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AVENGERS enemy revealed as pink boardgame pieces... You might suffer some form of elation... SPOILERS!!!
Hey folks, Harry here... Well MARVEL has done a good job of keeping this tightly unconfirmed for a very long time... AND it is possible that Joss Whedon & MARVEL are having a wicked good time of fucking with us... BUT with the Pink Boardgame pieces that MTV's GEEKNEWS photographed at TOY FAIR tonight - and it looks awfully convincing that at least upon the AVENGERS movie boardgame... we have Pink SKRULLS - wouldn't you say? Click on pinky for more images...
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America!
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Feb. 11, 2012, 12:14 a.m. CST
They can clear be seen on the extended Super Bowl trailer.
by LuminousBeing
Skrulls gotta eat.
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If so, I vote Katee Sackoff for Ms. Marvel!
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Can't wait for this movie!
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OH WAIT.... WTF IS A SCRULL?
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Now...where are the FF and the Silver Surfer? Thanos too for that matter! C'mon disney! Spend the $$$$$ and get all licenses under one roof! Just doooo eeeet!
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Amen Brother! You got my vote!
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It was a no-brainer ....Whedon played the classic "No we will not..." (but really will) card that many a director has used...and yeah it was pretty obvious from the extended trailer as well, getting pretty pumped for this flick ... ... p.s. the cologne line looks lame....are they aimed for kids and teens ..if not, thumbs down...
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Feb. 11, 2012, 12:24 a.m. CST
So we got Skrulls. Way to go with the secrecy Joss, cant wait for ur epic 2 hours of
by LowDevil
a mish mash of a movie trying to explain who the skrulls are who Hawk is who Widow is who Fury is why we care who they are and why the 4 decide they should fight together. Oh did i mention the Hulk yet? Dont give a shit about the last movie, why is he around and how is he (banner) controlling him. Fuck even Joss the genious cant pull that off. Wait, he just did!
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... of the Pink Skrulls. :-)
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Feb. 11, 2012, 12:25 a.m. CST
Avengers is gonna be off the shizzhook if Skrulls are involved
by happybunni
Going to be a pretty crazy story
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...the producers have flat out said it isn't skrulls, and if that isn't enough the skrulls are bundled with the Fantastic Four rights which are owned by fox. I'm telling you it isn't skrulls.
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... that super-sucks, because it means we could have actually gotten a true-to-the-comic "Dark Phoenix" saga with the X-MEN.
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... but why are they pink?
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Mystical beasts with laser guns, not aliens.
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Feb. 11, 2012, 12:48 a.m. CST
Then again, they did an Ultron toy too. Doesn't mean it's from the movie.
by Domi'sInnerChild
The pink is weird. Maybe they just didn't want any Red, Blue, Gold, or Green pieces because of Cap, Iron Man, Thor, and Hulk?
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SKRULLSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!
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pink. skrulls.
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Feb. 11, 2012, 1:09 a.m. CST
Now the rumor is that there be Kree in the movie as well!!??? Wow we have an extravaganza on our hands folks.
by LowDevil
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Now we can move along.
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Feb. 11, 2012, 1:11 a.m. CST
Hey Joss, thro in a cameo of the F4 in there while ur at it. Its party time!
by LowDevil
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...but rather Chitauri. You heard it here first.
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Feb. 11, 2012, 1:20 a.m. CST
This film is just fantastic, that is really what I think
by thelordofhell
Oh by the way, Skrulls are pink?
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Feb. 11, 2012, 1:40 a.m. CST
Still not convinced at all. They look more like Surtur's demons...
by u.k. star
than Skrulls in that teaser; Helmets and feet especially.
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might they actually be introducing Skrulls for use in that Inhumans movie they announced not too long ago??? I'll be very happy if they use Avengers as yet another springboard into Marvel madness.
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Feb. 11, 2012, 1:42 a.m. CST
So basically we are getting skrulls by another name customers fox owns the rights via ff? I'm okay with that.
by dahveed1972
Now if they don't shapeshift they aren't skrulls, but some other aliens could work.
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The toy line also features motorcycles, ATVs, and huge-add rocket packs for every character. Doesn't mean they're used in the film. (It was revealed some time ago that the army might be some variety of creatures)
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Autocorrect fail
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Unless something has changed, The Skrulls are owned by Fox. They came with the Fantastic Four deal... rather, the name and the character of Super Skrull... Feige has said in no uncertain terms that Skrulls are not in the movie and I believe him. That doesn't mean shape-shifting aliens that LOOK like Skrulls aren't in the movie, though. Know what I mean? I think it's quite possible they worked around their legal obligations and brought in the Skrulls, but just can't call them that (or use Super Skrull). That's what I think, anyway.
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If creatures that look like Skrulls are indeed in the movie, Marvel/Disney would have to own them, whether they are called Skrulls or not. If they could get around rights issues that easily, they could also have an unnamed short guy with claws in his knuckles pop in and say "Hey Bub..." It was my understanding (from Feige himself I believe) that ONLY Super Skrull belonged to Fox.
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Feb. 11, 2012, 2:58 a.m. CST
so the Skrulls are in.....but poor Hawkeye and Black Widow
by Miyamoto_Musashi
don't make the boardgame from the looks of it
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That's not what we saw in the trailer. What we saw had three distinct toes on their feet. They didn't have pointy ears, that stuck out, instead they had wrap around helmet ornamentation. Their skin was blue gray and their armor was not like this toy but had a green orb in the center. Sure, it could be a difference in interpretation for the toy, but more likely it's that the toy can use the Skrull and the movie has something else entirely. Maybe they can say it's not the Skrull because it isn't the Skrull... it's the Kree. Think about it, blue gray skin. Armor with a green orb in the middle of the chest plate. Rounded helmet designs. Sure we see their toes, but who is to say it's not the Kree. It looks like it could be the Kree, or at least a movie version of the Kree. Maybe with the FF reboot on the horizon they will use the Skrull in the FF and then do a massive Skrull/Kree war that involves both the Avengers and the Fantastic Four. After all, who would have thought we would ever get an Avengers movie with Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, Hulk, Hawkeye, Nick Fury, and Black Widow?
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Feb. 11, 2012, 3:10 a.m. CST
Board games often have characters, scenarios etc
by 6000_little_griglets
that are not featured in the movie or whatever that they are connected to... see that quite often with videogames licenses too; they often take advantage of characters from the expanded universe...
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Who or what are the skulls? Can someone please explain.
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They were the "Skrulls" in Ultimates. Seeing as how the movies draw from the Ultimate U, this is probably how they avoided the licensing issue.
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Though the movie's invasion doesn't seem so secret! ;)
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Beat me to it. It makes sense, seeing as how the producers are drawing inspiration from Marvel's two biggest universes. Aliens that can only be beaten by the Hulk...should be awesome!
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That's a skrull alright! Can we definitely be sure this is from the Avengers movie though? Surprised Marvel allows leaks like this, or is it all part of the hype machine?
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Feb. 11, 2012, 4:22 a.m. CST
They're Sons of Muspell, of Muspelheim. You're all stupid
by Lex Luthor II
You are all incredibly stupid to think they are some form of Skrulls from anything that has been released, teased, or talked about in any way. Clearly, as anyone with half of a brain knows, they are the Sons of Muspell, from the realm Muspelheim. Look at the portal on the empire state building. It would make sense, WAY more sense than some stupid Skrull idea everyone seems to be onto for NO reason whatsoever given ANYTHING we've seen or heard to date. you all = idiots. Sons of Muspell, led by Surtr. I = smarter than all of you. mkay?
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When it was actually revealed what the Skrulls have been renamed to to avoid copyright issues? And it ISN'T 'Chitauri'. I can't remember off the top of my head but the name sounds pretty lame.
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If your guess is true, that sounds completely retarded and this Avengers movie is going to BLOW!!!
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Which is actually kind of clever now that I think of it. This way they remain 'the Skrulls' without having to be renamed, but the characters in the movie don't actually call them 'Skrulls' because that because the info has been redacted from the Intel files. Leaves room for retconning if they ever get the rights to the name from Fox.
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Just never call them by their proper name. It's not like an alien invasion force is going to announce themselves. This isn't Doctor Who.
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As someone above already said, you can't just simply rename something that's owned by another company and use it freely. Intellectual property goes far behind a simple name.
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Are you serious? There's a guy in a metal suit called Iron-Man. A guy in an American flag called Captain America. Of course the bad guys announce themselves! Superhero comics are not generally subtle. And my money's on the Muspell lot.
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Feb. 11, 2012, 6:35 a.m. CST
But i heard they can csll 'em "Skrulls" because Fox owns the rights to the nsme for their shitty Fsntastic Four franchise
by mdk
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Feb. 11, 2012, 6:58 a.m. CST
Finally something Avengers without Scarlets face plastered all over it...
by Farrokh
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http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/02/05/lokis-army-revealed-avengers-superbowl-trailer-know-who-they-ish/
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Theyll use the Chitauri name from Ultimates. In fact that's probably why they had Millar come up with the alternate name in the first place. Now if we can only get the "surrender?" line in the film (ducks and runs)
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Feb. 11, 2012, 7:30 a.m. CST
That picture gave me a MONSTERS IN MY POCKET flashback.
by DerLanghaarige
Childhood memories...
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I recall reading that Fox only owns the rights to the character of Super Skrull for Fantastic Four, but not to the Skrulls in general. This, marvel could use the Skrulls as a race but not a Super Skrull.
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I though the trailer showed those frost men leaping down? Aren't they the army that Loki brought with him? Don't remember seeing any pink orcs? . . ..... .. .....Come to think of it i don't really care
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Allows the characters to be Skrulls without the name. Also, Coulson is one of them.
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The Skrulls are legally tied up.
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I think the guy's at Bleeding cool have it right. It makes sense that if Loki is the main baddie that his army will come from the Norse mythology. The Marvel Cinematic Universe seems to be based around Odin, Thor and the Norse Mythos as the supernatural/magic-is-science component. I like it a lot. who cares if it is Scrulls, Kree, Chitauri or Red Lectroids led by John Bigbootie. what ever the fuck. It looks like they nailed it and we will see badassery punctuated by witty repartee for 2 hours with happy ending and a table shower. Life doesn't suck.
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Feb. 11, 2012, 8:20 a.m. CST
I was going with Badoons and especially re legal issues
by Miyamoto_Musashi
but looking more and more likely it will be the Skrulls known as the Chitauri Besides "Badoons" you could just imagine the reviewers ripping into their name alone.. "so the main bad guy of the movie is Loki and he is supported by an alien race called unfortunately Bad-oons, yep thats right the bad guys are called something which is a combination of "bad" & "goons" "
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Seriously, though, why not make them lime green, to distinguish them from The Hulk?
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I saw a spoiler some time back on youtube where it was revealed that it WAS the skrulls but because of legal issues they had to call them the REDACTED in this movie ..
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Feb. 11, 2012, 8:54 a.m. CST
That's some shitty boardgame ... bet it'll cost a cash-in fortune, too.
by unclemonty666
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Feb. 11, 2012, 8:54 a.m. CST
Wow that admiral_n8 guy wins. That's the best adamant geek from hell comment I've ever heard.
by UltraTron
Well one of em. Anyways..
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpXuoqwCNgY
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like major plot points
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two days ago. Ain't it stale news.
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Feb. 11, 2012, 9:39 a.m. CST
A Skrull by any other name---is still a Skrull.
by The Reluctant Austinite
Nuff Said. Excelcior!
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I believe you are correct
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The Cosmic Cube was in both Cap and Thor, and the Skrulls created it
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Feb. 11, 2012, 9:43 a.m. CST
I hate that certain studios own rights to certain characters.... Tis annoying
by Tank Williams
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Or should I just assume its a waste of money
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... The future, like the arc on the animated show this season ... Perfect precursor for a Skrull / Kree based sequel, and fun way to focus on cap being displaced.
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And a skrull turning into a cow which is benignly headed for the hamburger factory at the end of the movie.
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makes sense since a lot of the ULTIMATE universe is being used for these movies. Excerpt from wikipedia.org:<p> "Ultimate Skrulls... The first alien shapeshifters introduced in the Ultimate Marvel Universe are known on Earth as the Chitauri, who financed the Nazi regime in an attempt to conquer the Earth. Their leader Herr Kleiser states that they are called by other names on various worlds, including the name "Skrull". These Chitauri claim to originate in the "lower fourth dimension", and assume others' forms by devouring them; it is unknown what their true form looks like, since the only time one of them is shown in it is after it has been killed and dissected. The Chitauri have a hivelike social order, with the "officer caste" having superhuman strength, durability and high intelligence
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Was not a mistake. It looked as if he was being sucked up into Asgard. This race of beings from some other realm attack Earth, accompanied by technology similar to what the Red Skull was developing, but more advanced. And Loki comes along for the ride.
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Kang turns any movie into a time travel film. We have quite enough of those already, thank you.
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Feb. 11, 2012, 10:59 a.m. CST
looks like a gremlin - will non fans like the skrulls?
by JimmyJoe RedSky
the kirby style skrull is a comic icon - i wonder how they streamlined it(them) for modern cineplex dummies
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The Infinity Gauntlet tease from way back has to mean something.
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Arnold Brownshwaygah: jahm de natwurk?! Me: No, I said I know what skrulls are. They are characters in the Marvel comic universe. Arnold Brownshwaygah: jahmdit up jour azz, ve goht tew gittowt uv hearah!!! Me: Why? We're just talking about comics.
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Feb. 11, 2012, 11:06 a.m. CST
So I guess we live in a world where MTV covers geek news faster than AICN.
by Matt Goodman
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how often do we see toys based on movies that feature items or characters not seen in the actual movie? so it could just be a case of that, especially since this is just some board game thing and might need more characters than the movie provides.
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. . . Skrulls being controlled by the Brood.
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Feb. 11, 2012, 11:40 a.m. CST
Anyone mention that theyre pink because theyre prototypes?
by sunwukong86
You know, like unfinished?
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Looks like Joss disappoints again!
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To me it looks like the evil monster aliens from that movie. Am I the only one not excited for the Avengers movie???
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Sons of Muspel wouldn't have been flying around in spaceships. Skrulls (excuse me, Chitauri) would
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first off, as others have said, pieces of a board game are irrelevant. second, i agree with the folks saying that it's the sons of muspell. that would be MUCH more logical since loki is leading it also, this was the quote by kevin feige: “Who said they were aliens?” he teases. Beings from the Nine Realms, then, ventures Empire? “Closer…It’s not Skrulls, I’ve been clear about that. Beyond that, we want to hide it. The identity of the alien race is not impactful. It exists in the comic books, but we’re not setting up the Kree-Skrull war or anything like that.” sons of muspel would be beings from the nine realms more than skrulls would be. and that bleedingcool link is much more compelling evidence than a chess game piece
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...they are fucking PAWNS on a BOARD GAME?! Imagine that, if you will. A world where pieces of a board game are all manufactured in monochrome. It's not like this has ever been done since the ancient days of chess, checkers, othello, or baccarat, right?! Gosh! I wonder if the "other side" will be forged with a purple hue. Oh noes! NEVER!! BTW, Herman Cain never intended to actually dig a moat along the Southern US border or light it on fire, you hopelessly ignorant, literal twits. FACT!!
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This movie will be bad because the villains are terrible. Loki? Skrulls? Who gives a shit! The Avengers are awesome heroes, but there is no one for them to fight against who isn't lame. In fact, the whole Marvel universe, outside of the X-Men, has mostly shitty villains. Even Spider-Man villains are lame.
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An intergalactic squid that destroys the city?
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Y'know, a while back someone had posted that the "scoop" was that Thanos would turn out to be the BIG BAD behind Loki's attack. Knowing that Odin has the Infinity Gauntlet in his weapons vault, I started to think about the following storyline for the Avengers trilogy--Loki attacks with an army in Movie 1, and is defeated, BUT in the process it is revealed at the very end of the movie that Loki's attack was a diversion masterminded by Thanos to allow him to gain possession of the Cosmic Cube without revealing himself. Movie 2 is the Avengers battling a re powered CC wielding Thanos, who APPEARS to be defeated at the end...BUT, again we find the CC was a feint to gain access to Odin's weapons vault & the Infinity Gauntlet--which sets up a high stakes battle for the fate of ALL realities in Avengers #3. That's PROBABLY NOT what the plan is, BUT IF they wanted a storyline that crosses all 3 planned movies i think it could be a very entertaining one that also justifies the need for the current Avengers to work together & could justify expanding the team as the trilogy progresses.
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Then I'd paint 'em and use 'em to play the old TSR Marvel Super Heroes RPG. I love board games with plastic minis, for this reason. It's a cheap way to build up your minis collection.
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Make 'em look and act like Skrulls but use the name "Chitauri". A fine loophole!
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badoon Much more likely. Especially since Quint brings up the legality issue. The pic in the link even looks like the figure.
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i think the male race of badoon is probably right. though they've probably merged badoon and the skrulls to bypass the legal issues. i read that some badoon warriors have exploding armor, and something about resurrecting fallen enemies into cybernetic 'zoms'... if done well, both things could be interesting and typical of something whedon would use.
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Feb. 11, 2012, 3:11 p.m. CST
bemorefunny: well for the most part you are of course right.
by UltraTron
But they got Thanos and his girly boots. Galactus and Satan. Don't forget Satan. Dormamu. Dormamu is cool. See there's some.
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Because that's who I predicted it would be ages ago and I like being right.
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that what Skrulls are called in "The Ultimates"
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Need scientific proof why the Skrulls won't be in this movie.
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Actually, JonJon, renaming the characters or race would go a long way to getting past the rights issues. While it's true the copyright extends simply beyond the name, you also can't copyright an idea - just a specific expression of that idea. Changing the name would go a long way towards distorting that expression, and therefore largely defeat the issue of another studio having the cinematic rights to "Skrulls." This is especially true considering that the idea of the "Skrull" - a shape-shifting alien invasion force - is commonly found in all sorts of literature (including within the Marvel Universe). So it goes something like, "Ok, the Avengers are being attacked by a reptilian shape-shifting alien race. BUT, they're from another dimension, not outer-space. And we call them the Badoon or the Chitauri or the Critters. Not Skrulls." That combined with visual changes, and any other minor changes, that almost certainly would accompany the page to film transition anyway (eg. giving them a hive-mind, giving their backstory a tweak, giving them fangs or a hinging jaw or battle armor...), and your rights issues are pretty much taken care of. But it doesn't matter. Because they're not Skrulls. Or Badoon. Loki, involved with an extra-dimensional, (potentially shape-shifting) invasion force, creating an event that results in the formation of the Avengers? We're clearly talking about Space Phantoms from Limbo, right?
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Skrulls don't have horns. Skrulls don't wear horned helmets. Skrull don't have ears that point that way. They have Mr. Spock ears. They are bigger than Spock's ears, proportionately speaking, but they do not haev horns.
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because a Skrull plot should be one of the Skrulls gradually infiltrating human governments, research facilities, etc., over time (as in the "Secret Invasion" arc). That's something that could be set up in the first Avengers movie and then brought forward in the second, but it's too hard to cram all that into the first movie when you're also introducing the new team. Also, it'd have the most punch if a Skrull were actually impersonating a member of the Avengers, but that works better if we've previously gotten to know the team with that member in non-Skrull mode. Plus having the Skrulls just attacking in waves while clearly looking alien would not exactly highlight their strong point as, y'know, sneaky shapeshifters.
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Múspellsmegir, "sons of Muspell", or eldjötnar
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Including lawmaster bike: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CSu3rJNoMQ
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True story. As far as you know.
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An army can not be the main enemy. I hope it is Thanos. Hoping for the infinity Gauntlet. Adam Warlock!
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Feb. 11, 2012, 9:06 p.m. CST
Well there are these shots from the cancelled Avengers tie in game as well...
by ajt2111
http://screenrant.com/avengers-villains-skrulls-video-game-images-benk-129980/ One is the Super Skrull, but based on what we saw in the trailer these look pretty damn close
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The skull uniforms and ears are the same as the ones in the cancelled video game.
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Feb. 11, 2012, 10:07 p.m. CST
It's actually based on the mythology of the Marvel character called Thor
by Larry Sellers
It's not quite Norse mythology. People keep confusing the two. And it's really easy to do so. Considering that in Norse mythology, Thor regularly teamed up with four modern superheroes.
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-- including the "Killer Croc" Lizard figures.
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...does not need to be uttered at all if that is the legal issue. The word "Ewok" was never uttered once in dialogue in Return of the Jedi, fact.
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Feb. 12, 2012, 12:13 a.m. CST
There's also a Captain Britain official Avengers movie action figure, is he in this too?
by Cap'n Jack
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Feb. 12, 2012, 12:33 a.m. CST
Yeah, whos to say that the pieces for this board game represent actual characters from the movie? five minutes of my life wasted... grumble
by dahveed1972
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Feb. 12, 2012, 3:37 a.m. CST
The idea that secrets can be kept on multimillion dollar modern films is insane.
by Onin Solstice
Millions of bucks, thousands of crew members, months/years of work and we all think something can somehow stay hidden until release? Shoot a film with your flip in the backyard with a few buds, that's the only film you can keep under wraps until release.
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Feb. 12, 2012, 4:38 a.m. CST
I read that the aliens are called "REDACTED", like their names, IDs, etc. are confidential. No, really!
by Al
So they're never named in the movie since the heroes don't know them, and Loki never provides the name since he's a trickster God and all, so Quint may be onto something. Look like a Skrull, talk like a Skrull, shapeshift like a Skrull (although shapeshifting bad guys would make an already complicated movie REALLY complicated) but don't call 'em a Skrull.
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Feb. 12, 2012, 4:40 a.m. CST
Like, SHIELD named them "The Redacted" in their intel files or whatever
by Al
It's so top secret that angry aliens exist that they're only known as "Redacted". Or maybe it's an in-joke that even Fury won't tell the Avengers their name.
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quote: The word "Ewok" was never uttered once in dialogue in Return of the Jedi, fact. : quote And the name "Boba Fett," IIRC, is never said aloud in ESB (though it is in ROTJ).
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Feb. 12, 2012, 2:02 p.m. CST
I like how all your MARVEL news are Highlighted, Bold, and Exciting.
by Zurge
While the DC News are all like "Meh". lol. You guys are coming off very ...Fox Newsy. Whatever the villain is, I will watch it :D
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They are the Chitauri. This film is based more on the Ultimate Marvel Universe, and in said Universe the Skrulls are known as the Chitauri.
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at level 5 rage going completely berzerk in Asgard where no one, not even the Avengers, can stop him. The technology is there to showcase Hulk's true abilities. It needs to happen.
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Feb. 12, 2012, 5:12 p.m. CST
Fox just has the rites to SuperSkrull and not the Skrull race. I thought this was debunked some years ago.
by The Founder
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Feb. 12, 2012, 5:14 p.m. CST
as much as I love Thor the Hemsworth version is purely Ultimate Thor. 616 is and always will be the real Thor in my eyes but Ultimate Thor is more then fine
by The Founder
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Disney can buy fucking Jupiter if they wanted to so why not pony up and buy the rights to these franchises? Even if they went bankrupt doing so (which is impossible) they'd literally make it all back in a day. How so? Imagine something like an Avengers vs X-Men movie at theaters. Shit, you can guarantee every geek in the universe would pay to see the movie a hundred fucking times over. As awesome as it is to see these comic movies come to life in their current forms they will always be somewhat limited by outside forces and legal bullshit. Sony, fox, marvel....too many studious have control over pockets of the classic marvel comic universe. However, there is a wealth of shared history and cinematic potential for these characters under one umbrella. Jeez - if not buying the rights outright you'd think they'd at least work out deals and secure cameos. Such a waste.
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Feb. 13, 2012, 9:14 a.m. CST
They're gonna be Chitauri...like from The Ultimates 1. But it looks like they are going with the classic Skrull look...which is cool.
by Dogmatic
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Could they just be an army of Dark Elves?
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Feb. 13, 2012, 3:53 p.m. CST
Say, if this movie features a Cosmic Cube, does that mean A.I.M. will appear?
by Royston Lodge
Does the Marvel Cinematic Universe follow the continuity that says A.I.M. created the first Cosmic Cube, or does it provide a different origin for the Cube?
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At least According to the Captain America flick. So unless A.I.M. was in existence back then.... Perhaps the Norwegian division....
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Feb. 13, 2012, 6:23 p.m. CST
A.I.M. was founded in WWII as the research arm of HYDRA.
by Royston Lodge
So, they could potentially exist in the Avengers movie.
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