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Michael Bay confirmed to direct Transformers 4, described as a "reboot." What the what?!?

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. So, Lorenzo di Bonaventura did an interview with Josh Horowitz at MTV (video below) where he confirmed that Michael Bay is in fact on board to direct Transformers 4, which was a serious question after Bay repeatedly said the third one was his last. Then he became the highest paid director in the world for his work on these movies and probably changed his mind a little bit.

Anyway, Lorenzo says Transformers 4 is a reboot, but it'll still have continuity with the first three, just probably not the cast. Back in my day we called that a "sequel."

But I get it. New cast, new hotties, more epic crazy action... no renegotiating actor's salaries, etc. What I'd love for them to do is use this an excuse to focus on the robots a bit more. You don't need 40 minutes of Shia's parents now. If Bay can give the robots a little more spark (ha-yuck-yuck-yuck) and development I think his style could actually produce a kickass big budget spectacle. Already the last 40 minutes of the last film was on the right track.

Anyway, here's the interview:

 

 

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  • Feb. 13, 2012, 6:49 p.m. CST

    THE POWER OF COMPELS YOU

    by Darth Busey

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 6:49 p.m. CST

    Greeeeeeaaaaat.......

    by Squinty CGI Flynn

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 6:49 p.m. CST

    THE POWER OF BAY COMPELS YOU (FUCKING KEYBOARD)

    by Darth Busey

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 6:49 p.m. CST

    let it go

    by Chris Saturia

    Last 2 $ucked

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 6:50 p.m. CST

    There seems to be more than meets the eye.

    by LarryTheCableGuy

  • What a sad day for all Transformers fans across the world. Just when we thought Bay was done. He's the George Lucas of this generation.

  • Really, Quint? -Namaste-

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 6:52 p.m. CST

    let it go...

    by Friendoh

    First 3 $ucked. Bay is the WORST director.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 6:54 p.m. CST

    dharma

    by Quint

    Yeah, totally. In terms of action spectacle, absolutely. Minus a few beats in the first film the action in this series has been a let down... confusing, busy... but there was actually a rhythm to the action the last act of Transformers 3. The character work still sucked, but editing and choreography-wise I was impressed by the spectacle.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 6:54 p.m. CST

    Bring back Shia...

    by Odkin

    ...to KILL him! And kill him in the most humiliating way possible. Have him played by a really bad double seen mostly from behind, then have a Decipticon step on him and grind him into a fine meat paste that he wipes off his foot like dog shit. Give him all the respect he has earned.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 6:57 p.m. CST

    a question for geekdom

    by nora inu

    I saw the first transformers movie but not the two sequels. I just haven't bothered, I've always intended to at some point. But in so many ways I feel these movies represent most of what I deem to be the problem with movies in this era. Question, am I a bad geek for not seeing these, (whether I like them or not) or am I a good geek for having such a tepid emotional response to them?

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 6:57 p.m. CST

    How about I reboot your nut bag?

    by Gus Van Rant

    Let this go Bay and go rape another one of childhood memories. Hey, how about you put flames on Cheetara's labia or Panthro's taint? FUCK YOU MICHAEL BAY!

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 6:59 p.m. CST

    Damn you Michael Bay!!!!

    by john

    For old times sake

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 7 p.m. CST

    I hurt my foo foo

    by Anthony Torchia

    (obscure MTM reference) I agree, turn the ethic in the last 45 minutes of the last film into a whole new film, and it will not suck. Chuckles

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 7:04 p.m. CST

    They should really give Terrance Malick his shot

    by I_Snake_Plissken

    OPTIMUS STARES INTENTLY AT THE STARS FOR 90 SECONDS, THE WIND BLOWS QUIETLY

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 7:05 p.m. CST

    Well shit...

    by Andrew Coleman

    Will probably be better than the first three since Shia was really bad. But still just give it up! Raimi didn't get to make Spidey 4! Bay shouldn't direct this. Difference is if someone else gets control of Transformers it will probably be leagues better than the Spider-man Rises reboot bull shit coming out this summer.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 7:05 p.m. CST

    I'd rather watch gay porn than another Bay Transformers

    by john

    Actually I jack to gay porn all the time, and I can confirm that it is more entertaining than all of Bay's Transformer movies.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 7:05 p.m. CST

    Defeats the whole point of a reboot

    by Nerd Rage

    which is to remove the shitty stink of Bay's influence.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 7:07 p.m. CST

    how about...

    by DonLogan

    pulling back the design of the transformers a little bit, maybe resemble the Gen1 designs a bit more so we can actually see what they are doing rather than a mash of metal gyrating across the screen. then add a bit more story and a little less of young people screaming "OPTIMUS!!!!" while slo-mo flying across the screen. Keep the formula of sexy hot female + mega action shit blowing up and it might work out ok.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 7:08 p.m. CST

    Agreed

    by Mr. Lahey

    Transformers 3 was absolutely awesome. Nothing close to that has been onscreen in a long time, before or since. It more than made up for the mouth-shitting that was TF2, though the writer's strike partly fucked that one up.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 7:08 p.m. CST

    Fuck these movies.

    by Stifler's Mom

    None of them have any value. None of them.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 7:10 p.m. CST

    Quasi-reboot

    by Nerd Rage

    Same shit, different shape.

  • Michael we don't hate you. We just expect better from you. Think of all that money, time and talent. Wouldn't you rather be doing something, anything else than cranking out another hokey robot spectacle? If you want big, do Macross or Big O or... anything else. LIFE IS TOO SHORT FOR MEDIOCRE CINEMA.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 7:12 p.m. CST

    Quasi-REBOOT

    by Nerd Rage

    Same shit pile, different shape.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 7:17 p.m. CST

    I thank Michael Bay for The Rock.

    by john

    That is all.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 7:17 p.m. CST

    Transformers = Bay's lottery ticket

    by Nerd Rage

    I guess he finally accepted this fact instead of pretending he has better things to do.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 7:21 p.m. CST

    SOunds like another cinematic shit stain.

    by MainMan2001

    transformers 1 was the best. love it. transformers 2 was the worst of the worst of the worst. transformers 3 was just as bad as 2 but the ending was amazing even though you had to shit through one of the most convoluted plots in cinematic history. It made no sense and could have been simplified into a short film of no more then 5 minutes. transformers 4 is a burp and fart at the same time

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 7:22 p.m. CST

    The script for the last 40 minutes of the movie must have been

    by slder78

    One page long: Shit blows up. Seriously, the last part of the movie is just carnage and then just ends. I know it's just a Transformers movie but damn if I didn't want some closure.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 7:23 p.m. CST

    These movies wouldn't be nearly as terrible...

    by MainMan2001

    ...if the running time was only 1hr and 30 mins or even less. No need for 2hrs and 40mins or whatever. It's lazy filmmaking and absolutely unprofessional editing. The reason for the length is Bay shots sooooooooooooooo much footage that the producers(including himself) are forced to keep it in to justify the cost of the films.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 7:27 p.m. CST

    They need to redesign the robots

    by shane peterson

    and make them simpler and closer(though not exact) to the G1 universe.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 7:27 p.m. CST

    HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHH

    by Pixelsmack

    HAAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHHAHAHAHAAHAH

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 7:32 p.m. CST

    Next time don't pluck and rape your golden goose

    by Nerd Rage

    You might get more than three golden eggs to buy your cocaine with.

  • Jesus Christ. How do you make giant fighting robots confusing and yet boring and pedestrian? And these people still get writing and directing gigs because, reboot! Why are you talking about old shit? Reboot! Christ. I don't care too much, I play a minor technical role in some of these things but it would be nice to have a competent writer and/or director.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 7:33 p.m. CST

    Paramount doesn't have shit without Transformers

    by Nerd Rage

    It's by far their biggest cash cow.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 7:35 p.m. CST

    Hey ASM haters, think five years is too soon for a reboot?

    by Nerd Rage

    Try three years bitches!

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 7:36 p.m. CST

    HIS LAST 6 FILMS ARE THE EXACT SAME

    by The Fuck

    its amazing really, he doesn't learn. at all

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 7:36 p.m. CST

    Are they still talking about Statham for this?

    by Beezbo

    I'd hate for him to get tied up in these movies.

  • I guess there are people out there watching this shit to make him the highest paid director in the world! I don't care whether you watched it in the theatres or on a plane (me). It was shit!

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 7:40 p.m. CST

    I seriously think people who think T3 was "on the right track" ...

    by freak2thec0re

    are delusional. And it's those same people, some of them critics I respect, that fooled me into seeing that complete mess of a movie.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 7:44 p.m. CST

    liked the first movie....

    by KelVarnson

    Never was into Transformers. The toys came first, so there was no "cannon" to screw with as far as I know. I thought the first movie was a sloppily edited and directed action movie based on a line of toys. I'm guessing people wanted the movies based on the cartoon that was based on the toy line. The second one was too long. Both had Megan Fox to look at which isn't a bad thing at all. And I haven't seen the third movie yet. My thought would be to lessen any attempt at "developing" the human characters (didn't work before) and just have robots mostly fighting and make it 90 minutes or less in length. Oh and add a hot chick too.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 7:45 p.m. CST

    Take out the humans and I'd like these TF movies.

    by Onin Solstice

    Prime was taking names, and as long as Prime takes names, I am entertained. When Shia has an obligatory freakout, I am not entertained.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 7:46 p.m. CST

    2 films...(typo)

    by quantize

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 7:48 p.m. CST

    No surprise here

    by daggor

    Bay couldn't wave off the asston of money he'll get for this, and the endless line at the casting couch. We lose again. A really good TF movie IS POSSIBLE! Tell Steven to get his dick out of Tintin and do something worthwhile again.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 8:03 p.m. CST

    ransformers 3 was bewilderingly bad

    by CptBlood

    I mean that. It wasn't hate or anger or frustration I felt, it was just sheer bewilderment. There's a scene where an Asian guy I can't remember is sitting on a toilet screaming something, I think he's shouting "I AM NUMBER 2!" and my friend and I, both big transformers fans, both more than happy to spend £8 on 2 hours of action and eye candy just sort of stared in bewilderment. It was just baffling. There was so much money on the screen, Millions of dollars exploding in front of our eyes but for some reason here was this Asian guy in a toilet screaming “I AM NUMBER 2” It wasn’t even a joke or a pun or contextual, it was literally just an Asian Guy screaming in a toilet, and it was in close up. I’m pretty sure my memory must have messed with it but it felt like it went on for five minutes. Five minutes of an Asian guy on a toilet screaming “I AM NUMBER 2!” In close up. How does that happen ? with that amount of money flying around, how did that end up on screen ? who conceived of it ? how didn’t it get cut ? what the hell was that ? just sheer unfucking believable bewilderment. Someone explain to me how the hell that happened. All Transformers 3 is to me is an Asian guy in a toilet screaming “I AM NUMBER 2!” just... just... How ?... how ?... ... ... how ?

  • Or will it actually be the pile of complete shit that 2 & 3 really were? I'm assuming the latter. Still can't believe some of you actually defend the 3rd one with all the shit you guys trash...

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 8:08 p.m. CST

    One day very soon we will all be witness to....

    by Smartacus

    The first movie to reboot itself before the first film even ends. We'll be watching a movie and suddenly it will start over again... differently.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 8:11 p.m. CST

    Everyone says about the Transformers movies that

    by Mugato5150

    WTF did you expect? It's robots fighting! Shut off your bring and eat your popcorn! Okay, fine. I didn't know anything about the Transformers going into it, except I knew there were bad robots who where decepticons and good robots who were autobots. I knew the head good guy was Optimus Prime and had a basic idea of what he looked like. But all that was common knowledge. And they all fight the fuck out of each other. And Shia LeBeof rounded out the cast. So I didn't have a lot of histrionics going in. But everything was so fucking convoluted. The story didn't make any sense, the script and dialog was lame and pedestrian, the characters were fucking obnoxious and the transformers themselves didn't even transform in a logical way. They just sort of morphed from one state to the other. So it wasn't a matter of expecting more than robots fighting each other, it's that they just did it badly.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 8:11 p.m. CST

    Nah, the last 40 minutes of TF3 sucked just as much as the first 2 hours...

    by Ashs_Right_Hand

    C'mon Quint, you actually found enjoyment out of that nonsense? Just a mishmash of CGI metal and loud explosions. Flat out garbage. I'll take Sommer's GI Joe over this anyday. Lock this franchise up and throw away the key. (Oh, yeah, it made like $10 billion, so much for that.)

  • At the very least humans would hav a better connection with the effects since we would have 2 see the humans pilot the Robots most of the time

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 8:13 p.m. CST

    brain that is, not bring

    by Mugato5150

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 8:13 p.m. CST

    NOW WITH MORE 'SPLOSIONS!!

    by Get_Me_An_18-Man_Fire_Team_In_12_Hours

    Pyrotechnics handled by PROFESSIONALS.

  • Thank God the general Public worldwide and Hollywood totally ignore the 000.001 percent of fanboys and their nonsensical narrow minds and bitching!

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 8:21 p.m. CST

    Lack of Grimlock will render this pointless

    by jimbojones123

    And real, conflicted, and disgusted by Autobots Gridlock. The one that could lay a beating on Prime and Prime knows it Grimlock.

  • Yayy...more blobs of badly rendered CGI metal banging into one another to the strains of Linkin Park. TO THE EXXXTREME!!!!!!

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 8:29 p.m. CST

    reboot:YES, michael bay: NO!!

    by frenetik1

    keep it more in line with the 80's cartoons. and for chrissakes: its about the robots, so give them the main chunk of screentime -- not these annoying human characters. i agree with an earlier poster -- "the rock" was the only decent flick bay did (cheesy, maybe -- but "how do ya like how that shit works!" is still one of my favourite movie lines]. everything else he's made is just a 200minute coked-up MTV video. pure wank! please do it this time: proper reboot. old-school hasbro style. sans bay. pleeeease!!

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 8:36 p.m. CST

    @ Awareness

    by Zahaladeen

    Agreed - I would love to see large mech combat done right.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 8:38 p.m. CST

    What do you bet Dwayne THE ROCK Johnson winds up in this?

    by fustfick

    This motherfucker is in, like, every sequel to every movie he didn't originally appear in. I really wish Bay would just hurry up and make BAD BOYS 3 before Martin Lawrence winds up on the wrong side of a bathtub at the Beverly Hilton.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 8:46 p.m. CST

    Starring Andrew Garfield as Sam Witwicky ...

    by DickButtkiss

    And Emma Stone as Mikaela Banes

  • Bad, inconsistent characterizations, boring characters and over-designed robots. The CGI was absolutely fine and some of the stunts were quite good, but I just couldn't connect with any of it. Bay's style just annoys me.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 9:05 p.m. CST

    Please, please, please let this be true

    by Toe Jam

    I'd much rather have Bay occupied by an endless series of shitty "Transformer" movies than totally fucking up any other script/property/idea. Ideally, he'd just keep making "Bad Boys" sequels, as the second one was the only half-watchable movie he's made.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 9:07 p.m. CST

    Has Michael Bay made a movie anyone actually liked?

    by Zardoz

    No, seriously! It's ironic that Michael Bay adored David Fincher so much back in the Propaganda video days that he would follow him all over the place. Fincher got all the talent and critical accolades, while Bay gets blockbusters and infinite amounts of money, but no love. What does he care, right? He sleeps in a bed made of gold and cocaine, stuffed with money while bangin' 10 new hookers every single night!

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 9:11 p.m. CST

    I'm with stifler's mom

    by slone13

    Fuck these movies

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 9:13 p.m. CST

    zardoz

    by slone13

    I love Armageddon. Fucking love it. Yes, seriously.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 9:20 p.m. CST

    TF3 was action raised to an ART FORM.

    by Henri Pouper

    All of you haters are out of your arrogant little minds with hate. Sit your effeminate, pale little asses down and watch the movie objectively. I could not believe what I was watching, that's how amazing a lot of Mike Bay's shots were. Not even when I was a kid did I dream of a Transformers movie THAT good. Remember that part in Amadeus where Mozart stuns the king and his court of musical professionals by stating that he has twenty minutes of uninterrupted music in Le Nozze di Figaro? The last forty minutes of TF3 was the cinematic equivalent, a veritable audio-visual symphony of Geoff Darrow proportions. Michael Bay is unmatched among action directors; you do not create FORTY MINUTES of action that NEVER loses its momentum without being a master of your craft. I saw the movie twice in the cinema. Both times, the audience clapped at that slow-mo shot of Bumblebee ejecting Sam from his cabin, jumping into the air, then transforming into bipedal form, then deflecting canisters, then catching Sam, then landing and transforming back into vehicular mode. That whole shot was a perfect PARAGON of action cinema and worth the price of admission. I think I actually shed tears the first time. The veil of nerd rage against Michael Bay is really super bizarre. Here you have packs of geeks who will sit there and tell you that the 1980s cartoon is better than these movies. (Have any of your morons actually gone back and WATCHED the cartoons?? I have. Most of them are unwatchable, now.) I'll concur that the second movie had issues, but even in that picture, the action scenes -- particularly the forest and desert scenes -- were second to none. Such amazing composition in Bay's shots! (I'll never forget that scene in the first movie where Megatron jets down the Hoover Dam, swoops up, transforms, then lands with a hard and authoritative THUD, with Starscream transforming and coming down behind him. So damn BEAUTIFUL!) And one thing that people have been stressing about these movies is the importance of each robot's character coming across intact from the cartoon, and for the most part, Bay and the writers of these movies have delivered. Prime's wisdom and regality, Ironhide's well-meaning belligerence, Bumblebee's friendship with and devotion to Sam, Megatron's total disregard for human life and demand for loyalty, etc. Sure, the rivalry between Starscream and Megatron could have been better fleshed out, but that shortcoming hardly warrants the denigration of that whole aspect of the movies. So I'm viewing this as a big F.YOU to all you haters. I'm stoked that Bay is onboard for three more (not a reboot, other sites are reporting), and I can't wait to see them. ROCK!

  • They'll really only want to watch movies starring their own kind anyway. Even cgi representations.

  • FACT.

  • Hahahaha, I was so wrong it's not even funny. Then again, they gave Superman to Zack Snyder, same difference. ( ._.)

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 9:40 p.m. CST

    You guys who are sucking up to Bay are really angry and pissed off

    by Mugato5150

    Damn. People are making legitimate reasons why they don't like his work and they're met with ad homin attacks against their basement related living conditions and the other cliched shit. Well, Bay still isn't going to fuck you guys, sorry. As for a Bay movie I do like, The Rock was decent. Even though it still had the usual Bay tropes, the low angle slow mo shots and over saturated...well you know them all but Sean Connery and Ed Harris elevated it.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 9:43 p.m. CST

    Cut all the actors

    by GeorgieBoy

    Just have a movie with fighting robots. No one gives a flip about Shia and the parents. (Ok, I'll give you the hottie.) And make it SHORTER. 90 minutes of over-the-top-totally-ridiculous-action-in-orange-sunset-tones is about all anyone should be asked to endure.

  • things like an Aliens sequel, Terminator, Starship Troopers, The Forever War (since it appears Sir Ridley has lost interest in this one), Bond, World War Z part II, Iron Man, X-Men, or any other Marvel or DC comic book adaptation. If he keeps busy with his crass version of Transformers and maybe a Bad Boys III over the next few years, he won't be able to ruin anything else.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 9:54 p.m. CST

    Stop jerking off into my jar ceejaynightwing!

    by Barnald

  • Now that is what we need. Seriously. I might have just blown a load at the awesomeness of this idea. Oh, and don't forget Robotech too.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 10 p.m. CST

    Bullshit.

    by nonsensical

    I was hopeful that someone else might get a crack at actually rebooting the Transformers movies. Someone who actually gives a shit about Transformers who could actually tell compelling stories with action supporting the film. Nope. Why bother. Michael Bay can just make his tinfoil robots blow shit up with a whole new cast and vague plot. People each that shit right up. Looks like we will have to wait for him to die before we get a decent Transformers movie that's about the Transformers.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 10:01 p.m. CST

    LOWER YOUR STANDARDS TO SHIT!!!

    by Nerd Rage

    STUDIO PLANTS GOTTA EAT!!!

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 10:02 p.m. CST

    LOWER YOUR STANDARDS TO SHIT!!!

    by Nerd Rage

    STUDIO PLANTS GOTTA EAT!!!

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 10:02 p.m. CST

    LOWER YOUR STANDARDS TO SHIT!!!

    by Nerd Rage

    STUDIO PLANTS GOTTA EAT!!!

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 10:03 p.m. CST

    Blame it on the Chinese. They eat this shit up.

    by mistergreen

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 10:06 p.m. CST

    these threads are ALWAYS a guest list of opening night

    by Uncle Pooky

    and then owners of the blu-ray.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 10:07 p.m. CST

    That last was one was awful... just awful...

    by Teddy Artery

    I'll be skipping this next one with a vengeance.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 10:11 p.m. CST

    TRANSFORMERS HAS BEEN HIJACKED BY FRATBOYS AND CON ARTISTS

    by Nerd Rage

    A FEW GET RICH AND THE REST GET CHEATED.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 10:12 p.m. CST

    TRANSFORMERS HAS BEEN HIJACKED BY FRATBOYS AND CON ARTISTS

    by Nerd Rage

    A FEW GET RICH AND EVERYONE ELSE GETS CHEATED!!!

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 10:12 p.m. CST

    The Fall of Cybertron trailer destroys all 3 Bayformers movies

    by Relugus

    jimbojones123 you speak the righteous truth. The comics Grimlock is such a fantastic, complex character that he could add a huge amount to Transformers films. You've got that whole angle with him not taking orders from anyone and criticising Prime's compassion and morals, and his general disdain for the Autobots, and him being utterly ruthless. The tension between him and Optimus is the stuff of great drama; rivalry and conflict mixed with mutual respect. Grimlock transforming into a tank would perfectly illustrate the contrast between him and the other Autobots. With Optimus and Grimlock you have a whole dramatic arc which is far more interesting than any of that human crap. The problem is the way Bay portrayed Prime in DotM (as a cold-blooded killer who has no qualms about sacrificing humans) makes Grimlock redundant because of Prime being a psycho. Bay doesn't understand Transformers, he misses the whole fucking point; they are sentient robots and thus are anthropomorphic characters. That's what makes them cool, not the transforming and blowing shit up. Making the Decepticons into alien-looking drones again misses the entire point. Shockwave, one of the greatest comic-book villains ever, gets one line of dialogue and rides around on a worm. How utterly...illogical. A better plot for DotM would have been thus: Megatron is deposed by Shockwave, who conspires with Sentinel Prime (who ousts Optimus and leads a faction of Autobots including Blades, Sunstreaker and Mirage) to take a "logical" course of action and builds a space bridge to transport the Decepticons to Earth. Megatron, leading a small faction still loyal to him including Soundwave, Lazerbeak, Rumble, Skywarp, and Runabout and Runamuck, seeks to regain his throne from Shockwave. Starscream and Swindle try to play both Decepticon factions against each other for their own gain. Megatron and Optimus agree a truce to stop Shockwave and Sentinel, joining forces against their common enemies. There is a huge battle in Chicago with the Autobot/Decepticon alliances clashing with each other; Sideswipe and Sunstreaker duel. Starscream betrays Shockwave in the final duel between Shockwave and Megatron, but is then killed by Soundwave before he can kill a badly wounded Megatron. Optimus and Sentinel battle, Sentinel appears to be about to kill Optimus but is shot through the head by Mirage's hunting rifle. Megatron and Soundwave, and some of the Decepticons, retreat through the space-bridge just as it is destroyed. Optimus muses that the temporary alliance between Autobot and Decepticon perhaps offers a hope of peace in the future. Mid-Credits Epilogue: Swindle is seen meeting up with arms dealers in an unknown desert. "This is a good place to do business", he says, as Ratbat lands on his shoulder, "indeed, this planet offers up great business opportunities for the discerning entrepreneur."

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 10:12 p.m. CST

    TRANSFORMERS HAS BEEN HIJACKED BY FRATBOYS AND CON ARTISTS

    by Nerd Rage

    A FEW GET RICH AND EVERYONE ELSE GETS CHEATED!!!

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 10:13 p.m. CST

    TRANSFORMERS HAS BEEN HIJACKED BY FRATBOYS AND CON ARTISTS

    by Nerd Rage

    A FEW GET RICH AND EVERYONE ELSE GETS CHEATED!!!

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 10:14 p.m. CST

    TOP REASON FOR REBOOT???

    by Nerd Rage

    NEVER GO FULL RETARD!!!

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 10:19 p.m. CST

    I bet Mark Kermode is over the "moon" with this news!

    by emeraldman

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 10:24 p.m. CST

    $2,670,000,000.00 World Wide Gross....Was there any Question?

    by conspiracy

    Not counting merchandise... There isn't a person who worked above the line on these films that isn't swimming in fucking Cash. They all made SO much money they can basically do what they want...money is no longer an issue with any of the profit participants in this franchise...provided they didn't get screwed for Net Points. Really...I dislike these films...but the numbers don't fucking lie...I'm in the minority.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 10:25 p.m. CST

    What's it going to be, Beast Wars?

    by Pipple

    Bay going to completely miss the point of that series too?

  • I will never, ever ever watch another Bay movie. I skipped TF3 and will not watch any other piece of crap that hack spews out onto the world.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 10:28 p.m. CST

    Creepythinman's F, A, C, & T keys should be removed...

    by GBH

    Then his name would just be Reepyhinmn - FACT!!!

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 10:29 p.m. CST

    TF1 was meh..TF2 was insulting...TF3 was better...

    by conspiracy

    But better here is definitely a relative terms. I will say the Model was an improvement over Fox...and the Chicago scenes were pretty fucking Fun....the rest...Blah.

  • Until people get involved that grew up watching these shows and really have a special place in their hearts for them, we will continue to get awful remakes and reboots. Take Peter Jackson's love for LOTR, it was a labor of love for him to get that shit right. Instead we have douchebags ruining my childhood.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 10:33 p.m. CST

    I still Maintain that Michael Bay...

    by conspiracy

    better than any other director currently working, has his fingers on the pulse of the worlds Movie going public. Loud, silly, chaotic, empty, vapid, crap....that make more money than the gdp of most 3rd world counties.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 10:35 p.m. CST

    These movies are irredeemable dogshit.

    by JRcanReid

    Each one worst than the last. I'll stick with Transformers: The Movie (1986). Fuck you, Michael Bay.

  • And the Transformers films making 2.67 billion over one trilogy is certainly damn good, but what about some of the upcoming stuff that will easily rival it? The Hobbit parts I and II together could make that much. The Dark Knight Rises will probably make about 1.5 billion, so when you add up that with the grosses of the other two Nolan Batman films, that trilogy should equal or surpass the B.O. of Bayformers 1-3. I think they might have been better off getting someone else to direct Transformers 4. It sets up Bay to have to top himself after the third film's supposed 40 minute orgy of action and special FX. What if he is burnt out? A new director tackling the Transformers now will ease the tension of having to have Bay go even bigger and more crazy with the spectacle. The other thing to consider is, imagine if they actually made these films good for a change? Still action packed with effects, but with better plots and some good character development. They'd still bring in the people that liked the first 3, but could also bring in the stragglers that wanted to like these films because they were Transformers fans since back in the day, but couldn't get over the crap-i-ness (FX excluded) of the Bay style with these films. Also, it would just be refreshing to have someone new take over for a change. Which I am not only singling out Transformers either. I feel the same way about Nolan ending his stint on Batman with The Dark Knight Rises. Then again, it could be that Orci and Kurtzman leaving Transformers and the producers hiring new writers might reinvigorate Bay a bit. Maybe he'll listen to the comments about the thin plots, annoying characters, and will instead of trying for more FX, will make his priority the story instead...? A silly notion, but why shouldn't he try to do that?

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 10:49 p.m. CST

    Sadly, the sheeple will continue to buy tickets.

    by LabattsBleu

    Really, why would hollywood change anything when there are plenty of people willing to watch this kind of movie under the guise of it being a "popcorn" movie. Really? These movies have been terrible but for the novelty of seeing toys you grew up with in motion. These are the same people that actually like Terminator $alvation and will be the first in line to watch Battleship. Hell, if Connect Four became a movie, these people would still watch it... Idiocracy wasn't a movie I watch, because of its horrible reviews, but the premise is correct: People are getting dumber. That's why these movies get made.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 10:58 p.m. CST

    @Asi

    by MrLongbaugh

    Aside from J.J.'s Trek, The TF movies are the greatest thing to ever hit the screen. FACT!!! LMAO

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 11:05 p.m. CST

    i dunno whats worst

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    the people who judge peoples intelligence based off if they enjoyed these movies or the people who actually say theres a compelling story to tell regarding aliens who decide to disguise themselves as tape record players or a giant gun...

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 11:06 p.m. CST

    lv_426 Bob and Alex didn't write #3..this was a fresh crew...

    by conspiracy

    But other than the 1/3 of the film...it wasn't much different than what came before...the parents were possibly even MORE fucking intolerable than before.... I really think Bay himself take the scripts...and then simply BAYIFIES them on set...I really do. It seems no matter who writes them...the films always turn out...well...like Bay had wrote them himself. I'm sure Bob can't say much more than he has...but I'd sure like to know how a Bay film gets made.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 11:08 p.m. CST

    What's with this "rape" of "childhood memories" thing?

    by jorson28

    First, it was with Star Wars, now it's with Trasformers - either way, so many on here talk about producers, writers and directors "raping" their "childhood memories" by doing different things with these properties. What is that about? People grow up, they make NEW memories and watch NEW movies... at least, most do. And I'm usually not one to advocate the emulation of "most people," but given the FACT that what you guys allegedly remember from childhood still exists, what is it you want from these movies if not something at least a little different? People REMAKE movies and you complain. People REBOOT movies and you complain. People MAKE SEQUELS to movies and you complain. I thought you guys LIKED movies and WANTED originality. I guess it never occurs to some of you that not everything "original" or "new" is going to be to your particular liking. As for the Transformers movies, I'm kind of indifferent because even though I as aware of the franchise growing up, it was nothing to me but a bunch of giant robots... machines fighting machines and the loser inevitably has a screw loose. Big deal. Even if there is some metaphorical meaning to the stories you remember, it's probably something that either was or is now in about a half-million other things that all seem to embrace the same hero's journey - usually with some allegedly pacifist "hero" forced to fight a war to overthrow tyranny and bring peace... and it just so happens that this "peaceful" hero or group of heroes is the best fighter or group of fighters on one or more planets. Having said all that, my guess is that if Kevin Smith made the cheapest Transformers movie possible and it consisted mostly of Optimus and his team cracking jokes and sniffing fumes from one another's gas tanks, you'd probably take two seconds to acknowledge the lack of action, but find some excuse to defend it as being better than anything Michael Bay has done, if only because you had a new source of Kevin Smith jokes. At least Kevin wouldn't intentionally "rape" your "childhood memories," right? I really get the sense that I'm wasting my time asking because there's probably no logical answer anyway. Oh, well... if this is how you get your kicks, more power to you. Heaven knows that nothing is more worth defending than the right to be completely and utterly irrational.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 11:13 p.m. CST

    jorson's post FTW

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    he made a ton of good points but his thoughts will be lost in the sea of negativity, bad attempts to make people feel stupid, and/or those attempting to make jokes thats been told years ago

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 11:16 p.m. CST

    No..Kevin Smith WOULD definitely rape my Childhood...

    by conspiracy

    have you seen that fucker? Dude takes his jollies anyway he can get them. Bay doesn't need to rape...he has unknown actresses for that...But he does make Really Stupid films about Really fucking cool 80's vintage Toys.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 11:18 p.m. CST

    REBOOTS IN DISGUISE

    by the Green Gargantua

    sorry.

  • Yeah no storytelling potential there just continue making piss/fart jokes.

  • Why not call it "Gobots" or "Battleship"? Oh because these con artists want to profit from nostalgia without providing nostalgia.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 11:37 p.m. CST

    If Transformers makes BILLIONS being redundant shit...

    by Nerd Rage

    Imagine if they were actually good.

  • They know that what sells these movies is the concept of big robots fighting each other.the spectacle,the action,the cgi. Not the characters,the story,the drama,the emotion,the intelligence,the themes and the messages,nothing from all those things that make a great movie. So they are rebooting Transformers with the same shitty director who knows how to make and sell fastfood movies to the lowest common denominator,they fire the old ,but now expensive,main cast and they are creating a new story with new robots-toys to sell. Hollywood is an industry which sells products,not creating art.it's time to accept this fact.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 11:45 p.m. CST

    LOL you haters make me laugh

    by Witwiki50

    You all hated on the 2nd movie, saying how it sucked and that you werent going to watch another Bay Transformers, but yet, your all STILL commenting on the 3rd movie, so its obvious you all see it! hahahaha your all pathetic!!

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 11:49 p.m. CST

    You suckers make me laugh

    by Nerd Rage

    Projecting your own foolish intentions of watching shitty movies on anyone who dares demand better.

  • Michael Bay shows up with his GARBAGE yet again. Fucking sad Hollywood.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 11:51 p.m. CST

    whats not recognizable nerd rage?

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    ...aliens on earth? check ...alien dressed up as a 18wheeler for no real good reason? check ...a younger robot named Bumblebee? check ...a bad guy named Megatron? check so, whats unrecognizable? let me guess? you have the 23rd issue of the comic book series that you cherish and you put it in a protective sleeve, and wish that all people around the world shared your love of a fucking toy commercial from the 80s? and let me guess, youre in your late 30s or higher? because I have never met anyone born in the 80s who actually holds this "property" is such high regards as it seems you do

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 11:51 p.m. CST

    People are commenting, you moron, because it's a story on this site.

    by IronEagle74

    And they visit this site for movie news, most of which is overblown CGI/3-D garbage these days.

  • Feb. 13, 2012, 11:59 p.m. CST

    I only saw TF3 because it was 11pm on a Cruise Ship...

    by conspiracy

    in the middle of the Pacific on my way to Hawai'i....had had a six pack of XX..and figured...What the Fuck. No way I'd pay to see a Bayfest...

  • Feb. 14, 2012, midnight CST

    I walked out of Transformers 3

    by topaz4206

    My wife got off work and I was like "this is boring the shit out of me, I'd rather go see her."

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 12:01 a.m. CST

    labattsbleu, GREAT point about "Idiocracy."

    by IronEagle74

    That's exactly where this country is headed. Younger generations are getting dumber by the minute, I swear. But you're right, that's why Hollywood keeps making this GARBAGE and why they've spurned the rest of us who want movies with substance. The almighty dollar is the bottom line, and as long as they're making a killing off of these overblown PG-13 CGI/3-D garbage movies, they're going to keep producing them by the dozens. They're going to keep rolling out the sequels, prequels, and even pathetically re-boot a franchise after only a couple of years so they can grab even more money off the same played out idea. And if all of that wasn't enough, they're remaking every damn 80's movie ever made because that was the best decade for movies and Hollywood has completely run out of ideas. I almost never go see movies anymore, especially ones in the action and sci-fi genres. Those two genres are dead.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 12:02 a.m. CST

    what's there not to recognize in Schumacher's Batman and Robin

    by Nerd Rage

    - superheroes in Gotham? check - guy in batsuit? check - younger hero named Robin? check - a bad guy named Bane? check These funny books don't have potential...The world doesn't share your obsession with a fucking cartoon book...blah blah blah... - a quote from yourstepdaddy in 1996

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 12:02 a.m. CST

    Bay! Reboot?..Why?....

    by BlackBriar

    Oh My......These films are the biggest waste of time and it makes billions.Then they shove it in are faces! Damn You Michael Bay!!!

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 12:02 a.m. CST

    killik ...I've been trying to tell you guys that for years...

    by conspiracy

    Film is, and always HAS BEEN a PRODUCT. Films are made to make money...not because some guys get together and decide.."We've got a spare $200,000,000 sitting around...lets make some ART.". Film is Product, made to entertain people and sell as many tickets as possible...any "Art" that happens is a happy accident.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 12:04 a.m. CST

    I saw it through Netflix. I did pay to see in the theatre.

    by mistergreen

    I heard tf3 was good so i rented it. The action was good but the story was mind numbing crap like the tf2.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 12:05 a.m. CST

    Didn't

    by mistergreen

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 12:10 a.m. CST

    Yes blockbusters is about a product

    by Nerd Rage

    But what's wrong with a product that isn't disposable, that enriches your dreams when you go to sleep, that you proudly show your kids, that you remember fondly for years? A product that makes you love movies and the power of imagination.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 12:13 a.m. CST

    You guys who are sucking up to Bay are really angry and pissed off

    by Henri Pouper

    Bullshit. We just come off that way to you because you're a bunch of girls. Girls always that someone is being irrational when that someone criticizes them. We love the movies and we're telling you exactly why. 90% of you haters, on the other hand, are indistinguishable from one another, just parroting hate without explaining why beyond unsubstantiated claims that the CG sucked (LOL, stay delusional) or that Shia LaBeouf can't act (LOL again) or that the script was bland (OK fair point, but it has its moments, for sure) or that the hot girl can't act (who gives a sh!t???).

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 12:28 a.m. CST

    regardless the quality of Batman and Robin

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    it WAS a Batman movie. it was campy, but nonetheless it WAS a Batman movie. Batman can be dark, gritty, or campy, depending on the team. there were many choices in the movie, but it was still a Batman movie (if it wasnt, you would be calling it BINO or something nerds call shit that doesnt fit their own personal view of a property) now, explain to me how Transformers was not a Transformers movie again. because bringing up Batman and Robin was pointless

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 12:34 a.m. CST

    The whole idea of Transformers...

    by Relugus

    Is that they are LIVING ROBOTS, and each of them, every single one of them, has a unique, distinct personality, and their own agendas...some examples: OPTIMUS PRIME - "Freedom is the right of all sentient beings" Courageous, compassionate, powerful. His compassion is both a strength and a weakness. In the Marvel comics he wrestled with with whether his morals and compassion had prolonged the war. GRIMLOCK - "Amongst the winners, there can be no room for the weak" Courageous, utterly devoid of compassion, arrogant, yet also noble. A born warrior and a natural leader, Grimlock relishes combat and violence, yet also detests the strong bullying the weak. Grimlock believes Optimus Prime is "soft" and that his morals and compassion make him weak and deny the Autobots the chance of victory. Despite this, underneath that Grimlock respects Optimus as a leader. ULTRA MAGNUS - "Consistency is victory" A great soldier, Magnus is uncomfortable with the reigns of leadership, and plagued by self-doubt. MIRAGE - "Who and what I am, I hide from my enemy" An aristocrat more accustomed to drinking fine Energon and hunting turbo-foxes, Mirage has little appetite for war, and doubts the Autobot cause. He resents being around commoners such as Gear, Ironhide, etc. SUNSTREAKER - "They can't beat the best" An arrogant, vain socio-path. Cares more about his looks than anything else. In the Marvel comics, he allowed humans to die just so he would not damage his paintjob. MEGATRON - "Peace through tyranny" Megatron, in several TF continuities, is depicted as a Cybertronian (in one story a miner) who rebelled against the decadent and corrupt elites who ruled Cybertron and became a tyrannical thug. Planned to turn Cybertron into a weapon. SOUNDWAVE - "Cries and screams are music to my ears" A snitch who spies on, and blackmails others, Sounwave is detested by most Decepticons but is Megatron's most trusted lieutenant. STARSCREAM - "Conquest is made of the ashes of one's enemies" Vain, arrogant, and treacherous, Starscream considers himself the most handsome of Transformers and believes he would make a better leader than Megatron. Craves power and glory. SHOCKWAVE - "Clarity of thought before rashness of action" Cold, logical, and cunning, Shockwave regards Megatron's leadership as illogical, emotional, and incompetent, and sees himself as the most logical choice to lead the Decepticons. Despite immense power, Shockwave prefers to plot and scheme than fight. THUNDERCRACKER - "The deadliest weapon is terror" Doubts the Decepticon cause, and is reluctant to kill civilians. SWINDLE - "Make deals, not war" Capitalist first, Decepticon second, Swindle is a con-man, an opportunist, a hustler—or as he would put it, an entrepreneur. Unlike his fellow Combaticons, the Autobot-Decepticon war is to him merely an opportunity for networking, cutting deals, and making profit. He's an expert on all manner of weaponry and their market prices, and he prides himself on being able to sell anything to pretty much anybody. All he needs is a smile. And that's the tip of the iceberg, throw in characters like NIGHTBEAT (Autobot detective), RATBAT (Decepticon CEO), suicidal DEAD END, hippy BEACHCOMBER, anti-social thug SLAG, and a heap more and its amazing how Bay could have fucked up with such a goldmine of characters.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 12:38 a.m. CST

    excellent post, relugus

    by Nerd Rage

    Till all are one

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 12:39 a.m. CST

    Bay doesn't get it

    by Nerd Rage

    His supporters don't get it. To them, Transformers are just planes and trucks that fight as mindless robots but to us who actually appreciate the Transformers mythos it's about looking at any random plane and truck and seeing energy depleted mechanical planets where working class machines. who are just as alive and spirited as anyone you know, fight an intergalactic war for freedom over military tyranny with human-like desperation and hope. That's what we see when we recognize an autobot or decepticon symbol...Not piss jokes, skinny supermodels and random explosions.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 12:39 a.m. CST

    YES MORE TRANSFORMERS

    by bingolong

    Less humans!! Take time and really do a transformer movie were the robots actually have more personality than Johnny 5ive!!

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 12:47 a.m. CST

    there is NO good reason to WATCH another Transformers

    by antonphd

    that is directed by Michael Bay and the ONLY reason Bay will direct again is for the money, because he only ever cared about making money

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 12:56 a.m. CST

    MAKE BAD BOYS 3 INSTEAD.

    by F-18

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 1:04 a.m. CST

    Trying to watch those films hurts my eyes and gives me a migraine ...

    by unclemonty666

    .... my eyes can't take in the speed and quantity of those special effects. The cgi of those robots is great, but its all too fast. And the human subplots are just banal. At least the garage-mechanic slut is easy on the eyes.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 1:08 a.m. CST

    Transformers mythos...

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    what nerds say when they want to elevate a toy commercial into something grander... whats nerd rage thoughts on Battleship? is he mad the movie is not actually set on a 10x10 board?

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 1:11 a.m. CST

    and yes, make a Bad Boys III

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    I dont care how ridiculous it gets, I need more Mike Lowery and Marcus Barnett! ps: "i wanna be i wanna be just like Mike--pow!"

  • That's like saying a Batman movie has no more potential than a movie based on Connect Four.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 1:25 a.m. CST

    Transformers does have hundreds of connected stories

    by Nerd Rage

    It's no more of a toy comercial than Spider-man or Star Wars.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 1:36 a.m. CST

    What's not recognizable in Alien Resurrection?

    by lv_426

    ...aliens set loose on a space ship? check ...new twist on the alien life cycle with the Newborn? check ...evil greedy company wants aliens for weapons/research? check ...an android character? check ...a heroine named Ripley? check If only it were that easy to make awesome films, especially sequels.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 1:41 a.m. CST

    Battleship could have had a grand mythos to draw from

    by lv_426

    All of the World War I and World War II epic naval battles, but NOOOO, WE HAD TO HAVE BATTLESHIPS FIGHTING FUCKING ALIENS!!!!!!

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 1:46 a.m. CST

    Whoa... brilliant idea here

    by lv_426

    What if Bay combined Transformers with Bad Boys? Will Smith (and I'm sure his son would have to get a part to replace Shia) and Martin Lawrence team up with the Autobots to save the Earth. Martin Lawrence: we got some alien robots invading the planet yo! Will Smith: AWWHHHH HEEELLLLLL NAAAWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 1:50 a.m. CST

    I don't think Bay is obsessed with money so much as it is

    by lv_426

    that his obsessions are blowing shit up in ridiculous ways and using his camera rigs like giant mechanical phallus-like machines that reveal and penetrate the spiritual core of his hottie actresses in ways that mere fucking the hell outta them can't. He's already got tons' o cash, so it seems obvious that he still does these films to get his 'splosion orgy and camera violatin' hot-chick director-god kicks.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 1:51 a.m. CST

    Damn conspiracy, didn't you write up a Bay story once?

    by lv_426

    I think we may need you again, to put my theory to narrative form.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 2 a.m. CST

    yay, lets make -whats nots recognizable- a new meme! also lv426

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    unless you post at another site with your great movie ideas, I actually saw the Bad Boys X Transformers mashup idea... like I said, in regards to Bad Boys, I DONT GIVE A FUCK HOW RIDICULOUS IT GETS. make Lowery a vampire, Barnett a werewolf, going up a gang of zombies who are dealing alien drugs given to them by Decepticons in Paris (need a new expensive setting to blow up)... Ill watch it, hell, Ill watch it in Imax PS: dont mind me, Im just jonesing for a new BB... Ill take Bad Boys Junior starring Jayden and Justin Bieber (doing black face)...

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 2:08 a.m. CST

    Bay hates people's childhood memories. Ask him.

    by Onin Solstice

    Next Prime revision will have even more flames and an even wider vagina mouth.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 2:35 a.m. CST

    reboot??? what a stupid fucking idea!!!!

    by danny rose

  • Spoiler!

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 2:46 a.m. CST

    today is a good day!

    by Richard

    My TF3 3D blu just arrived.... and now this! Dinobots please Mr Bay.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 2:52 a.m. CST

    My Dad Dissapoints Me

    by Dan Lalonde

    Just when I thought my pops was done making kids films and was gonna go back to hard R films like Bad Boys 2 I hear this.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 2:59 a.m. CST

    A reboot? That's fucking hilarious.

    by MajorFrontbum

    First Abraham Lincoln and Vampires, now reboots of films released fifteen minutes ag?. Next they'll probably try and convince us all that tits are no good!

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 3:07 a.m. CST

    Micheal Bay must die.

    by bob_uzumaki

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 3:34 a.m. CST

    They should make the designs like the video game Fall of Cybertron

    by king_vidor

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 3:34 a.m. CST

    And bring GRIM LOCK and BRUTICUS!

    by king_vidor

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 3:41 a.m. CST

    Reboot might just mean Galvatron and Unicron.

    by SiouxCitySarsaparilla

  • Bay is the "highest paid director in the world"? What kind of fucked up world do we live in where a talentless hack like Bay is the world's highest paid director? Bay needs to be fired and a proper Gen 1 reboot needs to be done. All this bullshit about hiring Jason Statham is pointless as long as those fucking awful robot designs persist and the vehicle modes are just used to sell car advertising. I don't think my disappointment and hate for Bay's TINO films could be any more pronounced. They are the fucking anti-cinema.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 4:05 a.m. CST

    Maybe those Jason Stratham rumours were on the money

    by KiwiMetal

    Anyway, more robots, less humans. It also sounds like Shia has burned a few bridges.

  • It's not like they are able to watch My Dinner with Andre.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 4:16 a.m. CST

    sad, sad haters...

    by Lemure_v2

    Imagine clicking on a link to something you have no interest in just to bitch and whine...

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 4:45 a.m. CST

    Reboot by booting Bay

    by Koborover

    Give a talented guy a chance to give the Transformers brand more than just the big/dumb/loud treatment.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 5:12 a.m. CST

    I'd rather watch R2D2 fapping to midget porn!!!!....

    by cameron

    Bay is testement to all that's wrong in hollywood today..all style no substance.

  • his whole career is a confirmation of his complete mental retardness in making movies. Never i have seen before such a supremely untalent person for anything regarding filmmaking. This guy is the worst!

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 6:17 a.m. CST

    ganymede3010

    by AsimovLives

    the differenceis that George Lucas has made some good movies and he was indeed a true visionary who helped shaped modern cinema. Menawhile, Bay has never made a good movie even in his life, and his best "accomplishments" are just bad and very dumvbed down copies from much more talented filmmakers. There is no comparison between Lucas and Bay.

  • People who call themselves movie geeks and take pleasure in this Trashfuckmers movies should hold their head down in shame.

  • Where is their incentive, as awful filmmakers, to even try to make something good when you'll eagerly consume ANYTHING they throw at you? Bay is an asshole, and he's one of the worst directors of all time, but YOU made him a superstar by paying money to see this mind-numbingly awful crap. You're just as guilty. Same goes for ANYONE who bought the "even specialer" Star Wars blu-rays or saw The Phantom Menass 3D. YOU'RE TO BLAME.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 6:32 a.m. CST

    smartacus

    by AsimovLives

    One day very soon we will all be witness to the first movie to reboot itself before the first film even ends. We'll be watching a movie and suddenly it will start over again... differently.

  • When i heard for the first time that Brad Bird was to direct a live action movie for the first time, which ended up as MI4: GHOST PROTOCOL, i though this was Paramount Pictures grooming and testing him for a future Transformers movie after Bay's participation had ended with the 3rd shitfilm. Now it seems that Bay is back for a 4th movie. I'm sad for the transformers fans. You guys deserved a guy like Brad Bird directing them. I'm so sorry.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 6:49 a.m. CST

    I'm predicting a masterpiece

    by melonman

    All roads have been leading to the 4th movie. A movie so Baysomely retarded it will kill off the last remaining brain cells in the audience, bringing forth the ultimate Baymageddon where the maestro finally reveals himself to be the cinephiliac Anti-Christ, destroying cinema, and obviously, as collateral damage, the world.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 6:49 a.m. CST

    Or we could just decide not to watch the fucking thing

    by melonman

  • Michael Bay being one of the highest paid directors is absolutely offensive.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 7:02 a.m. CST

    It should probably star TOM CRUISE… as OPTIMUS

    by melonman

    Or maybe ADAM SANDLER…

  • Armageddon, which was co-writen by one JJ Abrams.

  • Spielberg used to be the best payed director in the world, but it was justified in that not only was he very sucessful but also very talented. His movies were sucessful because they were good. So his high earnings felt justified. Not so in the case of Bay.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 7:23 a.m. CST

    I'd like to see you make a better movie.

    by Trannyformers_Apologist

    What where you expecting it's a summer blockbuster

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 7:24 a.m. CST

    "It's an action movie its not supposed to have a plot"

    by Trannyformers_Apologist

    It's a kids movie

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 7:25 a.m. CST

    "It's not Shakespeare"

    by Trannyformers_Apologist

    You went in wanting to hate it!

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 7:26 a.m. CST

    You have to turn your brain off.

    by Trannyformers_Apologist

    I go to movies to be entertained not to THINK!

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 7:39 a.m. CST

    How could it be a "Reboot" if this fucker is still onboard?

    by Stalkeye

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 7:45 a.m. CST

    lv_426 ...Yes...Bay is often a topic, a deservedly so...

    by conspiracy

    Perhaps...closer to production...once I know the cast and production team...I will continue the story of Hollywoods elite deviants.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 7:46 a.m. CST

    a=and 5:45am here people...could really use an edit button.

    by conspiracy

  • If you missed it in 3D IMAX you probably don't know that.

  • Or they could just get a talented storyteller like Brad Bird or Alfonso Cuaron to take over.

  • You are a nerd who loves giant robots.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 7:56 a.m. CST

    Only Transformers I want to see is...

    by RG

    When Robot Chicken makes fun of it.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 7:57 a.m. CST

    Agree I'll take Brad Bird for this series. Perfect fit.

    by UltraTron

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 7:58 a.m. CST

    Bay should reboot Passion Of The Christ

    by tiggr009

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 7:59 a.m. CST

    The best action movies have plots

    by Nerd Rage

    Who cares if John McClane jumps off a building or Indiana Jones jumps ontop a tank unless these scenes have context?

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 8 a.m. CST

    It's not Shakespeare?

    by Nerd Rage

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 8 a.m. CST

    It's not Shakespeare?

    by Nerd Rage

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 8:06 a.m. CST

    It's not Shakespeare?

    by Nerd Rage

    We don't want Shakespeare, we want action, characters and conflicts that are enhanced by a decent sci-fi narrative. Not just shiny shit thrown at the audience with contempt.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 8:06 a.m. CST

    Too soon.

    by Subtitles_Off

    Plus, the new suit looks gay.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 8:06 a.m. CST

    asi: unfortunately ARMAGEDDON is a guilty pleasure of mine

    by melonman

    Ridiculous quintuple ham and cheese burger, but if I'm in the mood, I love it. What can I say? I'm a massive BRUCE WILLIS fan, especially back then (it's been getting harder and harder these days, although LOOPER looks like being a welcome breath of fresh air). I'm sure there must be dodgy fave in your closet somewhere.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 8:09 a.m. CST

    You have to turn your brain off.

    by Subtitles_Off

    If you're willing to turn your brain off, for any reason, forget going to the movies, you don't do anything, ever, to think. All caps won't change it. Your momma raised a dullard.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 8:10 a.m. CST

    Puts jaws in laps.

    by Subtitles_Off

    Just like all gay stuff.

  • "eat shit and die".

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 8:20 a.m. CST

    Fuck Transformers.

    by kidicarus

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 8:24 a.m. CST

    If this is a "reboot", they should cast Frank Welker as Megatron!

    by Jake Pantlin

    He would certainly be cheeper to pay than Hugo Weaving. He would sound better too! I really don't care about them casting new actors in the roles of the "fleshings", so long as Peter Cullen returns as Optimus Prime!

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 8:31 a.m. CST

    Action movies don't have to be terrible

    by Larry Sellers

    I'm not saying they have to be intellectually stimulating. But they don't have to be long, drawn out, CG wank fests with a Victoria's Secret model getting a lead role. It's fucking Transformers. I know it was a half-hour toy commercial (every series of it). But it can be entertaining and fun without making weed references, sexual innuendos, and Patrick Dempsey.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 8:37 a.m. CST

    Transformers 3 was HEINOUSLY bad

    by Jaster Mareel

    Sentinal Prime has a teleporter thing that the opening describes as "a weapon". Ummm, okaaaay. And it turns out it needs a LOT of setting up to even work. And for some reason he's flying all the pieces around in a ship. Here's where it gets REAAALLY stupid. The ship gets shot down directly over the Transformers planet.....but it crashes on the fucking MOON! EARTH'S MOON! How in the fucking FUCK? So then NASA goes and checks it out. Discovers an alien craft loaded with alien technology.....says "meh" and GOES THE FUCK HOME! UMMM...HELLLOOOO? MCFLY? How does that make a lick of fucking sense? Let's talk about the new chick. She was like a human/giraffe hybrid who could barely breath through her inflated lips. Why did we need to watch Shia spend 15 minutes going on job interviews? Sure they got rid of mudflap and skids, but they replaced them with 2 new, equally annoying robots. The little ones that lived with Shia. They were supposed to be comic relief, I suppose, but they never uttered a single line that was even halfway amusing. Mostly we just cut to them so they could say "Hey, who's that?" "I don't know." or something equally as useless. Everyone goes on and on about the tilted building sequence and it's definitely the best part of the film, but it's not like we haven't seen it before. The first one that pops to mind is Cloverfield. Uncharted 2 also had a similar sequence. And the final insult was the ending where the dues ex machina of a giant toilet bowl in the sky shows up and sucks out only the bad robots.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 8:39 a.m. CST

    Reboot? Don't you need a story for that?

    by MCVamp

  • Sad but true.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 9:09 a.m. CST

    Let the pain end!

    by Rob Jenson

    No more Transformers, for the love of god!

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 9:13 a.m. CST

    Also, as much as I'd like to focus to be on the robots . . .

    by Rob Jenson

    . . . Bay's robots are almost painful to look at. There's just too many parts. Looking at those bastards for the whole movie would be an exercise in masochism. But then so would watching it in any case. Hire some fucking writers, Bay! And . . . well, just stop being yourself. Sigh. Like with George Lucas, I will never pay to see another Bay film. Unlike that case, I will never do it because he just really sucks and always has, and his excuse for filmmaking has tainted the industry as a whole.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 9:13 a.m. CST

    TF3 was pretty dope

    by Autodidact

    My favourite part was the shots of Megatron out in the desert looking like a devil or something.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 9:18 a.m. CST

    Michael Bay is a porn director making non-porn movies

    by Mr. Pricklepants

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 9:20 a.m. CST

    Looks like I'll never see a live-action TF movie that

    by Bedknobs and Boomsticks

    isn't shit. Oh, well, there are the comics, and the upcoming Transformers: Fall of Cybertron to look forward to (War for Cybertron was what these movies should've been).

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 9:21 a.m. CST

    We ought to applaud Transformers it's true

    by SiouxCitySarsaparilla

    This franchise has single handedly taken Michael Bay out of circulation for the best part of a decade. Check his IMDB page. Since 2005 if you wanted to avoid Michael Bay all you had to do is not watch Transformers. He's directed nothing else. If he's doing number four there's an outside chance he might go ten years making nothing but Transformers films. Amazing.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 9:21 a.m. CST

    @banned_of_brothers I haven't seen TF2 but

    by Bedknobs and Boomsticks

    if you were able to get through Rise of Cobra but not TF2, then it must be completely unspeakably horrid.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 9:23 a.m. CST

    THE focus

    by Rob Jenson

    you know what I meant

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 9:35 a.m. CST

    siouxcitysarsaparilla

    by Rob Jenson

    I agree in theory, but just think of all the money that will go into making Transfomers 4, money that could go into something actually good. Many somethings. And literally, ANYTHING would be better. But just think of all the Evil Deads and, hell, Casablancas you could make for the half a billion (well, close enough) dollars this abomination will cost.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 9:36 a.m. CST

    melonman

    by AsimovLives

    I love Bruce Willis in good movies. Armageddon is not one of them. If i want to see a good Sf movie staring Bruce Willis made in the 1990s, i watch TWELVE MONKEYS again. I have a saying: an actor alone do not a good movie make. Armageddon is a posterboy of that idea because the movie is filled with lots of good actors and it's still a retard piece of shit. I don't have guilty pleasures because i'm quite secure and certain of the movies i love, even if they include such wacky gems as LIFEFORCE and ZARDOZ. I feel no guilty in loving those because i can defend my love for them instead of doing a mere shrug.

  • It's funny how slimeballs always ignore the hundreds of TF stories to downplay the storytelling potential.

  • Shalkespeare made populist entertaiment, which at the time was the theater. Back then theater was considered lowbrrw entertaiment. Tjherefore, Shakespeare's plays of his time hwere opulist entetaiment made for commercial reasons. They were the day's blockbusters. They were plays filled with intrigue, drama, comedy, fights, action, battles, epic storytelling, tales of ghosts and murder, they have everything that today we would consider essencial elements of the modern blockbuster. The difference is that, unlike Michael Bay, Shakespeare actually took his job seriously, he proud himself of his work, and he actually wanted his public feel they had their ticket money justified. And he was a genuinely intelligent, cultured, educated and talent man, something Bay is not, to put it mildly.

  • This fallacy is better represented by using a metaphor. Do people nee to be car engineers or civil construction workers to jonow if a car or a house is well build and well made? Do i need to be an expert on those areas to determine if a car is a piece of shit or if it rains inside the house? I do not, do I? Same thing for movies. So you lazerbrains who come up with yet again your stupid pseudo-argument in defense of hackfuckasses like Mr Bay with the old "you couldn't do any better", you better let it not even pass your fingers, because that bullshit has been debunked DECADES ALREADY. It has as much validity in movie criticism as frenology has with psychiatry.

  • Something that none of Bay's movies have never been able to achieve.

  • ... those movies then should be somebody maiing a homevideo of him breaking those toys in his garden and save a lot of people all those millions and millions of dollars gone to waste who should had been used by a talent filmmaker who actuallyknows what the hell he is doing. Many thik that the Bay's TRASHFUCKMERS movies are sucessful because of the Bay's turn-to-shit magic touch.Ii say those movies could had been even more sucessful if other more talented and better filmmaker had made them. Those movies are sucessful DESPITE Bay, and they would had been even more sucessful if he hadn't made them.

  • ... those movies then should be somebody maiing a homevideo of him breaking those toys in his garden and save a lot of people all those millions and millions of dollars gone to waste who should had been used by a talent filmmaker who actuallyknows what the hell he is doing. Many think that the Bay's TRASHFUCKMERS movies are sucessful because of the Bay's turn-to-shit magic touch.Ii say those movies could had been even more sucessful if other more talented and better filmmaker had made them. Those movies are sucessful DESPITE Bay, and they would had been even more sucessful if he hadn't made them.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 9:55 a.m. CST

    asimovlives

    by Rob Jenson

    Agreed. And I would add that Bay's success is just a symptom, or even the epitome, of the general dumbing-down of American culture (and the world's, apparently, judging from BO) and our general lowered expectations. While Peter Jackson's LOTR was a positive force on the industry and course-corrected Hollywood in a large way (Nolan's Batman being a direct result, I think, for example), Bay is a cancer and a plague on the industry and our culture (and the world's) in general. I know that sounds ridiculously dire, even absurb, but it is . . . sadly . . . very true imho.

  • Still, i think that Bay should had been contained in a franchise with he had already fuck up and had no chance of fucking up something with a promise, like the Transformers saga. Since his Pearl Harbor debacle, Bay should be reduced and only allowed to make Bay Boys sequels until the day he eirher dies from cocaine overdose or finally grow a conscience and give up making movies altogether.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 10:05 a.m. CST

    banned_of_brothers

    by AsimovLives

    We think pretty alike in regard to Bay's TRASHFUCKMERS' movies (see how much respect, or lack of, i have for them). I actually mannaged to watch the seconbd movie til the end, but there was mitigating factors: i didn't watched it in a theater but in a pirate copy. The sound and image quality was quite bad, and that actually helped. The muffled sounds and the grainy slight out of focus and off-composition image helped make the movie slightly more easy to endure. The stupidity of the movie was still there, but the bad image and sound distracted enoguh from the usual Bayism dumbass aestetics, if you know what i mean. I'm still laughing at the travel rom Gize to Petra and back in one afternoon and the Egypcian-Jordan Border, though. Bay refuses to acknowledge the existence of the state of Israel, it seems. Or general distances, for that matter.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 10:08 a.m. CST

    Bad Boys 3

    by darshn22

    Who the hell is holding this up??? Bay, Smith, and Lawrence have all said they want to do another one. Why do we have 4 Transformers movies before we get one more Bad Boys.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 10:30 a.m. CST

    Bay is not the sole reason to blame for dumbing everything down...

    by ZodNotGod

    Video games share most of the blame. Stifles creativity, imagination and patience. Fuels those who think they have ADD, makes them into blobby, garbage eating whimps, but I digress. new cast, new everything sounds good. lets hope for more Robot fu, no job searching montage and lets scale down on the robots face designs, they are too busy, too many whirring parts.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 10:32 a.m. CST

    THe dumbing down should go to our politicans...

    by ZodNotGod

    who engage in class warfare and other cheap, pathetic tactics making success look like a bad thing. If the dummies don't come to you, you go to the dummies.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 10:33 a.m. CST

    Bad Boys 3 in the same vein as part 2...

    by ZodNotGod

    Will redeem Bay's past mistakes.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 10:38 a.m. CST

    Why are you shocked by this?

    by TDH1138

    Seriously. Those movies have made a shitload of money. If I was a studio exec at Paramount, I'd try and keep Bay too. For good or bad, he gets asses in the seats. Leave your brain at the door and everything will be ok. OH.. and lastly... IT'S A FILM SERIES BASED ON A FUCKING TOY!!! GET THE FUCK OVER IT!!!

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 10:38 a.m. CST

    Bay is the sole reason the movies are shitty

    by Nerd Rage

    He has the power to make the films more interesting and he goes for the bottom feeders because he's a intellectually lazy, comic hating, audience hating, con artist.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 10:43 a.m. CST

    tdh1138

    by Rob Jenson

    Again the not-everything-has-to-be-Shakespeare argument. See asimovlives above, and my addition. Entertainment should be entertaining. Transformers is not. Sure, it throws shit at the screen, and if that's all you need, it provides, but if you want a story that engages you and characters that you actually care about whether they live or die (Terminator, Star Wars OT, hell even Sommers' The Mummy, if on a lower level, but just to show you I'm not requiring things to be Shakespeare -- they all fulfill this).

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 10:49 a.m. CST

    Pathetic

    by Suskis

    Reading that something in Transformer 3 was good makes me lose any faith in this site. The whole Transformers saga is a pile of crap and the last one was the worst of them all. Deus Ex Machina every 5 minutes to save the horrid plot...

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 10:50 a.m. CST

    bedknobs_and_boomsticks

    by Stalkeye

    The major difference between TF2 and Rise of Cobra, is that Sommers did not conjure racial catcaritures that would come off very offensive to a certain ethinicity. When you write characters based on a Toyline and syndicated animated series as racail lampoons, then there's something seriously wrong with you. After all, there are millions if not thousands of kids that have seen this movie and what fucked up impression would it leave on their minds? There's a difference between Un PC humor in raunchy comedies and comic/cartoon based films. GIJoe did suck as well, but it didnt go to the extreme of bad taste. Orci and Kuntzman should be banned from writing altogether.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 10:55 a.m. CST

    last 45min of 3rd movie SUCKED!

    by sportsguy88

    I am from Chicago, and the movie sucked INCLUDING the last 45 minutes. It took you completely out of the "Transformers" world and put you in the "Matrix" world. Blowing things up BIGGER and destroying buildings does not equate good or better. PFFT! How much is this site getting paid to suck up to the crap you suck up to. This site used to be interesting and cool to visit, not any more!

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 10:55 a.m. CST

    I don't blame Orci and Kurtzman

    by Rob Jenson

    If nothing else, Star Trek was tight and fast and had a recognizable structure and likeable characters (well, I still don't cotton to newKirk, but that's a separete matter). No, I have a feeling the Bay contributed heavily to the storymaking decisions on Transformers.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 11 a.m. CST

    Oh I forgot the biggest fucking bullshit in the whole movie

    by Jaster Mareel

    That Patrick Dempsey fuckstick is beating the shit out of Shia....and a fucking NEWSPAPER FLIES IN HIS FACE so Shia can get the drop on him. I mean Jesus fucking christ they're not even trying anymore at that point!

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 11:11 a.m. CST

    The whole "It's a movie series based on a toy line" defense.

    by hank henshaw

    That basically makes everything impossible to judge or critique unless it's based on a renowned novel, or it's an original screenplay. It makes acceptable if Fantastic Four, Superman Returns, Punisher, etc. suck: "it's based on a fucking funny book" Who cares if 3 out of 4 of the Pirates of the Caribbean movies are horrible? "it's based on a fucking theme park ride" GIJoe, Smurfs, Yogi, Chipmunks, Masters of the Universe? "based on fucking cartoons!" (yeah, GIJoe and MOTU were toys first) Mario Bros, Tomb Raider, Resident Evil? "Fucking Video games!" There's no reason these movies shouldn't have tried to rise above their original source material, except studios pandering to the lowest common denominator for a quick cash grab.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 11:28 a.m. CST

    As for Megatron in the desert

    by Jaster Mareel

    How the fuck did he get out there? I don't recall the ending of the swecond one but I'm pretty sure it wasn't Megatron wandering around in the desert. Also, why is he wearing a potato sack cape? Why doesn't he just turn into a jet and fly the fuck outta there anyway?

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 11:41 a.m. CST

    bob1000

    by AsimovLives

    Unfortunatly, i didn't found a single sympathetic character in Abrams Trek. Nice cool actors, yes, symapthetic characters, no, nnot a sigle one of them. I was actually rooting for the vilalin to kill them all, and that's a very weak poor villain, mind you, a cheap shallow knock off of khan. We should blame Orci and Kurtzman for the debacle that is Trashfuckmers 2 as much we blame Michael Bay. And all the other people involved with the movie and could had put a break to Bay's excesses but didn't, and this includes young Mr Spielberg. The Trashfuckmers' movies are the kind of movies where everybody involved in it came out looking like assholes. Funny enough, it was Megan Fox the only one smart enough to notice it and jumped ship before the dammage was total. Who knew she could be that smart?

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 11:42 a.m. CST

    Michael Bay's best work: The "Aaron Burr" milk commercial

    by StanGrossman

    He should "reboot" that one.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 11:42 a.m. CST

    Agreed henshaw. Mr. Hanky is based on a piece of shit.

    by welcometothepartypal

    And that fucker is awesome! The toy line defense is such bull shit.

  • Why nnot extend that to books as well? What you expect from a movie based on a book? It's just a stupid thing made of dead trees, anyway, why should you expect it to be good? Hitchcock had a great saying: it's easier to make a good movie out of a bad book then a good movie out of a good book. Because by adapting a bad book, you could on ly go up, you could always improved. This fuckasses who make this Trasfuckmer type movies are not even making that effort! It takes a special kind of lack of talent to disprove a pearl of wisdom from Hitchcock.

  • Why nnot extend that to books as well? What you expect from a movie based on a book? It's just a stupid thing made of dead trees, anyway, why should you expect it to be good? Hitchcock had a great saying: it's easier to make a good movie out of a bad book then a good movie out of a good book. Because by adapting a bad book, you could on ly go up, you could always improved. This fuckasses who make this Trasfuckmer type movies are not even making that effort! It takes a special kind of lack of talent to disprove a pearl of wisdom from Hitchcock.

  • It's just all kinds of wrong!

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 11:48 a.m. CST

    Michael Bay > Michael Ninn

    by aphextwin

    Bay would, no, should have been the BEST adult Director in the Industry

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 12:13 p.m. CST

    Transformers one RULED!

    by Boborci

    We gave birth to a giant entertaining franchise. It was genius! A milestone in cinema and art! A giant contribution to our culture! Apology accepted!

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 12:40 p.m. CST

    I liked "What the what?!?" but lost interest soon after.

    by Crumb

    Much like these lame-ass turds of what can only be loosely described as movies.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 12:53 p.m. CST

    sn't the new battleshit movie transformers 4?i

    by BrooklynBred

    Used to wish for a thundercats movie especially after seeing Vin Diesel as Panthro and Brad as Lion O but hollywood would f it up.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 12:57 p.m. CST

    PLEASE NO MORE!

    by Wcwlkr

    I was done after the first one, but my curiousity got to watch the EYE-RAPING Sequel. So I refuse to give 3 a milli-second of my time, despite the praised spectacle of the last act.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 12:59 p.m. CST

    boborci, the franchise already existed. The toys, hello?

    by AsimovLives

    You guys just made subpar movies that in the right hands would had been so much better... and even more profitable.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 1:03 p.m. CST

    let's hope a shorter movie is part of the "reboot"

    by Lord Elric

    I ran an experiment with the first two,and after fast forwarding through all of the stuff that dragged them down, like the terrible jokes and scenes that went on with little bearing on the story, I got two films that ran about 105-108 minutes or so. And they were excellent. Tight, lots of action, and very focused. Just thought I'd put that out...

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 1:13 p.m. CST

    "Reboot" or "Retard"?

    by Pixeldriver

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 1:16 p.m. CST

    I'm not stooping and calling Bay names....

    by ZodNotGod

    I'm not a fan though of his crappy camera movements and shoddy editing. He brings way too much bloat to the stories. Get a good story/film editor and we might have something. I'm thinkng, if you cut some of the excess out the first two, (I dug the first flick).

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 1:52 p.m. CST

    Should be Peter Jackson!!! Nuts but could work!

    by steve lee

    Think about the character and fleshing out he could bring to each of the big metal lunks, that they so sorely lack at present!! Mo-capped serkis optional, ha!

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 1:55 p.m. CST

    potatochipatron

    by steve lee

    I guess because he was knackered up, prime left him for dead, didnt finish the job (naughty) still, a potato sack is prob. least of this flix' problems, doncha think?

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 2:03 p.m. CST

    asimov: I actually watched LIFEFORCE again recently

    by melonman

    Was kind of amazed at how snappy and fast-paced it felt compared to more modern over-extended movies. And the effects are still brilliant. Makes a great triple bill with QUATERMASS AND THE PIT and THE DEVIL RIDES OUT.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 2:27 p.m. CST

    Bring back the Jigga-bots!

    by WarrenSmooth

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 2:39 p.m. CST

    melonman

    by AsimovLives

    yeah, the movie does move at a brisk pace, but as far i'm concerned, never loses clarity. The movie is weird becuaue the story is weird, not because the filmmaking fucked up. And of course, there is Mathilda May naked in her prime of youth. She alone is better cinematic entertaoment then all the CGI that Michael Bay can thrown onscreeen. The thing about May's nakedness in LIFEFORCE is that even though it's a blatant case of fanservice for the audiences, it actually makes sense in story. The alien already is using that body as if it's a suit, from the alien perspective, she is not naked. So why would she shy away from going around in the butt? She still has superpowers, it's lot as if some layers of clothing would give her any added protection at all. In fact, she fucking around with the security guards and blasting her way out of the building even works better with her naked because it just shows how powerful she is, and how all it's just a little effort to her. It plays to her demonstratioon of power.

  • For a guy who is so obsessed with super-fast cutting to the point it became his trademark, he suremakes over-bloated movies that are longer then they had any right to be. How can anybody cuts his movies so fast and yet still make them so damn long? How can that fucking be? Bay is a posterboy of a filmmaker who needlessly bloats his movies for thge sake of his own ego. So many directors of the art-house crowd are accused of self-indulgence in his movies. But michael Bay wins them all. there is no more slef-indulgent filmmaker in the whole of Hollywood then Bay .And he does it all for the wrong reasons. It's not that he has any statements to make or a message to deliver, so there is absoliutly no excuse for why his fucking movies are so damn long. I mean, the shortest movie he ever made is his first, BAD BOYS, and that sucker is more then two hours long! All his other movies are even longer. WTF!!! I love long movies... when there is an actual reason for that. there's no reason whatsoever why any of the Michael Bay's movies should be longer then 90 minutes expect his fucking ego.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 3 p.m. CST

    Transformers: The Ghost of Starscream

    by GQSioux

    hehehe. Or...RISE OF THE DINOBOTS :)

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 3:36 p.m. CST

    Trashfuckmers 4: The Raise Of An Even Bigger Budget.

    by AsimovLives

    I can't wait for the day one of those bloated Mickey Bay's movies flops hard. It is the only lesson this cunt will ever learn.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 3:41 p.m. CST

    boborci, I'm sure you sleep like a baby

    by Mugato5150

    And so do I, but I just work on the technical end. You have to pretend to be an artist. So that's exceptionally exceptional. How did you do it anyway?

  • Seriously, all they do is knock down a bunch of buildings. THAT was the climax. Huge robots from across the galaxy ...knocking down buildings. Hundreds of millions of dollars spent and received. Personally, I would prefer Bay just direct a sexy softcore movie starring Victoria Secret models. Highest grossing film of all time.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 3:56 p.m. CST

    Regarding charachters in Trek 4

    by Rob Jenson

    I actually liked Spock -- provided, of course, he wasn't "realSpock"; no one can really do Spock except Nimoy -- but as a SpockB I thought he was relatable and interesting. NewKirk . . . wweeeelllll . . . not so much. My god, why is modern Hollywood so allergic to a straight action man these days? Peter Jackson's fallen prey to this too: see Adrian Brody in newKONG, versus the same character in realKONG.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 3:58 p.m. CST

    TrekJJ, excuse me

    by Rob Jenson

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 4 p.m. CST

    Another TF-movie with Bay?

    by Sanyi

    Fuck it. Fuck it all. I am done with this shit. The third one was boring, too long and mind-numbing. Same goes to the other two.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 4:02 p.m. CST

    anyway you guys nailed Trek

    by alexander

  • I'd probably believe that as well.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 4:03 p.m. CST

    Hadnt thought about that, but seems like a fair comment

    by Boborci

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 4:08 p.m. CST

    @Asi

    by MrLongbaugh

    I just got off the phone with Mike and I scored you two tickets to the world premier. Pack your bags dude....you've won the lottery!!!

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 4:09 p.m. CST

    My TF4 prediction...no matter who writes or directs it...

    by conspiracy

    1.3B Total Gross... Say what you will...kids fucking love these films. I think our problem is we are watching them through 30-50yr old eyes...not 8-18. If I'm a 13yr old dude whats not too like...shit blowing up, giant fucking robots, hot chicks with their tits and asses hanging out. These just aren't for me...

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 4:10 p.m. CST

    Although put me down for a double helping of Tits and Ass...

    by conspiracy

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 4:13 p.m. CST

    I'm all for it. Please include Unicron

    by Autodidact

    Would be kewl k thx bai.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 5:14 p.m. CST

    Optimus...do you...ya know...ever get lonely?

    by conspiracy

    And worst of all Prime...none of them...None...not even Bumblebee...as open minded and youthful as he is would understand...I wish....I wish.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 5:15 p.m. CST

    FUCKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by conspiracy

    I just wrote a Brokeback Transformers scene and it is FUCKING GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOD DAMN IT!

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 5:43 p.m. CST

    TO "YOURSTEPDADDY": Thanks...

    by jorson28

    Though I'm not sure if the "sea of negativity" and attempts to tell old jokes and make people feel stupid is a reference to my particular post or to the Talkback board, in general. I WAS going to assume the former, but that would have made ME look stupid (if I don't already). I guess I do feel stupid, though, because I can't rightfully be FOR discussion of movies (which I feel that I am) and be quite so intolerant. I can, however, try to make sense of the discussion and of certain phrases used in an effort to advance my own limited understanding. As for any last words about the Transformers franchise, I could really care less. I never got around to seeing any of the films in the theaters, so that probably colors my perception - but besides not having the nostalgia of others (only the familiarity of which I already spoke), I found the first one mildly entertaining and the next two to be overly-long without really offering anything new to whatever passed as what should have been the trilogy's ongoing story. The attempted mentor-student dynamic between Optimus and Sentinel Prime in the last movie was kind of fun to watch, but besides the fact that it rips off shades of Star Wars and half-dozen other movies (particularly those with martial arts), it's something that would have been much more effective had it been set-up in the first movie. That it wasn't is understadable given different writer(s) and the fact that these films are SO expensive that I doubt Paramount or Dreamworks wanted to bet too heavily on being able to make three films successful. However, it doesn't change my opinion.

  • A scene right out of Conan The Barbarian. To contemplate Star Trek's sorroful destiny and the hands of those guys in the tree of woe.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 5:48 p.m. CST

    conspiracy

    by AsimovLives

    if i was a 13 years old boy i would still hate the fucking out of Bay's TRASHFUCKMERS movies. Age has nothing to do with liking those piece of shit movies. The age excuse for liking those movies is bullshit.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 6:10 p.m. CST

    Transformers one was as shitty as the rest.

    by Bedknobs and Boomsticks

    The TF fans who supported these horrid movies are suffering from Stockholm Syndrome.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 6:13 p.m. CST

    To Asimovlives + Speculation on the Making of a Bay Movie

    by jorson28

    You're fundamentally right about everything... assuming, of course, that William Shakespeare was an actual, individual person that wrote the plays credited to him. The Bard may have been real, but there's plenty of people questioning the source or sources of some of Shakespeare's works, especially since some are so varied and different. I'm not saying for sure that Shakespeare didn't exist as the playwright we think of, just that questions abound. Either way, you make good points. I'd only add that movies can show things that the plays of Shakespeare's day could not, which means that modern audiences expect things that the "masses" attending the Bard could not have even dreamed of seeing let alone expected to see, like, well... robots. As metaphors, yes, perhaps they could be used more effectively, but in some ways, this is a totally different ballgame, and not just where the Transformers movies are concerned but, indeed, where most of today's MOVIE blockbusters are concerned. On another topic, I liked that someone asked (perhaps jokingly) how a Michael Bay film is made. Much as I hate to say this, they're probably made in a way similar to the way Lucas makes his films, only with much shorter schedules. By that, I mean that the logistics probably come BEFORE the script - the complete opposite of the way most independent films are made, in which the budget is based on the script, not vice-versa. It has its drawbacks, but if the money is already there, it has real advantages, too, as well as some logic. Anyway, these really are "properties" for the studios, and as such, they have certain elements inherent to them - elements they know they MUST have and must use. Also, as I hinted at before, these movies' producers tend to "back into" their budgets. Again, so much money is available and, more than that, probably ALLOCATED FOR ONE OR MORE OF THESE KINDS OF FILMS PER YEAR - all with similar budgets, that they start out by ballparking the final tally based upon how much they've spent in the past, how much the demographics tell them they can expect to make in return (best, most likely and worst-case scenario) and, if it's a sequel, how much more they may or may not want to spend on actors, effects, etc. A release date is usually set for these films early in pre-production, so they kind of work backwards to fill in the pieces - deduct from what they KNOW they can spend the elements that they already have and/or MUST have - something much easier to do if you have the same director, which usually means the same crew if not the same writer(s) - then figure out how or whether or not they can fit the fees for this familiar face, that popular actor, this special effect or action sequence, etc., into the tally they started out working with. I'm sure, with Bay, the studios probably have the filmmaker of their dreams because he's at least a safe bet every time he makes a certain type of film, at least with a certain, yet very big built-in audience. He's also someone that allegedly runs his sets like a military boot camp - very disciplined, but also very precise and predictable, probably never going over-budget without having the blessing of someone on the inside BEFORE it's even an issue and knowing how to use his actors and stunt doubles to where all but one are almost entirely expendable (like a LaBouf in TRANSFORMERS or a Smith or Willis in a BAD BOYS or ARMAGEDDON) . And yes, as I think the same person pointed out, I wouldn't be a bit surprised if Bay does quite a bit of script "tweaking," particularly on-set - that is, to the extent that they actually have A script - especially considering how quickly the last Transformers movie was greenlit, written and produced. These movies, particularly the last one, really feel like they could just be a mish-mash of scenes from other movie scripts with some names and settings changed to fit into a new, yet very basic, bare-bones context. They probably even recycle storyboards for certain sequences.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 6:14 p.m. CST

    You'd think a huge payday + neverending respect from the fans

    by Bedknobs and Boomsticks

    would've been a greater incentive than just the payday. But I must be overestimating their sense of self-worth. Well, they are quietly hoping everyone forgets Cowboys and Aliens.

  • Look...on Transformers I"m in your corner for the most part...I'm not saying they aren't shit...I'm not saying age is an excuse; but the fact is Kids fucking love these films....$2.6 Billion in box office for the franchise proves that SOMEONE likes them. At that kind of ROI...you aren't going to mess with the recipe too much from film to film...you go with what succeeded the first time...especially given the production costs. It isn't Filet Mignon, it sure as fuck isn't Art, but it IS Business...and a damned profitable and successful one at that.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 6:20 p.m. CST

    so the flames on optimus will continue to burn

    by Carven

    For fuck's sake, you all KNEW this was coming in some way, shape, or form. Michael Bay is a money-maker, not a film-maker. I am at a loss for words at how to describe how disappointed I am at Hollywood for continuing to make such hot piles of shit instead of respectable pieces of art. Sure explosions, robot violence, hot chicks with pouting faces with all kinds of insanity going in super slow motion in the background can be fun, but all it will ever amount to is by-the-book movie making just to make a bajillion dollars for the corporations that own these properties. Bay can come back, absolutely...as the CINEMATOGRAPHER, the guy has a wicked sense of visuals...but he is no story maker! Get a fucking director who respects his/her audience and expects them to follow along and think about the plot, not just want to turn off their brain's higher functions and go for a thrill ride.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 7:20 p.m. CST

    = It was genius! =

    by KilliK

    IT WAS SHIT!

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 8:01 p.m. CST

    heh

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    I'm a pretty big Michael Bay defender, I think Transformers 1 is highly underrated. 2 is horrible, of course. 3 is overrated. Yeah the end is brilliant but the first half is retarded. It makes sense to bring Bey back, but at this point I gotta say Meh.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 8:02 p.m. CST

    jorson28

    by AsimovLives

    Of course Shakespeare was real! You are not giving any credence to that stupid ass bullshit movie made by Roland Emmerich, are you? the "shakespeare was a fake" bullshit was invented by noblemen in the 19th century who had sore elbows that a commoner could had create such magnificent literature. Basically, all notions that shakespeare didn't existed or didn't wrote his plays is total fucking bullshit. Roland fucking Emmerich can kiss my ass! My whole argument was the stupid notiuon that a blockbuster movie is the anthetisis of a shakespeare play, when in fact his lays there the time's blockbusters. they were populist works designed for the consuption of the hoi polloi. but as a true creative person, just becasue his public was lowbrow doesn't mean his work has to be so so. he provided his public with stories of with imagination, wit and adventure, and good drama and/or comedy. me made his paycheck worthy. something that hackfucks like Bay do not understand the concept of. shakespeare plays as the blockbusters of the day and are it's today's equivalent has nothing to do with the fqct modern day movies have CGI and fucking robots fighting each other. that's not the point, it's not the detail that matters but the general basis for the movies and his plays at the time. they are mass entertaiment designed for a broad audience. only Shakespeare didn't treated his audiences as complete fucking morons. it's not the robots and the CGI that's the difference, but the atitude from the creators.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 8:13 p.m. CST

    conspiracy

    by AsimovLives

    I don't know one guy under 18 who doesn't fucking love them.

  • that notion thaT DUMBASS MICKEY BAYASS MOVIES ARE NEDED OR NECESSARY IS TOTAL FUCKING BULSLHIT SHIT OUT BY PEOPLE DSPERATE TO PERPECTUATE THEIR STATUS QUO IN THE FILM INDUSTRY. sorry for the caps, but they represent my revolt to that notion. There's filmmakers out there who now prove,and have proved in the past that if you make competent and even smart movies, you can rip rich rewards at the box office. Christopher Nolan's career is a whole big example of how that is true, and his career is also a demolition of the notion that movies need to be dumbed down to be profitable, acessible to audiences and teens in particular. movies don't need to be dumbed down to be popular. those who make dumbed down movies do them because that's the only level of intellifence they can achieve. and the rest is just bulshit excuses to justify their limitations. bullshiter fuckasses like bay and jarjar abrams and that accursed bunch of untalented fuckass who think their lack of talent mirrors the whole world.

  • His movies look like shit. prettified shit that still looks like shit. the fuckass has the most deturped misguided sense of what looks good onscreen i ever seen in a filmmaker. his visual bullshit fails to impress me all the time. there are very good visual oriented directors working today. Bay is not one of them.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 8:32 p.m. CST

    Michael Bay is replaceable and expendable

    by quintana007

    just look at Con Air... everyone can do that shit

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 8:34 p.m. CST

    asimov

    by NotEnoughBiehn

    it's from the same place where Hack Snyder is considered to be a good visualist.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 9:13 p.m. CST

    if only James Cameron could direct every action movie

    by Carven

    Can we all agree that at least James Cameron has the aesthetic style that we fans ejaculate over? Unfortunately, directors like J.C., Kubrick, and Spielberg who have well rounded filmmaking skills are far too few in this oversaturated environment, sometimes they come once in a lifetime. but my real point was that Michael Bay movies are driven by their visuals, much like how George Lucas has totally lost all his magic because he's spent the last few decades just trying to push the visual elements/CGI of film to the limit. Now we have movies that amount to be nothing but prostitutes; they're great to fuck with, but leave your wallets thinner, feeling dirty, and shallow. You can 'like' these movies, but never 'love' them.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 10:17 p.m. CST

    DAMN YOU MICHAEL BAY

    by Damnyou

    DAMN YOU MICHAEL BAY

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 10:58 p.m. CST

    While 2 1/2 hours of 3D is pushing it

    by Mace Tofu

    I watched the third one 3 times, Once in a theater, Once on my 3D TV and another time on my iPod. what can I say, I'm a sucker for anything with the military blowing stuff up. If the next one is more military blowing stuff up with no kid around I'll be there. I do think they dropped the ball by not having Sam hear "I got the touch" on the car radio during one of the comedy scenes.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 11:01 p.m. CST

    Brad Bird + Simon Furman = Heaven

    by Relugus

    The Ultra Magnus vs Galvatron fight in the UK Transformers comic is one of the most exhilarating action set-pieces ever to grace a comic book. Geoff Senior totally hands Bay his ass in the action department. Bay has given whole new meaning to the words "Target 2006". Target 2006 and stop Bayformers. Any Transformers reboot needs to remove Bay and must have Furman on board.

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 11:22 p.m. CST

    Nobody cares about human co-stars

    by MatchesMalone

    They can put Shia, Megan Fox, whoever they want none of that matters, people will not go to watch Transformers to see Fucking shia or Megan fox regardless of how hot she is. Im in that theater to see fucking robots beating other robots and turning into trucks, as far as the public knows Transformers 4 could co-star Pee Wee Herman and be a box office smash. Im happy they will go the reboot route, minimize the human cast and just make a kickass transformers movie..starring you guessed the Transformers.. Screw the humans, hell make it in Cybertron

  • Feb. 14, 2012, 11:25 p.m. CST

    Almost hired Bird instead of Bay.

    by Boborci

  • The fact is a great many people liked these films just fine. Now you can bitch all you want that they are not smart...that they suck...that they could be better. All True. Hell...McDonalds makes a Shitty hamburger.... But PEOPLE love them... That isn't bad business...that is giving people what they want...which is what this, or any other business, is all about.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 1:34 a.m. CST

    Leave Bay alone...

    by Mike Kosic

    All I know is that he: a) Brought a 3D Transformers live action movie to screen - brought a tear to my eye after dreaming of that day for 25 years (and the last time I cried at a movie was during Bill Pullman's speech in ID4 - yeh yeh, go ahead and laugh) b) Discovered one of the hottest pieces of ass in Hollywood in years. All I'm saying is that Kleenex should have hired Megan Fox as a spokesmodel after Transformers came out.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 4:51 a.m. CST

    conspiracy

    by AsimovLives

    i actually don't think people really love this Trashfuckmers movies. they might say that for the lack of a beter term. but do you believe there will be a future generation of filmmakers who are kids today who one day will say it was because they wateched those Bay's Trashfuckmers movies that they wanted to become filmmakers? that a great filmmaker one day will rise from those ranks? bullshit! the hell they will. they don't love this movies they just liked the cheap thrills delivered by over-hyped marketing, over-saturated bad editing and loads of CGi fanciry. it's not really love, it's just lack of vocabulary.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 4:55 a.m. CST

    by mikekosic: "Leave Bay alone". No, Bay should leave us alone.

    by AsimovLives

    he should fuck up and never come back, that's what he should. and not just us the audiences but all the professionals who work in movies in hollywood, because he's a real pest and nightmare to work with. and unlike Mr Cameron, he has no vision nor real talent to show for and compensate for his assholeness. Anybody could make a real life version of a Tranformers movie. not many could do it properly. Bay made it nextremely rerribly. he was the wrong man for the job. bjut he is the wrong man for any film job, anyway. he's a cancer of modern cinema.

  • You guys had the right man for the job, and instead you writed the wrong one? How more stupid can you guys get? And now that it is proved that Brad Bird is very good at directing live action movies as well, you idiots shoud be punishing yourselves with boards with nails and beat the shit out of your own asses as contritions. you guys fucking owe the transformers fans bigime. and it was just such a stupid decision not to hire Bird and go with Bay instead. What the fuck possesses you to do such a stupid decision? That was so bloody stupid it goes on retard territory. Damn, that was stupid like hell! Stupid, stupid, stupid! Damn stupid! How the hell you could have been so bloody foolish and clueless? How can that be possible? How could adults be this misguided and stupid? Bloody hell!! Jesus fucking christ nailed on a fucking cross, that was stupid!

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 5:06 a.m. CST

    quintana007

    by AsimovLives

    Good point about CON AIR, because many peope do think Michael Bay directed that one, when in fact it was Simon West who did it. And at least West made a movie i kinda liked, his remale of WHEN A STRANGER CALLS, which while it's not a great movie by any stretch of the imagination, and has quite a few anoying flaws, at least it show that West can adapt his style to the needs of a story. Something that fuckass Bay can't.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 5:07 a.m. CST

    notenoughbiehn

    by AsimovLives

    I heard you.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 5:18 a.m. CST

    matchesmalone

    by AsimovLives

    Yeah. Truly, who went to watch the Bay's TRASHFUCKMERS movies because of the human characters? It was the robots who sold the movies, pure ans simple. Everybody come back to this trashy fucking movies in gthe hopes that the next one would feature more robot action and less humans, and always they were conned. The fucking anoying useless humans shits got even bigger on the screentime with each movie. Say what you will about George Lucas, but he was wise enough to reduce Jar Jar Binks presence with each prequels made afterwards. And now he's making gredoo shot first again. Despite what the fanbotys say, at least he can man up to some of his mistakes. Bay never does that, never, ever. Bay has always been lying about the lessons learned and how the next Transformers moie will be better and more about the robots.And always it proves to be total bullshit. The fucker never learned a single lesson. in his, his movies are getting worst, stupidier, immature and childish. He's truly devolving to something worst then he started, which just defies all human imagination. It's unbelievalbe how worst he's getting, and yet there's still people who still suport his shit. Talk about cognitive dissonance! Bay lies about lessons learned, never learns the lesson, and makes the next movie even worst the the precedent. And always making more of the mistakes of previous movies and give those mistakes increasing screentime. Peoplemcould actually watch a movie about big robots fighting each other, IF THE FUCKING STORY WAS ANY GOOD! People can watch movies about talking animals and make them sucessful, swo they can about talking robots, if the filmmakers have any talent. Hell, 7 years ago one of the most sucussful movie at the box office was a documentary about fucking pinguins!!! Christ's sakes! Nothing is impossible in cinema, only for those who lack talent.

  • The one that's any good? If not, well then you can just keep Jesus and Conan the hell out of it, buddy, while you procrastinate from the task in hand.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 9:43 a.m. CST

    alan_grant_lives

    by AsimovLives

    I hired Ronald D. Moore to do that for me. He knows Star Trek.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 10:20 a.m. CST

    Re:asimov

    by Mike Kosic

    There's no doubt that Cameron or even Brad Bird would have taken Transformers to transcendent levels. However, Bay was the 3rd best man for the job and be did it as well as he could - a smash em up Robot movie and he didnt fck too much with the Transformers mythology. All i know is: ive never once been bored at a Bay movie. Even the crappy Island.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 11:34 a.m. CST

    mikekosic

    by AsimovLives

    Bay was the 3rd best man? in what way could that be? did all the other directors in the whole suddently died so that Bay could be considered a viable option? bay is the shittiest worst choice for whatever movie there can be made. fucker is now only good for making more bay boys shit movies, and even that is debatable.

  • I almost felt asleep watching the first trnaformers movie in the theater. i never fall asleep in a theater, never, no matter how much slow paced the movie is. A Bay movie did the impossible to me. it went beyond the imposwsible. that's how fucking boring his piece of shit fucking movies are to me. movie filled with uninteresting or downright unpleasant assholes, uninteresting stories told in incoherent badly thoughout plots edited at ramdom without ant notion of narrative continuity or clarification. the over-editing and abusive loud soudn effects only elevates what's wrong with the movie to whole new levels of awfulness and unendurability.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 1:57 p.m. CST

    I don't think he's coming back though Asimov

    by alexander

    Then why didn't do you did it, you stupid morons?

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 3:01 p.m. CST

    ahem...

    by alexander

    Then why didn't do you did it, you stupid morons?

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 3:24 p.m. CST

    Bay-vengers

    by Mike Kosic

    A hearty debate asimov. But admit this at least: wouldnt u rather see a Bay Avengers instead of a Whedon avengers? (based on firefly , lame blog posts,and his visually boring tv work). Bay is an asshole who loves action. His mivies are about assholes in action. Nothing more nothing less... So why hate on the man that got to pilfer Megan Fox?

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 4:09 p.m. CST

    MADRE DE DARTH!!!

    by Katherine Farias

    Dear world. Get rid of Michael Bay. Please. Love, Kathy!

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 4:57 p.m. CST

    mikekosic

    by AsimovLives

    that hardly is enough reason to have any respect for mickey bahy. a man of power mannages to force a nobody starlet to have sex with him with the promise of a career. that's a reason to respect anybody? if anything, it another reason to shit on the motherfucker. it's megan fox i actually gained some respect when, after enduring bay's bulslhit for two movies straight, told him to go fuck himself, career be damned. that i respect.

  • And if you do not listen, the hell with you.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 9:13 p.m. CST

    Spielberg chose the director

    by Relugus

    Orci and Kurtzman did not. A very, very cynical decision by Spielberg. Instead of choosing the man who was most suited to the project, he chose the man who would make dumbest and therefore the least risky movie. Bird would likely have focused much more on the Transformers (which I think Spielberg would have been against; the human focus of the movies is as much Spielberg's doing as Bay's IMHO).

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 11:20 p.m. CST

    Everybody now knows that Brad Bird would make 10x the TF movie Bay can.

    by Orbots Commander

    Bird proved he's the real deal with the last Mission: Impossible movie. And he'd probably direct a Transformers flick that was actually an all around good movie. Shocker, I know.

  • Feb. 15, 2012, 11:21 p.m. CST

    Then again, I wish Bird was directing the Superman flick....

    by Orbots Commander

    ...rather than Snyder, but, whaddya-gonna-do, right?

  • Feb. 17, 2012, 7:11 a.m. CST

    what the what?

    by alexander

    Post keep getting cut

  • Feb. 23, 2012, 11:14 a.m. CST

    Mr. Bay - here's your plot for TF4. You can thank me later

    by darthflagg

    Prologue – The Planet Cybertron. 65 Million Years Ago. We open with a massive battle that dwarfs anything seen in the previous films. Primitive Autobots and Decepticons (looking like their boxy cartoon versions) are wiped out by the thousands as they try and gain access to a heavily guarded ancient library before the other side. A renegade Autobot named GRIMLOCK and his commandos escape the library with a disk that supposedly contains information about the origin of their species. Both sides want the disk for different reasons, but Grimlock and his team decide to leave Cybertron rather than turn it over to the current PRIME. They flee in a superfast shuttle that takes them across the galaxy but they are pursued by a smaller Decepticon craft. Following a shootout in an asteroid belt near a familiar blue-green world, the Decepticon ship is destroyed, knocking loose a massive chunk of meteor. The Autobot ship and the meteor crash in what will become Mexico, while a smaller piece of the ship breaks off and lands further north. The massive impact sends up a cloud of dust that blocks out the sun and we hear distant dinosaur roars. The Planet Earth. Washinton D.C. Present Day. SPECIAL AGENT DELBERT FURMAN – tough, 40ish, Will Smith (or someone cheaper but equally charismatic) – wakes in his Spartan apartment. While he eats breakfast and dresses he watches a report on TV about troubled relations between the government and the Autobots. There are protests and people burn Autobot effigies in the street. A Senator calls for the Autobots to leave since the Decepticons have been defeated and their continued presence only puts Earth at threat. A commentator asks how we can trust OPTIMUS PRIME after he gave mass-murdering Decepticon MEGATRON a funeral more fitting for a hero, blasting his body off into deep space? Delbert turns off the TV, holsters his gun and goes to work. Portland, Oregon. A nearby volcano erupts, awakening something that has been buried under it since the time of the dinosaurs. Meanwhile, 12 yo DEL FURMAN is running from some bullies. They catch up to him and he stands up to them, even though they are bigger. But when they see the eruption the bullies forget about him. Del looks anxious. His older brother is working on a construction project there. That evening at dinner, “SPARKPLUG” FURMAN tells his fascinated younger sibling that the area around the volcano has been sealed off while they investigate a cave-in. Their single mother tells Sparky he’s not going back to work until it’s safe. After school the next day, Del decides to sneak into the site of the volcano. He rides his bike there and watches from afar when suddenly what looks like a metallic tyrannosaurus rex bursts out of the ground. It destroys the construction equipment in its path before escaping into the forest. Del decides to follow it. He eventually tracks it down. The T-Rex looks as if it is about to eat him before Del casually asks him what his name is. The T-Rex calms slightly and reveals his name is Grimlock. His speech is very primitive due to degradation of his circuits over millions of years. He says he is searching for something in the area around the volcano that will save his companions who came to Earth with him. Del says he will help Grimlock find it. Washington D.C. The military detect an Autobot homing beacon being sent out in Chicxulub, Mexico and assign Agent Furman to investigate. The Autobots, who have also detected the signal and believe it to be the legendary ship Grimlock and his team left in, ask to assist in the operation. Furman turns them down. He appears not to trust anyone. Portland. Del is letting Grimlock hide out in his barn. They play cops and robbers, with Del as the cop. He tells Grimlock that his dad, who he never sees, is a cop and he hopes to be one someday. When Del asks why Grimlock looks like a dinosaur if he’s a robot, Grimlock tells his origin. When their ship crashed on Earth Grimlock was thrown free from the impact. His companions were damaged beyond repair and he decided to seek out the disk they stole from their home of Cybertron in the hopes it would hold the key to reviving them. He changed his form to imitate a tyrannosaurus rex that he saw on his journey north so as not to attract attention from the indigenous population. He made it all the way to the volcano near where the rest of the ship crashed, but was buried alive in an earthquake before he could retrieve it. He remained underground in hibernation until the eruption awoke him 65 million years later. Grimlock cannot transfer back to his original robot mode, possibly because of being inactive for so long. Del says Grimlock should be called a Dinobot instead of an Autobot, and the name sticks. Del has to go to school and says goodbye, but Grimlock follows him. When the bullies attack again, Grimlock jumps out and roars at them, making the other boys run in terror. Del is grateful, but he is worried that his secret is out now. Antartica. The lone Decepticon still on Earth, SOUNDWAVE, is monitoring the Autobots when he intercepts a transmission about the search for the long lost Grimlock. He sends a message to the Decepticon commander on Cybertron, SCORPONOK, who reluctantly agrees to send a battalion to Earth through a makeshift space bridge to make sure they retrieve Grimlock and his commandos before the Autobots can harness their power. Soundwave worries that the Autobots working with the Earth military will be able to defeat the untested Decepticons, but Scorponok has a plan. Washington D.C. Agent Furman is visited by one of his staff, cute young redhead computer wiz JOSIE BELLER, who tells him she has uncovered signs of a Decepticon invasion. Intrigued by her skills, Furman asks her to accompany him on his mission. Portland. With Del’s help, Grimlock find the disk they took from Cybertron. He stores it in a compartment on his body and takes Del home. A local woman sees Del perched on Grimlock’s back as the Dinobot goes stomping by and panics. She whips the townsfolk into a frenzy and they come hunting for Grimlock. Del tries to tell them he’s not dangerous but they won’t listen. Grimlock is forced to flee from their sticks and bullets rather than harm them, but he destroys several cars and buildings in his anger. Del goes searching for him and meets the sinister MR. KEYS – a government agent who asks Del all kinds of questions about the “Oregon Dinosaur”. Del pretends to be clueless and gives Keys the slip. Cybertronian Decepticons arrive on Earth disguised as Autobots. They cause havoc at a drive-in in California, near the Mexican border. The Autobots, who were secretly en route to the location of the homing beacon, arrive to stop the Deceps, but the police and military fire on them, unable to distinguish them from the fake Autobots. Meanwhile, Furman arrives in Chicxulub and meets with a government division even more secret than his own. They have found the crash site and are in the process of digging up the ship. Furman is told that one of the robots that was in the ship is already in government custody. He looks completely shocked. Portland. Del’s mom tells him they are moving because of the controversy and Del tracks down Grimlock to say goodbye. He finds him hiding out and promises to come back and see him one day. Grimlock, running low on fuel, disappears into the woods, only to be captured by Mr. Keys and his team, who had been following Del. A helpless Del watchs in horror as Grimlock is taken away. We realise that these events are taking place in 1984 and Del and Agent Furman are the same person. Back in the present, Furman is taken to a nearby installation and sees an imprisoned Grimlock looking like a shadow of his former self. They have been keeping him all this time to learn about the Transformers and also as "insurance". Furman's stiff resolve finally breaks and when Jessie questions him about this sudden display of emotion, he reveals that he discovered Grimlock, 28 years ago. He has been secretly searching for him all this time – it was the whole reason he wanted to work with the government. He angrily calls his superior and asks why he wasn’t informed about this. The answer is that he didn’t need to know, until now. Furman meets with Mr. Keys – now an old man – and demands he release Grimlock as he is an Autobot and an ally to Earth. Mr. Keys refuses and kicks Furman and Jessie out of the installation. They are followed by a familiar red truck that transforms into Optimus Prime. When they discover they both want the same thing – Grimlock freed – Furman reluctantly agrees to team up. However, it is impossible to get back into the installation now. The Autobot leader asks Furman to take him to where the other Cybertronians’ bodies are so they can be revived and help in the rescue mission. Furman sneaks the Autobots into the crash site. They find the bodies of the four ancient Autobots and flee with them before the military can stop them. RATCHET manages to rebuild the bodies of SWOOP, SNARL, SLAG and SLUDGE, giving them the ability to transform into various dinosaurs so they will fit in with their leader. Prime brings them back to life with the Matrix of Leadership and asks the Dinobots if they want to help rescue their commander. They readily agree. Jessie uses her computer skills to help the Autobots bypass the military security. She asks Furman if he will tell Grimlock who he is, but he would rather the Dinobot remember him as the boy he was. With the Dinobots providing a distraction, the Autobots are able to rescue Grimlock without harming any humans. A furious Mr. Keys has egg on his face. However, before they can get away they find the Decepticons waiting for them. They overpower the Autobots and take Grimlock so they can extract his secrets for themselves. Furman wants to go right after the Decepticons, but the weakened Autobots have to refuel first. As soon as they are ready, the Autobots attack the nearby Decepticon base. TRYPTICON has arrived from Cybertron and the giant Decepticon forces them into retreat when it begins destroying nearby human buildings. Meanwhile, Grimlock awakes to find himself being tortured by Soundwave. Soundwave retrieves the disk and plays its contents. We see that Cybertron was once a cosmic being called PRIMUS (the Transformer’s God). He disguised himself as a planet to hide from the Chaos Bringer, UNICRON. Following an epic battle, both were trapped in the form of planets. Unicron travelled the galaxy for eons, searching for his old enemy and consuming planets in his way to survive. Soundwave dismisses this as a fairytale and throws Grimlock to the ground so he can join the battle. However, he has left Grimock near an energon cube. The battle continues and, following a brief duel with Optimus, Soundwave flees through the spacebridge, blowing it up behind him. Prime, Furman and several other Autobots are caught in the explosion and are seemingly disintegrated. Jessie seeks shelter while all hell breaks loose around her. The demoralised Autobots are no match for the Deceps. A revived Grimlock makes his way outside and sees a boy around Del’s age in trouble. It awakens his inner rage and he finally transforms into robot mode and cuts a swathe through the Deceps in one continuous heroic slow motion shot (you’re welcome, Mr. Bay). It takes the combined effort of the Dinobots to take down Trypticon – Grimlock takes a beating but beheads him with his sword. The Deceps are defeated, but the Autobots need a new leader. Meanwhile, on Cybertron, Optimus and the others find themselves transported to the core of the planet. There they encounter Primus and his ancient guardian. The fairytale is true! Primus is accidentally awoken when Soundwave appears and shoots at them. His primal scream echoes across the galaxy. Soundwave is neutralised and the guardian manages to put Primus back into sleep mode, but warns the damage is done. Back on Earth, Grimlock is sworn in as the new leader. He promises a fresh start with the fleshlings, as he calls them. In the post-credits coda, Prime tells Furman that if Primus’ awakening has alerted Unicron to their location, then it may be already too late to stop him. Sure enough, on the far side of the galaxy, Unicron roars Primus’s name and begins his long journey towards Cybertron. TO BE CONTINUED . . .

  • Feb. 23, 2012, 11:24 a.m. CST

    orbots commander re: bird

    by darthflagg

    I drool at the prospect of a Brad Bird TF movie. Can you imagine the action of MI4 with the heart of Iron Giant? If they can't get Bird, I'd be happy with JJ Abrams or Joss Whedon or heck, pretty much anyone except Bay. Did Paramount really need to drive up to his house with a truck full of $50 million to get him back for the fourth when they could make the movie for half the price with another, more talented director?