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Production Company behind BLADE RUNNER sequel denies talks with Harrison Ford...
Hey folks, Harry here... Mike Fleming is breaking that Twitchfilm's report about Harrison Ford being in talks for the BLADE RUNNER project that Alcon is doing with Ridley Scott is apparently wrong. OR so completely premature. You see, according to the story that Fleming got, they're at the conceptual phase - and it sounds as if Ridley is wanting to pull a PROMETHEUS - where he tells an entirely separate story, but in the same universe and possibly a different kind of story set there. I just hope it isn't as simple as just another BLADE RUNNER case. But hell, who am I kidding. I'd see that too. I mean. Cast Michael Shannon as a replicant trying to escape an alcoholic beaten raw Michael Fassbender in a killer cool overcoat and Spinner? Yeah, I'd be there. Or maybe have old Edward James Olmos, now the Blade Runner bureau chief and how he runs BLADE RUNNERs. Like 45 years further into Los Angeles' future. I would love that. But for now, what this story is telling us... is they don't have the story in place, they have their options open, which means... we've got a while till this movie is made. And goddamn I want to see whatever Ridley and crew come up with. I just dearly hope that Syd Mead and Douglas Trumbull are involved in the making of the film. Syd is so incredibly important to that universe as is Douglas Trumbull. Mead is currently working with Neill Blomkamp on ELYSIUM, which is why I'm frothing at the mouth for ELYSIUM. And Trumbull had tremendous results in Malick's TREE OF LIFE as the Visual Effects Consultant. Just knowing that they were involved with Ridley on this project... it'd just be, ideal. Right?
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Crystal Skull was enough, thank you.
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Feb 06, 2012 10:33:23 PM CST
I don't want a Blade Runner sequel, prequel, sidequel
by margot_tenenbaum
I'd love for Ridley Scott to make another sci-fi film that defines the next 30 years but it shouldn't have to include all of the BR tropes like replicants, off world colonies & spinners.
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Feb 06, 2012 10:33:30 PM CST
Just as long as it's never revealed if Deckard is a replicant or not.
by jet_jaguar
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Feb 06, 2012 10:44:30 PM CST
So people are excited about Prometheus, but nervous about this film? Pick a side, fuckers.
by the_pig_iron_lady
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Feb 06, 2012 10:49:09 PM CST
So, this is basically confirmation a BR *companion piece* is happening?
by justmyluck
I have a feeling Ridley will be merging or somehow cross-pollinating the BR and ALIEN-verses.
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He wouldn't have lived that long. Hollywood, please don't destroy another great movies legacy. Are all the original story ideas really gone?
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Here's an idea... Make a TV series set in the Blade Runnner universe. You'd have more time to explore ideas, you could have some great set pieces (enhanced with digital, of course) and you could really get into some deep character explorations. Blade Runner: The Series. Think about it.
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probably can't miss with the right people in place. And they'd have time to flesh out the universe and concept, rather that a one pitch, strike or home run opportunity.
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Feb 06, 2012 11:02:43 PM CST
speaking of everyone being on the Michael Fassbender bandwagon now, a movie recommendation...
by theseeker7
Back in I believe it was 2004, the BBC did a one-off Sherlock Holmes TV movie, out of canon, called "SH & The Case Of The Silk Stocking". Rupert Everett played Holmes to Ian Hurt's Watson. Fassbender had a supporting role. Very good production.
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Feb 06, 2012 11:07:54 PM CST
Correct me if I'm Wrong, but don't Ridley Scott and Harrison Ford fucking HATE each other?
by slder78
Thought I read somewhere that Ford swore he'd never work with Scott again.
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Glad I didn't waste my time in the endless bitching & emotional whining about why it shouldn't have happened.
Now bring on the next rumor so we can bitch and moan and work up so much nerd rage and disdain towards the movie that when it actually comes out, there will be no way in hell you'll actually enjoy it. It's worked for every other long awaited movie... -
Feb 06, 2012 11:19:34 PM CST
How about Jane With No Last Name as a replicated genetic defect with red hair?
by stereotypical evil archer
She throws ginger snaps with such force that she leaves a trail of dead Blade Runners.
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Is Rutger wading through a field of xenomorphs, his engineered skin oblivious to their acid, ripping their fucking tongues out by the roots.
Don't care about the plot, the casting, the continuity or anything else. Just that, and Ridley is done. -
MAKE AN ORIGINAL FUCKING MOVIE!!!
Or just adapt one of the roughly 1 billion fantastic sci fi novels out there. Can you imagine Ridley doing an Asimov or Bradbury story?
Of all the people completely incensed by the idea of Watchmen prequel comics, they all seem to love the idea of more Blade Runner. For the life of me I can't imagine why. -
Feb 06, 2012 11:31:53 PM CST
If Deckard is a Replicant then why is he so much weaker?
by stereotypical evil archer
The movie is more powerful with a human Deckard doubting his humanity; who ultimately redeems himself by protecting and falling in love with Rachel, a replicant.
A replicant Deckard has no redemption and no symbolic journey.
Deckard as a human is a powerful film. Deckard as a replicant is only an exercise in style.
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Feb 06, 2012 11:38:53 PM CST
Yeah I agree. Deckard as a replicant is stupid and frankly contrived.
by wrath_of_fett
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bored in scifi flicks. Get someone else.
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more enamoured of getting a stylish scifi than that particular universe. How about let Duncan Jones direct Neuromancer like he would like to do?
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Feb 07, 2012 12:41:07 AM CST
Get Fassbender to play the lead and tell a different Blade Runner story...
by aftermath
I want Ridley to make an original sci-fi film too, BUT, if he does make another Blade Runner...he should do this:
Cast Fassbender, as a new Blade Runner. Have him wear a fedora, throughout the film. Also, film the original, farm-house opening sequence that Hampton\Ridley thought of. Would be a great teaser trailer...you see Fassbender shoot the replicant, pull-out the jaw-piece and then walk out to his spinner and fly away.
As for an actual story idea, I think the second book deals with another Blade Runner tracking down, Deckard and Rachel, right?
So, I guess they could go with that, but maybe Deckard's story should be left alone.
Btw, is Vangelis still around?
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Yes, he did Indy 4, but he was vocal about how much he hated the Star Wars Prequels and how he wouldn't have cameod had he been asked by Lucas anyway. Don't see him being in a sequel to a film so many relish and consider a masterpiece. I could see Ford saying "Why would I want to be in something that could fuck up the original?"
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To me, it's simple, the unicorn origami on the floor in front of Deckard's apartment. Either it's a GARGANTUAN coincidence (I love the word gargantuan, so rarely do I have the opportunity to use it) that Gaff picked the unicorn or it's obviously saying Gaff knew about Deckard's dreams. How could he NOT be a replicant? Anyone has an idea that disputes this, I'd be happy to hear it.
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I think Ford's boredom play well in sci-fi. For instance, Han Solo had a "seen it all" type mentality that was a great foil to the audience's (or Luke's) wonder and excitement. In Blade Runner, Ford gives a hollow performance to a man who had a "belly-full of killing". Deckard's disinterest and regret plays well against the desperation of his situation, ultimately summing to a sense of detachment or...... boredom.
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That's all they need to do. Don't even make mention of Deckard, Batty or whatever else except for the Tyrell Corporation.
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No problem with Deckard being weaker than the warrior replicant's because they were designed to be state of the art warriors and it was clearly established that not all replicants are the same (animals, pleasure models etc).
For me I'd love to see something off world with Deckard style replicant's, I loved the Earth in BR but frankly I've seen it once and I don't need to see it again but off world - the kind of places described in Rutgers final iconic speech. Who doesn't want to see something beautiful and alien.
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The Unicorn dream wasn't in the orignal movie. In an interview, Ford said he asked Scott if he was replicant or human, and Scott told him human. Of course, Scott later said that anyone that couldn't see Deckard was a replicant was an idiot. So I guess Scott doesn't know. The size of the coincidence is hard to judge. Maybe unicorns were a popular 'fake' animal. Maybe they had both just watched Gone in 60 Seconds and associated unicorns with unattainable goals (With Deckard dreaming of it and Gaff reminding him about the unattainable part, especially if you take away the "Rachel is special" part or consider that Gaff didn't know about it).
In the book that PK Dick wrote, Deckard was human. Then again, replicants weren't super either. -
but by TESB, it looked plainly like real-life weariness with the material. As far as BR, Ford has admitted to having been vastly put off by Scott's focus on production/aesthetics over performance. The actors in Legend expressed the same. Though Ford perhaps doesn't realize how drab and languid he usually is, other than in The Mosquito Coast.
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Indeed, how come he's still alive at all?
If Ford is in the new movie then
a) it means that Deckard was never a replicant.
b) Deckard was a replicant but one created in the image of Ford, who could then appear in the new movie as he looks today, playing an entirely new role - Deckard's creator would be my guess.
c)He aint in it at all.
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Hmm, interesting. I guess you could almost say he's human or replicant depending on which film you are watching. That way everyone can have it their own way. Good points. Props!
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...but in the case of Blade Runner I think Mr. Scott's approach to Ford and the material elements of the story served the films lasting quality. Remember that it was inferred in Dangerous Days: Making Blade Runner that Ridley ignored Ford on-set in an attempted to woo a certain isolation and loneliness from the actor. Most of the film has a golden age flavor of acting, characters are sometimes stiff and feminine traits are classically underplayed. These qualities feel deliberate and work in the vein of a black and white detective story. Ford, whether he likes it or not, plays right into the role. Deckard may be one of the roles he was best cast into, despite Ford's antipathy and type-cast hero persona.
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It had a few weak points, I admit, but it was a solid Indiana Jones movie consistent with the other three. And Harrison Ford was great in it and great in Cowboys & Aliens (which I found to be a mediocre and forgettable movie).
Anyhow, I love the idea of them doing another movie in the Blade Runner movie. There's so much potential in that universe. And, as with everyone here, I hope that Scott leaves the subject alone as to whether or not Deckard was a replicant. I know his opinion on it but I prefer to keep it ambiguous. Respect the original and the fun curiosity it holds. -
NO.IT WAS WORSE.
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Book it.... Dude is getting slow and old... watch and interview with him...... its agonizing..
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So there.
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NO!! It was much much MUCH WORSE!!!
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Don't know why, just think he would be a perfect fit. The way his face looks now--just awesome for a movie like this. Looks like he's been through the ringer. Can see 100 detective novels written on his face.
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Feb 07, 2012 10:21:04 AM CST
He couldn't be a replicant. He wears a hat and drives a car.
by tikidonkeypunch
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This would be brilliant - and aged bladerunner on one last gig? Who wouldn't want that? Plus this would be a great vehicle for a Ford comeback, despite himself.
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re: "Either it's a GARGANTUAN coincidence that Gaff picked the unicorn or it's obviously saying Gaff knew about Deckard's dreams. How could he NOT be a replicant?"
It's a massive coincidence either way. What are the chances that a replicant Deckard chose that particular time to have a 20-second daydream about a unicorn just before Gaff made a unicorn origami figure to taunt him with? Has Gaff got access to a machine that shows him what replicants have been "remembering" recently so that he can mess with their heads? If so, why? Why does nobody have a machine that shows them what the rogue replicants have been "remembering" lately in order to help pinpoint their current whereabouts or where they might be heading next?
Why would replicants be implanted with a false memory of a unicorn running through a stream anyway? Why not implant them all with a false memory of a totally new fictional creature nobody except the illustrator has ever seen before and then you could just ask them to draw the Dreaded Snargleflargle for you and dispense with the Voight-Kampff test altogether? As soon as someone can draw the Dreaded Snargleflargle accurately according to the top secret Dreaded Snargleflargle illustration in your Blade Runner handbook, they're obviously a replicant - BLAMMM! -
Deckard has Gaffe's memories. That's why he hates him.
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...in every way, story-wise. But I'm still a fan of the director's version more than the one with the Sam Spade voiceover and the happy ending with the Shining B-roll.
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Feb 07, 2012 12:45:28 PM CST
Scratchmonkey, nice! But if you're not cop, your little people.
by notcher
Always assumed that was Bryant's way of saying "If you don't do what I say I'll retire your robotic ass." Interesting shit.
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Feb 07, 2012 3:04:52 PM CST
8 words of aggregated news, 24 words of Harry making up ideas for a new movie.
by rkdn
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....A plot arch could be young Deckard hated his job as a Blade Runner and went to Tyrel Corp to get a replica of him on the streets so he could retire. Deckard reitres after one gets made and 'it' is the Blade Runner in the film. Gaff knows Deckard has been replaced but hasn't told Byrant. Rachel's longevity was not in her programming and 'dies'. Replicant Deckard becomes more aware of himself and certain implanted memories thought blocked, come back...He goes looking for Human Deckard...I would love to see that happen and a character called 'Weyland' or 'Bishop' appear...you never know....Holbydude out.
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Although, it does make a little sense in a weird way--but how did you arrive at that conclusion. Seen that movie a dozen times and I can't think of what scenes you could use to just state that as a matter of fact.
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One of those things that probably has no basis in fact but is fun to speculate on. Kind of like Kubrick's The Shining really being a movie about the slaughter of Native Americans by The United States. People sometimes see subtext when there isn't any--and I'm guilty of it too. I shouldn't have stated it as fact.
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That's why both have the unicorn connection and the mutual animosity. A combination of self loathing and a sense of a job incomplete.
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Feb 08, 2012 7:56:06 AM CST
"Kingdom of the Crystal Skull was not a bad movie!" No it wasn't. It was godawfully terrible! Which is worst.
by asimovlives
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Feb 08, 2012 8:01:45 AM CST
I'm also on the side of those who thinks Deckard is human.
by asimovlives
Deckard as a replicant might look cute, but it derails the deeper meanings and themes in the movie. The movie is better with Deckard as a replicant. Or better yet, with the notion of his true identity left ambiguous and undecided, clued from those supposed indirect hints that some think they find in the movie.
I seriously think that if right from the start, right from the first time the movie had been theatrically released, there had ben any positive indication of Deckard being a replicant, the movie would had not the enduring appleal that it has. Part of the fun and what makes BR so great is how everything is so subtle and understated, allowing everybody to make their own opinion about it.
That's the beauty of Blade Runner (among many other things).
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