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ABC Has Cast The Lead In Its Future Nuclear Nation Pilot!!
And They’ve Chosen Wisely!!
The great Andre Braugher (“Homicide,” “Gideon’s Crossing,” “Men Of A Certain Age”) has been cast as the lead in ABC's “The Last Resort,” a pilot about a U.S. submarine crew that decides to ignore a suspicious order, take over a NATO listening outpost and use the sub’s 24 nuclear warheads to declare itself a new nation.
Braugher will play the sub’s captain, Marcus Chaplin.
The ensemble drama will be set on a secluded island to help viewers think they’re watching “Lost.”
The pilot was scripted by Shawn Ryan, whose earlier creations include “The Shield,” “Terriers” and “The Chicago Code.”
Find Deadline’s exclusive on the matter here.
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The first thing I always think when I see or hear him is "Hey it's the big Pussy from Glory!!" Love this guy, amazing distinct voice.
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occupy tiki
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I don't care that everything takes place on islands these days... this actually sounds great.
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It'll be like 24 meets Crimson Tide with more than a dash of Smash!
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that had a plot similar to this? What was it?
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Because that's kind of what it sounds like. Sort of.
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Feb. 3, 2012, 10:05 p.m. CST
Great concept, but if this show lasts more than a season or two...
by Linguo_IS_Dead
than it will have jumped the shark. A show like this clearly has an endgame, and if it goes on too long the overall story will just get silly (ala LOST).
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Good call, Maelstrom. <p> <p>Also, I thought from the headline that it meant they case the guy who played the old as fuck knight from "Last Crusade". Or the hot German blonde. Hell, I half considered the possibility that Harrison Ford accepted a role for television. <p> <p>But seriously. This basically does sound like "Outer Heaven", the TV show, only without a kick-ass robot. Which sadly makes it less interesting already.
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Best part if the book, I doubt it will be in the film though.
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but I'd trade this and anything else like it for a second season of Terriers, dammit.
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Mark my words. The Teabagger crowd will tune in for a few episodes before they find out that it's not just another program they can tune into to be told they're right. Why a few episodes? Because they're slow... http://tinyurl.com/6qedm3w SCIENCE! This show really could be fun though. As long as it doesn't focus on some goofy estranged father/son dynamic. You know what I mean. *You killed mom!!* *I had to leave you for your own good.* *Blahdeeblahdee blah feelings, brood, sulk, blow things up, blame dad.* *Final scene, they reconcile just as daddy dies. Que sad violins, tears.* And if it turns out there's a mysterious *other* group of people on the island, I'll tune out immediately. I'd love an action-packed, good and brutal action/drama on TV. Without time travel, super powers and alternate universes. The *what if* element is good enough. Can't wait to see how it turns out. Yes, I'm griping, but I'm also enthusiastic about seeing it.
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How exactly would an Ohio class ballistic sub with a crew made up of about 13-15 officers and about 130-140 enlisted sailors that has limited amount of small arms and ammunition available to them and no useful training in ground combat hold an island against a determined assault of Rangers or SEALS Or MARSOC or Battalion Recon? Christ on a crutch an MEU would take them in about 5 minutes How exactly would a single Ohio class ballistic missile sub survive submerged when the ocean would be crawling with every available Los Angeles, Virginia and Seawolf classes of fast attack subs? You know subs whose job it is to hunt and take out boomers would be stalking them. How exactly would a surfaced, and I assume, berthed sub at the island, survive a large scale attack of bombers? hell one nuclear missile launched from another Boomer aimed at the island would take care of the problem. This idea is retarded. Come on Shawn Ryan you gave me the excellence that was Terriers this not very well thought out crap is beneath you.
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Feb. 4, 2012, 12:27 a.m. CST
Sure, Andre's good. But what's with the trash truck load of crap concepts?
by kabong
Network executives should start reading scripts written by people other than their catamites.
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Promise?
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Don't get me wrong, I love Andre Braugher, he's easily in my top 10 greatest living actors! But I can't shake the feeling he's not around for the long haul. Silver lining: maybe he'll come back as House's therapist.
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YOU STUPID BUNNIES! You got no mates! Where are mates?! WHERE ARE CHICKS?! Plenty trouble for you! You need MATES!
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Feb. 4, 2012, 3:03 a.m. CST
Shawn Ryan's writing on Angel was great and The Shield was outstanding
by slayme
i'll definitely give this a shot
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Like anyone cares. He was great in Glory, I still love him.
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It was called THE SILENT SERVICE and ran from 1988 to 1996. At least this time Hollywood steals from a good source.
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Feb. 4, 2012, 8 a.m. CST
I'm sure there was a cold war film about a sub crew that were the last survivors
by Col. Tigh-Fighter
And set up somewhere after WW3. Quite good, if I remember
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Feb. 4, 2012, 8:34 a.m. CST
tigh-fighter I think you're thinking of On The Beach ... I think
by tangcameo
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"On The Beach" is the film you're thinking of. Wonderful and heart-breaking.
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and he has to do shit like this to get a paycheck.
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The U.S.Navy will severely frown upon a captain going rogue and absconding with a ballistic missile submarine (nuclear powered boomer - large price tag), its misslies (nukes with multiple warheads - $$$cha-ching!$ and somewhat dangerous), and the crew (trained U.S.Navy property). This won't last long after they tie up to the island, plant a flag, and point their missiles. I can only see this working after an "On the Beach" scenario. Col. Tigh-fighter, that's the movie you were talking about. After a nuke-war, a U.S. sub wanders around the burnt remains of the Earth looking for survivors or a place to call home. ...and what about the NATO outpost? I think there might be some other pissed-off countries involved here... No happy times for the tiny island country of Wegotnukesia.
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Thats the one, guys! Thanks! I do remember it being a bit heartbreaking too. And hell of a cast as well. But I wont have seen it in over 20 years I bet.
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The ensemble cast is set on a secluded island to make people think they are watching Gilligan's Island.
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One can only pray that they bring a special ops out of retirement and send him to the nuclear station in a one-man underwater transportation device (OMUTD). He has no room for firearms. There will be floating boxes with weapons on site.
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Interesting premise for this show, but I'm waiting for the liberal sucker-punch. Oh, and fuck 'Smallville' for it's sucker-punch 10th season. After being a fan for 9 years I stopped watching after the 4th episode. Tom W. was the executive producer on that show...I hold him responsible.
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that lead into the best TV shows. well... chicago code seemed a bit like 'the shield-lite', but i live in chicago, so i loved it.
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The guy has earned it. If you never watched THE SHIELD then you have missed one of the most consistently good TV shows of all time. As for why the US Navy doesn't just immediately hunt down a rogue sub, maybe the "suspicious order" is from a rogue element in the White House or DOD that was trying to bypass the President. I could imagine that would throw everything into chaos in DC for a while. Just guessing here. Whatever, all I know for sure is that if Shawn Ryan is making this, I'm watching it.
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fuck's sake!
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He does love to "act".
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...plus I've seen him here in Jersey a few times and he's a nice guy. Hope this show has legs. Or sea legs as it were.
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Feb. 4, 2012, 1:36 p.m. CST
Remember when he was in Fantastic Four 2 and he had like one line?
by spacehog
I was already considering turning the movie off, but when Braugher showed up as barely more than an extra, shit, that's when suicide seemed the more appropriate response. Fuckin' amazing on Homicide, really deserved (still deserves) an A-list career. I almost certainly won't watch this show but I hope it does well, just so he has a chance at something I actually would like to watch. Is that selfish? Do I need to watch this dumb concept just to support him?
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Feb. 4, 2012, 2:07 p.m. CST
This idea is stolen from the plot of the Japanese Manga "The Silent Service" from 1988
by Meta
It later became an anime series too. Although, I doubt they'll acknowledge it.
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XO maybe, but he's got another ten years before the US Navy would give him command of one of their Boomers. Only the most senior of senior officers are handed the keys to the most lethal weapons man has ever created.
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This concept is lame. It won't last past the first season.
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Feb. 4, 2012, 4:44 p.m. CST
Guest starring Ringo Star as the president of Antarctica
by SiouxCitySarsaparilla
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It pops up once in a while on Turner Classic Movies. Definitely heartbreaking but sometimes surreal. Surreal; That bit near the end where Fred Astaire (Fred Astaire?!) takes his own way out. Heartbreaking;The scenes at the fishing resort where the drunks sing Waltzing Maltida for five minutes of the movie (or the whole day from their perspective) and then when they sing it for the last time, so slow and so in harmony, as Peck and Gardner kiss, you get the feeling that it IS the last time, ever. p.s. And every time I see Fergie of BIP now I think "Ava!"
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has so much potential, but whoever cited all his failled series nailled it. He's been largely wasted and really needs a good vehicle to showcase his work.
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Feb. 4, 2012, 7:10 p.m. CST
Braugher is great. The problem is no one has given him a great role since Pembleton.
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
The guy is an acting machine. He can do anything. I'll see this just for him.
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Feb. 4, 2012, 7:11 p.m. CST
This sort of reminds me of Crimson Tide because of the orders
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
or the ambiguity thereof.
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Feb. 4, 2012, 7:14 p.m. CST
what a dumb concept. they have 1 sub. that leaves....uhm.. at least 40 that can retaliate.
by Arcadian Del Sol
but they have nukes
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Feb. 4, 2012, 7:23 p.m. CST
Reading this just made me really wish...
by The_Guy_Who_Invented_Coca_Cola
...World War Z had been a (mini)series instead of a movie. If it was even halfway competent it would have been the best TV show ever.
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It wasn't until 2010 the women were finally allowed to server on US Navy submarines. Even with the new regulations there are very few women serving on subs now. So unless that NATO listening outpost is staffed only by women that island will be a sausage fest.
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Kaiwi Kawaguchi is a realist mangaka who got noticed with this rather nationalistic take on the relationship between the U.S. and Japan. He also came out with a vast rendition of a reimagined Pacific War, "Zipang", in which a 21st Century Japanese frigate, the Mirai, ends up in 1942 Japan and helps keep the U.S. Navy at bay, forcing a negotiated end to the War in the Pacific. Naturally, this is an Americanized version of Silent Service, and Kawaguchi probably won't be paid a dime.
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Homicide - greatest cop show ever! Men Of A Certain Age was great - should not have been cancelled!
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There's always something else going on under the surface of their projects, be it subtextually (Tron 2) or grand-scale real-world experimentation (LOST)... I'll be curious to see what this show has as its real agenda.
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Feb. 5, 2012, 8:52 a.m. CST
Xiphos, I don't think you really understand deterrence theory
by FluffyUnbound
If they have the nuke codes, if you launch a SEAL strike on them you have to have a 100% chance of success or you lose. They don't even have to retarget the nukes. Leave them pointed at Russia, and announce, "Anybody attacks us, even with small arms, and we launch at Russia." Then Russia's entire defense structure just got incorporated into your deterrent. If you can hit them with an attack sub while they're still at sea you have a good chance to win. But 12 hours after they dock it's not safe to attack them. Maybe less. And we don't know the whole setup. There could be any number of additional factors at play. For example, to me the most interesting question here is WHY. Why do these guys go rogue? Are they just mad dogs, or is there something wrong with the US at this point? A coup? A dictatorship? Social disorder? Any number of things could have degraded the ability of the US to respond quickly and with the necessary alacrity.
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Thank you for explaining such big boy defense theory to me but I understand deterrence theory just fine, I've written several papers on the subject, but it's just that a theory reality always trumps those sorts of theories. As presented in the synopsis the boat has already gone rouge there is no way the US government(let alone any other government who would want to recover the technology and specs) would let a boat dictate to them their response. One boomer doesn't have the capability to stand off the combined power of the American armed forces, its not a nation state, it's a single boat. its about 150 odd men, 24 birds with 8 of them being MIRV capable, like I said above one nuke launched from another boat would stop the problem in it's tracks. Then there is the targeting issue of the birds. I'm not 100% positive since I'm not in the Navy, nor a submariner or have ever been on an Ohio class boat, but I think that attack info is sent to the boat they can't, or maybe, have limited ability to select targets themselves. I could be wrong about that but its rational to think that the Navy would limit the ability of the boat to select targets willy nilly because of the potential for a situation like this to occur. On the nuts and bolt technical level once the boat is on the surface its an easily acquired target for an array of retaliatory response such as aircraft or missile strike. Also its vulnerable to tracking by satellite/aircraft which in turn feeds real time intel for a ground/air/water recovery operation or destruction by a fast attack sub. A berthed boat, outside of a protected Navy port, is highly vulnerable via overland, airborne, air assault or swimmer attack(or a combo of them) that's why the Navy spends millions on port security. The boat and personnel could be neutralized before missile launch since they don't have the arms nor the training to put up much resistance against highly trained ground forces. Underwater an Ohio class missile boomer is toast it can't survive let alone beat a hunter pack of fast attack subs. Let me ask you this and then answer it for you do you think that SEALS and to a lesser extent MARSOC(Fleet Force Recon previous to 06) haven't trained to recover lost boats(ours or others)? the answer is yes BTW. There are people in the Navy and Marine Corps and civilian defense think tanks that game plan these scenarios endlessly and Operators that practice and refine those ideas.
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80s TV.
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Feb. 6, 2012, 8:21 a.m. CST
xiphos_2: ''they can't, or maybe, have limited ability to select targets themselves''
by spacehog
You have not taken into account the Wesley Crusher-type genius junior officer/stowaway/ghost of the captain's dead kid who will ''hack the Gibson'' on the sub and allow them to do anything.
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Feb. 6, 2012, 9:23 a.m. CST
He was one of the best things about "The Mist" remake.
by Cletus Van Damme
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So it's going to be GOOD.
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Feb. 6, 2012, 10:24 a.m. CST
Nuke Subs Can't Go Rogue is the new Wolves Don't Attack People
by durhay
There always has to be "that guy"
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You have the tactics down cold, but you still are completely blowing it on the strategy. Unless we have a space-based particle beam weapon you or I don't know about, the problems with every last one of those options you mentioned are time and execution. This isn't a case of SEAL snipers shooting a couple of punk Somali pirates in the head. You need a mode of attack that reliably takes less time than it takes to launch the birds, and you need to be 100% sure that you will execute it 100% properly. Because the downside of failure is so high. The entire chain of command was shitting its pants all through the Osama raid, because of the possibility of something going wrong. And something DID go wrong - one of the stealth helicopters shit the bed. You are always one human or equipment failure from a strike going all Desert One. So the math is, "What is the downside of failure relative to the downside of not doing anything?" The downside of failure here is nuclear strikes against populated targets. What's the downside of doing nothing? Political embarrassment. That's why the deterrence game theory is on the side of the rogues here. The American political structure can launch a special ops attack or some other kind of attack - and if the attack fails, or is detected before it can be effective, you might have 100 warheads in the air. Or the American political structure can wait the situation out or look for another solution. Game theory says Choose B.
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