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Nordling here.

And, according to Variety, it's Jonathan Liebesman, director of WRATH OF THE TITANS and BATTLE: LOS ANGELES.

No word on casting yet, and Liebesman is probably not the first director to come to mind for this, considering his film roster.  Will it be in 3D?  I'd be surprised if it wasn't frankly.  I'm more excited about the screenwriters, Josh Appelbaum and Andre Nemec, who wrote MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE - GHOST PROTOCOL, which turned out really well (though I'm sure that's through the efforts of one Bradley Bird, Esquire, more than anything).  Michael Bay's Platinum Dunes is producing, which will probably give many people pause right there, considering their track record on reboots and remakes.

Will it be a grittier take on the story? Or will it be for kids?  We'll know soon enough...

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  • Feb. 15, 2012, 6:34 a.m. CST


    by runawayboulder

    ask questions later...

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 6:37 a.m. CST

    Let me guess....this one will be a much darker version

    by thatswhatshesaid

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 6:38 a.m. CST

    Hope they go old skool Eastman and Laird

    by steve

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 6:41 a.m. CST

    Reboot? Wasn't this rebooted some time ago already?

    by Ricardo

    You mean, a re-reboot re-imagining? You know, you could ALWAYS purchase and license Battletoads. It's practially the same shit, and there are no movies about it. Or just adapt a Shakespeare play. Richard III is pretty good.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 6:43 a.m. CST

    Grittier? It's about mutant turtles

    by Jeffwode

    It's hardly Ken Loach material isn't it?

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 6:43 a.m. CST

    biggest dissapointment of my life..

    by professorjack

    was reading the original TMNT comics are years of hearing how dark they were. I thought it was really going to be for adults. Guess what? It was still for little kids. Its talking turtles. I don't know why, everytime a TMNT movie is announced everyone hopes for it to be dark. A dark TMNT never existed! At their "Darkest" in the comic, its still not even as dark as a Harry Potter movie (which, at the end of the day, isn't that dark either).

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 6:46 a.m. CST

    Go Ninja, Go Ninja, GO!

    by AttackingClone

    Grew up on the toon. 1st 2 live action movies are awesome. Hope for the best. Will probably end up like Tranformers ie. have a soft spot for it coz I love the characters. But should have been better. Should just go buy the original films on DVD, haven't watched em for ages

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 6:48 a.m. CST


    by Jackson

    not looking forward to wrath of the titans becuz as evryone knows, the 1st sucked. But i did love battle LA so tmnt could be decent

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 6:49 a.m. CST

    They can't get any darker than the first one...

    by nieman

    Especially in today's climate. The first movie had everything.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 6:54 a.m. CST

    Da fuck why?

    by tylerzero

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 7:04 a.m. CST

    Bradley Bird, Esquire?

    by SithMenace

    Nordling, come on.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 7:13 a.m. CST

    Will they change the title to Hero for us sensitive Brits?

    by alan_poon

    We take the piss out of you Yanks for changing the title of the first Harry Potter film but the word Ninja wasn't allowed to be used in the original cartoon title in case us kids went round throwing stars at random strangers and silently assassinating teachers in their beds for giving us homework.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 7:16 a.m. CST

    I'd love to see a sequel to that last animated version...

    by Nice Marmot

    ....the story wasn't all that, but the animation and action was fantastic....

  • and will Corey Feldman return?

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 7:33 a.m. CST

    Dang, I was hoping they'd give this job to me...

    by George Newman

    oh well, back to painting.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 7:37 a.m. CST

    I really liked the Eastman and Laird books

    by RG

    the cartoons and movies not at all... Hell they killed the Shredder in the first issue...

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 7:41 a.m. CST

    Cowa-what the fuck!

    by Austin

    Honestly...leave it alone. There is a 100% chance they are going to fuck the story all up...

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 7:44 a.m. CST

    The cg movie was aight

    by UltraTron

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 7:49 a.m. CST

    nice marmot

    by VXXXJesterXXXV

    I agree with you, I actually was surprised by the last flick. I thought it was going to be a bad flick with shitty animation. LIke you say the story was just alright, but the fights and animation were fantastic.

  • I liked that movie; but it doesn't mean it felt like a collection of each and every single war movie's cliche. Wrath of the titans was a disappointment; missed opportunities everywhere. The real myths are full of carnage, betrayal, drama, heroics and lots of gotcha! moments. No movie has been even close. Still waiting.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 8:04 a.m. CST


    by Carven

    Why is it that Hollywood insists that all these sequels and reboots have to be "Darker." Since when did our movie going society need to see more emo bullshit to get their asses on the theater seats? I loved the original trilogy. They were massive childish fun back when I was a kid. They were the reason why I went into martial arts class to combat my overindulgence on pizza, which they ALSO had a hand in..haha! The cartoon was a required half hour of my Saturday morning routine too. Much like Star Wars, I don't want to see one of my jems of film be anally raped and tainted forever. It's a tough feeling, because I'd also love to see them back on the big screen for today's youth to see how fucking awesome we had it back then.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 8:11 a.m. CST

    Philosopher's Stone? What the fuck is that?

    by Fawst

    See, the nature of that question isn't "what's a Philosopher?" Kids know Socrates. They've seen Bill & Ted. Philosopher's Stone sounds like something that would be used to meditate on. But no, it's the greatest fucking alchemical reagent "known" to man. And that has WHAT to do with Philosophy again? Terrible name. Besides, Sorcerer sounds a lot better. It gets kids excited. I'd have been ok with it being "Harry Potter and the Alchemist's Stone," even. So the problem isn't with "stupid" American kids, it's with the original name of the item in question. That all being said, holy fuck, I never knew that they changed it to Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles in the UK. That's pretty fucking bad. My condolences! :| Which brings me to this. I've given up. I won't get a good TMNT film. The comics were great, but I can't imagine they would make a film that follows them. Personally, I'd prefer it if they did a 10-15 minute intro, pre-title card, that covered the first issue. Get it out of the way. Give us the brief buildup that was the first issue and show us the battle with the Foot and Shredder on top of the building. Then move on and tell a different story from there. But it won't happen. And I highly doubt they'll completely remove themselves from the cartoon connections. Oh well.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 8:11 a.m. CST

    Clearly the studio don't have much faith in this movie


    That's why they've hired a guy like this... a journeyman director with no real style of his own who can hack out something under budget that'll tick all of their predetermined boxes.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 8:13 a.m. CST

    the first one by Steve Barron is very underrated

    by baronweazle

    As is director Steve Barron himself. The first Turtles film followed the original comics pretty well(or as much as a movie aimed at kids could anyway) and to me still holds up to this day.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 8:19 a.m. CST

    The best Turtles movie they've done is probably "Turtles Forever"


    It's about the Turtle from the 2003 series going to an alternate dimension and teaming up with the Turtles from the cheesy 80's cartoon. It's actually pretty funny, especially near the end when they meet up with the gritty black and white Turtles from the original comic. The whole thing's up on YouTube if you want to check it out:

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 8:20 a.m. CST

    Make it darker than the first film...

    by Tristan

    The first TMNT film, imo, is the best. Yes, there were some corny moments, but I really liked the overall, "serious" tone of the film. The Shredder scenes were awesome. Anyway, I'm honestly, kinda worried about the director choice...I'm not a fan of Battle:LA at all, but I'm curious to see Wrath of the Titans ( hoping it's better than Clash). I don't want any shaky-cam shit in a TMNT film! Watch that live-action fan film, "The Foot". I think the gritty-tone is good, but they use either, quick cuts or shaky-cam for the fight scene, if I remember correctly.

  • It's the perfect marriage of what worked best in the comics and the '80s-90s cartoon. Way darker than what they'd be allowed to do with a kids movie these days. The Shredder is still really intimidating. Elias Koteas is to Casey Jones as Chris Reeve is to Superman. Sam Rockwell is a foot soldier! And the less said about the next turtles movies, the better. It's gonna be really, really hard to match the excellence of the first film. They really need to hire a director like Darren Aronofsky or Nicolas Winding Refn to deliver the kind of mature Turtles film the fans want to see.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 8:42 a.m. CST

    TMNT contributed more to obese kids from our generation...

    by AvadaKedavrainthearseohsnap

    Than anything else in that time. All that pizza placement in the films? I was scared to death of the cheese when i was a kid, then I saw Ninja Turtles and suddenly was craving that shit on a daily basis. Also not looking forward to shiny CG turtles if that's what they're thinking about... Nothing will top the guys in turtle suits doing real martial arts.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 8:46 a.m. CST

    Cautious excitement.

    by Beaverduck

    Battle: Los Angeles was directed better than it was written IMO. If the writers are competent enough this may not be a horrible thing? Jonathan Liebesman is no visionary that's for sure. He should be directing shit like AVP, not american classics like TMNT. I want Luc Besson to produce a TMNT movie with "Taken" director Pierre Morel.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 8:52 a.m. CST

    Giant Turtles+Ninjas+Michael Bay+Liebesman+3D+Dark'n'Gritty=

    by cameron

    A FUCKIN COWABUNGA SIZE WHALE OF FFFFAAAAIILLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So basically they will spent 150 millin on a kids movie about ninja turtles.....................If Hollywood ain't ballzout crazy i'm datin' Dick Jones.. . . .. .. . . DICK JONES!

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 8:57 a.m. CST

    This HAS to be aimed at kids

    by theyreflockingthisway

    Turtles works best when it's fun and full of humour. Personally I'd like to see something where the Turtles themselves are the most fantastical thing in the story. Usually we have some sort of alien invasion / time travel / huge robots etc - it kind of takes away from the uniqueness of mutated Turtles living in the sewer fighting crime as ninjas. I thought 2007's animated movie worked really well - just the other monsters made the Turtles seem more mundane. It's much more interesting if you put them up against the Foot Clan and street thugs. The Shredder is a great villain - time to bring him back.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 9:07 a.m. CST

    Really? Come one...

    by wonderboy2402


  • Feb. 15, 2012, 9:07 a.m. CST

    Gritty = Better. FACT.

    by biscuithead

    Even if it doesn't suit the material. Look at that Spiderman trailer. Looks like a substandard Batman rip. Brilliant.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 9:18 a.m. CST

    Platinum Dunes

    by CuervoJones

    Not interested.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 9:23 a.m. CST

    I want to see Takashi Miike direct TMNT

    by Cobb05

    Battle: Los Angeles sucked. Wrath of the Titans loos as good as Clash, which isn't great, but with good effects. Nikkei would made the coolest TMNT movie ever. Nikkei has that unique Japanese style that would breathe new life into TMNT. It's too bade he can't make a Japanese version, without studio interference. It would be amazing.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 9:31 a.m. CST

    Also the Turtles are pretty limited as characters

    by Cobb05

    Yes, the have their own personalities, but the really don't have anywhere to go as characters. They hang out together all the time. They always end up together, to fight Shredder. He's the main villain. Other than the mutant here and there. I don't think they'll use Krang. And my stupid typist are from my auto correct. Stupid tablet. I need to look more closely.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 9:32 a.m. CST

    Darker than the first film?

    by Bob

    Considering how crappily the first movie was lit, I'm surprised people want an even darker movie this time. /sarcasm Seriously tho, the first movie kept so much stuff in shadow and murk. I think they did it to keep from showing how crappy the turtle suits actually looked in full light. Still, it was the best in the series. Don't even get me going on that pos 3rd movie. Ugh.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 9:33 a.m. CST

    TMNT could be great

    by Benja the Ninja

    Go ahead and reboot it. I expect them to mo-capped turtles, which I have no problem with. But please, if we get to the sequel, don't make things so safe! I liked to think that characters can die or be killed or fall. I always thought it would be interesting if Splinter died in the second film, and then Raph goes rogue killing the ones responsible, and becoming the villian so-to-speak in the third. MAKE IT HAPPEN MOVIE MAGIC PEOPLE!

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 9:34 a.m. CST

    Does someone actually care?

    by Jeespox

    Besides the teenagers for whom "darker" equals "cooler". I sympathize with them though, as I was also ridicilous once. But TMNT, seriously? Who's gonna see it?

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 9:43 a.m. CST

    Now all they need is an audience!

    by Mickster_Island

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 9:48 a.m. CST

    Make it as dark and gritty as the comics

    by Transhuman

    I've been hoping for this. Forget doing it for the kids, they got 2, 3, and TMNT. Make this one for the adults. Kids still love The Dark Knight because it's Batman. Same will apply with the Turtles.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 9:48 a.m. CST

    What's Master Splinter doing?

    by Kelly Grimes


  • Feb. 15, 2012, 10:01 a.m. CST


    by blackmantis

    My moviegoing life is starting to feel like fucking Groundhog Day with all these reboots, remakes, sequels, prequels, precum pieces of shit!...Fuck it all...fuck it right in the asshole.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 10:05 a.m. CST

    professorjack, are you sure you read the B&W Eastman/Laird TMNT comics?

    by Nasty In The Pasty

    Because there was an Archie Comics version that was in the style of the cartoon series as well, so maybe that's why you thought it "for little kids"? The Mirage comics *were* a lot darker than the cartoon series...they were actually allowed to STAB and BLUDGEON bad guys with their weapons instead of just waving them around menacingly before backflipping the baddies with their feet, there was no idiotic obsession with pizza (honestly, even as a kid, it bugged me that pizza was ALL the Turtles wanted to eat, 24/7), no silly puns or characters designed solely to sell a toy line....there was *some* humor (it was originally a satire of 80's comic book trends, after all), but not the obnoxious, winking-at-the-camera kiddie shit the cartoon drilled into everybody's heads. Granted, as Eastman & Laird drifted away from the book to manage their multimedia TMNT empire, the Mirage comics got a bit wonky, with dozens of fill-in writers and artists giving it a disjointed, anthology-like feel, but those B&W comics -- at least through the point I stopped reading them (around 1993/94) -- are pretty damn good.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 10:08 a.m. CST

    needs christina hendricks in a yellow jumpsuit

    by boogalooshrimp

    and krang but mostly bebop and rocksteady.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 10:15 a.m. CST

    No Rocksteady and Bebop, no go.

    by KongMonkey

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 10:15 a.m. CST

    MI:4 was a success because

    by lennonisgod

    Chris McQuarrie came in and got that shit script into shape. The fact that he wasn't given writing credit is a travesty, and shows what a clusterfuck the WGA has become. When One Shot comes out, everyone will finally see that the only reason MI:4 worked was because of Cruise and McQ's burgeoning professional relationship.

  • Not that I think it's a particularly appropriate approach. It might be nice to split the difference and make it like the turtles were around the time of their space adventures from the original series. At that point, they all had distinct personalities and were perfectly capable of light moments, but they weren't quite the Saturday morning cartoon they later became.

  • I realize the comics were sort of that way, but the franchise only got really successful when they lightened it up and made it for kids. Note how the animated TMNT tried to go a bit darker and more or less bombed. Frankly I don't give a shit either way because I've always thought it was stupid.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 10:25 a.m. CST

    Gotta agree with Blackmantis...

    by Righteous Brother

    What are the next 20 years going to be like? There's no new material now, that will be able to be remade or re-booted. So we'll just have reboots of remakes of reimaginings of reboots of remakes of reimaginings.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 10:26 a.m. CST


    by Johannes Kääpä

    Liebesman had some promise as director early on. His Texas Chainsaw reboot sequel wasn't half-bad and he has a good eye for action and "gritty" stuff, but just like Marcus Nispel (who made the first reboot of Texas, which also wasn't too bad either). But ever since their subsequent films have been all style over substance. I guess that's what you get when you come out of the Michael Bay school of film making. Battle L.A was just as I thought it would be, great trailer, but the results was just good looking film without any sort of coherence or understanding of pacing or how to connect a scene to a coherent story. They're just separate sequences of "cool" looking, yellow-filtered action sequences with some mandatory boring filler in between. Actually if I didn't know beforehand which one of these directors made Battle or Conan or any of the other sub-bar films they've put out, I wouldn't have guessed either way. Maybe they're both just hacks for hire to make pretty pictures for the producers when they can't get Bay to direct. They both could be very good commercial directors though (which I guess they were before Mr. Bay got them to make his lesser projects). So I don't hold much hope for this Turtles film (not that I even care that much).

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 10:29 a.m. CST

    Christina Hendricks in a yellow jumpsuit

    by Nerd Rage

    This must happen!

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 10:46 a.m. CST

    I hope they have a talking dog for a sidekick

    by Mace Tofu

    Talking dogs is going to be the next big thing in Hollywood.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 10:47 a.m. CST


    by D o o d

    they're still trying to milk this rubbish..!

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 10:49 a.m. CST

    Reboot? They never really went away.

    by Bedknobs and Boomsticks

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 10:54 a.m. CST

    THE BLAH, BLAH, BLAH reboot gets a DAH, DAH, DAH.

    by AzulTool

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 11:04 a.m. CST

    what are the chances of them going with suits

    by cheekerpot

    and don't cop out on lame CG ? Probably zero but here's hoping!

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 11:04 a.m. CST

    Here's a thought...if you don't like the idea, fuck right off

    by wcolbert

    Mmmkay? Not a terribly difficult concept, even for you people. Nobody gives a shit if you want to piss and moan that "another re-boot" is being made. Fuck you. If you don't like it, then it is exactly as simple as not WATCHING IT. Go jerk off in a corner and let the people who will enjoy it...enjoy it. Your butt-hurt moaning will have no impact on the film, so just shut the fuck up already. Now, if you have some investment in the turtles (like actually wanting to see a new film), then I can see voicing your concerns and hopes. As for the bitching regarding it being "darker", let's just stop for a moment and consider the ages of our core audience, shall we? The turtles comic hit in the early 80's. The more kid-friendly show, a few years later. The live action films were 20 + years ago. The 2007 TMNT did not do terribly well with kids - it was mainly adults who were fans growing up who went to see it. The 2003 series was nearly a decade ago now. Do the math. What it means is that...the core audience, if they were children when the show was now in their late 20's to early 30's. If they were children when the 2003 series started, they are now either adults or close to it. Hell, if they were 12 when the 2007 film came out, they are old enough to want a more mature take by now. The core audience is no longer kids. It hasn't been kids for a LONG. TIME. You ACTUALLY think that some kid born in 1999 or 2000 has any fucking CLUE what the ninja turtles were? Much less post-9/11 babies. You make a movie catering to an 8 year old, and you will see a box office flop - for the simple reason that 8 years olds do not know the ninja turtles (though I'm sure there's the odd exception, this is true). An 8 year old today would have been barely out of diapers when the LAST turtles movie came out not that long ago. The target audience (those of us in our 20's and 30's)...has grown up. Get over it. We're the old men now - I know of kids who don't even know who Arnold Schwarzenegger is, who never saw Jurassic Park or Terminator, who think Lord of the Rings counts as a "really old movie" when the last of the trilogy came out less than 10 years ago. Fuck, there are many kids who no longer know what the original star wars trilogy was. So just take the trip down nostalgia road, for what it is, realize that you aren't going to get some cutesy '80's cartoon schtick, or GTFO. It would make virtually no sense to market to kids when the market has aged by decades.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 11:05 a.m. CST


    by Garett

    Another remake...must be so hard to be a Screen writer nowa days. Google movies of the 1980s and 1990s and there ya go a whole script ready to be remade. There are literaly thousands of novels that can be optioned into movies, Instead these over paid no idea having tards just keep tossing crap out i have already seen and paid for, Sure the actors change the story may get darker but the Beggining middle end all amount to the same thing.. If you want people to pay at a theater stop pushing these remakes and my personal fav reimaginings. id pay for Episode 1 3d its not remade nor is it reimagined its just star wars in 3d and that alone is worth the price of admission! Literally tons of new content graphic novels, novels, that could be made into movies. Message to Directors Actors people who rehash ideas aka screen writters: Stop crying about downloads im not paying 13 bucks to see a crapy version of cant even use Lithgows Rock and roll speech in that mess its mostly pop country and rap!

  • Some of my favorite movies. Formative childhood experiences. I loved the movie version action figures also. I still remember going to see the second one and it was so packed that people were standing in the aisles. Had to stand all the way in the back of the theater and STILL loved my life. The recent CGI film was NOT a reboot, either. It follows the continuity of the the first three very obviously. The time sceptre from the third movie and Shredder's wrecked helmet are clearly visible in the Turtles' sewer trophy room.

  • But the advantage to all CGI is they could get their height right.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 11:11 a.m. CST

    Weird Tone Was Part of the Fun


    The original comics were a truly weird mash-up of grittiness (yeah, swords cut, sais stabbed, etc) and comic book absurdities (giant mutant ninja turtles, led by a talking Yodaesque mutant rat? Come ON!) with a wink at comic book obsessions at the time (X Men, Ninjas). And yet it worked. The first movie captured some of that feel. Could someone manage to recreate that lightning in a bottle, live action, today? I really don't know. Won't be easy, I suspect!

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 11:11 a.m. CST

    Darker is the way to go

    by Kamikaze_red

    The original Ninja Turtle comics were violent, dark and serious. Especially for thier time They got a little goofy later on but nothing like the cartoon. I think there's a way to balance the obvious insanity of them being mutant ninja turtles and still keeping a darker, more serious tone. I agree that the first film got a-lot of things right.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 11:17 a.m. CST

    I can't decide what sort of Turtles film I want...

    by photoboy

    On the one hand, I still really want a live-action version of the '80s cartoon with Bebop, Rocksteady, Krang, April O'Neil with big tits in a yellow jumpsuit, Baxter Stockman as a fly, the Technodrome, etc. On the other hand, I also want something pretty dark and gritty like the original comics or the first film. I know the first film wasn't all that dark, but I think the tone was about right. I think if you go too dark you'd have to change the Turtle's personalities to fit and then it wouldn't really be the Turtles in my book. They need to be goofing off and having fun no matter the situation. I'm not sure how I'd like to see the film done. The fights in the original films were great because they were real, if they go for CG Turtles I think some of that realism will be lost. Perhaps they could go for a hybrid approach, with guys in suits but the faces done with CGI so that the Turtles look more expressive? I'm off to play Turtles in Time on the SNES and order a Pizza Hut. Cowabunga!

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 11:20 a.m. CST

    I really must remember to miss this.

    by ChickenStu

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 11:41 a.m. CST

    The first two Turtle films are pretty awesome...

    by Andrew Coleman

    The first film is hard core. I'll never get over the fact that Shredder fucks the Turtles up hardcore. Think about it how many times in movies does the main villain just dominate the hero? The second film is just hilarious and over the top and I just love it for what it is. When Shredder turns into Barry Bonds at the end it's just... Hilarious. This new idea sounds bad. Seems like they will want an "edge" to the Turtles which is not the way to go. They took the fun out of Spider-man and now they are doing the same here.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 12:02 p.m. CST

    Do whatever you want, but keep Corey Feldman as Donatello.

    by sweeneydave

    Have a heart, TMNT producers. Don't take away the one thing that kid was good at.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 12:03 p.m. CST

    Michael Bay's Platinum Dunes is producing

    by Erik Radvon

    That's all the information needed to know that this is going to suck ass. The fact that it's from the director of the horrible Battle: LA is just icing on the Fail Cake.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 12:05 p.m. CST

    Sam Raimi could actually make one hell of a Turtles movie...

    by Erik Radvon

    The Doc Ock end battle in Spidey 2 sort of reminds me of the final Shredder battle in the old TMNT movies. I think he would nail the urban/horror tones that made the Turtles a blast back in the day.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 12:10 p.m. CST

    To be honest, if they want to reboot TMNT as a profitable franchise,

    by sweeneydave

    they are gonna HAVE to keep it somewhat kid-friendly. TMNT was a GIANT money maker back in the day, and it would be foolish for them to not try to get that back. You can still make a great movie, but they can't go around stabbing everything like they did in the original comics. Those early TMNTs were the first comics I had ever read. Ever. So I was suprised when I started reading Spider-Man and he wasn't stabbing the villains.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 12:12 p.m. CST

    Bossanova. Chevy Nova?....EXCELLENT!!!

    by Tikidonkeypunch

    I dont care if there isn't an 'audience' for this, I want to see this now. Fuck all of you turlte hating SOBs who think otherwise.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 12:20 p.m. CST

    i think people are misinformed about the comics

    by sunwukong86

    Sure theyre not like the 80s cartoon at all but theyre not that dark and gritty

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 12:40 p.m. CST

    Don't see why...

    by OptimusKind

    ...This movie can't be dark, gritty, violent AND ridiculous and humorous. They should take a cue from Big Trouble in Little China. Have real actors in real suits with cg faces kicking ass in a surreal NYC with whatever craziness you like. It could even have dimension x and shit. The Turtles ARE ridiculous and that's why they're fun.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 1:31 p.m. CST

    TMNT 1990 is dark as hell

    by Axl Z

    remember being awestuck at Raph getting the crap kicked out of him in a PG film (UK here!)

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 1:42 p.m. CST

    The first live-action one was my first movie in a theater

    by master_of_realty

    I must've been about 5 and had no clue what I was going to see on the screen besides Ninja Turtles. I'm convinced that seeing that opening montage explaining the crime wave (edited by Sally Menke) is what lit the fire in me and made me the movie fan I am today. Major impact.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 2 p.m. CST

    The CG movie sucked

    by disfigurehead

    The original live action movie was awesome.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 2:23 p.m. CST

    Sin City Style Eastman Laird

    by DJTripp

    Go black and white with splash of color and do the original style of the comics and you've got gold. Do you really think little kids care about the TMNT any more? If you aim for a PG-13 violent and kinda bloody half anime style movie you'll wow your audience by having the balls NOT to pander to kids. I liken the last Turtle outing to taking something like The Crow and making him have a talking sidekick bird that always gets caught in goofy situations. Do the right thing Hollywood, go OG.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 2:25 p.m. CST

    liam neeson should voice splinter

    by boogalooshrimp

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 2:52 p.m. CST

    Will Corey Feldman reprise his voiceover?


    I don't really care, just a thought!

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 2:54 p.m. CST

    and the dynamite goes ...BOOOOOM!!


  • Feb. 15, 2012, 2:59 p.m. CST

    The Leo vs Ralph fight in TMNT was epic.

    by knowthyself

    And makes the CGI film worth watching even if it got a little too "saturday morning cartoon" at times.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 3:01 p.m. CST

    I agree...would love to see Eastman and Laird style

    by misnomer

    City At War.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 3:04 p.m. CST

    The original comics had their tongue firmly in cheek

    by misnomer

    ...they weren't THAT dark, agreed. A little Frank Miller narration, alot of humour that comes out of character, a few digs at each other over some beers...that's the turtles I want to see. Don't make emo turtles.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 3:30 p.m. CST

    The TMNT CG movie was pretty darn great

    by performingmonkey

    Plot aside...;) But, for me, it nailed the Turtles and was a good mash-up of the comicbook, past movies and cartoon. Like someone above mentioned, the fight between Leo and Raph is gold! Go see if you haven't.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 4:45 p.m. CST

    The 2k3 TMNT series had the right balance

    by wcolbert

    ...That is, until they suddenly changed the animation style to super-childish with bright colors everywhere. Before that, the first several seasons were amazing. It had just the right mixture of humor and gravity. People actually die in that show. Shredder gets decapitated. Yet, your 10 year old can still enjoy it as much as a 30 year old. Highly recommend that show, both in terms of watching it, and as a model for the movie. The tone is just pitch-perfect. Not too kiddy, not too dark - like the original comics. The story arc where (I think Don) time-travels and everyone dies and has lived horrifying lives - that alone was worth the whole show.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 4:53 p.m. CST

    It's Raph! Yeah, a little too Raph!

    by kidicarus

    Secret of the Ooze has some of the best one-liners of any movie ever made.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 5:49 p.m. CST

    Yes, dark. Because that's how it has been successful.

    by Larry Sellers

    The franchise has been most profitable at its broadest. So don't hold your breath for a tonal adaptation of the original comics. Look, Eastman and Laird managed to maintain control of the franchise despite selling out very early on. It was under their guard that TMNT became what it did. The recent cartoon series and the hilarious Turtles Forever cartoon crossover happened in spite of the cheesy II & III movies and the 80s cartoon. Let's keep in mind that the comics often involved space aliens and other stupid shit everyone decides to ignore when they talk about the grim gritty dark darkness r-rated beer turtles.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 6:15 p.m. CST

    wait, answer me this

    by Philip Tolken

    wasn't there already a remake with a good amount of preproduction work completed. I.E. much darker version, uglier turtles. I thought they had already had auditions.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 6:16 p.m. CST

    this director

    by Philip Tolken

    battle: los angeles...jesus christ what an eye raping way to spend 2 hours.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 6:17 p.m. CST

    Turtles in Time on SNES

    by Philip Tolken

    Did anyone ever actually beat that game? holy fuck, it was one of those, "gotta beat in one sitting/can't save" games.

  • It needs the dark urban, martial arts feel of Batman Begins and it needs the fun, light-hearted (no pun intended) nature of Iron Man. PG-13 should strike the perfect balance.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 7:54 p.m. CST

    First movie was great AND STILL HOLDS! 2 and 3 are embarrassing.

    by Wolfman Nards

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 7:56 p.m. CST

    And this could work as a darker film.

    by Wolfman Nards

    It's original base audience (children of the 80's) and today's young adults are who this should be marketed to. Make it PG-13, pleeeeease.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 8:01 p.m. CST

    you know they pitched this as TMNT BEGINS....

    by sonnyhooper KNOW that was the pitch. to be followed by TMNT: The Dark Shredder, to be followed by TMNT:The Dark Splinter Rises. <p> Hollywood loves to play follow the leader, so if you don't expect every half assed super hero re-boot to follow the nolan-batman-style lead then you are kidding yourself. <p> i'm not saying thats the right way to go, or the wrong way to go, i'm just saying that it is what it is.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 8:12 p.m. CST


    by Wolfman Nards

    You are 100% correct. And I'm ok with that.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 8:18 p.m. CST

    There hasn't been a good TMNT movie yet

    by NeoDevilbaneX

    I'm a big fan of the Mirage comics. They should try adapting them sometime.

  • ... and all either achieved lukewarm results or failures. From where I stand, a relatively gritty, PG-13 true-to-the-Mirage-comics approach is the only approach they HAVEN'T tried. They ought to.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 8:39 p.m. CST

    no way around it: this will be stupid.

    by Arcadian Del Sol

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 9:02 p.m. CST

    Turtles Forever

    by Nuck81

    That was pretty entertaining. I grew up on the 80's turtles but was unfamiliar with the main group of that movie and the Alien Shredder. Still a pretty cool movie Thanks kevin_costners_recycled_piss

  • There are many ways to do a TMNT, but only a couple, which would work. Doing a hybrid of "dark/family" is a bullshit idea. Tonally, the film has to be consistent. It should either be dark and serious, or fun and adventurous. The problem with fun and adventurous, is that it was already done quite well in the cartoons. That doesn't translate as well for a live-action version. The themes covered in the live-action version should be more serious and for adolescents/adults. Firstly, let's get to the topic of the foot clan: a bunch of teenage misfits gathered together, genetically modified and enhanced by a sick and twisted Ninja Master, bent on controlling New York city with an iron fist. He is considered a hero of the people, because he uses the Foot Clan to wipe the streets clean of violence and corruption. You could say: Shredder & his Foot Clan are like a modern-day, 21st Century Mafia who embrace technology. They are ruthless but also generous with rewarding the people, who have been failed by the corrupt and overstretched New York Police Department. The Foot Clan begin to take over. TMNT should be a trilogy, with the first film focusing on the following: 1) Ancient Rivalry between Yoshi (Splinter) and Saki (Shredder). Their rivalry began in Japan many hundreds of years ago (yes, both of them are several hundred years old but look young, because of having mastered the art of preserving their consciousness at the cellular level). Like many rivalries, this too is centered around a young and beautiful ninja woman, who is accidentally murdered by Saki, because she through herself into his sword, as he was about to fatally wound Yoshi. The woman (let's call her Ling) is killed, but Yoshi in retaliation causes hideous and permanent scarring on Saki's face. Saki orders his loyal ninjas to hunt him down and murder him. Yoshi escapes to New York, living a modest life (he does not necessarily have to live in the sewers, although it wouldn't matter if he did...) Saki hates Yoshi because not only was he more favored by their grand master, but also, because he murdered the only woman he ever loved by having her display her love for his nemesis, sacrificing herself for Yoshi -- a gesture too much for him to handle. Thus, one aspect of the film is centered around this eternal hatred for Yoshi. 2) The next aspect revolves around modern day (or perhaps slightly futuristic, maybe 10 or 20 years from today) New York City, drenched in crime, authoritarian government control, high unemployment, a bankrupt economy and an eternally bored and violent youth. Saki uses his charisma and considerable manipulative skills to organize these misfits into a tightly knit, highly trained and disciplined ninja clan, who are paid large sums by both the community and corporations to maintain law and order. The police outlaws them, but with Saki's eventual wealth and buying power (politicians, lawyers, police, etc), he manages to expand his empire into other territories and cities in the USA. Yoshi is beginning to sense something bigger than just a crime- fighting, assassins- for- hire mafia gang controlled by his old rival and enemy... 3) Saki starts gathering groups of volunteers to experiment in hybrid machine-man enhancement and mutation programs, which are secretly co-funded by secret government (CIA, NRO, NSA, etc) black projects.... The last quarter of the film can be dedicated to the beginning of a small rebellion in the foot clan, where (amongst others) the four ninja mutant turtles escape and are further trained by Yoshi, who already knows about Saki's plans to take over the entire nation... The next two films would focus on the turtles (their rise) and on the demise/destruction of the Foot Clan... This would be a gritty, violent, realistic Ninja film (along the lines of Game Of Thrones in terms of violence, realism, grittiness and general tone -- including lewd humor, for example...) I think it would be kick-ass, but we all know this is not going to happen. Just like the companies didn't want to fund Blomkamp's gritty Halo, the studios wouldn't fund a dark, gritty, serious and dramatic Ninja Turtles. I hope you shitheads in here are looking forward to your Batman and Robin "cowabunga" rendition of a potentially great origin story. As for me, I will not waste my time, unless it has at least an 80% tomato rating and an R-rating. Anything less than this, has already been done to death and been seen before.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 9:57 p.m. CST

    quick addendum

    by Emperor

    For the previous post: "she through herself..." should be "she threw herself..."

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 10:08 p.m. CST

    I'm with angry video game nerd.....TMNT 3 sucked ASSSSS

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    What a fucking epic POS. That movie sucks on multiple levels. First it's a turtle movie that's somehow fucking BORING. How do you make a movie about mutant turtles boring???? I didn't think that was possible. It looked cheap as shit. It had the worst shittiest villains ever. The new Splinter puppet was a disaster. The turtles costumes were garbage. They brought back Casey Jones so he jerk-off with some ancient Japanese guys. Fucking pointless. No wonder Jim hensons' people had no part in it.

  • Feb. 16, 2012, 12:15 a.m. CST

    Needs Nolan

    by Jodie Sherman

    Not even a week ago a friend and I were watching the original movie, lamenting on the disappointment of all the movies, especially the most recent. What I did like about the TMNT was the concept. Leo's gone off and Raf is a vigilante. I think in a reboot, there is the definite potential to make these beloved reptiles more than two-dimensional (although I'm not looking forward to the 3D visuals with Michael Bay involved). So, I think ultimately, this movie will suck. But someday, someone will get it right.

  • Feb. 16, 2012, 2:11 a.m. CST

    Needs a PG-13, but still kid friendly ala Spidey

    by textual

    PG is so gimped at this point, Mikey can't do anything with his chucks anymore. Plus Raph can cuss again!

  • Best part about it was Jim Hensons turtle suites. They hold up and still look wonderful. Beyond that, the movie stinks. I sold the Blu-ray set a week after buying it. Even Elias Koteas as Casey Jones couldn't save the film. Those honestly defending it have a serious case of nostalgia towards it or simply haven't seen it in a long time. Really, beyond the unique tone the film has, nothing about it is very good. Do yourself a favor and buy the newly released Vol 1 hardcover reprint of the original comics. It may not be "adult" enough for some of the younglings here, but it doesn't have the "cowabunga!" and "pizza dude" bullshit that the cartoon and movies added.

  • Feb. 16, 2012, 5:52 a.m. CST

    Usagi Yojimbo > TMNT

    by CuervoJones

    Just forget about the bloody turtles and make a good version of Usagi Yojimbo. Directed by Takashi Miike. I´d buy that for a dollar.

  • Feb. 16, 2012, 6:06 a.m. CST

    Lemme know when the third reboot of the 6th remake happens.

    by NeonFrisbee

    Hollywood ran out of ideas 30+ years ago.

  • Feb. 16, 2012, 6:29 a.m. CST


    by NeonFrisbee

    I LIKE IT!

  • Feb. 16, 2012, 7:33 a.m. CST

    The CGI film was a sequel, not a reboot...

    by Finn

    They alluded to past events, artifacts from past films were shown in the lair (eg- scepter of time from TMNT3), and there was heavy foreshadowing of the return of Shredder. It would be nice if this were a Seqboot, a new take on the story but not erasing the what's already been laid out.

  • Feb. 16, 2012, 10:48 a.m. CST

    true the cgi movie was a sequel....

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    but in this case 4 the new film i think they may as well just reboot and start fresh. Why attach the new movie to continuity dating back to a generation of viewers now in our 30's? No need - start fresh.

  • Feb. 16, 2012, 11:24 a.m. CST


    by CreamCheeseAlchemist

    The anime was total lulz. Anyway, here's my darker take: One of the turtles has gone missing. They immediately confront the Shredder who assures them not only does he have nothing to do with it, but he will help them. "I was just about to sit down to dinner, why don't you join me- can't find your brother on an empty stomach." So they sit down and have some soup. And when it is all over... "Tonight, we all dined on turtle soup!"

  • Feb. 16, 2012, 12:10 p.m. CST

    Professorjack: Bodycount

    by lonecow12

    I just want to further drive home the point the good Prof. doesn't know Jack shit. The last official Ninja Turtle Graphic novel by Eastman (or Laird I forgot and too lazy too look up) is simply called, Bodycount and is just about Raphael and Casey Jones killing a bunch of stuff in a bloody mess. Also Shredder gets decapitated in the first story arch in the original series. lol you are thinking of the Archie comics version.

  • Feb. 16, 2012, 1:29 p.m. CST

    Teenage Mutant Retard Turtles

    by Jaster Mareel

    Never understood the appeal. You fuckers all into Power Rangers too?

  • Feb. 16, 2012, 5:12 p.m. CST


    by wcolbert

    And your faggot star wars is any less idiotic when it comes down to it? Look, the original trilogy was ok. For its time. But the prequels? You have nerve, coming in here with such a fucking cliche name as a fett reference, and calling a franchise "retarded". Let's review, shall we? Star Wars: It's about an annoying kid who for no apparent reason is some sort of "chosen one" (cliche number one), to "bring balance to the force". Fast forward through 90 minutes of Jar Jar, bad dialogue, and you get to episode 2...which accomplishes precisely shit other than proving that Gayden Christiansen can't act to save his life. Episode 3 - more trivial whining, blah blah, falls in lava, blah blah, Padme's dead, blah blah, the end. Oh, right, Anakin "turns evil" somewhere along the line for no good reason - just because he's supposed to. Y'know, for continuity's sake. And then the fucking Empire, which is apparently SO fucking deadly that nobody in the galaxy could even come close to stopping them....they're fucking with planets a few decades on. Until some unskilled little shit who whines about power converters finds a glaring fucking hole in their design that evidently NOBODY IN THE GALAXY HAD THOUGHT OF. Ok, fine, let's let that slide. Death star goes boom. But what then? Same shit happens again. Because they're fucking RETARDED. And then the little gay teddy bears bounce around and wiggle their fat asses at the screen while going "jub jub". That is, after those same little fuckers somehow defeated the "powerful" storm trooper army, complete with armor, walking tanks, etc...WITH FUCKING sticks and LOGS. Fucking REALLY? And let's not forget the "only imperial storm troopers could have made marks this precise" line...when they fucking can't hit the broad side of a PLANET, much less a barn. And you think the Turtles are silly? At least they have room to grow. Star Wars is dead in the water, in terms of the main storyline. All they can do now is cash in on the franchise by making up shit and calling it "Old Republic" - basically, a bunch of shit we just made up to sell you a $50 game happened a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, in George Lucas' anus. Fuck you. At least the turtles were fun when i was a kid (and still are). Worlds better than Jar Jar and wooden acting. Also, just given the piss-poor aiming ability they have shown, I'd wager they'd kick the shit out of Fett in a fight. And all the storm troopers.