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Previous Cast Not In TRANS4MERS??
Merrick here...
A few days ago, Producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura revealed that Michael Bay would be directing another TRANSFORMERS film for 2014 (which had previously been presumed, but not taken-for-granted), and that said project would be something of a reboot..."an evolution"...maintaining some level of continuity with the Bayverse TRANSFORMERS pictures that've come before, while also shaking up the franchise a bit. This in sharp contrast to THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN, which appears to be starting the whole shebang all over again.
In that interview (linked above), di Bonaventura was non-committal regarding whether any of the original cast from the first three films would return for a fourth go-round. It may well be too early in the picture's development to know for sure, but Josh Duhamel, who played Captain (later Major) Lennox in the first three movies seems to pretty much confirm he's not coming back. But he may not be the only one who won't be returning.
Per THIS discussion with E!
"I don't think anybody's doing it," Josh Duhamel told us last night at the launch party for Sony PlayStation's new PS Vita portable entertainment system. "I know Shia [LaBoeuf]'s not doing it. I don't think Tyrese or Rosie [Huntington-Whiteley] or anybody else is doing it."
A largely refreshed cast had been inferred and/or conjectured since word came last year that any future TRANSFORMERS films might skew in new directions...but this appears to be our clearest indicator yet that the casting situation may, indeed, be a clean sweep.
THIS SAID: as stated above, it may be too early to know for sure. There are any number of ways previous cast members might appear in this new film, and with a script not yet put in place, who knows what'll happen?
The most recent installment in the saga, DARK OF THE MOON, took many knocks, but it was the first TRANSFORMERS movie that didn't rub me in some wrong direction. And that final forty five minutes or so is glorious madness of the Bayiest order. Hope there were lessons taken to heart which propagate into this new iteration of the franchise.
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Nonononononononononono!!!!!!
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Rip off the 1985 animated movie & set it in the future. No returning cast, tons of Autobots on Earth, Decepticons in some other part of the galaxy, & Unicron. They pretty much ruined the Matrix of Leaderhip (?) in TF2 but you can have a big Unicron story without it.
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Feb. 16, 2012, 1:05 p.m. CST
maybe this time it will follow the original series more?
by vosborne951
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Cue quote from BAY: "We'll get it right this time guys, I promise" (fingers crossed behind back).
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Now that this franchise has reached stratospheric levels, Bay will be very reluctant to let anyone but him bask in the glory of the films box-office success. Sadly, we'll never get another director. To many over the top comedic performances in the last movie.
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Starring Shia LaBeouf and Megan Fox. Actors gotta eat...
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I don't mind a reboot but what do we expect? More of the same Victoria's Secret commercials with giant alien robots? A kid friendly version that is closer to the cartoon? A violent R rated version full of brutality? Where will they go with this? (And I want to apologize for being critical of Rosie Huntington-Whiteley... once I saw her in her role in Transformers 3, I did get a bit of a crush on her... she is pretty cute and she played the role very well and had a great wit, kudos).
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Talk about an acting tour de force. The 3.4 minutes he was in for the last three films was EPIC. How is the series going to survive? We should hold a funeral and broadcast it live on Sat and have all flags at half mast. Oh wait. That is for the other joke of a media distraction.
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Still from Bay's colon, here's merely eaten something different.
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Since Bay has seem to be talking to James Cameron and there's those rumors that this one is going to concentrate more on the Transformers themselves, he's going to be using Avatar techniques and have actors playing out the CG characters.
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Thats all i ask
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Thank you Mr. Bay for NOT ending the series when you could have. Leave it to Prime's voice over to end the "Trilogy" with a thud instead of actually ending the damn thing in a good way. SO many better ways you could've done that shit! Fuck a 4th one cause we are already getting one in "Battleship."
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Feb. 16, 2012, 1:23 p.m. CST
make a buddy cop movie about Bay and Apatow teaming up against an editor who wants to cut their movie to less than 3 hours
by Spandau Belly
make a buddy cop movie about Bay and Apatow teaming up against an editor who wants to cut their movie to less than 3 hours, it could be like Tango & Cash
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Who gives a shit? The only reason why Bay is back because his shitty movies keep making money ... because people fucking pay money to see them ... Fuck those people!
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If they MUST make another one, do the animated movie into live action...er CGI. Unicron is the only badguy that would raise the bar from out of the abyss of shit they've already done. Hollywood is too dumb to do it though, whatever.
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I could see Diesel blowing up Unicron with his car and then coming to a stop just at the edge of a cliff and Vin saying "Pussy." Meanwhile Paul Walker "What's up Mr. Robot? Hu hu!!" I'd see that shit. BRING IT!!!
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The coolness of the classic series was that it was ABOUT the transformers first and the humans were (a close) secondary characters. The story was from THEIR perspective, observing the fact that "our world is in the hands of the enemy, and we must stage or plan of attack from this primitive world with it's human occupants". Make it that way and I'm all in!!
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Fuck these movies because the transformers are impossible to look at ... too many fucking moving parts ... the action is unwatchable... Giant robots fighting ... how can it be that difficult to get right?
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sure they weren't the best, but the bigger problem is the Director and what is expected from a Transformers movie. I hate, yes HATE, these movies and I wish they'd just go away!
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sorry for the typo!
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Feb. 16, 2012, 1:54 p.m. CST
weed brownies, leg humping, robot balls, toothless butchers,
by Larry Sellers
and seedy Russian nightclubs do NOT a Transformers movie make. Go back to the tone of the first and keep it focused on the robots. I know I'm nostalgic for a 20 minute toy commercial, but it doesn't mean the screenplay has to blow. I just want to be entertained without a bunch of unnecessary subplots and gags. Focus on the robots. Draw on a good story from the comics or cartoons, give the Transformers some actual personalities. Bay has only been part of the problem. The rest is the script.
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And I liked Shia's character, and Megan, and Rosie, and Josh. Heck, I even liked Sam's parents in the film. They were given some weird dialogue to work with, but I enjoyed the characters. I was thrilled to have Peter Cullen back and even to hear Frank Welker as Soundwave brought a smile to my face. As much as we complain, there were some great elements to the film. The tree battle in 2, the climax in 3... hell, after seeing the 1st one, I kept hallucinating over the next few days that the cars around me would suddenly transform into autobots. So kudos to ILM for pulling off convincing robots and their transformations. I don't mind Michael Bay as an action director. He is great at what he does with that. But part of me would like something more on par with the spirit of the original TV series. The banter between Megatron and Starscream for example. As terrible as the scripts were for the cartoon, they had a playful and fun magic about them. Sure we're too old for that now but... ah hell, I am rambling. I'll just shut up now. We'll see just what Bay does with this.
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and maybe rightly so... but what other films do they want paramount to produce... apart from hating bay. haters never really explain why they hate these movies so much. what other films do they want the studios to produce... david cameron has said that he wants to see 4 kings speech type films a year. Cameron is a gaffe prone idiot as a prime minister. lord fellowes who created downton abbey agrees with the prime minister. no more minority films. more big budget films. and all this to take on hollywood. uk govt has decided that it will no longer fund small budget british films. which is a terrible pity. that new film with dame maggie smith, dame judy dench, celia imria, tom wilkinson and ronald pickup and dev patel doesnt look to bad.
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Feb. 16, 2012, 2:07 p.m. CST
Cool we heard this exact news from the original announcement.
by UltraTron
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It'd be a shame to see Peter Cullen go.
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Feb. 16, 2012, 2:13 p.m. CST
They are hated because it had a robot PISSING on somebody
by Mike Myers
Another robot farted a parachute. Another robot showing his BALLS climbing on a pyramid. Two annoying as hell jivebots that were ugly, unfunny, and to some racist. My five year old thought the jokes were stupid.
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Feb. 16, 2012, 2:13 p.m. CST
Maybe this film will tell us what the Autobots were doing...
by Jaster Mareel
When they were constantly dissapearing off screen.
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I was hoping the Nest guys would stick around.
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I knew this was gonna happen. they all said they wouldnt come back. So get new people, make it more about the robots and set it in the future... easy!
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is a sign of audience intelligence returning. What if there was a Michael Bay film and nobody came? Yeah, I know, I'm dreaming.
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Feb. 16, 2012, 2:26 p.m. CST
You know, Josh's was probably the best character in the first 3 . . .
by Rob Jenson
. . . not that that means much. I'm just hoping for the Shia-parents spin-off. Please please please.
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Bay (calling Spielberg) - "yo Stevey, you in 4 more? Spielberg- "no F*ing way... and stop calling me" Bay- (calling Megan Fox's agent) "he's out" Agent - "she's in"
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It'll focus mainly on the marines or some other millitary faction (Blackwater) ...fighting with giant robots from another planet against other robots. The millitary's take over of Hollywood movies continues! Would you like to know more?
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I think it's telling that even with the addition of 3D ticket sales, TF3 made nearly 50 million dollars LESS than TF2. Now, I know that when we're still talking hundreds of millions of dollars, 50 mil is a fart in a windstorm, but factoring in the padding 3D prices made to the overall box office take, that actually makes it even more of a drop in attendance for the series. In the US. But unfortunately for us, international returns more than made up for it.
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...do a crossover with 'Big Momma's House', with one of the Autobots disguising itself as Martin Lawrence disguising himself as Big Momma's House. The post-credits sequence could feature a Will Smith cameo, seguing into 'Bad Boys and Big Mommas'.
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Can you imagine what Paul Verhoeven's Transformers would be like? Where's Casper Van Dien? Get to whatever university Peter Weller is teaching at and get his ass to the set! Or perhaps he could provide the voice for one of the Autobots or Decepticons. Oh, and this being a Verhoeven hard R-rated Transformers film, I think Megan Fox should return to the franchise for this one.
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Feb. 16, 2012, 3:04 p.m. CST
Maybe Transformers 4 can mash together with Battle LA and Battleship?
by lv_426
Aaron Eckhardt and Liam Neeson fighting alongside Optimus Prime. Hell, bring in Bill Pullman as the president from Independence Day go nuts. At this point, as long as there are tons of Baysplosions, does it even need to make sense anymore?
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The producers of the flick would never allow that. they would loose out on merchandising and kid's tickets and video games, well maybe not video games. lol.
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and Jon Voight - Bernie Mac (RIP), Anthony Anderson - some good fun performances - it was a silly over the top movie based on toys. - the first one. The second should have shaved an hour off - eliminated some robots - and not have Optimus Prime (the real main character - let's be honest) out of commission for most of the movie. That was idiotic. And I haven't seen the 3rd movie so I can't comment. I know everyone is disappointed.
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Feb. 16, 2012, 3:48 p.m. CST
You can't "George Lucas" something that was never that cool in the first place
by kidicarus
Sure, I had Transformers as a kid and watched the cartoon, but its not like Bay is shitting on a hallowed franchise or anything.
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Feb. 16, 2012, 3:50 p.m. CST
Drop the human cast, keep Cullen and just give us Unicron already.
by Chuck
And I am begging you, please please PLEASE do not call it Trans4mers. Also, for the love of whatever deity you believe in, no more Linkin Park.
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One is going up Michael Bay's nose, the other is coming out his arse.
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Okay, you know those Transformers posters you see in comic book/collectible stores, where they're all bunched in together, attacking each other, the artwork is really detailed, right down to the black joints showing in their knuckles, their eyes have a Photoshop glow, etc. The comic books have covers like that, the toys have that look as well on the backing cards. Basically, what the Transformers look like everywhere BUT in Bay's movies. Make the fourth movie, where the robots LOOK... LIKE... THAT!!! Hell, just scan those overpriced masterpiece figures into a computer and put them on screen, *shooting* at each other. Yeah, shooting. With lasers. They can still look cool on a movie screen, even when they look just like their action figure/animated selves.
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Feb. 16, 2012, 4:19 p.m. CST
I fell for the 'we know 2 was shit, so we made 3 good' bullshit
by Raptor Jesus
Never again.
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Feb. 16, 2012, 4:36 p.m. CST
I don't think actors and scripts are very important to Bay....
by cameron
.....He researches his movies by fapping to FHM mag and listening to loud cheesey rock music.
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Seconded.
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Feb. 16, 2012, 4:47 p.m. CST
Everythign about a Michael Bay movie is full of lies, anway. So take any news about it with a grain of salt.
by AsimovLives
Or rather, a truckload of salt.
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haters never really explain why they hate these movies so much.
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Feb. 16, 2012, 4:55 p.m. CST
Dwayne Johnson and Jeremy Renner will be in this... cause they just LOVE sequels.
by ChickenStu
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Feb. 16, 2012, 5:06 p.m. CST
bayformers movies are a clear case of "fool me once sham on you, fool me twicw, shame on me"
by AsimovLives
who is going to get fooled to watch another Bayformers movie again, anyway?
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Feb. 16, 2012, 5:10 p.m. CST
We've explained REPEATEDLY what's wrong with Bayformers
by Chief Joseph
Check the other talkbacks. People are still discussing it here. You must be Helen Keller to have missed all those discussions.
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Feb. 16, 2012, 5:17 p.m. CST
As long as the annoying parents, Shia, and the gay chihuahua are gone, they can do whatever they want
by mdk
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Feb. 16, 2012, 5:19 p.m. CST
It'll hurt it in the box office. But it will still make money.
by wcolbert
Because some people just don't pay attention to the stink of shit when they smell it. They'll go to see it simply because it has the "Transformers" title. Besides, I'm not sure THAT many people really gave a shit about Shit LeBeef. As for the model, and Megan Fox, the only way they'd have even been a blip on my radar in those movies would be if they got naked and rubbed themselves with autobot lube.
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You're wrong. There is no hate for the man. He HAS talent and he knows his shit. where he seriously goes wrong is with the characters and the Story. The most important part, regardless of what type of movie you're making. Yes have the spectacle and have your 200 million dollar Visual Effects, but for gods sake give us something to hang on to!
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Feb. 16, 2012, 5:45 p.m. CST
Okay stop with this "haters never really explain why they hate the movie"
by Andrew Coleman
Um the defenders never explain why these movies should be defended! I hate the Transformers movies for almost unlimited reasons... First off the "humor" is fucking horrible and dated. They throw dozens of pointless human characters at us for the sake of comedy but the problem is none of it is funny. The first two films never got the action down right. Too much shaky came... Making the Autobots and Decepticons look identical and the masses of metal was not a good idea. Not until Bay had to slow down for 3D in the third did the action get any better. The entire second "film" plot makes little to no sense. They throw racist shit everywhere like the ice cream truck robots. Robot balls. The pyramids are in Jordan(What the fuck retards look at a map!)... Washington D.C. somehow has a desert in it where they place hundreds of old planes... What the fuck? The list of things to hate are fucking endless. I didn't even get to the bad acting but what is the point in even discussing that?
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Bay has talent??? He has none whatsoever. And there is hate about Bay. I'm one of the haters, and proud of it.
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I feel your pain and hate and I'm generally right there with you hating on him. However, to be honest, he does have talent and that's why he's making movies (which I promise you is a skill in itself, ask any film maker how tough it is). We sit and make judgements but it's a tough business and Bay has managed to put himself near the top in this industry. I don't know how he's done it, but he has. I, personally, prefer movies with more heart. Bay's movies have no heart all!
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DAMN YOU MICHAEL BAY
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Feb. 16, 2012, 8:17 p.m. CST
Good news! The cast was the weakest part of the movies. Bring in the adults.
by planetran_fan
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They're replacing the current cast for a minstrel show of CGI dog penises in blackface making scat jokes for six hours.
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Feb. 16, 2012, 9:27 p.m. CST
Who cares about the humans...but no Peter Cullen.. NO Transformers...
by DJJester
He IS Optimus Prime and while Gary Chalk has done well in some incarnations.. its just not the same.
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as to why Bayformers sucks. But on behalf of all of us who actually like the movies, we don't really care. While it could have been this or it could have been that, it is what it is. If you were a film director with a ton of money, you would make a shitty movie about your favorite cartoons and action figures too, and a lot of people such as yourself would think up lots of reasons why it sucks. Thats why film critics should all go suck each others crab infested dicks. That being said...it really wasnt the best trilogy...esp. ROTF. But thats not to say they shouldn't keep trying. Hey it took Edison 2000 attempts to get the light bulb right.
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Feb. 17, 2012, 12:29 a.m. CST
I liked all three of the movies Bay made, and loved the cast... Shia was great as Sam fuck the haters.
by ThaJackaL
Sorry about the I
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Because calling it Transformer5 just isn't inventive enough... O_O
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he wasnt the first either... Edison that is...
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The reason Bay makes movies is because others slave on them while he bitches and shouts and acts like a spoiled child around them. He ameks mvies because so far he has had support from the studios. Had Bay not his back protected by the studios, there wouldn't be a single onset where he wouldn't get punched by an actor or crew member. Bruce Willism himself said he would never ever work with Bay again (and problably do him body harm if meet him ever again) just because of his petulant childish attitude onset. Some filmmakers are very hadass onset, like Cameron and ridley Scott, but the crews understand it's becasue this guys are perfectionists and they are raly pushing for the best result possible. Bay pushes everybody because he can, because he's an heartless asshole.
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Fuck you michael bay. Just fuck you.
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Bump it up to the future and give the humans some spaceships. Sam's son is now a 38 year old badass leader of Nest. The robots could always send someone back in time if they want to bring back any old cast members for future sequels
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a group of aliens with high tech robot bodies close off a section at sea and the only ones that can defend earth are navy hard asses on Battleships. Include a sassy black chick... oh and have Liam Neeson be the general. what?.. what are you talking about? .. you mean they're making this movie already? well f*ck me...
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They have a standing relationship w/ the Autobots, w/o being an angsting teenager. Those two I would LOVE to see in further films, even if I hadn't had the chance to meet Tyrese at BotCon 2009, or Josh during the DC taping of DotM. I think their military &/or mercenary type characters work well in the Bayverse. Pity there won't be much confirmed at BotCon in April.
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is that the whole sequence that begins with the army 'squirrel flying' through to the building fall would have been ABSOLUTELY FUCKING AMAZING if you had any character or story point of referance to give a shit about.
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Feb. 18, 2012, 12:27 a.m. CST
It frustrates me how much of a missed opportunity Transformers is...
by Relugus
I've gone over why Bayformers sucks so many times in detail, but these points need to be repeated because they are important. Bay has no feel for the Transformers as characters, to him they are just CGI things to make the things go boom. I wanted to see the characters up there on the big screen, interacting with each other, the classic Transformers characters and relationships, and I am not talking about the humans. I went over that in a previous post a few days back, but I suggest people read the tech specs bios, you'll be astonished at how varied the TF characters are, and wonder how Bay could reduce them to boring drones. Runabout and Runamuck instead of the "Dreads" would have made that car chase much, much more fun. Unlike Skidz and Mudflap, Runabout and Runamuck are actually funny. And how's about the actual Skids instead of Bay's retard? I'd love to see Grimlock, but not for explosions or hitting things, no, what would excite me is seeing him argue with Optimus Prime, with some great, smart dialogue between the two, some real dramatic character stuff to go with the action. Likewise, Megatron is a far more interesting character when he has to contend with Shockwave, Ratbat, Starscream, Straxus, Bludgeon, and other usurpers. The Decepticon backstabbing for leadership was one of the coolest aspects of the comics. The fact that Ratchet gets almost no screen time tells you everything; the Transformers are just there to make explosions. Instead of Mirage, the shifty, snobby, aristocratic spy, one of the most intriguing Autobots, we got some drone called "Dino", and Bay replaced Wheeljack with a stupid looking Einstein headed no-mark called Q. What. The. Fuck. The only thing I liked was the Wreckers, and their UK voices reflecting the Wrecker's origins in the UK comics, but they had little screen time. Why do the Decepticons look alien whereas the Autobots look humanoid? That's a Hollywoodism that completely fucks up the core concept of Transformers. Whole point of the Autobots and Decepticons is that they are opposing ideological factions but are also very alike. When you make the Decepticons drones you've missed the point. As for the source material not being "hallowed", whereas the cartoons are indeed silly, the TF comics and graphic novels are a totally different matter. I'd argue that the best Transformers comics are as good as the best Batman comics. War Within, Target: 2006, Warrior School, The Wreckers, Dinobot Hunt, are superb comic book stories, pure and simple. Simon Furman's origin of the Transformers (issue 150 of the UK comic, its burned into my brain) is absolute genius. Seeing as Primus is not referred to in the movie-verse, its hard to see how Unicron can work in a Bayformers movie. I'm no purist (in my re-imagining of Transformers, Grimlock would transform into a tank and speak articulately, and many of the Transformers would have female voices, emphasising that they are asexual robots), but I do believe that the core elements and characters must hold true. You don't even have to make Transformers an action movie, you could make it a detective thriller focused on Autobot detective Nightbeat. LIVING Robots able to THINK and FEEL, each with INDIVIDUAL personalities and their own motives, who can transform into the likeness of vehicles, devices, etc. And what does Bay do with that? He makes things explode alot incoherently. Incidentally, if you have not seen the fan made adaptation of War Within, I suggest you check it out. The guy who voices Starscream is bloody amazing.
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