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Harry's read this new EVIL DEAD script - and yeah, takes more after EVIL DEAD the original...
Hey folks, Harry here... Talking about scripts of films yet to be shot is always a tricky affair. Especially since things change between the time a draft is finished and the filmmaking process in general. Take for example the tone of the script. When a deadite screams out a blasphemy of an extremely personal nature... it can be read as straight shocking horror, as if little Regan is in bed about bloodily fuck herself with a crucifix... or it can be sung out in a tormenting teasing giggly manner as we have seen in some of the EVIL DEAD franchise.
That said, the overall tone of the script seems to be seriously scary. When you read that MIA is the new ASH for this EVIL DEAD reboot... I do have to say, that is a very loose comparison. She doesn't work at S-MART, in fact there is no S-MART. I will also say, that the lovely Jane Levy... I'm betting she got the part by committing to a rather radical diet and weightloss campaign because her character of MIA is the reason everyone is at this cabin. Mia is a drug addict, rail thin as described. A shadow of a person. She perches on countertops as if she were a cat, slips into rooms unseen... and that's before anything wicked has occurred. Her older brother, David, left her to be with her crazy and deathly sick mother - and never came back. Their relationship is strained. The sort of relationship where they love each other, but there's unsaid things that create a space between each other when they look at one another. A brother that leads his own life, while putting his little sister through a bit of hell...
For about the first 40 pages of the script, we're basically being introduced to the 5 characters that have come to help save MIA's life. David doesn't really know how serious Mia's drug addiction has become. Her friends clue him in - and one of the 5 is a nurse that has worked through cold turkey cases in hospitals and wants to spare MIA the condemnation that she's experienced patients going through in places like that, thus... the old family cabin. Yes, Raimi's car is actually in the script. So be happy.
As MIA begins suffering the withdrawl symptoms - she begins to actually experience some of the phenomenon's associated with another idiot in the cabin, who like a complete dumb fuck, has of course begun reading out passages from the Necronomican. Why people would ever read out loud text written in blood in a book bound with the skin of a human screaming face... well, it's beyond me. But if you're a character in an EVIL DEAD movie, you're gonna do it. And shit will hit fans everywhere.
Once the shit has started... you'll get most of what you love about this universe. Characters that become possessed, using their visage to torment their loved ones. Their faces transforming into horrible visages, eyes going black. Just... to be honest - as written, this script is tougher than EVIL DEAD. The things that the possessed do, as described... shaving off parts of their faces with shards of broken mirror... But acting as though it is nothing. Like it is a basic grooming act. It gets real real nasty.
Now - where MIA & ASH depart from one another. What doesn't seem to go down, is the heroic transformation in to Deadite-AssKicker supreme. So don't expect warrior princess stuff. She does get into it. She will wield a chainsaw - but you won't see her in the toolshed, rigging up a device to attach it to her stub while saying the word, "GROOVY".
There are moments that she could grab some iconography... but her character is just intrinsically different from ASH.
What this absolutely feels like is EVIL DEAD 1, but played even more realistic. Is that what it'll be at the end of the day? I don't know. If I heard they hired KNB and were going to do very little CG, my confidence would grow. There's something about the fx of the original films that just works for the universe they created - the sound design, the editing concepts, the wierd insane energy they got from putting a camera on a board and running around at ground level with it. There's so much that goes into the making of a proper EVIL DEAD film besides just having a really solid script.
This is a very emotional EVIL DEAD film... and the original was emotional too. It's just a different starting point, different characters... but the horror they are forced to endure is terrible. The amount of hurt going on here is just excruciating. But the script reads like NC-17 - especially if you have my sick imagination. But at the end of the day... it will SWALLOW YOUR SOUL, as a good EVIL DEAD story should.
One last thing that I want to talk about is this. I am not entirely sure that this film is starting THE EVIL DEAD story over. In fact, I suppose you could just believe that the book gathered itself back together - that the cabin didn't get destroyed when ASH got sucked into the distant mythological past. And we could be headed to a MIA eventually having a sequel where she'll have a chance to pucker for the Bruce. But that sugar is being saved for another story. Or perhaps not at all.
At the very least, it looks like Raimi & Campbell want to play in this universe with a younger set - and if that's what it takes to get that universe kicking ass again, I'm cautiously optimistic. The real curiousity is how Fede Alvarez shoots this beast. I've seen his awesome short film... but that's not at all what he's written here. On the page, this reads like an EVIL DEAD flick, now that poor bastard has to shoot this thing and beat the fuck out of his actors. I hope Raimi and Campbell are off camera throwing shit at everyone's heads. As it should be.
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Feb. 4, 2012, 6:57 p.m. CST
Also does she have a boyfriend/girlfriend while she is in the cabin?
by KilliK
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Feb. 4, 2012, 6:58 p.m. CST
And is she the only one who has a clue what is going in the cabin but nobody else does
by KilliK
because they are scared shitless?
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good to know.
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it destroys any chance of having a real sequel, with Raimi and The Chin. So fuck this reboot, fuck it up his ass. I won´t even download the turd.
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Maybe I should give snow a rest.
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Gotta have the '73 Oldsmobile Delta 88!
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Feb. 4, 2012, 7:10 p.m. CST
Will it be the Evil Dead equivalent of Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
by Arcadian Del Sol
oh yes. yes it will.
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Stop holding your breath. They would have never made another sequel. Remake or no remake. If they haven't made a sequel by now, then they'll never make one.
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...I'm guessing that's a 'clever' riff on her being 'Missing In Action' from life etc, etc
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Feb. 4, 2012, 7:16 p.m. CST
This is a now a franchise for a new generation. I will cherish mine.
by Pixelsmack
Have fun kids.
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Yes (double ending) No (your version of the double ending)
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Not a word.
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only if they suck exclusively from the CGI cock
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how long until they announce this will be PG 13 to up the box office take?
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For me Evil Dead 2 was the pinnacle of the Franchise. I liked ED1 and really wanted to love Army, but it got a little too slapstick for what I had hoped it would be. ED2 is still the shit though. The only good thing a new ED will do is to hopefully point a New Generation back to the classic source material.
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They'd need to dub a great deal of the movie, the script has quite a potty mouth. The gore descriptions alone have it flirting with NC17 depending on how they shoot it.
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Feb. 4, 2012, 7:32 p.m. CST
You know that horror you feel when you ask someone if they've seen THE THING and they think you mean the crappy new one?
by IAmTommyWiseau
Prepare for that shit all over again.
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Neither should you be crazy excited yet. Like I said, reading the script is an exercise in my own imagination dreaming my preferred version of the script. Till we see trailers - and honestly, until the first folks start seeing the finished film, we should all just be cautiously optimistic at best. We have a really untested director helming this - and for this to be awesome, he'll have to be awesome. And that's something none of us know right now.
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Feb. 4, 2012, 7:34 p.m. CST
is it psychedelic and scarily cartoonish? because Evil Dead 1 wasnt just straight horror
by awepittance
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or is this project canned?
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Sorta the same thing except without Rami's film style. That's what mad the Evil Dead series work. Will be interesting to see the trailer, but this is a series that I don't think will work as a remake.
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Feb. 4, 2012, 7:41 p.m. CST
Yes iamtommywiseau, I do brotha. I played the original at my bar today and some hipster chick asked me that.
by ToughGuyRizzo
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Hard to say. She says she just did a polish. The Draft I read was from late October, months after Diablo had apparently turned in her draft. I could feel moments that felt a tad Diablo-esque, but that might have been me projecting. But her name is not on this draft - just Fede Alvarez & Rodo Mendez
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Feb. 4, 2012, 7:46 p.m. CST
toughguyrizzo - You should have smashed a bottle in her FACE
by IAmTommyWiseau
I don't like violence against women but, for committing the dual crimes of a being a hipster AND ignorant about THE THING, she obviously would have deserved it.
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trippy shit definitely occurs, and there are moments where Deadite controlled beings are singing... being profane as hell... fucking with your head - but will we have the playful insane sound effects? We'll have to see the film for sure.
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first he has to finish OZ
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Feb. 4, 2012, 7:51 p.m. CST
i cant remember the last time i was blasted with such loud sound in a theatre since Drag me to Hell & Spiderman 3
by awepittance
Sam Raimi must have some special pass to crank the volume up of his showings or something. I feel cheated when i go into a movie now and the sound is relatively weak
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I looked at her and was like, "no, this is 1000X better." I also had to do a big shot of Jameson cause she was so hip while drinking her PBR, texting and talking to her "like, oh my god," girlfriends. However, we did screen some of Star Wars Uncut and the bar was all into it. Good times, save the soulless hipster. We show Fringe there almost every week if any of you dudes are in NYC.
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Feb. 4, 2012, 7:53 p.m. CST
A girl named MIA (M.I.A., get it?) excercising her drug/alcohol demons (get it?)
by Wookie_Weed
Seriously, I'd fail a screenwrititng student for this if I was a teacher.
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Feb. 4, 2012, 7:54 p.m. CST
Fucking hell, I'm spelling and grammarising in a tormenting teasing giggily manner
by Wookie_Weed
I need spellcheck. After years of AICN, my brain hurts.
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We really don't want to know how Yoko seduced you into the sack, Harry.
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I can just imagine in my head exactly what you're describing, looking more akin to the design work of past Evil Dead's. Just seeing a weird, morphed out friend-turned-deadite just shaving the flesh from their face like it was nothing, and creating a mess all over. Then their friends watching in horror. Man I can only wish. Also remember, Raimi wasn't even a known director at the time either. I also trust this as long as Raimi helps steer this film a little. I remember reading here, probably some years back now, about Raimi looking to let someone shoot their own, new Evil Dead film. Bruce said he wouldn't reduce Ash to a simple cameo for cameos sake. Now, can they please get onto Evil Dead 4? Thanks.
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Feb. 4, 2012, 7:56 p.m. CST
As far as her going cold turkey/detoxin with some Sumerian text...
by wacko3205
Well...that sounds about par for the course as far as hallucinations, withdrawals, & demons goes. I'm in.
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Feb. 4, 2012, 7:58 p.m. CST
It's the pretentious hipster "drug addiction/demons" metaphor crap that I hate
by Wookie_Weed
I'm not against a remake per se... actually, fuck it, I am against an Evil Dead remake, full stop. The only reason Evil Dead is attached to this pathetic pretentious hipster crap is to get an audience -- otherwise, no one's going to see a pretentious hipster arthouse film about a girl excercising her drug demons and they literally come alive. Fuck that.
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Feb. 4, 2012, 7:58 p.m. CST
I don't get the purpose of script reviews, they're ultimately completely meaningless except the sad fanboy appeal of 'lookee at me I've read the script'
by quantize
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and meaningful. The writers will win Oscars.
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Feb. 4, 2012, 8:01 p.m. CST
Notice a bunch of new talkbackers you've never seen before, gushing over how excited they are?
by Wookie_Weed
Plant plant plantity plant
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Some time ago, like I mentioned in my post. He wanted to let a new director take a crack at it, and remake Evil Dead for the current generation of filmgoers, not just for fans of the series he created. He's still overseeing this I'm sure and I know one day they might go back and create my Evil Dead 4.. before they're too old.
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really doesn't appear in the first Evil Dead. The first movie really was just meant to be a serious gorefest of a horror film, and none of the trippy weirdness and intentional tongue-in-cheek humor of the second two movies was in the first. Any laughs you get out of the first movie is unintentional. Personally, I think that you can feel the earnestness of the first movie in every take, and that's one of the reasons that I love it so much. It's lightning in a bottle, and this remake can only succeed as a gorefest horror movie, but not a true remake of the original. Having said that, if it really does push the boundries of gore and the Deadites are done right, I will see it if @groovybruce tells me to.
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I really hope Fede Álvarez knocks it out of the park. And that the powers that be will bring in KNB and allow those Pro's to make some Magic.
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I can only hope that this fails, if only to show Raimi and Campbell that they should have given the fans that made this franchise what it is more of what they wanted. It may be a good movie, but it's certainly not Evil Dead in any way...
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I think this sounds fantastic. I love that they haven't chained themselves to the original. It will never be equalled, and even if it somehow were, the fans would never admit it. Their best shot at remaking this successfully is to preserve the basic concept of the original, and then seriously fucking shit up in that universe. Just a down and dirty gorefest, what Tobe Hooper used to call, "a horror movie to scare the shit out of you." <br><p> I'm not a huge fan of Juno, but Cody's a hell of a writer (did you see Young Adult?). At this point there are only three things that concern me: <br><p> 1. I want this to be horrifying. I want it to go even further than the first Evil Dead in its physical and mental torture of the main character. I am concerned that no Hollywood movie has the balls to put a female through the things they put Ash through in the first movie. These days women in horror are either allowed to be naked retards who get killed quickly, or Sigourney Weaver badasses who blow shit up. The main character in an Evil Dead film should be neither. I don't want her to take charge at the end and find inner strength she didn't know about. It's far, far scarier to fight and fight and fight and after all of it, realizing you're just to far in over your head. What George Carlin called, "shit out of luck and jolly well fucked." Again, I just don't see them having the balls to portray that. <br><p> 2. Shaky-cam. I abhor it. I can really only think of a handful of films where it worked. The majority of its use is thoughtless and distracting. Raimi really understood kinetic filmmaking. His was controlled chaos. I have a feeling the way a lot of particularly graphic modern horror films are getting around the ratings board is by shaking the camera so much during intense scenes that you really don't see as much as you thought you did. In an Evil Dead movie, fuck that concept. When the horror starts, I want the camera to zoom in where a normal movie would cut to black and give us a gushy sound effect. <br><p> 3. CG. It's unavoidable. I guess. CG blood will never look anything like karo, though. An Evil Dead picture MUST be messy. We made it decades upon decades without computer graphics, I'd love to see one movie, even if it's just as a gimmick, shun their use. Also, remember the key word: messy. There's a tendency in modern monster movies to make demons or zombies just look like people with really bad colds or infections. Fuck that. The possessed in Evil Dead need to look like bloated, rotten corpses. I want to be made sick to my stomach. <br><p> BONUS DEMAND: Please no show-off slick cinematography. I know we're all supposed to hate Rob Zombie's movies around here, but take a look at the work his DP's did in Devil's Rejects and Halloween II. He convinced the studio to let them shoot on Super 16, they used a great deal of natural light during the day, and kept the night scenes lit very spare and minimal. It had all the perks of modern film clarity, but also the otherworldliness, grain, and I'm sorry, grime, that comes with Super 16. I don't know. It could be fun.
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I just don't have a good feeling about this. My fingers are crossed, though. I really would like this to be a good movie.
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What is your gut feeling... Is this just another in a line of Torture/Horror Porn that exists for no other reason than to titillate and shock like Serbian Film or Human Centipede; or are they trying to make a solid well rounded Horror film.
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I like PBR but now whenever I order it I feel like I'm pledging allegiance to a crowd I don't want to be in.
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Feb. 4, 2012, 8:37 p.m. CST
...and seriously, I don't have a problem with this at all. In fact I have a good feeling about it. I just hope Diablo Cody doesn't fuck it up too much with her "clever hip dialogue".
by Elgyn6655321
For-real-ee-oos.
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... with "The DEAD will rise..." as the poster tagline. Yeah, that would cement things perfectly.
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Sounds like a dull, plodding, joyless, unimaginative dirge. A complete waste of time.
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Fuck Evil Dead IV. I love Sam, Bruce, and Rob to pieces, but these guys really aren't horror fans. They only made one horror film: the original Evil Dead. And they only made that a straight horror film, and they've admitted this, because those were the easiest to get into drive-ins and grindhouses. As soon as they'd had a little success, their true passion (goofy humor) quickly took over their projects (Crimewave, anyone?). I think they're all different people now, and that should be respected. Spiderman 3 should have proven to everyone that Raimi works best when he's passionate about his material. If none of them are hip to Evil Dead IV, then I think the only two options are to let the franchise die, which is kind of stupid, or hand the reigns over to someone else. Let some new talented kid go nuts in their universe. It could be fun! I like that they've kept a lot of the important bits, like the original characters, to themselves. There are aspects of the Raimi/Campbell/Tapert films that don't belong outside of that trio, and should be left alone. I remain cautiously optimistic. <br><p> This is unrelated, and I'm nowhere near as talented as Raimi, but when I was in college, I did a trilogy of silly zombie films about my goofy friend Brandon as this Clint Eastwood type zombie slayer. They were awful, but we filled them with all our group's little in-jokes, and they were how I learned my way around cameras and NLE's. But that was several years ago, and it was not representative of who I am today or what I want to do. Even though I had a blast making them, and I put everything I had into their production, I was really just slacking my way through film classes. Whenever I run into those guys now, people are still asking when we're going to make another one, and I'm just not interested. I have changed so much, I told them the only way I'd make another is if it were total anarchy and destroyed the entire universe we had created. Then they lose interest. I wonder if Rami and company feel similarly.
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They usually are either giddily enthusiastic, or very coarsely aggressive in insulting "haters". More of the former here, but the latter will appear when the film gets closer to completion.
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did you read it with good? or was, like. it a good toatlly? and when girl-ash has it does it make for good? like in a movie?
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they're trying to make a well rounded horrific EVIL DEAD film. The script is a strong foundation. It'll just depend on how Fede shoots & casts.
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*jus sayin dancin' chick skeletor ? or whatever? just tryin' to ask it the question.. hard t
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But he lost me with Spider-Man 3. Well technically Spider-Man, but he slightly redeemed himself with Spider-Man 2. Anyway Spider-Man 3 was garbage and I didn't enjoy Drag Me To Hell at all. It was a weak attempt at what he used to do best. At least he gave me Evil Dead 2 and Darkman.
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It is, after all, the reason we all started coming here, low those many years ago. Now get the script for Man of Steel!
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... will the tree rape be a gang rape? I..I just...im watching Lockdown...its not as poignant as Jurassic Park tho... Harry..PLEASE
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.is the script a solid enough foundation to be a great film, based on what you read, if the director takes this script and knocks it out of the park how good can it be....
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Feb. 4, 2012, 9:57 p.m. CST
I actually like Harry a lot, I have no problems with the Head Geek
by Wookie_Weed
I'm just a group of very bitter, grumpy old cunts who have lost that movie magic, and yearn for the good old days.
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Feb. 4, 2012, 9:57 p.m. CST
So it's a more serious version of the original -- not exactly a selling point for me
by MooseMalloy
Funny how youth of today (20's and under) are such a serious lot. There was a lot more humor going on in the cold-war 80's. Maybe you can blame the internet for all this dramatic seriousness. Also Nolan.
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Not giving a flying shit. This is gonna suck so bad. Sorry, but we wanted ASH back. Not a shitty "but this is a continuation of the story," rehash. Not gonna watch. And I know you don't care. Cause neither do I. And Raimi isn't directing? Fuck this.
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An EVIL DEAD for a new generation? Kinda like the remake of THE THING? Or THE HILLS HAVE EYES? Or THE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE? yeah, no. Just like all those remake/reboots, I'll pass. Thanks, but no thanks.
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Feb. 4, 2012, 10:21 p.m. CST
Will you nerds chill the fuck out? Yeah, it's a remake....backed by the ENTIRE gang who made the original. It doesn't sound bad. Take a fucking Midol.
by Elgyn6655321
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Feb. 4, 2012, 10:22 p.m. CST
...everybody loves John Carpenter's "The Thing". REMAKE.
by Elgyn6655321
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Feb. 4, 2012, 10:22 p.m. CST
...everybody loves David Cronenberg's "The Fly". REMAKE.
by Elgyn6655321
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Doesn' sound like a remake... Could the cabin be a family heir loom in ASHES familia...
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A girl perching on counters and in the middle of an intervention, basically? This sounds fucking terrible.
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I just saw "The Thing" prequel and it made me wonder if they could just treat this new Evil Dead, as a prequel too. Why not? Instead of following the exact same story (including, giving her a chainsaw!), try to do something different. Sure, the story taking place at the cabin again, doesn't give too many options to be original. But re-telling the same story, without Ash, is not a good idea, imo. Make it prequel or a sequel.
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but this remake will have a lot to live up to after the first remake, Evil Dead 2.
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That sounds like a good idea to me. After all, what are the odds that Ash and his friends were the first to rent the cabin after the Necronomicon was placed there? And what are the odds they'd be the last? A sequel or a prequel makes so much more sense than a "reboot" that changes all parts of the original that made it a classic.
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It is a very strong foundation... but we just have to hope for the best from Fede. Other than his short film, we've nothing to really base expectations upon. Until we start seeing the Deadite designs, hear what makeup effects company is involved...
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Got a new source for scripts - just got like 30 of em. Will be reading them on the stairclimber at rehab. Next is Charlie Kaufman's upcoming
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Feb. 4, 2012, 10:54 p.m. CST
im sure it wont be rated that high, it will be pg13 like drag me to hell and have lame cgi
by Daniel
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good to see script reviews again
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This is not Evil Dead. Hopefully it will be good, but calling it "Evil Dead" was a huge mistake. I'll still see it, don't get me wrong.
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Feb. 4, 2012, 11:12 p.m. CST
@elgyn6655321 - the key words in your comments: John Carpenter and David Cronenberg.
by kevred
Really, you just made the point that you were supposedly arguing against.
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are we gonna see some tree action on this one? any vines gonna deflower a chick?.....or a guy even?
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Feb. 4, 2012, 11:30 p.m. CST
kevred - touche, my friend. But we don't know - supposedly this guy is good.
by Elgyn6655321
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Feb. 4, 2012, 11:32 p.m. CST
NOW....when they remake "Phantasm", I'll be royally pissed.
by Elgyn6655321
kevred
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loved Evil Dead 1 and 2 and enjoyed, to a lesser extent, Army Of Darkness.... I have high hopes for this... but if they film it with animatronics and puppets and then decide to "improve" it with CGI a-la The Thing 2011..... I'll have to fetch up my boomstick and pay the makers a visit......
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Good luck with the rehab.
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Feb. 5, 2012, 12:16 a.m. CST
Movie should end with all cast members dead, and the following post-credits scene:
by hank henshaw
A dumbass guy, in a blue shirt, bringing his girlfriend, Linda, to the same cabin we just saw all the people in the movie die in. Yep, I'm suggesting they should re-cast Ash. It's a reboot after all.
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Feb. 5, 2012, 1:50 a.m. CST
Magic of the original? Put your money where your mouth is "original" creators.
by Red
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Unless they absolutly have to. But since this chick brought along a goddamn nurse, one would think she would have also brought some suboxone, or at the very least, the nurse would have. Just saying...
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Fuck the new generation. If they get to rape the Evil Dead, I reckon we try and get across how annoying this shit is and remake Twilight before the last one comes out - but cast Woody Allen, Carrie Fisher and Bruce Campbell as the three leads. <p> I'd love that - we too could hide behind 'oh but it's not for you it's a generational thing'. I'm sure the Twilight fans would understand with good grace. <p> Additionally - this script review is so vague as to I query what the point was. "It's good but it depends how they shoot it" was all I got. How insightful.
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Feb. 5, 2012, 3:46 a.m. CST
Why the fuck do we need a drug addiction subplot in an EVIL DEAD film?
by lv_426
Did we need all kinds of intricate backstory for Ash in Evil Dead and Evil Dead II? Dude shops S-Mart and kills deadites. That is the fucking movie. Give me some sugar baby.
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but I'm with you on all this remake madness. I'm just fucking beyond tired and just don't care anymore. I predict just about every great/classic/cult film from my youth is going to be remade in the next decade or so. I'm not saying that Hollywood should never do remakes, but Jesus H. Christ is it seem like it is getting ridiculous or what?
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This remake lost me when you said rail thin drug addict perching on a countertop. THE DOJO HATES RAIL THIN DRUG ADDICTS PERCHING ON COUNTER TOPS.
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Plus rail thin drug addicts are weak as fuck. Physically (and probably mentally too) the absolute weakest you could get. This is a girl who's cardiac fitness level would be awful but also with zero muscle and zero weight behind her blows - in reality wouldn't be able to lift a chainsaw let alone wield one. She could whack you full force it'd probably hurt her more than you. However, what's the bet that by the climax of this movie she's capable of whacking deadite demons off their feet. Smacking them around, knocking them over, slicing them up like Lara Croft. Fucking ass. Terrible idea to have an unsympathetic lead character, but just as terrible to turn a twig-thin girl into an ass kicker.
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Wow this is the first post I've read in like fucking MONTHS that's actually something original and and fresh and a new perspective. Been a loooooong time. Good job Harry, one step at a time.. we CAN bring AICN back.
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...more please Harry.
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WORKSHED!
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Feb. 5, 2012, 8:57 a.m. CST
Re: Before Everybody Gets Too Angry About This ...
by ArmageddonProductions
This is gonna wind up shaking out pretty much like every other remake perpetrated in the last ten years: months or even years before it comes out, everyone will get outraged, the "new changes" will be scrutinized ad nauseum by the geek-boys, EW will do a huge spread on the casting and a couple of behind-the-scenes photos, the movie will come out, it'll make a couple of dollars opening weekend despite all the protesting and bitching and Best Buy cutout bins will be clogged with the "Unrated Director's Cut" DVD/Blu-rays for a year afterwards as it is completely forgotten, while the original it was based on gets a brief sales boost and everybody moves on to bitch about the next remake.</p><p> As for Cody, while I bear her no ill will, I have no idea why Raimi and company hired her to do "punch ups" on the script, especially based on the stench of JENNIFER'S BODY ... unless we can expect a lot of PG lesbian flirtation.
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Also whenever Harry gets one of these exclusives they are all about it. Ash is Evil Dead.
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Feb. 5, 2012, 9:07 a.m. CST
this is going to be the worst or second-worst horror remake in modern history
by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE
I wonder if it can top Friday the 13th?
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Feb. 5, 2012, 9:12 a.m. CST
re: "Mia is a drug addict, rail thin. A shadow of a person."
by buggerbugger
But still hot, right? One of those hot drug addicts you see in movies? We'll still be able to fap, right? Right?! Tell me I'm right!!
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She's talented, and I want to see more by her, but ED runs on testosterone, pure and simple. Just as both JUNO and JB ran on the opposite (which worked for them, but not ED).
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Or does it start fast and scary like the original? I don't want a slow getting-to-know-the-characters approach to this. The original is so rewatchable because it starts so fast and only picks up speed from there.
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bob1000, I suspect this one will start off shit and tedious. We'll have 40 minutes of subpar GIRL INTERRUPTED or SUCKER PUNCH with the heroin chic lead having arguments with her douche brother. Both of which will be played by shitty b-rate actors and so the scenes will carry the gravitas of a daytime soap. After 40 minutes of this redundant subplot it will turn into a CG assisted horror movie, which will recall THE THING (no not the good one), and by the end you'll be wondering why you didn't just stay at home and stick in one of the five copies of EVIL DEAD 2 you have on the shelf.
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I've just realized i'm hating on this movie without having seen it - without it even EXISTING in this Dojo yet. But I have seen the future for this film. And it is not good.
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Suggesting she needs to go through a radical diet or weight loss plan for this part is extremely insensitive and dangerous. That's not cool, Harry. Not cool at all.
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It's an Fx reel without zero narrative that gets by on stealing copyrighted music from 28 Days Later. Without that song, that short is nothing. It's disgusting to me that such a "short" got him a job in Hollywood.
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Didn't mean to use a double negative.
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It was a fun watch-things-blow-up video, but it was very much just a demo reel, and it lacked much style or pizzaz, two things Raimi's got coming out of both ends. My guess is he chose a young impressionable director that he can force to do his bidding. A proxy director. Which begs the question: why not just do it himself? With Bruce? When asked recently if he'd be in another ED movie, Bruce finally said, for the first time I think, a flat No, he was too old. I would argue that if he slimmed down a bit, he would still be fine in the role. Bruce is Bruce. He was very Bruce-y in "My Name is Bruce". He can be Bruce-y in ED4. Maybe he won't be doing flips in the kitchen like in ED2, but it could still work. In my dreams, anyway. (and yes, I do dream about the Chin. Constantly.)
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I suspect you're right. Or, almost worse, we'll get something like the Fright Night remake, which is . . . well, kind of watchable, but a pale, pale imitation of an 80s classic, done without any energy or passion. There was no new vision or idea or enthusiasm that hinted at a reason for that movie to exist. Just a hollow shell of a cash grab. Although the chick was hot. I would hate for a version of ED to be a hollow, energy-less shell. Part of me would die if that happened. The Prequels all over again.
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actually you can argue that it is not a remake but a new movie adaptation of the original short story in the Playboy Magazine. In the same way that Carpenter's Thing movie is a movie adaptation of the original short story and not a direct remake to the less faithful Thing from the 50s.
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Raimi, Lucas, Spielberg. Those three filled our youth with wonderful moments of celluloid goodness. What happened to them?
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Or Evil Dead. Which is the scarier way of saying this? There could be no creepier notion than evil dead. It's as iconic as Alien. Raimi used the steady cam the best it's ever been used. You can only ape this. So the way to go has to be ultra everything. Same thing only ape shit out like tarintino discovering what he can do with digital in a way nobody has thought of. In fact get Tarantino to direct. If there's 7 planes of existence -like the dead scientists who talked to mediums all over the world and then the messages were all assembled to prove the scientists were real and the mediums could not make it up. Well if that's true- then perhaps evil dead are the ones stuck in our plane where they shouldn't be. And there's only one way of handling mutherfuckers like that. You have got to call the ghostbusters.
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Feb. 5, 2012, 10:49 a.m. CST
I've had 3 glasses of Winona Ryder's brand Pussy Juice(tm) today and I feel just capital
by UltraTron
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shaving off parts of their faces with shards of broken mirror... But acting as though it is nothing.
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Fuzzy math?
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But you're right. It was a pale shadow of the original. Raimi, Tapert, and Campbell won't let us down though. Excited to see a trailer.
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The Thing is one. The Philedelphia Story is another (and it in turn was remade as a musical ten years later to lesser but fun results). Avatar was a pretty glorious remake of Dances with Wolves. Here's hoping that with both Raimi's and Bruce's involvement this will kick ass. But if they're both involved why not just make it themselves? Sigh. I just don't think it will feel like ED without Raimi behind the camera. Or Bruce in front of it, for that matter. They both have very distinctive styles which made the ED films what they are. It's kind of like having a Johnny Cash song without Johnny singing it. It can be good, even great, but it won't have the same vibe. In in ED's case, the vibe is all-important.
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Feb. 5, 2012, 12:20 p.m. CST
The Thing is not a remake.Unless you are talking about the 2011 piece of shit.
by KilliK
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Except the new Mad Max AT LEAST has the original director attached. The ED remake is not going to be good just because Raimi is producing...producers dont make movies work, they allow good work to be done if the principals are talented enough, its a director's medium...first time director with a shitty short/fx reel does not instill confidence. Spielberg produced Poltergeist in name only, he really took over for coked-out-his-mind Hooper and that's why its' a horror classic. Lets hope Raimi does the same here.
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And Kirk is a far more charismatic character than the mostly silent Max.
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About the only thing that seperates evil dead from similar horror movies is the gory humor and A S H!!!! Grooooovy? I doubt it!
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Like Catwoman on the ledge of a building? Why would she do this? Why not just sit in a fucking chair as she burns up from withdrawl?
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um,they didnt replace with a woman you know..
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Feb. 5, 2012, 2:41 p.m. CST
All I Want To Do Is *POP POP POP POP* -- and a *GUNCLICK-CHING* Take Your Money
by MooseMalloy
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Feb. 5, 2012, 2:49 p.m. CST
If they can't make ED4 because Bruce is too old or whatever reason, at least bring Ash, the character back.
by hank henshaw
Hint Ash will be back for the "Nu-Evil Dead 2: Deader by Dawn". It's ok if this new, first ED is a typical, run of the mill, horror movie, if we are promised that the sequel will be closer to the madness of Evil Dead 2.
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Feb. 5, 2012, 3:09 p.m. CST
but we just have to hope for the best from Fede. Other than his short film, we've nothing to really base expectations upon.
by CraigGilmore
Hey Harry, No offence mate but Raimi had hardly proven himself before The Evil Dead came out either. I'm a bit surprised at how cautious you are being in terms of not committing to whether you think it will be a strong film or not. Everything you've said about the script seems to paint a good picture - they're making a new Evil Dead film, from what I can gather. And Alvarez has talent with a camera (re: his short). Not sure why you're forgetting that Raimi was unproven but came out of nowhere absolutely swinging. Alvarez, at least at this point in his career with this being his first feature, is already in a better place than Raimi was. Cheers, Craig
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Bruce owns that role -- owns it in a way no one else will ever be able to touch it. For all the fanboy nitpicking about this or that in the present redo, people would FLIP. THEIR. SHIT. if the film were starring ASH without Bruce. The performance would either be an imitation or a complete rewrite of the character, and in the latter case folk would ask why they didn't just name the character something else for fucksakes, and I think they're smart to save themselves the headache. I'm down for this, whatever it turns out to be. If it's a THE THINGening again, so be it. But I like taking it back to straight horror, and I dig that for all appearances they aren't trying to redo the original so much as have another take on the material. Why not? Does Raimi's involvement buy no quarter?
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... with another idiot in the cabin, who like a complete dumb fuck, has of course begun reading out passages from the Necronomican. Why people would ever read out loud text written in blood in a book bound with the skin of a human screaming face... well, it's beyond me.
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Only half of my comment posted... ... with another idiot in the cabin, who like a complete dumb fuck, has of course begun reading out passages from the Necronomican. Why people would ever read out loud text written in blood in a book bound with the skin of a human screaming face... well, it's beyond me... The demons are summond in The Evil Dead and it's sequel by the RECORDED translations of the book of the dead. The book was found and translated by Prof. Knowby This is explained in the both movies... at lenght. You....have fucked up son.
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Star Trek has had many captains, which is why its so easy to accept Pine. Mad Max and Evil Dead have only one iconic lead each. it's an apples and oranges comparison my friend.a
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Yeah, no thanks.
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The new guy doesn't work for me at all. He has little charisma and none of the character of Shatner as Kirk. He's just a pretty face with weird eyes. Seriously, his eyes creep me out.
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this sounds pretty great... for me to poop on!
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Feb. 5, 2012, 11:34 p.m. CST
I'm not saying recasting Ash is a great idea, but no Ash, is EDINO.
by hank henshaw
Every good, bad and generic horror franchise, has a female hero. Evil Dead was different. On the other hand, I don't believe any actor "owns" any role, specially if it's for popcorn movies like this one. If they can find the right actor for the part (that isn't just a Bruce Campbell impersonator or look-alike), why not? Easier said than done, I admit.
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Feb. 6, 2012, 5:07 a.m. CST
Wait a min.... Is this a sequel? prequel? Anything linking to the Ash timeline???
by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz