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From Wolfpunching To Paul Kersey?
Nordling here.
With THE GREY opening this weekend, it looks like Joe Carnahan isn't resting on the laurels of that movie, and judging from the many reactions online, people are generally happy with what they got. But people's ideas may change, considering the negative opinions of remakes going on right now and considering what the L.A. Times put on their site today.
According to the Los Angeles Times, Joe Carnahan's next film could very well be a remake of the Charles Bronson classic DEATH WISH, if Paramount and MGM have their way. It's even possible that the new DEATH WISH would be a start of a new franchise.
I was really hoping that Carnahan would use any clout from THE GREY to bring KILLING PABLO back into development, and obviously this is from an unnamed source so it's definitely not a certainty yet, but if true it wouldn't be much of a stretch to imagine Liam Neeson playing the iconic Paul Kersey. That may be too easy, though. I'd love for Carnahan to cast someone like George Clooney and just go all the way with it. Who would you cast?
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Jan. 28, 2012, 10:54 p.m. CST
Another 18 months and Nesson says he's done with action movies, enjoy whie you can
by FreeBeer
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Jan. 28, 2012, 10:56 p.m. CST
Source for that info is he'sinterview on Graham Norton Show by the way
by FreeBeer
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..I know it's based on the sequel novel, but still
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Jan. 28, 2012, 11:04 p.m. CST
And, although I love old school movie posters, that one is pretty shitty, what an odd choice
by FreeBeer
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Jan. 28, 2012, 11:05 p.m. CST
Looks likes he was suprised by his own fart and spun around to shoot it
by FreeBeer
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That's like saying who would replace Clint Eastwood in a Dirty Harry remake
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Jan. 28, 2012, 11:11 p.m. CST
William Dafoe as The Joker in Dark Knight Returns! You heard this blatant lie here first!...
by FreeBeer
...Seriously, where is everybody
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OPINION!
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Jan. 28, 2012, 11:34 p.m. CST
Skip the shitty remake and let him make Medellin
by Mel_Gibsons_Nazi_Dad
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Jan. 28, 2012, 11:44 p.m. CST
I hate the very idea of remaking this Bronson classic, but if they have to, then I'd cast John Cusack...
by Stegman84
You need someone who looks normal, even meek, before 'being pushed too far and taking the law into his own hands'. That means you don't want someone who looks like a tough guy or someone who you could easily visualise could potentially kick someone's ass. You need someone who can look like a victim, and who is in fact a victim to begin with, and who can then use that part of themselves as the bait as they go on the warpath. Jeff Goldblum would be another good choice, plus he was in the original as one of the gang, so full circle... My view anyway.
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That sounds like a band that would sound like straight-edge hardcore crossed with black metal. haha.
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Jan. 29, 2012, 12:04 a.m. CST
The Grey was a massive letdown. Not because it was more drama than a genre film...
by JuanSanchez
It's because they put something in the ads, something awesome, that isn't in the movie. Said thing is what convinced me to shell out to see the movie in theaters.
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He would be awesome in it but you know what? The thought of Clooney in this role made me laugh at first but the more I thought about it...makes perfect sense. He would kick ass not to mention that Carnahan gets a bad rap. He has made some really good flicks in my opinion.Narc was great and Ateam wasn't horrible for what it was. He's a talented guy
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Let this end up in development hell! Please!
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DO IT!
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should have been the title of the blandly named The Grey.
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The original Paul Kersey, when Sidney Lumet was going to direct Death Wish , was going to be Jack Lemmon. Keeping this in mind, wouldnt Tom Hanks be amazing. Will never happen, Hanks is no more likely to embrace an edgy role than Harrison Ford is.
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Jan. 29, 2012, 1:56 a.m. CST
= Joe Carnahan isn't resting on the laurels of that movie =
by Wookie_Weed
No, because he has cock deep down Nordling's throat. Seriously, Nordling's cocksucking of Carnahan is as about as the Abrams love fest going on in recent years.
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The shots showing Neeson actually fighting the alpha male. He straps on the bottles, they rush each other, then we see quick glimpses of them fighting. I don't know if they faked it by cutting in stuff from other parts of the movie or if they shot it but decided to cut it from the actual film or shot it just for the trailer or what. But the ads sold me on that scene. It put me over the top from interested to buying a ticket.
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For what I'm talking about, start watching at 1:53 - http://www.break.com/movie-trailers/the-grey-redband-trailer-2291268
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Jan. 29, 2012, 3:22 a.m. CST
New York is too gentrified and sterlie for a Death Wish remake.
by yamayama
When the original Death Wish came out New York was a grimy city full of ugliness. Now its all yuppie flats and tax collectors pretending to be NYPD. Death Wish would need to be in another city on the downturn. Detroit? Or somewhere affected by the recession with lots of tent cities? Or New Orleans or Louisana? Also agree that Neeson is too domineering to play Kersey. Remember Kersey was an architect who never touched a gun. You need an actor who comes across has slight and insignificant, who is destroyed slowly possessed by anger , hatred and absolute wrath. Michael Douglas nailed it in Falling Down. So we need an actor in his early 50's who looks lived in.
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Bryan Cranston has the depth and pathos to play Kersey.
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Jan. 29, 2012, 3:29 a.m. CST
Also Detroit would be the perfect city for Death wish remake..
by yamayama
Cause Detroit has so many beautiful buildings abandoned and laid waste that it would reflect Kerseys job of an architect who designs buildings and cities that people can inhabit. The crumbling city in itself would be Kersey's Nemesis.
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First, although the wolfpunching in the ad IS misleading, if all you took away from that movie is disappointment at the lack of wolfpunch, you don't really appreciate good film writing. The Grey is fucking fantastic. I was tense through the whole thing and every death was heartbreaking. Brilliantly written. It makes you care about guys you ordinarily couldn't give two shits about. Second, Bryan Cranston might've made a good Kersey before Breaking Bad, but casting him at this point would be lazy. Walter White is just a different version of Kersey. How about Kelsey Grammer? His politics somewhat match the 2nd Amendment friendly Death Wish films and he's got the look of a pushover who could be turned into a vigilante.
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Jan. 29, 2012, 4:30 a.m. CST
They are remaking Death Wish but not Dirty Harry with Hugh Jackman as Callahan?
by KilliK
idiots.
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Overall it's a solid film. Neeson is fantastic and the supporting cast is pretty good. The story isn't anything special and I didn't care for the tired asshole character giving the leader a hard time trope, but it's alright. I'm just having a tough time getting over being scammed. And it was more than a punch - if you at the trailer you can see it was an entire fight.
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Jan. 29, 2012, 5:04 a.m. CST
Killik - no, they're doing a Dirty Harry prequel with Ryan Gosling - Slightly Soiled Harry
by JuanSanchez
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Jan. 29, 2012, 5:18 a.m. CST
Our parents took us to see those in the theater.
by Bedknobs and Boomsticks
Funny how some parents in the 70's and 80's didn't give a shit if movies were too adult for their kids. It was both frightening and thrilling as a kid.
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You know it to be true. People will expect a tough guy, but someone unassuming, normal, the type that would blend in.... much more effective. If less sympathetic for all the wrong reasons. Cranston may have the chops, but it almost seems too obvious. I could be wrong.
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......A movie about a vigilante wandering the streets don't seem too exciting when we are used to robots and dudes in tights ripping up half a city in a fight. If they make this, or re-make it whatever, they should concentrate more on the damage caused to make someone do this, like taxi driver, but realistically if it's made by the man that made The Grey it'll star Liam Neeson taking out bad guys with his 'particular set of skills'.....
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Fucking PERFECT.
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if death wish had never happened then there would have been no terminator....
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There would not have been a Terminator without Westworld, and there certainly would have been a Westworld without Death Wish.
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It's NOT a remake of the original, it's going to be more true to the books vision....#that's whattheyallsay.
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Bronson was fine but had such a cinematic baggage that when he turned into a killer it had no impact - in fact it was harder to believe that he was an architect. I loved the rumour / truth? that Jack Lemmon was the original choice to play Paul Kersey.
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I thought Carnahan was going to bring that bad-ass character to the screen
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i think Sly was circling a DW remake a while ago?
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Jan. 29, 2012, 9:51 a.m. CST
Kersey needs to be played by a slight and intelligent man. Not muscle.
by yamayama
The Stallone comments got me confused. Could you see Stallone as Kersey the architect?! I dont. I love Stallone, but hes too much of an action icon to play Kersey. Death Wish is about the gradual process of pure anger, frustration, and eventual revenge consuming an ordinary man trying to do the right thing, in a system that has failed him. Thats why Bryan Cranston came to mind. The Giamatti suggestion is also interesting. Or better still; PHILLIP SEYMOUR HOFFMAN.
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...would be a terrible choice. Now someone like Paul Giamatti would be inspired casting.
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Jan. 29, 2012, 10:04 a.m. CST
Mel Gibson would be a very obvious choice few years ago but now isnt so obvious...so would be cool casting
by CARTMANEZ
Gibsons about the same age Bronsan was when he did DW 1 Brosnan is few years older but itd still work ok. be cool if Brosnan or Gibson got the role and DW remake was a big Taken like hit and they do sequels every other year like the Bronson DWs. i agree with Nordling - Neeson is too obvious a choice. maybe if he hadnt done Taken then yeah but now itd just seem like another Taken
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Jan. 29, 2012, 10:05 a.m. CST
also Caine's "Harry Brown" was a remake of DW in all but name.
by yamayama
Whoever makes a new Death Wish franchise should look at Michael Caine's "Harry Brown". Now that is a movie that improved on the concept behind Death Wish and made it superior, due to the "fish out of water" concept. Its the idea of placing an ordinary intelligent man in such a state grief that he is willing to step into a hellish warzone of druggies and gangs to exact his revenge. I could see Phillip Seymour Hoffman pulling that off with gravitas.
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Agree with you Killik. Been thinking the same for a while now. Idiots indeed. Nevetheless, Carnahan has what it takes to make this work tough.
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Jan. 29, 2012, 10:05 a.m. CST
Adam Sandler. If you're going to fuck up a classic with a bad remake, go all the way.
by theDORK
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that is all
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They should cast the guy next door type, not, lets say The Rock, or some tough guy we would expect. Liam Neeson is becoming typecast material when it comes to gritty action movies...
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they could CG the 1974 Goldblum to mug the 2012 Goldblum and then the film could be about Goldblum trying to figure out how young Goldblum mugged old goldblum (timetravel? cloning?) which hed find out at the end
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good cos your gonna meet him
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wow imdb
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Jan. 29, 2012, 10:20 a.m. CST
always dug the DW3 poster of Bronsan with the .44 Automag
by CARTMANEZ
the 44 Automag blew my mind. Dirty Harrys 44 Magnum but as an automatic!!
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damn theres too many guys who would be good as kersey even H Ford would be awesome
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...don't know if that was before Death Wish 3. This news doesn't surprise me. Was looking at a list someone did on IMDB about all the sequels and remakes in development. The one that really got me was An American Werewolf in London. I hadn't heard that before so I looked it up and Landis himself wants to do it, but I guess the Weinsteins have the remake rights so who knows. Just know it'll suck.
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Kurt Russell has the chops to make both the mild everyman and the subsequent badass role believeable.
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You KNOW you want it. But, seriously....Tom Hanks would be perfect, if he had the balls to really go with the role. Besides, Bobcat's new movie's gonna own this.
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bcuz james marsden was busy and also- taxes!.
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you guessed it. WOLFPUNCHER
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/29/idUS115996160220120129
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Just think about that for a moment...
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Jan. 29, 2012, 12:53 p.m. CST
That's a good thing, Choppahpotamus...the idea is still fresh and unexploited.
by FlickaPoo
I'd hate for WOLFPUNCHER: MY, WHAT BIG FISTS YOU HAVE to come off like a cheap THE GREY knockoff.
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Jan. 29, 2012, 12:57 p.m. CST
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! I HAVE HAD IT WITH THESE MOTHERFUCKING WOLVES...
by FlickaPoo
ON THIS MOTHERFUCKING PLANE!
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I don't know what it's about, but I'd watch it.
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So it's not exactly the same thing. Brian Garfield, the author of Death Wish, wasn't happy with Bronson being cast, since the whole idea was to turn a mild-mannered guy into a killer. As Garfield put it, "As soon as Bronson shows up, you expect him to start killing people." However, even though there's an argument for a more faithful adaptation, there's still three main problems with it: 1. It's already been done with Kevin Bacon in Death Sentence. 2. You know the studio isn't planning to make the book- they're trying to repeat the successful movie formula. (After all, they're keeping the "Paul Kersey" name, instead of the "Paul Benjamin" of the book.) 3. Paul Kersey has become an iconic character that Bronson still owns. The studio would probably be better off trying to adapt Garfield's sequel to Death Wish. It's plot revolved around Benjamin/Kersey having to live with the consequences of turning vigilante- such as a copycat vigilante that goes around killing innocent civilians. (Ironically, the book was titled "Death Sentence".)
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Jan. 29, 2012, 1:29 p.m. CST
AICN should lose all credibility for praising 'The Grey'
by SpaghettiWall
What a fucking trick they pulled on the audience. There is nothing in this film but a bunch of guys getting killed by wolves. I don't give a shit what Nordling says either, you don't really care for the characters aside from Neeson...and that's mainly because you know he's the one who's going to get the job done. And then nothing happens. Joe Carnahan's career should be good as dead.
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...a Death Wish remake would need a setting change. If you tried to re-tell that story in modern day New York City, you'd get chuckles from your movie audience. New York of 2012 bears little resemblance to the gritty crime ridden city of the 1970's. Today's NY has a patrolman stationed on virtually every street corner, and the vibe is more 'sanitized family funhouse' than 'big scary city with bad guys'. A more appropriate setting would be, as others have pointed out, Detroit. Maybe even Atlanta or Pittsburgh.
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would also be interesting choices for Paul Kersey
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I have no emotional attachment to the original Death Wish movies, so I guess I don't really care about this one way or the other. Just don't make it suck.
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PAUL walks toward the trio of PUNKS who are huddling around a burning trash can, trying to keep warm. PAUL.... DRAWS HIS GUN. PUNK #1.... SEES THIS....AND REACHES FOR HIS OWN THEY TAKE AIM AT EACH OTHER "Fuck you, I'm just ending the movie here." - Joe Carnahan
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Jan. 29, 2012, 2:16 p.m. CST
what about making a sequel - Death Wish 6: Back to Tha Hood
by CARTMANEZ
have it be kerseys grandson wake up transported back to 1974 and witnesses the events of DW 1 as an onlooker like Marty McFly in BTTF 2 and all the while helps Kersey Snr by taking out timetravelling muggers who like him have come from the future and whose dads were killed by Kersey
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Timothy Olyphant is Harry Callahan. Gotta be.
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I think Josh Brolin would be a fantastic choice.
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Jan. 29, 2012, 2:50 p.m. CST
I vote for Ben Affleck for pure stunt-casting weirdness.
by Royston Lodge
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Jan. 29, 2012, 2:57 p.m. CST
Starring Mark Wahlberg as Kersey, an aged frat dick with a power walk. Kanye West will write the song. Actually, he'll rip (sorry, SAMPLE) the melody from "Hey Hey, My My," rhyme cat with hat and poof, Billboard #1.
by Pvt. Duke
With Kevin Connolly as Higgins. Fist buuuuump.
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This movie has been remade too many times under too many different titles. It's a great set of films and yeah, it's a damn cool name for a movie. But I feel this is one of the flicks you just let rest. Nobody is honestly going to squeeze anything else out of this franchise. Everybody will hate it or think it's mediocre, and it'll get a couple good reviews at best, then cut to it being released on dvd 2 months later. Waste of time all around. Let it go Hollywood.
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CHOPPED. HAHAHAHAHAHA
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They tried this a while back with the Straw Dogs remake and that blatantly didn't work. The idea of Kersey is a guy with the propensity for violence, who doesn't even know it till he is doing it. Neeson is too obvious, even Cusak would come across like he did in Con Air (living out a fantasy). One idea that comes to mind is actually use a British actor in the role, someone who brings his family to the "safe" New York only for this to happen. Someone like John Simm or David Tennant, or Tom Hardy...all can turn on menace when they need to and it would be interesting to see the buying of the first gun etc... Making it a guy from a country that doesn't have guns could make it a lot more powerful. As for Dirty Harry, I'm all for Jackman, but they have to keep the 70's setting...
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Jan. 29, 2012, 4:03 p.m. CST
yeah a Straw Dogs style remake - cast Justin Bieber as Kersey, Selena Gomez as his wife, with Anton Yelchin as the police chief
by CARTMANEZ
(as hed be the oldest member of the cast) id actually see that
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cast Jackman as Harry and set it inbetween The Enforcer and Sudden Impact? (at least itd be more interesting than a bog standard remake set present day) alternitivly wait a few more years and have 1974 CG Clint but what will more than likely happen is they'll just do a straight remake sorry re-imagining set present day its a shame Clint do do a sixth one in the mid 90s and direct it too. hed have been about the same age as Ford in Crystal Skull.
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just what the world needs. more revenge-porn.
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The first is balls to the wall non stop action and I loved it. Please make another.
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Sort of a Falling Down reprise.
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don't remake this, please ... 70s... different time, different era... it will never have the same impact as the original. Nobody is interested in a vigilante. The concept is OLD. And nobody can replace Bronson. I'd rather see a sequel... maybe make it about Kerseys stepdaughter from DW 5. Kersey is dead and she's still living in NYC(a graveyard scene would be nice, paying a little tribute to Bronson). She and her boyfriend get beaten up and the boyfriend dies, she takes revenge. She could be a smart person with her own radio show. And Jodi Foster should play her. oh wait...
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Jan. 29, 2012, 5:53 p.m. CST
chud did a brilliant franchise review of death wish last year..
by paul burnett
..check it out. Psycho is on the table at the mo, crackin writing.
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Jan. 29, 2012, 6:04 p.m. CST
I for one vote Kenneth from 30 Rock for the part, if you want a complete turn around for the character. jack mcbrayer
by LarryTheCableGuy
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the UK looks like NYC of the 70s... watch it.
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Jan. 29, 2012, 6:57 p.m. CST
Yes, Harry Brown is badass, as is The Brave One. Who would have thought that
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
Death Wish could be remade, and be good. Not just once, but twice.
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returns as a rapist.
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You need an avowed screen wimp to pull it off, not an action star. Remake this with Paul Giamatti!
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It could work.
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You can never have enough revenge pulp if you ask me.
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Jan. 30, 2012, 12:55 a.m. CST
Well they could go the route of basing it on the book which the Bronsan movie was loosely based on.
by MRJONZ72
That way you get something new....well to a degree lol.
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definitely should not get the role. If they decide to go younger, maybe Edward Norton, or Timothy Olyphant. If they go older, Ian McShane would be awesome, or if they want somebody a bit younger, perhaps James Gandolfini.
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At one point Clooney was attached and it looked as though it was about to go into production. Now? Nothing. Shame.
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Beat that..
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Jan. 30, 2012, 8:14 a.m. CST
Hope the casting director on death wish 2 is still alive to work on this.
by UltraTron
Hope they cast nothing but flawless tits chosen for their various characteristics appropriate to each scene. Whether it's lolling Frazzetta blond about to be raped tits or perky pink nipped slightly freckled kurzey daughter about to be raped before she escapes and kills herself tits- tits need to be scene specific. You can't just throw some fake plastic boobs in there and expect sympathy from the audience.
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You could see him go from a soft spoken liberal to a full on vigilante.
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I mean, have you guys SEEN the original Death Wish? Good premise, but the acting and script and (especially) soundtrack make it one of the lamest good movies of all time, and one that definitely wouldn't be "harmed" by a reinvention. Especially if Liam's involved, which he totally should be.
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wolfpunching wolfpunching wolfpunching. aicn coined the term wolfpunching.
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