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THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN trailer is up...
Hey folks, Harry here... I'm now going to think of THE LIZARD as just being a hybrid of THE LIZARD and SCORPION... because that gorgeous shot of Spidey and the Lizard on top of the building in the rain... It looks too good to instantly hate on due to no labcoat and the tragic loss of Aligator jaws. I like the look of this. I'm not gaga. I'm not completely over the moon in love with it. I am a bit annoyed at the costume. But man, hearing Spidey trash talk? Big fan. I also love the look of the film. I love that Peter Parker isn't just a kid that wandered into a radioactive spider... but also happens to be brilliant - and his brilliance and willingness to work with scientists that have ethical boundary issues happens to be one of my favorite types of Peter Parker / Spider-Man stories. In particular, that has always been my favorite tie between Peter and Doc Connors. I also kind of love Spidey tagging buildings... because he did that too. This feels more completely Spidey. I mean, Look at Gwen Stacy! Sigh. I really like this trailer. But there's still a couple of design issues that drive me nuts - cuz it wouldn't have cost a dime more to get THE LIZARD perfect... but the design is doing stuff I think is cool - so let's see how it works dramatically in the film. I am one of them nerds that actually does want and craves the lab coat.
Here ya go:
After watching this about 12 more times, I've decided that if they just add wavy Spidey Sense lines out of his head about 5 times in the movie, that Lizard snoutless wouldn't bug me too much.
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HAHAHAHAHA!
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....i cant wait to see this fucking movie!!!!!
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Spiderman is more parkour.
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that is all!!!!!
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Actually kinda interested in seeing this now. The one joke in the trailer is better than any of the one-liners in Raimi's films.
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This looks to be the Spider-Man movie we all wanted.
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Like I said in another thread,my local theater has $4 tickets on Tues....Denis Leary alone is worth that much. I'll see it.
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I hope my lack of any expectation rewards me in the end.
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Haha...HaHAha...BwHAhaHAHahAAhahHa
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I've been excited about this flick for a while now. The trailer has jazzed for what can be.
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Looks like Mr. Webb is getting off on the right foot. Now I'm excited.
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I thought it was a musical for some reason.
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was going to be the Vulture in Spider-man 4? Aren't we all happy that didn't happen now?
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denis leary kinda ruins it for me.. he's too 'denis leary-ie'
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The Lizard(s) may be the weak link, but otherwise it's got my money.
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Feb 07, 2012 2:34:44 AM CST
Looks great I'm definitely impressed, but again with the having to take his mask off?
by iamnicksaicnsn
Couldn't it at least be ripped so it's like he's TRYING to maintain some level of secrecy? I mean, I know he's just some kid that very few people could recognize, but he's still recognizable.
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Heck this even makes me miss The Electric Company's version of Spiderman.
!!!!!!!!!!Spiderman Meets the Yeti was EPIC!!!!!!!!!!
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... looking really good....
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Yeah I know...
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yet another obligatory scene where spidey loses his mask..
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Just what the fuck is Peter Parker saying when he's coming in from the fire escape????????
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That's not the Lizard. Sorry. Why can't they just let Spideys villains look over the top instead of realistic. Couldn't pull it off with green goblin or venom, and cleary they aren't with Lizard.
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Feb 07, 2012 2:40:55 AM CST
Pretty good trailer... but let's not get ahead of ourselves here... "Judge Dredd" had an awesome trailer too.
by chickenstu
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He's had so many versions of him spread through the spidey timeline it doesn't bother me that they made their own version of him for the movie.
What does sorta bother me is the ' grimey' look of spidey's suit and the dark eyes.
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Feb 07, 2012 2:43:26 AM CST
I'm just happy to see Spidey up on the big screen again...
by chiefroberts
...where he belongs! I can overlook the the snoutless Lizard and the over designed Spidey costume as long as the characters are well defined.
I really like the look of this.
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Feb 07, 2012 2:44:55 AM CST
Thanks xenii it's pretty late and my spelling sux right now.
by jethrobodine
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now I know. ;-)
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Everything looked fake. I mean the filmed on location in Times Square and it still didn't look real. And you could sure tell that whenever Spidey was in the air he was cgi. In this movie there's none of that. So I actually have high hopes for this. Could it be that Raimi = Burton and Webb = Nolan?
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You're not a Spider-man fan. Go watch Snow White or some shit.
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...has officially gotten to a religious level.
From the tone of some of these posts, the writers come across as Christian-Right fundamentalists.
The arrogance is tangible.
You're right, my friends.
This will be better than Raimi's films.
It'll be great.
Please...
Just don't kill me.
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...you should hire new writers because that story is getting OLD.
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So SAD! Just stop, you lost.
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Feb 07, 2012 2:49:45 AM CST
Action choreography in this version looks better than Raimi's.
by codename
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At 1:57 the Lizard looks like a bunch of steamed brussel sprouts.
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I guess they're more 14 year olds than I previously expected.
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Are you the same tophat from gamefaqs?
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WEBB = STEAK AND FRIES
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How the hell is cg regressing instead of progressing as the years go by?
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This looks very cool, Garfield has a lot of natural charisma, we dont't see enough of gwen to make any informed observations but his uncle and aunt are well cast and web swinging should pop in 3D...
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Doesn't look as bad as the other 3 I would like to forget. It's just a trailer though, so here's hoping. Does look like they got a good mix of gritty mixed in where it is not like too gritty or reality based. Spidey can't be too dark IMO, or it just loses something. SO it needs to be a little lighter I think BUT not like those Raimi NBC movie ones. Couldn't stand them.
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Feb 07, 2012 2:57:55 AM CST
If I wanted to see a CGI fight between Spidey and Lizard...
by bantuwind
I'll play a video game.
That trailer had all the crap that you nerds complain about in every other thread. Nothing in it looks original. I didn't see single spidey swing or clash that wasn't CG. It just looked like a darker version of what Raimi already made 3 times before. And the look of the Lizard...
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And the greenscreen spidey swinging through the streets is way more easy to watch than the horrible CGI spidey cartoon bits from Raimi's movies.
As a long-time Raimi fan from way back in 1983, I never liked his Spiderman movies at all. Tobey is a good actor but just totally miscast as Spiderman. And CGI just fucking ruins any film's chances these days.
Look at "The Thing" remake for instance. Despite plenty warning form the fanbase, they went and did the CGI thing anyway, and got royally fucking panned for it. Deservedly. -
......this movie will NOT become a trilogy .. . .. .Andrew Garfield is best suited to be an extra during a werewolf scene in the final Twilight .. .. . THIS MOVIE IS DEAD ON ARRIVAL .. .. ... ... and now for some Platinum Kush .. .. .. .. . .. -
No lab coat. No snout. His face sucks!! SONY and Mr. Webb fail!! The Lizard has been turned into a moronic looking Goomba. People will be laughing...
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Haters fuck yourselves
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Parker definitely has a much better and in depth story. This is going to be a blast! Plus be a huge release!
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Feb 07, 2012 3:10:00 AM CST
Jethro: "Your doorman's intimidating."
by marcel_the_negro_projectionist
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Not crazy about the costume though! Very rubbery, and where are the iconic white spidey eyes?
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Haters are in denial. There should be a support group for those sad fucks.
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Garfield is good, but I just don't like the look of this and the re-writing of the origin story. I like the Spidey universe where his missing parents are just that - missing. No backstory linking them to Doctor Connor - we don't need that shit.
And so in an attempt to tell "the untold story" - we get a deliberately convoluted version of the mythos which will get the casual viewer going: WTF?
I'm finding it really hard to love the Lizard character design - in fact, it looks like there is NO DESIGN at all. They just made him green with a tail.
And the wise-cracking...
I guess I was one of the few who didn't miss the constant wise-cracking from Spidey in the Raimi feature. Let's be honest, giving Spidey a real-world dynamic, it would be pretty impossible for him to be quipping every 20 fucking seconds what with breathing and moving and stuff. And besides, in the real world, every time he came out with a funny, the criminal would have had time to pull his gun and shoot the little fucker dead. So no...I'm not a big fan of the quips.
And it's dark...
'Nuff said. I hate Christopher Nolan's execrable Batman films because they are deliberately "dark" in order to give them extra weight, but which are undermined by a lead character that sounds as if he is trying to squeeze out a particularly tough shit every time he talks.
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doesnt take much to impress you people anymore.
its the same fucking thing all over again. THE SAME FUCKING THING!
How are you people not sick of this shit by now?
I mean, I can understand why the studio decided to reboot and make the same fucking movie all over again, and its because they knew idiots would pay to see more special effects....
but what I dont understand is why arent you people bored by this shit yet? WTF
You can say beat by fucking beat exactly what will happen in this movie. No lie. Probably down to the minute mark. EXACTLY what will happen, when it will happen, and how it will happen.
SO WHY ARE YOU PEOPLE SO HYPED OVER THIS?
I remember not knowing what the matrix is and being fucking floored.
I remember seeing Pulp Fiction and my mind melting from all the crazy shit going on.
I remember seeing back to the future and saying holy shit, you mean to tell me that my mom has got the hots for me??
this movie doesnt seem to have a great story, great dialogue, or do anything remotely differently from anything we have seen before - its extremely generic- yet because it is SPIDERMAN you guys are screaming like little bitches.
Fuck man. Ive seriously lost all hope for the movie going audiences in America. When not even the nerds can say enough is enough, when the nerds turn into transformer audiences....thats when I know its time to get the fuck out of America and get on some international shit.
because american movies used to be fucking awesome, but now they SUCK and you people are okay with them being the same thing.
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They're still doing the same bullshit where his mask magically comes off in every big fight scene. The scene where the tower is falling looks terrible, as do all the swat team scenes. This looks like exactly what it is, a cheaper remake.
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Feb 07, 2012 3:14:22 AM CST
did not expect much from this film, but have to admit this trailer has peaked my interest a bit
by thatswhatshesaid
Since most people expect this to be terrible and expectations are low like mine, the movie may actually benefit from this. Saw some cool shots in the trailer so maybe there's a slight chance the movie will be ok.
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Feb 07, 2012 3:15:34 AM CST
You seriously think I'm a cop in a skintight red and blue suit? = better Spidey one-liner than all 3 Raimi movies combined
by tallboy6t6
Hey, look, Peter's making jokes. He's supposed to do that, y'know.
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Lizard looks a Lizard, not THE Lizard. I can accept this.
What i don't like is just how dark everything looks, say what you like about Raimi's but at least you could see what was going on.
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Just bought me a ticket to the movie.
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Feb 07, 2012 3:19:52 AM CST
Also, those mirrored eyes on the mask look just as cheesy as they did in the 70's tv show
by chitownsbest
How anyone can look at that trailer and see anything but the fact that sony made a cheap looking movie is crazy. The comparisons to X-Men:First Class are ridiculous. The trailers for First Class made me want to see a movie I thought I would have no interest in. This trailer just made me not want to see another Spidey movie until Marvel regains the rights back.
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Surely I couldn't have been the ONLY person not to have been able to make that out.
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Feb 07, 2012 3:23:01 AM CST
The darkness is a big clue as to how cheap this movie will be
by chitownsbest
Its much easier, and cheaper, to create digital effects with a dark background then it its in a background with light.
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...doing the music for this too!
I'm expecting gold!
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Feb 07, 2012 3:24:36 AM CST
Just like everyone was skeptical of Nolan & a new Batman.....
by riddleman1674
This ain't Schumacker folks! I'll admit, I've been insanely leery of this whole Ultimate Universe/new story telling concept crap, but damn if this gritty realism wasn't just skeeted all over this preview! This could blow serious chunks come July, but if that's the case, these people need to corner the market on movie trailers. This is everything I'm looking for in a Peter Parker tale. And I'm one of those geeks who lived, breathed, eat, and shit Spider-Man all through the 80's and 90's. The Goomba Lizard can be forgiven if this movie isnt bogged down by CGI overkill and lack of characterization. Let's see what Webb can pull out his ass. I'm set for July 2012. This Hater is on standby......
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You still lose...The trailer is loved by most... Go back to your holes and watch Snaggletooth get kidnapped for the third time in SPider-man 3.
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because deep inside he hates the character. FACT!
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IT'S LIKE ROACHES WHEN THE LIGHT'S TURNED ON!
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The trailer kicked all kinds of ass. WISECRACKS, WEBSHOOTERS, LIZARD, SPIDER-AGILITY, KENETIC WEBSLINGING, HOTTIE GWEN, EPIC SCOPE!!! If you love Spider-man, you loved this trailer! Nuff said!
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Everything is in darkness... That's not Spidey. How easily a flashy trailer tricks children. Don't care how catchy the trailer is, doesn't change the fact that Spider-man's costume is shit. Lizard is shit with his dip shit human face. Also seems like they make Connors into a straight villain "You want the truth? Come and get it!" What the fuck does that even mean? Also ruining the origin story by bringing in his parents but obviously not going to make them spies(Since they can't get Red Skull). So of course we find out Osborne killed them when he becomes the Goblin in AS2. Bet any money they chicken out with Gwen Stacey in fear of pissing off the Twilight crowd. Sure was this trailer cooler? Yup. Did it have action? Yes it did. Did it prove this isn't some jump on the darker batman band wagon? NOPE. At least Snyder's Supes will have scenes in the fucking day time. This looks like trash marketed towards the MTV crowd. No thanks. If you back this movie you have no right to hate on the SW prequels, that's just a fact.
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Feb 07, 2012 3:38:02 AM CST
All the action taking place at night reminds me of Daredevil.
by paint163
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That looks a lot beter than the other trailer. I'll go see it. Spiderman is my favorite superhero.
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Feb 07, 2012 3:40:37 AM CST
I got over my initial hate and watched it again and....
by johnathankana
WHAT THE FUCK IT STILL FUCKING SUCKS!
And I put my finger on what I hated the most about this trailer - the shitty spacey minimalistic robo music shit. it sounds CHEAP!!!! the music sounds fucking CHEAP man. like my little brother and his friends got on their dr dre HP beat station laptops and starting fucking around with random sounds while smoking some weed and got bored 20 minutes into and just looped that shit over and over again to clips of dark ass shitty CGI and non dialogue - yea yea the DIALOGUE WHAT THE FUCK
so its like, for some reason I picture dennis leary having most of the dialogue in that trailer and its not even fucking remotely interesting.
then there is one spidey joke, but its not even a fucking joke. its just spidey responding in something that spidey would KINDA say, but never said in the comic because its far too fucking generic. and even then it falls flat because of the seriously generically and sparse "music" playing in and out.
so yea, cheap music, cheap dialogue. cheap dark ass CGI. oh and that means this movie will SUCK in 3D, because as Im sure all of you should know by now when you put on 3D glasses it makes everything darker, right? Ok so imagine watching this dark ass trailer with sunglasses on. you already cant see shit, now you are just blind as fuck. they are raping you for your 15 bucks and you cant even fucking see it happening, fucking morons.
i dont even see any reason why I should happen to LIKE andrew garfield or "peter" or "spiderman" via this trailer. Nothing about the characters or actor himself are speaking to me, there is no reason to care for him, other than us already knowing who spiderman is. There is no "character" there that I felt I wanted to root for.
and that my loser friends is the biggest problem with movies nowadays. Gone are lovable cocky guys like Indiana Jones, or nervous but genuinely good guys like Marty Mcfly, in are mouthy twerps with no real redeeming factors.
we are supposed to like them simply because....they are the main character.
FUCK THAT. and FUCK YOU.
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You mad? lol
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didn't we already see this movie?
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Keep up the damage control you hopeless fuck.
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Feb 07, 2012 3:48:58 AM CST
Oh, goody, I have my own AICN stalker! I feel so honuored!
by tallboy6t6
Here's a pro tip if you're going to make comments about franchises you pretend to be an expert on A) try reading a few Spider-Man comics aside from watching Sam Raimi's movies B) try playing Resident Evil for more than just the first 3 hrs where you're running around the mansion.
Or, y'know, just post a lot in talkbacks and remember crap said months and years ago. That's really healthy.
Seriously, though, read a damn Spider-Man comic or a hundred and then back to me as to what exactly constitutes what goes into a Spider-Man movie, ok cupcake? -
what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
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Feb 07, 2012 3:50:55 AM CST
BEST MOVIE OF SUMMER 2012.FACT.ASM IS GOING TO OWN THE REST GEEK FILMS THIS SUMMER.
by killik
yes,it's true.i am a plant.
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and then they go and fuck-up the Lizard. When in fact it would have been easier to get it right. It's confusing how Hollywood pulls these things off time and again. Other than that it looks fine
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I like most of what I'm seeing in this trailer.
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Feb 07, 2012 3:55:45 AM CST
WOW THE TRAILER IS TOO DARK.IS MY MONITOR'S BRIGHTNESS TOO LOW
by killik
or Hollywood is trying to make a dark version of Spider-Man,ripping off the hugely successful formula of TDK?
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AND HOPE PEOPLE DON'T WATCH THE TRAILER AGAIN.
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Except the shitty man faced Lizard won't be unintentionally funny like Bullseye was. But yeah this looks like a repeat of that. Real dark. Real stupid... Will be in the Walmart "Blu Rays under $10" bin before you know it.
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is he going to fight villains by throwing hairballs at them?
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job done and will shut these fuckers up.
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Feb 07, 2012 4:01:27 AM CST
You mean the NY crowds aren't cornballs yelling GO SPIDEY GO!
by nerd rage
Someone call "SAME" RAIMI!
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Someone call "SAME" RAIMI!
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Feb 07, 2012 4:02:49 AM CST
You mean Spider-man actually uses wisecracks and webshooters this time???
by nerd rage
Someone call "SAME" RAIMI!
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Feb 07, 2012 4:03:49 AM CST
You mean Peter Parker and Spider-man don't have the personality of a BLOCK OF WOOD???
by nerd rage
Someone call "SAME" RAIMI!
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Feb 07, 2012 4:05:34 AM CST
You mean the actors aren't overacting and playing caricatures
by nerd rage
Someone call "SAME" RAIMI!
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Someone call "SAME" RAIMI!
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Someone call "SAME" RAIMI!
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Feb 07, 2012 4:07:30 AM CST
foetus, point out to me all the cgi shots and all the live action.
by talkbacker with no name
If you get more than the obvious ones right, I still won't think you are anything but a bellend for only being interested in being first than reading the article or watching the trailer. You lost all respect for your opinions the moment you acted like such a fucking twat.
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Feb 07, 2012 4:08:21 AM CST
Production Design looks cheap. Like Daredevil('03) cheap.oh and Is his new suit bulletproof? Looks like he gets shot
by ndally
Also Did they change the cinematographer? The last trailer had a different visual aesthic than this one. The color grading doesn't look the same. Although Nothing can beat Bill Pope's work in SM2 this just doesn't look right. Oddly enough I think the web shooters are kind of cool and this is coming from someone who liked the organic web idea. All the bullshit about practical effects was exactly that; bullshit. To be fair a practical spidey would look lame as fuck. You need that CGI acrobatic shit to achieve the slick look of the comics. A dude swinging from wires while the forces of gravity prevent him from doing spidey-esque manoovers would look visually unappealing.
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Someone call "SAME" RAIMI!
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Seems to be integrated throughout the movie, with the villain and climax playing a role, instead of a boring thing we have to plod through in the first act. I'm OK with that.
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Feb 07, 2012 4:10:02 AM CST
Dammit, Sam Raimi still has writing credit for Spider-man 3.
by nerd rage
Can he sue IMDB? His fans hope so!
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This just doesn't do a damn thing for me. The only thing that caught my attention was some apparent bullet dodging by Spidey. I really don't want to hate this, but it just looks lousy. The web shooters are kinda cool, but who really gives a fuck? Web Shooters aren't going to make or break this flick. The wise cracking really came of as forced to me. I don't know... It just ain't doing anything for me.
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Since when is conners a villian??? The lizard and conners have a dr jekyl mr hide relationship. Conners uses science to better man kind and the lizard eats people. Conners hates the lizard and wants nothing but to be rid of him. Two diff personalities. Conners cant control the lizard. Yet here they make it seem like conners himself was behind the death of peters parents. Plus it looks likes conners in the film is embracing the lizard and wants peter dead and obviously knows he is spider man when he challenges peter that if he wants the truth to come and get it. That is not conners. And conners doesnt have a creepy accent also since when does gwen know peter is spider man and why are the webshooters electronic? In comics they are mechanical and dont require Aa batts to operate. It kinda makes it seem like its the suite that makes peter spider man like a g.i. Joe rise of cobra super suite rather than something peter wears to hide his identity. Like he cant be spidey without it . to they guy above i am a spidey fan and im not loving this so go fuck yourself
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Hoping something sticks...Raimi got upstaged by a rookie. Accept it.
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Feb 07, 2012 4:15:36 AM CST
Wow, you need to do some serious mental gymnastics to hate this
by david cloverfield
Just from the trailer it looks like a more coherent story than spidey 1, which I liked. (although the fact that Peter's father figure, power ranger dafoe happened to get superpowes in the same time, completely unrelated to him made him even more ridicolous. At least the lizard's powers are related to spidey's. His parents, his powers, his enemies, his webshooters seem to be one story now, one leading to the other.) spider-man is finally cool, happy to be swinging from the rooftops. i don't really care how much money is thrown at the screen. Also: not one annoying one liner in the trailer. So if you hate this, you were gonna hate it no matter what.
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...and it's gotten worse.
Boy the tone is off in spots. Someone mentioned they thought this was a musical. It plays almost like a 40s MGM musical, gosh darn it!. Leary is lit so bright in scenes like off of TV or a Glee episode or something. His delivery on the lines reeks of over-baked TV. This will start off with a big weekend and then Peter Parker out. Because Garfield seems so lame in this. Perhaps channeling Mickey Rooney ham on wry? Oh, that line on the fire escape! And his and Leary's exchange about Spidey and cops! Like something out of WELCOME BACK KOTTER. The effects look movie big but the Parker family and Gwen family scenes sound and feel like something off of mediocre TV. And Rhys's line delivery! I've been hearing how incredible he was as an actor but man, he brought nothing but a slightly underdone but over-the-top stuff to this role. The uneven feel and tone to the film leads straight to the director. Easy to see why Sony is so worried about it. -
keep flinging shit, foetus...Something will stick eventually...It has to...right?
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Feb 07, 2012 4:21:19 AM CST
As close as this is hewing to Ultimate Richard Parker's "cure for cancer gone wrong..."
by whatthehellhappenedtome
It seems like maybe the Hulk killed Peter's parents.
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Spiderman 1 sucked cos of the crappy Goblin helmet, but Toby M was a great Peter Parker. He exuded dweeb and you really bought that he couldn't quite believe his luck in getting with MJ.
Spiderman 3 sucked because of Venom, and Raimi being sucked into the let's put two villains in the movie syndrome.
Spiderman 2 was ace, one villian, well realised onscreen. And JJJ rocked in all three.
The Amazing Spiderman - Can't buy Garfield as Parker, looks like he has just stepped out of a Twilight Novel, which is why he was cast I suppose. No snout on The Lizard? Shame but I can see the technical reason for not having it. If you are going to have him spouting dialogue it might have been crappy and unconvincing. Supporting cast? Gwen Stacey, meh, could be anyone. Sheen great. Leary great. Sally Field annoys me almost as much as Meryl Streep so no thanks. No JJJ? Mistake.
It doesn't look fantastic but nor does it look terrible. Certainly doesn't suck as bad as Nolan's upcoming abortion's trailer did.
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That would be like making Doctor Octopus a good hearted person...oh wait.
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with his Power Ranger Goblin, corny New
Yorkers, changing Uncle Bens killer, killing
all the villians, using an ugly Mary Jane,
omiting WISECRACKS, omiting the Death of
Gwen Stacy arc, taking away Spider-man
greatest scientific accomplishment/
webshooters, using the kidnaped MJ climax
THREE fucking movies in a row, Parker's
goofy dancing with an emo cut, Vulturess
including, random cookie girl bullshit,
repetitive Mary Jane love rollercoaster,
Green Goblin 2 paintball outfit, awkward
puberty allegory, snaggletooth singing,
Nickelback fan, sorry ass.
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In the comics doc ock was like that until the accident that made him doc ock dipshit. U ever read a spidey comic plus in spidey 2 that is what happens...good natured guy gets in horriable accident, turns on people yet spidey was able to reach the good in him still so he can help him save he day. Plus he sacrifices himself in the process dock ock has a darth vader storyline in spidey 2. "next derp!!!!!!"
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What a loser this film is. While Webb wastes his time promoting his work and undoubtedly has a hit on his hands, foetus rants uncontrollably about how HIS Spider-man film would be better. His UNMADE except in his mind Spider-man film. Rants on an Internet talkback no less. I think I can actually hear Garfield et al tearing up.
Take that, film-making losers! -
That makes you a sucker and a hater.
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And leaving big spaces before one completes a post...
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Everything you've accused nerd rage of doing, you realize you're doing as well, just from the other side of the coin.
Just saying.
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To be honest, and it might be a wee bit nit-picky but the only thing that bothered me about this was the night time settings. Spider-Man isn't a character that only operates at night.
The rest - well, I'll wait and see.
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"derp"
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Long live Dialogue Derps!
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i am soooo sick of super heries without their masks in public....from this trailer dr connners, gwen, and a sawt team see spidey without his mask. Even in avengers cap has his mask off and in iron man 1 and 2 iron man's helmet gets conviently damages so he has to take it off. Say what you will about nolans batman flicks but at least the fucker keeps his mask on and stays in character even around those who know he is bruce wayne when he puts on the suite he is 100% batman
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A fustrated fan-fiction writer? That explains alot. That support group is right next to the greedy Raimi fanboys in room 2B.
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Haters sucking the dick of this movie now. I have been saying since it was announced that this would be the best movie of the summer. I said the same of First Class.
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This looks like shit.
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I'm very picky about parker/spidey being done right, I'll need to see more from this new guy before making up my mind, but so far its been very promising.
couple notes. Leary looks so goblinish in the trailer and his voice is perfect for it, don't tell me he's been miscast.
I already get a sense that they're making this peter actually super genius, and THAT's why he's a good spiderman, not just because he's got powers. I like that. Raimi's movies made Parker's brains an afterthought and he solved most of his problems with his fists and unlimited sperm-webbing.
and lastly keep the jjj from the other movies if possible. who gives a fuck.
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Feb 07, 2012 5:14:33 AM CST
Wondering about all the positive talkbackers at AICN recently?
by wookie_weed
AICN copped a lot of criticism for its overly negative, hate-filled talkbacks last year. The past few weeks, there have been a lot of "this film looks amazing!" and "this film is a masterpiece!" gushing praise from talkbackers no one has seen or heard of before.
That's because many of them are plants. There's a concerted effort recently, by AICN or outside influences, to make the talkbacks have more positive reactions to trailers and news.
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Trash talking yo! He breaks into a rap halfway.
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Feb 07, 2012 5:17:49 AM CST
So you don't think this looks original enough for you?
by hyperdyne-systems-model-120-a2
To those of you complaining this isn't original: gee, ya think? A 50 year old superhero that's been in thousands of comics and cartoons and TV shows and movies and on lunchboxes and t-shirts and underoos since before you were fucking born, and still will be long after you are dead, isn't original? What would we do without these trenchant observations of yours? How do you feel about James Bond dressing in suits and fucking chicks and suavely killing guys in exotic locations? Or Superman wearing a cape and flying around?
It's not about originality - it's about how well yet another set of artists have retold the same old shit. If you liked the old shit, here's some more. If you didn't like it, never mind - going into talkbacks to complain about the lack of originality is like complaining about the lack of datable women in a gay bar. WRONG BAR DOUCHELORD -
I absolutely hate how Peter Parker is now a Good Will Hunting MENSA genius. Who are they targeting this film at, Anonymous and 4chan bronies?
I much prefer the original comics Parker, just an ordinary guy who falls into an extraordinary situation. This "genius rebel without a cause" schtick is overused. -
Feb 07, 2012 5:23:26 AM CST
um Spider-man has been trash talking since before the ninja turtles were invented
by nerd rage
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Finally, the Spider-man I've been waiting for. To see Spidey swing and it look so realistic and not cartoony.
Plus Spidey easily dogding bullets...fucking awesome!
Emma is gorgeous and looks and sounds like a real person and not some snaggletooth, saggy tit little girl playing dress-up!
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Most of them are regulars...Try again.
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Feb 07, 2012 5:29:07 AM CST
Spider-man 4 with the Vulturess would've been better than this?
by nerd rage
Keep telling yourselves that.
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Feb 07, 2012 5:29:26 AM CST
extreme nit pick at 1:44 the bullet hole hits the wall next to the guys head but the guns aimed down
by theinternettheshow.com
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and all he got was an old Nickelback shirt signed by Macy Gray.
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Feb 07, 2012 5:31:46 AM CST
So the implication is that Peter got his powers because of something his parents did to him??
by rebel scumb
That's what I'm taking away from all the 'unravelling the conspiracy' type stuff in it.
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Feb 07, 2012 5:32:37 AM CST
Still not sure what I think of this film, looks better than I was expecting
by rebel scumb
Really not a fan of Garfield in general, thought he was the one weak link in Social Network.
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WEBB'S ASM = CRISTAL
Time for the fanboys to become FANMEN.
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Good or bad it won't be the last. Foetus is funny.
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who can shit web jizz from his arms...I'm glad you people don't write comics.
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I'm hoping it's some sort of horrible frame rate issue with the trailer maybe, because that looked TERRIBLE.
The bit where he's swinging through the city doesn't look 10% as real as Raimi's and by now the CGI should be 1000% better.
Awful.
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Feb 07, 2012 5:44:18 AM CST
So Peter is genetically engineered to become Spider-Man? Sounds a bit like Bruce being engineered by his dad to become Hulk.
by neuromantik
Like in Ang Lee's Hulk.
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just wondering...
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Feb 07, 2012 5:46:41 AM CST
Organic web shooters can get fucked. Even most Raimi fans would agree. Am I right? I'm right.
by neuromantik
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Feb 07, 2012 5:47:55 AM CST
foetus, please paste in a clickable link. I really don't have the energy to click more than once.
by neuromantik
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I do like how dark the movie appears to be. It's not that bright candy-colored Spidey Raimi gave us, and I do enjoy the wide shots of Spidey swinging through town.
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But if they didn't, they'd have to either stick with a load of baggage-settings from the other films (organic webs) or spend too long shoe-horning in exposition to get the audience up to speed with the changes.
I don't think, with a total cast and crew reboot, you really have much choice when coming into an previously established character. You've got to say what you are doing that is different, and the most organic way is the origin story.
Amazing that Burton's Batman got away with it, and in fact, I'd like to watch it again with that in mind, (it seemed less stand-out of a point at the time). Of course Nolan did the origin, but nicely, and again - it was needed, really. -
Feb 07, 2012 5:52:07 AM CST
@ creepythinman: Are you on facebook? I wish to friend you.
by neuromantik
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Never like Maguire's whiny-ass Spiderman. I'm in.
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Feb 07, 2012 6:05:19 AM CST
Has anyone noticed that the Lizard wears a purse?
by hyperdyne-systems-model-120-a2
Seriously, when he's flipping the police van at 1:28.
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The early stuff in the trailer was pretty good, seemed to get a bit generic towards the end. For a reboot that I really didn't want, this doesn't look too bad.
One thing I will say is that Emma Stone should be a much better fit for the series than Kirsten Dunst. Dunst can look hot at times but usually she looks like she's taken half the world's supply of sleeping drugs before arriving on-set. -
Feb 07, 2012 6:22:05 AM CST
wasnt looking forward to this reboot..at all
by oliverplattsgarlicbreath
But i gotta admit that trailer peaked my curiosity. This Looks good and the Lizard looks fine.
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That looks pretty bad ass, I cannot deny that. I'll be there opening night... lol
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WHAT THE HECK???
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Maybe it's just me getting older but I have less hate in my heart for this than I thought. I enjoyed most of the Raimi material, but there was a lot of garbage in his movies. This looks like an interesting, energetic take. The real question is, though, can I wait for the 3D blu or should I go to the theater.
I will smoke and think of this. -
Melancholia. Watch it.
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Feb 07, 2012 6:43:26 AM CST
surprise, surprise, creepythinfuck didn't like it
by talkbacker with no name
awwww
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With great power there must also come—great responsibility!
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I was sold on this the second he made that quip in the car. The Lizard looks fine. Don't know what the complainers are complaining about. Is it because the Lizard isn't wearing the lab coat that he wears in the comic, so therefore he's "wrong" or something? Knitpicker asswipes can take their opinions and stuff it. 100 time better looking than the Rami movies, and I enjoyed most of those.
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What was the point of remaking this? Just to make money? They can have some else's.
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Feb 07, 2012 6:51:12 AM CST
foetus, you keep saying spec script like it means something
by talkbacker with no name
It doesn't. Now either post some of your "amazing" work for us to read or shut the fuck up about it, because I'm willing to bet money this new Spiderman pisses all over it.
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That's all I can say for now.
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I'm getting too old for this.
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When I first saw shots of wirework down an NY street I was a lot more excited. This trailer does less for me than previous one.
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Looks like darker is better in this case huh?
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Looks very promising.
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I stand corrected.
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Feb 07, 2012 7:16:32 AM CST
But can we do something about Garfield's Conan O'Brien haircut?
by jawsfan
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Feb 07, 2012 7:17:07 AM CST
I hope I'm wrong but, it doesn't look special enough...think the definitive Spidey has been done already...
by marineboy
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Feb 07, 2012 7:22:27 AM CST
Goddamn it I'm probably going to see this now..
by chronicallydepressedlemming
Doesn't look as good as spidey 2, but I think it looks better than 1 and 3 turned out to be so far...
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This trailer really sold me on what was otherwise a movie I really had doubts about.
Still not a fan of the The Gumba, I mean Lizard's look, but other than that this looks to have the elements of Spider-Man that Sam Raimi forgot.
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Wander off and die in a fire you fucking douchebag. Seriously. You're taking up vital oxygen the rest of us use. So I say again: Fuck off and die you useless fuck.
Now, again, we have all the usual tards saying this "lacks story". IT'S A FUCKING TRAILER.
Watch the fucking movie and then judge you simpleton fucks.
Raimi's versions were, for the most part, shit. He nailed some things, but destroyed many others. Spiderman 3 was one of the worst, big budget movies I have ever seen, and it destroyed much of the goodwill part 2 built up (despite some serious stupidity in that film).
I'm on board with this and will judge when I see the fucking movie.
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Nobody gives two shits about your most likely imaginary spec script.
You want to talk about scripting so much, here ya go...
Stop using your own purported work to rip on something that is real. If you have a script, give us all a link to a piece of it.
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The costumes come off better on film than those pictures taken made them look..
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Seems like an updated version of the old 70's Spiderman TV series...
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Nobody, and I mean NOBODY gives a shit about anything you could even attempt to call a script.
You're just another talentless fuck who thinks they know what is absolute and "right". No one cares about you, or your "spec" script. Seriously.
So go get into your little Spidey pyjamas and let your mom feed you hot-pockets and breast milk you useless tard.
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Feb 07, 2012 7:31:29 AM CST
Like I've been saying this will be better than Raimi's cheesefest
by monolith_jones
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NO ONE cares about you're "spec" and "bad-ass" script. You are a nothing and you might as well get back behind the friers and contribute to society instead of wasting crayons on a script no one gives a FUCK about.
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and his brilliant handling of Venom.
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Another pointless, Hollywood remake from a merely ok film to begin with. And why do they always miscast the female parts? Kirsten Dunst as Mary Jane; seriously?! And while I like Emma Stone, why cast her as Gwen Stacy? Doesn't make a lick of sense to me.
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I found myself just staring with glazed eyes, almost bored, actually.
I grew up collecting Spider-Man comics for years. From issue #129 all the way into the #225 range. I was such a fan. Love the character.
But this.
I could not care less for this. Seriously.
Just looks... lame.
I think this is going to severely disappoint a lot of fans.
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Feb 07, 2012 7:41:28 AM CST
I admit if this hadn't just been done recently this would look pretty cool...
by theblackvegtable
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He looks infinitely better than that Mighty Morphin Power Goblin piece of shit looked like. Fuck that thing ruined the movie...
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Sure it will do well.
But they did a lot of totally pointless changes to Spidey and his universe.
And that cgi lizard/ and background looks like crap.
I'm going to rent this and maybe i'll enjoy it?
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Sadly, based on the trailer, I think the only thing that's gonna end up undoing this movie is the half-assed retelling of the origin story. As goofy as the redesigned costume appeared to be at first glance, it actually winds up looking MORE like the comic book Spider-Man on film than Raimi's did, and the effects work looks about eighty times more convincing than Raimi's version. Even the Lizard doesn't really bother me (I can see how some giant alligator dude flapping around would kind of look stupid). I understand they can't exactly go back and do Raimi's SPIDER-MAN origin story over again, but this version probably won't play too well. Other than that (and those "Spider-tags" -- it would take him like three hours to actually paint one of those fucking things), I think Webb completely nailed the comic aesthetic.
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the first trailer got me mad for rebooting this when the first two from years ago were pretty friggin good
so the action looks good, the dialog seems ok....BUT...
to say, or to hear from someone saying it's better than The Avengers....pssshhhhhhhh
crazy.
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Ok I'll admit that was a pretty awesome trailer. I was extremely skeptical of this, & though I'm still a little skeptical it's faded a bit. This just reminds me a lot of Ultimate Spiderman which to me just seems like that's what this is.
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Yes this definitely was WAY better than the first trailer.
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Okay well this looks pretty damn...umm...amazing...Spiderman.
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I have no problem with the look of the Lizard. How do you make the comic book look real in this case? A gator snout/mouth would simply go up and down on a hinge and look like a puppet mouth. To give him more expression, they had to make him a little more human looking. Let's thank God for that after the power ranger Green Goblin abomination.
I think it looks pretty strong visually. The story will of course decide it for me. But I'm not shutting this out based on some Rami nostalgia.
Of Rami's films, only 2 holds up over the years. 1 is ok but very fluffy. 3 is a tragedy that correctly cost Rami the right to ever make another Spider-Man movie.
This is going to be a good year for super hero movies. One trilogy ends, one begins here for sure. Plus we get the start of an Avengers franchise that has a lot of long-term potential.
It's a good time to be a geek. Relax and enjoy it. -
Not a gripe or anything just an observation
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I guess Hollywood is taking the downloading thing seriously, question is will more torrent sites fold too? Hope not, taking the wife and 2 kids to even a matinee is a big dent in the wallet. FACT
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But then I laugh everytime someone describes their own script as "unabashedly AMAZING."
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well we got a hulk.
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With the banter and the building of his web shooters it definitely did seem more like the Spiderman I grew reading and loving. I really HOPE this is great Spiderman remains my all time favorite character so I just hope it's GREAT.
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Fuck you. It doesn't have to be a competition. You can like all 3.
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Sony had to make this or they would of lost the rights to Spiderman, this isn't a labour of love and it shows on screen.
Although i'm sure the budget has changed but the budget was announced at $80mil when this was greenlit, $80mil lol, we get romantic comedys with bigger budgets than that these days.
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I'll pass
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Looks more like the Spider-Man I imagined as a kid.
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I would be fucking shocked if you said you liked this. As it stands. Status fucking quo.
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Feb 07, 2012 8:16:00 AM CST
Has a great look. Suprising how Raimi-influenced the look is. Now do away with the retconned origin and parents BS, and just tell as great Spidey story, and you'd have a film that nobody was questioning.
by kevred
You'll notice they pretty much leave out any indication of this being an origin story. Hopefully that means they're not focusing on it. No one wants to spend a half an hour or more going over that stuff again.
This trailer also works hard to cover up changes to the origin and costume. I definitely get the feeling that the marketing department has listened to the complaints.
But are we seeing the real film here, or just a coverup of the stuff they got wrong? Time will tell.
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Didn't everyone complain about Tobey being unmasked so much in Raimi's movies, now it looks like Spidey is spending about 80% of his time unmasked in this.
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Wah wah wah.....I swear comic book nerds are the worst.
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Yeah, nothing really convinced me this is going to be good. Spidey is not Batman. He is actually the complete opposite. Suit looks like shit, Lizard looks terrible and minus some Leary, Sheen and Stone, I am not sold on the cast. Also, no JJJ, I guess they realized no one was going to top Simmons. Its a CGI crapfest with hints of overused hollywood cliches like the umbrellas in the rain and someone looks up. Hellboy used that same fucking scene. Should have brought back Raimi.
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Feb 07, 2012 8:27:12 AM CST
Looks better than I expected though I'm still not a fan of the snoutless Lizard design
by batmancw
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But everything else was so fucking awesome....I think I just got over it!
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Part 2 of a 2-parter versus the Hulk and just an issue before the death of Gwen Stacy.
And this trailer failed to excite me in the way that the trailers for Raimi's first two Spidey movies did so effortlessly. It's not the recasting, the change in direction, the shitty Lizard or the fuck-awful miscasting of Captain Stacy as a Shouty McShout J. Jonah Jameson stand-in. It's the boredom of having the origin - or a stupid-looking variation on it - told all over again.
Peter, after 40 years of reading about it and seeing it, I'm fucking **bored** with your origin. I'm fucking bored with Uncle Ben's death and Aunt May's superhuman ability to dodge coffins for all fucking eternity while telling you to wrap up warm and wear a fucking scarf because it's cold outside. Fucking bored beyond belief. I want you to move on from this tedious shit. But they won't let you, will they? No, we've got to go back to the beginning all over again. Even the comics won't let you move on, not with Doughy Quesada in charge. For fuck's sake.
Will Uncle Ben die yet again in this film, or are they saving that as an unexpected shock for audiences of 'Amazing Spider-Man 2' in a couple of years' time? Or will they threaten to bump off Oscorp's scientific genius (WTF?) Gwen Stacy in the sequel? Nope, I don't actually give much of a shit, to be honest.
I'll give this new attempt at a Spidey series a chance once - or, more likely, **if** - they get past the bits I've already seen versions of multiple times. I doubt they will, though. This reheated shit isn't going to make it as far as a craptastic third entry with 10 superfluous villains.
Oh, goody. James Horner's doing the music? I can't wait to hear that fucking metallic clang-clang shit he's been trotting out for nigh on 30 years now.
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Feb 07, 2012 8:37:13 AM CST
Is Jameson not in this one? Does this take place before he gets a job as a photographer?
by ingeld
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Feb 07, 2012 8:37:22 AM CST
Lizard has the lab coat on first time we see conners. We might see him tear out of it.
by ultratron
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You guys pick some strange shit to obsess over.
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Feb 07, 2012 8:38:58 AM CST
Did his webslingers make that little taser charge sound in the comics? Total bullshit!!!
by ultratron
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*SIGH*... I was REALLY, REALLY hoping that the annoying cliche' of having the super-hero WITHOUT his mask for the final battle would have died with Raimi's Spiderman series. But it is not to be...
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i think it looks much less corny than the raimi films which i like. maybe we will finally get a witty spider-man. also, harry, please don't complain about the no lab coat. who the hell cares? i'm sure there will be some scenes with the lab coat still on. i also understand why they chose not to use the alligator mouth so they could keep him slightly more human and sympathetic.
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Feb 07, 2012 8:41:47 AM CST
Notorious Hater Here: This looks a lot better then I previous thought.
by dr_pepperspray
Honestly, if they get the character's right, they can monkey with the plot points and character design all they want.
I have to say, I really like how this is appears to be more nuanced then Raimi's broad colors.
I'm curious though, those who are saying "No... NO NO NO".. why is that, other then they didn't get the design 100% close to the comic (like bitching about the color of hulks stretchy pants which is obviously the most important thing, right) or that you just hate Andrew Garfield, or miss Sam Raimi, or can't see anyone else under that mask but YOU?
Oh, and the Avengers looks like fucking clown shoes. Not in the least bit interested. Sorry kids, but I like my stories with some fucking gravity to them. The comic "The Ultimates" is still the best attempt at getting a big screen Avengers movie right. -
Or maybe a Lizard in this case. Cool trailer. Feels Spidey.
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Fuck off.
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Dear God…here we go again with the “I created him!” baloney.
Spider-Man did NOT create the Lizard and had absolutely nothing to do with it. Dr. Connors was experimenting in FLORIDA (not New York) on recreating reptilian limb regeneration and decided to test it on himself to the objections of his wife causing HIMSELF to become the “villain” known as The Lizard. Spider-Man heads to Florida to investigate reports of the Lizard and ends up using Connor’s notes to help restore him.
Now, what the hell is wrong with that concept, I have no idea, but apparently there’s generation after generation of moron in Hollywood who think it’s a cool idea to somehow connect the hero and villain so the hero has to repair the damage he (or she) has caused. Great! Only its one of the most cliché concepts out there and should be stopped now.
I like the swinging through the streets, the webbing looks great, the smart ass in the cab...all good stuff. But the Lizard looks ridiculous, doesn't have the trademark labcoat (yeah, yeah...but I like the labcoat), Martin Sheen is not Uncle Ben...to me, he's always gonna be Martin Sheen in a Spider-Man movie and the whole nonsense of connecting the hero & the villain is piss poor, creatively bankrupt crap.
Speaking of "the Lizard", this movie looks more and more like a Marvel-DC crossover film in which Spidey battles Killer Croc.
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Feb 07, 2012 8:44:18 AM CST
I just saw empire strikes back on the big screen and it was utterly ruined by terrible stop motion horribly intercut between live action and full size props.
by ultratron
Seriously it was. If if came out today you would have shit in your seat in disgust. Has an obvious puppet for a main character it for fuck's sake. If anyone ever complains about cg again you're on crack.
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Never had goosebumps or any reason to emotionally invest in Avengers trailers. This, on the other hand, looks like it's got heart.
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Nothing original whatsoever Sam Raimi already made the best SM movie ever in SM2 nothing can come close to that. Andrew Garfield has a horrible voice & is totally miscast as he has zero charisma/chemistry but as he wanted less than the $30m Tobey wanted he got the role!!!
This is just a studio driven merchandise selling event nothing more come July you will all see........
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I'm leaning towards Spider-Man making more because of the female factor. What's the female factor? Women may see this trailer against the Avengers trailer and say "I'll go with my man or take the kids to Spider-Man, I know who Emma Stone is, maybe some relationship/romance content for me too." Women see the Avengers trailer and say(my wife said during the Super Bowl ad) "What's that Iron Man 3? Who is Chris Evans supposed to be, who's that guy with the long blond hair? You can take the kids to that, looks stupid." I'll bet anyone a dollar that this makes more moolah than the Avengers.
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Feb 07, 2012 8:54:57 AM CST
Prediction: It'll have the action we crave but not the drama
by gimpinmypants
I think Amazing Spider-Man will have kickass action scenes, smartass Spidey, all the good stuff. But the Peter Parker stuff is gonna suuuuuuuuck.
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The cop shoots right at 'em. Prob kills him. That's totally a thing, right? Could it be the thief that kills Ben Parker?
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I come on here mostly just to read your posts because they make me laugh my ass off. Cheers.
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This looks good, even if it does have the guy who stole everything from Billy Hicks playing a cop. Denis Leary is a fucking thief and should have just now been getting out of prison. Plus, I'll watch anything with the Illustrious Man in it. He'll find you if you don't.
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Illusive. Illusive. Illusive.
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Feb 07, 2012 9:11:50 AM CST
Of course this won't have the impact of the first Raimi trailer
by monolith_jones
The novelty of a live action spidey swinging through the city is done, now all we need a good film.
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4. No JJJ (minor quibble, I'll get over it)
3. The Suit (sue me)
2. Gwen knowing he's Spider-Man. Gwen is supposed to hate Spider-Man for getting her dad killed.
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It looks pretty decent. I like Garfield and Stone.
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Raimi didn't invent Spiderman. NOTHING Raimi did was "original" except to take a shit all over the character by the 3rd movie, make a laughing stock of one of the best Marvel villains (in the Goblin) and to make Doc Oc a Superman who can take the punches of someone who can lift 10 fucking tonnes.
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Feb 07, 2012 9:18:23 AM CST
lol it's funny to see the tide of opinion turn on this movie
by fat_rancor_keeper
especially here on aicn where this movie has been shat on more than a gas station toilet seat from the 1st time it was announced.
Now it seems the majority are looking forward to seeing the movie or sold.
very interesting.
Anyway - I'm still cautiously optimistic and willing to give it a chance.
Lizard looks like shit though. Needs a snout, needs a white lab coat. Otherwise he's just a killer croc in a spidey movie. -
Feb 07, 2012 9:19:11 AM CST
I'd feel so much better about this if they hadn't replaced an already perfect costume.
by rsanta74
That's really my big gripe. That and his extraordinarily fake New York accent. As a NYer, I can tell you that it really doesn't sound quite right. Its like the first X-Men movie when Jackman's Aussie accent used to slip out. Close, but still sounds fake.
Not too keen on the whole "untold story" angle, especially when they're redoing the origin.
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I agree with the comments that say there is no sense of joy in the same way that came with the anticipation for the first Raimi movie... but it's just not as fresh.
Like the movies or not (I quite like the 2nd, feel the 1st hasn't aged well, and think the third is an awful mess), we got a good-looking Spider-Man that tried very hard to replicate the comic books in many respects (especially the Lee/Romita era).
Some visual missteps (such as the Green Goblin), Raimi presented a lot of respect for the character, his origins, and his look and feel. For those of us who hoped for a Spider-Man movie since we were kids... it was like a dream come true. It was similar to the anticipation for Burton's BATMAN, where people were buying tickets for other movies just to see the trailer.
Now, with 3 SPIDER-MAN movies in about a decade, there's just no way for this to deliver the same level of anticipation. We could get THE DARK KNIGHT of Spider-Man movies, and it wouldn't deliver on that fervent level.
But that doesn't mean it won't be good. It looks good. It looks funny, it looks thoughtful, and it looks like Mark Webb is making a similar effort to replicate certain visuals and textures taken from the source materials.
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Feb 07, 2012 9:22:23 AM CST
THEY STOLE THE TOWER FALLING AT THE END FROM THE MAX PAYNE VIDEO GAME!FACT!!!
by darth_meh
They should be ashamed of themselves.
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I agree with the previous Talk Backer. That's what this seems like to me but they've peaked my interest with this trailer. But yeah they should've left the costume alone. And I can't imagine that wouldn't give JJJ some love.
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So his hair bounces back to Fabio proportions after sweating a mess into that mask. Sure.
I'm sure Paris Hilton will think its HOT.
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That trailer didn't make me feel anything. Didn't like it, didn't dislike it. Is that worse than just outright hating it?
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Feb 07, 2012 9:25:41 AM CST
proevad, Leary only stole the Jerky/Ahole schtick from Hicks
by darth_meh
without picking up the enlightened philosopher aspect which made Hicks great.
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I was already excited about the movie and this looks way better than I expected.
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Feb 07, 2012 9:28:09 AM CST
I, for one, am willing to hate on it instantly due to no lab coat.
by gridlockd
Don't you work in a lab? You need a coat!!
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Okay. I'm in.
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Rubbery and the eyes look like ass. Total ass.
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I still wish they hadn't fucked with the costume so much.
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Feb 07, 2012 9:40:34 AM CST
Raimi's Spider-man's films were just too fucking CORNY, but this didn't impress me either
by aftermath
The Spidey suit is too flashy and the dark eyes are less intimidating. Poor design choice. It's just like difference, between Burton's Batman suit and Nolan's...one gets it right and the other just fucks it up.
Anyway, like I said, Raimi's films felt too corny and family friendly. I like the idea of a darker Spider-man film, but NOT literally, Mr. Webb! It does look like every action piece happens at night...he's not Batman. Shit, throw in some day-time action.
Andrew doesn't look like a Peter Parker. Looks like a reject cast auditioner, from Twilight.
And The Lizard...is it really that tough to give him a snout and a fucking labcoat? Please tell me that not all of the Lizard scenes take place at night.
I will say that the fight\action scenes look decent .
I'm going to see the film, but it does make me mad that Sony wanted to reboot the franchise, so soon and wanting to re-tell or tell this "untold story".
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Feb 07, 2012 9:42:13 AM CST
Looks good. One thing that I want to see is a sidekick for Lizard. They should call him Lil' Lizzy.
by azultool
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Prometheus
The Amazing Spider-Man
The Avengers
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I think your ideas for Spider-Man 3 & 4 are pretty good.....for adult fans. Would be pretty fucked up for kids though, and Spider-Man is really for kids.
I mean, Peter smacking Mary Jane around, people being murdered all over the place, even by Spidey? Fucking abortion? Yeah, that would never fucking fly.
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The Cg of him swinging through the streets still looks shite. I like Garfield and I love Stone, so there's still hope but I am underwhelmed by this trailer!
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Really? Stop trying to defend this movie here. It won't work. Everybody here thinks they can pull off a better movie, but you never see them trying to do so, it's probably because they fear the Sun.
This trailer sucks, Avengers trailer sucks, they all suck except the trailers for Nolan's mediocre Batman movies.
This is by far the most negative website out there... NOTHING is ever good enough. They just can't let go of being butt hurt by other comic/sci-fi movies that were truly bad dealing with characters that they like.
I'm not saying Amazing Spider-Man will best the best comic book movie of 2012, but at least I reserve judgment until I ACTUALLY see it. But I will say one thing, I am much more looking forward to The Avengers and Amazing Spider-Man than I am TDKR. -
I don't get why having the mask off during battle would bother people? The issue with Spidey sometimes is being able to relate emotionally to someone who is entirely masked, so it's just a film convention you're gonna have to get used to. Why do you think they do the half-mask/ half-face reveal in the comics?
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..is that, if I were a 300 pissed-off reptile-human experiment run amok, being pursued by trigger-happy cops and weird arachnoid-human freaks, the first thing I'd be concerning myself with would be maintaining my "classic" wardrobe.
Fucking canon-ites. You're as bad as bible literalists.
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it looks like the same Raimi shit all over again. I can't stand Andrew Garfield's misunderstood nerd character thing that he does either. And for fucks sake Emma Stone doesn't need to be blonde.
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Some sleep would be nice, but I've yet miles to go.
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If you want a character with no mask or one with a different costume, then CREATE A NEW FUCKING CHARACTER.
Instead they pervert and use Spidey-Man just to make money from the retards here who say "Looks like shit but I'll be there the first day". You know you are funding more shit don't you? The only reason they make these is to make money...damn. -
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No wonder he keeps taking it off. That damn costume looks even worse after seeing in action that it did in the stills.
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Feb 07, 2012 10:06:13 AM CST
hahahahahaha!!!!! It's so fucking funny watching a bunch of fucking losers argue over his trailer!!!!!......
by sam jacksons wig
.... go see the movie or don't.
It will still make a large sum of cash, have a sequel greenlit and have most of you sad acts back for more impotent ranting from your fucking armchairs and basements.
the movie industry don't really give a fuck what any of you think. That you haven't gotten that through your thick fucking skulls by now is nothing short of incredible!!!!
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I'm not going to see it. I'm not going to rent it. I'm not going to buy any product with images from this film on it.
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...this talkback has become. Been a long long time since anything remotely true, or even close to funny, has been posted on this thread. I hate you guys. Anyways, that trailer looks rad, Garfield couldn't have been better cast, and the web swinging looks pretty damn fun. Just that little peak looks 100% MORE like the spiderman film I've always envisioned. I'll be there on opening day. And so will you. See ya there
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Feb 07, 2012 10:12:28 AM CST
Looks ok. Can't say I'm particularly psyched over it or anything...
by sardonic
But it doesn't look bad by any means.
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Feb 07, 2012 10:16:21 AM CST
creepythinmanforever- best fucking post in this entire thread!!!!! fact!!!!
by sam jacksons wig
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Feb 07, 2012 10:19:36 AM CST
capngeech - exactly!!!! same useless bunch of fucks bitching about the same stupid shit......
by sam jacksons wig
....that will all still go and see the movie.
Just so they can whine and complain a little bit more over the same shit. -
Feb 07, 2012 10:22:37 AM CST
Looking better, but still hate the story line about Parker's parents
by maxcherry
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working to destroy two plumbers lives.
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Feb 07, 2012 10:23:45 AM CST
To the people who say the action scenes of spiderman swinging from skyscrapers aren't cgi, are full of shit
by maxcherry
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That would explain his latex suit fetish.
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Feb 07, 2012 10:24:46 AM CST
looking better, but the suit is still terrible, and Denis Leary is a fucking rip off artist signed Bill Hicks
by maxcherry
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Feb 07, 2012 10:26:49 AM CST
Wow! Im shocked so much of you are on board for this!?!?!? This seriously looks shitty. All the shots are so dark they belong in a Batman film... Very skeptical, and usually im the optimist! Not liking what I see here at all.... This is what a real Spidey
by stiguy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpgrOgypc9g
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Trailer looks pretty bad ass...this movie just might work after all
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That really bothers me. Far more than Batman in the daylight. It just looks wrong... Fucking Marc Webb, go read a comic!
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Except Spiderman 3... I agree it was awful
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I agree. Completely un-necessary. At least at this point in time. But Ill still see it, im not gonna lie
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Audiences have changed, us fatties are no longer relevant.
I`ve found myself constantly disappointed with modern movie making.
Nothings really crap, but nothings really *Great* either, and i mean truly great in the old sense of the word Great. Not.. `hey dude that movie was great`, `nah man it f`in rocked`.
Enjoyment doesn`t equeal greatness.
I equate this to good. it removes the black and white polar attitude we all love so much..
The best or worst. there`s some grey goo in the middle you know.
And thats todays movies. pretty much middle of the road (especially superhero stuff).
Nice filler while it`s there, gone in a couple of months.
No need to fret.
It`s like a bus, another one will be along in a minute if it dont take you where you want to go.
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I have to stop him, because I made him.
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And I don't expect the Lizard to pull Spidey out in the daylight very often.
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Feb 07, 2012 10:35:36 AM CST
Oh, and Dennis Leary is sooooo fucking wrong in that role! Hate it! Hate it! Hate it!
by stiguy
Yes im whining like a little bitch
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L0vers and H8ters must agree...that is some clichéd shizz.
Teen angst and bully jocks.
I have to stop him, because I made him.
The hero is the bad guy in the eyes of DA LAW.
Another effin' bridge and more glowing sciency stuff.
The only thing missing is the I still believe in heroes line, but I guarantee that'll be paraphrased half a dozen times in there.
Still, some people are bound to be surprised, since expectations have limboed about as low as they can bend. And, it can't possibly end up as stoopid as THE AVENGERS, because, um, nothing could. -
it's H8ers.
The 't' is redundant.
You're welcome! -
Those are HILARIOUS! Praying they include one here.
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Can't see that dude as anything as but Dennis Leary in anything he does, which is fine when they build a show around him like Rescue Me.
But, in a genre pic like this he just takes me right out of the imaginary world they are trying to create. All I think is what is Dennis Leary doing there.
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Pause at 2:06... Iron Man reflection in building glass. The crossover confirmed!!
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Looks AMAZING! I predict it'll be in the company of Superman 1 and 2 (Christopher Reeve), the first Blade, the first Iron Man, Batman(Michael Keaton) and since I already know the Avengers will kick ass.
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How is this any different than Raimi's films, other than they got a new cinematographer?
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looks a lot better than I imagined it would. Hmmmm.
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That said, those who pointed out that it looks like Ben Affleck's Daredevil movie are spot on. It looks like a sequel to that movie, including the questionable CG-in-the-dark work.
As far as how it does, who knows. It probably won't bomb, due to the name recognition, but I can't see this movie setting the world on fire either; the competition is too steep this coming Summer. At best, it does Thor numbers. -
Feb 07, 2012 11:11:20 AM CST
"I just saw empire strikes back on the big screen and it was utterly ruined by terrible stop motion horribly intercut between live action and full size props." by ultratron
by rogueleader66
You sir, are a fucking idiot.
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People like yourself are far worse. The Lizard looks bad! When your main villain looks like a reject from "V" the TV series. SONY and Webb had a chance to really pull out the stops and make this one really bad-ass creature. Instead we get a Goomba looking head for our bad guy. FAIL!!
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Feb 07, 2012 11:13:01 AM CST
Looks good, but Raimi's 4th would have been so much better.
by thefifthcylon
Indeed.
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Why? That's what Spider-Man's costume looks like in the comics, and in the MaGuire movies. They have barely changed a thing.
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Supporters of this film have to attack Raimi. It's very possible to like both! Raimi's films were great, and I would have loved to see the 4th one.
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plus lame lizardvoldemort cant fly.
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Have you seen his "shoes"? I don't recall Spidey having any shoes in any of the comics or cartoons. Do you?
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But man, those effects look just as bad as the ones in Rami's first Spider-Man. It doesn't look like anything is really being added (except backstory about his parents to make him more Batman like), so why the redo????
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It's bullshit that we're getting a reboot (I fucking HATE reboots), but it doesn't look BAD.
It's a good trailer, it just simply sucks that we need to see the same storypoints like the origin rehashed yet again. Been there/done that. Now we're treading water.
Also, Spider-Man 2 is easily one of the best superhero movies ever made. It's going to be near impossible to top Raimi.
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Sally Field, Martin Sheen, Dennis Leary??? Why not go for no names that can act like they did with Raimi's Spider-Man supporting cast? This is starting to look like an Irwin Allen film.
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It's a shame the studio effed him in the a.
No matter how good the new one may be, it won't make as much money as a Raimi 4th would have.
You can already tell be the indifference this film is being met with by the general public.
Still, no matter how poor this does at the box office, I hop Sony commits to this continuity so we don't get another reboot in 2022. Reboots suck balls. -
Feb 07, 2012 11:30:15 AM CST
As somebody pointed out in another talkback, this movie is already a success....
by orbots commander
....just due to its existence.
The whole point behind TAMS is it was Sony's effort to hang on to the Spidey movie rights and merchandising cut of profits, otherwise they go back to Marvel.
The whole effort comes off like the 'licensing deal movie' that it is.
It almost doesn't matter what it makes at the box office; Sony gets to hang on to the Spider-Man rights for, what, almost another decade? -
But why the fuck does every other movie these days have to be about some asshole's parent's secrets? How many of us really have parents that went around doing cool secret shit like this? They tried making Parker more real by making his parents secret agents with a Pulp Fiction briefcase? Why does everything have to have a fucking backstory these days? Christ, quit setting the thing up and just tell the me fuckin' story.
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this looks fantastic! different from the other 3, which is great. i watched the trailer 3 times in a row. definitely on my must watch list this summer now!
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And I liked Maguire just fine
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If you gonna reboot ... ! BE A GRIZZLY ! RAR-RAR !!
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I'm also annoyed that the whole thing seems to take place at night and everything is so darkly lit.
Clue to Marc Webb: Spider-Man isn't Batman, and 'darker' doesn't automatically equal, 'more cool'. -
Since when did Peter Parker become a hazy looking broomstick with a Jew fro? I'm sorry. Everything about this movie is just WRONG. The 'untold story'?! Who do they think they're kidding?! Fail. Sony must be paying a lot of money to bloggers to post this claptrap. Watch the trailer for Raimi's first SM. Then, watch the trailer for this movie. And, Raimi's was made 12 years ago! And, it STILL looks better.
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Feb 07, 2012 11:56:35 AM CST
I'm the last person to say special effects, special effects, special effects
by samuel fulmer
Hopefully these are just unfinished effects shots, because the Spidey swinging around stuff looks just as bad, rubbery, and cartoony as it did in Rami's first film (which it did improve in number 2).
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Spider-Man is the flagship Marvel character and should be in the control of Marvel Studios. This is most likely the last Spidey Sony will make because the film isn't going to do well. It looks like shit in a summer of serious competition the likes I haven't seen since 1982. The rights will revert to Marvel and then we should see return to form for the character. People complain about the "goofball" quality of Raimi's flicks, but I heard a ton of "goofball" shit in that new trailer! "I created him" - whatever. Is this how Parker develops his sense of responsibility. The thing that annoys me above all else is the fact that this is an unnecessary reboot. There was a time when a studio would weigh their options instead of going straight to the reboot. You don't want to deal with Raimi and McGuire? Fine. Recast the roles and hire a new hot director that won't fuck with the costume. No need to start over, even if ya want to give web shooters - just give them to him.
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The screenplay is the important element here, it needs a good story first, I trust the people working on it to deliver the rest.
Say what you will about Raimi's film, but it had a damn solid story, well told, paced and had some clever ways to change up the origin.
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This looks fucking weak. Why exactly is a guy with 1 romantic comedy in his credits directing one of the top 3(?) franchises on the planet? Shit I forgot, because this is a half-assed low budget reboot so the studio can keep the rights to Spiderman.
But I'm confused. Why does this have to be low budget again? Is it because Spiderman films consistently break box office records and rake in over 300 million when directed by a competent director? Why the fuck does this piece of shit even exist?
Ya. I think the direction sucks. The actors are wooden and the stupid dialogue isn't helping either. Since when does Dennis Leary come off as an amateur with no charisma or acting ability? Could it be because the director is a hack?
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If they had to remake Spider Man, I think Jennifer Lawrence would have made a good Gwen Stacy.
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Yes, yes, and YES!
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Since when did NYC turn into Gotham? The NYC I live in is better lit than this movie. Oh, damn. I feel sorry for the suckers who pay to see this in 3D! You know there's gonna be all kinds of old people, 'Eh? What happened, Ethel? I can't see anything with new fangled glasses on! Turn on the lights!'. Bwahahahaha! Seriously, this movie is gonna fail. Hard.
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Dancing, Musical Numbers, terrible goblin costume, terrible venom/eddie brock, sandman uncle ben origin, organic webshooters, raised webbing, crappy gwen stacy story and a truly pathetic Peter...
And with all that, I found a way to enjoy the films on some level...
Now..
I dont like the costume or the lizard design too much, but to complain about a missing lab jacket is retarded...
The tone of the film looks great, the effects look great and the acting looks solid..
I'm not guaranteeing it will be great. but its has alot going for it right now...
I hope this is a great film.
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Feb 07, 2012 12:23:47 PM CST
What? That looks f*&king terrible! What are you guys on? Does he ever wear the f&*king mask? Like only two shots in full costume
by freebeer
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I really like the way he's playing it. Was worried after seeing him be great in GROWN UP roles, I would have a hard time buying him as a high school kid, but I dig it! Feeling good about this movie.
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I'm suppose to be excited cuz he talks some trash? Looks like shit and completely unnecessary to make. Ramai's were the best.
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My one concern: that Spiderman will spend half the movie sans mask, like in the first trilogy
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Was a really huge pile of ass. Fuck that movie. It looks horrible.
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Feb 07, 2012 12:41:05 PM CST
freebeer- 2 minutes of a 2 hour movie and you're complaining about how much he does/doesn't wear the mask???.....
by sam jacksons wig
.... jesus.
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Feb 07, 2012 12:43:13 PM CST
If you think this movie will make less than $300M, let alone TANK!
by wrath_of_fett
Then put down the pipe and turn yourself into the hospital because your brain is sizzling like a fucking egg.
i don't care if they ROYALLY fucked it up, it's still gonna make dumptrucks of money.
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They're out in fucking droves here and I expected nothing less from the one brain cell brigade.
The haters hate because they have nothing left in life and feel it validates their right to exist.
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Seriously? What is this trailer offering that we haven't already seen? Sony wants your money and Sony will get it. Just like George Lucas wants your money and he's going to get it. Fucking sheep.
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Feb 07, 2012 12:52:55 PM CST
Sony marketing drones are feeling defensive it seems.
by orbots commander
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...this film will NOT be better than Rami's Spider-Man.
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Feb 07, 2012 12:55:47 PM CST
Looks much better than expected, and infinitely better than Raimi's films. He's been past it for a long time.
by reflecto
Even the first two Spideys he did felt kind of desperate to me, like a middle-aged guy trying to do his juvenile routine. "Look guys, I'm still the zany fella you loved from the Evil Dead movies!" I don't think he's made a genuinely heartfelt film in ages, and I can't remember the last of his I really LIKED as opposed to just thinking "it was okay" like the first 2 Spideys. And oh God, Drag Me To Hell was crap. This looks solid, and I like the incorporation of the Ultimate origin to keep things fresh. It doesn't just look like a baby boomer coasting on nostalgic memories and VERY BROAD PERFORMANCES.
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Feb 07, 2012 12:58:23 PM CST
This could be good, but I have no intention of watching it...
by bloody fox
And if you give a damn about the state of film you shouldn't see it either. The only way this instant reboot/remake culture is going to stop is if we don't go see the films.
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With those glasses, that hair, and that jew-ishy nose, this kid looks dead up like Mr. Lense Flare. And Lizard looks like he came from the set of the recent V series.
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...... as I have stated before, the movie industry really dont give 2 shits what the audience wants.
All we get is recycled ideas bereft of any originality.
What happens is the curiosity factor kicks in and an individuals need to compare to what has preceeded it.
Movie companies already have a built in fan base for these forays into "safe" movie making. No real risk.
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Feb 07, 2012 1:08:27 PM CST
My imagination or has Emma Stone added about four inches to her bust size.
by cookylamoo
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Feb 07, 2012 1:18:34 PM CST
Now I've seen that, I'm actually looking forward to this
by velvet_sloane
Is it just me, or are we going to receive the polar opposite of Sam Raimi's Spiderman - a cold, harsh, much more real, world?
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...a dance sequence, making the Sandman Uncle Ben's killer instead, an over-over-over-the-top-Venom, Mary Jane kidnapped again (3 for 3 in the Rami movies) and the worst expository dialogue scene that still makes me cringe to this day, the scene where the Osbourne's butler explains how Spider-Man didn't kill Green Power Ranger Goblin-Norman is better than this reboot of Spider Man? Right. Let's not forget that great scene in SM2 on the subway car where they promise not to tell about Spidey losing his mask. You haters baffle me. This movie will make bucketloads.
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Feb 07, 2012 1:23:52 PM CST
Yeah, Emma was definitely rockin a push up/wonderbra this flick
by tallboy6t6
I love the woman but there are some more "special effects" in this movie if y'know what I mean...
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Have you ever read any of the original Spider Man comics? Peter in the those days could easily pass as a jewish teen on his way to day school. The way Ditko drew him, and his nebbishness back then, all they had to do was throw a yamaka on him to complete it. But since comics back then weren't about religion, it's understandable.
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Feb 07, 2012 1:29:10 PM CST
Why do we always have to see these hero's without their masks?
by ccon99
That always irks me when they have to show the actor's face like we don't have the capability to imagine the little emo guy is under that mask.
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It looks competently made but it just doesnt feel like spider-man , it looks like yet another generic ,sub-par, super hero movie .
Heres hoping the film bombs and the film rights revert to back marvel......
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Feb 07, 2012 1:30:51 PM CST
this movie, based on the trailer, looks just fine. Very different from the Raimi movies, which was #1 on the list of importance.
by dahveed1972
I enjoyed much of 1 and most of SM2, but I'm glad this movie will be a true reboot. I was expecting a snout on the Lizard, but I'm actually excited by the new design.
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Feb 07, 2012 1:36:30 PM CST
Who cares about the mask!? Jesus get over it. Same with the lizard snout. Accept the fact that this movie could be good despite not fulfilling all your adolescent comic geek expectations.
by dahveed1972
I was hoping for a snout too, but it doesnt mean that thats the ONLY acceptable design for the Lizard. As long as its unique-looking (not derivative of some other movie monster) and the cgi folks did their job, then great.
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Feb 07, 2012 1:38:36 PM CST
And Emma is lovely young woman, but she doesnt have quite the uh attributes that Dunst had. She looks good in the role tho and should be fine.
by dahveed1972
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They have not given him enough PWESENTS yet.
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Feb 07, 2012 1:43:40 PM CST
I don't need any more origins or Pete's parents' story...
by nice marmot
But count me way interested now. 10 minutes ago I could care less . . .
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Feb 07, 2012 1:43:45 PM CST
Movie looks alright, though they seem to be hiding the Lizard
by korus1234
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but too much action with no mask
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You're like, 'You HATERS are judging this movie, and you haven't even SEEN it, yet!! Blaaaargh!!'. On the other hand, you're like, 'This movie is SO much better than Raimi's!! Garfield is SO much better than TOBY!! Blaaaaargh!!'. Uh. You can't have it both ways. Either you say, 'Let's hold off on judging this till we see it.' (Which is a perfectly reasonable request). Or, you say, 'I've made up my mind, I am going to love this movie; no matter how sh*tty it looks.' You simply CANNOT say, 'This IS better than Raimi's!!'. You don't know. You haven't seen it. I can think of MANY trailers that made a movie look better than it was (Reign of Fire, I'm looking @ you). I can think of trailers that SUCKED, but the final product was GREAT (I'm looking @ you, XMen: First Class). So, judging a movie on a trailer is pointless. I HAVE made up my mind, and it's based entirely on the business decisions of the suits @ Sony. Raimi gave Sony, by far, their biggest and most successful (critically and commercially; yes, critically. Look at contemporary critics of the first 2 films. They were over the moon for the movies. A LOT of people were.). Then, after Sony FORCED (look it up) Raimi to include Venom in SM3. Which gave people the sense that SM3 was overstuffed (thus, creating the backlash). However, SM3 was HUGELY successful ($900m worldwide; 3.25 x it's budget.). Then, Sony got greedy. Didn't want to pay for their more successful franchise. They just wanted the money. So, they fire Raimi. Hire a cheapo director. Hire cheapo actors. Give it some 'dark', 'edgy' veneer. Then, pay tons of money to soil Raimi's name (look it up). And, give tons of schwag to movie sites, so they give your scab production (yes, scab) positive reviews. It's a sickly cash grab. I don't care how JOKEY this 'SpiderTween' is. It's still a cash grab by Sony. And, Garfield looks dumb. Sorry, he does. I will allow anyone their thoughts about a film. But, don't sit here and scream at people who don't share your 'enthusiasm'. The film does look cheap. And, Sony DID act like a bunch of a holes. I'll never forgive them for it. And, a lot of others won't either. Now get back to work, Plants. Sony won't give you schwag if you don't keep pimping their trash.
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too young and he doesn't carry that moral gravitas.
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Feb 07, 2012 1:51:02 PM CST
Remember last summer when Green Lantern was all bright and shiney and the pointless Planet of the Apes trailer was hated.....It'll be the same this year, Avengers will be ass and Spider Man will be the surprise....
by drstrangerlove
.....But TDKR will own 2012.
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Feb 07, 2012 1:51:12 PM CST
Andrew Garfield is Jewish. It doesn't matter that he's a shitty Spider Man/Peter Parker. You people still don't get that Hollywood is run by Jews and putting their own kind in movies > proper casting.
by shamelesselitist
That is all.
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Moreso than I expected. I hope it's great. I want all comic movies to be great. So that I can chew them like candy.
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Feb 07, 2012 1:52:12 PM CST
Here's a good shot of the lizard I haven't seen anywhere else yet:
by wrath_of_fett
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Feb 07, 2012 1:52:20 PM CST
http://www.sneakpeek.ca/2012/01/lizard-toys-with-amazing-spider-man.html
by wrath_of_fett
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I was condemning this film up until ten minutes ago, but this trailer has made me take notice.
Negatives
However the costume still sucks.
Peter is meant to be nerdy in high school. Garfield doesn't seem particularly nerdy from this trailer. I'm not really seeing any chemistry between Garfield and Stone either though maybe the film will improve it.
Spider-man would never sit in a car and chat to a car thief. It completely negates his main advantage (his agility). What if that criminal turned round and shot at him, where could he possibly dodge to he would have no space to move around.
More scenes with Spidey without his mask after all the criticism in the previous films....
Positives
Wisecracks are in (thats a good thing)
Peter is building gadgets. As well as the web-shooters I think that was a Spider-tracer we saw in the trailer???
Action looks good, and seems that there will be more shown of Spider-man than Peter Parker.
I really like the Spider-man being a fugitive from the Police plot, and it does seem to be a major plot point. I would have loved to see a full movie based around it.
Sadly I fear that this movie is going to be diluted by too many plots just like Spider-man 3. Let's count them (Lizards origin, Spider-man's origin, Romance sub-plot, Police hunting Spider-man, Peter learning about his parents). Captain Stacy made me really interested in this film -
Maybe it's just me but I didn't see anything new here. Sure, new actors, new suit, new villain but -- nothing NEW. It's going to take a bit more than a few wisecracks and Emma Stone to get my money.
Not gonna hate but this isn't on my list of 'must see' movies for the summer.
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Feb 07, 2012 1:56:20 PM CST
I think it's funny how some people have like, Jihads over Raimi getting fired or something
by tallboy6t6
I kinda wish the people who are having text-brain-aneurysms as they froth at the mouth that "OMG! THIS IS ABOUT MONEYZ!!!!!!"
It's a superhero franchise. Do you think any sort of superhero movie ever made in the history of anything was about artistic integrity or money?
Raimi got fired because people really didn't like Spider-Man 3, Spider-Man 3 was the most expensive movie ever made when it really didn't need to be, and they all wanted a crazy increase in salaries for Spider-Man 4 which they did not deserve. And it had the Vulturess. So he got the boot.
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Feb 07, 2012 1:56:32 PM CST
drstrangelove, no actually GL and Apes panned out as expected
by wrath_of_fett
From teh very beginning there was trepidation about Ryan playing Hal and the special effects were chief among complaints. Personally i thought Ryan did a pretty good job but he did not play the character as earnestly as he is in comics. Strangely the main problem with the film is that it's too dark and semi-disgusting. I don't think we saw that coming.
I think we all loved Apes as soon as we saw the first trailer and everything we kept seeing made it look better and better. Of course the real charm of that film is Serkis' Caesar. John Lithgow also did a phenominal job with the little screentime he had. -
Feb 07, 2012 1:58:21 PM CST
Never seen so many plants, this thread feels like a jungle!
by flynn-lives
In the meantime, I honestly think that Parker is miscast (others will say he is cast for the target audience, which obviously is the one that was too young to watch the Raimi editions), this trailer doesn't show me anything different, all together feels like a teenage nerdy Spidey with issues, no balls, he almost cries at every shot in the trailer.
One day, we'll have a darker Spiderman, with an adult Peter Parker, tough and cynical, just the way he should be. Give it to Nolan or any director with brain and vision.
Oh, and fuck you plants, you're so obvious it's pathetic. -
Spidertween Parker looks dumb, overacts, has the charisma of a penguin, and no screen presence.
Now let the Plants be Plants... -
Feb 07, 2012 2:05:16 PM CST
Spidey is in no danger in that scene. He could (if he wanted to) put a fist through the guys head before he even got the gun up. And he can indeed dodge bullets at close range.
by dahveed1972
Were talking some average non-powered human. See im a nerd!
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'Haven't watched the trailer yet, but wanted to remind everyone that even though LATER comics had both the lab coat AND the gator teeth and jaws, the actual physicality of the lizard based on the first artwork released is closer to the original Ditko design. Get one of the Spider-Man collections and look at the cover for the Lizard's first appearance. Yeah, the lab coat is missed, but Ditko's original lizard did not have really big teeth or jaws.
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Feb 07, 2012 2:29:49 PM CST
Still a little unsure of the dark tone, but everything else looked excellent.
by mr nicholas
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THIS MOVIE LOOKS GAY
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I don't know what the hell this is, but it sure ain't the Spider-man I know from the comics. So it will probably be a big hit with those who don't know any better
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can't wait! hopefully garfield is a much better
peter parker/spiderman than tobey maguire was. at least andrew gsrfield actually looks like peter -
from the 3rd movie.
How fucking narrow minded can you be when you purposely decide to ignore the two previous films because you want to like the reboot more. It's no different than what happened to the X-Men. After the 3d movie, all of a sudden the franchise was considered horrible by nerds. Talk about a short attention span.
Oh, and the CGI in this trailer looks awful. If you're seriously complaining about the CG in Raimis but find this new trailer "fine", than you're more delusional than I though. -
Super Green Talkback. Almost one in five posts. Love how obvious the green is these days.
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IMAX 3D? REALD 3D?
yep, flop written all over this -
I'd really like to wager with someone here. If this piece of trash breaks $200m domestically, I'll eat my hat. Yet, every single one of Raimi's broke $300m domestically ($850m worldwide). Making it one of the MOST successful film trilogies in the world. This one won't even break $200m. Is that a good business move, Sony? What are you looking at me for, Plants. Go ask your Sony overlords.
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How defuck do you screw up The Lizard?
I mean it is probably one of the most basic designs of all Spidey's villains.
He looks like the Snake Man from Ssssssss. -
although the city looks bright and beautiful and I like Garfield's Spidey voice... this looks very pointless (except to keep the rights)
I find it really stupid that a company who created something, cant even have control of their property, even if someone is renting it... damn you Fox and Sony for not letting us having a real Marvel universe...
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..yet she thought the AVENGERS looked "stupid"??
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I imagine they applied something like vaseline, maybe(?), so the costume would photograph better during the night scenes.
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well don't set the bar TOO low or anything
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1. Girl has a veery nice rack.
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On the lowest end of the spectrum, this movie makes 500 million total worldwide, comparable to X-Men: First Class. And this will probably make a lot more money than First Class.
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I went to that Spider-Man event in los angeles, and frankly i was blown away. This movie, marc webb's vision looks like it was done with a great love for the character and i see NOTHING to complain about. this could be one of the best superhero films ever. They really got Spidey right and that costume sure looks pretty good in motion. I just don't understand what some of you could have possibly wanted that looks better than this on a trailer. I really don't give a fuck how the lizard looks. what will the performance be like? looks to me like they've got it right so far. Whatever changes they have to make to tell this story, go for it. I'm intrigued. Also i thought it was cool when Garfield said that it was an honor to play spider-Man, and he mentioned Toby Maguire then added that he hoped that the next take on spider-man would cast a half -black, half-latino actor. I'm definitely in line for this one
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Doesn't look like the colorful, teenage-angst driven comic drama that the title AMAZING SPIDER MAN suggests it would be.
Huge Spidey fan but this does nothing for me. This looks like it is trying to ape Raimi's style, not deviate from it. ASM looks MEH. -
for those who hate Raimi's SM, to those who loved Raimi's SM, to those who like this trailer, to those who bring Nolan for whatever reason...
this is the start of the Civil War...
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If you call that an increased bust size, I'd hate to see your idea of a decreased bust size. Those looked fucking tiny! I was expecting to see a pair of Cs, but no luck... still a pair of cherries.
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etc.
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Now fix the costume, dammit.
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Feb 07, 2012 3:36:08 PM CST
Garfield's Spider-Man voice sounds like Casey Jones from TMNT - the first live action movie.
by iamnicksaicnsn
That's what I think. That sort of New York swagger thing. I enjoy it. Especially after making that realization.
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Is because they only deceive you if you're gay.
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Because now we can laugh when they drop a chimney on him.
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:) end of story.
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Feb 07, 2012 3:47:54 PM CST
Raimi defenders = "he made Evil Dead!" Who cares? It was a long time ago and his Spidey movies were a little too bland for me.
by reflecto
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He looks like a snake not a lizard.
Both are reptiles, but two different species.
He looks nothing like the original character design, nor any of its various incarnations.
Obviously, I'm not the only one who feels this way.
I mean look at this toy and tell me you as a kid would be excited to get this.
http://manscreed.com/new-toy-reveals-what-the-lizard-will-look-like-in-the-amazing-spider-man/
I actually, had the original Lizard action figure growing up with lab coat, torn purple pants, plush tale and, yes, a lizard snout. -
I loved all3 Spiderman movies, especially part 3.
I will miss the Evil Dead style action but Raimi has other stories to tell.
I like 500 Days of Summer when I finally saw it because I had no interest initially.
Comics have always rebooted themselves, every time the artist and storyline changes it feels like a reboot.
I have no problem with continuous reboots, but we need to lay off the origin retellings.
Batman Begins proved how nice it was to get Batman's origin, Batman proved we didn't need it.
And in all honesty, as good as Batman Begins was, and as much as I like the Nolan movies, they still didn't get the origin right. They implied Bruce already had some training but that the League of Shadows really tightened his skills. There is room for improvement there so I could eventually go for another Batman origin story. -
Feb 07, 2012 3:56:23 PM CST
Or if Sony keeps the Daredevil rights we should just segway into a team up movie.
by jackslater4
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seriously. if you're so confident in this new movie, why do you have to defend it so much? if everyone was getting the same great *joy* out of this trailer as you guys, there'd be no discussion. we'd all be happy. but, we're not. this trailer looks like sh*t, sony is a bunch of a holes in suits. end of story. so sowwy.
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Feb 07, 2012 4:00:42 PM CST
Probably would have been hard to animate Lizards lips during speech if designed like the comics.
by jackslater4
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True. But even Ditko's version of the head was better. The eyes were more spread apart. There was a small muzzle where the nostrils were also more spread apart making him look less human.
This Ditko observation would suffice if the rest of his body matched the Ditko version - but it doesn't. The legs don't match. The feet. The claws. Even the stance which makes him look way more like a creature stalking than a human. But you give him a human head? WTF!!
It would also be fine if the rest of the movie looked like it did back in 1960's - but it doesn't. It's all up to date and modern. So why can't The Lizard's head be too?
The Lizard is all about losing humanity and letting the animal inside take over. Keeping his "humanoid" like face doesn't help do that. It doesn't make The Lizard look like a bad ass foil for Spider-Man. It makes him look stupid. The design of the body does not match the head or the animation of his body.
I'll play devil's advocate and wait for the final film - but seeing some of the climax of the film in the trailer - and seeing that The Lizard's head still look humanoid - is just a bad artistic decision IMO. -
I do own a job in the industry loser. And THE LIZARD sucks like you!!
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Feb 07, 2012 4:05:57 PM CST
Looks like a pilot for a Spiderman CW T.V series. Pass. Looks cheap and pointless
by freebeer
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FACT.
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Nope. I'm with you 100% on this. The Lizard is a really bad design in this film. Most of the comics did a way better job. All of the animated shows did a way better job. I'm upset by it because I've been a Spidey fan since the 70's and always wanted a movie to focus on THE LIZARD. And this is what we get? Something with a GOOMBA head?
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um. Fabulous. I look forward to spending my money on something else this summer.
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http://www.samruby.com/AmazingSpider-ManA/Large/AmazingSpider-Man006.jpg
This cover says it all. They changed the design more back to the original...I'll wait to judge the film when I see it. Love it or hate it I'll at least see it when it comes out. -
Feb 07, 2012 4:25:36 PM CST
It looks good, except for one thing, why is his mask always off?
by yamato
I really hated that about the Rami movies. If they want to show his face pull an Iron Man and show his face "under" the mask.
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Despite the altered origin story and the change of The Lizard's appearance, I still feel that this is closer to the Spider-Man that I grew up with. We have a Spidey who doesn't mumble and who isn't moping about the whole time. I like the fact that he wise-cracks, I also like the fact that they play on the concept of being an intelligent scientific mind (much like he was in the comics) The Costume works well on screen and the action-beats look like they may be quite visceral. I like the fact that the movie actually looks like it takes place in New york City. New York is not all bright and shiny, some areas are quite grimy and ill lit and this showcases that aspect.
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Feb 07, 2012 4:31:50 PM CST
This movie looks like shit. nerd rage is a plant. CW pilot, indeed. Looks like that Smallville garbage.
by bat725
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Because I sure as hell don't. I've heard more people comment on him being a 'hipster' than just about anything else besides the Lizard design. Wearing a hoodie and listening to The Ramones makes you a "hipster?" What year were you born, 1942?
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Feb 07, 2012 4:33:41 PM CST
Sony figured it out. Turn Off the Dark is making money. So will this steaming pile of shit.
by bat725
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the costume is terrible, the chick playing Gwen isn't that interesting, the guy playing Peter Parker looks like a total putz, and why in the fuck is Dennis Leary in this?
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Hipsters are a subculture of men and women typically in their 20's and 30's that value independent thinking, counter-culture, progressive politics, an appreciation of art and indie-rock, creativity, intelligence, and witty banter. The greatest concentrations of hipsters can be found living in the Williamsburg, Wicker Park, and Mission District neighborhoods of major cosmopolitan centers such as New York, Chicago, and San Francisco respectively. Although "hipsterism" is really a state of mind,it is also often intertwined with distinct fashion sensibilities. Hipsters reject the culturally-ignorant attitudes of mainstream consumers, and are often be seen wearing vintage and thrift store inspired fashions, tight-fitting jeans, old-school sneakers, and sometimes thick rimmed glasses. Both hipster men and women sport similar androgynous hair styles that include combinations of messy shag cuts and asymmetric side-swept bangs. Such styles are often associated with the work of creative stylists at urban salons, and are usually too "edgy" for the culturally-sheltered mainstream consumer. The "effortless cool" urban bohemian look of a hipster is exemplified in Urban Outfitters and American Apparel ads which cater towards the hipster demographic. Despite misconceptions based on their aesthetic tastes, hipsters tend to be well educated and often have liberal arts degrees, or degrees in maths and sciences, which also require certain creative analytical thinking abilities. Consequently many hipsters tend to have jobs in the music, art, and fashion industries. It is a myth that most hipsters are unemployed and live off of their parent's trust funds.
Hipsters shun mainstream societal conventions that apply to dating preferences and traditional "rules" of physical attraction. It is part of the hipster central dogma not to be influenced by mainsream advertising and media, which tends to only promote ethnocentric ideals of beauty. The concepts of androgyny and feminism have influenced hipster culture, where hipster men are often as thin as the women they date. The muscular and athletic all-American male ideal is not seen as attractive by confident and culturally-empowered hipster women who instead view them as symbols of male oppression, sexism, and misogyny. Likewise, culturally-vapid sorority-type girls with fake blond hair, overly tanned skin, and "Britney Spears tube-tops" are not seen as attractive by cultured hipster males who instead see them as symbols of female insecurity, low self-esteem, and lack of cultural intelligence and independent thinking. Hipsters are also very racially open-minded, and the greatest number of interracial couples in any urban environment are typically found within the hipster subculture.
Although hipsters are technically conformists within their own subculture, in comparison to the much larger mainstream mass, they are pioneers and leaders of the latest cultural trends and ideals. For example, the surge of jeans made to look old and worn (i.e. "distressed"), that have become prevalent at stores such as The Gap, American Eagle, Abercrombie and Fitch, and Hollister, were originally paraded by hipsters who shopped in thrift stores years before such clothing items were mass produced and sold to the mainstream consumer. The true irony here is that many of the detractors of hipster culture are in fact unknowingly following a path that hipsters have carved out years before them. This phenomena also applies to music as well, as many bands have become successful and known to mainstream audiences only because hipsters first found and listened to them as early-adopters of new culture. Once certain concepts of fashion and music have reached mainstream audiences, hipsters move on to something new and improved.
Because of the rise of various online photo-blog and social networking sites, insights into urban hipster culture is reaching sheltered suburban audiences at an exponential rate. Cultural "norms" have been deconstructed by hipster culture as a whole. Hipsterism is often dismissed as just an image thing by some, but the culture as a whole is effecting changes in society, leading to feelings of insecurity and resentment in people who are no longer a part of the cultural ruling class. For example, a lot of anti-hipster sentiment evidently comes from culturally-clueless suburban frat boy types who feel that the more sensitive, intelligent, and culturally aware hipster ideal threatens their insecure sense of masculinity. Anti-hipster sentiment often comes from people who simply can't keep up with social change and are envious of those who can. -
They got spiders humor right and the tone feels more like the comics. Not even a huge spiderman fan and even I can tell that. Fuck off haters.
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Feb 07, 2012 4:38:22 PM CST
And I didn't realize how much of a hipster the new Spiderman really is until I posted that definition.
by jackslater4
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My largest concern is the emphasis on retelling the origin. I get the "Untold story" thing, and how the marketing revolves around that. But there still seems to be a lot of carry-over from Raimi's origin... seeing him fight Flash in the hallway, up against a locker, is going to warrant an eye-roll.
But I'm digging everything else. The suit looks cool in motion. The web-swinging and hand-to-hand combat looks kinetic and high octane. The quips we hear in the trailer are spot-on. Love the chemistry between Garfield and Stone, and it looks like the supporting cast has a chance to really shine... Leary and Ifans especially, were outside-the-box choices that now seem like no-brainers.
I'm definitely getting a "Batman Begins" vibe throughout the thing. Not necessarily in tone, but in the way its delving into an otherwise unexplored part of the character's backstory(Bruce's training=/=Peter's parents disappearing), using a lesser-known baddie as the principal villain, setting up a love story where the damsel loves the man and not the hero, etc. If this movie can manage to be 75% as good as 'Begins,' I'll be happy.
Because then Webb can give us his "Dark Knight," hopefully. Completely unrestrained by the confines of establishing the new mythos, and free to bust out Norman, Harry, JJJ, Gwen on the bridge, etc. -
I still really have no idea what that means, but I at least appreciate the insight.
I wear thrift store hoodies and old sneakers. Is it because I'm a hipster? No, its because I'm fucking broke. I'm kind of thinking thats how Peter is going to be in this new movie, too.
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I mean give me a break. All totaled the actor spends a total of about 15 minutes of the overall run-time of one of these type films in full super hero character. 1hr 45min, give or take, of face time isn't enough to satiate our precious little thespians' egoes. It's starting to become quite the irritatingly lame comic book movie trope.
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Feb 07, 2012 5:09:14 PM CST
He's not a teenager in the sixties. This is what kids wear.
by monolith_jones
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I hope Penguin shows up too!
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Feb 07, 2012 5:49:53 PM CST
After watching that, I know EXACTLY how it will start, how it will play out and how it will end...
by remcycle
...and I'm not impressed at all.
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If Peter Parker is a boy genius, why in the fuck is he in high school and not college? I read stories about real genius kids who are 12 and working on their PHDs. If Parker is so fucking advanced as a teenager and makes hi-tech equipment WHY IN THE FUCK IS HE IN HIGH SCHOOL? Why isn't he working for the fucking military or running his own lab company like OSCORP? And where in the fuck does he get his money to make all this shit.
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Feb 07, 2012 6:05:40 PM CST
Haters of this trailer coming across like ignorant beyotches!
by matthewschlotman
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anyone know ?
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What a bunch of soulless fanboy plants who keep extolling the virtues of a movie they have never seen. What are they paying you these days for your worthless opinion?
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It really comes down to not wanting to pay Raimi and crew what they're worth and initiating a competing project without notice to the principal players. Even if this turns out to be a great movie, it's still got a seriously shitty stigma to it. I'm not down with it, and I never have been. I do not find any vengeful pleasure in the fact that it looks like a huge steaming pile, but I do want vindication for Raimi. The guy has been a favorite of mine for a long, long time. I put him at the same level as his buddies, the Coen Bros. Watch "A Simple Plan" again - what a great fucking movie. And I will defend Raimi's Spidey films because they work so well as movies and they are damn fun. Hell, Raimi has always been a damn fanboy favorite, but the young ones have turned on him or never realized how awesome he really is.
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This was posted by @wrx - "Also i thought it was cool when Garfield said that it was an honor to play spider-Man, and he mentioned Toby Maguire then added that he hoped that the next take on spider-man would cast a half -black, half-latino actor. I'm definitely in line for this one" --- WTF! What a bunch of crap. I hope that the next Spider-Man is half-black, half-latino??? Who says shit like that? Where does that even come from??? A PR Rep is where it fucking comes from. A PR Rep that picked up a recent copy of Ultimate Spider-Man.
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Feb 07, 2012 6:42:05 PM CST
Doesn't all that fucking hair get in the way under that mask?
by jon-snow-dies
Seems like it would make the mask puff up in places too. Can't find a Fantastic Sam's while you're swinging around in the city?
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Feb 07, 2012 6:44:51 PM CST
...and why does the suit look like he's rolled around in ashtrays for a week?
by jon-snow-dies
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Feb 07, 2012 6:46:21 PM CST
...and since when are crocodiles scary? Spiders are scary. Why not make a villain called Spiderman?
by jon-snow-dies
You know. One who actually looks like a spider.
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That trailer blew donkey balls and you all know it.
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Feb 07, 2012 6:47:55 PM CST
Oh wait. My bad. It's not a crocodile. It's a lizard. Shiver me timbers.
by jon-snow-dies
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-how'd you get up here
-fire escape
- its 20 stories
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i hear "didn't get any." -
also heard...
the door man quit eating.
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Seems like he's without a mask for about 80% of that trailer. At least that was my initial reaction. Looks like it could be good, though not..... amazing.
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Everyone's a boring lout. (That would automatically include me—difference being: I don't give a fuck.)
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First off... looks promising, HOWEVER I'll buy that he can stick through his suit if his feet are covered by a thin layer of breathable material (maybe microhairs like Spiderman 2099 comic) but not through a pair of thick rubber-soled sneakers. They do such a good job designing awesome thin high-tensile webbing (unlike Raimi's stupid industrial cable spider-trampoline in the park), and then blow it with that oversight. Gah! And I'm glad Lizard can actually get hit and feel it - in Raimi's you can apparently punch Doc Oc in the face several times and neither break his sunglasses nor a tooth.
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is intimidating.
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Feb 07, 2012 7:03:19 PM CST
What is a Hipster? I think this will answer that question...
by conspiracy
http://tinyurl.com/7rawjyc
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Weird intonation or something for me. I did NOT hear that to begin with.
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Feb 07, 2012 7:08:38 PM CST
If you listened to Arcade Fire when Funeral came out--you are not a hipster.
by jon-snow-dies
If you love them now that they are famous, you are a hipster. Think that's how that works.
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..suggested hipsters listened to the decemberists. i would've thought animal collective??
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keep it up please. ahem.
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and I have no idea what that is. I like the Decemberists too though, so maybe I'm just a fairy.
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Feb 07, 2012 7:15:00 PM CST
Surekillshot: "Your doorman's intimidating."
by marcel_the_negro_projectionist
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capt stacy?
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Why do my last two girlfriends both look like ducks every time they take a picture now? That a hip thing to do--look like a duck when you pose? They both looked kindof fowl to begin with, but the duckface thing really accentuates it.
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Leary's always fun to watch.
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Not that I can remember anyway.
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Power Rangers Green Goblin
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I think this will be a lot better than the Raimi films.
Not too fond of what they done, with the Lizard, Including the casting, but the rest looks solid. Glad the quips are in. Pretty much a defining characteristic of Spiderman.
The mask coming off thing did bother me in Raimi's films, but after seeing it in this trailer and not being so bothered by it, I think I'm finally realising that the reason it bothered me was because Tobey MacGuire was so fucking awefully miscast in those films, that when the mask came off I couldn't see him as Spiderman anymore, just some slow pathetic moronic dweeb wearing a spiderman suit. Whereas Garfield here, does actually seem like a believable Peter Parker, and certainly looks and moves more like the character.
By the way whatever asshole that said that everybody's examples of things wrong with the original trilogy all came from the third flick, well 4 four words for you:-
Power Rangers Green Goblin.
I think that's something everybody can agree was a bad idea.
But if you really want to get a bit deeper into what was wrong with Raimi's Spiderman. I'll give you a great example from the movie so many of you try to elevate to a perfect level, when it's nothing of the sort:-
Spiderman 2. When Peter's been losing his powers, he sees an old man getting beaten up by some youths and he SLINKS away, without even trying to intervene, like a total fucking coward. Which to me demonstrates a major misunderstanding of the character by Raimi. The Spidey of the comics and cartoons has lost his powers on many, many occasions and still went up against SUPER POWERED villains, using his smarts and bravery to defeat them. But Raimi and Tobey's Parker just shambles away, from a few youths, because boo hoo, he's lost his powers?!? After what happened to his Uncle Ben, there's no way Peter would let something like that happen again. He would intervene, even if it meant he got a total kicking.
I mean jeez, even when he has got his powers he's took on the likes of cosmic powered characters like Firelord and Thanos and even the likes of the Juggernaut or the Hulk who way overpower him.
I've mentioned this on a couple of talkbacks, and of course there's never been a hater yet who's been able to justify this scene. Raimi made the character a fucking coward. And that was what was unforgivable about those films. Nuff said! -
Feb 07, 2012 7:40:41 PM CST
the special effects are terrible for the new york skyline, the cgi is shitty and the miniatures are screaming that their minatures...
by maxcherry
seriously it's two thousand fucking twelve and they can't get more realistic miniature shots than the original superman movies, EPIC FAIL!!!
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The Lizard sucks retard. get over it and your sad 9 to 5 desk job you have in the basement everyday. You only wish you were as cool.
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Feb 07, 2012 7:44:28 PM CST
@steverodgers5, Garfield is no Peter Parker, Peter Parker isn't anorexic...
by maxcherry
that being said Garfield is a great actor, just a bad choice for Spiderman. Tobey Macguire was perfect casting, and he nailed the Spiderman/Peter Parker character perfectly.
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Feb 07, 2012 7:49:26 PM CST
@steverodgers5, seems you are having trouble understanding that scene…..
by maxcherry
in Spiderman 2, Peter Parker was getting tired of being Spiderman and wanted to concentrate on college and Mary Jane Watson. That's the reason for that scene and plot point. His normal life of Peter Parker was so chaotic because he was trying to be every where at every time to save the day as Spiderman. If you couldn't understand that plot point, then you must miss a lot of plot points in any movie you watch.
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Feb 07, 2012 7:52:21 PM CST
That actually doesn't look too bad. I still have absolutely no desire to see it, however.
by neonfrisbee
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Too soon for a reboot. Doesn't look bad though, but there's no way I can get excited about this.
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Hate when they pull the mask off the superhero so you can see the actor. I dont want to see the actor, I want to see spidey fuck!
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Feb 07, 2012 8:14:57 PM CST
Lots of scenes with the mask off! Hated that about the Rami stuff, 3 was the worst
by mandolorian
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really getting old......and tired.
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Feb 07, 2012 8:23:02 PM CST
Screw the dumb jacket. And you only saw his first transformation.
by hogansmasher
Just wait... his appearance changes through the movie.
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Fuck you who disagree. You've never been so wrong.
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I don't care what the fanboys say, Spiderman is being rebooted TOO SOON!
When you have The Avengers, Batman, and even Ghost Rider coming out, who gives a crap about the new Spiderman?
I'll be taking a pass thanks. -
will meekly comply and lie on their backs as damsels lube up their black dildos. They grip and spread their asscheeks to joyfully stretch out their brownholes for the Penelopes of Williamsburg, who lovingly lift the hairy balls and insert their slippery ramrods.
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Feb 07, 2012 8:42:54 PM CST
so they reportedly slashed the budget by ~60%?
by winona_ryders_pussy_juice
and the HSX price is $250. (currently projected for $250 mil) Fuck this shit man I want to see the over-budgeted mega-action Spiderman not this cheap and greedy shit Spiderman with art interns designing gay shit-ass Lizardmen.
yeah to the guy that's complaining about the art, no shit it sucks it's been created by amateurs. -
Feb 07, 2012 8:44:27 PM CST
WHERE'S CHRISTIAN BALE WHEN YOU FUCKIN NEED HIM?!
by winona_ryders_pussy_juice
YOU TRASHED SPIDERMAN - FUCKIN AMATEURS11!!
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I have zero interest in this property after 3 films in the last decade. The trailer does little to distinguish itself from them.
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I have visited this site everyday for years and have never posted. But the day has come to break my silence.
Every time there is an article about this movie I see the same comments about Andrew Garfield's acting chops. It's almost the same comments every time. It has to be a plant.
Where the fuck are these acting chops that I hear everyone talking about? Where? Because acting chops to me mean range. And this guy has managed to give the same exact boring performance in everything he's done. Oh as the sidekick guy in Social Network? Oh wait he got pissy and threw a computer. Oh brilliant! How brilliant! The next De Niro! Fuck you.
Oh wait for you brilliant judges of acting out there what about that scene in Never Let Me Go where he cried and shouted in the rain! That must be what acting is all about right! Crying and screaming in the rain? They used it to sell the movie it was so endearing! That overacting-cringe inducing performance.
Casting him was a bad choice. You want to start fresh with Peter in High School? Cast an unknown who isn't pushing 30.
And stop casting fucking Brits just because they are British in these big roles. It doesn't make them unknown because they have to struggle with a dialect through a whole film. Cast an American or just someone who deserves it. Oh he can do a dialect that must mean he can act? right? Please...
(and that doesn't mean everyone Bale and Hardy being examples of stellar actors from abroad)
Hey I hope he proves me wrong. He's just getting started. But don't talk about his acting ability based off of nothing. I saw the preview yesterday. Everything just happened to look great- except for him.
If you fuckers want to talk about chops you better be talking about someone like Penn, De Niro, Pacino, Nicholson not some fucking guy who has done the same thing for the few movies he's been in. -
Feb 07, 2012 9:39:45 PM CST
lacks energy, bland, no redhead - verdict: its shit
by dioxholsters_ghost
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Sam Raimi managed to change the way this industry works with Spider-man. Along with Tim Burton and Richard Donner, Raimi managed to make superheroes possible. And I'd argue no one has done more to change the face of film that Raimi has in the past decade. He changed what we expect from our superhero movies. By putting his vision and sweat into making us believe a man a teenager from Queens could swing above New York and have a heart.
This new movie was a cash grab and a slap in the face to a man who made these people a lot of money. And in turn, tinkered with his creative process and forced him to compromise, especially with the last film because they just know better. All these douche bags in suits who have never had a clue to begin with.
Good luck to this new movie. The footage I saw looks promising. Leary is the best choice by far in what I saw.
But show some fucking respect for the man who made Spider-man possible. And changed the way movies are made and box offices are judged. For you shitheads that forget so easily America looked to fiction to overcome a really trying time that summer and they had an answer with Peter Parker.
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The entire trailer had a "didn't I just see this?" feel to it.
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I was so excited for a Spider-Man movie, that when Spider-Man 1 came out, I saw it 4 times. I saw Spider-Man 2 twice. I saw Spider-Man 3 one time, at a midnight premier. I am officially spent. I wanted a Lizard movie, continued from the existing franchise, not another damn origin movie. The comics had a mysterious Parker parents storyline, and it SUCT! Maybe Raimi originally intended for The Lizard to be a villain in Spider-Man 3, then the idiotic Avi Arad forced him to use Venom. I don't get why Raimi's Spider-Man 4 was going to feature The Vulture and The Black Cat, but still...no Lizard. Now we get this Lizard that looks more like The Scorpion. BOO! Sony crapt in my cornflakes...again! (I'm talking about you PSN).
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Feb 07, 2012 9:57:10 PM CST
I started liking Arcade Fire because of they kept coming up on my Pandora
by yourstepdaddy
after they became "famous"... does that make me a hipster?
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Feb 07, 2012 10:12:02 PM CST
been saying it from day 1. this will be the best spidey yet...
by the_one_man_gang
and FUCK YES to the web shooters. FUCK YES.
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Hoodie= gay teen angst
He's supposed to be the kid who never had the chance to be popular; not the Emo kid self-mutilating during recess. It wasn't his choice to be a spaz, he just didn't know how to be anything else. Therefore, once he gets his powers, he doesn't know their value... Not some maladjusted angry kid with abandonment issues.
Raimi; cheesy and corny as he was, got that right. Until spider-man 2.
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...you act like the dude's been only in 2 or 3 movies. Have you seen him in Red Riding (still might be on Netflix Instant)? Or Boy A?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-vsctKad_A
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-Who do kids like these days?
-Dennis Leary, he's edgy.
-let's get him. Who else?
-Emma Stone, she's everywhere
-let's get her. What else do kids like?
-twilight
-great, let's make Spidey like the vampire, hair-cut and all
-he needs to be all Emo and angry at the world
-awesome
-we need a CG monster
-not too scary though; we need to sell toys for the little ones
-it's gonna be dark and edgy, yet family friendly
We got a billion dollar movie! Now let's worship Satan and molest some children
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Feb 07, 2012 10:40:19 PM CST
I'm neutral on this movie so far, but...it's like a greenhouse
by bedknobs_and_boomsticks
in here.
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Feb 07, 2012 10:40:57 PM CST
It would've looked better if they ran a film grain filter
by bedknobs_and_boomsticks
on it.
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but as long as it's coming out, I guess I'll give this one a chance. Sony should go bankrupt for pushing this though.
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Feb 07, 2012 10:56:09 PM CST
I'LL TAKE THIS AS THE SUMMER MOVIE THAT PEOPLE LEAST BITCH ABOUT WHEN ALL IS SAID AND DONE
by mikeyeieio
Avengers=You're gonna say "It needed more(insert group member here, probably Hulk) in it"
Batman=You're gonna say "Bane was all marble-mouthed and small, Anne Hathaway was unnecessary, I can't believe this mess was made by Nolan"
Prometheus=You're gonna say "That's not my theory on how this borefest is an Alien prequel"
Men in Black 3=I'll download this
Haters going to Hate -
How many times have heroes been rebooted in the comics themselves? Reboots come along with a classic story. Should we shit over the next director that reboots "Hamlet"? Who but the most rabid obnoxious fanboy (like 90% of you here) would ever go see a Spidey story with Madam Web and the Scarlet Spider story lines? They need to appeal to the broadest base possible. This will be a fun 2 hours in a theater on a hot summer day. That is all it is supposed to be. If you are counting on a superhero movie to redefine your week, let alone your life....well I don't know where to even start with you. If you are too sophisticated to enjoy this movie, then you should be too sophisticated to log on and start pissing in somebody else's soup. Now suck my balls.
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Feb 07, 2012 11:05:02 PM CST
Oh, and if someone ACTUALLY likes something on this site...
by doctorzoidberg
it doesn't mean they're a plant....it just means that they still have a spark of humanity, which is more than I can say for most of you, you neurotic, obese, sexless freaks.
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Feb 07, 2012 11:05:15 PM CST
if you're an apologist for reboots, you're an apologist for the status quo
by awepittance
you know goddam well that people aren't complaining about the idea of reinterpreting something, they're complaining about Hollywood's complete lack of testicles because of fear of losing revenues.
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Feb 07, 2012 11:06:55 PM CST
Oh, how 'bout one of you dicks complain about something original
by doctorzoidberg
Why log on and type the same shit that 78 other people typed in the last hour?
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Thanks for the link. Although the sizzle reel kind of is what I'm talking about. It's a lot of anger or crying without the reality in between. And I have to say I see him straining to get through the dialect. Look I don't post on here because I don't want to dump on somebody publicly and Ive been completely hypocritical by doing just that. Because I have such strong opinions I usually don't share them via the Internet.
Yeah I saw Parnassus too. I didn't like him at all in that one actually.
He is just very middle of the road actory. Like straight out of his scene study class. I have yet to see a film where he develops a true character arch and doesn't just play the same role throughout or just rely on emotion to get through a performance. I guess I could say that about all of the actors that are getting chance after chance lately and don't have the craft to deserve the opportunities thrown their way. I think that's my real issue to be honest. People are throwing around praise on guys like Channing Tatum who is like watching cement dry.
I wouldn't put Garfield in that arena but I certainly think he has a lot to prove before he earns these accolades he has been so easily been given. I'd say his real test is going to be when he is on Broadway as Biff in Death of A Salesman coming up. If he doesn't manage to cry and shout his way through that production and hold his own up there on the boards with Hoffman then I will stand completely corrected.
What I saw of his Peter Parker in the scene with Gwen especially, was a lot of bad decisions. Harry above said he was shy. Nope. She should have the power in that scene. He is too confident. It's wrong. It looked to me like that was the first time they set up a date and he really doesn't seem to be sweating it too much. And that choice might end up with the director but ultimately it just shows how there is no difference between the way he plays Spider-man and Peter. They are two different characters. You can see it in the awful doorman line in the trailer- thats a Spider-man delivery of that line when it should be Parker. Shy. Not snappy grinning bullshit. Snappy is Spidey. -
What's uo with Harry's naked gifs? Jesus, man.
And oh, this movie looks shit. -
Feb 07, 2012 11:33:54 PM CST
Hey, hey, hey, I'm a neuroitc, obese, sexless freak and I liked the trailer & looking forward to it
by tallboy6t6
You can be two things, you know.
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Although Emma Stone in 3D may making my bathing suit area all tingly.
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Hollywood has no testicles, and people can be frustrated by their lack of vision. BUT I disagree that that is what everyone here is going on about. The majority are whiny bitches who want their own version of the movie made OR they hate the look of the new film OR they are obsessed with the last films. I don't hear "Fuck Unoriginal Hollywood", I hear "Fuck Sony" "Fuck Garfield" "Fuck Webb" "Too soon" etc.
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But onward we must go.
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Feb 08, 2012 12:04:06 AM CST
I never really cared for the Raimi trilogy- maybe this movie will do the trick.
by kamaji
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NOT NEEDED.
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Suspicions confirmed. Doesn't look like a radical reboot like Batman Begins, just more of the same with offensive disregard to viewers' interest in continuity.
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Feb 08, 2012 1:40:16 AM CST
Hm... I'm not one to sniff out these kind of things, but are we dealing with animal, mineral...
by neodevilbanex
... or Sony PLANTS?
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... at the guy behind Parker at about 1:46, haha.
Typical trailer these days that give away far too much. The only part we won't see in trailers before it comes out is Gwen biting the big one at the end. Oh noes, what a shocker it will be.
The Lizard's design looks terrible compared to comics.
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Feb 08, 2012 2:12:52 AM CST
paranoia? check. Whiny fan boy cunt holes? check. shouts of studio plants? check. fan wank complaints about removing the mask? check.....
by sam jacksons wig
... arguments between imbeciles regarding this version and raimi's? check.
pissing and moaning about reboots? check.
inevitable comparisons to the fucking comic book versions by idiotic know it alls? check.
no-one actually liking anything? check.
Use of the term "meh" even though its waaaaaaaay past its sell-by date? check.
some sappy useless cunts screaming "FIRST" like it fucking means something at all, apart from how fast their fat fucking dorito stained fingers can hit a keypad key? check.
a bunch of ass clown shoe wearing jizz stains saying they wont see this movie when they clearly will? check.
I have had bowel movements with more purpose and personality than most of you on this fucking thread.
Get a life. Find something that makes you happy, even if it is a bucket of KFC and jacking-off to 2 and a half men......
This will STILL make money. You are changing NOTHING. You are IMPOTENT FUCKS with no purpose in life. It sickens me that you fucking exist at all. -
and cheap as hell too, typical Sony Imageworks. Other Spidey flicks suffered from them too. Hopefully story isn't complete tripe, though we'll prob know 99% by time last trailer is out.....
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Pretentious holier-than-thou d-bag with token B-List Celebrity X's body part for a name, who uses cliched, derogatory, remarks about other forum posters in futile attempt to appear funny and witty but in the ends up being one the forum cliches that he/she appears to loathe so much. Check.
Snarf, snarf. -
Feb 08, 2012 3:31:54 AM CST
come on people sam raimies last movie ist now what 5-6 years old and THIS looks like a tv version of spiderman!
by engel
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Feb 08, 2012 3:32:46 AM CST
andrew is sooo wrong as parker...lizzard looks like a tv dino and the movie looks like only made in the studio, nothing feels real!
by engel
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Feb 08, 2012 3:33:21 AM CST
anyone who thinks this is coooool or great simply have no idea about movies or better comic movies!
by engel
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Feb 08, 2012 3:35:22 AM CST
by the way shit on emo spidey all over again, idiots@hollywood!
by engel
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...on Peter slugging MJ and Aunt May walking in!
Pissing myself laughin at that! -
Whatever happened to him???? He just kind of fell of the face of the Earth.
This looks great though. -
Feb 08, 2012 4:14:27 AM CST
They need to set the next reboot in the 60's/70's.
by bedknobs_and_boomsticks
These get dated quickly, style-wise. Pre-dating it would give them more shelf life. Anyhow, as much as I loathe hoodies, that shot in the trailer is clearly an homage to the cover of issue #50 of The Amazing Spider-Man:
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Feb 08, 2012 4:20:35 AM CST
These sorts of movies are ruined by 3D, always having
by bedknobs_and_boomsticks
to have shit on the z-axis coming at the viewer.
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Feb 08, 2012 4:44:03 AM CST
zardoz5 - you spotted the cliche within a cliche???....
by sam jacksons wig
...hmmmmm may be not all on here are as spasticated as I thought.......
...but in your case I'll make an exception, keyboard warrior!!!!! -
Feb 08, 2012 4:56:23 AM CST
To studio plants: shitting on trailers is what we do here.
by bedknobs_and_boomsticks
If you don't like it, get the fuck out of our catbox.
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Not that I want to encourage the use of the term because it ends up being used wrong and seems to be shorthand for "they like things I don't like". And it's just stupid.
A better way to describe a hipster would be a person likes band x, but only until band x gets popular in the mainstream. They then I've on to a more obscure band. -
Choke on it Sony.
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Feb 08, 2012 7:21:14 AM CST
So let me get this straight: Clown Shoes Avenegers looks great, but this Spider-man looks terrible.
by dr_pepperspray
Seriously guys, what the fuck? Who are you people? Are you the reason so much shit gets made or that I can't find a decent show on TV anymore?
I used to think it was Hollywood, but now I'm just convinced it's most of you fuckers. -
Feb 08, 2012 7:49:04 AM CST
No, this is not just a 80 million dollars budget movie. It's more, much more. Raimi's Spider-Man movies budget type.
by asimovlives
And you geeks will have to forgive me, but this is getting beter and better looking the more i see it. I've gained good hopes for the movie.
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Feb 08, 2012 7:53:17 AM CST
monolith, your formula is correct except for several key factors...
by subtitles_off
Hipster likes Band X.
Band X gets buzz offa hipster-like.
Band X makes album with the douche who produces Coldplay.
Hipster betrayed. Band X gets Rolling Stone cover.
Simpletons begin claiming to love Band X.
Hipster moves on to something else.
Band X becomes an embarrassment.
Nobody listens to Band X anymore, not even their earlier hipster-cred stuff. -
Tell that to titties!
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It probably went over but it has 1/2 the budget of Spiderman 2, and it shows. The cg is the Incredible Hulk quality.
I pay $10 in the summer to see Nolan, or the best effects in the business. Not this shit. -
Feb 08, 2012 8:50:14 AM CST
here is the Urban Dictonary definition (lol)
by winona_ryders_pussy_juice
hipster 66364 up, 16207 down
Hipsters are a subculture of men and women typically in their 20's and 30's that value independent thinking, counter-culture, progressive politics, an appreciation of art and indie-rock, creativity, intelligence, and witty banter. The greatest concentrations of hipsters can be found living in the Williamsburg, Wicker Park, and Mission District neighborhoods of major cosmopolitan centers such as New York, Chicago, and San Francisco respectively. Although "hipsterism" is really a state of mind,it is also often intertwined with distinct fashion sensibilities. Hipsters reject the culturally-ignorant attitudes of mainstream consumers, and are often be seen wearing vintage and thrift store inspired fashions, tight-fitting jeans, old-school sneakers, and sometimes thick rimmed glasses. Both hipster men and women sport similar androgynous hair styles that include combinations of messy shag cuts and asymmetric side-swept bangs. Such styles are often associated with the work of creative stylists at urban salons, and are usually too "edgy" for the culturally-sheltered mainstream consumer. The "effortless cool" urban bohemian look of a hipster is exemplified in Urban Outfitters and American Apparel ads which cater towards the hipster demographic. Despite misconceptions based on their aesthetic tastes, hipsters tend to be well educated and often have liberal arts degrees, or degrees in maths and sciences, which also require certain creative analytical thinking abilities. Consequently many hipsters tend to have jobs in the music, art, and fashion industries. It is a myth that most hipsters are unemployed and live off of their parent's trust funds.
Hipsters shun mainstream societal conventions that apply to dating preferences and traditional "rules" of physical attraction. It is part of the hipster central dogma not to be influenced by mainsream advertising and media, which tends to only promote ethnocentric ideals of beauty. The concepts of androgyny and feminism have influenced hipster culture, where hipster men are often as thin as the women they date. The muscular and athletic all-American male ideal is not seen as attractive by confident and culturally-empowered hipster women who instead view them as symbols of male oppression, sexism, and misogyny. Likewise, culturally-vapid sorority-type girls with fake blond hair, overly tanned skin, and "Britney Spears tube-tops" are not seen as attractive by cultured hipster males who instead see them as symbols of female insecurity, low self-esteem, and lack of cultural intelligence and independent thinking. Hipsters are also very racially open-minded, and the greatest number of interracial couples in any urban environment are typically found within the hipster subculture.
Although hipsters are technically conformists within their own subculture, in comparison to the much larger mainstream mass, they are pioneers and leaders of the latest cultural trends and ideals. For example, the surge of jeans made to look old and worn (i.e. "distressed"), that have become prevalent at stores such as The Gap, American Eagle, Abercrombie and Fitch, and Hollister, were originally paraded by hipsters who shopped in thrift stores years before such clothing items were mass produced and sold to the mainstream consumer. The true irony here is that many of the detractors of hipster culture are in fact unknowingly following a path that hipsters have carved out years before them. This phenomena also applies to music as well, as many bands have become successful and known to mainstream audiences only because hipsters first found and listened to them as early-adopters of new culture. Once certain concepts of fashion and music have reached mainstream audiences, hipsters move on to something new and improved.
Because of the rise of various online photo-blog and social networking sites, insights into urban hipster culture is reaching sheltered suburban audiences at an exponential rate. Cultural "norms" have been deconstructed by hipster culture as a whole. Hipsterism is often dismissed as just an image thing by some, but the culture as a whole is effecting changes in society, leading to feelings of insecurity and resentment in people who are no longer a part of the cultural ruling class. For example, a lot of anti-hipster sentiment evidently comes from culturally-clueless suburban frat boy types who feel that the more sensitive, intelligent, and culturally aware hipster ideal threatens their insecure sense of masculinity. Anti-hipster sentiment often comes from people who simply can't keep up with social change and are envious of those who can.
A conversation outside a hipster bar in downtown NYC:
Frat Boy #1: Dude, are you having any luck picking up chicks in there?
Frat Boy #2: Man...I haven't experienced anything like this before. These chicks are totally rejecting me and going for all these hipster guys in tight pants and shaggy hair instead.
Frat Boy #1: Maybe we should head back up to that bar in Murry Hill where you hooked up with that drunk b*tch from Alpha Sigma Phi last week?
Frat Boy #2: Yeah...I don't think we have what it takes to compete with these guys in here. These hipster chicks won't even give us the time of the day! -
Make mine Vertigo!
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it looks like Man In Suit.
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Part 2 for some reason sails way above and works most of the time.
Not a fan of Tubby McGuire, he's an art-house goon actor by nature and his weepy, whussy performance shows that.
Spidey is known for his smarts and great sense of humor, McGuire never really conveyed either convincingly.
Kirstin Dunst- Ugh. Dead-eyed, stoned, nasty hag with dead weeds for hair was a colossial miscast.
Rami never knows when to scale it back. He's always over-the-top; comedy, the action, but also the look is cheap.
In part 1, when Gobblin attacks, it looks too fake to the point of it being distracting. Worse than anything in SUPERMAN THE MOVIE or SM2. Way worse.
Garfield, who knows? Looks the part, sounds the part. -
Feb 08, 2012 9:36:10 AM CST
The whole story just seems retarded. Reminds me of the Green Lantern trailer where they showed all the good parts because of all the bad reception.
by bat725
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Feb 08, 2012 9:52:18 AM CST
i find the whole " Garfield looks the part " fascinating.
by subtitles_off
I've read a lot of comic books. Some of them Spider-Man comic books.
Missed the ones where he looked like a scrawny dork with a giant nose.
I'm not hating on Garfield. He might turn out to be the next, um, Leonardo DiCaprio.
If you say he " looks " the part, you're seeing something I don't. I didn't think Tobey looked it, either.
Maybe I gotta get my eyes checked. -
Feb 08, 2012 9:53:38 AM CST
I liked the Lizard better when he was in "The Last Starfighter"
by dr.007
at least then he had a bit of a snout
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Feb 08, 2012 10:09:29 AM CST
winona_ryder, that definition was hilarious and pretty spot on
by darth_meh
The one odd and blatant omission was the BEARD, which no self-respecting male hipster is without.
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ENEMY MINE.
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It's downloaded from his iPad.
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I guess The Black Keys would perfectly fit your formula.
A huge hipster backlash is forthcoming. -
I dunno, though.
The Black Keys have always been a bit-too AC-DCish for hipsters.
The Black Keys were only ever really " hip " to peeps who hadn't been " hip " to White Stripes for years already. They're " hip " in the same way Kings of Leon were " hip. "
The backlash is all Wilco's for the taking. -
No, THX1968 i'm not a plant. I work in a high school library where i can order all the graphic novels i want to and read to my hearts content. I grew up reading Marvel, and i still do. i have an open mind and optimism for just about any comic book movie because when i was a kid most of this didn't exist. My point was that i thought it was cool that garfield said that because he was referring to the Miles Morales character which i'm currently enjoying. My girlfriend is new to comics but enjoy's ultimate spider-man too. She likes miles' mom because she resembles her a bit and the character's dialogue really sounds like things she says to our family from time to time. It made me think how different takes on a character in movies is not necessarily a bad thing, just like comic books. It's weird to me that so many people are trashing this because i can't seem to see what's so bad looking about it. Am i supposed to hate it because you all say so? If i enjoy it and no one else on earth does, fuck it.
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Feb 08, 2012 11:50:28 AM CST
Movie-wise, none of this stuff " existed when I was a kid " either.
by subtitles_off
Ahhhh.
The good ol' days.
Don't look back. You can never look back. -
Feb 08, 2012 12:06:43 PM CST
There must be spidey in day light scenes in this movie
by fat_rancor_keeper
The teasers and trailers simply aren't showing them because they want to push that popular dark vibe.
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And you neatly sidestepped the whole issue, because obviously you can't answer it..
That scene in Spiderman 2 where Tobey's Peter slinks away to let an old guy possibly get beaten to death, is nothing to do with him wanting to give up being spiderman to be with Mary Jane. He didn't give it up until he lost his powers in the movie.
(Thus, what Raimi is effectively saying, is that the powers make the hero, and not the guy he is underneath)
So how did you miss the plot point of him losing his powers? You must misunderstand a lot of movies if you missed that.
My point which you ignored, beacuse you can't answer it, is that Raimi made him a coward in that scene. Powers or no powers, Just about anyone, who was in Peters shoes in that situation would have done something. Hell I would have tried something, and I'm sure most decent minded folk here would have too.
And Peter, given what happened to his Uncle Ben, should be the absolute last person in the world to walk away from that situation, given what happened to him the last time he did so.
It's a fundamental misunderstanding of the character. He's supposed to be a hero, not a fucking, timid little toad of a coward! -
only blogs
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Is there really a good reason to label the representatives of a production company as... what did you say? Fucktards? Is it really necessary?
At any rate, I'd like to poke a hole in your allegation of lazy writing. This is THE origin story. Gwen Stacy was around LONG before that screaming red-headed "America Friendly" tart, Mary Jane. Gwen Stacy was the sacrificial lamb.
I think of lazy writing as developing Spidey with biological spinners. No need to keep track of the ...forgive me ... Web content. That is truly lazy.
Lazy writing is EVERYTHING Raimi did, or let happen. it was hokey, 2 dimensional, and without apologies. Too bad. Cause now the world wants more Spiderman, but can't agree on how to do it. Sony took a BOLD step, and said "Screw Raimi. We're gonna do it again, and this time right." Sometimes it's a bad idea to let the director talk you into an idea like Spiderman 3.
The claim of laziness is all on the Raimi films.
This looks complex, and dynamic. This looks to be a real super-hero story with a genuine origin story. Now cool it on the f-bombs, would you?
They reduce your argument, and make your statements unreadable. You're better than that. ...I hope. -
After reading the rest of your posts, I've decided you ARE indeed a tepid mass of squid shit bent on making others' lives a little less comfortable with you in the world, you joyless, provocative mess of a human.
You are NOT better than that. -
...will be passing on this one.
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...and...erm...not very spidey.
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the underground" is the new "indie
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NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Feb 08, 2012 2:28:37 PM CST
At 2:00 is the actual real swinging that was captured on camera by a fan a few months back.
by moonlightdrive
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Feb 08, 2012 2:29:27 PM CST
When Spiderman and Lizard are falling through the water near the end of the trailer, Lizards face reminds me of Voldermort.
by moonlightdrive
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bossk the bounty hunter from empire strikes back?
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Feb 08, 2012 3:09:48 PM CST
how about gorn, the reptilian that fought kirk on the original star trek?
by foree forehead
nahh, he actually looks more like the REAL lizard..
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so excited to see this now, that's two fantastic trailers for Marvel this week!
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True Dat, forehead.
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Feb 08, 2012 4:10:49 PM CST
since Peter Parker is a poor schmuck with financial difficulties who has to study and work for a living...
by asimovlives
... it makes sense the spider-man action happens at night, when he has free time from breadwinning. Seems logical to me.
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Feb 08, 2012 5:23:01 PM CST
who designs a lizard man with a human shaped head?
by winona_ryders_pussy_juice
Definitely an intern.
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Feb 08, 2012 7:52:15 PM CST
Doesn't look as bad as I thought it would be.......
by danielnocharismacraig
But in this economy, I can't justify shelling out $10 for what really looks like a Netflix rental. I'll be saving whatever cash I have for Avengers, Prometheus and The Dark Knight Rises. And thats probably it. Being poor sucks.
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Didn't we already see enough of this in 2?
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That's just plain wrong...
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Feb 09, 2012 12:52:51 AM CST
Foetus needs to be this way, it's how his captors brought him up in that shed.
by artdentus
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Does. not. matter. For every comic purist on here, there are 1,000 people who just want a good movie and have never read the comics. Source material like this will never outweigh what works best with masses e.g. Going maskless to connect more emotionally with the masses. Fans matter because they're the loudest both in praising and bitchiness, but at the end of the day the studio only cares what gets non-fans to fork over $15 opening weekend.
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Feb 10, 2012 10:50:55 AM CST
Ok, finngodo, so the only thing that matters is marketability, appealing to the Lowest Common Denominator and Box Office Returns
by darth_meh
This is true if you are a Hollywood Studio Exec.
But, if you love film and care about good films none of that shit matters!
That said, I agree that fanboys crying over minute details that are changed in the film is meaningless.
But, we are not discussing minor changes or changes that don't matter or changes that are an improvement.
This redesign of the Lizard is not an improvement. Also, it is derivative of many creature designs we have seen before. Most recently Voldemort in Harry Potter. So, honestly, if the sole reason they made this change is because the films that this creature design is derived from made bank at the B.O., well, they can go f*ck themselves! -
The design for Lizard looks exactly how he looked when he debuted in the 60s. The alligator mouth is a recent vision of the lizard.
http://www.google.com/imgres?q=amazing+spider-man+%236&um=1&hl=en&client=safari&sa=N&rls=en&biw=1280&bih=629&tbm=isch&tbnid=wa6f5FXcpsSsUM:&imgrefurl=http://cinefantastiqueonline.com/2011/03/villain-for-amazing-spider-man-confrimed/&docid=-AiMu9KqJROCCM&imgurl=http://cinefantastiqueonline.com/wp-content/uploads/ASpideM_Lizard.jpg&w=800&h=1198&ei=mCw3T6L6C9TqgQfgp43oBQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=288&vpy=111&dur=4197&hovh=275&hovw=183&tx=101&ty=158&sig=107627872416271823341&page=1&tbnh=138&tbnw=99&start=0&ndsp=21&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0
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