Cool News
Matthew Vaughn Returns To X-MEN!
Nordling here.
This is cool news, indeed. Deadline is reporting that Matthew Vaughn has signed on the line that is dotted for the sequel to X-MEN: FIRST CLASS, and Bryan Singer will once again produce, with Simon Kinberg on script duties. This would be a continuation of the story began in FIRST CLASS, and I'd imagine Michael Fassbender and James MacAvoy would return to their roles as Magneto and Professor X, respectively.
I loved the first movie, and I hope this is a fresh continuation of that franchise. I wonder if this film will dive into the 1970s like FIRST CLASS did into the 1960s... Magneto with platform shoes, perhaps? Professor X with a pornstache? The mind boggles. I'm very happy that Fox liked the original enough to continue with it and I can't wait to see it.
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Just no Beast/Mystique romance...PLEASE
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First Class was the best X-Men film so far. I liked it better than any of the Singer directed ones.
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Cameo of the year!!
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Awesome!
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Regardless of X Men, I see this as being the death blow to Kick-Ass 2. And yes, Kick Ass was better than First Class.
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and pretend Last Stand never existed? Sorta like what Singer did with Superman Returns... He completely ignored Supes 3&4.
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Part of me wishes it was a straight up reboot. I found the majority of the mutants they used besides Beast, Banshee, and Mystique where for the most part lame and uninteresting.
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Almost gives me confidence that we can expect another great movie. Loved first class much more than I expected, once again shows what you can accomplish when you respect the source material enough and use great actors.
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Jan. 30, 2012, 12:56 p.m. CST
First Class was early 1960s. The sequel should be late 1960s.
by Royston Lodge
As the Cold War heats up and the Baby Boomers enter college in increasing numbers, the tensions between mutant-haters and mutant-lovers become razor-sharp. Do X-Men go to college? Xavier's School is only K-12, right?
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They could do so much right with this - and with the same team on board, methinks they probably will. Just no more flying kids - please!
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January Jones was awful so wooden..her tits even took a day off..
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... and that Charles could still walk. Quite a number of stories that could be derived from both scenarios. Of course, Charles' crippled state COULD be temporary, and Mags *could* still be one of the good guys in XFC2...
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is beyond terrible. absolutely appalling. they should have ended the superman series at three.
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Jan. 30, 2012, 1:06 p.m. CST
I just with Xavier had not gotten to the wheelchair in the first movie.
by Mahaloth
Unnecessary. It should have happened later, which would have also kept it in continuity with the other movies(like the start of X3).
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Vaughn is a sharp director and it's great that he gets to churn out some studio franchise type of stuff. I guess. I just can't get that jazzed about another X-Men movie. I'd be interested to see him take the reins on a Bond film. But, most of all, I'd like to see a sequel to KICK-ASS.
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Wolverine is more than a cameo!
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Agreed he should end up in a chair by movie 3 along with Erik becoming his enemy. Oh well.
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Now that would be something to get excited over.
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Jan. 30, 2012, 1:10 p.m. CST
Can we trust John McTiernan with Captain America 2?
by jasper Stillwell
...apart from a few nice moments ripped from Bond movies, the first film felt like a rush job trying to please too many producers. I'd like to see the whole thing re-booted.
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First Class and Apes were the big sleeper hits of the summer for me. Could FOX be getting...good?
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How on earth January Jones got the gig I don't know... well, I can guess. But anyway, much as I fancy her, the girl can't act. I thought her, shall we call it, awkwardness, as Betty Draper was (good) acting,but then I saw her in X-men, and then again in Unknown... and realised she just can't act! She, like Orlando Bloom, seems to have graduated from the School of Wooden Thespians.. recast!!
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Jan. 30, 2012, 1:13 p.m. CST
Nothing that happened in X3 should be acknowledged in any other X film.
by Margot Tenenbaum
Not the death of Cyclops or Prof. X, the way Jean Grey became Dark Phoenix lite, the way Magneto dumped Mystique when she got demutantized, the casting of Kitty Pryde & Callisto & that fucking Juggernaut guy who acted like he was Jocko from the Energizer battery commercials from the 80s, Rogue's betrayal of everyone...FUCK X-MEN 3 arrrgshhdgaksfjkhkl
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i hope jane goldman comes back too to help write
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Will he be impregnating January Jones again?
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The problem with the prequels is at the back of your mind the disregard they had for the characters in X3 is always there. Where the hell did they think X3 would honestly take them? Should do X4 and say Scott & Prof X got teleported to another dimension ala Captain America or something?
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Fassbender was excellent in First Class but I'm a bit tired of him being a fairweather friend to Xavier. It was played out in the overrated Singer/Ratner films. There is such a wealth of storylines/characters/villians that have been sadly ignored in this series. Just take a break from Magneto. Bring him back in XMen:Third Grade or whatever it's going to be called. Also, REBOOT the character of Wolverine if you deem it necessary to bring him into the fold. (Even though that cameo made it too late.) Wolverine wasn't a hunk in the comics...and make Cyclops more of the team leader than a puss.
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Really likeed the first movie quite a lot.
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I know Shaw was the villain of First Class but there are so many other good X villains out there other than Magneto.
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Jan. 30, 2012, 1:22 p.m. CST
Done properly, Wolverine should be like Russel Hantz from Survivor
by Margot Tenenbaum
But I really like Hugh Jackman a lot and he pretty much owns that role now.
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Even though he was too tall, I used to want "Billy" (Sonny Landham) from Predator to play Wolverine whenever the XMen movie rumors first came about.
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I'm in
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Radiation created the mutants? How does that explain Wolverine and Sabretooth, who were born in the 1800's? Some other minor issues (Where's Beast's accent and why does he look so different from X3? Scott's older brother Alex would now be in his late 60's? The CIA created cerebro without a telepath? MAGNETO KILLS EVERYONE IN THE FUCKING ROOM EXCEPT KEVIN BACON AFTER BACON KILLS HIS MOM?!? WTF?!?) Otherwise, a good movie. I liked the Cuban Missile Crisis plotline. But, I don't understand why White Queen couldn't just use her powers to make the generals do whatever she wanted? Also, who were the made for tv villains? Did they use anyone other than Shaw and White Queen from the Hellfire Club? It's just all this talk about respect to the source material makes me want to call bullshit. But, otherwise, a fine movie.
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Just Wiki'd Sonny Landham and never realized he got his start in porn.
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But First Class was great. :)
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Jan. 30, 2012, 1:31 p.m. CST
I liked it well enough, but I'm not terribly interested in revisiting those characters.
by Chewtoy
Just declare it a reboot already and bring in the characters that people want to see.
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Russell would be a better "Puck" from Alpha Flight.
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Jan. 30, 2012, 1:33 p.m. CST
They should continue the Cold War storyline and use the Space Race!
by Delagoya
Have Eric The Red pose as a russian scientist who helps the U.S.S.R gain a head start in the space race, when in reality he's a sleeper agent for D'Ken's Shi'ar Empire. That could take Charles Xavier's X-Men and Magneto's Brotherhood into space going up against D'Ken and the Imperial Guard! And hey, since continuity is all fucked up already, have Emma Frost (who should be re-casted) become empowered with the Phoenix Force!
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Just because you're playing a femme fatale, doesn't mean you can't have a little fun. It doesn't mean FREEZE UP completely. And her voice needs deepening. She needs theater training or something.
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Jan. 30, 2012, 1:35 p.m. CST
Words cannot describe how happy I am about this. Cool news indeed!
by Tank Williams
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Apocalypse please!
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Not that bullshit Ghost/Zombie version we saw in X3.
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Jan. 30, 2012, 1:38 p.m. CST
After SHAME, how can I take Fassbinder seriously as Magneto?
by Royston Lodge
What has been seen cannot be unseen.
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Really?
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..but good call!
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Jan. 30, 2012, 1:46 p.m. CST
Fassbender and MacAvoy were fucking incredible
by Particularly Hard Vato
I hope they continue this series without regards to the timeline, and just take their 'time' with it, continuing in the 60s... man there is serious potential there.
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You can't just "ignore" X-3 because it wasn't as good as X-1 and X-2. Like it or not, it is still canon. What they need to do is make an X-4 that repairs some of the damage done in X-3. These are comic book movies, so there are many ways characters like Cyclops, Professor X, and Jean Grey could be brought back. Use a character like Mister Sinister, Apocalypse, or an adult Kitty Pryde/Shadowcat, to bring the characters who "died" in X-3 back for X-4. Have a scene where Magneto finds Mystique, and asks her for forgiveness, while helping her get her powers back. If they make an X-5, give Magneto a good death scene, and have the character redeem himself by saving all of humanity - mutants and humans alike.
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Jan. 30, 2012, 1:50 p.m. CST
GREAT NEWS. A totally fun movie with great acting from the leads
by smudgewhat
I look forward to more.
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Fassbender is no Sam Worthington, brother.
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Lame plot, lame villian, lame nefarious plot. And don't even get me started on the continuity.
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Just hear me out here. If White Queen became empowered with The Phoenix Force like I suggested in my previous post, then she'd give us the most badass, God-like performance of The Phoenix we'd ever see. Remember when she played Galadriel in The Lord of the Rings and she was tempted to take the One Ring from Frodo? Yeah, I bet you're agreeing with me now, huh?
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I don't think that is what they were trying to say in the film, per say. Characters like Magneto, Shaw, Wolverine, and Sabertooth were mutants well before the atomic age. The impression I got from Shaw's character in the film was that he believed atomic radiation helped accelerate dormant mutant genes in some people who would not have become mutants otherwise. It advanced the mutant genes in their bodies, that should not have been activated for generations. It is similar to what Magneto tried to do in the first 'X-Men', when he tried to accerate the mutant genes in all humans.
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Jan. 30, 2012, 2:02 p.m. CST
NO, jasper stillwell. He was trusted with Rollerball and he fucked it up
by Talkbacker with no name
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Jan. 30, 2012, 2:04 p.m. CST
For the first one, they purposely picked a team of characters who wouldn't overshadow Xavier and Magneto.
by little_lebowski
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I do not understand all the rave reviews. The writers had a list - a stunningly long list - of things they just had to work into this sequel, logic, characterization and plausability be damned, and you can see them ticking off the things on this endless list as the thing unspools. My favorite scene is when the young mutants get together and name each other - oh, so unforced and natural an occurance. Or perhaps my favorite bit is when two of the most powerful mutants on Earth waltz into FBI headquarters and announce that they are basically the greatest threat to national security imaginable. I could write a book about this film's failures - the Beast that looks like Dee Wallace at the end of The Howling, the scene where Mystique just shows up in Xavier's kitchen, the complete waste of Emma Frost and her clothes turning to digital diamonds - ugh! I can only hope the unwanted (by me) sequel actually tells a goddamned story instead of dedicating itself to establishing yet more backstory.
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Not that I ever expexted it to get made, but I was still hoping.
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January Jones was the WORST thing about the first installment ... She must have banged the shit out of Vaughn to get the role!
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I saw that movie 4 times at the theatre. For my money, it was the best superhero film of 2011.
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The more I watch it, the more I think it is my favorite X-men movie. It had such an amazing style that was all its own. Fassbender and McAvoy not only were amazing together, but gave their roles individually so much depth. Putting Gnarl's Barkley's RUN into the montage where they go out and find mutants was very cool. It also had one of the best scenes in any movie this year... where both of them confront Wolverine in the bar. I not only had a great laugh, but the biggest nerd smile on my face. To me, it was one of the best pictures of the year
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Love January Jones in "Mad Men", but she was terrible in X-men. The one scene where she says something along the lines of "A war is only a war when both sides stand a chance of winning"...was one of the worst deliveries I have heard from actress in a while. I wish Alice Eve wasn't tied down to Star Trek because I think she is perfect for Emma. Even though the last season of "Entourage" blew and they made her character go nowhere, I saw Emma in one scene. It was when she was telling Vince that he is an insecure little boy who cares about her opinion. The intensity in her eyes was great and made me wish she stayed on in X-men. Plus, she would had looked fucking hot in the get up. The more and more I see Jones outside of the "Mad Men" universe, the more I see she can't act and IS Betty Draper.
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Anybody who has read the books knows you simply can't make that movie. It is WAAAYYYY too violent and crazy. It would have to be re-written to death. I'm actually shocked they're gonna do Nemesis (which is equally nuts) Here's hoping Tony Scott makes another masterpiece ala True Romance. Oh yeah...X-Men rocks! Keep 'em coming!
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A decent movie to be sure, but i felt it was kinda boring as a whole.
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Loved First Class. Worried about the sequel since they're handing the script over to the Last Stand writer. Not a good sign.
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Movie had style in spades. Loved the Bond influence. Fassbender and McAvoy were outstanding.
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The movie was OK. Mediocre faire, saved by good performances from Michael Fassbender and James MacAvoy. However, it felt rushed - as if Vaughn & Co. weren't sure if they'd get sequels, so they squeezed three films worth of plot development into one movie. As others have noted, the end scene that conveniently explains Professor Xavier's paralysis and beginning of 'Magneto' felt forced and was inconsistent with the flashback sequence in X3, where the characters are much older, Charles can walk and they're still recruiting students together. A lot of good stories could've been mined from their slowly developing disagreement over the direction to take they school's curriculum. Now it's too late.
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It was amazing what they achieved while being so rushed on the last production. I'd love to see what they can do with some breathing room. Great news!
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Would love the 70's, just to see Ororo in a 'Fro
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''If I didn't like it, then everyone else must be faking it!"
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He won't do Kick-Ass 2, but he'll do X-Men. First Class was okay, but after KA it just felt like Vaughn was reined in. Also, it was dull, by-the-numbers superhero fare once Beast turned furry.
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Jan. 30, 2012, 3:18 p.m. CST
I like Nordling crowbarring a GlenGarry GlenRoss reference in there. Nice.
by AzulTool
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Jan. 30, 2012, 3:19 p.m. CST
I just wish Magneto was still an X-Man... ... and that Charles could still walk.
by Mr. Pricklepants
Yeah, they probably should have saved those two events for this sequel. It looked like they wanted to tidy everything up a bit too much at the end of the movie. Oh wait, Magneto has to turn evil! Oh wait, Charles has to become a cripple!
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Please bring him in as the villain, please. :)
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And yes, this is indeed good news, though not exactly unexpected.
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Yeah, you're right. No matter how much I try to write that one off as 'Bizarro-McTiernan', the truth hurts. My God that stunk.
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Jan. 30, 2012, 3:40 p.m. CST
I actually didn't really like "X-Men: First Class" all that much...
by ChickenStu
Kinda felt a bit overcooked and that they were trying too hard...
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...with 2nd half of movie taking place on 'Asteroid M', and battle between M and X-men resulting in it's destruction.
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Too much water sloshing around.
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Jan. 30, 2012, 4:07 p.m. CST
atheron, did you forget Magneto is still an Xman and Prof. X can walk...
by vetepalapinga
..in the flashback in X3 when they meet Jean? So the correct answer is NO- X3 is not canon.
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.......is kind of a good thing. Now one day we will get a genuine reboot of x-men....as well as a first class movie more true to the comics which features the real original members newly cast for a slew of films. However, in the meantime I'm liking the X films......yes even x-men 3. I consider them an alternate universe spawned from singer's 2000 X-Men.
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You know not every character name or costume will translate to film without making the audience laugh out loud. Could you imagine Wolverine in a yellow spandex outfit? (Even got a shout out in X-Men)
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forgot to say.....i like the x-films minus origins.that was a total POS
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Wolvie's comic costume might work onscreen. It needs to be toughened up like Cap's costume. Make it look practical and war torn........desaturate the colors, particularly the yellow. Watchmen for example pulled off a realistic take on typical comic costumes.
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Jan. 30, 2012, 4:15 p.m. CST
First Class is *easily* the best of the XMen flicks and one of the best superhero movies ever made.
by NeonFrisbee
I don't really care if it fucked with comics canon, it was a GREAT movie.
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First Class was a near great movie. It came very close but really, January Jones has less big screen charisma than Sarah Michelle Gellar, and that takes some doing. Mad Men is her Buffy, the one part she was born to play. The strip club re-imaging of the Hellfire Club, was lame and no where close to either the original or the Ultimate Universe version in menace. FC was better than the very first X-Men, not as good as the first Iron Man, but way better than the second IM, not as good as Thor, way better than Green Lantern. In short a good time waster, let's do better in the sequel.
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Jan. 30, 2012, 4:34 p.m. CST
ONE OF THE BEST AND MOST SATISFYING COMIC MOVIES EVER MADE, THE SEQUEL WILL HAVE A TOUGH ACT TO FOLLOW.
by jim
Of course, if anyone is the guy to do it, it's the guy who did the first one.
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...and I thoroughly enjoyed First Class. Seemed inevitable that there would be a sequel. All that matters is that they don't screw it up.
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I loved First Class, despite the odd, rushed finale. One of my favorite movies from last year, along with Planet of the Apes. And oddly, both were released from Fox, usually the studio that can't shoot straight. Go figure. Hopefully Fox executives stay out of Vaughn's hair on this sequel as well. I'm guessing that one of Bryan Singer's main functions as Producer is to run interference from the studio, sort of an offensive line for Mr. Vaughn, to let him make his movie in peace.
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Not a tough act to follow, a solid base to build on just as X2 benefited from having a solid start courtesy X-Men.
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That is all.
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Now there's something I'd like to see, Mighty Orbots were damn cool, so was Reboot.
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First class is good but flawed..and i blame the writers for that.
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I guess they didn't know there'd be a sequel so they had to make the resolution of the characters run directly into the first X-Men movie. As someone who doesn't read comics and doesn't know the story, I'd like to see more of Eric and Charles as friends and allies.
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I wasn't that thrilled with First Class. It was just... ok. Highly non-comic canon, but for no real reason, and there was a lot of just faulty minor things in a film of a lot of very minor things. Why was Alex Summers, the younger brother of Alex, in the film - of an age to be Scott's father? how can you kill Darwin, who's powers, by definition ALWAYS adapt? I liked the casting and performances for the Professor, Magneto, and Beast, but the rest were just OK. I didn't feel that I wasted my time wacthing it, but it didn't have any intellectual or emotional impact, and was pretty forgettable. I'm not sure I want more. *shrugs*
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Maybe he will still be able to walk around or something.
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and did it 2/3rds through the new movie...it could of made for a much better "shock and Oh,yeah..."scene. Too bad they had to force it it the first. yup...Empire style baby.
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baby
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Unlike fanboys, the casual film-goer, if aware of the X-Men mythology at all knows there's "that guy" in the wheelchair who leads the group. So yes, Xavier is in the wheelchair by the end of the first film.
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Especially given the 60s/70s period... Big purple robots hunting the X-Men... can't believe there have been 5 X-Men movies with no use of Sentinels as of yet (the BS in X3 does not count).
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Bolivar Trask's name comes up on an intelligence file very briefly.
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And also let me write it.
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Unlike the Marvel films, the X films unfortunately were not planned all that well in terms of continuity. Three different Beasts (as well as continuity changes about when he gets blue and furry), three different Kitty Prydes (all different ages even though all three movies take place roughly in the same period), the various flashbacks, not to mention the continuity massacre of Wolverine Origins with their Emma Frost. Frankly, I don't care if the First Class films correspond to the earlier films at all - certain connections (like between Magneto and Mystique) may have some resonance because of their use in the early films, but I really hope they diverge from the original trilogy. And I say bring back Darwin. He can't possibly have died, given his ability. And I am all for Sentinels. If First Class was Connery-era Bond, make the sequel Roger Moore era with asteroids and giant fucking robots (just make sure they look and move completely differently than Transformers). I'd even be ok with the Cylon-like cyborg sentinels (half-human programmed). The Trask story is just good to pass up and not do right, especially given the time period.
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Jan. 30, 2012, 5:33 p.m. CST
Movie was boring, they always bring in the nazis into everything, despite far more exciting and interesting villians, Jewish Hollywood continues to love Nazis
by AllThosePowers
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Am I alone in thinking Kevin Bacon was totally miscast and out of place in this film? I love the guy, but c'mon. Other probs: Hellfire Club could have been so cool as a historical reanactment group like from the original comics. A bunch of superpowered, world control nuts in 17th century garb. The kids were just lame and horrible. What, Banshee has to be a hillbilly instead of Irish? Wha...? And a young Beast would have been better as an arrogant science dork than a target for bullies. Mystique just showing up in Charles parents kitchen was so stupid. He should have seen her being messed with by thugs and helped her out or some shit. And is this the same Mystique would would one day poison Cerebro in an attempt to kill Charles? Sheesh. She should never have been friends with Xavier. Yep. January Jones is aweful. She should play only Dan Drapers retarded wife, or a Stepford wife. White Queen should be seductive and smarmy, not a fucking robot. The Wolverine cameo was self-indulgent shit. Fuck these guys. Just because the two leads were good and some of the effects were good (and many were not) people are callling this a "good" movie? Please. Multiple viewings just make it worse.
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Now bring on Apocalypse!
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Sentinels would push into Transformers territory, and that's not necessarily a good thing. First Class had it's minor flaws, (January Jones looks hot but has the acting prowess of a dishrag) but what I thought worked well was the working in actual historical events as a backdrop to the story. They really treated the source material with respect and created a great origin story for the entire X-mythology. I want them to continue this trend. My recommendation: Set the next one around the MLK shooting in 1968 and continue the theme of Mutantkind vs. Humanity reflecting that event.
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Speaking as part of the 20% of the population that wouldn't take kindly to trivializing the MLK assassination -- uh no. And Darwin is the coolest black guy you could find for the movie? Give me an X-Men version of Omar. Do the Sentinels, but think Cylons not Transformers, until the big reveal at the end of the Big Fucking Robots by the hundreds ready to wipe out mutants. On the other hand, if the "Bond" feel from part one of the trilogy equates to Thunderball, part II should be You Only Live Twice. Hell, Fassbinder already knows he's the next Bond if he wants it.
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Would love to see Vaughn do a take on a Apocalypse/Mr. Sinister story. The Sentinels could be cool also, particularly for the supposed time-setting, but I'm kind of wary of using huge machine-creatures in the wake of Transformers and the upcoming Battleship. I agree that they rushed into the "Magneto = bad guy, Prof. X = crippled" thing, but I'm still excited to see what else Vaughn can bring. I actually think they should've just done a proper reboot and done a legitimate First Class, with Cyclops and Jean and what not, but still thought the movie was pretty great. And also, I get what people are saying about leaving him out of this one to focus on another threat, but Fassbender's take on Magneto was phenomenal and elevated the series to new heights. I could watch 10 more movies with him in the role.
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Speaking as part of the 20% of the population that wouldn't take kindly to trivializing the MLK assassination...< To be fair, it FEELS more like 80% of the population. Right? Am I right folks? Hey, is this thing on...?
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I predict a love triangle between Azazel, Mystique and Magneto. Mystique getting knocked up by Azazel and giving birth to Nightcrawler in a later film would be sweet!!!
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They would only fuck that up and make them human-sized. Do them right. Why not flash-forward the franchise this time and do Days of Future Past?
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That actually ices up and rides on ice skateboard ramps.
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Cyclops, Marvel Girl, Beast, find some 2nd tier replacements for Angel and Iceman (or just ignore the original X-Men movies and reboot the damn thing. Set in the 70s, deals with the creation of Genosha and public mutant paranoia post-events of "First Class". Thank you very much, I'll expect a check.
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The only character they got semi-right outside of the age difference.
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...and make Moria's mutant son the baddy. What was his name? Proteus?
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That was fucking ridiculous!
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Make it a Trilogy with Mags saving the day! Age Of Apocalypse Age Of Apocalypse Age Of Apocalypse Age Of Apocalypse Age Of Apocalypse Age Of Apocalypse Age Of Apocalypse Age Of Apocalypse Age Of Apocalypse Age Of Apocalypse Age Of Apocalypse!!!!!!!!
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Moira was originally Scottish. Agree about the pussification of Cyclops thoug h. In the comics he was a natural leader, could juggle mathmatical angles in his head for impossible eye beam shots (and him once sinking all the balls with one shot at billiards would work great in a film), and was nothing to sneeze at in hand to hand combat. He was so fucking wasted in film. In cartoons too.
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Jan. 30, 2012, 6:37 p.m. CST
That movie was as mediocre as the other three.
by Bedknobs and Boomsticks
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The title "Days of Future Past" means nothing to you, almost everyone on the planet. They haven't read the old X-Men comics so it is unlikely they will give a shit whether it becomes a movie or not. To 90% of the viewing public it would be just another version of The Terminator. I know it sucks not everyone is as obsessive about this stuff as we are, but such is life.
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Yes, in the comics he was a badass. In the movies however the actor playing him was up against female magnet Hugh Jackman. So bye bye Cyclops leader of the X-Men, welcome Wolverine, babe magnet out front. James Marsden has the screen magnetism of Barney Fife. You do realize studios want these movies to make money?
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X-Men:Coach?
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Sentinels!!!!
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Did you not watch Superman Returns? He was the only decent thing in that film other than William's theme and Lex's sweet white coat. Don't blame James for the way the character was written. And if Singer had made his X3-4, it supposedly would've redeemed Scott in the eyes of fans.
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Laura Shuler-Donner wants to do it, they want to use Cable, and I believe Vaughn said he wanted to open the sequel with Magneto assassinating JFK. Sounds like a take on Days to me.
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Jan. 30, 2012, 7:45 p.m. CST
Fantastic news. That was my favourite film of last year.
by Mr Nicholas
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No Beast/Mystique romance, cuz she's gonna do Azazel and give birth to Nightcrawler!
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...no, I am not Jonathan Woss!
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C'mon you can do anything right?
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A mutant who becomes president is assasinated, mutants are drafted for a war effort, mutants start rebelling and joining the counter culture, sentinels are built to shut down the revolution. That would be the best superhero movie of all time.
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>Did you not watch Superman Returns? Unfortunately yes. It sucked, they took the original Superman and did the same plot over again, worse. Nothing new except a bastard son. The most powerful being in the cosmos versus a real estate scam. As for Marsden, yeah George Clooney better watch his back.
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Politics of an era most of the audience will barely remember, may be a good idea. It didn't work so well for Watchmen though. However it plays out, they are not going to touch MLK's assassination with a 39 1/2 foot pole.
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Jan. 30, 2012, 9:02 p.m. CST
I don't really know how you beat a coin through the skull
by smudgewhat
while Xavier is still attached, thus exacting your revenge while simultaneously making your pal a pained accomplice, but I wanna see them try! And yes, bring Jane Goldman back!
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In a totally different way - but still, not sure what anyone sees in FC. It's sloppy - the kid recruit actors are terrible, and the period stuff feels like a high-school dress up. Come back, Singer, all is forgiven.
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Good call dogsoup. Fuck, I'd rather have Stephen Lang for President at this point in place of our choices for 2012.
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Beast's make up in Last Stand was dead on. It looked awesome. Beast in First Class looked like a cat. I'd love to see Colossus in the next movie. I always thought he was a harass character and deserves to be showcases. Add him and Nightcrawler and I'm all in.
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Bryan Singer said only Superman The Movie took place before Superman Returns. I think because Supes had the kid, that Superman 2 was counted as "cannon". But as far as what Singer himself said, only Superman The Movie counted. There was more left to be explained, which maybe would have been if there had been a sequel. I didn't care for Superman Returns, so I don't really care. Anywho, Singer was not a comic book guy. His knowledge of Superman came from his love of Donner's movie (1 only - not 2) and I believe he dug the George Reeves show. Moving on. I like First Class. I thought it was the best of the series. Yes the movie-verse is different than the comics, but Hugh Jackman is just great in the part of Wolverine. His performance is really the only reason to watch 1 - 3 for me. Yes, he is too tall for the comic book version, but his performance is just outstanding. But when it comes to First Class, the movie is just fun. I look forward to the sequel.
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Jan. 30, 2012, 10:35 p.m. CST
You mean "Matthew Vaughn Returns To Eric/Charles Movie!", right?
by TopHat
These movies have NEVER been about the X-Men. They've only been about Eric, Charles, and Logan. Since Logan is else where making money in solo projects, naturally the new "X-Men" movies are mainly about Eric and Charles. This is all calculation on the studio's part: Its a lot cheaper putting your main focus on a guy with telepathy, a guy that controls metal, and a guy who has knives coming out his hands instead of other characters whose powers include much more expensive effect shots like destroying an entire city with a hurricane, decimating an entire block of skyscrapers just by looking at them with your visor open, or turning into a fiery being able to end all life in the galaxy. These are bargain basement adaptations of the X-Men comic books. ...And, they'll keep making them as long as you go see them.
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Yeah, THAT Wolverine.
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Jan. 30, 2012, 10:47 p.m. CST
1st class and it's sequels should be an "alternate timeline" so that we can ignore those films that came before.
by the Green Gargantua
aka a reboot.
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Jan. 30, 2012, 10:49 p.m. CST
and please re-cast Emma Frost, she should be a brit.
by the Green Gargantua
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Jan. 30, 2012, 10:52 p.m. CST
Sentinels fit a cold war setting and also the continuity of FC
by Autodidact
After seeing Magneto lift a sub out of the ocean and lob a whole fleet's worth of ordinance back at the Navy, the military would probably put an anti-mutant sentinel program to the top of secret funding priority. Yes, they should be giant humanoid robots. I don't know if it would fit to have them talk to each other. But making them human sized would indeed be idiotic. As would half-human sentinels. It wouldn't necessarily have to be Transformers territory. I'm thinking of the Claremont/Cockrum stuff where Sentinels would interrupt Cyclops and Jean Grey on a date in New York, smashing through the big Xmas tree.... scenes like that would be awesome and could be differentiated from TF in style and execution.
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I was worried Vaughn would want some time to do a different movie and Fox would be impatient and just move ahead with a different director. A Kick-Ass 2 would be insanely awesome, but so would another X-Men, so I'm not complaining.
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http://youtu.be/grxKUoeyEjQ I mean.. if the X-Men are so powerful, they could at least "move" better than some poor Thai actors, right?
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Jan. 31, 2012, 1:12 a.m. CST
They need to work harder to make it feel like the 60's.
by Bedknobs and Boomsticks
There was no period ambiance.
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actually, Emma Frost is American, but snooty Northeastern American. For some reason, Joss Whedon decided to make her British in Astonishing X-Men, and the cartoons followed suit. But yeah, they need to make her a more interesting character. January Jones might not be that terrible if the character was written better. Emma Frost in XMFC = Mystique in X-Men: a kickass independent female villain with her own motivations and big plans, relegated to hot hench-chick status.
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http://youtu.be/grxKUoeyEjQ These guys would kill Christian Bale's Batman in a real fight.
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Jan. 31, 2012, 1:52 a.m. CST
A shame the ending of First Class killed my interest of a sequel
by chien_sale
They had Magneto with the cape and helmet, they had crippled Xavier. I wanted to see Magneto continue doing globe-trotting with normal cloths, taking people out.
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like I did Singer's first attempt. First Class was okay but suffered from some unremarkable team members that really added nothing to the mix and attempted a sort of faux grounded realism I really didn't care for. I'm hoping for a more iconic cast (Fassbender and ' the Wanted guy' were cool) and some slightly older members. The teenybop members just lacked any interesting backgrounds.
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That's exactly why he's around.
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...passing a kidney stone faces! What huge object will he try to move this time? The MIR space station? The Statue of Liberty?
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Loved X2 but the ending was a blatant ripoff from ST WOK and a lame one at that. Also, putting Cyke as the fourth banana is a big no-no. Summers to X-Men is compared to Captain America to the Avengers. WTF were he and the producers thinking? It's called X-Men not the Wolverine Show. After FC I feel that Vaughn would treat these iconic characters more seriously. The fucker had me at Kick Ass and yet First Class is superior to both Favreau's IM2 and Cowboys vs Aliens. So yeah, he's the new go to guy for directing comic based films.
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..how they completely omitted any mention of the Civil Rights era/struggle. It could have added much more to Xavier and Magneto's motivations but nooooo they producers played it too safe i.e. conventional character development. After all it was the Civil Rights era (MLK and Malcolm X) that inspired the X-Men in the first place. Fact!
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I was cynical like everyone else about First Class but Fox really outdid themselves. Of course, the film was so good because of the amazing performance of Michael Fassbender and the solid script. I'm anticipating the sequel already!
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Terrific news that Vaughn is returning. The FC production values were high, a fair amount of visual flair and, actually, some damn good character moments. The scene with the Charles, Erik and the HUUUUGE dish is a stand-out for me. As for the whole plot hole thing with Charles getting paralysed but then in X3 he's not until later... Could be explained away by him using telepathic control to make others see him as non-disabled. Bit of a hack solution, but I think it works. Yes, January Jones was... just... SIGH... and breathe... Not good. Leaving it there. But the rest of the cast more than made up for that. Can't beat the music score either - proper swinging 60s. Hopefully they can continue to use appropriate period music as they go on.
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FIRST CLASS had more plot holes than you could shake Madrox (the Multiple Man) at. Continuity went out the window (Cyclops has long been established as Xavier's first 'find' but wasn't anywhere in sight). They set out to be in a specific time period and then mostly ignored it with a flow of anachronisms from the fashions (which dated late 60s, not early) to the technology (missiles used at the end dated from the 70s, the Blackbird didn't fly until AFTER the Cuban crisis). It was bad enough that, though I'm not a THOR fan but am an X-MEN fan. I far preferred the THOR film to the FIRST CLASS one.
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But I can't dish any out for it. The first 25 minutes (?) was alright, the rest was lack-luster or just awful. The "flight fight" between Banshee and that butterfly bitch was one of the most embarrassing things I've ever witnessed. Fox can suck it.
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That shit is so over-choreographed. It's just Jackie Chan's bullshit to the next level. Put that chump in the UFC, he'd be dead in minutes. Bale's Batman indeed...
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Jan. 31, 2012, 9:16 a.m. CST
kelvarnson > Singer said Superman Returns was a sequel to Superman 2
by Jake Pantlin
That was there the idea of the "super kid" came from, cause Lois and Clark had sex in Superman 2. Singer also talked about possibly bring Zod back, so he definitely considered Part 2 to be canon. What Singer said in interviews was that he only considered the Donner films canon, and wrote off 3 and 4.
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Jan. 31, 2012, 9:25 a.m. CST
X-MEN: FIRST CLASS was the best comic book movie last year.
by magazoid
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It wasn't. Not by a long shot.
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He likes underaged blue women. Go see the movie Shame if you have your doubts
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I'll take your word for it. I never saw that interview. All I read was him saying Superman 1 was cannon, because technically 2 was not Donner (even though he filmed a lot of it - they went back and re-shot a lot of it because Donner refused a co-directing credit with Lester). At any rate Returns was a dud.
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Behind RotPotA.
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Is still by far the best superhero movie I think I have ever seen, and I've seen everything else that's been made to date. Its pretty much perfect. Xmen First Class was excellent. I'm very happy there will be more films in the franchise! Of course the lovely Jennifer Lawrence will be busy making 2 more Hunger Games movies as well.
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I can see it now: in the sequel, he just parachutes into a scene halfway through the movie: "hey, guys, I'm not dead after all!"
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