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OK. So Harrison Ford Isn't In Talks For The New BLADE RUNNER. But...
Merrick here...
Back when we learned that Ridley Scott was onboard a new BLADE RUNNER movie of undetermined nature (Sequel? Prequel? Reboot? Verse story?), the first question which popped into the minds of many Geeks was: will Harrison Ford return to the Rick Deckard role he originated in Sir Ridley's 1982 multi-version masterpiece?
At that time, Producer Andrew Kosove made a point of expressing his sense that Harrision Ford would likely not be involved, because in his mind the new picture was..."a total reinvention and in my mind that means doing everything fresh, including casting."
Then, last weekend, Twitch posted a report indicating that Harrison Ford was in early talks to appear in the movie (details HERE), a development later denied by the new BR's production company (details HERE).
Fair enough. HOWEVER, speaking to Entertainment Weekly, Scott offered an update on the project - which is, evidently, still very much in the formative stages. For the first time (that I'm aware of, at least), he weighs in on whether or not Harrison Ford could/should return, and reveals that he's already had some level of conversation with Hampton Fancher, a scripter on the original movie.
Pulling interesting Scott quotelets...
We’re still in discussions about whether it should be a prequel or sequel
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I’m meeting with writers and I’ve also gone back to [original Blade Runner screenwriter] Hampton Fancher and he still speaks the speak. He’s right there. I spoke with him this week. But we don’t even have a script yet.
Regarding whether Ford's Deckard character is even in the film...
No. Don’t know yet. Don’t know yet.
EW: But you wouldn’t rule it out?
Absolutely not. But I’m not sure that that’s going to be a story point, so I don’t know. But if it were, nothing would please me more. Honestly.
In the EW piece, Scott also goes on to hint that he's already mulling a PROMETHEUS sequel...not altogether surprising, as we'd heard that initial plans called for this Summer's ALIEN prequel to be installment one of a two movie cycle. There's a conspiracy theory afoot which posits that this BLADE RUNNER movie may actually be the second film in said cycle - i.e. a PROMETHEUS sequel /BLADE RUNNER film which somehow dovetails the BLADE RUNNERverse with the ALIENverse. To some, this makes sense because...
1) PROMETHEUS and BLADE RUNNER 1982 (and presumably the new one as well) both deal with life (artificial and otherwise). What we think life is, what we find it isn't, etc.
2) The ALIENverse could be seen as an extension of BLADE RUNNER's still unseen "Offworld"verse...
3) Some find the announcement of a new BLADE RUNNER in such close proximity and sequence to PROMETHEUS a tad suspicious...
To be clear, I am NOT purporting that I believe this to be the case. I believe the two films are (and should remain) two disparate entities and feel they should remain completely unique in their mutual settings. I'm just conveying a thought process to which a few fans are subscribing...
Read the entirety of EW's piece with Scott HERE!
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..nor a tie in between both universes.
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Feb. 9, 2012, 8:29 a.m. CST
Harrison Ford stars in the long anticipated sequel to Blade Runner... Blade Walker
by lv_426
He's too damn old to run.
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At least there will probably be real live sex-replicants to give everyone, including the elderly, hand jobs.
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Feb. 9, 2012, 8:33 a.m. CST
"We’re still in discussions about whether it should be a prequel or sequel" WTF?
by Simpsonian
shouldn't films be made because you have this story that you want to share with the world, not "hey, let's do something with this" "like what?""um, I don't know"
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let the nerdgasms commence
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AND FUCK SIR RIDLEY TOO FOR BECOMING THE NEW GEORGE LUCAS.
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Given Mr. Ford's feelings about working on Blade Runner and his experiences working with Mr. Scott, I really don't see him signing on to do another one. For years Mr. Ford wouldn't talk about Blade Runner and openly disparaged how he felt he never really got the character because he wasn't given clear direction on the film and that Mr. Scott was more concerned with how things looked than helping the actors nail-down their performances. Which is strange, because I think it's one of his best films. ??Pseudo?? Out.
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Seriously. AICN now posts speculation as rumor? Give me a break.
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If Ridley merges the Blade Runner world with the Alien world...I think these 2 universes are tonally similar & I even see a series of films/television properties where the 2 worlds are merged & exploration continues beyond their outer boundaries. It would be like a dark neoreal version of Star Trek. Make it so, Ridley, make it so.
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Feb. 9, 2012, 8:45 a.m. CST
look in the dossiers of the Alien crew on the Aliens...
by Dion Mucciacito
extra disk on the blue ray quadrology. These are the dossiers that are playing in the background of Riply as she is being adressed by the inquest. There are some references to the Tyrel Corp in I think Dallas' file. I always took this as a homage that Cameron's crew were paying to Scott. But a cool hidden detail. There are a few others that I am forgetting. Check it out.
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Androids vs replicants? They're not the same thing. One is outlawed, one is regularly used.
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And hows about Cameron direct PROMETHEUS 2. You know, for the symetery.
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=Twitch has learned that Harrison Ford has entered into early talks to join the new Blade Runner.= Alright...where? From who? How? AND WHY THE FUCK DID ANYONE EVEN BELIEVE THEM Not that it matters, as someone else said, should you not have a specific story to want to tell?
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Sad fact.
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Feb. 9, 2012, 8:50 a.m. CST
I dont mind them connecting the universes.,just make a worth while film in the process
by TheAwareness
i hav stuart hazeldines "blade runner down"sequel treatment,i got thru the first couple pages,but so far it feels like a retread of all the iconic scenes from blade runner one, just amped up a few fickle notches .. my criticizem can be quite harsh so maybe im being a little being unfair/dismissive..2 anyone who has this and has made it all the way thru 2 the end..is it a worth while read?
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...the Alien movies. In fact, fuck it, just make the next movie the L.A. of Bladerunner overrun with millions of zenos. They're jumping on spinners. Replicants are being mass produced and brought to Earth to fight them. It sounds both terrible and awesome to me.
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You might as well name a character in one of these new films Lieutenant Feraud and say it takes place in the same universe as 'The Duellists'; it makes about as much sense and has about as much point. Hell, let's tie them in with 'Hannibal' and the Lecter series with some throwaway wink-wink (WANK!) dialogue while we're at it, too: "Hello, Doctor Krendler, I see you're feeling much better after that recent... brain operation?" And surely we can't resist having Weyland taking over the mass production and distribution of Crowe's favourite wine from 'A Good Year'? Let's just throw in an actual unicorn from 'Legend'.
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If BLADE RUNNER is going to exist in the same universe as ALIEN and PREDATOR... Then where does that leave Kurt Russell in SOLDIER?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?
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Kurt Russel may have bombed in that movie but the guy did fight at Tannhauser Gate, give him some fucking props for that!
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add a subplot,that involves the replicants trying 2 take over the planet in the amids chaos of the alien invasion and ud hav a masterpiece young sir
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add a subplot,that involves the replicants trying 2 take over the planet in the amids chaos of the alien invasion and ud hav a masterpiece young sir
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add a subplot,that involves the replicants trying 2 take over the planet in the amids chaos of the alien invasion and ud hav a masterpiece young sir
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Feb. 9, 2012, 9:18 a.m. CST
Why no tie-in with G.I.Jane? Demi Moore is Ripley's great-great grandmother.
by hank henshaw
What about Gladiator? Can't leave Maximus Meridious out of this shared universe, Goddammit!!!!
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add a subplot,that involves the replicants trying 2 take over the planet in the amids chaos of the alien invasion and ud hav a masterpiece young sir
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Feb. 9, 2012, 9:20 a.m. CST
I'm still waiting for the film that links the 'Star Wars' universe with the 'My Dinner With Andre' universe.
by AzulTool
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Feb. 9, 2012, 9:25 a.m. CST
They also need to find a way to find Cameron's stuff into all this. Pandoralien.
by hank henshaw
Terminators=Androids=Replicants=all the same shit, no one will notice the difference. The cat people from Avatar fighting Xenomorphs. Pandoraliens!!!! Maybe the Nostromo was partly built with the recovered scrap metal from the Titanic.
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This endless speculation is just that, and not real news. The whole thing is so unclear and over reported I'm already sick of it and couldn't care less if Ford comes back or not. All we need now is for Harry to post this same article in a few hours...
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Feb. 9, 2012, 9:36 a.m. CST
He should stay a billion miles away from this Hollywood integrity ruining shite!
by CeejayNightwing
The film needs no prequel or sequel, its a stand alone story not a franchise bitch yet Hollywood are trying to whore out sequels and prequels for every Popular movie they can to a fast-food audience who have no regard for integrity any more. You cannot reboot a book adaptation, you either make a new adaptation or not. What you don't do is try turning it into another film prostitute until all the sequels look like pale imitations of the original movie and the fanboys are simply turning up to see new special FX like dumb ass Star Wars fans!
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Feb. 9, 2012, 9:39 a.m. CST
Bring on Alien Runner! It is revealed to be the same universe. Weyland buys out Tyrell and calls replicants synthetics who prefer the term artificial person.
by UltraTron
Off world colonists getting alienized and Alien Runners gotta deal with it. Some of the alien runners are badass synthetics that are friggin huge roidal muthers with the power of 20 men and they're also cybered out. These new synthetics are so advanced they can mate perhaps? Then a face-hugger could impregnate one and create a cyber-alien. Off the rails shit Muther Fucker.
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Feb. 9, 2012, 9:41 a.m. CST
So Sir Ridley doesn't know if it's a sequel, or a prequel, or even about Deckard...
by Stifler's Mom
All he knows is he wants to do it. This is what happens when money outweighs true inspiration.
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. . . should remain TWO verses. That way they won't have to try to stupidly explain away things like replicant/android. I think Scott is opening the door for a SERIES of separate Blade Runner and Prometheus/Alien movies. And that tinkles me pink. Of course, I'll be even more tickled if he nails Prometheus, which will mean he might nail the others. Scott is really rediscovering his sci-fi love and getting psyched about it, it seems, and that gets me psyched, too.
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Yup, as long as there's a scene where Deckard gets his eye balls squished by a Replicant (thus proving that he's truly human), I'm all for Harrison Ford being in this. Blade Runner with a Cane, anyone?
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Pah! I always knew that was unlikely - even when I saw BladeRunner back in 82. And I was only 11!
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Yeah. Well we'll always have the Dark Horse comics. What could have been on screen though....sigh.
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The last thing we need is AvP stylie fan fic turned into a movie with the Bladerunner and Aliens universe merged. Makes no sense anyways, the artificial persons in the Aliens universe, aside from Ash, seem to be pretty ok with their slave status while the Nexus series would take issue, mostly with a knife or a pistol. Lets leave such crap to the comic writers at DC and let some decent script writers come up with some new stories please. And lets not worry about dates and if the years mentioned in the Bladerunner and Alien movies have come and gone, or at least are uncomfortably close, these are spooky morality tales, it doesn't fucking matter! Roll on Fassbender and Prometheus, Paddys rule!
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...can they legally do that? Isn't Blade Runner a Warner Brothers property? Alien is 20th Century Fox. Some kind of deal would have to be struck, I think. But I like the allusion that Scott put in Blade Runner that the worlds may be connected (the "PURGE" graphic on the Spinner being the same as the one on the Nostromo screen...only difference was color.)
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Feb. 9, 2012, 10:16 a.m. CST
Undeadlien. Crossover between Dan O'Bannon's Alien and Return of the Living Dead.
by hank henshaw
Zombie Xenomorphs, how the fuck you stop that shit?!
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Feb. 9, 2012, 10:20 a.m. CST
For fucks sake! What next Indiana Jones Meets Schindler's List? Travis Bickle Meets Rubert Pupkin? Martathon Man Meets Tootsie?
by Baron Von Penguin
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as Soldier is a sidequel to BR also AvP would be connected to BR!! fdat!
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And seen Blade Runner with my dad (who hated it) I couldnt stop thinking "I cant wait until 2019, I want to live in THAT world!" I love that movie, maybe slightly more than I love Alien, and Alien is one of my all time favs. The only flaw that I seen in it was that damn V.O. I can also see why the idea of those two stories are the same universe is being tossed about. It comes down to visuals, and visually they lOOK like the same universe. Just different stories happening in it. Either way I cant wait for Prometheus! My most anticipated move of the year bar none.
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scott has publicly stated that deckard was supposed to be a replicant like sean young, artificial memories and all that. replicants don't age. harrison ford realy has. im all for him being in it, just curious how they would do it...a little jeff bridges from tron legacy, maybe?
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Feb. 9, 2012, 10:49 a.m. CST
re: "Then where does that leave Kurt Russell in SOLDIER?!"
by buggerbugger
Couldn't we tie that garbage planet into the 'WALL*E' universe?
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. . . there's so much more Dick out there to jump on . . .
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Feb. 9, 2012, 10:54 a.m. CST
re: "Terminators=Androids=Replicants=all the same shit, no one will notice the difference."
by buggerbugger
You mean to say we wasted all that time training German Shepherds to administer the Voight-Kampff test?!
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That was my theory back in Prometheus development. If this plays out then I'm on a hell of a role.
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Feb. 9, 2012, 11:07 a.m. CST
I always thought part of the appeal of Blade Runner was that all this cool shit happened outside the story...
by kidicarus
And all we were able to glimpse was this drab noir urban hellhole that was both dull and bizarre. Not really sure if I want to see all this stock sci-fi stuff cluttering that world up.
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Feb. 9, 2012, 11:08 a.m. CST
NO MORE PREQUELS. Give me some sequelitis, Scott, you bastard!
by Behemoth
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Supersized
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There's already been a series of BLADE RUNNER sequels, they're called "everything William Gibson has written from 1984-94". Odd that the man's work was essentially inspired by ALIEN and BLADE RUNNER (he's stated as much), he used the inspiration to change science fiction forever and no one thought to get him on the phone for something like this? Granted, JOHNNY MORONIC was excrement, but I'd say that was probably more the filmmaker's fault, even though Gibson (who didn't want to write the script) wrote the script. If Scott were smart, he'd just pay it backward and direct fucking NEUROMANCER, which is a lot more BLADE RUNNER-y than anything they're actually gonna come up with.
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Feb. 9, 2012, 11:24 a.m. CST
Attack ships on fire on the shoulder of Orion..Because of Xenomorphs!!
by BeanGrud
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PART OF THE BR UNIVERSE AND STORY. It tells a parallel story to the events of the BR movie but it also interconnects with them. It has great graphics for its time,it perfectly copies the BR atmosphere and visual style,the same actors from the movie voiced their videogame characters and it has a great non-linear with multiple endings story which is accompanied by an equally great gameplay. If you havent play that game yet,find it in the net and play it ASAP.i am telling you you will find it way better than this blasphemous upcoming sequel.
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Why? Why doesn't Scott just go back to the cutting room and make his 5001st edit?
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It'll be really interesting to see if Ridley and the writers decide to expand on the Blade Runner universe/earth, or altenatively tell another relatively 'smaller' personal story at the core.
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replicants bully deckard while hes playing basketball and deckard turns his back to the basket at half court and throws it over his shoulder and it goes right thru the basket and all the bully replicants go "woa.-better not mess with this dude".
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Feb. 9, 2012, 12:11 p.m. CST
@simpsonian, you are right on point. This is one of the worst ways to make moive I have ever heard of.
by JediRob
It feels like such a 'cart before the horse' scenario. Like, is this really the best way to make movies? Not even with any kind of story? Does it go like...Ok, let's secure our rights to make a movie. Then let's hire our big director, who will sign on with no idea of what the movie will be. The we'll decide if it will even be a sequel or a prequel. Then maybe we'll come up with a story.....maybe write a script and be in production in a year and a half!
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The End.
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Is usually bigger than the first movie, expansion. Maybe some kind of replicate revolt? They take over LA or something.
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Feb. 9, 2012, 12:43 p.m. CST
hopefully Ridley Scott knows what the fuck he's doing, otherwise he's risking a George Lucas legacy
by awepittance
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Where are the androids in Blade Runner ? Where are the replicants in Alien ? Similar production design + a couple of inside nods and winks from one director another <> same universe.
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Great writer.
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pretty amazing. The optimism regarding that movie is palpable from everyone involved. That, plus the awesome trailer, suggests they really nailed it.
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Feb. 9, 2012, 1:12 p.m. CST
Another thing to consider if 'Alien' and Blade Runner' are a shared universe:
by buggerbugger
Jonesy the cat would have to be an artificial pet. And I say fuck that noise, good sirs.
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Feb. 9, 2012, 1:26 p.m. CST
Why stop there? Crossover the Alien / Predator / Blade Runner Universes
by REDD
with the Riddick-verse! Riddick's eyes are an off-shoot of Replicant R&D. The Xenos from Alien can fight the creatures from Pitch Black...and the Predators get to hunt the winners!
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Attack ships on fire because of Aliens yo! Then they come to urff. The cities all look like Bladerunner on urff yo. Then it's all colonial marine/alien runner urff wars and aliens start fighting predators and Batman Beyond in full batman beyond costume.
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Feb. 9, 2012, 1:49 p.m. CST
Do you guys simply pretend these things are true solely to whine?
by Jay
It's not even a rumor. It's speculation created by the articles writer. And even he calls it a conspiracy theory. Yet here you all are, complaining about Ridley Scott and co as if the they actually confirmed it. I guess this how those dumb movie rumors start. In six months people will be saying "ya, but Ridley wanted to blend the BR/Alien universe. The guys creatively done!" You guys complaining and yelling "NO!" like Vader sound fucking idiotic. We've got to the point where news is made up so people have something to bitch about. Sad that this is what fandom has turned into.
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fuck, welcome to the occupy generation where people claim poverty and distress while texting and playing with their iphones.
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I remember SW fans thinking that adding "NOOooo!!!" to Return of the Jedi was too stupid, and thus impossible. Never underestimate Hollyweird. And, didn't they say that Prometheus wasn't a prequel to Alien?
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He will be... THE NARRATOR Minds. Blown.
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Feb. 9, 2012, 2:27 p.m. CST
Harrison just needs a script that doesn't purposefully treat him like a geriatric!
by Darkplanet
I mean give me a fucking break already Hollywood! My dad is Fords age and he's still out in the back yard digging post holes and hauling rocks around! Stop treating Hollywood's aged like they've got one foot in the grave and you MIGHT get a good performance out of them for Christ sake!
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I can just see Paul W.S. Anderson getting a boner over the possibilities..."when it cross breeds, we will call it Blade-ator!!"
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Feb. 9, 2012, 2:58 p.m. CST
..of his Blade Runner Los Angeles..is what i meant to finish on..lol damn this IPAD!!!
by cameron
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will be that Ripley and the crew of the Nostromo were all old school Blade Runner Nexus 6 replicants, engineered by Weyland Yutani (who probably bought out Tyrell in the past) during a time when androids were less organic and more obedient like Ash and Bishop were (non-organic, milky blood, etc). The Nostromo's crew were given false memories and created solely for the purpose of testing out a biomechanoid alien on a human and in a live real world scenario. In Aliens though, Burke obviously just thought he'd use the colonists as bait. So I doubt they'd be replicants. Maybe some of the Colonial Marines though. Could explain their archetypal nature that everyone complains about and uses to shit on Aliens and call it an inferior film these days.
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Feb. 9, 2012, 3:26 p.m. CST
Ridley should straight up adapt the prototype for both Blade Runner and Neuromancer
by lv_426
Dan O'Bannon's cyberpunk comic The Long Tomorrow, which he collaborated on with French artist Jean -Moebius- Giraud, and was published in Heavy Metal in the late 1970's. It is acknowledged as a massive influence on both Blade Runner and Neuromancer. http://cyberpunkcomics.com/cyberpunk-books/201004/moebius-the-long-tomorrow
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Luke awakens from a carbonite freeze and finds that he has drifted throught several galaxies and has been suspended for a long, long time. Opie and his car club buddies awake him from his slubmer and Luke begins to teach them about that force. Then a band of baddies who call themselves the Hollywood Knights led by 'The Boss' start trouble with the youths. They are quickly dispatched by the newly trained padawans. 'The Boss's' girlfriend then leaves town and her dreams of being an actress. Then her daughter, never knowing the love of a father, marries a cocaine kingpin.
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Very cool that Ridley is speaking with Fancher! That is a good sign. Plus, Harrison needs to stop acting like a little whiney bitch and agree to do it if Ridley asks. I mean fuck, it was like 30 years ago right? And it was one of the BEST films you ever made, thanks to Ridley.
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Feb. 9, 2012, 3:39 p.m. CST
yes, yes, YES... but how does this relate to Gremlins and Robocop?
by kirttrik
It is known that the aliens from Close Encounters From The Third Kind abducted a mogwai in the late 1970s without realizing the dangers of feeding one after dark and the whole water thing. After centuries of evolution in the cold dark of space and many battles with the kiddy porn aliens of CEFTTK the evil Mogwai developed into what we now know as the xenomorphs from the Aliens franchise. Space, being a grade five habitat, was fertile grown for those curmudgeons to exist and evolve. This will all be revealed in Prometheus. But still, where is Robocop, and how does he interrelate with that Satan guy from LEGEND?
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Feb. 9, 2012, 3:54 p.m. CST
Ralph Garman as Harrison Ford as Dekker in Blade Runner 2: The Replicant Mumbles.
by kdoc13
Garmy 4 life!
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Feb. 9, 2012, 3:59 p.m. CST
Any movie featuring emotionless humanoids or facsimiles...
by buggerbugger
...automatically ties in with every movie starring Keanu Reeves.
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I'd like to see that done, but I think it needs to be done very carefully or it will be really cheesy. You'd need at least two films, maybe even a trilogy to set all that up and have it play out properly. The idea of having some sort of replicants or human clones being mass produced offworld as a military force to go fight the aliens would be a good one to include. Maybe start the first Earth War film out almost like Aliens, and in a sense give it a feel of what happened to the colonists on Hadley's Hope. Start it with a small area being infested with some xenomorphs, then quarantined to prevent those wily bastards from escaping. A Colonial Marine special forces team is sent in to the quarantine zone to do recon, kill xenomorphs, and rescue any survivors not already infected. This way things can be intense and in the same vein as Aliens, as well as keeping the costs down for the first film. So basically the marines go in, find some survivors, get trapped themselves, and must work with the survivors to find a way out. There would also be the notion that some of the survivors are infected, with the marines having to make a tough decision to either leave or kill them, while the other un-infected survivors want to bring everyone out. Sentimentality versus military orders for some good conflict beyond just the aliens coming out of the damn walls (or sewers and windows for that matter). Since this is an Alien(s) movie, maybe only a few get out alive, and it is decided by the brass to nuke the site and prevent any further infestation. After the nuke goes off, some military tech operatives are surveying the site at the edge of the blast radius, checking for fallout levels and all that good stuff, when a marine standing by them hears a ping from the motion tracker slung over their shoulder. The marine grabs the tracker and swings it into view. A small signal appears in white on the screen. It grows a bit bigger, then starts to completely fill the screen... The sound of the tracker grows more intense, as the camera moves down the length of the marine, past their boots and down into the ground, through sewer pipes and concrete, coming to rest on a view straight down a long dark sewer tunnel. Aliens swarm through the tunnel like locusts. Some on the ground, while others climb upside down on the ceiling using the pipes for grips. The mass of biomechanical killing machines envelop the camera, blacking it out with a high pitched screech. Then in the next Earth War film or two, the real epic battles begin. Power armored soldiers, aliens spreading across the Earth and to other colonies, etc. Titles could be something along the lines of: ALIENS: Incubation (the film I described above) ALIENS: Epidemic (the massive Earth War and spread of the xenos to other colonies) ALIENS: Annihilation (war against the aliens on all fronts, maybe even finding and destroying an alien homeworld) That's your Earth War trilogy.
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Feb. 9, 2012, 4:36 p.m. CST
Those are some high falutin ideas you have there by lv_426
by Ted Knight
If I commit them to perhaps, novelization form, will you sue?
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Feb. 9, 2012, 4:40 p.m. CST
isn't the millenium falcon a building in bladerrunner, aye carumba, now star wars is connected
by wattos new hat
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Feb. 9, 2012, 4:43 p.m. CST
and gladiator is based on true events of earths past so that connects to
by wattos new hat
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When he's great he's a genius - and when he's bad he's seriously fucking bad. I have high hopes for Prometheus and a new Bladerunner - and I'm expecting to be totally disappointed in both!
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They don't even know if it should be a prequel or sequel. How the fuck can they know whether or not they have a plan for a movie at all, if they don't even know if it's going to be a prequel or a sequel?
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WHy can't Scott state that he wants to do another Blade Runner film even though he doesn't know if it will be a prequel or sequel or mash-up or whatever the fuck? Does Ridley Scott write all of his own movies? NO! So the worst that could happen by expressing this desire is that more people will write Blade Runner-world scripts in hopes that they will reach Ridley. One or two of these people may have talent and put out an amazing script that Scott reads which fuels his desires to delve back into this world, thus creating a masterpiece. Stranger things have happened. Or would you rather have Scott sitting there trying to force a story out of himself and listening to stupid ass studio exec pitches for the script? I'm seeing his going public with his desire to make this film as a good thing, not a bad one.
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Feb. 9, 2012, 6:30 p.m. CST
I love Blade Runner...BUT FUCK RIDLEY SCOTT. HE DIDN'T EVEN READ PKD'S BOOK AND SHITTED ALL OVER IT....
by thecomedian
"Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" has so many great themes, plots and characters that Ridley threw out because he couldn't be bothered to finish the book. Buster Friendly and His Friendly Friends vs. The Mercerist, Empathy Boxes(The ORIGINAL Social Network), Rachel and Pris being the same android model, Rachel as the femme fatale instead of the generic love interest that needs saving, Luba Luft(such a great character replaced by a stripper in Ripley's version), the ersatz police station filled with androids(that introduces the idea that deckard might be an android but ONLY as a red herring). The whole theme of Androids basically just being the scifi version of textbook psychopaths with zero human empathy. So much awesome shit and the best Ridley Scott could come up with is that sophomoric "Deckard is a Replicant". I grew up watching Blade Runner(even still have a giant poster of it framed) but once you read the book you realize it deserves a proper adaptation as an HBO mini series or something along those lines. Blade Runner will always be there. Let someone else take on this material and do it justice.
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Feb. 9, 2012, 6:54 p.m. CST
LV_426:u should just go "balls out" for the first film and deal with the consequences later,the first film should be about were ur part 2 begins
by TheAwareness
u could tie in the replicant revolt into possbly why the xenomorphs were able 2 get on the planet. have the replicant rebels devise this as a sneaky tactic 2 "thin out the heard"of humanty ,in order 2 make way for the now"invading" replicant army's off the shoulders of orion. forcing what remains of humanity 2 ban together 2 survive But?... Will the now raging alien hoards be two much for the replicant armys 2 deal with,seeing how 60 percent of the human population has been effectively harvested. Can.. A tribe of Predators living in the planets hollows secretly since the days of Atlantis sit back and watch as the earth Tears itself down into oblivion. And.. Will the "Engineers"intervene?and if so, to what end..
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Feb. 9, 2012, 7:03 p.m. CST
I'd like to see one focusing more on runaway Replicants as the protagonists.
by NeonFrisbee
What did those attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion look like? Probably awesome.
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Feb. 9, 2012, 7:09 p.m. CST
thecomedian, you realize that PKD LOVED Ridley Scott's film, though, right?
by NeonFrisbee
The film is drastically different, it's true, but PKD loved it. True story.
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But they might even be a little too balls out for me. A bunch of Predators hunting Aliens and humans on a xeno-infested post apocalyptic Earth of the future would definitely make a kick ass set up for an Aliens vs. Predator film. Give the humans some power armor or mechs, and you've got yourself a pretty wild sci-fi/action film with the Aliens and Predators. Too bad we can't seem to get something like that instead of the AvP films we ended up with.
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Go ahead and use those ideas if you want. I've been toying with writing some of my own Aliens fan fiction (in screenplay form though), and my other idea ends up with some Earth War stuff, but in a totally different way than how I described an Earth War scenario above in the talkback. Just drop us talkbackers and Aliens fans a link to your work when it is done.
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Feb. 9, 2012, 7:45 p.m. CST
The biggest risk in merging individual movie worlds like this is
by Arcadian Del Sol
that you run a very, very good chance of accidentally ending up in that snowglobe at the end of St. Elsewhere.
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Feb. 9, 2012, 8:06 p.m. CST
Personally, I prefer the ALIEN and BLADE RUNNER universes to officially stay separated
by lv_426
But I like little nods and sly, almost subliminal homages like someone already mentioned with the Nostromo crew dossiers having something about the Tyrell Corp. Or when I first saw Blade Runner, when that big ass blimp flew over Deckard and blurted out an ad for the Offworld Colonies... which who knows, could be something to do with the Alien films as they had colonies offworld as well. It is like the mystery of the space jockey. Once all the questions have been answered about a cool really detailed fictional universe, it can actually be pretty deflating and can sometimes make the scope seem smaller. Also, things can become so ridiculously convoluted that it saps a lot of the fun and sheer awe of science fiction. Look no further than the latter Alien and AvP films, as well as the Star Wars extended universe. Sometimes too much of a good thing is not a good thing.
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I've seen shit you motherfuckers wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the motherfuckin' shoulder of Orion 'n' shit. I done seen c-beams glitter in the motherfuckin' dark near the motherfuckin' Tanhauser Gate, 'n' shit. All them motherfuckers will be lost in time, like tears in the motherfuckin' rain, bitch.
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LOL...Good one..
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Blade Runner was great because it was a perfect marriage of concept, atmosphere, idiosyncratic casting, production design and score. I don't think anybody - even Ridley Scott - could ever duplicate all those elements successfully in a sequel. Just think about some of the most memorable scenes in BR and try to imagine them being allowed in a modern big budget sci/fi action film: The melancholy "Tears in the Rain" monologue, the slow city flyovers, Rachel's interrogation, the slow-mo death of the stripper. Most of America would be baffled by this movie today - hell, most of them were baffled in 1982. So the only thing left to do is "modernize" it which means quicker editing, less obtuse dialog, probably a Hans Zimmer score, younger better looking and less interesting actors, brighter CGI-filled cinematography. All the things that make Blade Runner special would be lost, like...tears...in the rain.
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Feb. 9, 2012, 9:35 p.m. CST
Oh, and bullshit like "combining universes" should be left for the fan-fiction
by gary_buseys_upper_half
Meta crap like that always sounds like a good idea in theory, but it never works in reality.
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Feb. 9, 2012, 9:42 p.m. CST
@LV_456:The Replicant angel is the "cherry on top"my friend,try it...u might like it.
by TheAwareness
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I just can't wait for the end reveal when it turns out the Tyrell corporation is a front for Ming the Merciless and it's up to Flash Gordon, Mandrake the Magician, and the Phantom to SLAM EVIL in Blade Runners of the Universe!
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Just make me some action figures to go with the original! Dammitt! They make action figures of every movie but Blade Runner!!!!
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If we are talking an epic scale AvP film sidequel with some sort of replicants being made offworld and brought back to Earth to fight, then I suppose why not. I just wouldn't want to go too crazy in an official Alien sequel, Earth War or not. Then again, 20th Century Fox doesn't give a fig concerning what I think they should do with the Alien franchise anyways... so it doesn't really matter at this point.
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Feb. 10, 2012, 2:20 a.m. CST
Nothing would please me more than seeing an aging Deckard in a linen suit with a fat bow tie
by i_got_worms
It worked for Indiana Jones in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull right? Right?
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Feb. 10, 2012, 5:14 a.m. CST
my choices for a new Deckard or a Deckard like character would be Michael Fassbender or Tom Hardy
by AsimovLives
Tom Hardy as a new actor to play Deckard seems like a no brainer to me. If the idea is to tell a different story set in the same universe of Blade Runner, i'm totally down with that. It might even be preferable then an outright sequel to the futher adventures of Deckard.
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You made a very good point there, friend.
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Feb. 10, 2012, 5:17 a.m. CST
"Personally, I prefer the ALIEN and BLADE RUNNER universes to officially stay separated" I second that though.
by AsimovLives
It's quite obvious that those two universes are not the same, despite having Ridley Scott in common. An atempt to merge them both would be dom to failure. It would cheapen them just for the sake of being cute.
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Yeah, that would be good too. Good call.
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Harrison Ford wouldn't want to be in another Blade Runner film. Not so soon after appearing in the cutting edge sci-fi masterpiece, that was Cowboys & Aliens...it would be a step backwards.
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that was hysterical!!
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Feb. 10, 2012, 7:43 a.m. CST
Deckard was a Surrogate with a Mission Impossible mask and the Replicants were controlled by SkyNet out of LV426
by Rtobert
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Orcus heard you had surgery. What happened? Orcus takes it you are on the mend?
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Feb. 10, 2012, 8:09 a.m. CST
@LV_426 Replicant angle works ,as a fesablly interesting way of intermingling the universe the core themes that shape and comprise them,as well as being the strongest possible link between the trwo films
by TheAwareness
Mankinds, stumbling in his onward march into the future
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Feb. 10, 2012, 9:31 a.m. CST
RIDICULOUS INTERVIEW QUOTES FROM A GAY BITCH NAMED GEORGE LUCAS!
by AzulTool
About the changes he's made to the "Star Wars" movies over the years, he said: "Changes are not unusual - I mean, most movies when they release them they make changes. But somehow, when I make the slightest change, everybody thinks it’s the end of the world. That whole issue between filmmakers and the studios with the studios being able to change things without even letting the director of the movie know … I’m very much involved in that [so that’s not happening here]. … My job is to try to make the best possible movie it can be — and the current version is the Blu-ray version. That’s the one that’s been made into 3D. But it’s just a conversion. We haven’t made any changes other than the 3D." We're sure fans will disagree with that, but then came the big one... "Well, it’s not a religious event. I hate to tell people that. It’s a movie, just a movie. The controversy over who shot first, Greedo or Han Solo, in Episode IV, what I did was try to clean up the confusion, but obviously it upset people because they wanted Solo [who seemed to be the one who shot first in the original] to be a cold-blooded killer, but he actually isn’t. It had been done in all close-ups and it was confusing about who did what to whom. I put a little wider shot in there that made it clear that Greedo is the one who shot first, but everyone wanted to think that Han shot first, because they wanted to think that he actually just gunned him down."
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Feb. 10, 2012, 9:33 a.m. CST
Dear gods. This Blade Runner talkback is just as bad as the Star Wars forum
by DanielnocharismaCraig
And just as boring too.
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Feb. 10, 2012, 10:08 a.m. CST
this talkback is less boring than tha actual movie
by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE
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oh yes she did I hate that film. I know I shouldn't and it's a classic and there is some stunning direction, cinematography, but God Damnit I can't stand it.
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Feb. 10, 2012, 1:07 p.m. CST
RE: "at least if he's in it proves he's not a replicant... "
by Stalkeye
Lol that would settle the ongoing debate once and for all. Well played, Sir.
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Feb. 10, 2012, 1:11 p.m. CST
LMMFAO I can actually visualize a spoof with Samuel Jackson-Batty.
by Stalkeye
"All them motherfuckers will be lost in time, like tears in the motherfuckin' rain, bitch". =Comedic gold!
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maybe he won't live long enough to destroy Blade Runner
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No expiration date.
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Do we need another Mona Lisa? How about another set of Pyramids? PK Dick's resistance to the choices and his apprehension early on and his early discussions with Fancher had a major impact on the film. Yeah, it's Ridley's film all day, not Dick's, I'm just saying, Scott was affected by Dick's criticisms, which is why Dick ultimately enjoyed the finished product. I just don't want a fatherless Blade Runner out there. It's like those stupid Watchmen prequel comics... That's Alan Moore's story... now 10 guys are writing prequels to a story that was completely told? We all know how this turns out...
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