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Harry's Adventures on the MS MAASDAM upon the FLOATING FILM FESTIVAL-- Boat Pt 1
This was posted from my hotel room in San Francisco...
This experience that I am currently living is... quite honestly one of the most unique experience that I believe someone of my generation can go through.
We have all had those... holidays with the Grandparents... Perhaps even gone shopping with them.... or even a vacation.
It seems to me that too many people have friends only in their own immediate age group... the same generation.
Being a film freak... I have never had a problem of conversation with any age group, because.. film is a common point of reference that transcends age.
Currently I'm on a boat that is... in the Pacific Ocean. The average age on this boat is probably in the sixties. There are perhaps a half dozen people under my age on the boat... and close to a thousand that are double it. And I'm loving this.
There is no internet. No telephones. I can't drive to a regular hangout with my friends. As I lay in bed, it rocks slowly back and forth. I step out on my balcony, and in the black inkiness of the night I can hear the crashing of waves, far off floating lights... somewhere... unseen is a bell dinging back and forth in the distance... I don't know where for sure. As I lean out onto the bar I can see lights illuminating the wake of the ship.... the churning white water parting to let this vessel pass by.
I can see the lights of the different rooms reflected in the ocean.
I visit a piano bar... the tickling of the keys... the music... a bit of Scott Joplin, a tinge of MY FAIR LADY... I pass the little Quartet room, and... my oh my... It's all music from another time... echoed most often in film.
There's a style and class aboard that is typically not apart of the universe that our generation participates in. Fine clothes, fine wines, fine companionship. Manners, a lack of four letter words and a sense of ease.
And as I ease around this ship... the M.S. MAASDAM... I find friendship with a different timeperiod. Talking about travelogues before feature presentations. Folks that remember the Holocaust as more than a subject in books and films. People that are trying to understand the conflicts and furor of the current generations.
Aboard this floating time machine I am visiting with over 200 fellow 'floaters'. These are Dusty's People. The friends and film goers that visit the TORONTO FILM FESTIVAL... This particular crowd are the 'youngsters' aboard. I think the average age drops to perhaps 58 or so here. They are film goers.
The films aboard are everything from TWO FAMILY HOUSE, the movie that won the audience award at SUNDANCE to THE TERRORIST... a haunting film that John Malkovich has been trumpeting.... to a film of violent fury like AMERICAN PSYCHO.
Now... One might feel that this crowd couldn't handle a movie of violence like AMERICAN PSYCHO... but you see... this is the same audience that first discovered and heralded... THE SILENCE OF THE LAMBS... Now that doesn't mean that AMERICAN PSYCHO will be a good or even great film... but this audience will watch it... and discuss it... and for that I am very very happy.
The driving force behind the festival is Dusty Cohl, the man most responsible, as far as I can tell, for the astounding success and vision of THE TORONTO FILM FESTIVAL.
Dusty, a character that... well you just kind of have to meet. You see... Let me describe how I first came to see this visionary cigar chomping man...
There I was, being led about on board.
"You have to meet Dusty!"
Well, I suppose I must. As I get led around, up 11 decks from where I first walked aboard. Past chandeliers and artifacts and treasures from around the world... past slot machines and blackjack tables... past the bronze dolphin adorned swimming pool, past the buffet lines and the bottles of fermented pleasures... Through motion sensor activated doors and atop the whole ship... wind blowing, beneath a giant deck umbrella... wearing a cowboy hat, a Floating Film Festival t-shirt, a old west looking weathered sun-tinted face adorned with a piercing gaze with flashlit eyes and a chesire smile chomped upon a blazing cigar... This was Dusty.
I tell you, after the trip through all this extravagance... being flown to a different hemisphere... pairing up with the DUDE... Coming aboard to meet with Roger... I had no mental image of what to expect from a 'Dusty'.
I know every other person that runs a film festival looks as if they have advanced colon cancer that is actively rotting away at them while also having a fair share of gut-wrenching strokes. NOT DUSTY.
All smiles... not a tense bone in his body. Completely at ease. He greets me... offers a seat, begins by asking me if the Dude and I had started the party without him. Indeed we had, as I'm sure you are aware from my previous chronicles.
I'm presented with a pin, a pin that I am quickly informed elevates me into the sacred society of... 'The Friends Of Dusty' and it must be worn at every festival... As of yet I am unaware of any code phrases or sacred handshakes... but then... even if I were aware of such fraternal and masonic-like activity, wouldn't I be forced to say that I have not heard of them, nor am I aware of any such things? And I would continue to say... Who is this Dusty that you are asking about?
Being bestowed with the rather terrible infliction of not being able to ever remember anybody's name ever, unless they are a relative, I've slept with them, or they are a personal friend of at least 6 months of constant interaction.... I will constantly be using a short hand... (P.S. This is one of the reasons why I give people Spy Names. It helps keep it all straight in this rather shrivled grape of a noggin I try to operate out of.)... to describe the people and the interactions of the folks I have met aboard this incredible odessey.
First there is Roger. He is so loose and in his complete most comfortable element aboard this ship that it's quite stunning. When he steps up to the mike... he just effuses energy and fire.
He tells stories of first meeting John Wayne upon the set of THE GREEN BERETS. There was a helicopter shot of the camp that day, and everyone not in uniform had to stay in buildings or beneath the trees... Well, Wayne was told that the 'young reporter from Chicago' was there. So Ebert began to see John Wayne move towards him. Dressed in full military uniform... complete with grenades, rifle, knife, gunbelt, etc... And as that gigantic screen icon reached out a hand to shake Roger's... Wayne said... and Roger said he'd never forget what John said.... Wayne said, "JOHN...WAYNE..." and shook his hand... as Roger stammered in a shaky staccato.... "I.i.i...i..I... na.. na. KNOW"
Story after story... I'll place them in front of the reviews... as part of the introduction.
When doing the show with Roger, usually our conversations have to be a bit... guarded as we can't talk about the immediate films on mind... As... those words and phrases must be saved for the camera... for the audience, but here... Here we are unbound in our enthusiasms and there is no timed end to the conversations. Not to say that I spend all my time on board this ship with Roger... quite the contrary. Roger is here to watch films and vacation a bit with his lovely wife.
Instead, I have been mingling with various other folks aboard this floating keg of life.
One chap is inventing basic social systems to test behavior using computer engineered models.
One beauty is the lady in charge of marketing for BLOOMINGDALES... including product placement in scores of film, exclusivity of of said product and so on.
A venture capitalist that is investigating the world of film, for his daughter (of 16) in Toronto wishes to go into the world of film, and he is trying to understand this, and to do some advance investigation into what that world may hold for a young woman.
There is a younger lady who is a part of some Toronto production company, for whom she is a development executive vacationing with her mother.
There is Richard Corliss and his wife Mary Corliss... well... perhaps I should explain how this festival works.
First off, there is a very interesting and different route taken to this festival. You see, the entire festival is programmed by film critic types... so you have films and presentations by Roger Ebert, Richard Corliss, Jim Emerson, Hannah Fisher, Kathleen Carroll, Mary Corliss, George Anthony and even me, Harry Knowles.
How are the results?
Well, we have indies, a lot of them. We have a film from India, Hungary, France, Scotland, Tibet, Iran, and Poland. 2 from China and England. 4 from Canada and 5 from the United States including... CITIZEN KANE presented FRAME BY FRAME by the dear Mr Ebert.
Now, does this format of having Critics pick the films for a festival guarantee nothing but top quality films? Well, that is always a matter of opinion, even if the choices are coming from paid connieseurs of cinema... That doesn't mean that you will like their latest curry dish or anis flavored flank. You may not have the tongue for it, the taste buds may be registered differently. But then... such is the way of film. It takes different things to float one's boat, but the one thing that is assured, is something... probably quite a few of the films will put some wind in your sails.
Before each film, a critic... one of the above... introduces the film... a fairly brief intro.... or an extensive one from Roger.... Whichever it may be... they tend to be the precise introduction to begin each film with. There are some questions from the audience... and the film begins.
There may be walkouts during the movie... most often it seems during subtitled features... Some are referring to these 'walkers' as being heathens.... The thought has crossed my mind though that perhaps... the lettering may in fact be hard to read for some tired eyes... which... knowing my own grandparents... can and is often the reason they choose not to watch foreign films.
When the film ends... there is always, it seems, a very lively film conversation about symbolisms, parallel thoughtlines... various interpretations that the audience goes back and forth with the various critics with. And... I find this actually far more interesting than the usual filmmaker-post-film conversations that I have attended, because... here... you don't have the questions like:
"What was the budget?"
answer: Not enough!
"Do you have a distributor?"
answer: Lion's Gate, Artisan, Fine Line, Sony, Miramax, USA Films or.... NO.
"How long did it take to make?"
answer: I wrote the script about 4 years ago, but it took a while to find someone to get behind it. But we shot it in 24 (or 36) weeks and post took about 5 months.
"What was it like working with such-n-such?"
answer: An absolute pleasure. I had no idea what to think going into the film with him/her, but he/she just brightened the set each day and we've become close friends with whom I won't work with again unless the financing is right.
"Where do you get your ideas?"
answer: I don't really know how to answer that question. Sometimes I'm on the toilet... Sometimes it's in the car... I just try to wrangle them all into a logical order with which to make a move that hopefully some of you could enjoy. (followed by applause)
"Would you read my next script?"
answer: You know... if you could see me after the Q&A I'll tell you how you can get it to me.
and so on.
However... HERE... at this FLOATING FILM FESTIVAL, the post-screening conversation are on film theory... thoughts of the plot, what worked and didn't work for various folks, and by the time you reach the end of this... I found myself quite ecstatic with the audience participation which quite often at other festivals, that I'm usually bored with.
And... because the attendees of the film festival are exactly the same number as there are seats in the theater... Well... heh. There are no lines to get in. You also get to be part of a very unique family of filmgoers.
It's strange... at first I thought.... "Whoa... not my crowd!" But as the festival is coming to an end... I find myself all set to miss these faces. And bound and determined to head up to Toronto this year for the TORONTO FILM FESTIVAL, to not only take part in the festival... but to again get to hang out with the Toronto crowd on this Festival.
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While some people don't see the point in stories like these, it's the "personality" that differentiates it from other sites. Now as for the people on board...average age in the sixties sounds like the age of the Academy board, and yet their tastes don't cling to the morally conservative. Or is it just all filmgoers have fickle tastes?
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Y'hello. Marcus from the Metreon here. Cool opening to this kick-ass story, which I hope will continue as a series of bizarre stories, such as the one you told us at the MicrosoftSF store. Take your time, man. Take all the time you need.
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please tell me how I can become one myself. Harry, you are going to piss so many people off with this story...so let me be one of the first one to say how incredible cool this is, how jealous we are of you, and that you keep in mind the little people. Try not to sell out. Thanks. -Loki
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It's a good point you made in the begining of your story Harry, about being a film geek transcending age differences. I would also add the bounderies of gender, class and race to the test of whether one is well rounded enough to really qualify being called a film geek.
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Old People. What can you say. You look at us "Young-ins" in this highly technical, rapidly over stimulating society and you think about the problems we have: Internet Service is Down for 15 minutes, Our Power steering fluid is low, our direct flight to Bangladesh is 30 min behind schedule. Life is becoming easier and easier for the common working man/woman. Advances in technology and industry have made the tedious problems of 50 yers ago a simplicity.
How jaded have we become, how much have we taken for granted the luxurious lifestyle we lead, even at the bottom feeder level. All these advances, these beautiful modernized mannerisms we live have all been dependant upon the past generations. We could not be where we are without The Scientists, the laborers, and most importantly, the Veterans who struggled and sweated in their primitive conditions to pave the road for our journey into the 21st century. Somehow they did this without the assistance of the internet.
I am proud to be an American citizen. Our society is not without flaws but it is what we make of it. we owe a dept of gratitude to our elders, just as they owe a dept to theirs. Tomorrow holds new advances in technology, medicine and geo-political relations. These are indeed exciting times to me alive, but not one day should pass that we do not thank God for what we have and where we got it from. Thank you my Grandparents and all your predecesors. Without you, I'd be lighting my monitor with a candle -
I think Harry's Floating Festival story would make a good film itself. How does "Thightanic" sound? But this time...they survive! Against all odds! Also, I doubt you watched Citizen Kane "frame by frame" as you'd probably still be on the boat. I think shot by shot is how Mr. Ebert's seminars usually go. We did the same thing with Kane back in film school. A truly eye-opening experience, and I'm sure much better with commentary from Mr. Thumbs Up himself. This sounds like an interesting idea for a film festival. What next, the South Pole Igloo Film Festival? "With a shot by shot analysis of Alive by Roger Ebert, followed by Nanook of the North." Or how about the Active Volcano Film Festival? "How many films can we see before the lava flows, featuring a shot by shot analysis of Journey to the Center of the Earth by Harry Knowles followed by a seminar comparing and contrasting Volcano & Dante's Peak!!!" Okay, I'm going to sleep. Sorry.
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Harry was invited to what is becoming a huge trend in cruise line packaging. A friend of mine will be on a 14 day cruise. The reason invited? Covers theatre for NPR. But will be mixed with leaders in fields as American poetry, short story, The art of Maya etc. Suffice to say this is the mid-to-upper income AARP nevertheless here is the "new senior" challenging their minds once again, opening themselves to fresh even provocative ideas. Harry, 20 years ago these people would have stared you down in contempt just by your Ben Franklin haircut and Dobie Gillis grooming. Now they're LISTENING to the likes of you and paying top dollar to do so. This is geek outreach, this is assurance for them that America is'nt going down the crapper when they checkout. Pause for a moment First this, then San Francisco...Harry, screw the felchers who are screaming Sell Out... Actually it's antithetic! Assimilation equals Impact. And kudos to these recent events where no articles of AICN trusts broken. Anarchy prevails, irreverance rules, and you fortunately are not the same person- you've gotten smarter.
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Yes. This is extremely cool news. Peace.
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I hope not. Sounds like fun, talking movies with some of the world's premier critics. Of course, the opportunity to talk to film geeks is one I never pass up. They make for the best conversation, easily. The rest of the world (the "herd", if you will) I probably wouldn't piss on if they were on fire, but oh well. That's just me.
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I'm not too worried, packaging is packaging. With those screenwriters at sea and novelists at sea programs, why not film critics at sea? I'm only worried if the ship sinks and then we have no one to tell if a movie is worth watching or not - kind of like the opening sequence of "King Ralph" or the ending scene of that Tom Clancy book that sends Jack Ryan into the presidency.
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great stroy, reminded e somewhat of when i was a t the londonf ilm festival in the way you meet thesefamous and respected film people.
keep up the site knowles, it rocks, i still say there was nothing wrong with the whole oscars deal, but hey, tharts just me.
its kinda cool that your huble lil website is treated like the bible by some though aint it.
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I had to miss the festival this year (why the HELL did I not opt for the downtown UofT campus), but I'm definitely going next time. Strictly for my own curiosity, has anyone here seen a Canadian film called "The Hanging Garden"? It is the finest piece of art Canada has ever produced (better even than Robertson Davies' work, which I adore), and *possibly* the greates film I've ever seen. Is anyone else a little underwhelmed by Citizen Kane? It may have been technically brilliant, but it just doesn't resonate for me; it lacks the uncanniness I associate with uncompromising dramatic genius. When someone calls a film epic, it must stand comparison to the Iliad. When it is called a tragedy, it must stand next to King Lear and not be diminished. On these terms, I don't see Kane as much more than great American cinema.
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Hopefully I'll get to meet him. =)
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I'm just posting to say "very good story". I wish...I wish...I wish that I could find that piece of mind and clarity aboard a ship full of old folks. This seems like one of those trips everyone should take-a trip through yourself. Keep on trandsending, all of you!--Saulot--
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Settle down...with those...ellipses...man. Jesus...christ.
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Feb 27, 2000 10:22:10 AM CST
WARNING: This post has the power to change the entire subject of
by el duderino
1. Has anybody seen the video cover for Fight Club yet?
2. Is Brad Bird overrated?
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That was nice. It's good to see that not every talkback has to devolve into moronic name calling and stupid arguments. Actually, I always thought Harry had a way with a story, and I kinda missed when he would tell the story behind his trip to the movies. And to answer your question, Brad Bird is not overrated. He is a God among animators.... or something.
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I thought this was an alright place to bring up the fact that Harry was named Loser of the Week in Entertainment Weekly for the whole Oscar Nominees the day before they were announced fiasco thingy. Of course I would never believe anything written in a magazine that called Man on the Moon the best movie of 1999 (Owen Gilbwhooha-whatever, you should be ashamed and then promptly fired).
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Ebert going frame by frame through "Citizen Kane" AND an exciting discussion of theme and symbolism. I'm dead serious when I say that would be the ultimate life experience for me second only to getting married and having children. Maybe even not second. If it weren't for Ebert's column on movie greats, I don't think I would have ever willingly went out and rented "Citizen Kane" on my own. If you don't think that movie is a masterpiece; if something didn't strike emotion and the realization you are watching movie greatness at its peak, you need to watch it again! You need to look carefully at every little nuance, every technique used to show the downward spiral of man because of his greed; for money, for power, for possesions, including human beings and their love. There is so much I could say about that movie that it wouldn't even BEGIN to fit into this Talk Back space. And Harry got to watch it being presented by one of my heroes. Once again, fairness of life eludes me.
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But my favorite is still the one where Harry and Moriarity infiltrate Burger King to see 15 minutes of Chicken Run!Hee hee,it always gives me a chuckle or five.Man,the Fight Club box is LAME.
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Harry, this is one of your best pieces of writing yet, truly. Felt like I was there. Forget about the Oscar thing and EW (the most smug and lifeless movie magazine on the market). If you're gonna mess with the big boyz, be prepared to get showered in rose pedals or luke warm piss, as the case may be. After this nautical adventure I can't beleive you left CABIN BOY off your sea poll below (that almost sounds dirty). That instant classic at least deserves the consideration of being put to a vote. Which brings me to how my friend saw Ti***ic 4 times in the theatre because, in his own words "the captain goes down with the ship". These pipes are CLEEEEEEEEEEEEN!!!!!
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at the end of the tunnel, that is. Harry, this is what you do best. Forget about all those Hollywood industry types. Tell us about you. Believe it or not, Moriarty sent me e-mail telling me to re-examine my priorities because he thought I called Harry a sell-out. Let the world know this, I don't think Harry is a sell-out. I think he's just a little lost, that's all. This opus gives me hope. Come back to us, Harry. You can do it.
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That's my hood! Just remember, up here, stuff is printed in English AND in French. Because we care. (And if you draw Vulcan ears on the PM on our blue 5 dollar, he looks like Leonard Nemoy! wow!)
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Does anyone else have a jones for a Citizen Kane DVD with commentary by Ebert similar to what he did with Dark City (which he also did a frame by frame analysis)? And come on people, if Harry wanted sell out, wouldn't HE have been the badass monster in The Faculty?
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I'm on an e-mail list with Amazon for three different DVDs yet to be put out for sale: Charlie Chaplin's "City Lights", Chaplin's "The Great Dictator" and "Citizen Kane". Excellent idea to have Ebert be one of the commentators on the DVD. Harry...give him a nudge for that one, if you can!
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do I have to say it? SHOT BY SHOT, NOT Frame By Frame. Why do you people repreat Harry's misnomer? There are, in film, 24 FRAMES PER SECOND. To watch a film frame by frame would take...hell, you do the math. Anyway, to second what All Thumbs mentioned, if you can't get a transcendent film experience out of Citizen Kane there is something wrong with you. Probably too jaded. At the risk of sounding too pretentious, if you have any knowledge of film history BEFORE Welles came on the scene, it is pretty hard to miss the impact he had. My response to those who are quick to shoot down C.K. as the best film ever made: Name one better. It may be hard to say WHY Kane is the best, but harder to find a legitimate substitute for #1. And I'm sorry my Canadian friend, but The Hanging Garden ain't Citizen Kane. It didn't exactly REVOULTIONIZE the medium. Without taking up too much space, Kane is saved mostly by its humor. For those that truly enjoy it viewing after viewing will note that it really makes you laugh. Most "great" films heralded by critics are a bit on the dry side. As much as Welles knew he was the shit, he didn't take himself TOO seriously. The higbbrow and lowbrow elements in Kane show that Welles didn't forget to entertain while schooling the asses of the film community. *** By the way, Roger Ebert's show this week featured Martin Scorsese where they picked their Top 10 of the 90's. Scorsese's #2: The Thin Red Line. Scorsese's #4: Eyes Wide Shut. Suck on that.
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But he did address something I specifically wrote. That said, however, he could have written one letter and changed a word here and there. I'd like to think the good Prof. was seeking me out personally lay his wisdom upon me. Egotistical? Sure. Delusional? Absolutely!
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Need more hardcore info, not ambiance. I went to San Francisco before and I know all about leaving my friggin heart there. Give me something I can use. I purchased some items from your vendors and support some good info here (albeit sparsely like the nonexistent amount of real chicken in a Chicken McNugget). More meat, less fat is what should be the working definition here...
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I happen to be very dextrous... bwahaha! [groan at self] Anyway, I was the one who said that Citizen Kane wasn't magnificent as most would claim. Significant, yes. But, even Welles himself liked to criticise the film, calling Rosebud "terribly Freudian" (or words to that effect), and stating that he could have made ten times the film if he had been given the same deal in his later years. I would not argue that CK is anything short of a *technical* revolution in film. What I will argue is that it is not one of the greatest dramatic works of Western culture, or North America, of even in the meduim of film. CK just doesn't resonate, though it certainly tries to. All the elements of a really good tragedy are present, but it isn't uncanny, in the sense that it has at its core something so fundementally human that we must embrace it without knowing quite what it is. If take, say, King Lear, and you deconstruct it, line by line, scene by scene, something very tangible is lost. The medium may be the message, but the message is not the medium. And no, I'm not jaded - my favourite novel is Wuthering Heights. =P In fact, one of the only things that made Kane *entertaining* was the humour. While the Hanging Garden may not have done anything with the medium that hadn't been done before, it did hit upon something essential in human nature. Perhaps, like Gatsby, CK is based in something so fundamentally American that I can't quite assimilate it in the way that I could something English, Hebrew, German or Russian.
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Really, I am. I'm a major clutz. That's one of the reasons I chose this name. (The other being Siskel and Ebert are my heros.) But, Lazarus, I realized after I wrote my message that I, too, said frame by frame. I honestly meant shot by shot, I just got excited.***Pardoner, are you comparing "Kane" to the play, "King Lear" or Olivier's "King Lear"?
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I was drawing the comparison to the play King Lear, and not to any particular performance. However, if I had to pick a definitive one (of the four that I've seen), I'd take the 1998 production at the Stratford Festival, with William Hutt becoming Lear.
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Terry Gilliam's Top 10 Movies
Sight and Sound magazine , January 1994
*Citizen Kane (Welles)
Seven Samurai (Kurosawa)
Seventh Seal (Bergman)
8 1/2 (Fellini)
2001: A Space Odyssey (Kubrick)
Sherlock Jr (Keaton)
Pinocchio (Sharpsteen/Luske)
Les Enfants du Paradis (Carne)
One-Eyed Jacks (Brando)
The Apartment (Wilder)
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Terry Gilliam's Top 10 Movies
Time Out magazine, May 1995
*Citizen Kane (Welles)
8 1/2 (Fellini)
Pinocchio (Sharpsteen/Luske)
The Seventh Seal (Bergman)
Seven Samurai (Kurosawa)
Napoleon (Gance)
Birth of a Nation (Griffiths)
Sherlock Junior (Keaton)
The Exterminating Angel (Bunuel)
Lawrence of Arabia (Lean)
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For all the people old people have saved with their patriotism and hard work, theyve killed twice that many on the highways and streets of America. Get the fucking blue hairs off the road.
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Feb 28, 2000 10:41:50 AM CST
Blah, blah, blah--Lets talk about something interesting . . .
by knight says"ni"
This site has been rather slow on the uptake lately. I'm surprised no one has chimmed in about Julianne Moore being in final negotiations for the role of Clarice Starling--or that Oliver Stone is reportedly in negotiations to helm Superman. C'mon folks, let's get back on track here!
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Excellent news.
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