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Significantly different 1 minute JOHN CARTER spot!

Published at: Feb. 7, 2012, 11:34 p.m. CST by AICNStaff

Hey folks, Harry here...   This spot that COMING SOON broke looks quite a bit more epic than the spots we've seen before.   What do you think? I've been hearing great word of mouth on JOHN CARTER recently.   Any of you gonna give it a shot?



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  • Feb. 7, 2012, 11:36 p.m. CST

    Oh, so this is the Avatar sequel

    by chad kuhns

    Can't quite put my finger on what it is..but what I've seen for this movie just hasn't gotten me excited yet. I feel like I've seen it before, in Avatar, with better looking aliens. The alien design is a tad to hokey. Either way, I'm totally open to the idea of being wrong and having this movie blow my mind.

  • Feb. 7, 2012, 11:38 p.m. CST

    Carter Looks Disappointing

    by SutureSelf

    I saw the trailer for "John Carter" before "War Horse." This is a movie I've been waiting for for more decades than most visitors to this site have lived. Unfortunately for my hopes, the movie looked absolutely awful, in its visual aspects, its characterizations and its dialogue. I'm afraid "John Carter" will doom Barsoom for the foreseeable future.

  • Feb. 7, 2012, 11:39 p.m. CST

    First to say "first"

    by viks

    chalking it down as a W. Also, I'm gonna just keep up the trend of saying it looks like SW:E2's arena scene.

  • The superbowl teaser for John Carter was a terrible marketing choice.

  • Feb. 7, 2012, 11:47 p.m. CST

    Taylor Kitsch

    by BlackBauer0320

    Loved "Riggins" from Friday Night Lights the t.v. show. His character had a great combination of heart and humor. Unfortunately, I'm just not seeing him as a leading man here. He's lacking a bit in the necessary gravitas.

  • And it really is not the case.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, midnight CST

    Really, AICN? An ad before an ad?

    by Orbots Commander

    Yet, I have this bizarre urge to go visit Bermuda.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 12:01 a.m. CST

    Makes me think of "Attack of the Clones"

    by Tristan

    I saw the new spot, during "The River", and those CGI effects make me think of Episode II (maybe, because of the arena scene). I'm probably going to see the film, anyway.

  • I've been fascinated by John Carter all my life. The books and comics were great, but aside from a fabled Max Fleischer animated adventure that never came to fruition, JC never garnered the media spotlight the same way Flash Gordon, Tarzan, or the Lone Ranger did. I don't think there was even a radio show. So yeah, this is gonna be cool. Disney needs to buy up some ad time and right quick. I'm sick of getting punched in the face every night by The Phantom Menace. This is gonna be a great, pulpy adventure film by a master craftsman - Andrew Stanton. It's gotta get itself out there a lot more than it has. Disney really has to pick up it's marketing across the board. As for AOTC, Lucas picked that from Burroughs, not the other way around.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 12:29 a.m. CST

    Looks A-FUCKING-WFUL!

    by JethroBodine

    Just terrible.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 12:29 a.m. CST

    What no Led Zepplin?

    by The_Genteel_Gentile

    About time!

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 12:32 a.m. CST

    D.O.A. GUYS..Its sucks but this is fucked worst than amasing spiderman

    by TheAwareness

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 12:49 a.m. CST

    It just looks 2 cute and steirile.

    by TheAwareness

    looks like a reboot of Masters of the universe

  • I just IMDb Pro'd it and I was surprised to see that the only Lucas connection is Skywalker Sound. Its just uncanny how much this apes the house look of ILM/Lucasfilm. I did see a tiny touch of art nouveau influence by way of generic Hollywood production design in there so good for that. In my mind i see John Carter with rich colors like the deLaurentiis Flash Gordon. My first exposure to Carter was in Marvel Comics so that's probably... colored my opinion...trails off...

  • It's not that I don't trust you, big man. It's just that I don't trust you, big man. But I do trust my own eyes, and my gut feeling, and so far both are screaming 'mediocrity at best' to me. I'd like to be wrong, but I doubt I will be.

  • Ellison's filed a number of them, most recently for IN TIME, which he dropped.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 1:59 a.m. CST

    Say what you will about Watchmen but at least their Mars looked like Mars

    by Chuck_Chuckwalla

    Not like Palm Desert California.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 2:15 a.m. CST

    How stupid are they for not using this in the Superbowl?

    by happybunni

    This is 100x better than the one they paid millions and millions of dollars to air. Their Marketing team needs to be fired and replaced if this movie is going to make it's money back. This is a step in the right direction.... Might be too little too late though, I would bet money that theaters will not be full on opening day.

  • Kill that last ten seconds. I don't care of you think it's your money shot, it looks exactly like Attack of the Clones. Get rid of it. Take out a few other scenes... There's one where the princess looks 40 somehow. Put some quality music in, and no Godzilla music because that has been ruined. Hell, steal Seven Nation Army remix from GI Joe 2. Then start the trailer with 15-20 seconds of Earth scenes and him being transported, which they seem afraid to show. And BAM you have yourself an AMAZING trailer that everyone will be interested in.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 2:32 a.m. CST

    Looks cool

    by cheekerpot

    I'm kinda iffy on Disney films but this one does look epic and I like the design on those flying vehicles. Oh and did I see Carter do a Fus Ro Dah?

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 2:36 a.m. CST

    hmm....

    by dancetothebeatofthelivingdead

    I don't know. I agree with the above post that Kitsch along with Zach Gilford carried Friday Night Lights. I watched the whole series in two weeks on Netflix streaming and left me wanting more from both actors. Then I saw he was playing John Carter and I wasn't sure what to think. This looks awful. I know everyone is joking about the arena scene nut the trailer, t.v. spots, everything just sort of feels like AOTC. It really does. It feels like it's in the same universe of mediocrity and soullesness that the prequels inhabit. And Taylor Kitsch looks likehe's awful in the role. This is coming from someone who searched out his other roles a year ago because I liked him so much in FNL. Everything about it seems so sterile and clean and CGI out of the ass. Not even good cgi but prequel cgi. Add to that, Harry's desperate ramblings everytime this movie is mentioned. His lies about hearing good things in test screenings. He's so fucking desperate to get some kind, any kin of good word of mouth out there forit, that it makes me think that he is battling what he already knows will be an onslaught of horrible reiews just because he loves the source material so much and wants in to be good so much. I was stoked when this was filming, it looks fucking awful.

  • ... And it was pretty freaking awesome. Somehow the big beats lined up with his jumps and him putting his sword up, and smashing the rock against the ape, and at least half this video... SO MUCH BETTER!!

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 2:39 a.m. CST

    Should have played this during Superbowl

    by WONKABAR

    .

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 2:56 a.m. CST

    I'm with you stegman

    by Bass Ackwards

    Its not that I don't believe Harry has contacts inside the industry, I'm sure there are lots of people in the studios who are happy to call him up and tell him that such & such project is looking great and he's going to be so surprised! Its a cheap studio ploy to garner early "word of mouth," as Harry says. But I do doubt that he has any genuine contacts that would call him up and tell him that such & such blockbuster project is a disaster. I'm not saying this film will be, just that if it was, I doubt Harry would be in the know about it. Positive early word of mouth at this point just means there's an ad exec in Disney who's doing their job.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 2:58 a.m. CST

    Zero Interest

    by grievenom

    I'll take a big pass on this one.

  • by the other super-hero movies of the summer?

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 3:10 a.m. CST

    intrigued,just hope Disney doesnt fuck it up

    by j2talk

    intrigued,just hope Disney doesnt fuck it up....looking forward to this MORE than The Dark Knight Rises

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 3:11 a.m. CST

    Finally, a trailer that explains the story to non-geeks

    by melonman

    Someone's finally figured out that a $300M movie had better be sold to "normals" if they want to make back their dough.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 3:22 a.m. CST

    Typical Disney

    by Fridge

    Take a known, loved property, throw a lot of money behind it, and dumb it down for the masses. They did it to Tron and now they're doing it to this.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 3:24 a.m. CST

    Stanton's first misfire. Back to the cartoons, dude.

    by jamesonian

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 3:32 a.m. CST

    New rule:

    by DocPazuzu

    Anyone who compares a one-minute trailer to AOTC simply because of a CGI arena battle is a cretin -- for two reasons: 1) because you think the CGI was the problem with AOTC rather than the awful dialogue, terrible script, heinous acting and pathetic attempts at mystery and intrigue 2) because if you were half as well versed in geek lore as you are loud, repetitive and abrasive, you would know just how much modern sci-fi and fantasy owes John Carter What's the deal here anyway -- is haterism directly connected to being an ignorant tool with no imagination?

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 3:33 a.m. CST

    Newsflash, fridge:

    by DocPazuzu

    Tron was never smart.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 3:36 a.m. CST

    Conan In Space. Meh.

    by Mike Plowman

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 3:36 a.m. CST

    Harry is hearing great word of mouth on this thing...

    by kwisatzhaderach

    ...in his mind.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 3:38 a.m. CST

    margot_tenenbaum

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Right, the De Laurentis Flash Gordon is a great comparison, that's the way the colours should have been. This just looks completely bereft. Yikes.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 3:42 a.m. CST

    The guy playing John Carter

    by kwisatzhaderach

    His acting is atrocious.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 3:55 a.m. CST

    mikeplow

    by DocPazuzu

    Have you ever read any Conan? Or John Carter for that matter? Where exactly are the similarities other than a long-haired guy who sometimes waves a sword?

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 4:05 a.m. CST

    How can you hack on acting?

    by malificus

    I'm looking forward to it, what else is there to do, try and ignore how terrible Cap's costume looks in what should be the greatest superhero movie ever but won't be? Count the days until another overwrought Bat-Turd hits the screen and rave about it the way the drones will? Oh wait, maybe gaze in wonder at Battleship and wait for the inevitable "They sunk our battleship!" line to show up and feel my sphincter slam shut for possibly the final time? Naw, it's John Carter and I love those fucking books and I'm gonna take what I can get because everything else looks flawed, weak or outright shitty.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 4:07 a.m. CST

    fridge: In what form did Tron exist in before the movies

    by malificus

    that got ruined BY the movies?

  • the script could be avatar, braveheart, hell even indepence day.. `blah fight for us` `blah blah this day we fight` `blah blah fall in love with me` end rinse add new cg repeat zzzzzzzzzzz

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 4:11 a.m. CST

    /film has some quotes from `viewers` that seem a bit planty

    by higgledyhiggles

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 4:20 a.m. CST

    Damn right I'll be there to see it.

    by gotilk

    In 3D, too. Meh, a GOOD percentage of you just don't want to like this, or much of anything. It just looks GREAT! A little wooden, sure. But still looks like a huge flaming ball of entertainment.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 4:22 a.m. CST

    docpazuzu

    by gotilk

    DIRECTLY. Yes.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 4:24 a.m. CST

    Looking better with every trailer :)

    by marineboy

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 4:54 a.m. CST

    It looks like something to download, not pay money to see

    by FlandersBum

    Meh. I'm guessing most of the folks here won't want to see this bad enough to pay for it. But it looks download worthy I suppose.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 5:38 a.m. CST

    No significant difference...exactly the same

    by SmokeFilledTavern

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 5:39 a.m. CST

    Agreed flandersbum, this is a dowload movie

    by SmokeFilledTavern

    I don't pay for Disney shit.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 6:17 a.m. CST

    That slo-mo bass sound...

    by JonRD463

    ...quickly replacing "BWAAAANNNNNGGG!" as the most overused trailer sound effect ever.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 6:19 a.m. CST

    Does Spider Man have a cameo in this too?

    by cameron

    Might see this on Bluray later on in the year, if only to study Lynn Collins in a little more detail, just for research purposes. GO SPIDEY, YOU HAVE TO SAVE JOHN CARTAAAAAAAAAAAA!

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 6:20 a.m. CST

    THIS IS CARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! just throwin' it out there

    by cameron

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 6:30 a.m. CST

    Know what would be significantly different?

    by Kirbymanly

    If Diora Baird was in this.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 6:34 a.m. CST

    I've Been Hearing Great Word of Mouth

    by Aquatarkusman

    Those are called command hallucinations, dummy.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 7:10 a.m. CST

    BAAAAIIIIIIRRRDDD!!!!!

    by DocPazuzu

    I'm still holding out hope that people will come to their senses and cast her as Barbarella.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 7:14 a.m. CST

    Mars atmosphere

    by terrence horan

    How the fuck does he breathe?????

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 7:16 a.m. CST

    looks generic like it'll be on par with the mummy franchise

    by alienindisguise

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 7:20 a.m. CST

    The hate on this site is astounding...

    by WASPFAN

    This movie looks to be what folks on a GEEK site like this should be looking for -- did the Star Wars Prequels KILL off all hope for another epic series like the first three (4,5,6). Most other sites I am visiting are looking forward to this as much as I am - maybe it is time to move on from AICN - it is full of 12 year old opinions... The arguments about the trailers are so bias and dumb that I wonder at times do you folks even watch movies? It is a movie - some of you loved on that 3rd transformers movie. All Specticle no Story.... Maybe, just maybe, this will have both....

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 7:21 a.m. CST

    No, I will not be giving it a shot

    by ATARI

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 7:36 a.m. CST

    I will be watching this even tho it is Disney

    by RG

    Read all the books and really liked them - Those saying this is Avatar 2 /facepalm Someone said get rid of the Ape? Great White Apes are all over the books.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 7:40 a.m. CST

    AICN is full of absolute twats

    by NightArrows

    Yes. This looks "awful". You people are fucking tards. Get a fucking clue, get a fucking realistic scale of quality, and just fuck off already. I will be giving this a shot, because: A. I'm not beholden to the books like the fat, old smelly covetous fan-pigs that are moaning about it "raping their literary dreams". B. I'm not amongst the majority of retards that populate the talkbacks and hate everything, or shit on something before they even fucking see it. C. I watch a movie before I shit on it. D. I enough intelligence to understand that most of you are not worth pissing on should you ever be enveloped in flame, and yet I still read this bullshit. SO shame on me. There should be an automatic injection of the Ebola virus to anyone who STILL posts "this looks like Episode 2". That concept was established weeks and weeks ago. Might as well inject anyone who simply posts "Meh" or the biggest douche comment of them all "Yawn". The less of you fucking morons in the theatre the better.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 7:54 a.m. CST

    I Like Andrew Stanton. I want to support Disney.

    by kevinwillis.net

    But I fall asleep during these things. I'm not a big John Carter fan, but even to me the colors are all off. That's Mars? That's Deja Thoris (or however it's spelled--again, not a fan). I'm open to positive reviews, but I'm not sure I'm going to watch this on DVD. Maybe Netflix.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 8:01 a.m. CST

    Getting that Stargate vibe.

    by Bartleby T. Scrivener

    It's trying to be epic, but it just can't reach it.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 8:13 a.m. CST

    One thing for sure...

    by zinc_chameleon

    the marketing team will be fired for missing the boat so many times; this should have been the Superbowl spot. Too little, too late, with an essentially unknown hero. I predict $25 million on the opening weekend, with Green Lantern numbers after that. Sorry Disney, but the Avengers Superbowl trailer locked it down as the adventure of the year.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 8:21 a.m. CST

    I want this to be good.

    by Gabe Athouse

    Big fan of the books. I'm a bit disappointed in the palette and designs (those white apes look like overweight albino rancors), but the princess seems like a strong character and, hey - Woola, damn it. I'm going.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 8:37 a.m. CST

    I will see this movie.

    by Zahaladeen

    I understand mindless hate, I understand the seductive power of trolling, but I dig this IP and this trailer. I want to see this. Now.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 8:50 a.m. CST

    Excellent!!!!! Can't wait to see this!!!

    by billF

    Looks like it will be a fun and entertaining movie. But yeah, this should have been their Super Bowl ad.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 9:06 a.m. CST

    I enough intelligence

    by Subtitles_Off

    Yeah. You do.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 9:09 a.m. CST

    2012's ROTPOTA

    by Jam Banjo

    Loads of grief given to it beforehand, trailers that looked a little disappointing/sily, loads of abuse and negative opinion based on early looks before the films comes out and is pretty much universally acclaimed...

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 9:10 a.m. CST

    How many " greatest adventures of the year " will there be this year?

    by Subtitles_Off

    Um, one. Probably none, actually.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 9:22 a.m. CST

    Can't say the ads thrill me...

    by emteem

    ...but until Andrew Stanton actually lets me down, and he hasn't yet, I choose hope.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 9:22 a.m. CST

    I'll see this

    by slone13

    Fuck all of you.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 9:28 a.m. CST

    All of this should be cause for interest not condemnation.

    by Subtitles_Off

    OK. Because you said so. Personally, I'm sick of these mindless action-effects movies. Then again, I always have been. I saw STAR WARS the day it opened and found it " eh, alright. " There's nothing " obscure " or " outre " or, even artfull about most of them, that I can recognize. Just loud, vapid, flashy grabs at money. If " brats " want to come on a hype-site for no reason other than to prick the balloon to let a little air out, I say good on them. Otherwise, we just get the endless barrage of meaningless blather that is contemporary American marketing. " Greatest Adventure of The Year " ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Then, there's the other thing...brats being brattish. That's Social Networking. It's no different here than on Huffpost or Sarah Palin's Twitter page. Some times it's mean-spirited. Some times it's funny. Learn the difference and quit lumping everybody into one amorphous group for your self-righteous condescension. So, you don't agree with them? Good on you. It's good to have your own thoughts. They hurt your feelings over some dumb-as-hell blockbuster you have a boner over? Don't take it so personally. I'll settle it: They ain't better than you, and you ain't the boss o' them, either. Any yous refered to above are fictitious. Any resemblance to an actual person, living or dead, is merely coincidental. No yous were harmed in the typing of this post. The views expressed in this commentary do not represent the views of The Parent Company In Charge of Your Soul.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 9:39 a.m. CST

    jam banjo, you really think?

    by Subtitles_Off

    I think it's more likely 2012's TRON LEGACY. (And, yeah, I had to IMDb " Tron " because I had already forgotten the name of its sequel.)

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 9:41 a.m. CST

    2012's SPEED RACER

    by Subtitles_Off

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 9:42 a.m. CST

    2012's SCOTT PILGRIM

    by Subtitles_Off

    Nah, some people really liked SCOTT PILGRIM.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 9:45 a.m. CST

    2012's THE AVENGERS

    by Subtitles_Off

    They'll both make about the same amount of money, and they'll both have about the same number of false-positive reviews. They'll be seen by, basically, the same group of people. They'll both be mostly forgotten within a week of their opening.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 9:46 a.m. CST

    2012's GREEN LANTERN

    by Subtitles_Off

    That's it, most likely. Thgen again, what do I know? Hits and misses, these days, are so arbitrary.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 9:48 a.m. CST

    Why is Earth at Stake?

    by frankenstone

    There is nothing in the first book about Earth being in danger. Why must writers feel that they always have to "up the stakes" by putting the Earth in danger? (How many Star Trek movies had the Earth being in danger of being wiped out? I have lost count.) Why take a movie about saving Mars and then weaken it by making it really about saving Earth?

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 9:50 a.m. CST

    And what's the deal with the morphing guy?

    by frankenstone

    Or is it some sort of electronic disguise? I don't remember that being in the book.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 9:50 a.m. CST

    And why aren't the Martians red?

    by frankenstone

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 9:53 a.m. CST

    @geoffrey_fourmyle

    by billF

    Thanks for your post. I agree completely. I am a huge movie buff and I do like escapist fun science fiction and fantasy movies. So I like this site for the service it provides; breaking news and clips on the types of movies I enjoy. The constant negative and hate for everything that is posted on this site is incredulous. I am getting to the place where even reading the trolling posts by the majority of hate filled people here is not worth my time.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 9:53 a.m. CST

    It's a Disney flick for kids, people . . .

    by Nice Marmot

    . . . what else do I need to say?

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 9:55 a.m. CST

    Conan on Mars

    by Gezoes

    And not many know the B-books. Bargain bin.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 10 a.m. CST

    Is this the first trailer to use the word "Mars"?

    by Jeremy

    Best trailer yet.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 10:03 a.m. CST

    *sigh* I want to like this...I really do.

    by Blue_Demon

    I hope it's good. I love Planetary Romance stories. I read them a lot when I was a kid. I keep hoping somebody will film Robert E. Howard's "Almuric" but no way in hell. I'll see it.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 10:08 a.m. CST

    Yes, I will go see Tim Riggins Of Mars

    by JackSlater4

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 10:22 a.m. CST

    I'm definitely giving it a shot

    by D o o d

    the book is fantastic and even though I don't agree with all the images from this movie, I do like what I see!

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 10:23 a.m. CST

    Looks like it should be fun.

    by K-Gin

    The trouble isn't with the movie, its with people on here who want perfection or nothing at all... maybe someday you will grow up and maybe try to appreciate things a bit more. This may not end up being the perfect movie, but it looks like there may be some elements or scenes that are done really well and I have always liked the idea of the John Carter stories. I am looking forward to watching it.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 10:28 a.m. CST

    better

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    much better. There's definitely 300 million on the screen but I hate the art direction. And the casting. Reminds me of Avatard, only much worse.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 10:29 a.m. CST

    Reminds me of the Prince of Persia trailer...

    by clancy021061

    Wow cool trailer, action, effects, Rented it not long ago. Halfway through, "hey look the cats doin something, turn that off and lets watch" Dull.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 10:51 a.m. CST

    I pick response number 2, and

    by Subtitles_Off

    it's nice to see your not taking yourself so seriously.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 10:52 a.m. CST

    Disney needs to get the Studio in line..chop heads Iger.

    by conspiracy

    Spending $250M on a property most people in the 21st Century have never heard of, expecting to make a franchise out of it, was a bone headed move in the first place. The Problem is Disney is looking for the next "Pirates"....the next big thing. This isn't the way to do it. Iger already forced Ross to fire that fish out of water Carney...Iger should be a man and chop Ross next. Bring back Dick Cook....he'd have forced these fuckers to make a tight, reasonably budgeted, film that might actually have some presence out there. Right now...if I ask anyone about "John Carter", they reply "No...I don't know him".

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 10:53 a.m. CST

    grow up and maybe try to appreciate things more,

    by Subtitles_Off

    and join us in our lovely little fairy castle made of flowers. Yum. Life smells like marshmallows!

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 11:08 a.m. CST

    Still doesn't feel right

    by daggor

    The white ape should be threatening, but it has been over-designed and over-animated much like the Bayformers. It's so over-the-top I can't take it seriously. Check out the TEETH and the SALIVA and the TONGUE! It's all Grrrraaaaagh!!, when it could be more effective if it looked strong and intelligent, instead of being a spaz. The on-the-cheap go-motion Rancor in Jedi looks more like a real beast than the ape does, and that's bad. And, the link made me watch a Ghost Rider trailer first. Fuck you.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 11:18 a.m. CST

    So tired of them making everything politically correct.

    by Rob Jenson

    Deja Thorris should not be a warrior-woman type. Of course, John himself doesn't look right either, so oh well. Guess we'll have to wait a few decades for the proper Frazetta version. But about the trailer -- better. We'll see.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 11:19 a.m. CST

    Fan troll skinny(bandname)on book changes?

    by auralenz

    I think it was Stanton who covertly tweeted that shape-shifting was taking the place of wig and painted skin disguises. Matai Shang's early appearance and modfied Thern role, the plasma weapon from a later book, dead family back story, flying Zondanga, and a couple more plot points actually dont seem to change the whole "origin story" POM arc, believe it or not. I am a fan troll, but thats what I've gleaned. Kaor, Dejah! Out like a Calot! PS Dont change the Plant Men!! They need to be the creepiest creature since the Xenomorph!

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 11:33 a.m. CST

    Any trailer going to show us that he's from Earth?

    by knowthyself

    And he got sent to Mars? None of these trailers tell us who he is, why we should care, or what the story is going to be. It's selling special effects.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 11:46 a.m. CST

    See, geoff? You didn't ever have to make that clear.

    by Subtitles_Off

    Here's something else I don't need to make clear... wah, wah, wah, they're making fun of JOHN CARTER, wah, wah, wah, I hate them, wah, they are sucking all the joy out of life and making it crummy, mommy!, wah, douchnozzles, why can't they just be big movie buffs exactly like me?, wah isn't the kind of idiot-shizz grown people should really get in an argument over.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 11:53 a.m. CST

    subtitles_off

    by DocPazuzu

    ' I saw STAR WARS the day it opened and found it " eh, alright. " '

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 11:55 a.m. CST

    subtitles_off

    by DocPazuzu

    So, remind me -- why should I take anything you say seriously? Let me rephrase that: what possible value could there be in anything you have to say about a classic, pulpy sci-fi adventure story brought to cinematic life?

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 11:59 a.m. CST

    It looks ok...

    by Tom Fremgen

    I'm not sure why people are saying it looks god awful- sometimes I think, they think they are too cool for school or something. As for the changes to the look of the movie, well since I don't sleep on John Carter bed sheets, I'm fine with someone changing things up (looks better than Oa from Green Lantern- actually I guess they look a bit a like, differences being Mars is a dying planet and Oa is the jewel center of the universe!) So far the movie isn't on my must see list, but I wouldn't mind catching it in the theater. Lastly, Disney made the first Pirates of the Caribbean movie and it ruled, so there.

  • No, seriously, in the 70's and 80's when I was a kid growing up and going to movies and pretending to be captain Kirk or Han Solo or Indiana Jones or any number of superheroes and watched Saturday morning cartoons that were awesome and then I would watch Creature Feature in the afternoon and rode my bike everywhere and summer vacation seemed to go on for, like, a year and I hated disco and I would peek through the fence at the teenage neighbor girl who was smoking hot and sunbathing by her swimming pool and I made models of space ships from Star Trek and Star Wars and Space:1999 and lots of other cool sci-fi shows and movies, I would get excited about ANY cool genre (which I NEVER called it) movie or show or book or magazine. You see, there wasn't this thing called the internet where a bunch of self-righteous basement dwelling dweebs would pass judgement on anything that came down the pike. We would look first, judge later. If it was crap, we called it. But we were certainly happier for the experience of being able to give it a try first. I remember seeing The Phantom Menace when it came out and enjoying the movie. It didn't rape my childhood. I didn't think the kid playing Anakin was very good, but he was a kid. I hated Jar Jar, but I categorized him as "The New Ewok" and left it at that. Later I was told that I was supposed to hate that movie and that George Lucas better get it right on the next two or there would be hell to pay. This from people who never saw Howard the Duck and knew that sometimes your favorite writer/director guy might attach his name to something that you would find dreadful. I admit to enjoying a lot of movies that the majority of "talkbackers" bemoan and throw their arms in the air and flail about as if they were personally accosted or the funding for the movie came from their own pockets or something. Does this John Carter look like the John Carter I envisioned in my head? No, for you see, that would be impossible. Will I be there to see it in the theater? You bet your ass I will. And I pledge to see any film that remotely interests me and greet it with enthusiasm first. If it sucks then so be it. You have to dig through a lot of dirt to get to the gold.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 12:08 p.m. CST

    Yes, it looks okay

    by Rob Jenson

    Which is kind of the point. It should look better than okay. This has the potential to be a classic, iconic movie franchise right up there with the greats. Instead, it's looking to be around, or slightly above the level of The Mummy (a fun but forgettable movie).

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 12:46 p.m. CST

    shran

    by Rob Jenson

    Your point is well taken. Still, I am no base-dwelling dweeb. I'm married, own two houses and have a film degree. But I still find it within my non-basement-dwelling power to loathe The Phantom Menace and wish that John Carter could live up to its potential, and to be apprehensive when it doesn't look like it's going to. That said, I'm hopeful for it and will certainly be there opening weekend.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 1:17 p.m. CST

    @shran & geoffrey_fourmyle

    by TallanDagwood

    Very well said. I too grew up in the 70's and 80's, and jumped at every opportunity to watch a science fiction or fantasy genre movie or read a similar genre book or magazine. Sometimes that lead me down a very rocky path - Laserblast anyone? Still, nothing would deter me from venturing to the next such movie with high hopes that it would be the best, never pre-judging it without cause. I do not believe for one moment that the trollish behavior some on this site and others exhibit is a new phenomenon. Those types of people have always existed. However, their options for venting in a public forum did not exists or were severely restricted. It must have been a maddening and frustrating existence for such folk to be denied a wide audience. Why some people who so obviously have such disdain for the themed content of a particular website continue to visit it, is beyond me. Perhaps they believe they are doing a public service, or they are simply bored. Shran, you mentioned Saturday morning cartoons. I recall how I loved looking forward to the new season of cartoons every year. The advertisements would start in the comic books and build excitement. The internet and social networking are great, I would not turn back the clock, and the past always seems better from the vantage of the present, but I do think we have lost a little of what made some events special.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 1:33 p.m. CST

    Sighh...

    by lprothro

    Still tag-teaming the guy whose job you want, guys? How tiresom...

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 1:33 p.m. CST

    Sorry!

    by lprothro

    Wrong forum!

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 1:49 p.m. CST

    For those that think Taylor Kitsch can't act;

    by The_Genteel_Gentile

    Besides the fact that he was of the best elements of one of the best television shows ever... Also watch him in "The Bang Bang Club" playing a real life South African war-time photo journalist during the last days of apartheid. The movie's pretty good, but his performance is great. Kitsch gives off a strong Paul Newman, Mel Gibson, Brad Pitt, Leonardo DiCaprio type of potential. Seriously, watch him in "Bang Bang Club" and I dare you not to think of Mel Gibson in "The Year Of Living Dangerously" or DiCaprio in "Blood Diamond". Or watch him as Tim Riggins in FNL and dare not compare him to Paul Newman in "Hud" or Brad Pitt in "Thelma & Louise". Dude can act.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 2:10 p.m. CST

    WTF happened to Stanton's eye??

    by mr_bellamy

    Looks like Star Wars-lite. Hard to believe this is the same guy who brought us "Finding Nemo" and "Wall*E"

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 2:14 p.m. CST

    Where´s DOUG McCLURE?

    by CuervoJones

    He was great in At the Earth´s Core.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 2:21 p.m. CST

    The people I posted my comments towards.......

    by shran

    .......would probably not respond in an intelligent manner. And I understand the concept of differing taste. That being said, I really wish to direct my comments at those on this site that look at a one minute trailer and proclaim an entire movie to be shit. Really? To be able to have the power to deduce that an entirety of a movie is garbage from a trailer is almost completely ignorant. I say almost because I reserve hope even for these obviously unhappy individuals. I question whether or not they even enjoy science fiction, fantasy, horror or other "genre" movies, books or other media. I wonder just what it is that gives them the small modicum of joy in their life that the escapism of a good movie can provide. It seems that their existence boils down to how much of a smart ass they can be in a talk back. I like to crack the wise from time to time. But it always seems to be the same: Lord of the Rings was shit. Peter Jackson is a hack. The prequels sucked. George Lucas raped my childhood. Avatar was derivative garbage. James Cameron is an asshat. Etc. Etc. Etc. Look first. Judge later. And always hope for the best. You don't have to expect the worst with movies.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 2:51 p.m. CST

    When this fails

    by disfigurehead

    Disney will take it out on the theme parks. Just watch. Cutting hours, budgets, you name it.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 3:25 p.m. CST

    the advertizements for this movie has been atrocious!

    by AsimovLives

    the house of mouse sure doesn't have a clue how to sell this movie.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 5:54 p.m. CST

    He jumps very high...and often. Ya, we get it.

    by DoctorWho?

    Half second shots of CG armies rampaging...check. Half second shots of CG panoramic landscapes and vistas...check.<p> Sound and fury...so far, signifying nothing.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 6:05 p.m. CST

    Yeah, if this movie succeeds . . .

    by Rob Jenson

    . . . it will be despite its advertising. That said, I've seen many bad movies that had good ads, so this could be the reverse. I'm keeping (slender, fragile) hope alive.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 8:10 p.m. CST

    Re : doctorwho?

    by Real Deal

    Admit it you've never read the books right? If you had you'd realize that jumping ( among other things ) was one of JC's strengths because of the lower gravity he was practically a superman. But of course you wouldn't know that if you aren't familiar with the material. Do yourself a favor sometime and pick up an old classic and read it.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 10:18 p.m. CST

    EPIC FAIL real deal

    by DoctorWho?

    Know Princess of Mars quite well thank you. Read it in high school and many times since. I was commenting on the choice of superficial eye candy action for the trailer. Kindly fuck off.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 11:18 p.m. CST

    This will be 2012's version of the Conan disaster...

    by Bill Clay

    Another sword & barbarians movie going down in flames it's first week.

  • Feb. 8, 2012, 11:22 p.m. CST

    @the_genteel_gentile re: Mancrush

    by Bill Clay

    You got a bromance going with Taylor Kitsch, we get it, dude.

  • ... I'd probably enjoy the film more. I suppose one always has to try and separate the original material from what ends up on film, to enjoy it more, kinda like the Harry Potter books/films. If I hadn't read the first three John Carter books, I wouldn't know that Dejah is basically little more than a kidnap victim throughout most of all three of them, and that's John Carter's basic motivation, getting her back. From her profile on the official movie site, it seems like Dejah is a scientist and warrior who will, of course, play more than the damsel in distress that she is in the books. I guess female leads just cannot be damsels in distress anymore, it's not PC enough. Speaking of PC, did I notice that Carter, on Earth (presumably right before he heads off to Mars) is being chased by soldiers (Union? US Cavalry?) and not by indians, as he was in the books? Of course. Never been a fan of the Woola design. Seems like they dropped the ball on that one. I suppose I can deal with the eyes on the Green Martians/Tharks not really bein' what Burroughs described. Too bad, though, there could've been some cool visual stuff with them lookin' behind them while still facin' forwards. The White Apes look like they're 'bout the size of King Kong and ... well, hardly look like apes. And since when did Matai Shang get such a large role? He's hardly in the first two books (I don't remember him bein' in the first one at all, but I could be mistaken). I guess they needed SOME kind of "human" looking villain. Speaking of villains, if this film does do well, does anyone see the BLACK Pirates of Barsoom bein' the main antagonists in a sequel? As PC as this is so far? Hah! I'll probably take my oldest son. If nothing else, it does look like a decent popcorn/fantasy flick. As I said, I'm just hopin' I can forget everything John Carter-related I've ever read before I see it it. I'll enjoy the film more.

  • Feb. 9, 2012, 9:06 a.m. CST

    top 5 reasons why this looks shit

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    1. Action tent pole with no original action scenes. Everything looks VERY derivative. You open the marketing campaign with a scene ripped from a mediocre Star Wars prequel? WTF 2. Casting. The lead is un-charismatic unknown. 3. Art direction. a 250 million budget fantasy extravaganza shot in the western US desert, but no red color filters? WTF? Why is the environment colored light tan with hazy grey/blue skies? Seriously guys? The aliens look like characters from a Pixar film. They lack the realism seen in Avatar. 4. Should be called John Carter of Mars 5. The font on the poster is crap

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