girl I'm with, I do everything fucking imaginable to keep her happy. I buy her shit all the time. I clean her house, I do it all. She's always telling me I'm the best guy she's ever known. I'm sure she's right, but I'm not stupid enough to not realize this is still the "honeymoon phase" I mentioned before with all the dick sucking and shit. the second I sign on the line which is dotted, it all goes to hell. Every now and then she slips and gives me a fucking glimpse of the Hell I'd be in if I ever gave into it. I'm telling you guys, this is the only way to keep a relationship good, stay non-fucking-commital. As long as she thinks she's in an evaluation period, she'll be the woman she knows you want. As you become her next sucker, you'll be a piece of shit she can't stop bitching about. I'm not saying any of this because I hate women or any bullshit like that. I love the bitches! What can I say, they're sexy and I love when they're being all girly and I love feeling like a provider, etc. But just like with a dog or horse, you gotta let 'em know you don't put up with shit. Infer to them that they have the POTENTIAL to be indispensible, but hee's pleny of fine looking bitches and some of them even bring you lasagna at work.
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read some of the very early comics. The way she ties up men is kinda creepy
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Feb. 20, 2012, 9:10 p.m. CST
Thank you totalreality, someone old enough to know the truth
by Jaster Mareel
e are all raised with the same fairy tale bullshit. We all want to believe there is this perfect girl out there and we'll both support each other and love each other unconditionally. That's a bunch of shit. Any guy who thinks his woman loves him uncondtionally can bring a hooker home and ask for a 3-way. See how much she loves you then. But seriously, it IS, in fact a game. The game is called =control=. Whether either of you know it or not, you're trying to control each other, you just do it in different ways. You want her to be the slutty home-maker who brings you your slippers while wearing nothing but a dripping thong, she wants you to make fuckloads of money so she can buy 1,000 pair of shoes. It's not that I don't believe in emotional connection. I've felt it and it is truly the 5th element that keeps a relationship together. But you need to be love's master as well because it can make you do stupid things. You are not more deserving of love because you are willing to overlook red flags. Red flags aren't a test, they're there because things are fucked up. I'm a romantic at heart and I'm sure true love is out there...for SOME of us. Just don't let your desire for it cause you to take shit. There's no point in wasting time with someone who makes you feel crappy.
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Feb. 20, 2012, 10 p.m. CST
wrath_of_fett, once I gave you props... I take them all back now. *shakes head*
by uberfreak
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There are a lot of total asshole men out there. But I have enough intelligence and perspective to believe that they are just a minority, that make the rest look bad. It's too bad that you can't extend the reverse courtesy. And in failing to do that, you've made yourself look like an idiot that belongs to that minority I mentioned. Just....wow.
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No seriously, maybe I'm just a bitter fuck, you could be right there. You'll be happy to know that nobody other than you people have any idea I feel this way. I'm the guy women sit around saying =Why aren't all men as understanding as you?= We're understanding all right, just not in the way you think. In fact we probably know you better than you know yourself. After awhile we can predict your reactions and motivations. You think that's us ccaring to unravel the mystery that is you. It's actually us trying to avoid arguments and stay off your shit list because life is too short to listen to your air-raid-siren whining-nagging. Doubt me? You women are the first to recognize it in each other. In fact any woman who is being honest will come right out and say =women are such bitches=. If you spent half the energy in the office actually doing your job instead of backstabbing office politics, setting traps for each other and other high school cliquey bullshit, you might actually get that raise you so adamantly demand. I'm down with equal pay for equal work, but not equal pay for equal space taken up. Lest you think otherwise, I'm not trying to say women are somehow less than men. As I eluded to earlier, I do completely adore them. Life would suck dick LITERALLY without them. Yes they work my nerves on a fairly consistant basis, but they contribute a hell of a lot and certainly have more compassion than men do on the whole. And by the way, do not even feign that you don't think men are mostly assholes. shit you can't even mention men as a gender without implying we're all amoral pigs. Shit, Pink Apocalypses retort to me BEGINS that way! Like it's somehow ok and accepted that men are all assholes but saying women, ANY women are less than saints is beneath contempt and therefore just proves all men are assholes. We've all been burned, to be sure. Yes the difference in gender at least fed into it. But the fact is, we all play games. Just don't pretend your games are somehow more holy than ours. Someone once said that men use women for sex and women use men for love. I don't believe that is true. It may appear that way on the surface but the motivations are completely different. Women want security. This because they are nest builders and want a strong founfdation for starting a family. This isn't just money, but that obviousely plays a key role. Men want acceptance. They want to believe they are needed. This isn't just sex, but let's face facts. If a woman allows us to do that to them, we get a strong sense that they truly care about us. Search your feelings, you know it to be true.
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I used to be all "Whoa is me...nobody loves me..." waaah, waah, waaah. I've come to realize that I am actually kind of lucky. Nobody tells me what I can and cannot do. Not that I would do anything crazy or criminal or anything like that, it's not in me, but if I want to watch football on Saturdays and Sundays nobody is going to tell me I can't. I'm not stuck going to some "couples shower" or Bed, Bath & Beyond or any of that other ridiculous shit. I don't have to watch CSI or Law & Order: SVU or NCIS or Gilmore Girls or fucking Buffy the Vampire Slayer or any of those awful shows that women love. If I just want to grab a burger for dinner I can do that. If I want to leave the dishes in the sink for a couple of days I can do that. All that my married friends or friends in relationships ever do when we get together is complain about the woman in their life, or God forbid, their rotten kids. No thank you. While I wish I did make more money, because that leads to more sex and other fun times, I am so glad that I am not stuck in some relationship with some nagging harpy. Now, I am not saying all women are nagging harpies. My personal life has resulted in extremely bad luck with women, which makes it all the more clear to me that I should remain alone and contented.
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I love Wonder Woman and I can't stand Gloria fucking Steinem.
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everything you complain that women are... you admit to being in your rant about them you are projecting, son here's a bit of advice for you. have some respect for yourself and then maybe you will command some respect from other people. including women. as it is... you seem like a fucking pussy to me.
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Truer words have not been spoken. I too am one of those guys that have been called "too nice" and "understanding". If I'm too nice, then there really are a bunch of assholes out there. The sad truth is, women love the bad boys. Also, they will do the most f-ed up thing and yet try to make it seem like there is a noble reason behind their actions whereas men are just jerks. If a man dumps a woman HE is an asshole. If a woman dumps a man(and has an immediate back-up plan), well then, that man she was with must have been an asshole. I'm not saying men don't get a fair shake, we just don't get off as easily.
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elizabeth warren? You mean the moron socialist who has zero understanding of economics or the real world? I'll assume you have to be joking.
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easy with your hand guys,dont stress it too much.you need it for writing and paying bills,apart from jerking with it.
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that shit is weak. Don't have a problem with strong female leads. Make a good show / Movie and i'll watch. Are women hard done by Role models any more then men n this day and age?
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Not to give you guys grief, but you cant tar all woman with the same brush just because you have had some bad relationships in the past, I agree some out there are total bitches , just like some men are total twats, and if you are baseing your relationships on how often she sucks your dick then of course it's bound to suck (pun intended) in the end...
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Feb. 21, 2012, 10:28 a.m. CST
Just once I'd love to see a Harry post not start out about his childhood, where he was raised, what he was watching at the time, etc.
by cockdiesel
It's like he has a template or something.
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So what if WW never(up to now) never got a movie. She had a TV show. So did Buffy, Alias, Sarah Conner, Bionic Woman, etc. Angelina Jolie is a friggin action hero now. Point is, there is no shortage of woman who don't need a man to protect them in cinema nowadays.
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It is. So I have two nevers in there. And the last sentence would be better written as: Given the rise of female action heroes on T.V. and in film the antiquated cliche of the inept damsel in distress is quickly becoming a cinematic trend of the past. So there you go.
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Good God I hope I never meet the Woman who fucked you up!you have some deep trust issues there my friend.
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What you will and won't accept. That's where it gets really fucked up. That's why you must remain aloof and noncommittal. if you put all your eggs in her basket, she might just swirl it around her head and smash it against the wall. See things for what they are, not for what you hope them to be someday. Understanding that women are born manipulators is not the same as saying all women are evil. It's about understanding how they think. Dog will hunt. Bitch will lie. Same thing. Funny how guys always get the rap for lying when I'll bet dollars to doughnuts women lie far more frequently. Knowing she will manipulate you also keeps you from being manipulated. Don't trust a fuckin' word out of her mouth and you'll be fine. With a little practice you'll be able to spot it coming a mile away. Once you can remove personal feelings from the equation, watching her try to pull your string is actually kinda cute. Especially when you get to gently deflect it and watch her try over and over again. It's like taking a rubber ball from a dog, hiding it in your pocket and looking at your hands like =where did it go?=, then slyly grabbing the ball and tossing it for them to go chase again. Watch her try to puzzle out why her tactics aren't getting the result they are supposed to, it's adorable.
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as long as you see relationships as a game or a war, and women as the enemy you must control, you're always going to be miserable, unhappy, and bitter. And this isn't about "romance" or anything like that. It's about real relationships requiring honesty, patience, vulnerability, hard work, facing up to your own shit, and actually respecting the other person. Hate to be all new-agey on ya, but if you have these attitudes towards women, you're only going to wind up with women who confirm them. You have to actually be the person you want to attract first. If you're a misogynist douchebag, you will attract "bitches." Simple as that.
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I'm just tired of this whole culture shitting on men and lifting up women. Hey they gave us the fuckin' apple remember? Everything was fine before that shit. Just spending all day humpin' and naming animals and then she says "Eat some of this dear" and it all went to shit. If that story were being written today it would all be traced back to the guy not taking out the garbage. So anyway, the Gash Brigade wants us all to believe that women are the poor, put-upon, wise soothsayers of the world. And the men are all stupid apes who only run the world because they rape and kill. Ever hear a group of women drinking together? They go back and forth between men are all assholes, to yeah but I like that dick. Then they all come to websites like this and denounce us for saying women are bitchy but we like that pussy. And it's bullshit, total bullshit. Men rule the world because we are BUILT to 9and because we have pockets). Women run the household because they are specially designed to do so. Show me a family where the guy stays home to cook and clean while the woman goes the the office to provide and I'll show you a gay guy and a lesbian playing house.
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And he is the best argument for unprotected sex that there is. Pretty much the only reason I'm with his mother is to protect him from whatever drunken biker piece of shit she would otherwise drag back from the bar.
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I'm in a similar situation myself, i.e. two beautiful little girls for whom there's nothing I won't do, and I'm staying in a marriage with an insatiable moaner-whiner who would rather get a divorce than clean up after herself (not clean up after *me*, clean up after *herself*), because I'll be damned if I'm going to leave my little girls alone with this self-centered soul crusher who can never go a single day without complaining about her daughters and/or her husband. Someone up there wrote that he hopes that Dave Sim sees this. Buddy, I'm sure that Dave Sim (who is COMPLETELY RIGHT about women and the horrors that the "feminist-homosexualist axis" has visited upon Western culture since the 1960s) would be rolling his eyes at this video, just as many of us real men are. "Since the days of Adam, there has been hardly a mischief done in this world but a woman has been at the bottom of it." -- William Makepeace Thackeray, _Barry Lyndon_, Chapter 1 F*cking dumb-ass feminists. To them, there's nothing amazing or strong about uniquely feminine characteristics of sensuality and familial compassion and home-making; no, what's strong, to them, is being masculine and doing what men normally do. *That's* strong, not making the home an emotionally and spiritually uplifting place to live (which is massively important), not exuding a confident and positive sensuality (which does not require a body like Sofia Vergara), not devoting oneself to the effective rearing of offspring (just as a man will devote himself to his wife if she's smart enough not to piss him off 24/7). Ironically, it is the mission of the feminist to wipe out women everywhere and replace them with men.
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It's not that my son's mother is a bad person or anything, and she's a pretty good mother to him, but she does have an anxiety problem which causes her to periodically freak the fuck out. So she'll get mad at him, or me, or fucking anybody she can find to blame. My role is peacekeeper/savior. I'm there to anticipate anything that could possibly set her off and circumvent it. Here's the fuckin' sick part and I'll bet most of us can relate.....she is so like my mother that it's fucking scary. I don't think I intended that to happen, but it can't be a coincidence. When I was a teenager I was in the same role, only that time I was protecting my baby sister and 2 little brothers.
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