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Steven Spielberg Will Part The Red Sea With A Moses Movie!
Nordling here.
So... LINCOLN, then ROBOPOCALYPSE, and then... Moses? Yes, according to Deadline - Steven Spielberg is close to directing a film based on the life of Moses called GODS AND KINGS, which is being described as a BRAVEHEART-like telling of the Exodus story. The idea of Spielberg doing this almost feels inevitable, doesn't it? Don't get me wrong, I'll see anything the Beard makes for the rest of his life, but it's not like this is a story we haven't seen before. But as Spielberg gets up there in age, it's possible he wants to go out with an epic film like this.
Apparently, according to the article, this will not be in 3D. Warner Brothers wants Spielberg to direct this film with a sense of reality, a la SAVING PRIVATE RYAN. Does this mean that we'll get a thousand extras instead of CGI? Will this be Spielberg's real David Lean movie? (And yes, I'm aware that Cecil DeMille directed the original TEN COMMANDMENTS.) It's a long way from when the Neary family was watching TEN COMMANDMENTS on television in CLOSE ENCOUNTERS to actually making a film based on Moses' life.
So... casting, anyone? Who plays Moses? Who plays Pharaoh? Will this be the gritty epic that Warner Brothers wants? Although I'm not much for Biblical stories, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't excited to see Spielberg tackle this one. Genuinely fascinated about this movie.
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...and then the rest of the commandments.
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...things are going to get pretty Old Testament up in here.
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Didn't Spielberg produce The Prince of Egypt?
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as Moses.
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You know, no dumb special effects, just as truthful as humanly possible in a retelling that doesn't reek of pandering.
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He made four masterpieces- and I´m most certainly not counting Schindler, Jurassic, or anything else he´s made since E.T.- but ever since he´s nothing but a really competent craftsman.
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Jan 25, 2012 10:14:41 PM CST
If it's about Moses it'll be a little tough to make this movie with any sense of reality
by im_a_good_man
Since he's most likely fictional and all.
The trailer will be magnificent, though.
BRAAAAMPPP....
BRAAAAMPPP....
LET.
MY.
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GOOOOO!!!!!!!!
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Saw that here a long time ago. Paul Giamatti should make a good Moses. Clooney could be Ramses II
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The second coming of Moses has come and gone.
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Until Charlton Heston started being a spokesperson for the gun lobbyists.
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Jan 25, 2012 10:17:16 PM CST
ummm...everyone has forgotten he's already done this - Prince of Egypt
by cozy
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Didn't he do this as a cartoon about 15 years ago? "Prince of Egypt" or s
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Oh. The Bible.
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Jan 25, 2012 10:18:47 PM CST
Lets hope Harry! Lets also hope Spielbergo doesnt hook up with Drew Goddard on this one.
by lowdevil
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TO HELL I HOPE!
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ala 'The Abyss'.
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Because the story of Moses is so OBVIOUSLY truthful and all...you wouldn't want skimp on the good bits:
"Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves." - Moses (Numbers 31:16-18)
Slavery, mass murder & rape - what a swell guy!
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We will get to see the Ark BEFORE it was raided and lost!
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Jan 25, 2012 10:24:14 PM CST
Day-Lewis is 15 years too old for the role, but I can't see anybody BUT him to play Moses.
by codename
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I...
break...
your...
Commandments!!!
I BREAK THEM UP!!!
••••• SMASH •••••
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Jan 25, 2012 10:31:21 PM CST
A BRAVEHEART/SAVING PRIVATE RYAN-styled story of Exodus. Hmmm...
by mr. nice gaius
Sounds like a pathetic excuse for biblical carnage to me.
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Jan 25, 2012 10:36:45 PM CST
I love it when AICN talkbackers attack biblical interpretation
by covjack
We're talking about ancient texts written in a time of violent upheaval and cultures that were pretty darn barbaric. And you pull a verse or two out and post it as if it proves the bible is bullshit. I can't wait until talkbackers of the future try to interpret the internet of today.
And just to join the fray...blah, blah invisible friend...blah, blah flying spaghetti monster...blah, blah Charlton Heston...blah, blah if it's rated PG13 it will suck...blah, blah... -
So let it be written. So let it be done.
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as Moses.
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If we can't get them out, we'll breed them out.
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Jan 25, 2012 10:45:32 PM CST
Oh, it's good Egyptian weather, madam. The frogs is falling straight down...
by flickapoo
well, slightly to the side like.
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Jan 25, 2012 10:46:01 PM CST
Michael Fassbender as MOSES! you know because Egyptians and Hebrews were white.
by gk1
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Id love to see an old testament, biblical movie done with modern filmmaking techniques and visual capabilities.
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Jus' sayin'
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resources, and everything in between. It's going to make monster bucks though. All of these types of films do. Especially with SS attached. But making money is what it is all about right?
When is someone going to make a movie about Nikola Tesla? Someone that actually walked on the planet and made a difference.
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'When he was forty years old, it came into his heart to visit his relatives, the Israelites. When he saw one of them being wronged, he defended the oppressed man and avenged him by striking down the Egyptian.
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Jan 25, 2012 11:07:25 PM CST
Prediction: Spielberg decides to produce this instead --
by moosemalloy
-- hiring T. Malick to direct a three hour plus abstract epic starring Tracy Morgan as the young Moses and Will Ferrell as the older. No comedy involved.
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Duh.
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Not sure why talkback erased most of my text, but I'll try to write it again.. it says in Acts 7:23-24 -- "23 'When he was forty years old, it came into his heart to visit his relatives, the Israelites.24When he saw one of them being wronged, he defended the oppressed man and avenged him by striking down the Egyptian." Day-Lewis is 55, but who's counting? I think his Moses would be phenomenal.
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He produced The Prince of Eygpt.
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Jan 25, 2012 11:14:23 PM CST
I agree with Harry on Mr. Lewis. However, this should be made after Indy 5!
by stereotypical evil archer
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Nestor Carbonell as Pharaoh, make it so.
I just think Moses needs a little edge to him....
Get someone artistic and epic to shoot it like Terrence Malick under the direction of THE BERG... I'm dreaming of course but if they do this right, this movie could be crazy good! -
Oh well. Then again Jews killing themselves might be a better fit for Mel Gibson.
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Jan 25, 2012 11:22:15 PM CST
A) if the Ark is in there USE THE GODDAMN RAIDERS ARK B) Show how he got the ghosts in there.
by tallboy6t6
"Power of God, or something..." Seriously, Spielberg, use the Raiders model exactly. I'm sure Lucas will lend it to ya for a shot or two.
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... AND Pharaoh.
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and Debbie Reynolds as Pharaoh
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Jan 25, 2012 11:28:45 PM CST
I'm waiting for someone to say this is his apology for 'Munich'
by kamaji
He ruffled some feathers with that one.
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Jan 25, 2012 11:28:52 PM CST
if this gets made, please don't have any northern european white people as hebrews and egyptians
by maxcherry
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Movies are always being announced. Especially ones that are at least a few years away from being made like this one. I'll believe it when i see it. Remember when it was a possibility that he was remaking Oldboy with Will Smith? Ya, a lot of fools blew a gasket for no reason whatsoever. No reason to get worked up when you don;t have to.
On a slightly different note. Is anyone else sick people (At least those online) calling him the beard? Or worse, when people refer to him as uncle stevie or some dumb pet name?
You guys realize it comes of as more spite than cute, right? It's always interesting to me to see what sentence it's used in too. -
sick of people
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It'll guarantee that movie at least one Oscar nomination. Having said that, Spielberg needs to start making important films again, "Lincoln" is a start, and this idea really intrigues me for some reason. I'll post more about it in 5 years.
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The best fantasy and magic saga is The Lord of the Rings, by far, at least it knows it is fantasy. Also, no more marines as heroes or any of that war propaganda. I've spoken.
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FACT, my brother, FACT.
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Jan 25, 2012 11:36:53 PM CST
Props to all the talkbackers, some really funny shit tonight!!!
by notcher
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Get himin his mocap monkey suit, and he could be Moses, Pharaoh, and pretty much any other character!
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Jan 25, 2012 11:43:09 PM CST
I'll happily fork out 10 bucks to see Daniel Day Lewis part the Red Sea in 3-D.
by notcher
THIS IS A NIGHT FOR EGYPTIIIIIIAAAAANS!!! BRING IT!!!!!
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*The trouble with Ebypt is that it's full of Egyptians...*
The Egyptians finally found Ebypt!
There goes the neighborhood!!!
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Jan 25, 2012 11:51:54 PM CST
Make Close Encounters 2, where thier jerk father comes back and owes child support.
by drpain
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Are you guys crazy?!??!?! I'm an atheist, but I want a Huge production for this. It's fucking Spielgberg and the story of Moses!!!! This needs to be a monster of a film. Can you imagine the plagues and the parting of the sea? Can't wait for this.
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Not much of the warm n' fuzzies back in the Old testament, Steve...
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Jan 26, 2012 12:15:47 AM CST
First you have to believe that Moses, like some Babylonian press magnate, was able to transcribe 300,000 letters of ANYTHING to scrolls.
by justmyluck
The myth is always more powerful than the lie.
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Jan 26, 2012 12:16:01 AM CST
This would be Spielberg's *10 Commandments Cecil B. DeMille* phase, like WAR HORSE'S *big sky John Ford* phase, like EMPIRE OF THE SUN's *cast of thousands David Lean* phase, etc.
by justmyluck
Prestige, epic, borrow, homage, borrow, homage, etc.
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or produce it maybe?
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He's in all three of the Abrahamic traditions...slightly different, but a prophet to each.
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Jan 26, 2012 12:32:53 AM CST
The critics cannot wait to shit on a biblical John Williams score
by darthpigman
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Is probably double-talk for "stripped of genuine spiritual compulsion." We'll likely see explicable portrayals of the supernatural elements, and maybe "God" will portrayed as a possible figment of Moses' imagination -- a noble delusion, perhaps.
It's a shame, because there's a reason these myths -- true, fictional, or somewhere in-between -- have remained powerful for thousands of years. There's a spiritual yearning in humankind that *wants* these tales to be true. Perhaps not literal or historical, but *true* nevertheless. The messages they contain cannot be served with "a sense of reality," because they are fundamentally intended to transcend that.
I hope I'm wrong. "The Prince of Egypt" was a Dreamworks flick, wasn't it? That played the tale pretty straight, but, of course, it was an animated kids' flick. -
It seems too obvious. I'd like to see an interesting non-consensus pick here.
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Jan 26, 2012 12:52:50 AM CST
a moses/braveheart almalgamation??? sounds fucking horrible!!!!!!!
by sam jacksons wig
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Jan 26, 2012 12:53:27 AM CST
erm... amalgamation. The extra "L" was for sounds fucking horribl"L"e.....!!!!!
by sam jacksons wig
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How about that History of the World Part II Mel?
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Jan 26, 2012 1:01:06 AM CST
Aside from God speaking to Moses through the burning bush,
by sweeneydave
I'd like to see a realistic take on the exodus from Egypt. If God created the laws of nature, there isn't any reason for Him to constantly be working through supernatural means. I'm sure many of the plagues could be explained scientifically without removing God as the driving force behind them. I would be interested in seeing that movie.
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Jan 26, 2012 1:07:04 AM CST
I'm sure many of the plagues could be explained scientifically without removing God as the driving force behind them. I would be interested in seeing that movie.
by captain mal
I'm trying to think of a more boring deconstruction of the myth... ummm... I'll get back to you.
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There's no way he can top the DeMille version. He should do something that hasn't been seen on film before, like the Epic of Gilgamesh.
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I'm sorry I get people in the middle of country believe there is not enough religious bull shit in the media but these stories are boring and rather pointless now. I'd much rather him stick with science fiction. We've seen Moses before it's been done. Move on.... Someone said they shouldn't try and shake it up... Um the idea that God was a figment of Moses's imagination sounds AWESOME! I'd actually like to see a movie take a chance and do something different. I get a straight up version would make big bucks but come on switch it up! Do something new or at least interesting.
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Seriously tho, is Speilberg just totally out of original ideas, on his own? What was the last movie he came up with, by himself?
Shit, if he's doing a film about Lincoln and now, Moses...George Lucas should let him direct Episode 7.
Gandalf is like Moses, so get McKellan or Christopher Lee. Sean Connery! -
Jan 26, 2012 1:14:34 AM CST
Like a month ago I thought about John Williams doing ...
by ben_richards_bomb_collar
An old-school Hollywood epic score. Like a movie with an overture and intermission. Just a big, balls-out, "you're at the fucking movies and this is an experience" type of thing.
It sounds like they're going a different direction, but I honestly rather see a big epic than a gritty, realistic Bible movie.
Something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUPO8O1FaOk
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Jan 26, 2012 1:18:46 AM CST
Also how badass would it be to use Indy's "Ark theme" when Moses gets the Commandments
by ben_richards_bomb_collar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhpI87rKJXY
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the parting of the red sea, with the lightning, showing the whales in the water.... he'll rip that scene right off since it's a dream works production, and it'll be wonderful.
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My issue with films like this is, they do give people a false view of history.
While you can argue from peoples bibles or whatever makes the film worth while. The fact remains Moses didn't exist. The israelites were never slaves in ancient egypt, the exodus didn't happen and was pure fiction.
So any main stream production like this does actually have a misleading influence on peoples view of history. They do nothing but propagate peoples misunderstanding.
I guarantee in the western world there'd be a huge number of people who for instance may not believe moses existed, but think the jews were slaves in egypt, built the pyramids ect.
If you want to go to all this effort, just make a film set in the ancient world that even if fiction, does contain giant falsehoods. Ones that at least attempts to be set in the real world. -
Jan 26, 2012 2:32:17 AM CST
"up there in age"?! fuck, isn't the guy in his mid-60s?
by buttnasty_cockstank
HEY RIDLEY SCOTT. I GUESS YOU'RE ALREADY DEAD.
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Jan 26, 2012 2:33:54 AM CST
Schindler's List Reunion: LIAM NEESON as Moses, RALPH FIENNES as Pharoah
by shiftyeyeddog
hell, Ralph has already done Pharoah pretty good in a film for Spielberg: Dreamworks' Prince of Egypt.
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Waaaa-ahh-ahhh-ahhhh ... these tablets are heavy!!!
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sapping up Egyptian land while Morgan Freeman plays the old Patriarch
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Jan 26, 2012 3:05:59 AM CST
Raplh Fiennes has already played Pharoah.... in prince of Egypt no less....
by sam jacksons wig
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Brian Cox for Pharoah
Brian Cox for Aaron
Brian Cox for Joshua
Brian Cox for Nephritiri
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Will it show they discussing how the Ark is going to melt people who are not with their eyes closed?
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Now he's knocking out saacherine coated drivel. Moses? Oy vey!
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Unless the whole movie is a fantasy FX extravagansa, then i'll roll with it.
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IMO perfect casting
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but of course Hollywood will make him white...and Pharaoh will be played by some white egyptian looking fucker who is really european.
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I dont know if Spielberg could be objective about making a Moses movie due to his faith.
If you look at Moses, the guy was a frequent drug taker to get a visions of G-D, and he would have major knowledge of Egyptian black magick practices. and i have no dobut in my head that Moses would have had UFO experiences and would have seen these has a representation of G-D.
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rectal_blowout cries that Tesla is a one who actually made a difference. Well, thanks to Moses we have still have Israel, which is in the news after all these thousands of years. Tell me how many cultures there are still left from that age! How many empires and kingdoms have vanished in the history?
And, to make things even more interesting, has anyone ever wondered why such a small country makes in to the headlines all the time and is in the focus of this planet...?
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Have you grinspoom ever heard of archeology...? And how every single discovery of archeology has fallen into place with the Bible?
And did you know that the events of Jesus are much more reliable than that for instance Cesar even existed, according to source material, the number of copies and the time of the material was written? -
Jan 26, 2012 5:01:44 AM CST
Mikefin. Are you just repeating what someone told you? Because there is no evidence supporting any of that.
by tradeskilz
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Jan 26, 2012 5:05:04 AM CST
Scrap this - make an epic about the fall of Rome instead.
by tittytwister
Fucking barberians!!
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You're so full of shit. As a historical document the Bible is about as accurate as Lord of the Rings
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and have it be the prequel to 300.
This is Sinai!!!! -
Jan 26, 2012 5:48:44 AM CST
Last Days of Pompeii hasn't been remade for a while with up-to-date effects
by rtambree
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Jan 26, 2012 5:49:39 AM CST
there's no archaeological evidence the exodus of Moses ever took place
by rtambree
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If you want the whole Schindler's List 2: Electric Boogaloo feel.
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Jan 26, 2012 6:14:06 AM CST
According to the Bible, Moses was a stutterer, so Colin Firth? Derek Jacobi?
by rtambree
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or am I just getting used to Steve's emotional tricks?
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...the comeback weve been waiting for.
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Jan 26, 2012 6:45:56 AM CST
HARRISON FORD AS MOSES "LET MY PEOPLE..." (POINTS FINGER OF DOOM AT PHAROAH) "GO!"
by darth busey
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Jan 26, 2012 6:47:25 AM CST
GEORGE LUCAS CAN PRODUCE. INSTEAD OF "GOD", MOSES GETS THE TEN COMMANDMENTS FROM INTERDIMENSIONAL BEINGS ATOP MOUNT SINAI.
by darth busey
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dream works made the Prince of Egypt didn't they and that captured everything up to the parting of the red sea (which looked amazing) really well. All that was left was a hell of a long time walking in the desert and then he doesn't even make it to his destination. Boring. Seems like War of the Worlds to me. An incredible hour of excitement and carnage and then half an hour stuck with Tim Robbins in a basement.
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Jan 26, 2012 6:53:18 AM CST
=And, to make things even more interesting, has anyone ever wondered why such a small country makes in to the headlines all the time and is in the focus of this planet...?=
by killik
Because they are massacring every day the Palestinians in order to take their lands which was given to the Israelis by God thousands of years ago?
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the burning bush, parting of the red sea etc
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The History channel had a very good documentary explaining the Exodus miracles/plagues. There was scientific evidince of why each plague would happen and in the order they were in. One plague would lead to another, even why only the first born Egyptians died. They even explained the parting of the Red Sea. It was very interesting, yet left it open that the liklihood of it happening at that moment was very slim, unless someone/something was behind it.
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Jan 26, 2012 6:59:44 AM CST
Who the fuck said Daniel Day Lewis is too old for Moses
by dementedcaver
You read that part of the bible and Moses age by the end of it was 40+40+40 = 120. Seriously...yes...he is too old to play baby moses but jeez....do you think he is too old to play a 120 year old. Moses supposedly died a VERY old man.
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Of course Hollywood will whitewash this movie. Another Eurocenric version of World history.
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There is a lot to Moses that hasn't been told in movie form (at least, that I can think of). It does usually focus on the Exodus and the Ten Commandments, but there was much more to his story after that. A lot may not be so exciting for movies, but there were a lot of battles that he led. I know a lot of that is used against the Bible (as already mentioned), but one must understand the time and who they were fighting. Things were different then, than they are now. The Israelites were ordered to wipe out a group of people in order for them to keep from being influenced by them. It was shown several times throughout the Bible that when the Israelites (especially a king) would affiliate themselves with certain foreigners, then their influence would lead them astray and into places they shouldn't be. The so-called "slaves" could actually be seen as saving those who were deemed innocent (children and women who weren't already taken by another man). There were always exceptions, for those whose hearts were for helping the Israelites and following God. Eventually things changed, and we don't live in that world, anymore. Nations, in those days, were all one group of people, who were usually related to each other. Not like nations today, who are made up of different groups with different influences and different hearts towards evil/good. It's not fair to pull just those verses out and say that's what Christians/Jews are, or to especially say that that disproves the Bible when those things existed throughout history, and especially in the days of Moses.
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Jan 26, 2012 7:20:07 AM CST
Wow..this movie is going 2 be so white,itl going 2 make me cry
by theawareness
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Try reading the Talkback before you just repeat the same thing that somebody else said.
In other words, I already posted that joke, asshole!!!
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Pharoah = Tom Hardy
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If you want a quasi-real version of the Exodus, then set it during the explosion of Thera (now Santorini) that ended the age of the Second Dynasty in Egypt, and the Sea Kings (Minoans) in Crete. Most of the plagues can be explained as by-products of that catastrophe. But I'll bet that Spielberg won't go super-realistic, as he will offend too many Evangelicals.
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Jan 26, 2012 7:43:44 AM CST
It doesn't get better than Charlton Heston and Yul Brynner.
by grammaton cleric binks
There is no comparison.
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Jan 26, 2012 7:45:10 AM CST
"A sense of reality?" So it will actually be about Pharaoh Ahknaten? Who was most likely the actual historical basis for the mostly fictional Moses?
by has_snyder_been_fired_from_superman_yet
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Jan 26, 2012 7:47:13 AM CST
Jaws, Jurassic Park, Spielberg is good at adapting crappy books into good movies
by mugato5150
I doubt his inevitably CGI parting of the red sea will be as cool as the one they shot in the parking lot of Paramount studios back in the day.
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Jan 26, 2012 7:49:02 AM CST
Michael Fassbender as MOSES! you know because Egyptians and Hebrews were white.
by mrshootist
And still are.
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It'll be Spielberg's first biblical/religious film, and I think he's been preparing for this his entire career. He's mostly had some kind of subtle religious undertone in all of his films (Barry Pepper talking/praying to God before he shoots and kills German soldiers in Saving Private Ryan, E.T. dies and is resurrected, the religious artifacts in Indiana Jones 1 and 3, the slaves paralleling their plight to that of Jesus in Amistad, etc.). I'm not a religious person, but it's always fascinating to see what a major filmmaker does with the genre (Scorsese's Last Tempation of Christ is a great example).
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Jan 26, 2012 7:58:17 AM CST
I'd love to see a live action Prince of Egypt without the songs.
by alienindisguise
Spielberg had a hand in that since it was Dreamworks first animated movie so maybe it'll head in that direction. Also, the parting of the sea in the prince of egypt will never be topped.
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Jan 26, 2012 8:01:41 AM CST
I want to see the accurate version with kaneh-bosm ('fragrant cane', or as we know it, cannabis) used in the holy anointing oil recipe, that God gave Moses.
by highfunctioningsociopath
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Me, and Mugsy, and the boys, was just wondering...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VitfpPIxMbw
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Uhhhhhhh....Empire of the Sun, a film that David Lean was even going to originally direct.
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Is some shit watered down Spielberg (oh how great it is to be a Jew) version of the 10 commandments. Fuck off Spielberg your time is up.
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Angry much, assface?
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The book was better.
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...you aren't going to do better than Heston, Brenner, and DeMille, so why try? Besides, hasn't he already gone this route with Dreamworks' first animated feature? Enough, already.
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Chewed through everything like a fat kid at a Hershey factory.
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Jan 26, 2012 8:24:16 AM CST
Knew this was coming his entire career--The End of Close Encounters is basically Mt. Sinai in disguise
by proevad
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Where would you even start with a stupid comment like yours.
It's probably trolling.
In any accounts Jesus and the new testament is a completely different kettle of fish to the old testament.
The Jesus Caesar comment is plain silly. There is so much evidence on Caesar, primary evidence. We even know what Caesar looked like from statues and coins from when he was alive. There is no primary evidence for Jesus.
We know so much about ancient rome and it's rulers. Just as with Ancient egypt we know so much about that society. To know there's nothing at all to the Moses, exodus story.
Fringe people try and twist anything they can to possibly be evidence, always ignoring the mountain of evidence to the contrary.
Egyptian history is incredibly fascinating, and movies and stories they work to provide a twisted, false view. Those that try and undermine their achievements, is not acceptable. -
Robert Pattinson IS Moses! Taylor Lautner IS Pharaoh!!
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Stricktly paint by numbers fare. My GF broke down and cried several times which is proof War horse sucked. She has TERRIBLE taste in movies and is very easilly manipulated.
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Jan 26, 2012 8:45:45 AM CST
UltraTron's Prince of Egypt at the Egyptian Theater review:
by ultratron
Easily the most magnificent movie presentation I've seen. The theater having been re-done by Disney imagineering just before it opened. It was beyond 3D. The theater was part of the sets of the cartoon. Like a live action frame for it. Just a fusion of art and theater. The music swelled into the balcony and emotionally involved you completely. A perfect movie.
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It was called The Prince of Egypt, and even though he didn't personally direct it, his fingerprints are on every frame of that film.
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but it must end with the stone tablets being buried in an underground warehouse at the end. And someone has to say *top men*.
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Jan 26, 2012 8:55:16 AM CST
I got a new movie idea called I'm Smarter Than Steven Hawkings.
by ultratron
It's about how I was watching a 2 year old hawkings' doc about how it's impossible to go faster than light. Here in our time we know that faster than light travel is possible. And so I realized that I was temporally warpingly smarter than Hawkings. So just imagine. Just a year or so later I knew that faster than light travel was possible. All of the knowledge of science has to be re-framed to accommodate this massive discovery. Now just think how fucking stupid people were when the bible was printed up on the Gutenberg printing press and sent out all over the world. Do you think people knew anything about the actual nature of reality back then? This year I possess knowledge that makes me smarter than Steven Hawkings was a year and a half ago. But they wrote that bullshit in a perfect loop so the human brain can constantly chew on it and draw parrallels.
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And it's laws seem to be in accordance with the way neutrinos behave.
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ROFLMAO LAYR
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Jan 26, 2012 8:59:55 AM CST
So I say we all ask god in unison. The same way we all speak the name cox.
by ultratron
We create a massive prayer for god on this site and we ask for something really good. It's called non-local quantum transference. I'm thinking we should ask for more articles about tits.
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Jan 26, 2012 9:00:11 AM CST
The lord Jehovah has given unto you these fifteen -- oy! ten -- TEN commandments for all to obey!
by m6y
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would be perfect.
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Jan 26, 2012 9:03:22 AM CST
I think porno has done the best job with religion onscreen.
by ultratron
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Jan 26, 2012 9:04:52 AM CST
I get it.It is a new prequel to Raiders of the Lost Ark.HOLY CRAP.
by killik
Only this time we are going to learn how this Ark and its power was originated in the first place.Because Hollywood needs to explain everything to the movie audience.
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as the Burning Bush. (Sorry.)
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Jan 26, 2012 9:06:45 AM CST
I wonder if Sallah's ancient anchestor will have a cameo in this.
by killik
Maybe as the Pharaoh of Egypt? who knows.
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Cause if so it would be you know--the first time ever in cinematic history. I'm sick to death of pasty british Pharoahs, get this thing authentically cast or don't do it. Oded Fehr for Moses. And stick to the biblical story--there is no verifiable "historical" Moses and you'd only turn half of your viewers off if you took that approach.
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but at the same time you want an established and bankable actor capable of carrying a big movie. A couple of actors that popped into my mind: the current Superman (Henry Cavill) and Eric Bana who has already worked with Spielberg before in Munich. But I have a feeling that Spielberg's idea of Moses in his head is Richard Dreyfuss with a curly beard.
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Jan 26, 2012 9:20:09 AM CST
what ever happened to "Interstellar" or whatever, the space travel movie?
by mav07
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Jan 26, 2012 9:26:50 AM CST
Spielberg's last good film was act one of War of the Worlds. Fact!
by m6y
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Jan 26, 2012 9:39:15 AM CST
A month ago, I said to myself 'Biblical Epics' are going to be 'the next big thing' (again) ...
by unclemonty666
... so this came as no surprise.
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Jan 26, 2012 9:42:28 AM CST
Seth Rogen as Moses, John Goodman as the pharaoh, and Adam Sandler as the voice of God
by siouxcitysarsaparilla
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straight-razor than watch a Spielberg take on a fucking bible story. BORRRRRING
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And also had a speech impediment, according to the Biblical account. Let's see if he has the balls to realize this in the film.
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But if were gonna be historically accurate Denzel as Pharao. Or Eddie Murphy, he did it in Michael Jacksons video.
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so instead of Hebrew mythology (or Greek Mythology), for once we'd get epic films of Irish mythology. Could you imagine the battle between the Tuatha De Danaan and the Milesians? Or Cuchulainn and the invasion of Ulster? Or even Brian Boru, an actual historical figure with mythology built around him? I still say Morgan Llewellyn's Lion of Ireland should have been adapted long ago, especially after Braveheart was so successful.
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so basically, Daniel Day-Lewis in My Left Foot?
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you should go and see a doctor,mate.
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Jan 26, 2012 10:06:42 AM CST
I wish other directors had the clout and power to make epic movies from there culture. Imagine Spike Lee doing a film version of Roots.?
by cedhollywood
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...was such a hotty in the original. Talk about a sex kitten....Meow!
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Jan 26, 2012 10:11:09 AM CST
@Oisin1599....what the hell are you blathering about??? I didn't know Irish myths used Lovecraft as their source!
by dogmatic
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Jan 26, 2012 10:12:20 AM CST
I am very excited about this film project....sounds like something Spielberg was born to do.
by dogmatic
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But Moses supposes Erroneously, Moses he knowses his toeses aren't roses, As Moses supposes his toeses to be! Moses supposes his toeses are Roses, But Moses supposes Erroneously, A mose is a mose! A rose is a rose! A toes a toes! Hooptie doodie doodle!
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Jan 26, 2012 10:16:51 AM CST
Will this movie star a human or will it be a horse parting the Red Sea?
by magazoid
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Just joking. A great film about Moses would be terrific--all good stories can be told repeatedly, especially in different mediums that have new effects, or to feature dynamic actors we'd love to see in the roles. Of course they should seek to ground the Biblical "Moses" to whatever degree that can be accomplished--but not avoid him. Doing a purely "historical" Moses film (unless it was based on some best-selling non fiction book researched for decades) would attract just hundreds of viewers.
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But as to stories being told "before"--I hope all the gentlemen who took it upon themselves to point out that "Red Tails" had been done once, on HBO television, and therefore didn't need to be told again. The story of Moses, of course, has been told innumerable times in film, television, animation, comic books, novels, and more. And we're ready for more. That's the truth. The other comment (I suspect) is just an excuse offered by those who didn't want the story told in the first place. -
You know it's coming, don't try to fight it.
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Jan 26, 2012 10:39:12 AM CST
Wonder if he can get this out before Israel start throwing nukes around.
by l. ron bumquist
Probably won't be too good for the box office.
Prince Of Egypt was a great experience, shame Dreamworks animation went to crap straight after.
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Jan 26, 2012 11:01:28 AM CST
Is Speilberg going to include Moses' genocidal slaughter of the Midianites?
by burnhollywood
But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.
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http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/num/31.html
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Let myyyyy Camerooooon gooooooooo!!! Oh, BTW, none of the people here are experts on shit, so quit your "According to my genius and strenuous studies, the Bible is clearly all fictional. I know this cause I'm a genius." Yeah, I've seen some of the shit you guys have posted. If you're right and we die and it's just blackness and nothing, you won't be able to rub it in. Also, who's to say Spielberg isn't going to make a film about just one section of Moses' life? Oh wait, you guys know everything, I forgot.
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The first act of "War of the Worlds" was excellent, I in fact shut it off after that.
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Yo mother f×cker let my mother f×cking people go!
Lol love lohan as the 'bush' 8)
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Discuss.
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Jan 26, 2012 11:16:55 AM CST
Billy Crystal for the Edward G Robinson role.." Yea seee, ya..
by openthepodbaydoorshal
where's yore messiah nooooooowww..?"
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He's a historian.
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TALKBACK
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Jan 26, 2012 11:28:41 AM CST
I'd rather see the life of King Daniel adapted to the screen
by kidicarus
The guy was the original Renaissance man
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And yes, he would be amazing.
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I say that as a longtime defender of his and with the highest respect for his genius. I've scene all of his films. E.T. is a transcendent classic, Raiders the greatest action film ever made and also a classic, and Jaws and Schindler's are both masterpieces. Few filmmakers have delivered so many great films. And wedged in there are other incredible gems like CE3K and the first and final acts of Saving Private Ryan and the first act of War of the Worlds, underrated films like Minority Report and even underappreciated winners like 1941.
But man, his last four films are... the overrated turd Munich, Crystal Skull ('nuff said), Tintin and War Horse. Tintin was embarrassingly bad with a flaccid, go-nowhere screenplay and zero character development. Plus it's just a set-up for another movie. And in spite of its visual panache, it still has the feel of a trip to the uncanny valley. The screenplay is pure amateur-hour.
I watched War Horse with a giant WTF bubble over my head the whole time. Spielberg at his indulgent, manipulative worst. I don't care how well executed the Private Ryan-ish theatrics are in some scenes, the blatant emotional tug-at-your-heart-ness of the whole thing was wretched. Like Always and Munich, the film's very existence is largely inexplicable.
I had such high hopes for Lincoln, especially since the casting of Day-Lewis is a once-in-a-lifetime thing... just perfect. And I know a guy who's done some prepro on Robopocalypse and says it's pretty amazing.
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If you're going to quote from the Old Testament, at least understand it. Moses was serving The Lord.
The Lord said to Moses, "Take vengeance on the Midianites for the Israelites. After that, you will be gathered to your people." (Numbers 31:1-2)
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Ok, well someone had to say it/use it as the title of their discussion thread here!! Ha!!
If there is anyone in Hollywood who can successfully bring a HUGE and Epic storyline like that of Moses to the Big Screen and make it enjoyable to watch? It's definitely Mr. Spielberg!
I just wonder if he will have the scene where Moses comes down from the Mountain holding the 15 Commandments, trips and drops 5 of them...making them The 10 Commandments?
Had to throw that in there! I mean come ON!! Who doesn't think of that classic and hysterically funny scene by Mr. Mel Brooks in History of the World: Part 1 whenever Moses and/or The 10 Commandments is mentioned?!! :)
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If he's going for realism, he needs to cast unknowns. Big stars always take away from the realism, no matter how good an actor they are.
Remember when Ridley Scott found an unknown to play Saladin in Kingdom of Heaven? Didn't his character have a realism that Orlando Bloom's lacked? And it's not just Bloom's acting, even Jeremy Irons, who is a great actor, took away from the realism because, after all, that's Jeremy Irons.
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Yelling at god holding the tablets, saying, see this is what happens when you fuck a stranger in the ass!
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...I wanna know who's gonna fill Anne Baxter
and Edward G's shoes?
Ab-"I Looofe you Moooses"
EGR-"Yeah, sEE...wHeaaaREs yA goD noW moSes"
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Since Bale couldn't play Noah for Aronofsky, then I guess Moses for Spielberg will work!
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Tony Shaloub
Sure, he is mostly known for comedic roles
(Wings, Monk and MIB) but his dramatic acting in both 13 ghosts and The Siege show his serious chops. he has been bouncing around and just begging for a serious meaty role. perhaps this is the one for him... he IS middle eastern after all... i could see him for either role... actually it would be an interisting adaptation to see him in the "villan" role as Pharoh...
but cmon, give the guy a break...
otherwise Saïd Taghmaoui... ok, i am gonna give him a pass for GI Joe (as Breaker) but Ela-Shan in Conan... Caesar on Lost? Hidalgo? Sleeper Cell?
Tony as Pharoh and Saïd as moses....
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Right he made some really good movies, but I wish he made more films like Jaws or Close Encounters. If we recap his Oscar-ambitious films, they're more than the ones he made for fun. And those ones are suspected to be just cash-makers to finance his Oscar films.
So here you go: Lincoln (Daniel Day Lewis' likely 3rd Oscar win), Robocalypse (cash maker), then Moses (PURE Oscar epic, if he misses with Lincoln, then they won't be able to deny) -
Jan 26, 2012 1:49:29 PM CST
Fuck "sense of reality", his Moses should be based on this ilustration
by chubasqueiro
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ErlSRs2hBSg/TlsZ6ATYSaI/AAAAAAAADvY/LX1IVK_lDZ4/s320/extraterrestres%2Ben%2Bla%2Bbiblia.jpeg
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That's exciting!
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Jan 26, 2012 1:57:09 PM CST
I quite liked Ben Kingsley in the TNT production from the 90's.
by the_genteel_gentile
Those all had Ennio Morricone on them as well!
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Really, Steven? Of all the amazing stories sitting around, many of which have never been told, you chose... (gag!)... Moses? A story as fictional as Star Trek but far less exciting?
What a monumental waste of time and money.
Here's an idea, Steven: start reading some original scripts and ideas from screenwriters. There's a billion to choose from so decide on a genre, grab a stack, peruse the first several pages of them, and see if any get your attention. If you choose well, I bet they will. And then you'd have an original idea to make your own, to put your own stamp on and turn into a film.
But maybe you're just interested in sucking the dicks of the Bible-friendly masses so they hand over their cash to you. Kind of like Mel Gibson did a few years back.
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Jan 26, 2012 2:03:15 PM CST
My first thought for Moses is actually Adrian Brody.
by the_genteel_gentile
I believe Moses is actually discibed in the Bible as being rather meek and a stutterer. As I recall it was his brother Aaron who did much of the talking for him.
For whatever reason, my mind goes to Adrian Brody's performance in "The Pianist".
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Why do you think the Heston film apears in Close Enconters?
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Jan 26, 2012 2:05:39 PM CST
"Empire Of The Sun" WAS Spielberg's David Lean movie!
by the_genteel_gentile
It was orginally developed and intended for David Lean, much as A.I. was originally going to be Kubrick.
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Jan 26, 2012 2:07:09 PM CST
He needs to delve into the Oral Torah and not just the written
by proevad
That's where all the cool stuff is, like God striking all the Hebrews dead and raising them up again--and lifting the mountain up into the sky and threatening to drop it on them if they didn't accept the Torah. Also, it says they saw sound and heard color--film that Steven. I dare you. lol
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That would be about perfect. Nice call.
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Jan 26, 2012 2:26:37 PM CST
Still far more excited for Mel Gibson's Maccabees movie though!
by the_genteel_gentile
Gibson and Ridley Scott are just THE men for ancient world epics!
Wouldn't mind seeing some more pictured in this vein from Peter Weir, Edward Zwick, Roland Joffe and Shekhar Kapur.
Big shout out to Anthony Mann! (just because "El Cid" and "Fall Of The Roman Empire" are so awesome and shamefully underrated and "Sparticus" would have been so much better if Mann had stayed at the helm! - I believe Kubrick would agree.) -
like i realisied in my first post, i think i would rather give Tony the Meaty "villian" role as Pharoh and let Saïd Taghmaoui. bite into Moses...
both are non white actors, who have given us some PHENOMINAL roles... both middle eastern, both talented...
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Just realized he tried to this in Close Encounters--or at least alluded to it.
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Jan 26, 2012 3:00:21 PM CST
@choppah....Eric Bana...awesome...that's inspired casting. Well-played, sir.
by dogmatic
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Nobody calls me Lebowski. You got the wrong guy. I'm the Dude, man.
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I'm kind of excited to see a "realistic" version -- showing the plagues and crossing of the Red Sea and Moses' spiritual epiphany on Mount Sinai without all the distracting computer generated special effects. Let's see what spielberg gives us. If they really want realism, I hope it's done in the original Hebrew and Egyptian.
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Jan 26, 2012 3:23:20 PM CST
Make it a comedy and have William H. Macy as Moses. I might bother watching it then.
by hanyoyo
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Fassbender in this film
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Michael Fassbender in this film
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.... I'M SO FUCKED UP I SCARE MYSELF!
BUT MY PREDICTIONS ARE ALWAYS RIGHT
(PRETTY HANDY WHEN IT COMES TO GUESSING THE FOOTBALL SCORES).
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Frankly, making this movie sounds like a terrible idea. There are so many pitfalls.
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Jan 26, 2012 3:56:12 PM CST
"Exodus:Retribution of the Red Sea Pedestrians"...a Michael Bay film...
by conspiracy
A film focused entirely on the Biblical Plagues...the Angel of Death sequence might be fucking Choice.
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writes itself.
plus
Zach Galinifacausifer as MOSES
ScarJo as THE LOVE INTEREST
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Ted Danson as MOSES' FIFTY SOMETHING, EMOTIONALLY UNSTABLE, MILLIONARE STONER FRIEND
I smell romcom.
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Jan 26, 2012 4:28:21 PM CST
Yes...but Will it be Hard "R"? I won't see a film unless it is "R"
by conspiracy
I demand lots of girl on girl and anal when Moses is in the Tent of Jethro's daughters.
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Turns out that i'm a bit of a liar there though, as i'm posting about the shit i'm not giving.
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First, I hope that the maestro is in good health, because this seems a few years off...
Second - I've always thought that certain parts of the Hook score could fit a biblical epic. Specifically, the Neverland feast. I've listened to it many a times thinking of the scene in DeMille's TC when the Hebrews are packing up to get out of Egypt.
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as Dr Strange!
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That's the movie I want to see
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...as a "found footage" movie. Maybe shot by a few guys at the back of the Exodus on their cell phones.
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Jan 26, 2012 7:16:08 PM CST
call it Guns & Moses - with Sam Jackson in the title role
by whycantwealljustgetalong
A contemporary re-telling. Get Tarantino to co-direct.
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He killed women and children to take the "promised land" for himself. And he killed and raped many of his own people when they tried to defy him. No worse prophet than this guy. Ironically the apple (Israel) didnt fall too far from the tree.
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Cleopatra was hardly a fiasco for Richard Burton as it allowed him to start fucking Elizabeth Taylor. It could have been worse really . . .
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Jan 26, 2012 8:04:42 PM CST
Get Michael Bay to direct... the Red Sea could EXPLODE apart
by tiggr009
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This guy was supposed to have his own Star Wars by now, all he gives us is crap like this.
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Jan 26, 2012 10:29:50 PM CST
Flying Spaghetti Monster, the Easter Bunny and Paul Bunyan could use the epic treatment, too.
by burnhollywood
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Herc was here
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Jan 27, 2012 12:17:51 AM CST
Speaking of Biblical epics, sword and sandal pictures, etc...
by lv_426
Wasn't there supposed to be an epic remake of the epic Cleopatra?
I wonder if this Spielberg Ten Commandments one and this new Cleopatra might end up going head to head, as Hollywood is known to do sometimes with the old two films with the same or similar subject matter thing (Armageddon vs Deep Impact, Volcano vs Dante's Peak, etc)?
Personally though, I'd rather see a historical epic, not a Biblical one, although I am curious about Aronofsky's Noah's Ark project.
Anyways, I'd much rather see some kick ass historical epics. I saw a bunch of stuff on the History Channel last week about Pericles and the Golden Age of Athens. That stuff would be awesome to see on the big screen with today's technology. If you think about it, all of the Ancient Greece flicks are heavily stylized or about the mythology (Clash of the Titans, Troy, Immortals). Even 300, which I really enjoyed, was done in sort of an epic tale style where things were exaggerated and larger than life, plus the graphic novel look of it was pretty far from how something like Gladiator or the HBO series Rome was filmed.
Or how about an honest to goodness epic Ancient Egypt film? No stargates, no biblical stuff, just a historical epic with intrigue and war and all that jazz.
Or if we are going all mythological on this bitch, how about something like that talkbacker up above said about the ancient Irish mythology? What about the Epic of Gilgamesh?
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And Chris Hemsworth as Pharaoh Ramses!
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and that's a movie i want to see
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Ahnold: Yu let ma puple go!
Ramses: No...
Ahnold: Awright. I'll be back.
(later)...
Ramses: Help! Help! You're Crazy!
Ahnold: Remembah how I said I'll kill yu last?
I lied.
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Followed by 3 hours of decapitations, torture, rape and biblical revelation.
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Jan 27, 2012 5:34:31 AM CST
theawareness after watching Hardy's pefromance on The Take..
by stalkeye
..as a sociopath gangster, he's suitable as Bane..come to think of it, I would have cast him as Joker had TDKR decided to continue his story line and omit Bane.
Yeah, He's a pillow biter but what he does in his private life is none of our biz.
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Jan 27, 2012 6:03:46 AM CST
More Jewish bullshit Old Testement propaganda... as if the world wasn't fucked enough.
by workshed
That's right, I'm an anti-theist so shoot me. Spielberg has always kept his religion out of his movies and they've been all the better for it. Suppose I should expect this kind of garbage from a De Mille wannabe.
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Dakota Fanning in "Spread Thin"
a Lars von Trier film.
An uplifting story of a young womans journey of self discovery; and her personal struggle to gain acceptance from her father, and the small town she lives, in of her Anorexia and clinical Nymphomania.
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Sigourney had never much considered Anal...being a rather uptight New Yorker she grew up with the thinking that Anal sex was strictly for desperate woman from Jersey.
It was on the set of Annie Hall when Sig first discovered Anal=Access...when she was told by Diane Keaton that the only things in the business she could count on getting her work was access to quality drugs and a tight but willing granola grinder. Sigourney listened.
Alien was Sigourneys first BIG break...and with a head full of blow and a set full of sexual/mechanically suggestive props, the words of Keaton echoed through her head. Soon, Sigourney found pleasure was all around her, the various semi-phallic shaped and bone-ish props presented an endless array of inconspicuous possibilities, her anal hunger grew with every setup, and although Weaver had always hated her bony frame; soon came to know the joy of having a tight prune hole that puckered out totally exposed when she bent over. The Escape scene took a full week to shoot as Sigourney soaked through pair after pair of cotton panties...not with fake sweat, as the crew assumed, but with a seemingly endless supply of cunt honey as her aching rectum rubbed on every surface she could manage. Aliens, however, took her anal lust to a new level...and gave her a new master.
James Cunt Buster Cameron had shot to stardom with Terminator, and literally torn Linda Hamilton a new asshole in the process (a period that scarred her for life but forced her onto JC's crank a few years hence); ...but what really got him noticed in town was the flagrant and spendthrift way he burned through hot skinny tang.
James had spent many years dreaming of exploring "Ellen Ripleys" bony backside...and with his helming of the sequel...the culmination of years of backroom dealing and late night masturbation was at hand. It was a match made in heaven, and hell. Sigourney's first meeting with Cameron was quick, and revelatory...JC simply held out a pair of thin white cotton panties and at that moment years of repressed anal desire pulsated through her aching, throbbing sphincter.
Slipping them on...Weaver, it is reported, walked over to a lifesized "Alien" JC had erected in the office to inspire his minions, and lovingly enveloped it's upturned spiked tail with her mouth, covering the statue with copious amounts of her hot saliva, making sure Cameron could see the long string of it dripping from her tongue as she pulled away. Straddling the life sized beasts erect appendage, Sigourney, balanced herself and began to slowly lower her still panty clad ass upon it.
It was at this moment, when JC revealed his true nature to a momentarily stunned Weaver as he rushed towards her, grabbed her by her shoulders and screaming...No Second fucking takes...I want it done right now and right the first time, shoved her down upon the symbol of his dreams.
Sigourney felt the fabric ripping, her hip bones straining and her pulsating asshole forcibly torn apart as the "Aliens" spike penetrated her ripe Rectal ring...the air gasping from her in a soundless shriek...she clung to the monsters form to keep it from totally impaling and killing her. She had heard of Camerons explosive temper, had heard the rumors of his cunt lust...but thought them just rumors, she knew better at that moment...and deep within her burning colon she loved the truth of it all.
Sigourney didn't fight it...happy to finally and freely express her needs to a like minded person...she writhed upon the improvised sex toy, her long legs straining from the spread as she squatted her spasming shitter farther onto the decoration, the open flower of her crotch raining down it's nectar on the carpet below her...Cameron knew this film was going to work. Sources say that from that day on...the Alien never left Camerons house...unwashed, untouced, the memory of Sigourney still upon it till this day.
It was the beginning of a long, secret love affair...one that continues to this day...Sci-Fi's reigning Queen of anal...and it's most successful director...; the stories from the Avatar set are legend.
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Well mostly as soon as I saw the headline I knew this place will be filled with the usual vitrolic 'I hate religion' crowd that goes through the motions of calling the Old Testament 'fiction' or 'mythical' to calling the Israelites 'mass murderers', 'rapists', 'land-grabbers' etc. etc. tsk tsk tsk...
So I'll just toss out the blanket response...
Sorry dopes, the Old Testament historical books are true. I hope the fact that a good many people believe it keeps you up at night fearing the inevitable day you must face your mortality... as that would be beneficialfor you to start seriously considering your life and its meaning. Hopefully Spielberg doesn't tone it down and does show the killing and struggles and stuff Moses and the Israelites and what generally anybody living back in that time had to go through. You know, something that despite how our modern pussy sentimentalities like to think in our oh-so-morally-superior post-Christian secular climate, were things that required a lot of killing and a lot of war. Next thing you know, a generation from now, the same dopes raised by the anti-religious of today will be saying how The Allies were a bunch of war-thirsty crazies that did so many wrong things when they raped and killed the poor defenseless Germans who did no wrong.
Will Spielberg show that the demonstrations of the 10 plagues of Egypt were in fact calculated attacks on taking out the pantheon of false Egyptian gods? You know, Yahweh, the God of Israel proving He was the one true God by displaying power over things that the Egyptians believed were the reign of their own gods, their own devil and the divine Pharoah himself? Will it foreshadow the same conditions religious people being persecuted today faced at the hands of the Egyptians? Or is this film going to be a politically correct piece of shit where the only reason they think it'll sell is the spectacle of miracles? Kind of like how Aranofsky thinks that Noah's Ark is about some bullshit environmentalist concerns and not God's judgment on an immoral humanity?
And for the dopes who like to paint the Israelites invasion of Canaan as some kind of unrighteous war. The Canaanites were assholes who had sex with animals, practiced temple prostitution, and burnt children alive to their demonic gods. God sent prophets to them and they ignored his warnings. God told Abraham he was giving the Canaanites over 400 years to change. They didn't so He got rid of them and gave their land to Israel. The Canaanites knew of all this. They knew it was coming. They even knew why Israel was coming against them. And they didn't give a fuck, and thus got fucked over. When Israel started to ignore God, become immoral and become like the Canaanites, they got fucked over too, had war brought upon them from surrounding nations, had economic collapses and slavery under Solomon, and eventually were all exiled. When they learnt their lesson, they got their land back.
See, unlike today with your fancy television sets, and convenience stores, and welfare checks, life back then was tough. People back then were different and had to put up with a lot of shit, had to resort to doing extreme things to survive and fight and didn't have time for Entertainment Tonight and playing Halo. Hence there were tough laws governing Israel just like everywhere else on Earth. Hence why oftentimes they had to kill captured men and also loot places in wartime, because the United Nations wasn't there to airdrop supplies to them, and letting your enemies males live was pretty risky. Women were treated more kindly. They were spared. Oh, and nobody was 'raped.' At least not allwed to. An Israelite soldier who 'supposedly fell in love' with one of the captured women, couldn't just do with her as he pleased. In order to avoid 'rape' or being used by one of their soldiers, especially given the trauma of being a prisoner of war, a period was required to separate them during which she could mourn her loss, and would shave her head and be made to look undesirable. If said soldier truly did love her, he would be patient and wait it out and not care what she looked like. If not, he'd have moved on. I highly recommend looking into other laws concerning women in the Old Testament and y'know, doing some actual studying on the conditions surrounding it. You know, try actually reading the actual Bible, and not the children's or reader's digest version and also get off your ass and study history, and sociology and all that boring stuff. and not just imagine yourself some intellectual authority who immediately understands everything he reads. You'd then be able to give a much more informed opinion instead of 'LoL Rape!' or 'You just a religious Christian fag trying to make a cover story to protect your precious Bible.'
There is much more to be said for the history of Israel under Moses, who they fought, who they killed, and also yes, when Israel itself fucked up and did wrong. The Bible isn't a PR piece to sell you a product. It's a historical book and sheds light on the good and mostly bad and outright evil side of humanity left to their own devices, which must really piss off the humanists here who think the human race is some great angelic thing that can do no wrong and is forever evolving into some mighty being. Yes, you anti-religious nutcases! Informed Christians are well aware of the 'bad things' in the Bible. That's the friggin point! You're not displaying any revelation here that no-one has noticed and that no-one has accounted for. But feel free to continue on in your bigotry and ignorance. It's easier to live like a simpleton and unintellectual while pretending you are because you're informed by Hollywood and a bunch of kook evolution scientists who believe live on earth was designed by an alien race who stuffed it onto a meteorite and seeded it on Earth (kinda like Superman) to self replicate and reinvent itself magically against all odds.
Anyway, I bet dollars and cents that this new Moses movie, like the Noah's Ark movie will be puff humanist and environmentalist pieces devoid of their historical and religious context, and foreshadowing of Christianity, and made to conform to the general feel-good togetherness pro-tolerence spirituality of the mass market.
I'll put more stock into Mel Gibson's 'Maccabbeus' film, which, like 'The Passion' can be awesome, and despite all the shit he's pulled or been through, Gibson at least has the balls to adapt things for what they are and doesn't pussy out, which Spielberg could likely do, and which Aronofsky already in his own words is committed to doing. And here I'm talking about the actual Biblical themes and messages relevant in their accounts and the purpose of it all which has to do with God's relationship to a fallen and sinful humanity and foreshadowing teh Gospel message; not the general violence and spectacle, which no doubt will be retained as it should, but without the former all you've got is some fancy story with entertaining action scenes and FX and baseline morality that ignores the grander scale in order to appeal to everybody. -
tiss the way of the Anal
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Jan 27, 2012 2:12:32 PM CST
Um, johno...nothing predictable about conspiracy's story
by s-mart shopper
except for the resulting seed spillage by what I predict to be dozens of TBers
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sounds like the 1st book in a magnificent series
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Hollywood is corrupted by the fucking Jews
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that or go with a tough guy Moses and cast DeNiro. *quietly Moses approaches the burning Bush and then says "Are you talking to me, are you talking to me.*
Samuel Jackson or Joe Pesci as the voice of God.
Just remember Mose was the humblest man on Earth when he was alive. -
Don't know if you're one of the tribe, but I hope you are. It's lonely on here. Great post. Won't do any good with these heathens, but nicely said lol
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Jan 30, 2012 10:56:24 AM CST
Hold on guys. The script is by Michael Green who wrote Green Lantern so I think we can put all our concerns to one side.
by siouxcitysarsaparilla
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