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Friday Brings SWEEPS DAY 16!!

Published at: Feb. 17, 2012, 1:40 a.m. CST by hercules

Last week universes merged and Olivia Dunham planted a big wet one on Peter Bishop.

Premiering tonight:

Curious and Unusual Deaths (10pm Health) “explores some of the strangest, grizzliest and simply avoidable deaths from across the globe - and the science that transforms bizarre mystery into explainable fact. From the bible salesman who is struck by lightning under a cloudless sky to the pet lover who drowns in her cat dish with less than three-inches of water.”

Fridays, Dec. 23, 2011-Feb. 10, 2012
(Adults 18-49; repeats in gray; previous weeks in parentheses)
1.9 (1.9) (1.7) (1.9) (2.2) (1.9) (1.0) (1.5) Gold Rush
1.8 (1.7) (1.3) (1.3) (1.8) (1.8) (0.9) (1.1) Blue Bloods
1.8 (1.5) (1.5) (1.7) (---) (---) (---) (---) Shark Tank
1.7 (1.6) (1.2) (1.1) (1.7) (1.8) (1.2) (1.0) CSI NY
1.6 (1.4) (---) (1.8) (1.4) (0.6) (0.6) (0.8) Grimm
1.5 (1.1) (1.2) (1.4) (1.3) (1.4) (1.2) (0.8) Dateline
1.5 (1.6) (1.4) (1.6) (1.7) (---) (1.1) (0.8) Kitchen Nightmares
1.5 (1.4) (1.7) (1.6) (---) (---) (---) (---) Primetime
1.4 (1.6) (1.4) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Bering Sea Gold
1.4 (1.7) (1.5) (1.8) (1.7) (1.3) (---) (1.0) 20/20
1.3 (1.3) (1.0) (1.0) (1.3) (1.5) (1.0) (0.7) A Gifted Man
1.3 (1.2) (1.1) (1.1) (1.2) (0.8) (---) (---) NBA Basketball
1.3 (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Who Do/You Are?
1.1 (1.2) (1.2) (1.1) (1.1) (---) (0.4) (0.5) Fringe
0.8 (0.7) (0.9) (0.8) (0.6) (0.7) (0.6) (0.5) House of Payne
0.8 (0.8) (0.4) (0.4) (0.7) (0.8) (---) (---) Supernatural
0.7 (0.6) (0.6) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Spartacus: Vengeance
0.6 (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) American Pickers
0.5 (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Cajun Pawn Stars
0.5 (---) (---) (0.6) (---) (0.4) (---) (---) Clone Wars
0.5 (0.6) (0.5) (0.5) (0.5) (0.6) (0.4) (0.4) Diners, Drive-Ins
0.5 (0.6) (0.5) (0.4) (0.5) (0.5) (0.4) (---) Four Weddings
0.5 (0.5) (0.3) (0.4) (0.5) (0.6) (---) (---) Nikita
0.5 (0.6) (0.6) (0.5) (0.4) (0.4) (0.4) (---) Say Yes To The Dress
0.4 (---) (0.4) (---) (0.4) (---) (0.5) (0.5) America’s Most Wanted
0.4 (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Bravo Movie
0.4 (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Good Eats
0.4 (0.4) (0.5) (---) (0.5) (---) (0.6) (---) Hardcore History
0.4 (0.4) (---) (0.4) (0.3) (---) (0.4) (---) House Hunters Intl
0.4 (0.5) (0.6) (0.5) (0.6) (---) (---) (---) Merlin
0.4 (---) (0.6) (---) (0.4) (---) (---) (---) Spike Movie
0.4 (---) (---) (---) (0.4) (---) (---) (---) World’s Dumbest
0.3 (0.3) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Hannity
0.3 (0.3) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) O’Reilly Factor

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  • Feb. 17, 2012, 1:49 a.m. CST

    Yay Fringe, Yay Supernatural....

    by gotilk

    Yay... what else is on?

  • Feb. 17, 2012, 1:55 a.m. CST

    Real Time Maher - great stuff

    by KelVarnson

  • Feb. 17, 2012, 1:56 a.m. CST

    Supernatural is cool

    by KelVarnson

    The Clone Wars is solid.

  • Feb. 17, 2012, 2:02 a.m. CST

    Clone Wars really HAS been solid.

    by gotilk

    And that episode in the cube construct... pretty brutal and fun. Certainly better than anything Lucas has put on the big screen in decades.

  • Feb. 17, 2012, 3:36 a.m. CST

    Are those the storage lockers from Season 1?

    by tangcameo

    The ones that blew up in the very first episode?

  • Feb. 17, 2012, 6:26 a.m. CST

    4th episode of Spartacus has leaked already.

    by Volllllume3

    And it's pretty fucking awesome.

  • Feb. 17, 2012, 6:33 a.m. CST

    Bring on Fringe

    by chad kuhns

    I'm hyped, as usual for new Fringe tonight. Also looking forward to Supernatural, and I'm going to give Portlandia another go. The shows writing is kind of all over the place, but I still think it has potential

  • Feb. 17, 2012, 6:34 a.m. CST

    Last week's Fringe was awesome

    by theGoldbergV

    first one in a while that felt like old-school Fringe. I've been thinking this season that there's only 2 ways this Peter story can resolve itself, either a.)he goes back to his old universe(or everyone reverts back to their seasons 1-3 counterparts) and all of season 4 is reset or b.)he realises he is stuck here and adjusts accordingly Now I can't imagine either of those paying off too well. What last week introduced was an option c.)where Olivia and Walter and maybe others have a sort of Peter-awakening and remember him alongside all their other adjusted memories. Now THAT could work. Especially if it gives them the knowledge to deal with future threats like Jones or the Observers. Hope it goes in that direction. It would still leave large parts of season 3 as irrelevances (Fauxlivia's baby, Alt-Broyles's death, etc) but its a means to salvage this admittedly ambitious but largely flawed storyline.

  • Feb. 17, 2012, 7:24 a.m. CST

    Love Fringe....but

    by DMAGnifier

    ....the only thing that bugs me is how they basically ignored all the events of last season because "we are in a different universe". Like @thegoldbergv mentioned. How do you have Fauxlivia have Peter's friggin baby and then just ignore it for an entire season like it never happened? Love the show, but if it does not get renewed (dioes it have a chance at this point?), I think we are in for some disappointing non-resolutions of some of the main storylines.

  • Feb. 17, 2012, 7:49 a.m. CST

    Spartacus is AWESOME!!

    by Valenni

    Jupitors cock is nothing in comparison!!

  • I have not yet been able to watch any of the new season of SPARTACUS... ...but I am with you, my brothers!

  • Feb. 17, 2012, 9:19 a.m. CST

    The new Spartacus actor is pretty darn good.

    by mistergreen

    Too bad they recasted Crixus' Love. That actress was good.

  • Feb. 17, 2012, 9:33 a.m. CST

    Nothing About Fringe Works This Season, imo

    by Crow3711

    Especially not whichever of the three or four options to resolve this fucking mess they choose to go with. like goldberv said, the first two options are wildly unsatisfying. Now, the one that he likes, where they lost-style "wake up and remember" peter...well, ok, that might be emotional and is a better version of the story...but it still makes me ask what the fucking point of this entire season was. It's like we're trapped in a twilight zone version of fringe, only instead of it lasting one or two episodes, its been an entire season. No matter what they do, it makes everything that happened this season mean nothing, it makes peter the only character who actually grew and changed and had an actual character arc this season, and most important, it doesn't address how this show managed to ignore every single important thing that they had been building to for three seasons (olivias super powers, the peter/olivia baby, a real explanation of doomsday device, sam weiss, EVERYTHING) It's pathetic and I'm angry. I know everyone is going to yell at me and tell me to stop watching, but I'm SO sorry if I don't blindly go along with whatever story they're shoving down my throat. I love fringe, more than most of you most like, seen every episode including pilot as they aired...and I won't quit, the show only has half a season left most likely, i'll see it through. but its okay to admit they fucked up and would have been better off telling the story they so brilliantly set up last season, instead of completely writing everything out of the show and "rebooting" the entire series. its garbage.

  • Feb. 17, 2012, 9:34 a.m. CST

    Grimm!!!

    by purplemonkeydw

    Sorry, I have a soft spot for this show. Maybe Portland.

  • Feb. 17, 2012, 10:01 a.m. CST

    Fringe is a lot better then I initially expected season 1

    by CrazyGnome

    I thought this was a cheap x-files knockoff. And perhaps that is its creative roots. The first season was ok, I liked some of the stories but wasn't really invested in any of the characters. But after these last two seasons, I am completely hooked. I know it isn't the best show on TV, not making that claim. I feel the writing is fairly good, and the actors are really great. Specifically the Bishops. Anyway, hoping that they are still able to keep making these. I really like the way they play with the alternate reality. Cheers, have a great weekend all.

  • Feb. 17, 2012, 10:08 a.m. CST

    crow3711

    by Michael Lunney

    As a fervent fan like yourself, it is too bad you can't appreciate this season. I can sympathize with you, but I can't agree with you. I hope you do appreciate it again as the season ends, and we get satisfying resolutions. Again, try to see the entire forest, and not just some trees that might be getting in the way of seeing the entire story, not the story thst you want it to be. A lot like Lost.

  • Feb. 17, 2012, 10:11 a.m. CST

    Crow3711

    by theGoldbergV

    I know what you mean. And I won't call you a hater because I get it that you're a fan who is just angry at the direction the show is taking. I was the same about LOST season 6, which I saw as shitting in the face of the first 5 seasons, now Fringe IMO is not at that stage yet, but this Peter story requires a huge leap of faith from the audience and the payoff better be worth it. Last week's episode made me think they might just pull it off. But the jury's still out

  • Feb. 17, 2012, 10:23 a.m. CST

    crow3711/thegoldbergv

    by Michael Lunney

    Keep the Faith guys. All of us faithful fans are all hoping for a killer payoff. PLEASE?!!

  • Feb. 17, 2012, 10:23 a.m. CST

    I believe the diverse like/hate for Fringe.....

    by David Hinson

    steams from its commonality with Lost. That show had so many potential story lines that cross sections of fans felt a let down when it didnt pursue them. I get it and appreciate the sentiment. That being said its hands down one of the best sci-fi shows to come down the pipe in a long time. I for one tip my hat to the production team and to Fox for keeping it on the air. It has become cult and I think thats pretty rad. You can tell that this is a labor of love and that the passion for it is as high as ever.

  • Feb. 17, 2012, 10:31 a.m. CST

    The baby didn't happen in this alternate universe

    by Domi'sInnerChild

    Peter was erased by the machine, so were his little swimmers and any spawn. So no baby. You have to think of this season like it's Peter's "Its a Wonderful Life".

  • Feb. 17, 2012, 10:58 a.m. CST

    I Think I've Just Lost The Plot To Be Honest

    by Crow3711

    With Lost, I was such an obsessive freak of a fan, that even when they diverged and did crazy things, I was SO in, because I knew every little detail and nuance and could appreciate where we were going even if I didn't understand the destination. Plus, unlike so many, I didn't have as big a problem with season 6 (I still don't). I admit it has issues and its not the strongest season of the show at all, but especially on second viewing, I understand whats happening, why they did what they did, and I like it. But with this season of fringe, as I said I'm a huge fan, but I'm not obsessive. I don't remember every little detail and nuance, and I did want the story to continue to tell the story it set up last season. I just don't know where we are, what any of it means, who I should be rooting for, anything. I've just completely lost the plot. Even when individual episodes are strong, like I thought last weeks was, I don't real feel anything for it in terms of placing it in the larger context of the show. I feel like I'm looking at a road map, only I have no context for where I am in relation to anything else anymore. Maybe I didn't pay close enough attention, maybe I was so turned off by the new story that I missed details and forgot things from week to week. All very possible. I just know that I'm not excited every week for fringe anymore. It's a serviceable hour of tv every week for me, and that's about it.

  • Feb. 17, 2012, 11 a.m. CST

    story it is vs story you want it to be

    by Crow3711

    Is a really nice point, and one that I always, always, always harped on in the lost talkbacks. I would always tell people to pay attention to the story that is being told, and not the one they had in their minds the whole time. Over and over. And you're right. I should swallow some of my own medicine and try to do that. I just think at this point, like I said, I'm too far off the plot, I don't even know if I can get myself back into the thing.

  • Feb. 17, 2012, 11:07 a.m. CST

    Darth Maul lives!!

    by StarKiller216

  • Feb. 17, 2012, 11:35 a.m. CST

    While Watching S4 of Fringe...

    by Scott

    I've also been rewatching S1&2. A lot cool stuff pops back up. For instance, last week's episode was strongly rooted to Johari Window in its setup (isolated town of ppl that are a little off, pluse Olivia mentions Edina), and Jacksonville so far as the two worlds occupying the same space goes. So if you've got the DVDs (or downloads), it's sometimes fun to watch the early season eps that relate. As some have said, how this season is resolved will have so many backward repercussions to how I feel about the season as a whole. If it ends up that Peter goes back and is the only character to remember S4, I'd find it tough not to have that negatively effect my opinion on this great stretch of episodes. I don't think they'll do that, and I think our main players will eventually retain memories from all 4 seasons. But I don't remember a season of any show that's had it's success hinge on the resolution as much as this one does. And to add to the Fringe/Lost discussion, there's no question in my mind that some people are hesitant to embrace this season's arc because of the sideways world of Lost's S6

  • Feb. 17, 2012, 1:31 p.m. CST

    crow3711

    by Michael Lunney

    I hear ya. In any case, I know you to be an intelligent bloke, I understand your love for Fringe and your disappointments, but I am willing to bet that when this season ends, you will have your faith in Fringe restored. The show really is the best SF since Lost. Try thinking of Fringe in terms of how the story is developing, rather than fixate on those elements that are not being developed. You will notice more detail that way, and it will make more sense as to why they are doing what they are doing. For example, you wonder about the baby, and this is the same explanation I have in my head, supplied by a talkbacker above: ***The baby didn't happen in this alternate universe ---by domi'sinnerchild Peter was erased by the machine, so were his little swimmers and any spawn. So no baby. You have to think of this season like it's Peter's "Its a Wonderful Life". ****** Not so sure about the Wonderful Life comparison, but he does offer a plausible explanation. Intelligent SF on TV is something to be cherished, and Fringe has amazingly developed into something that is definitely greater than the sum of its parts. A lot like Lost.

  • Feb. 17, 2012, 1:47 p.m. CST

    McGootoo

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Keep your eyes open. You just know that Jay2517 is itching to unleash his partisan hackery upon this thread. Hilarity abounds!

  • Feb. 17, 2012, 1:53 p.m. CST

    I've missed Kirk Acevedo on Fringe the most.

    by cookylamoo

    Both as the Earth One and Earth 2 Charlie, Kirk kept the show "grounded". It was great having a guy who never knew what the fuck was really going on. So where is Kirk anyway? Did he land on some other show? I hope so.

  • Feb. 17, 2012, 1:57 p.m. CST

    cookylamoo - Kirk did land another show

    by room23storeblogspotcom

    Lets hope that is fails like Nestor Carbonell's Cane did so that we can have him back on Fringe like Nestor came back to Lost.

  • Feb. 17, 2012, 2:01 p.m. CST

    Definitely miss Acevedo

    by Scott

    I believe he was on Prime Suspect this year. Completely agree about him grounding the show and giving a semi-outsider perspective to what was going on with Olivia. Side note: did anyone see the promo for next week's episode? It came out on Wednesday, I think. Looks pretty interesting, maybe we'll even get (or be on the road to) some long-awaited answers. http://www.tvline.com/2012/02/fringe-promo-season-4-episode-14/

  • Feb. 17, 2012, 2:01 p.m. CST

    Before this gets started lets keep politics out of the talkback

    by room23storeblogspotcom

    Remember that all this does is put money in Hercs pocket for every post we do and he includes Bill Mair (Sorry for the miss spelling, forgot his name at the moment) in the talkback to drum up controversy/more post counts/money for himself.

  • Feb. 17, 2012, 2:14 p.m. CST

    mr. nice gaius

    by Michael Lunney

    Yeah,that guy sure is a black belt level lunatic. Makes me wonder why he hasn't injected his idiocy yet in response to this talkbacker above who dared to write: ***Real Time Maher - great stuff --by kelvarnson**** From the land beyond beyond, from the world past hope and fear, I bid you douchnozzle, now appear!!! So we can ignore you....

  • Feb. 17, 2012, 2:20 p.m. CST

    room23

    by Scott

    Prime Suspect was cancelled, so maybe we'll see him later this year. I might have just gotten a minor erection at the idea of Nestor Carbonell coming on Fringe. Love that Desmond will be on an ep this season, but Nestor's personality/vibe when he was playing Richard seems like it would totally work on Fringe.

  • Feb. 17, 2012, 2:23 p.m. CST

    room23storeblogspotcom

    by Michael Lunney

    Maher is mentioned in the headline. With all due respect, isn't your request kinda like asking you to refrain from talking about comic books in a TV talkback, because I don't like reading about comic books, even though you like talking about comic books at all times? (of course, I do, just using that as an example)? In any case, if the conservative dope starts blathering here, he just needs to be ignored, because he has nothing to say that isn't anger based and and ignorant. So, fuck him, he's going to be ignored by me. I am having more fun talking about Fringe with intelligent people.

  • Feb. 17, 2012, 2:41 p.m. CST

    mcgootoo

    by room23storeblogspotcom

    Fair point about that, its hard to listen to the conservative bashing since I am evil conservative, but I'll just have to ignore it like before and focus of other great this like Fringe.

  • Feb. 17, 2012, 2:42 p.m. CST

    smeyer44

    by room23storeblogspotcom

    Yeah Nestor would be awesome on Fringe and I'm totally excited for Henry Ian Cusick to come on Fringe. It would be awesome if it was an episode about time travel or something.

  • Still keeping the faith. Also, count me in for missing Scarlie something fierce.

  • Feb. 17, 2012, 3:16 p.m. CST

    room23storeblogspotcom

    by Michael Lunney

    Just wondering, why are you a conservative, and what kind? Can you justify your way of thinking? My best friend of 45 years is a libertarian conservative, and we are still friends after all these years, despite a few knock down, drag outs....

  • It's actually pretty good. I'm a sucker for pop culture references. And it does make fun of the fact that it's an X-Files ripoff. I don't know why Herc hates it so much.

  • Feb. 17, 2012, 4:18 p.m. CST

    Clone Wars is excellent.

    by DavidBanner

    Thank you George Lucas!

  • Feb. 17, 2012, 7:05 p.m. CST

    mcgootoo

    by room23storeblogspotcom

    Im conservative because it aligns with my personal beliefs and convections. Primarily for the moral reasons and secondarily for economic reasons.

  • only 2 more hours and we will find out! and if the sad fellow gaius would actually WATCH his "hero's" show, he would find out. but, being the hypocrite gauis is, he'll just project his sad life onto mine. same goes for the bigot mcgoo. some of the most hateful and saddest sad chaps i have ever read :( ***sigh*** see examples below... gauis- Keep your eyes open. You just know that Jay2517 is itching to unleash his partisan hackery upon this thread. Hilarity abounds!---- again, truth and facts are NOT "partisan hackery". maybe to progressive cowards like u, but not to the world at large. try to keep up tonight, mmmk? mcgoo- Yeah,that guy sure is a black belt level lunatic.---- ahh the progressive projection has started early tonight. Makes me wonder why he hasn't injected his idiocy yet in response to this talkbacker above who dared to write....---- thats because my life doesnt revolve around AICN or its talkbacks like urs little man... poor little feller :( So we can ignore you....---- of COURSE u ignore me. i point out the hypocrisy, misogyny, lies, distortions etc. of ur pathetic "hero" and back it up with facts. that is garlic to u progressives on here. u cant handle it so u "ignore" it. u are a small minded man and a coward...

  • Feb. 17, 2012, 8:05 p.m. CST

    I bid you douchbag - now disappear!

    by Michael Lunney

  • Feb. 17, 2012, 8:08 p.m. CST

    room23storeblogspotcom

    by Michael Lunney

    Even though I disagree with you politically, you have my respect. Because you sound like a human being and appreciate life beyond politics. Some political blowhards just don't get it, and can speak of nothing else.

  • Feb. 17, 2012, 9:17 p.m. CST

    mcgootoo - Same to you

    by room23storeblogspotcom

    I respect you also. I enjoy talking about Fringe and Comics and appriciate your keeping LL and BR in line. Speaking of which I haven't seen them in a day or two.

  • Feb. 17, 2012, 11:33 p.m. CST

    awesome FRINGE *spoilers

    by da-giez

    I was surprised Olivia knew so much so quick. The man behind it, should have known from a few weeks back. Surprised that this real Nina wsn't offed though, just captive. EP played out well. Next week's must be the last new till April, looks HUGE!! They better renew this show!

  • Feb. 17, 2012, 11:36 p.m. CST

    Oh... *Spoiler

    by da-giez

    Nice Nod to the John Scott series run. I'm almost shocked they haven't found a way to bring him back.... or is that "yet"... :)

  • Feb. 17, 2012, 11:56 p.m. CST

    wow... my dvr wasnt recording Supernatural

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    I was about to scream "why does Herc keep mentioning SN? theres no new episodes!"... good thing I checked my DVR... anyone know how many new eps theres been since the break?

  • Feb. 18, 2012, 12:06 a.m. CST

    I agree another awesome episode!

    by room23storeblogspotcom

    So many references to previous episodes, Peters affair with Fauxlivia, the Ghost Network in season 1 along with the one with the cortexifan guy that influenced others emotions, along with the pilot/John Scott. There were also a few references to season 3 cases, they even referenced Peters conman past in Monacco. I'm also curious as to why the Nina shapeshifter didn't need to kill the original.?.? Great classic stuff!

  • Feb. 18, 2012, 12:14 a.m. CST

    If it's going to end

    by mongo126

    it looks like Fringe is finally stepping up. So much coolness going on with everything and next week we get backstory to the Observers. Please Fox, either renew this or at least give them time to wrap it up. Good shit right now.

  • Feb. 18, 2012, 5:38 a.m. CST

    Another great Fringe....

    by BangoSkank

    I know I dumped on the first few episodes of the season, but it's been kicking ass for weeks.

  • Feb. 18, 2012, 6:24 a.m. CST

    Spartacus this year is pretty lackluster so far

    by FrodoFraggins

    Fringe is decent but definitely seems to be winding down. Supernatural has a great villain this year and the writers seem to be ignoring him like they ignored Lucifer when he returned.

  • Feb. 18, 2012, 8:24 a.m. CST

    Fringe = WIN. Spartacus = FAIL.

    by AshokForgiven

    This year the highlight of my week is Fringe Friday with Anna Torv!!! PLZ RENEW IT, FOX.

  • Feb. 18, 2012, 8:41 a.m. CST

    Ha! Just like fucking clockwork!!!

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    As predictable as he is stupid, Jay2517 proves yet again that he is an abject cunt who has nothing to offer beyond partisan hackery and assumptive projections based on his epistemic closure-filled delusion. Be careful though; he may just call you a little man while making an online threat. Oooooo, so scary. I've seen some outright liars and slander merchants on AICN before but Jaybell is starting to take the cake.

  • Feb. 18, 2012, 8:43 a.m. CST

    Ashokforgiven

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    SPARTACUS = Fail?!?! You shut yo mouth!!

  • Feb. 18, 2012, 9:44 a.m. CST

    Don't think Nina is a shapeshifter.

    by cookylamoo

    Think it's earth 4 Nina Sharpe.

  • Oh, such a biog fuzzz that there's finally a kiss in FINGE! Meanwhile, nudity and fucking every five minutes in SPARTACUS. And real badassery. And actualy thoughs put into plots that actually make dramatic sense. Yeah, right, pussy ass Fringe is better then Spartacus. What bullshit!

  • Feb. 18, 2012, 9:54 a.m. CST

    Observers

    by Real Deal

    Things are progressing at a really good pace now. And I'm not sure who ( or what ) the Observers are so it's unpredicable. I like that! Can't wait for next week. I still think Peter already is home and the Observers ( through the machine ) just monkeyed with this universe. I think that's why things are falling into place for Olivia. And yes given that DRJ is in the next one I think Nina is a shape shifter and Jones is trying the same type of grand scheme he was in season one.

  • Feb. 18, 2012, 9:54 a.m. CST

    Fringe better then Spartacus = EPIC FAIL.

    by AsimovLives

  • Feb. 18, 2012, 11:29 a.m. CST

    asimovlives -

    by Michael Lunney

    Howdy- did you watch Asimov episode of Prophets of SF this week? Hope all is well with you....

  • Feb. 18, 2012, 12:45 p.m. CST

    mcgootoo

    by AsimovLives

    Recuperation is going great, thanks for asking. According to my surgeon, i have the healing powers of Wolverine. Now all i need is an undestructable skelleton and badass metal claws and i can go fight crime. Kidding aside, things are going pretty well for me. Good news then. I alomost fogot about PRPHETS of SF. That's the show produced by Ridley Scott, isn't it? Need to check it out.

  • Fucking geekasm right there!

  • Feb. 18, 2012, 12:47 p.m. CST

    asimovlives

    by Chrononaut

    So all it takes to entertain you is nudity, swearing, violence, and plenty of cock. Duly noted the next time you start raging about Zack Snyder or JJ Abrams and how they appeal to the lowest common denominator, they're total hacks, etc. You're so full of shit it's coming out your ears. Please explain how Spartacus is more intelligent and thought-provoking than Fringe. I like Spartacus enough to tune in, but it's basically well-made trash television. Really haven't found much substance to the series as a whole.

  • Feb. 18, 2012, 1 p.m. CST

    THE LIFE AND TIMES OF TIM

    by Chrononaut

    Not enough love for this show. It has the lo-fi look of something like Home Movies or South Park, with the awkward situational/conversational humor of Curb Your Enthusiasm. I've loved it since the first season and I think this season was the funniest yet. Lots of really funny guest stars such as Fred Willard, Super Dave, Tim Meadows, Bob Saget, etc. Last night was the season finale, and the way it ended (coupled with the fact that HBO canceled the series before bringing it back this season) makes me wonder if that was the series finale as well.

  • Since when does that hackboy has any clue about what is good proper SF? Him of all people? Jesus wept!!

  • Feb. 18, 2012, 1:12 p.m. CST

    chrononaut

    by AsimovLives

    Don0't be daft.Those elements do sure help, though. At leasst is shows the authors are not affraid to present adult themes to their stories, instead of pussified teen bullshit crap. Sex is part of life, why can't fction have it as swell, hem? Today's television looks like it's made for Mormons!

  • Feb. 18, 2012, 1:14 p.m. CST

    asimovlives

    by Michael Lunney

    The show is well worth seeing despite its lapses. Have you seen any episodes? I don't even remember Orci being on it.

  • Feb. 18, 2012, 1:19 p.m. CST

    mcgootoo

    by AsimovLives

    I'm now watching gthe PHILIP K DICK episode and sure enough Orci shows his ugly mug in that episode. It''s for 7 seconds or so, but enough to almost ruin my entire evening, as it would. I pray to Crom he doesn't come back!

  • Feb. 18, 2012, 1:24 p.m. CST

    asimovlives

    by Chrononaut

    Now you're being daft. You can't expect a network show like Fringe to show as much as a premium cable show like Spartacus, and you can't blame the writers or producers for that. It's just a fact. We here in North America are apparently too sensitive to see such things on our network programming. Given those constraints, Fringe does an admirable job of being a mature show without resorting to nudity, swearing, or extreme violence. I actually respect the show more because of that. Spartacus goes too far in the opposite direction for my liking. If I want to watch a porno, I'll watch a porno. I find all the sex and nudity a bit distracting, in fact, and it seems like a cheap and easy way to attract viewers. The sex and nudity, followed by the violence, are usually the first things that any (male) fan of Spartacus mentions when the show is being discussed. That kind of proves my point.

  • Feb. 18, 2012, 1:29 p.m. CST

    Fucking cunt shows uptwice in the episode already! Fucking ass!!!!

    by AsimovLives

  • Feb. 18, 2012, 1:35 p.m. CST

    Yes, Fringe is such a mature show. Of course!

    by AsimovLives

    Forgive me if i express my skepticism and disagreement with laughter.

  • Feb. 18, 2012, 1:48 p.m. CST

    Bill Mahr

    by MegaBeth

    I have watched Mahr's show a few times. After close inspection, I have decided he is a silly cunt.

  • Feb. 18, 2012, 2:10 p.m. CST

    @real deal

    by scors54

    I agree with your assessment completely. There is no "4th Universe" this is simply the fallout from what the Observers did to the "first" universe in trying to delete Peter after he brought Universe 1 and 2 together. The bits of memory that are flooding back are simply thing righting them selves again. Hopefully, the mystery of the observers will be revealed completely next week, or at least over two episodes and set up the season, and probably, series finale. I really think that this show, watched as a continuum on DVD once the final season is released, will prove to be more coherent than the X-Files which, while I loved it early on, overstayed its welcome VERY badly and went into severe ADHD in terms of having any coherence to its resolution of the mythology arc.

  • because from the look of next weeks' preview it seems like it could be a season/series finale (not to mention it's called The End Of all Things). but it's only episode 14. Damn this is gettin good<br> <br> The last scene of the kid in his room, his mother wasn't really there, was she? That was some manifestation of his? because Astrid didn't even react to her. Plus I was starting to wonder if that actor and Josh Jackson were related in real life. Kid has the exact same eyes as Jackson.

  • Orci, stop showing up on a TV show about great Sf authors, you have no right to be there, spweing your brain-numbing shallow banalities. Stop polluting the show with your presence. Show some fucking respect, hackboy. You are out of your league talking about such genious as Philip K. Dick, in a Tv show producedand hosted by another great man of SF, Ridley Scott. You do not belong there. Know your place, hackboy, and keep yourself in the low decks where you belong.

  • Feb. 18, 2012, 2:28 p.m. CST

    plus, speaking of Fridays, do any of you watch HUSTLE on the BBC?

    by TheSeeker7

    the irony is, they just had their series finale last night, I Dl'd by torrent and going to watch now. It's about a group of con men doing their thing in London, it's like a British (and much better) version of Leverage. This was just their 8th season/series. Though it was the right time to end it, it'd had been going down hill the last couple of years, big story twists being VERY predictable. But its first 5 years or so, among the best shows on the planet.

  • Feb. 18, 2012, 2:48 p.m. CST

    asimovlives -

    by Michael Lunney

    Geez, just ignore the guy. I hope you are at least getting something positive from the show. I thought of you as I was watching the Asimov episode, and wondered if you were also watching it. i met Asimov once in the early 70s at an SF convention. He always had great sideburns. Great man.

  • Feb. 18, 2012, 2:54 p.m. CST

    *sigh* ok gaius, one more time...

    by jay2517

    truth and facts are NOT "partisan hackery". Maher IS a liar. Maher IS a misogynist. Maher IS (by his OWN standards) a racist. Maher IS a bigot. Maher DOES distort information for HIS "political hackery". Maher IS a liar. Maher IS a hypocrite. this is all FACT. i have provided examples. but, in all of ur glorious hypocrisy, u call it "partisan" (typical of progressives lol) yet u DONT EVEN WATCH THE SHOW. u are the epitome of what Maher IS. a coward. I've seen some outright liars and slander merchants on AICN before but Jaybell is starting to take the cake.---- u say that all the time, BUT u never provide examples of my "slander". typical progressive tactic. im sure u do ur "hero" Maher proud. quit trolling my posts if u cant keep up, watch his show or at least provide evidence of ur baseless accusations. coward. BTW- figured mcgoo would just call names and run when facts are presented. ubercoward.

  • Feb. 18, 2012, 2:56 p.m. CST

    mcgootoo

    by AsimovLives

    The shbows are great. But i can't find the Asimov episode on youtube. So i watched gthe one about Philip K. Dick instead. Good stuff, thansk for calling my attention to it. Asimov's sideburns were the stuff of epic. He made them badass. It's said that once Asimov suffered from writer's block. It was the worst 10 minutes of his life.

  • Feb. 18, 2012, 3:15 p.m. CST

    Fucking hell, you're a stupid person, Jaybell.

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Truth and facts are emperical. However, what you do with them is make assumptions and partisan conclusions in order to make slanderous declarations about people that you perceive to be of a different political ilk. IT'S THAT FUCKING SIMPLE. Am I shocked that you still can't grasp this distinction? Not in the least. Just look at the increasingly vacuous nature of your bile-ridden posts. You still don't get the point. It would be hilarious if it weren't so sad. And for the last (?) time, if you don't want me responding to your tripe, quit trolling these Talkbacks. This is AICN and if you can't stand the heat...get out if the kitchen, bitch.

  • Feb. 18, 2012, 3:26 p.m. CST

    Maher is pretty insufferable

    by Chrononaut

    And no, I am absolutely not a conservative. He's a brainless blowhard know-it-all equivalent to the talk-radio loudmouths on the right like Rush Limbaugh. I agree with many of his viewpoints, i.e. legalizing marijuana, but the way he expresses them is often detrimental to the cause. Hate when he childishly mentions smoking pot like that makes him some cool badass. His jokes often rely on racism or sexism... I'd love him to get through one show without a joke about how Obama is black.

  • Feb. 18, 2012, 3:27 p.m. CST

    asimovlives -

    by Michael Lunney

    hope you get to see all the other episodes

  • Feb. 18, 2012, 3:59 p.m. CST

    HEY ASSHOLE!!!!

    by Michael Lunney

    yeah, knew you'd look- some idiots just don't comprehend the word ignore, apparently. I don't try to communicate with brain dead idiots just looking for a mindless fight, who repeat pundit hatred disguised as political discourse. That's for idiots like you. Insult to bait. Too futile, too pathetic.

  • Feb. 18, 2012, 4:27 p.m. CST

    Spartacus lures you with the promise of violence, sex and nudity.

    by Volllllume3

    That's true. BUT it HOOKS you with the consistent writing and subplots of it's characters.

  • Feb. 18, 2012, 8:59 p.m. CST

    Prophets of Science Fiction

    by angry kitty

    Is very enjoyable. Thanks for the recommendation Mcgootoo. After the Asimov episode, they re-ran the HG Wells one. 2hrs well spent. Just wish they had these onDemand.

  • Feb. 18, 2012, 11:19 p.m. CST

    bigger *sigh* at gaius... u know what IS stupid?

    by jay2517

    its how u CANNOT and NEVER CAN refute the facts i post about Bill Maher. if they are "emperical" and "partisan"....PLEASE back up ur claims and SHOW US HOW! prove me wrong. thats all u have to do! the thing is, U CAN'T. thats why u resort to the typical progressive name calling and deflection. prove. me. wrong. ITS THAT FUCKING SIMPLE, coward. u say i dont get the point? Y-O-U troll MY posts saying how incorrect they are. PROVE IT. COWARD. And for the last (?) time, if you don't want me responding to your tripe, quit trolling these Talkbacks. This is AICN and if you can't stand the heat...get out if the kitchen, bitch.---- again, coward, if its "tripe" just PROVE it. i dont mind heat if its warranted. u, however, are lacking... and the ubercoward mcgoo---I don't try to communicate with brain dead idiots just looking for a mindless fight, who repeat pundit hatred disguised as political discourse.--- same to u, coward. simple PROVE me wrong. and seek help for ur projection man! see the perfect example below... That's for idiots like you. Insult to bait. Too futile, too pathetic.--- ur a sad little feller...

  • Feb. 19, 2012, 1:23 a.m. CST

    Which Nina * Spoiler

    by da-giez

    Oh boy, shapeshifters usually kiil and take their shape, yet the one Nina is tied up... Now what? Nina 4? What's 4? How many crosses we see, 3? 4? 5? Ugh, love it but needs splainin'...

  • Feb. 19, 2012, 2:21 a.m. CST

    It's not "grizzliest"..

    by UnclePuppethead

    Grizzliest" would be the most "Grizzly Bear-like

  • And as our friend volllllume3 so well said, in the end it's the writing, the characters and the compeling plots that stays with you and hooks you up to this fine show.

  • Problem solved.

  • Feb. 19, 2012, 6:42 a.m. CST

    Hey jay, hey pa - how is it with you, folks?

    by wtriker1701

    We just got our President Wulff stepping back from his presidency. At least for the moment, the world seems to swing in the right direction. He seemed to be a real money taker - form all parts of the industry. So much for that! Now The Search For Spock continues... Fringe continues to be awesome - after lackluster season 3 (for me, at least). Spared Spartacus and Supernatural for a marathon next week. Waiting to be blown awaaaay by awesomeness!

  • Feb. 19, 2012, 8:13 a.m. CST

    More Spartacus Love here

    by pumaman

    By Jupiters cock, the series kicked it up a notch. Episode 4's ending gave me goosebumps. They had better be thinking of renewing this show for a 4th season or Starz will have big cock shoved up arse.

  • Feb. 19, 2012, 8:45 a.m. CST

    Oh jay... and sorry...

    by wtriker1701

    but he's (Wulff) a real conservative... Luv u though, brutha! ;-)

  • Feb. 19, 2012, 9:29 a.m. CST

    Spartacus is a shoo in for another season

    by Extr3m1st

  • Feb. 19, 2012, 11:43 a.m. CST

    extr3m1st, that's good news.

    by AsimovLives

  • Feb. 19, 2012, 6:29 p.m. CST

    whats up wriker?

    by jay2517

    im doing great. well, unless u ask the poor little cowards mcgoo or gauis. apparently, to them, i have a horrible life lol. how are u? i hope ur doing well and i "luv" u too broheim. BTW- u cant win'em all LOL...

  • Feb. 19, 2012, 6:36 p.m. CST

    dahveed....

    by jay2517

    ....in order to be a comic u first have to be funny, but i digress lol. anyway, i get ur point, but my point is this...in order to have a dissenting valid opinion on something u first have to be informed on said topic. i am NOT a hypocrite. so in order to expose Maher as the piece of shit that he is, i first must watch his show. wish i didnt have to watch, but dems da breaks in life. BTW- thats why i watch WAY MORE of MSNBC than Fox or CNN etc. cant be a hypocritical progressive :)

  • Feb. 19, 2012, 6:40 p.m. CST

    oh yea dahveed...

    by jay2517

    Maher is a bigot, racist, misogynist, liar and distorter that disguises all of that as "comedy". its the ultimate in cowardice. what? i offended black people?? wait! its just "comedy". what? i offended over half of America?? it's just a "joke"! we cant have that cowardice go unchecked...

  • Feb. 20, 2012, 9:10 a.m. CST

    Anyone here watch Life and Times of Tim?

    by Tim

    Great season, brilliant ending! If that was the final episode ever, that was an outstanding way to go out.

  • Feb. 20, 2012, 9:25 a.m. CST

    I'm fine, jay! Doin' well with my two grandsons - Luke and Lasse!

    by wtriker1701

    The former is 4 years old, the latter nearly 1. They're real fun - and Luke (despite of his Star Wars releated name) is much into the USS Enterprise. Just like his grandpa! Hope ur family is well, too! Am I right, one member of yours is called Y***? Lovely!

  • It's just been done so often, especially with this show. Also if this doesn't turn out to be the real Olivia, Peter will probably end up sleeping with 3 separate ones. That's like sleeping with triplets, way to go!

  • Feb. 20, 2012, 7:49 p.m. CST

    thats great! glad to hear...

    by jay2517

    i hope u keep having a great time with them. and glad to hear that Luke is keeping the up the "make it so" tradition lol. my little ladies are doing great and the littlest one wants me to take her to the 3D Star Wars. shes a big fan. btw- Star Trek (2009) came on FX this weekend. it still holds up pretty great on repeat viewings even with extra lens flare LOL! keep in touch brotha...