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Beaks here...
This is it: months of campaigning and millions of dollars are about to determine the pinnacle of artistic achievement in motion pictures for the year 2011. It's Oscar time, y'all! Once again, The Weinstein Company has the thoroughbred to beat (THE ARTIST), while frequent nominees like Martin Scorsese, Meryl Streep and Woody Allen are back for more peer-bestowed plaudits. And then there's Brad Pitt, expected to be nominated in both acting categories (lead for MONEYBALL, supporting for THE TREE OF LIFE). Is this his year, or will he be thwarted by Christopher Plummer and his best buddy in the whole world, George Clooney? We'll soon find out!!!
If you're looking for surprises, the film that might make a stronger showing than expected is TINKER, TAILOR, SOLDIER, SPY (the terrific spy thriller was ignored by the guilds, but has allegedly caught on with AMPAS members over the last few weeks). WAR HORSE could also sneak in for Picture and Director. And a fella can always hope for a surprise Elizabeth Olsen nomination in the Actress race.
I'll be updating throughout the morning with piercing analysis of each category. And now, the nominees (please bear with me if formatting is a little wonky at first)...
Best Picture
THE ARTIST
THE DESCENDANTS
THE HELP
HUGO
EXTREMELY LOUD & INCREDIBLY CLOSE
MIDNIGHT IN PARIS
WAR HORSE
THE TREE OF LIFE
MONEYBALL
Industry buzz indicated that this would be, at most, a seven-movie field. Somehow, nine titles made it, and the mush-headed branch of the Academy must've really fallen for the hateful grief porn that is EXTREMELY LOUD & INCREDIBLY CLOSE. This is easily the worst film ever nominated for Best Picture. Overproduced mediocrities have won before, but nothing this abhorrent has ever snuck into the race. It currently has a rotten rating on Rotten Tomatoes. Has a "rotten" movie been nominated before? I doubt it.
THE ARTIST is the clear frontrunner, and will probably win because it is slight and likable. Given its eleven nominations, HUGO would seem to be the only film capable of beating it out, but I think THE HELP could overtake it - though it'll probably split the emotional cripple/imbecile vote with EXTREMELY LOUD & INCREDIBLY CLOSE.
Best Director
Michel Hazanavicius, THE ARTIST
Alexander Payne, THE DESCENDANTS
Martin Scorsese, HUGO
Woody Allen, MIDNIGHT IN PARIS
Terrence Malick, THE TREE OF LIFE
No surprises here. David Fincher was thought to be a possibility, but the lack of a Picture nomination in a nine-movie field tells the tale. Hazanavicius is the favorite, but Scorsese is right there with him.
Best Actor
Demian Bichir, A BETTER LIFE
George Clooney, THE DESCENDANTS
Jean Dujardin, THE ARTIST
Gary Oldman, TINKER, TAILOR, SOLDIER, SPY
Brad Pitt, MONEYBALL
Kudos to Demian Bichir for a well-deserved nomination. He was heartbreaking in Chris Weitz's A BETTER LIFE. Also glad to see Oldman in this group; I'd love to see Pitt and Clooney cancel each other out, and clear the way for an Oldman win.
Best Actress
Glenn Close, ALBERT NOBBS
Viola Davis, THE HELP
Meryl Streep, THE IRON LADY
Rooney Mara, THE GIRL WITH THE DRAGON TATTOO
Michelle Williams, MY WEEK WITH MARILYN
It's presumed Mara took Tilda Swinton's spot, but, in terms of merit (irrelevant when discussing the Oscars), Mara and Swinton should be running neck-and-neck for the win. Close was godawful in the unwatchable ALBERT NOBBS; Streep showboated in the useless THE IRON LADY. David was good, but she's been better in much better movies. Go Rooney.
Best Supporting Actor
Kenneth Branagh, MY WEEK WITH MARILYN
Jonah Hill, MONEYBALL
Nick Nolte, WARRIOR
Cristopher Plummer, BEGINNERS
Max von Sydow, EXTREMELY LOUD & INCREDIBLY CLOSE
Albert Brooks is the obvious snub here, but he also failed to get a SAG nomination, so this isn't a huge surprise. Still disappointing. Not that it matters. Plummer is going to win.
Best Supporting Actress
Berenice Bejo, THE ARTIST
Jessica Chastain, THE HELP
Melissa McCarthy, BRIDESMAIDS
Janet McTeer, ALBERT NOBBS
Octavia Spencer, THE HELP
This is Octavia's to lose. Not crazy about her performance, but it's not like anyone else in this group was blindingly brilliant.
Best Adapted Screenplay
Alexander Payne and Nat Faxon & Jim Rash, THE DESCENDANTS
John Logan, HUGO
George Clooney, Grant Heslov and Beau Willimon, THE IDES OF MARCH
Steven Zaillian and Aaron Sorkin (story by Stan Chervin) MONEYBALL
Bridget O'Connor & Peter Straughan, TINKER, TAILOR, SOLDIER, SPY
I admired HUGO, but Scorsese's visual poetry elevated Logan's pat screenplay. MONEYBALL has grown on me (and I dug the cynicism of THE IDES OF MARCH, which will resonate heading into a presidential election year), but this belongs to TINKER, TAILOR, SOLDIER, SPY. THE DESCENDANTS will win.
Best Original Screenplay
Michel Hazanavicius, THE ARTIST
Kristen Wiig & Annie Mumolo, BRIDESMAIDS
J.C. Chandor, MARGIN CALL
Woody Allen, MIDNIGHT IN PARIS
Asghar Farhadi, A SEPARATION
Chandor was a surprise, but MARGIN CALL got a huge boost during screener season (shame Fox Searchlight was slow on the draw with the MARGARET screeners; Lonergan should be in this group). It'll be a travesty if anyone other than Farhadi wins, but this is the Oscars, so a travesty it'll be! I think Allen wins for one of his more modest pleasures.
Best Foreign Film
BULLHEAD (Belgium)
MONSIEUR LAZHAR (Canada)
A SEPARATION (Iran)
FOOTNOTE (Israel)
IN DARKNESS (Poland)
Congrats to the Drafthouse crew for their BULLHEAD nomination! I wish I could pull for it over A SEPARATION, but Farhadi's movie is a once-in-a-lifetime film. This is a goofy category (you have to see all five movies to vote), so I'm prepared for an idiotic upset. Watch out for FOOTNOTE. I won't even begin to ponder the misguided political reasons why this might occur.
Best Animated Feature
A CAT IN PARIS
CHICO AND RITA
KUNG FU PANDA 2
PUSS IN BOOTS
RANGO
No CARS 2, no TINTIN, no WINNIE THE POOH... just bizarre. I thought TINTIN would win this. Now that it's not nominated, RANGO is the clear favorite.
Best Art Direction
Laurence Bennett; Robert Gould, THE ARTIST
Stuart Craig; Stephenie McMillan, HARRY POTTER AND THE DEATHLY HALLOWS: PART 2
Dante Ferretti; Francesca Lo Schiavo, HUGO
Anne Seibel; Helene Dubreuil, MIDNIGHT IN PARIS
Rick Carter; Lee Sandales, WAR HORSE
No real qualms here. Probably a two-horse race between HUGO and THE ARTIST. If HUGO starts racking up victories early in the Oscar broadcast, it could portend a Best Picture upset.
Best Cinematography
Guillame Schiffman, THE ARTIST
Jeff Cronenweth, THE GIRL WITH THE DRAGON TATTOO
Robert Richardson, HUGO
Janusz Kaminski, WAR HORSE
Emmanuel Lubezki, THE TREE OF LIFE
All worthy nominees. Lubezki would be my choice, but Richardson feels like the favorite. They're both masters, which means they'll probably lose to Schiffman.
Best Costume Design
Lisy Christl, ANONYMOUS
Mark Bridges, THE ARTIST
Sandy Powell, HUGO
Michael O'Connor, JANE EYRE
Arianne Phillips, W.E.
A Madonna-directed film has been nominated for an Academy Award! No idea who wins this, but smart money is on Powell.
Best Editing
Anne Sophie-Bion and Michel Hazanavicius, THE ARTIST
Kevin Tent, THE DESCENDANTS
Kirk Baxter, Angus Wall, THE GIRL WITH THE DRAGON TATTOO
Thelma Schoonmaker, HUGO
Christopher Tellefsen, MONEYBALL
DRIVE wuz robbed. And what the hell is THE DESCENDANTS doing here (it received an ACE nomination, too)? Love Thelma, but, much as I disliked the film, Baxter and Wall did their job brilliantly on DRAGON TATTOO.
Best Makeup
THE ARTIST
HARRY POTTER AND THE DEATHLY HALLOWS: PART 2
THE IRON LADY
Only HARRY POTTER is deserving. May the best wig-maker win.
Best Original Score
Ludovic Bource, THE ARTIST
John Williams, THE ADVENTURES OF TINTIN
Howard Shore, HUGO
Alberto Iglesias, TINKER, TAILOR, SOLDIER, SPY
John Williams, WAR HORSE
Williams will cancel himself out, which means Bource probably eke out a win (though the cue most film-ignorant voters swooned over belongs to Bernard Herrmann).
Best Original Song
"Man or Muppet" from THE MUPPETS
"Real in Rio" from RIO
Let this be the death of this useless fucking award (though I hope "Man or Muppet" wins).
Best Sound Editing
DRIVE
HUGO
MONEYBALL
TRANSFORMERS: DARK OF THE MOON
WAR HORSE
Best Sound Mixing
THE GIRL WITH THE DRAGON TATTOO
HUGO
MONEYBALL
TRANSFORMERS: DARK OF THE MOON
WAR HORSE
Best Visual Effects
HARRY POTTER AND THE DEATHLY HALLOWS: PART 2
HUGO
RISE OF THE PLANET OF THE APES
TRANSFORMERS: DARK OF THE MOON
REAL STEEL
Hugely disappointed that THE TREE OF LIFE was shut out, but at least this isn't a HEREAFTER over SCOTT PILGRIM scenario. All of these films featured excellent f/x work. RISE OF THE PLANET OF THE APES should win, and hopefully the crew will bring Andy Serkis up to the stage with them.
Best Documentary Feature
HELL AND BACK AGAIN
PINA
IF A TREE FALLS: A STORY OF THE EARTH LIBERATION FRONT
PARADISE LOST 3: PURGATORY
UNDEFEATED
I've only seen three of these films, and my vote would go to PARADISE LOST 3. Bummed Werner Herzog's INTO THE ABYSS didn't even make the shortlist. Ditto Steve James's THE INTERRUPTERS.
Best Documentary Short Subject
THE BARBER OF BIRMINGHAM: FOOT SOLDIER OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT
GOD IS THE BIGGER ELVIS
INCIDENT IN NEW BAGHDAD
SAVING FACE
THE TSUNAMI AND THE CHERRY BLOSSOM
Best Animated Short Film
"Dimanche/Sunday"
"The Fantastic Flying Books of Mr. Morris Lessmore"
"La Luna"
"A Morning Stroll"
"Wild Life"
Best Live-Action Short Film
"Pentecost"
"Raju"
"The Shore"
"Time Freak"
"Tuba Atlantic"
Want some reactions from the nominees? Well, screw you, you're gettin' 'em anyway!
Here's Wim Wenders, director of the 3D PINA (and one of my all-time favorite films, PARIS, TEXAS):
"It's fantastic to be nominated for Best Documentary for the second time after "Buena Vista Social Club", especially as it is the first time for a 3D film to be given that honor. All the dancers and collaborators of the Tanztheater Wuppertal Pina Bausch, together with the crew and the production company Neue Road Movies, are extremely honored. With our journey into the magical kingdom of the great German choreographer Pina Bausch we wanted to raise a monument to this pioneer of modern dance. The worldwide success of PINA and now this Oscar nomination are fantastic rewards and recognition of our common work."
Here's Martin Scorsese...
I am deeply honored to have been nominated by the Academy for my work on Hugo. Every picture is a challenge, and this one - where I was working with 3D, HD and Sacha Baron Cohen for the first time - was no exception. It's a wonderful feeling to know that you've been recognized by the people in your industry. I congratulate my fellow nominees. It's an impressive list, and I'm in excellent company.
Gore Verbinski...
It is an incredible honor to be nominated this morning. We set out to do something different with RANGO, and this distinction is a testament to everyone who tirelessly dedicated themselves to creating our neurotic lizard. Rango was looking for an audience who shared his love of cinema and I’m humbled that he found one. It has been a remarkable journey, and one that I am grateful to share with our entire creative team, Paramount, and all of the virtuosos at Industrial, Light and Magic.
And Philippe Falardeau, director of Best Foreign Film nominee MONSIEUR LAZHAR...
“What is happening to the film is galaxies away from what I had initially hoped for. I say this, of course, in a good way. I rejoice in the fact that such an intimate film can find its way alongside Hollywood productions, proof that there is not only one path to artistic and public recognition. I am thrilled and I want to share this moment with all the members of Monsieur Lazhar's team, wherever they are right now. This is also their nomination. I also have a special thought at this moment for my family.”
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A shitty selection
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No point
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What to make of this. Some surprises...
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Two identical Christopher Plummer entries posted.
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Was he playing a dual role, or is there actually two actors with almost the same first name?
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Jan 24, 2012 7:54:42 AM CST
How does a movie with 48% on the Tomato Meter get a best picture nominee?!?!?
by beastie
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Slow year in film once again.
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Jan 24, 2012 7:56:16 AM CST
Tintin gets snubbed for animated feature....and in its place is
by openthepodbaydoorshal
Chico And Rita? Glad Margin Call got a nod as did Demian Bichir AND Nick Nolte for Warriors. At least the academy is looking outside the usual suspects.
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Fix please
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But shitty War Horse is nominated? Man, Pete Jackson must have pissed off someone in the Academy.
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Wait. What?
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Jan 24, 2012 7:57:19 AM CST
Aside from HUGO, this could be the most boring year in movies.
by bartleby t. scrivener
yawn.
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You all know it.
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Jan 24, 2012 7:58:24 AM CST
Two Noms for Christopher Plummer for the same film would be well deserved!
by _palmer_eldritch
Especially in a year this shitty. Also, two noms for Pitt would have been the right thing to do, his performance in Tree of Life is great. Should've gotten a best supporting nod for that.
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If only because of no Drive and leaving out Fassbender for Shame, which is FUCKING RIDICULOUS. I might not even watch that's such a stupid snub. PLus nominating extremely loud for no reason. The artist isn't worthy. Descendants was shit. Man this is a terrible, terrible year. Way off in my opinion.
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Jan 24, 2012 8:00:28 AM CST
@parissun: That would be rather fitting. Let's start a "Puss in Boots for Best Picture" campaign
by _palmer_eldritch
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Did they try that in the best motion picture category? And why isn't drive nominated, even though there are only 9 movies nominated instead of last years 10?
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Jan 24, 2012 8:01:55 AM CST
Man or Muppet nominated for Best Song, a category with only 2 nominees!
by ari_gold
I hope this one wins. Hopefully Segal and Parsons sing it live at the show.
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Don't know if they have a hope in hell, but they'd be damn well deserved.
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Michael Fassbender and Carey Mulligan were so haunting in that film. I thought for sure they'd both get nominated.
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Glad to see he is up there for his supporting role in "Warrior" after being overlooked. The scene where he is drunk and pours his heart out to Hardy was heartbreaking.
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Damn you all to hell…
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Jan 24, 2012 8:03:15 AM CST
Harry Potter Deathly Hallows 2 nominated for 3 Academy Awards.
by ari_gold
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Pulling for Hugo to pick up Best Picture.
Stunned that Bridesmaids picked up a best screenplay nod when 50/50 was superior in every way.
Also, is this the first year Pixar have been eligible for Best Animated but not received a nomination?
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It's one of "those" years, I guess.
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Jan 24, 2012 8:03:28 AM CST
Is moneyball that good?? I just didnt want to see a story about a team that win's.....well......nothing.
by whatevillurks
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No nomination, really?? Shame and A Dangerous Method not enough to at least get a nod? Or is it because he was in a superhero movie? Regardless he should have been nominated. UGHH.
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Are irrelevant
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That is really fucked up. Extremely Loud is the worst best pic nomination since Ghost.
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Jan 24, 2012 8:09:08 AM CST
b arnold -- Can't pull the superhero movie card anymore dude
by larry sellers
Not since 2009.
But how those two were entirely excluded and Bridesmaids found two noms is beyond me.
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and GARY FUCKING OLDMAN FTW--finally. These are initial thoughts just browsing thru.
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Just fucking Sigh. Can't remember the last time I stayed up to watch the Oscars hoping my favourite actor or director or film won something. This year will be no different. And I'm sure The Artist is a wonderful film, and I'll admit I havent seen it, but when a silent film is tipped to bag best picture surely somethings fucking going wrong in movies today. Only thing that makes me happy is the Rango nomination.
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Just goes to show you how rigged the whole thing is.
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Just kidding.
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I'm glad it got a best actor nod for Dujardin but I can't understand the huge critical push its been given for awards.
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Jan 24, 2012 8:14:02 AM CST
Did you notice that they are back to nominating typical award bait again?
by derlanghaarige
No APES, no DRIVE, some might even say that POTTER deserved it. I thought the up-to-10-nominees change was done to nominate a wider spectrum of movies, including more popcorn-ish stuff like DISTRICT 9. But hey, I predicted that years ago.
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include Bridesmaids, a plodding, mass-market comedy where the funniest bits were likely improvised, & that was deemed by Judd Apatow to be just shy of Funny Enough, & thus in need of a scene where girls have uncontrollable diarrhea.
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but Drive not being on there is a fucking travesty. I'm really pissed off and don't understand what the fuck is going on there.
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Jan 24, 2012 8:15:56 AM CST
They're threw in two artsy fartsy Animated films in the Best Animated Film category this year.
by orionsangels
Usually it's big budget high profile commercial Animated films made in the States. I guess someone complained.
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Jan 24, 2012 8:16:19 AM CST
How the Hell was WARRIOR not Nominated..BEST MOVIE of 2011...
by rhoadesfire71
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EVVVVEERRRYYY ONE!!!
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Agree with others, very weak year for movies particularly geeky genre movies - 2012 def looks set to rectify that though!
Sad to see Alan Rickman STILL has never recieved a nom - to really rub salt in looks like they nominated Christopher Plummer twice instead! -
I'm sure they're all fine movies, but none of 'em interest me in the least. Clooney and Pitt up against each other for Best Actor should add some excitement to the ceremony, I guess. And how come CAPTAIN AMERICA didn't get an Effects nom for "Skinny Steve"?
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Jan 24, 2012 8:17:08 AM CST
The Fat kid with the Jew Fro from SUPERBAD is nominated for an Oscar???
by orionsangels
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good fucking call
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Wow. I guess raunchy white women are the new "black" in the biz.
That movie was awful. Take Melissa out of that picture and it would of been one of the worst movies ever!
Nothing original about that screenplay....really, just wow.
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Oh, the bromance will be the spectacle on the red carpet! I'm sure Clooney will have something witty to say about Brad since he can't talk about comparing dicks with Fassbender this time. He sure knows how to blow smoke up Hollywood's ass. What an overrated piece of shit he is.
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I agree but Fassbinder didn't die tragically.
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Jan 24, 2012 8:19:26 AM CST
RISE OF THE PLANET OF THE APES will win best Visual Effects!
by orionsangels
Mostly because Andy Serkis is involved, but aside from that it is pretty ground breaking.
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Moneyball isn't about the team. It's about a man and an idea. If you like character studies you will enjoy it.
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The Dark Knight Rises may be the superhero movie with the most Oscar nominees/winners, seven with: Bale, Caine, Freeman, Oldman, Hathaway, Cotillard and Conti.
Academy Award nominee Jonah Hill.
Academy Award nominee Kristen Wiig
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Ralph Fiennes did an amazing job there, as did John Logan (with a little help of Bill Shakespeare). But I guess the Academy doesn't do Shakespeare, not for lack of pretense, but for lack of American-ness.
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Jan 24, 2012 8:22:08 AM CST
I actually think MONEYBALL is the best picture of the year.
by darth saruman
It should definitely win adapted screenplay(although I haven't seen The Descendants or The Ides Of March yet)
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for best doc. I was like, "what the fuck!"
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Jan 24, 2012 8:22:30 AM CST
Can't wait to hear Crystal's song opening for this list of nominees...
by openthepodbaydoorshal
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is cars 2 the first pixar not to get nominated????
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Jan 24, 2012 8:23:39 AM CST
@darth_kaos I agree. Bridesmaid is one of the most overrated films of 2011
by orionsangels
It's not a bad film. It's ok, but since it was all made by women and a box office success. It's running away with the tagline. Women can do it on their own in Hollywood. You go Girl! Let's lift it up to exaggerated heights.
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Come on!
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Aah, looks like Christopher Plummer being nommed twice has now been corrected by the butterfingered Mr Beaks.
Still couldn't fit Alan Rickman in though - an actor who's never given a bad performance - guess they could only name 5 though and they needed the space for.. WHAT THE FUCK??!
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I must be really stupid because I just don't get the accolades for this film. 25% nature channel drivel / 25% Sean Penn looking moody / 50% boring story of kids running around in the 50's. Mainly this movies made me want to go back and rewatch Stand By Me which was a WAYYY more entertaining film about kids growing up.
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Transformers vs Apes vs Potter vs Hugo vs Real Steel for Visual Effects. Could you imagine if a Michael Bay blu ray had an Oscar Winner banner on the cover.
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Nothing? Picture, cinematography, writing, music, and Albert Brooks to recognize, and Drive gets nothing.
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seriously? lol.....At least Oldman finally got some love. I know he doesn't have a chance in hell but at least he's recognized.
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He did a good job, and he played Sir Larry in a bio-pic, so the Robert Wagner-Debbie Reynolds generation rewarded him.
Bad year for films. It 1980-1982 all over again. The films that will last and be celebrated 30 years from now lose to Made for TV movies or throwbacks to a previous era.
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Jan 24, 2012 8:34:28 AM CST
No Warrior for Best Pic??? Well, I expected that but it still disappoints me...MY fave of 2011.
by dogmatic
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Jan 24, 2012 8:36:08 AM CST
The two best supporting oscars are a lock for Plummer and Spencer as is Visual for Apes as is A Separation for Foreign Film.
by dogmatic
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Jan 24, 2012 8:37:25 AM CST
are you fucking kidding me? with Billy C. hosting this is like the geriatric awards. may be the first year I don't watch...
by simpsonian
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Jan 24, 2012 8:37:32 AM CST
yay for Melissa Mccarthy, the Bridesmaids screenplay and no fucking pixar! but fuck the rest....
by baronweazle
...fucking predictable list. No love for Drive at all and fuck Midnight in Paris, Woody Allen has been spitting out mediocre drivel like that, ever since the mid eighties. The only good thing it had going for it, was great cinematography and that wasn't fucking nominated FUCK THIS SHIT!!!!!
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It is a three-way between The Artist, The Descendants and Hugo as the sleeper. Right now though the early frontrunner is The Artist. The Academy digs the crap out of bold attempts that are also endearing.
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Yay!
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I say its Clooney's to lose. The Artist's best pic nod will open things up for the other categories and Clooney has yet to grab the big one. So they honor him here.
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No Drive.
No Apes.
No Serkis.
Yes Extrememly Loud Oscar Bait gets a nod??
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They dont give it to Meryl this year...others are strong but this seems to be Glenn Close's to lose....Oscar's proclivity for ladies making themselves as ugly as possible knows no bounds.
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Marty?? As long as they don't double honor The Artist in the big 6 then I can't see them giving Woody one and I doubt they will cater to Malik by awarding him for a film that most of the Academy doesnt get...he was lucky to get nominated. So, maybe this is Payne's chance to shine since The Descendants probably won't win....so yeah...I say this is Payne's award for now b/c Marty already got honored for Hugo at the GG's.
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It makes me smile when comedic actors get love - especially McCarthy, who did it on a purely comedic role that included toilet humor. Though really, she was the best part of that movie, and I'm guessing a lot of what she did wasn't written.. screenplay nod for Bridesmaids doesn't make sense.
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Jan 24, 2012 8:41:46 AM CST
The best part about the Oscars is shitting on it on this board while it is happening live
by proevad
join us. Need more people this year. Especially this year. byob.
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I would say this is Moneyball's award...but Oscar has done full shut outs a lot lately so in that case I say The Descendants gets the love.
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Jan 24, 2012 8:42:21 AM CST
Drive and Apes were both nominated in shitty categories nobody cares about.
by baronweazle
While both were bettter films than most on the list above.
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Why shouldn't Clooney win?
He's a great actor. Although Oldman has deserved an Oscar for years.
I haven't seen The Descendants yet, or Tinker Tailor, but am dying to see both.
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Unless they shock me go all in for The Artist...then this is the time to honor Woody Allen for the first time in awhile for his Midnight in Paris script. It was pretty good too.
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Jan 24, 2012 8:43:37 AM CST
EXTREMELY LOUD & INCREDIBLY CLOSE is the most shameless Oscar bait I've even heard about
by mugato5150
Now I haven't seen it but it's something right out of Tropic Thunder. Apparently it stars Tom Hanks (DING!), who befriends a kid with autism (DING!), whose father died (DING!)...in 9/11 (DING!) and his grandparents were in the Holocaust (DING! DING! DING!). It looks like the perfect storm of pandering.
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Hasn't that been universally panned?! How the hell did that get nominated for ANYTHING!!!!!!
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Jan 24, 2012 8:44:00 AM CST
Oh I will defeinitely be shitting all over the oscars live on the talkbacks this year!!!
by baronweazle
It's gonna be a legendary crapfest!!!
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Gosh, it's between Kung Fu Panda 2 and Rango right? But I have no idea of those two foreign animateds....so who knows? To lock in though I will go with Rango.
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That should be Hugo's but it's The Artist's to lose for recreating the feel of a silent film.
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Clooney is "overrated"? Go fuck a wall socket. He gets exactly the accolades he deserves and according to all, he is a genuinely nice person.
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Steve Rogers turning from 10lb weakling into Captain America was a stunning. Nothing else matches it visually.
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Gosh, I KNOW it is a feat to accomplish a modern look for a silent film....but COME ON! HOW do you NOT give this to Tree of Life??? It HAS to get honored somehow and this seems a no-brainer.
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Jan 24, 2012 8:45:54 AM CST
If Malick wins I hope he explains that ending while onstage
by millermeusa
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Great fucking movie. Told a tight and moving story, great fight scenes and genuine emotion.
And I'll watch anything with Nolte in it just to hear him speak.
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The Artist takes this for all the same reasons as listed above....recreating an era...endearing...blah blah...still need to see this film badly.
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and loved most of them. This year I've seen 2.5 (my girlfriend and her sister watched 'The Help' while I was doing homework), and I have no interest in any of them. I've gone to the theater less this year than any other year I can think of.
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The Artist....Oscar will reward mixing the old and the new this year greatly.
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The Artist. Ditto.
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J Williams getting two nods is his award...not Shore's year.....they further reward the film where score is a star itself. The Artist.
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Tom Hardy and Joel Edgerton were incredible in WARRIOR.
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THey reward Drive here and pat themselves on the back despicabably
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First off, the movie has a ton of improv in it. How can you nominate it for best screenplay?
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They reward War Horse here and pat themselves on the back despicably.
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Paradise Lost 3 is the only one I have seen and it should win b/c it is brilliant.
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Jan 24, 2012 8:51:15 AM CST
10 best picture nominations but 5 best director nominations? ROFL FUCKING ACADEMY.
by killik
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But he needs to win just on general principle. Usually I don't agree with actors getting awards for their body of work as opposed to what they're nominated for but they do it anyway and if anyone deserves it it's him.
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Jan 24, 2012 8:51:27 AM CST
Best Short Doc, Short Animated and Short Live-Action....always a crap shoot for me...HOW do we SEE these?? Anyone? Bueller?
by dogmatic
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Jan 24, 2012 8:51:49 AM CST
The Artist will get Best Picture Oscar and a bunch others.FACT.
by killik
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Listening to Daft Punk's score for TRON Legacy many times over the past week, I am still scratching my head that it wasn't nominated for best score last year. It was fucking outstanding piece of work.
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While I enjoyed Rango a bit more, Chico and Rita was a fantastic film made for adults and it treated the subject matter in a mature manner. I'd love to see it win just to make the statement that cartoons aren't just for kids.
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Jonah 'Fat Cunt' Hill nominated for best supporting actor? That just sums up another disappointing oscars. Makes me wish Eddie Murphy was still hosting............
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Should have got a best supporting actor nod, possibly also best director and editing. Pity... it was one of the most daring films this year together with Shame.
I root for Rise of the Planet of the Apes for Best Special Effects. The monkeys / apes were amazing and so realistic. I think the film should have got even more recognition.
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Go ahead, Academy. Stupidly vote "The Artist" as best picture. It's still not going to be seen by hardly anyone, and your yearly pageant will continue to nosedive in the ratings.
I'm your target audience. I love these shows - the length, the stupid montages, the canned patter. But even this year, I can't quite work up the excitement to bother.
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Jan 24, 2012 8:54:28 AM CST
If Jonah Hill wins everyone can relax knowing that the next time I see him I will do as Val commands
by ultratron
and take a large stick to his head. So the real question is will those damn dirty apes beat the transformers? Here's UltraTron's list of reasons why transformers 3 should win over apes. And reasons why apes should win over transformers.
Transformers 3: biggest effects spectacle ever filmed with the new avatar 2 camera. Technically the most impressive and convincing 3D IMAX presentation ever done. Looked like you were standing on a street in Chicago. Every element was crystal clear with no mixed grain as is evident in many shots in apes. The robots look absolutely real. Many shots in apes look questionable in comparison. I could go on and on but if you haven't seen this movie just ask yourself by the time shockwave is strangling a skyscraper- when have I ever seen a more epic movie in my life? Consider everything from Titanic to empire when you ask this question. Yes transformers 3 -if nothing else- redefines
the epic movie scale.
Apes: should win best effects for Dr. Zaius and the mean looking ape that has it's lips sucked in the respirator. Yet despite incredible effects work there are camera choices for some shots that accentuate the fakiness of digital. There's grain inconsistencies throughout. There's nowhere near the amount of effects onscreen with far less elements and set integration. Apes when animated naturally like doctor Zaius look quite convincing but harder to believe when forced to act for the action of the story. Robots in transformers 3 look 100% real in every shot.
In closing I'm gonna say the transformers are the slicker package. I'm betting the academy goes with apes because they are furry. Everyone loves a non-detailed and easier to design gorilla covered in a nice hair simulation so you dont have to mess with hdri for every little reflection and all the trillions of considerations a transformer has over a gorilla. Oh and fuck you Andy Serkis -
Jan 24, 2012 8:55:29 AM CST
I would say The Artist is the second biggest Oscar bait movie
by mugato5150
next to EXTREMELY LOUD & INCREDIBLY CLOSE but THE ARTIST is actually supposed to be good.
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Tin Tin would could best animated feature right? I'm surprised it wasn't nominated since it was great fun and well made.
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especially since it won the Golden Globe. Was the movie not submitted in the animation category?
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Jan 24, 2012 8:56:20 AM CST
@felix_happer....TOTALLY AGREE WARRIOR WAS MY BEST PICTURE PICK! LOVED IT.
by dogmatic
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Daft Punk didn't get nominated last year.
This year, Cliff Martinez (or is that Angela Badalamenti) and Trent Reznor get left out.
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We all know that the Oscars are a lobbying shit show, but I wonder just how much graft played a fucking part here.
No Albert Brooks? This is the same level of playing outside of typecast that gave Denzel an Oscar for Training Day. WHAT THE FUCK?
Did any of the voters even SEE Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy? Sure, they nominated Oldman, who should win in a walk, but goddamn, the last 10 minutes of that film ALONE should have garnered it the Best Picture nod.
And Drive...
This is a film that subtly redefined an entire genre. There will never be a film like this again, and yet Winding Refn can't get a nod for what is clearly a fucking masterpiece.
If it were good enough to get a standing ovation at Cannes, it should be good enough to get a nod over Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close, a film that is almost universally hated.
But I MUST go back to my disappointment that our friend, Albert Brooks didn't even get his due consideration. In the words of my friend and lifelong mentor, Robert Montgomery Knight, "THIS IS ABSOLUTE FUCKING BULLSHIT!" -
.....for his INCEPTION score!
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Jan 24, 2012 8:58:42 AM CST
@therawbeatsdotcom...yeah man...ya know I harshed on 2010 as a crap year...but then I pulled out my Best of 2010 list and...
by dogmatic
compared it to my recently compiled Best of 2011 list and realized that my 2010 list was a lot harder to compile with quite a few films pulled in and out of the top 10 b/c I liked them so much....but for 2011 it was hard to put together my 4-10 b/c I just didnt feel any of them would be top 10 in any other year...even 2010. I DID LOVE LOVE LOVE my top 3 though with WARRIOR at the top...a great, tight flick. HERE's hoping 2012 delivers!!! Gosh!
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He deserves the win. Him over Pitt and Clooney any fucking day.
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Jan 24, 2012 9:00:03 AM CST
They could only find 9 best pictures, when they can nominate 10???!!
by simpsonian
and this is what they chose? couldn't they at least throw a bone to something independent and edgy?
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I thought best picture (nomination) and best supporting actor (nomination) were guaranteed. I figured they might NOT win them, but they absolutely deserved them. In fact, people keep asking me "whats your favorite movie of 2011?" I say "Hands down, Drive". I will admit to seeing and really liking Moneyball and Midnight in Paris.But Drive WAS better than both,
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Like many others said, Drive is missing on the list. Load of political crap the Oscars and lots of weak run-of-the-mill stuff there.
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Jan 24, 2012 9:02:19 AM CST
@chiefroberts....AGREED on Zimmer...SCANDALOUS...though I prolly would have given it to Tron: Legacy if it had been nominated...MORE SCANDALOUS!
by dogmatic
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Crash and Shakespeare in Love didn't just get nominated, they WON. There's your answer (the Academy has a soft spot for crap and there's no accounting for taste).
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Jan 24, 2012 9:04:16 AM CST
thought there would be something for Melancholia (didn't see it myself, but heard good things...)
by simpsonian
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Jan 24, 2012 9:06:15 AM CST
Next Year already has 2 films that will blow all these out of the water...
by themovielover
We have a head to head battle between Spielberg's Lincoln and Tarantino's Django Unchained. I'm already looking forward to it.
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The best comparison I can think of was "Oscar Gold" from that American Dad episode. mugato5150's "DING's" are spot on.
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Last year featured a lot of deserving films (Black Swan, The Fighter, Social Network, 127 Hours all could've taken Picture and it would have been fine by me).
This year: BORRRINNNNGGG. May be the first time in years that I skip the show altogether.
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Jan 24, 2012 9:07:23 AM CST
#1 TRAVESTY of these nominations? No Best Pic nod for Pirates of the Carribean: On Stranger Tides
by dogmatic
SERIOUSLY??? Best film of the year hands down. Who's with me? Bueller? Bueller?
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Jan 24, 2012 9:08:15 AM CST
Crash had 76% (I didn't like it) Shakespeare in Love had 93% (I did like that one)
by beastie
60% is the mark that makes a movie good by RT standards. 48% doesn't even make the lowest mark for "good".
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Jan 24, 2012 9:08:58 AM CST
ultratron, animating a living creature with fur is 100x more difficult
by mugato5150
than a robot.
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Wow, I'm really suprised at the number of quality films that got the snub this year.
I thought Drive would be a lock for a cinematography nomination. It's a damn shame Albert Brooks didn't get a Best Supporting actor nod as well. His performance really shed a new light on him, and allowed early late 20 somethings like myself to really re-connect with him as an actor.
Also surprised that Nick Nolte didn't get any love for his performance in Warrior. It was a great movie, which was snubbed on the whole as well, but Nolte really was the heart of the film and really gave it the powerful emotional center is had. Damn shame.
Melancholia getting snubbed was a let down as well. This years Awards almost feels too predictable already. They just go to show that no matter what audiences like, Hollywood itself is still not ready to think or see outside the realm of convention. -
Jan 24, 2012 9:10:50 AM CST
HUGO is The Only Nominee Worthy Of Being Called "Best Picture"
by crow3711
And it won't win. And it wasn't even the best of year. It was terrific though.
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Marty should get the director nod. Woody best original screenplay. Either Tinker, Tailor...or Moneyball for best adapted screenplay. The rest...who cares?!?
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Jan 24, 2012 9:13:06 AM CST
2011 was the worst year for movies in decades. Fuck all worth watching except a handful of flicks.
by scatman666
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Jan 24, 2012 9:13:32 AM CST
If Ludovic Bource wins will he bury the Oscar with Bernard Herrmann?
by samuel fulmer
To get Kim Novak off his back?
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Jonah Hill is a one note actor - he is basically the SAME character in every film. The 5 minute scene in Deathly Hallows Part 2, where we see Snape's memories is Oscar worthy. And (this is my opinion) Bridesmaids is WAY overrated. The first 2 American Pie films had more heart and likable characters than that film. Melissa McCarty was the best thing about that film.
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TINKER TAILOR DIDNT GET NOMINATED FOR BEST PIC. BULLSHIT
Incredibly close did!?!?!?
what a fucking joke
gary oldmans gonna win hopefully
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Jan 24, 2012 9:14:21 AM CST
I would take Meeks Cutoff over almost anything on this list
by simpsonian
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...but I've never heard of Albert Nobbs. From the look of this TB, it seems likely that not many of you have either. Looks like Mrs. Doubtfire meets Remains of the Day? Not knocking it, but this was not on my radar whatsoever.
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Jan 24, 2012 9:15:35 AM CST
So forget RT, here's the real equation for Extremely Loud
by i am_notreal
Bullock + Hanks (2 Academy darlings) + 9/11 (big subject) + adorable moppet + lobbying = noms
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Jan 24, 2012 9:16:41 AM CST
My Picks: Clooney will win best actor, even though he's a cunt in a cunts film.
by scatman666
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Jan 24, 2012 9:17:28 AM CST
My Picks: Steep will win best actress, as she's an almighty cunt playing one of the greatest cunts who ever lived.
by scatman666
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Haven't seen any of the best pic noms. Don't plan on it either. Well, except maybe Hugo.
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Jan 24, 2012 9:18:36 AM CST
Tree of Life will win Fuck All, cept for cinematography, cause that's the only good thing about this snooze fest.
by scatman666
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Should be winning for cinematography every year. personally I'm pulling for bridesmaids and Jonah hill just to put myself at ease about never caring about the oscars ever again.
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First of all, Hill should never win anything ever for inflicting Allen Gregory on us. I suppose Harry Potter isn't a "serious" movie like the one about baseball. Fine, give it to Rickman retroactively for Die Hard.
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A movie that no one saw. Up against Avatar which everyone saw.
Up should have won though.
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Jan 24, 2012 9:21:15 AM CST
And THE ARTIST will eat up everything else cause Harvey Weinstein has bought out the entire academy.
by scatman666
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. . . surely they could do better than this list. And Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy was one of the most boring movies I've ever watched. Gary Oldman was great as always, but his character was never made likeable, interesting or even given much of a range of emotions. As great an actor as he is, he should not win for this.
And Woody Allen, also while very talented, should not be nominated for Midnight in Paris. It was a lovely little movie, and charming, but not what I'd consider best director worthy. -
Boy, this guy has a mighty pull with the academy that completely escapes me. Just listen to the audience scream for joy when his movie was announced for best picture! Bizarre...really bizarre.
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Unless people tune in just to see how Crystal does now that he's back I predict one of the lowest rated telecasts in Oscar history.
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Jan 24, 2012 9:24:15 AM CST
Boardwalk, Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones, leagues better than most of these films
by simpsonian
yeah it's not a fair comparison, but just sayin'
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Only once before: another Sandra Bullock movie, The Blind Side.
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Albert Brooks not getting a best supporting actor nod for Drive. Say what you want about the film being style over substance, etc., but he was a terrific villain in the film, realistic yet supremely menacing. Plus, doesn't the Academy usually love it when actors play against type?
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Seriously wow... Major snub for Drive on every level... Extremely got best picture nod?? WTF!! Tom Hanks has something to do with this. The only thing that made me happy about this was that Nolte got nominated for Warrior. Go War Horse, I guess...
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Could not agree more.
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You are easily duped as well.
Clooney's jism must taste good on a cold, winter morn. -
The rules were changed again this year, because Academy members seemed to think that b-movies like District 9 and Winter's Bone were tarnishing their reputation. Now there is only a minimum of 5 nominees, with a maximum of 10 (this year there are 9), but in order to be nominated you have to receive a certain number of first-place votes.
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Jan 24, 2012 9:30:40 AM CST
Guess I gotta check out 'Warrior'...heard nothing but good things
by therawbeatsdotcom
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...I'm pleasantly surprised that Demian Bichir landed a nomination for A Better Life. Other than that, this list kind of blows. Usually I have something positive to say about a handful of choice I think the Academy made right, but this time, nope, not really.
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Shit, if a 9-11 pandering film gets a nod and they have an extra spot. Why not a picture someone has actually seen that or Planet or fuck Bridesmaid or Harry for the lifetime achievement award as well. Shit, Captain America was pretty damn good. Get a movie people a rooting interest. I am the Artist will win mainly for having the word Art in it for those in the Academy with their head up their ass.
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Jan 24, 2012 9:38:57 AM CST
The only reason I'd even watch it is to see if Albert Brooks actually won an Oscar. He's not even nominated, so who cares.
by azultool
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Boardwalk and Breaking Bad particularly (just not a huge fan of Thrones while acknowledging it is VERY well made).
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And Christopher Plummer is the biggest lock of the evening. Playing a dying old gay guy coming out of the closet...c'mon, that is the most PC awards bait ever.
Gary Oldman deserves the award, but won't win. Clooney will win for playing Clooney. -
He makes Brad Pitt look like an extra on That's So Raven with his performance in Take Shelter. If Gary Oldman doesn't win this now it'll be a damn travesty.
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over Jonah Hill, of all people.
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kudos to the sound team, should have been nominated for overall sound too (or mixing as they call it now).
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Yawn.
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Gripe, gripe, gripe. It's a lackluster year for sure but don't be a bitch. You've never sounded less professional.
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Good motion capture and facial animation, horrible rendering of the creatures. They looked absolutely fake because of it. No way it should win.
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Jan 24, 2012 9:51:19 AM CST
Drive was kinda "meh". If you don't think any of these are best picture worthy, I don't see how Drive IS?
by darth saruman
it felt like a pretentious student film to me. 20 minutes of actual movie....an hour of "style".
I think if you are intoxicated whilst watching, DRIVE may be cool....but those days have come and gone for this ol' S.O.B. -
I never understood Clooney's rise to fame. He seems to play "George Clooney" in just about every movie he's in. He's been fine in a couple of movies, but I think he just knows how to "work" the Hollywood game.
If you're a fan, great.
Just not my cup of tea. -
much better choice for original screenplay than bridesmaids
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Jan 24, 2012 9:52:26 AM CST
btw scott_baiowulfgang_amadeus is the best name I've seen on this site...well done sir!
by darth saruman
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Despite some questionable nominations and snubs in the animated feature category, my biggest concern was that Pixar would get an automatic bid for Cars 2 despite the film being horrible. Thankfully the Academy had enough sense to realize that past excellence does not entitle Pixar to a reserved spot in this category.
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I'll wait while y'all ponder that one.....
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Animating a transformer and a gorilla workflow:
At ILM the animators have animation tools that allow the animator to 'break-apart' and animate any area of the transformer model. Each transformer transformation animation is handled by the respective animator assigned to each shot. Every transformation is a unique peice of digital art created by the animator. It's probably the closest we've seen to traditional animation in a blockbuster movie. Usually the model is signed off and you see that model doing it's thing. With transformers you have animators allowed to finess and create a visual language for each robot that is unique to each animator when they sit down and hammer out the transformations.
At Weta the animators study gorillas, chimpanzees and orangoutangs and try to make their digital versions do exactly what the real thing does. In the case of Ceaser you have a kind of human/ape so his animation was representative of his intellect. In terms of modeling I can tell you from having worked on both films that I can shit out an ape sculpt much faster than a transformer. Transformers start as kit bashed representations from the designer. Then the modelers replace and model out whatever is needed. They are designed over several times in some cases. The lighting on transformers takes the longest. There is so much onscreen in trasnformers that most of the shots are handled cheaply overseas. America cannot support the visuals onscreen in transformers. Another reason to celebrate it as one of the last times you will see a movie at that scale. It takes toy money for that thesedays.
So in closing: both are hard as fuck. There's
actual art happening in both films. If 2011 is to remembered for anything outstanding it's the
effects work in these 2 films.
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Jan 24, 2012 9:57:36 AM CST
i think STRANGE BREW should get Belated Best Picture...eh?
by darth saruman
...hosers.
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But I guess the academy doesn't care about quality hand drawn animation anymore unless it's subtitled.
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I actually liked that one. Probably Spielberg's best film since Catch Me If You Can. Good use of 3-D, and fun/exciting action scenes that you can actually tell what's going on.
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Snoogins!
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Should have been nominated in all possible categories. I would have also liked to have seen The Muppets, Harry be damned, in more categories.
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Easily better than Hugo. The Artist was really good, too. Hope it wins out of those nominees, most of which were either mediocre or I didn’t see them because they looked mediocre.
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My 2nd favourite film of last year. Senna is nowhere.
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Jan 24, 2012 10:19:23 AM CST
Yes, WINNIE THE POOH should have been nominated, but...
by derlanghaarige
...it was barely an hour long. I guess that's what kept them from nominating it.
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I'm not sayin'.
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Jan 24, 2012 10:25:25 AM CST
Drive seemed to turn off many older viewers for some reason...
by prof. pop-cult
A lot of young guys I know loved it, but older men did not. If you've seen the movie, you might understand -- the Academy members (most of who still consist of old males) may have found discomfort with the plot, which deals with a young guy going up against a bunch of pathetic old men in the twilight of their lives. Frankly, it kind of got to me on a personal level too as I myself am not that young anymore. :\
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Hasn't seen Moneyball. Just posing on here and shitting on Pitt cuz his dick is bigger and he's banging the milf of milfs and not the fat floured hole that they are stuck with for life. FACT
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Brad still isn't going to fuck you.
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Hollywood loves shit like Beginners
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...only if you don't actually know anything about editing. Beautifully, perfectly deserved honor. One of my favorite of all the nominations.
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Jan 24, 2012 10:36:46 AM CST
So, we're all agreed that the Director noms are the 'actual' Picture noms, right?
by blackwood
I like how Hollywood thinks it can trick people. Silly, silly Hollywood.
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Don't say that man. Can't handle more disappointment. It could still happen.
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Their work on 'Dragon Tattoo' is even better than the 'Social Network' score, and where the holy fuck is the love for Drive???
Fuck the Oscars, fuck hollywood and fuck Clooney...
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Jan 24, 2012 10:41:07 AM CST
Upon further review, FAR weaker crop of pictures than 2 years ago
by i am_notreal
Even if you hated Hurt Locker's win there was still: Avatar, Basterds, Up, District 9...
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I'm shocked at the amount of nominations the descendants has. It was ok. George was good. It was extremely slow and ever single hospital scene was tedious and not really that funny. Shame and Drive being excluded is a fucking joke!!!!!!!! Drive at least for best director and actor. Shame for everything but most of all acting. Both actors. Some of the best performances I've ever and I mean ever seen. No doubt. If you the money to advertise your movie your in, if not your out.
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I don't think it'll win because of this backlash that is brewing (as evidenced by Beaks' comments). Oscar also likes successful movies that make voters feel good about themselves (The Help) or movie stars emoting (The Descendents, which I liked). People are criticizing The Artist because it's not heavy on the drama but I say, it doesn't matter, the movie is still has bigger themes. It's not Oscar bait as some have contended because of the reason above and also, who in their right mind would make a silent movie in 2011? I think it is pretty awesome in that regard.
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Oscar definition for Animated Feature: "An animated feature film is defined as a motion picture with a running time of more than 40 minutes, in which movement and characters’ performances are created using a frame-by-frame technique. Motion capture by itself is not an animation technique. In addition, a significant number of the major characters must be animated, and animation must figure in no less than 75 percent of the picture’s running time."
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deserved to be nominated for best sound/ sound editing AND Editing...IMO
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Jan 24, 2012 10:52:24 AM CST
What a horrible field, even by typical (low) standards
by truxton spanglers cereal cabal
A few rules for Oscar nominations:
1) veteran favorites, often the consolation "let us make it up to you award," since we blew it and you didn't win for your truly deserving work last time prize
2) some wannabe "deep," pandering, and pretentious film (i.e.-Crash, but 9/11 is more current fodder)
3) actresses who de-glamorize themselves for a role (Close, Berry, Theron, etc.)
4) whatever good, but not great film the Weinstein lobbyist machine successfully campaigns for, but few have seen.
Brooks? Senna?
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Jan 24, 2012 10:54:47 AM CST
Once again the academy displays it's continuing irrelevance.
by gabba-uk
There are some worthy nominees to be sure but the Oscars have long since been a pointer to quality and more to internal Hollywood politics. And the ceremony itself is so tiresome now I wouldn't choose to watch it. I can be accused of being biased but the BAFTA's seem to have a better voting record to me and Stephen Fry is back presenting them so watching them is a no brainer.
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Seriously, why is that guy so flippin famous? Sure, he used to be good looking, but so what? He plays the same damn "endearing, funny, handsome old guy" in every damn movie. What does he do that a million other actors do not?
Also, this whole list is a fucking joke. Obviously, politics have completely taken over the academy. No Drive??? Really?????
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The Artist was a very good film, a deserving nominee, but Hugo is a far more complex (even for a relatively simple family-type film) and sumptuous approach to 'films about filmmakers.' The Artist did indeed feel too 'slight and likable' to take the crown here. This is Scorsese's year to triumph. Picture, director, art direction, cinematography; these are all Hugo's to lose.
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No Albert Brooks?This is just stupid, nominating extremely loud and incredibly close is fucking laughable.
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Jan 24, 2012 11:05:39 AM CST
Our annual orgy of pampered pigs wallowing in their own ostentatious pool of shit.
by azultool
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and I don't even particularly like HP. I saw maybe three of the films. They're goofy and sort of convoluted but I imagine the books on which they are based were as well. But I do recognize that they're very well made and there's a lot of talent involved in them.
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But there's that vampire badguy/but goodguy dude in one and the Twilight no shirt werewolf in the other. Are there no females on this Academy board???
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but there were 11 or 12 movies I liked better. It will probably win because it's about Hollywood and moviemaking--but so is Hugo...So maybe the vote will split and The Descendants gets the upset.
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Jan 24, 2012 11:14:44 AM CST
You know, there was a certain AICN staffer who said EXTREMELY LOUD...
by ricarleite4
... AND Max Von Sydow would NEVER, EVER get a nomination.
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The Academy is a club of people who pick amongst their peers. it doesn't matter beyond that really.
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Jan 24, 2012 11:18:11 AM CST
what an obvious, pandering, token nomination The Help is...
by simpsonian
it may be a fine film (I didn't see it), but geez, so fucking obvious
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Jan 24, 2012 11:19:13 AM CST
Anyone know if the makers of Drive even put out an ad or two?
by proevad
Would explain a lot.
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Jan 24, 2012 11:24:28 AM CST
Yawn. That Artist has this all wrapped up. Boring. Way to snub Tintin creeps!
by darthvadersbadside
No Tintin nom? The Academy sucks. As for people complaining no Cars 2. Did you actually watch that movie? The first one was good, nothing spectacular. But this, man, what a bunch of ass this movie was. Just because it's Pixar doesn't mean it automagically gets nominated. I still don't know why anyone thinks Rat-a-phooey and UP-yours ever got nominated. Both those movies had an interesting premise, but cocked it up so royally in the execution. Rat-a-phooey being the worst. I don't blame Brad Bird tho. He did the best with what he got dumped on him with it already into production and all. Rango for the win on this. Go ILM!
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What movies are you people watching?
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Jan 24, 2012 11:27:36 AM CST
this on the back of SOPA; fuck you MPAA; please no one watch this broadcast!
by simpsonian
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THE ARTIST is a well-made trinket of a film that will be forgotten in a year, and THE HELP is a shiny, pandering studio bauble that will also be forgotten in a year.
I can see a picture/director split, too. Hossenfeffer could take best director for THE ARTIST, while THE HELP could win best picture on the strength of the actors branch. -
Cars 2 was easily Pixar's worst film...by a long shot. It was even worse then a lot of Dreamworks animated features I've seen in the last few years. It was the first Pixar movie that I was bored with. It was just awful. Way too much Larry the Cable Guy. He was good as a bit player in Cars, not as a main character.
Tintin was robbed though. I'm surprised it was not nominated. That was a wonderful flick and I'm hoping they make the sequel with Peter Jackson at the helm. -
It was expanded to include such audience favorites as THE DARK KNIGHT and UP, but those movies rarely have a chance to win anyway, so who gives a shit?
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PUSS IN BOOTS and KUNG FU PANDA 2 over Spielberg doing an animated riff on Indy? What the fuck?
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Talk about debris floating in on the wave that is Moneyball. I agree that seeing this clown's sneering face at the Golden Globes was disheartening but I suspect Hill's days as an actor are numbered.
First of all The Sitter tanked and then Allen Gregory was cancelled. Hill's nomination is a desperate attempt to draw some youth interest to such a staid tradition, but this perception in Hollywood that Hill is some kind of Generation Y hero must surely be abating by now.
He has zero chance of winning in his category. And when 21 Jump Street flops later this year, Hill will be back flipping burgers where he belongs.
I assure you that I will not pay one red cent to see anything with Hill's name attached to it, and I implore all of you to do the same. Let's send this kid straight to Hasbeenville where he belongs.
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At the very least Woody will win another screenplay award.
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Jan 24, 2012 11:38:12 AM CST
The only best picture nominee I've seen so far is Tree Of Life and I didn't like it
by jackslater4
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Criminal.
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Jan 24, 2012 11:42:23 AM CST
That Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close could be nominated for Best Picture
by m6y
is all the evidence you need of how f'd up AMPAS is.
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Jan 24, 2012 11:42:26 AM CST
A CAT IN PARIS CHICO AND RITA KUNG FU PANDA 2 PUSS IN BOOTS <-- no tin tin
by awepittance
a travesty honestly
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Jan 24, 2012 11:42:54 AM CST
And it's a good thing Tree Of Life didn't get nominated for effects
by jackslater4
The Dinosaurs were barely above Discovery Channel/Terra Nova style.
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Not really anything special, but he did okay work. You know how it is, get known for doing comedies, and then do a servicible dramatic turn, and you'll get a nomination unless your name is Jim Carey.
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Jan 24, 2012 11:47:55 AM CST
Did anyone seriously expect the blood-drenched Drive to be nominated for Best Picture?
by m6y
What's the average age of the academy, 97? There wasn't a hope in hell of that happening.
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Jan 24, 2012 11:48:03 AM CST
Anyone recall when Knowles "scooped" the winners????
by canned_dirty_ape
Yeah, that was a highly accurate and ethical bit of work by Headretard.
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Jan 24, 2012 11:48:32 AM CST
re: "Bridesmaids for best Screenplay? Really? First off, the movie has a ton of improv in it. How can you nominate it for best screenplay? "
by big jim
Same way Borat got a Best Adapted Screenplay (and The Prestige didn't).
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That 90% of the footage shot for The Phantom Menace was blurry and ruined.
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Not like that feel good romantic comedy Silence of the Lambs. Granted that was 20 years ago but we also had Gladiator, the Departed and the Hurt Locker.
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Jan 24, 2012 11:52:07 AM CST
Captain America's "Star-Spangled Man" song ignored? Seriously?
by daytripper69
That number was one of the best things about the movie. I was pretty sure it would get nominated for Best Song. Damn pity!
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Jan 24, 2012 11:52:37 AM CST
I also feel Transformers will be robbed of the effects oscar so they can give Serkis a consolation prize
by jackslater4
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Jan 24, 2012 11:53:05 AM CST
I hope they don't do the same with sound and give it to Drive
by jackslater4
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Jan 24, 2012 11:53:43 AM CST
Transformers should definitely win effects and sound, Drive should have been picture, director and adapted screenplay
by jackslater4
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Much like Hill's acting in Moneyball, servicable, but nothing great. I guess the fact that it was a genre that usually revolves around men somehow made it worth nominating.
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Jan 24, 2012 11:54:45 AM CST
I feel like Tom Hanks has stolen from Drive like he did Pulp Fiction, but worse
by jackslater4
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Jan 24, 2012 11:56:02 AM CST
In this A SERBIAN FILM age we live in, I think it would be great if THE ARTIST won best pic
by moosemalloy
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Jan 24, 2012 11:56:10 AM CST
A SEPARATION was the first time in ages I walked out of a film and thought *that was a masterpiece*. At the least, it was better than anything Hollywood produced last year.
by justmyluck
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Jan 24, 2012 11:56:34 AM CST
And Reznor got fucked but so did Chemical Brothers for Hanna
by jackslater4
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Some years voters choose based on actual preference. Other years they push an agenda on the public. This years agenda is 3D. HUGO will win.
With HUGO being the best use of 3D to date. How can they not push this? They want butts in seats at $15 a ticket.
But that's fine by me. The movie is also brilliant and deserving of the Oscar.
Too bad for PIXAR. I think CARS2 is their first ever snub. Hope they get the message. -
Jan 24, 2012 12:03:31 PM CST
Re: TINTIN, being overwhelmingly mo-cap may not have helped its chances. Before pointing at RANGO, remember it used *reference footage*.
by justmyluck
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Jan 24, 2012 12:05:11 PM CST
Films that generally don't appeal to general audiences or film snobs
by samuel fulmer
Get luck getting viewers.
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We liked you once but now that time has passed we can't figure out why we ever did.
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If Jonah Hill deserves one for Moneyball, surely Oswalt should've gotten a nod for Young Adult. Also, what about Serkis for ROTPOTA? Seems like they kind of fucked up the best supp. actor category this year.
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Wait, why is 9/11: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! (aka Extremely Lame and Incredibly Maudlin) up there? Hasn't it been panned by just about everyone?
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Jan 24, 2012 12:15:36 PM CST
@mugato5150 Your very spare (and amusing) list proves the point...
by m6y
AMPAS rarely nominates (much less chooses as a winner) best films that are soaked in blood. War films and historical films are the exceptions.
It is pretty rare for bloody genre films like Drive to ever get nominated or win, and exceptions like Silence of the Lambs, The Departed and Pulp Fiction prove the rule.
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Jan 24, 2012 12:22:38 PM CST
I walked out of Bridesmaids thinking I must have fallen asleep
by i am_notreal
Because every review was talking up Melissa McCarthy and except for the scene on the airplane (best part of the film) it seemed to me like she was hardly in it.
Rose Byrne had a more important supporting role. McCarthy was basically background color. But her nomination is one of those preordained things that happens with Oscars quite often. Enough buzz builds up around a movie or performance and the nominations come through, whether or not they are truly merited. -
works out to a coup for Fincher, wringing a major nomination out of what is generally regarded as a disappointment, and pre-marketing the sequels.
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I'm one of the people who happens to think it's mostly style over substance. The people who are ranting right now that "old" Hollywood just can't handle a violent badass movie, did it ever occur to you that that's really the only reason you like in the first place? But it makes you think and stuff, about... not being the person you feel like you really are, and making a connection with another human being over cheesy music in the car, and... killing everybody and leaving town. Deep.
That said it IS better than some of the crap that made the list, and a Supporting Actor (Brooks) and Director (Winding Refn) nomination wouldn't have been unreasonable. -
Preaty bloody.
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Disagree about scaling back the nominees. In my opinion making the Best Picture category 10-deep was one of the few good things the Academy has done (apparently they don't agree). But look at it this way: although there are still deserving films that get snubbed, with a list that big you're going to run out of Oscar-bait films eventually and have to start thinking outside of the box. Whereas with five there's no chance a good genre picture is going to make the final cut if that leaves Kate Winslet Plays A Nazi on the outside looking in.
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Agreed completely. "Extremely..." gets a nom for best film but not "Warrior"? Not "Drive"?--fuck, even the final "Harry Potte" film was more deserving than that maudlin , manipulative piece of shit.
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...this year. He just copied an already excellent movie, why should he get a nomination?
What I can't understand is how Drive didn't get on that list. Yet a fiasco like the Tree of Life gets the academy drooling.
Obviously, there's nothing to see at the Oscars this year. Good to know before I waste my time. -
I am only watching to see that song win. Everything else, FAIL, Hollywood, FAIL. Why do we keep giving you money every year? I don't know? Hey, we elected Obama.
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Jan 24, 2012 12:39:06 PM CST
I already know the front runner for Oscars 2013. STAR WARS EPISODE I: THE PHANTOM MENACE A 3D EXPERIENCE. shoo-in
by azultool
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After a few years of seeing their favorite movies lose out to whatever middlebrow banality Harvey Weinstein sells as art house cinema to your grandma, they're going to tune out anyway.
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Jan 24, 2012 12:42:40 PM CST
Drive, Warrior, and Take Shelter should be on that damned list somewhere.
by delagoya
Along with Albert Brooks, Nick Nolte, and Michael Shannon.
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Jan 24, 2012 12:43:08 PM CST
So, I can make the shittiest movie ever made. But, as long as it is about 911, it will be nominated for Best Pic?
by azultool
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Jan 24, 2012 12:44:50 PM CST
Fargo, Fatal Attraction, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Jaws, Godfather, Goodfellas, Exorcist, Deliverance, Clockwork Orange
by bah
Blood and action aren't as rare as people are making it out to be
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Funny now my friends say if a movie gets great reviews be careful it could end up being one of those slow uninteresting films.
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I don't think either World Trade Center or United 93 were nominated for best picture.
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Nolte was nominated for Best Supporting Actor for "Warrior"--well deserved, but Plummer is a shoo in.
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I didn't know they did the soundtrack on that film as I was watching it but was thinking how great it was.
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Jan 24, 2012 12:48:37 PM CST
Maybe during this years Oscars someone should host on-line
by samuel fulmer
So kind of retro-active Oscars show, and also bring up best pictures from years past that are now remembered as embarassments.
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Derp.
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and still better than almost every film that came out in 2011.
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I know you probably took a while to write that condescending post, but I liked the film for none of the reasons you delineated. I thought it was beautifully acted, directed, and filmed. The music was also far from cheesy, it felt as though it was a character in the film itself. Additionally, if the violence of the film was its main focus, then there would have been a whole lot more of it (or action of any kind for that matter).
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Jan 24, 2012 12:53:16 PM CST
OMG I can't believe it. Jonah Fucking Hill?! Really???
by tikidonkeypunch
I think I'll not watch this year and protest this lousy fucking selection of films.
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One of the finest documentaries I have ever seen, Christ, I would push it for best film, never mind best doc.
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The Oscars are largely a bought award, like the Golden Globes, but with a higher price tag.
Still..I will enjoy reading you fuckers talk about them...much more entertaining and honest than the actual show. -
Jan 24, 2012 12:55:53 PM CST
By the way...Neeson conforms he was on set for Dark Knight Rises
by conspiracy
Claims he was only there an hour...but thats horseshit and we all know it, too that Professional fucker a hour just to get his nut off as per the contract.
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I walked out of Bridesmaids thinking the same thing, only about pretty much the entire supporting roster. For a movie called Bridesmaids, they sure didn't give anyone other than the two Maid of Honor chicks much to do.
I am more curious how McCarthy's performance was worthy of a nomination, but Galifinakas' performance in The Hangover was not. He stole that entire frigging movie. The Academy is so strange when it comes to comedy. I guess you have to be either Jack Nicholson or the bubbly fat girl to get recognition in a comedic role. -
Jan 24, 2012 12:56:55 PM CST
If you think Fincher "copied" the Swedish version
by seymourscagnettisbruisedego
then maybe you should actually watch it.
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I guess they couldn't decide who to nominate, the cowboys or the aliens.
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Jan 24, 2012 12:57:33 PM CST
At least Eddie Murphy kinda stoked up my curiosity. Fuck Billy Chrystal.
by azultool
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Glenn Close IS Albert Nobbs.
I don't know if i'd nob Glenn Clos. Not even in her FATAL ATTRACTION days.
Like screwing the Borg queen. -
I'm not going to Google myself to death but there are plenty others that were just nominated that were also bloody.
The fact is, most blood soaked movies that aren't about history or war *don't* deserve to get nominated. This is one case where I don't think the Oscars are prejudiced. -
Jan 24, 2012 1:05:51 PM CST
cobra--kai...Yeah..I'd jump on the grenade and rail Glenn...
by conspiracy
just to get the tip at the end of it...I hear she is generous.
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And made about 40 million. Not Knocked Up numbers, but that's a preaty good profit.
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Jan 24, 2012 1:09:18 PM CST
samuel fulmer ...C&A effects guys should have gotten something..
by conspiracy
after all they managed to CGI out Olivia's rock hard nips when she came out of the water wearing what moments before was a sheer dress.
Talk about a lost opportunity...
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...to me he didn't add all that much either though. It looked prettier and had a better score. But all the other stuff was either the same or superior in the swedish version, if you ask me. Also Rooney Mara was alright, but not a patch on Noomi Rapace's version of the character. So on that foot, the Mara nomination is the most baffling one to me(even more so than Jonah Hill's).
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The right desicion was made to not nominate it for best picture, or any acting awards. It was good but ultimately shallow IMO.
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not typically the kind of thing AMPAS members (who are far older than the average moviegoer) are into. I know, because I know some of these old-timers. They just didn't get Drive. I could tell there was no way it would be nominated.
For the record, IMHO the first half of Drive was gold. The second half... wasn't. Although there's much I liked about the film, I don't think it was deserving of a best picture nomination. But goddamn, neither was Extremely Loud, The Help or War Horse. -
Jan 24, 2012 1:15:24 PM CST
It would be cool to see Drive clean up on MTV, but nothing has a chance as long as twilights around
by jackslater4
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Jan 24, 2012 1:23:00 PM CST
The lack of an Elle Fanning supporting nomination for Super 8 is a sure sign of the apocalypse
by choppah
It's happening.
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He should have got a Best Supporting Actor nod
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Better actress than her sister actually.
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I love Brooks and heard how great he was in Drive but I don't remember anything remarkable or even menacing about his peformance. I should see it again I guess.
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Hollywood will never change and do something different. Glenn Close and Meryl Streep? Terrible, neither better win. No Drive? Fuck that! At least Nolte got some recognition for "Warrior." Proud of my boy Malick but know he'll get nothing once again, the Golden Palm was his prize. As for everything else "Stop the ship! You GUTLESS SON OF A BITCH!"
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Titanic and The English Patient are just two examples of their utter pointlessness
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Look...if you are a woman working in Hollywood there are two ways to guarantee an Oscar nomination.
1. Blow Woody Allen...but only if you are in your 20's; Woody likes um fresh.
2. Do a rape scene.
I also think the Academy is giving Mara a little bump because after all the woman DID pierce her Nips for the role... -
Jan 24, 2012 1:29:26 PM CST
Would love Oldman to win just so he gets more juicy leading parts
by l. ron bumquist
but generally I couldn't give a fuck about awards.
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Jan 24, 2012 1:29:28 PM CST
I agree Albert Brooks didn't blow be away in Drive like he did some
by jackslater4
even Coach Taylor in Super 8 stuck with me more, but really Nolte nailed it.
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Jan 24, 2012 1:29:30 PM CST
The first scene in Drive should be nominated for best picture.
by slone13
I'll second that
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Jonah's Dad is a big time accountant to many of the Hollywood elite. There will be pressure to vote for him in the community because of his Dad's reach. Don't be shocked if he walks away with the Oscar even if he does not deserve it. Scott Rudin is also pushing hard for him to get the Oscar. These votes are rarely about best performances and more about external reasons to vote for these people. I don't think many in the Academy ever vote their conscience but instead vote to people they like have loyalty towards. It's why debating Oscar wins is for morons when the people picking the awards vote out of loyalty/friendship and not out of actual judgment of what they thought was best.
As for Bridesmaids getting a screenplay nomination, that is less about the actual writing and more about capturing the moment of a R rated comedy featuring "girls". No writer in the academy will vote for that script in the end unless they hate themselves and the art of writing.
That said, Mellissa McCarthy probably will win. That will be a token vote for overweight women in film. Somewhere Cameron Manheim consoles herself in a bowl of Ben & Jerry's.
Don't get worked up about what gets nominated and what wins. It never has to do with what is best.
I mean, which movie have you watched more in the past year; The Kings Speech or The Social Network?
I rest my case. Kings Speech wins because of Weinstein and his influence in the industry. Social Network gets punished because everyone in Hollywood hates Fincher even though they can't clean his jock. -
well-liked by the academy. When Fincher got all touchy-feely with Benjamin Button, THEN the academy was into it (as usual).
Fincher is seriously overrated anyway. -
What's up Mr. Monk?
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which is ok i guess. I have much more important things in my life at this moment then a stupid awards show.
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Look, Button was a pile of shit, I admit that, but his early works and now "The Social Network" and less worthy "Dragon Tattoo," Fincher is just getting going. He's in NO way overrated. But he got fucked by the Academy last year, "King's Speech" was solid, but it wasn't "The Social Network." I hate the Oscars.
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I know you felt like you needed an awkwardly condescending opening sentence about my condescending post, but no, it took me less than five minutes, thanks.
You may have liked Drive because of how beautiful and meaningful it was, but the bottom line is my response was addressed to the people in this very article who are saying that the old-timers at the Academy couldn't stomach or "get" it (you know, because they're so old and out of touch). It's not like I'm beating up on an imaginary audience here. Just because you only go into attack mode when somebody dares to insult Drive doesn't mean there haven't been plenty of stupid comments by people who liked it. And yes, I agree that the movie was extremely well-directed, but that doesn't mean it should win Best Picture. -
But Alien3? Just a travesty.
The Game? Panic Room? And I'll be silent about my opinion about Fight Club and Se7en.
He leaves me cold.
But if he ever makes Rendezvous with Rama he'll be my hero. -
Jan 24, 2012 1:46:16 PM CST
which movie have you watched more in the past year; The Kings Speech or The Social Network
by samuel fulmer
I saw both once, and don't feel the need to revisit them. I thought both were good, they aren't the type of films that lend themselves to repeat viewings.
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Jan 24, 2012 1:46:21 PM CST
Picking and debating the Oscars is a fun parlor game, nothing more.
by choppah
It's an awards show for the industry and by the industry.
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Because the critics sure don't agree with these nominations based on their scores.
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Terrible movie where the characters were all bland as hell. And I'm glad to see the Academy not giving a motion capture film credit as an animated film. There is justice!!
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Jan 24, 2012 1:49:44 PM CST
Hey guys, I know how we can win some Oscars!!!!
by melgibsoncalledmethenword
OK here's the story...
A one-legged vietnam veteran that's crazy from agent orange gets captured and put into a Nazi concentration camp. he has to eat his own shit and gets raped by the guards and then Jude Law saves him. 5 years later he's working at the World Trade Center and 2 planes crash into it. It just so happens that it occurs on bring your son to work day. OMG!
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FUCK THE OSCARS
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It was a big, sweeping romantic epic, but not the kind Hollywood generally makes, at least these days. There was an honest sadness deep in its heart.
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Oscars are for the industry and by the industry.
If you think of a Venn diagram with Oscar nominations/awards in one bubble and good films in another, the intersection area is very small. -
You mean we needed some ten minute scene where we find out that Tintin became a reporter after being shocked finding his dad in a bordello with a dwarf prostitute. Or maybe he could've had some kind of physical disability, or maybe taked with a Capote-esque lisp.
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Members of the Academy. There are about 5,000-plus, mostly actors.
Everyone gets to vote on nominations for best picture, but the individual branches get to nominate for specific categories. For instance, actors nominate the acting awards, directors the director award, editors the editing award, etc. -
Jan 24, 2012 1:56:36 PM CST
Now Jonah Hill get nominated over Albert Brooks is beyond fucking me
by dharma4
-Namaste-
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. . . whatsername from Bridesmaids nominated.
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I seriously can't think of a worse overall list than this year's list of nominees.
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also no dragon tatto for best score? the music was much better there than in tinker, tailor
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Michael Fassbender for Shame, Mark Strong for Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, Dominic Cooper for The Devils Double.
That said, I do so hope Gary Oldman wins the Oscar for Best Actor, and not just because he deserves it - when he goes up, I want him to say "I want to thank everyone......." - and when Billy Crystal questions "everyone?" Gary responds "EEEEVVVVVVVVEEEERRRRRYYYOOOOONNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEE!!!!!!!?!". That would so make my day!! -
Jan 24, 2012 2:31:39 PM CST
This year is pretty bad, but I'll nominate 1984 as a year with really undistinguished best picture nominees that don't hold up well to scrutiny...
by m6y
Amadeus
The Killing Fields
A Passage to India
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That is all.
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Tom Hardy should've been nominated. Had Meryl Streep played his character, she would've gotten the nod. I hate the Oscars!!!
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Saw Hugo and, yes, there were notable moments, but overall it was strung out and embellished. 7pm tonight I'm doing "Beyond the Red Carpet", AO Scott's live Q&A webcast discussing noms - www.nytimesknownow.com - and, yes, will also ask about Warrior :)
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Jan 24, 2012 2:37:08 PM CST
I didn't get why peole were blown away by Brooks in drive either, he's probably like that in real life. I like him generally, but he is not funny on twitter, nottatall
by wattos new hat
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Jan 24, 2012 2:37:45 PM CST
If Jonah Hill wins he automatically becomes the new Marisa Tomei...
by has_snyder_been_fired_from_superman_yet
...and spends the rest of his career as the butt of "Oscar wtf" jokes.
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Not likely.
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George is being accused of winning a lot of Oscars, but if you do your research, he only won one Oscar for "Best Supporting Role" for his movie, "Syriana". That was it. His good looks in movies maybe getting old, yes, but the man has talent in acting, you can't deny that.
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He becomes a perfectly toned milf who looks fantastic naked?
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I will be seriously annoyed if they give Best Picture to The Artist and Best Actor to "the guy" in that film. Seriously.
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Jan 24, 2012 2:43:04 PM CST
I've seen nearly every film nominated in every category and Warrior was NOT the best film of the year
by jaka
Its good, and I really liked it. But it was by no means the BEST film I saw this year.
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Fincher isn't overrated, but Ben Button wasn't a very good film on a story level--I don't think anyone can fault it's technical wizardry tho.
I thought it was a boring Forest Gump. Didn't like it at all. Being such a huge fan of the director, I honestly can't recall being more disappointed after watching a movie. (The Phantom Menace is on a whole other level of disappointment) -
is wrong -- as he is by calling Benjamin Button a masterpiece -- who does the chop?
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Mel should have gotten a nod for the Beaver, it was a great movie and his best performance.
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When I first saw it, I didn't think much of it. Watched it recently and was totally immersed in it.
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cunt.
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Might want to read my post again. Sound out the words. Especially the final word. Take it real slow, I know reading is difficult beyond four letter words, and "sadly" contains all of five letters to trip you up.
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Jan 24, 2012 2:49:27 PM CST
Let's not get too worked up masturbating over George Clooney here.
by m6y
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I don't know what that dude is smoking. Clooney is an amazing talent.
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was Violante Placido.
I was sad to see she's starring in Ghost Rider 2. She can act and she's gorgeous, and that's all she gets? Blah. -
which sticks because it certainly was the best movie i saw this year. Though I also loved The Artist.
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Jonah Hill's dad is a big shot Hollywood accountant? But he's Jewish! Did he break the glass ceiling?
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Tintin
Rio
Brooks
Fassbender
Swinton
the gal from The Descendants
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Jan 24, 2012 3:00:07 PM CST
Clooney and i really hope he finally gets his oscar this time.
by killik
And he probably will.
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Fincher is a great director. Fight Club was a masterpiece. No, everything he's done wasn't gold but even Spielberg made Hook. Even Hitchcock made Family Plot.
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Jan 24, 2012 3:04:22 PM CST
You know what's more boring than watching fucking baseball?
by wrath_of_fett
Watching people sit in a room and talk about trading baseball players for 2 fucking hours!
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I won't say it was boring exactly, just kind of the same old, same old. I feel like I've seen it all before. And man oh MAN did they milk that stupid shit pie joke! Just when you thought it had been squeezed dry they brought the shit up again! Literally!
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Bassinger, on the other hand should never have been nominated let alone won.
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Jan 24, 2012 3:07:41 PM CST
Albert Brooks in real life stabs people in the eye with a fork?!
by tallboy6t6
Jesus, remind me to stay on his good side.
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Jan 24, 2012 3:08:23 PM CST
nightvip, good point! Fassbender had a fucking mesmerizing performance this year.
by wrath_of_fett
Was he nominated for Inglorious Basterds? Because he was excellent in that too.
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Jan 24, 2012 3:08:56 PM CST
I can't quite believe people can bring themselves to hate on The Artist.
by tallboy6t6
C'mon, the flick is just downright wholesome. And different as in "that type of movie hasn't been made in almost 100 years" type of different. It'd be like kicking a puppy. Hell, literally!
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Jan 24, 2012 3:10:45 PM CST
So what exactly is the frontrunner for winning best pic?
by halfbreedqueen2
The Help? I mean, The Artist is too "little" and foreign to win best pic. The Tree of Life is too abstract (excuse me, "artsy"), Hugo didn't make enough $$$ and big budget movies that aren't massive successes NEVER ever ever win best pic.
So what do we have? Midnight in Paris, maybe a win for Woody Allen? No, I don't see it. So it's The Help (big $$$ maker) vs. The Descendants, which is the typical Oscar "bait" type of film.
I don't know. Hugo and The Tree of Life were my favorites in a very weak year, and next would probably be Rise of the Planet of the Apes, and that's the only real snub to me, it at least deserved a best actor nom (and win) for Serkis and maybe even a best pic nom despite a sometimes very weak screenplay when it comes to secondary characters.
Otherwise, I always find it hard to even have mock outrage at an opinion industry based award show in a weak year. Drive was good but not AMAZING so I don't count that in my "OMG BUT DRIVE!" rant. -
Wow... it's the worst edited Fincher film I've seen. Though that very, very quick style was perfect for The Social Network, it felt forced in GWTDT and broke up the mood and atmosphere, especially since the film did slow it down as it went on, when in fact it should have been the opposite way. And usually Fincher's stuff is so amazingly cut together.
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I'm a lover of Moneyball but Hill shouldn't have been nominated.
Also, I thought Cranston was just as good in Drive as Brooks was--so I consider him fucked too--along with the last Potter and Drive itself.
Reznor's score for Dragon Tattoo was pretty amazing--slight snub there.
Guess that's pretty much all my bitches and moans.
One more--The WTF nomination of the 9/11 Tom Hanks movie.
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Honestly, if you've seen one Terrence Malick film, then you've pretty much seen all his pretentious non-narrative, up-his-own-ass, boring art house shit-turd films.
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Jan 24, 2012 3:20:36 PM CST
EXTREMELY BRIBED AND INCREDIBLY CORRUPT!!!!!!!!!!!!
by siouxcitysarsaparilla
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and we get more films like that. whats the problem. hasnt this site been crying out for years for hollywood to make better films or at least more original ones.
so here is a french film in black and white with with subtitles and its a silent film. and there hasnt been a film like that in a long time.
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Jan 24, 2012 3:22:55 PM CST
Editing in GWTDT - I think he was schooling Chris Nolan how to do that style properly.
by siouxcitysarsaparilla
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I agree with the above comment about the editing. Talk about sloppy seconds. Also felt like a very uneeded "re-adaptation" *cough*remake*cough* of something most fans have already seen.
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The majority of the films listed for best picture are completely mediocre. Moneyball? Really? How does Melissa McCarthy get a nomination for best supporting actress? All she did was a female version of Zach Galifianakis in the Hangover. Too bad Eddie Murphy backed out because he would have been the only reason to watch this year.
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Jan 24, 2012 3:25:48 PM CST
chitownsbest, =Everything from the nominees to the host feels stale=
by lv_426
Perhaps the Oscars are in need of a reboot?
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Jan 24, 2012 3:27:02 PM CST
siouxcitysarsaparilla, yeah, because out of all the directors out there
by mattman
Nolan is the one who needs schooling.
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Yeah, Annie Hall comes to mind. Fuck I'm old. No, I don't think Star Wars deserved best picture, if you are thinking that.
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Jan 24, 2012 3:28:22 PM CST
Is it true that in Indonesia Days of Heaven is called Wheat: The Movie, or does IMDB have a sense of humour?
by siouxcitysarsaparilla
In all seriousness, anybody that says The Tree of Life and Days of Heaven have the same visual style is legally blind. In one, practically every shot is like a static canvas. In the other, the camera pioneers a very fluid new poetics. The use of lighting is different too. Malick has significantly developed his technique since the 1970s. The New World was the best film of the 2000s and looks nothing like Badlands.
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Jan 24, 2012 3:29:23 PM CST
How does a silent film get nominated for Best Screenplay? That's like cheating on your SATs or something.
by siouxcitysarsaparilla
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Thank you, thank you, thank you.
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Thank God that someone else besides me actually liked The Curious Case of Benjamin Button. I found it to be a dark magical and somber epic. I prefer it to The Social Network, which I find to be one of the most overrated movies in the pantheon of overrated films.
Hell, I'd rather watch Alien³ than The Social Network. And you all know how Alien³ can set off Old Man Acheron.
Other than that though, I love pretty much all of Fincher's stuff. Although, I still haven't seen his version of The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo. -
you should stick to anticipating Peter Berg's BATTLESHIP.
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I hope Rango wins. That's about all I care about.
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Jan 24, 2012 3:32:37 PM CST
lv_426, I should have known BEN BUTTON would be up your alley.
by choppah
You seem like the thoughtful, ruminative type.
Gotta disagree with you on THE SOCIAL NETWORK, though. I was dazed after I first saw it, and I get caught up in it every time I see it on TV. It's the GOODFELLAS of snarky computer nerd films. -
Jan 24, 2012 3:33:26 PM CST
darthvadersbadside: How the hell is ANNIE HALL *overproduced*?
by choppah
Huh?
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Jan 24, 2012 3:34:14 PM CST
How in the hell could they nominate a goddamn dog for best actor!
by moosemalloy
I'm so pissed off!
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That's like calling Avatar under-produced.
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Jan 24, 2012 3:36:48 PM CST
Incidentally, I did rewatch ALIEN³ the other day as part of my reassessment of the series.
by choppah
What an unholy mess. There are some good things going on there, but the awful outweighs everything.
In light of Fincher's later success, and the towering legacy of the first two films, I'd say ALIEN³ is one of the grandest missed opportunities in cinema history.
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Jan 24, 2012 3:37:08 PM CST
I bought the Blu-ray for Benjamin Button because I'm a David Fincher fan
by wrath_of_fett
I tried to watch that movie 3 times. Never got past the first 1/2 hour. Just bored me to fucking tears.
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=This year is pretty bad, but I'll nominate 1984 as a year with really undistinguished best picture nominees that don't hold up well to scrutiny...=
Seriously?
I fucking love Amadeus.
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Jan 24, 2012 3:37:59 PM CST
When that little dog scampers up on stage to receive his oscar I'm going to shoot my tv!
by moosemalloy
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Yeah, I love Fincher, but wasn't big on Social Network either. I appreciated its craft, but the actors and events just did not involve me.
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But ANNIE HALL is the better film.
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It's hard to explain, but it is just one of those movies that I thought was good, worth a watch or two, but beyond that it seemed over-hyped and not something I'd need to see tons of times.
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was it a better character study about whiny New Yorkers? Sure. But there are a myriad of other elements that make a better movie than that.
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Jan 24, 2012 3:42:35 PM CST
The fucking dog didn't have a single line in the entire movie!
by moosemalloy
Best Actor?! Sheesh!
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How the fuck wasn't CLOSE ENCOUNTERS nominated?!?
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Jan 24, 2012 3:43:22 PM CST
Perhaps Drive can win some professional photography awards since the film industry snubbed it.
by siouxcitysarsaparilla
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To Sam Fulmer. Tin Tin as a main character was incredibly boring. My own kids could care less about him. I would have preferred 10 min of more character development than mostly action and goofy British characters where I could care less about all of them. A good movie sets stronger able character so the actions scenes work. Tin Tin does not do this.
Whats done is done. No Tin Tin best animated picture statue. Thank you Academy! Just cause it's Spielberg and a cherished comic character does not automatically make it a good movie.
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Jan 24, 2012 3:44:46 PM CST
The Social Network is a very high level piece of writing the symbolism in that film is very well developed.
by siouxcitysarsaparilla
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Jan 24, 2012 3:45:08 PM CST
melgibsoncalledmethenword, I like the synopsis for your sure to win an Academy Award 9/11 Nam film
by lv_426
Might I suggest a title for it?
ELEVEN SHADES OF ORANGE
You should see if Jonah Hill can star in it and have Terrence Malick direct if from a screenplay by Diablo Cody and Charlie Kaufman. -
Could be. Understandable.
But I think THE SOCIAL NETWORK, like NETWORK before it, approaches the medium at its center with equal measures of awe, dread, admiration and revulsion. -
a remake of forrest Gump.
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I agree on Alien3. (sorry I don't know how to put the cool little 3 up top) But yes, total missed opportunity and the grandest scale. But it begs the question, was Indy 4 the larger missed opportunity?
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I've never even heard of any of those documentaries, but all I've heard people talk about this year was werner herzog's cave of forgotten dreams, and how the use of 3D is "more impressive than 'avatar'", and doesn't it hold a 98% tomato rating?
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Jan 24, 2012 3:51:09 PM CST
Yeah, remember all of those serendipitous run-ins with historical figures in BENJAMIN BUTTON?
by choppah
Or that affair Forrest Gump had with that woman other than Jenny?
Or how Forrest ended up having a relationship with his father?
Or how Benjamin ended up living happily ever after even though his true love died?
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In this day and age, no one ever says Annie who? It's stood the test of time as a great movie--whether it should have won that year is another debate.
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Jan 24, 2012 3:52:10 PM CST
When that little dog ends up taking over this site from Harry then you'll all be sorry!
by moosemalloy
So sorry.
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Despite its flaws, INDY IV at least had some of that old goofiness in flashes.
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ANNIE HALL is a classic. It's no SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE or CRASH.
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The only reason Star Wars got in was it was such a massive cultural phenom they felt they had too include it.
Didn't help that the people associated with Close Encounters were not the best loved folks in town either.
Chop...have you read " You'll Never Eat Lunch in this Town Again"? That was an ugly production beginning to end. -
Hmm, I'm not sure about that. I'm not saying what I think should win, just what is expected to win. It seems like the movie everyone talks about but actually has no chance of winning the gold. But maybe I'm wrong, I really have no idea. The Descendants I guess would be my bet, it's very Oscar bait-y just like The King's Speech, but it also isn't outright terrible like Extremely Loud. Oscar bait doesn't necessarily mean it's crap.
Also, I think the editing style of GWTDT works for certain films. But editing, like everything else, has to fit the feel and theme of the film, and I think it was cut like it was The Social Network but it needed to be cut more like Se7en or even Zodiac (which is a very quickly cut film, but in a much different way that is completely fitting for that world).
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Jan 24, 2012 3:57:42 PM CST
Annie Hall and Star Wars are proof some films just shouldn't go up against one another
by mattman
One of the finest examples of apples and oranges. They are both masterpieces, and COMPLETELY different genres that have NOTHING in common. Choppah, I'd like to see you tell me to my face, without laughing, that Annie Hall is better than Star Wars.
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Jan 24, 2012 3:58:41 PM CST
I'm comfortable with Fincher not being nominated
by siouxcitysarsaparilla
Hands down it's the best made studio film I've seen for some time (I enjoyed Rise of the Planet of the Apes and Super 8 back to back this year but they're a rung down. I liked the characterization in Abram's screenplay a lot for what it's worth and argued that at length in one of the threads)
Girl with the Dragon Tattoo doesn't cover new ground for Fincher though. He takes the themes he said a lot about in Zodiac and adapts them to the needs of a studio franchise about as well as possible but it's problematic because that story was all about being frustrated by the impossibility of ever answering a mystery. I understand how he's trying to dramatise analytic problem solving in a visual medium but I think it cheapens the spirit of the earlier work and isn't the most compelling sequence to encounter in a thriller. At least in Shutter Island when Leo ran around the island doing nothing it purposely led him up that spiral staircase as the plot disintegrated into mad nothings and he broke back to the disturbing naturalism of that lake house in one of the hardest won tonal shifts you could hope for and which makes the film and its genre bending meditation on escapism. GWTDT left me impressed by the sound design and by Rooney Mara and by the overall visual craftsmanship but the early mood was misspent a little I felt. The title motif works very well when the first image of the Dragon Tattoo makes you rethink your assumptions about finding women titillating. I thought that was cleverly set up. I'm not sure the transition from the mystery story back to the character beats at the end wasn't a little clumsy. I also felt we could have spent more time in the world of discovery when we first went to the island and the early use of photography and music was squandered a little in the middle which felt a bit too functional. That said it's a much better film than some of the other crap that's got more recognition. -
Paris for best original script.
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Jan 24, 2012 4:00:46 PM CST
Why is no one else pissed that a stinking dog was nominated for an oscar?!
by moosemalloy
Come on guys, this is our chance to really be heard by Hollywood!
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Not when there are people who like Predator 2 and Alien 3.
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Some sort of raffle? Doesn't seem worth this much attention.
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Jan 24, 2012 4:02:38 PM CST
In retrospect it's easy to say what should and shouldn't win
by monolith_jones
The choice of winner(and nominations) is as much a sign of the times as the films themselves. Some stand the test of time, others don't. I think it takes a bit of time to really consider a work of art in most cases. A lot of these award shows make rash decisions that seem based soley on emotion rather than emotion and an objective consideration.
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What else... some years just have multiple great films. Like Star Wars and Annie Hall.
Or, for example, 2007 was the best year of last decade for me. No Country won it and deserved it. Zodiac was also equally brilliant, those 2 are literally my top 5 for the decade. And then There Will Be Blood, Sunshine and Jesse James? Incredible fucking year.
Also, I'll go out and say it: I loved Benjamin Button, and that and Zodiac are really the reasons I respect Fincher so much, because he went out of his comfort zone (yes Zodiac, despite being a serial killer movie, was much much different than anything he had done prior) and he fucking nailed it. Yes, the Benjamin Button screenplay isn't perfect, Roth does kinda re-copy Forrest Gump without all the irony and the moral character of Benjamin comes into question a few times and I feel the film could have gone into those dilemmas, like abandoning his family, in more detail.
But as a whole everything else, especially the direction, is amazing. No film that I have ever seen so precisely captures nostalgia like Benjamin Button does. The inset that comes with the blu/dvd really is spot on in the way with both Zodiac and Button, Fincher captures a lost era as more than just an image or props, but as a living time period that was and still is because of the glory of cinema. Such an underrated film, and so NOT oscar bait. But don't worry "haters" :-) Fincher went back to his punk roots with Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. -
Forgot about them. Oh yeah, I've read that book.
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It would be a drama/heist type of story.
The concept is there is this group of thieves that can see into the future, but only in terms of natural or man made disasters. They can't see every damn detail in front of them ahead of time like the precogs in Minority Report.
So anyways, they plan their heists around disastrous events because of the police and FBI and everyone being so distracted... like in this case 9/11. Hot on their trail is a special top secret government task force called Clarity, that knows about people like these clairvoyant thieves.
- Jonah Hill: nerdy clairvoyant hacker of the team of thieves.
- Michael Shannon: ex mountain climber who is good at getting into tight spaces to extract some sweet loot for the team.
- Noomi Rapace: the team's honeypot.
- James Brolin: the leader, a suave but violent dude who gets an adrenaline rush from all the destruction.
- Kate Winslet: the head agent of Clarity, tasked with hunting down the clairvoyant thieves. And just so we can throw a cliche in there, she is also the ex-lover of James Brolin's character.
John Malkovich: a rival clairvoyant thief who works alone and often seems to thwart the efforts of Brolin's team.
If Christopher Nolan were to direct it, we'd have sort of an Inception crossed with United 93/Everything is Loud and Close and Extreme or whatever the fuck this year's 9/11 film is called.
I shall call it... SEER$.
It think it's a guaranteed box office success and a surefire Oscar winner rolled into one. -
Yes we can. You just have to ignore all the hype that Star Wars collected over the decades and just look at the film itself, without all the additional baggage that came later. Of course Star Wars was a better film than Annie Hall.
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Right on about SW and Annie Hall. Apples and oranges. When people bitch about that, that's when I really want to yell "film isn't a competition!!" There can be more than one great film a year, just as some years don't really have anything spectacular.
Being popular doesn't make a film automatically good or automatically overrated. In fact, sometimes I think popular movies are underrated, like Gladiator. The extended cut of Gladiator is such a complex, beautiful thematic thing, and it really gets to the heart of what America's problem is now, that if you give people great entertainment they will ignore how you're screwing them over financially. -
Jan 24, 2012 4:04:57 PM CST
halfbreedqueen2: I hate to break it to you, but THE ARTIST is the frontrunner.
by choppah
Cleaned up at the Globes, and it just won the Producer's Guild Award.
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Jan 24, 2012 4:05:46 PM CST
Best crime solving technique still belongs to Dale Cooper. He didn't need to look at any photographs on a computer!
by siouxcitysarsaparilla
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Jan 24, 2012 4:06:24 PM CST
Mattman, once upon a time I thought it was ludicrous that a Woody Allen film beat out STAR WARS at the Oscars.
by choppah
Then I watched ANNIE HALL.
It's a great film, it's a well-made film, and it doesn't have Mark Hamill whining about the Tosche Station. -
That guy is a major talent. Get him a smart sci fi script, stat!
Cinematography was easily top 3. Most exquisite color and night photography I saw in a film last year. -
AVATAR vs. HURT LOCKER is another example.
Both really good films, but I'd come out on the side of AVATAR this time. If I had to choose, of course. I'd prefer not to choose. -
...Inglourious Basterds should have.
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Jan 24, 2012 4:13:38 PM CST
AVATAR should have won because it reminded white people what pieces of shit they're ancestors were
by moosemalloy
No just kiddin'.
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Yeah there is an unfortunate mentality (even among geeks lately) that big effects movies are inherently inferior to little independent films no one has heard of. It's a shame.
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I think Payne is one of the most underrated directors working today. I'd like for Malick to win, but I he's probably too cerebral. I wouldn't mind Scorsese winning, either.
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It's a rare thing to see a Herzog film nominated for an Oscar. He finances his own films or gets his friends to help make most of his movies. Plus, he's German...*ahem*
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Jan 24, 2012 4:16:34 PM CST
Hurt Locker gets props for showing what really happens when you try to outrun an explosion
by mattman
In the words of Will Ferrell, "Movies are BULLSHIT!"
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Jan 24, 2012 4:18:34 PM CST
Is the "The Artist" like an authentic 1920s silent film?
by johnfordsmissingeye
With intertitles and organ music? Just curious.
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Love the way he escapes into the crowd that's playing inside the getaway car on the radio. That shit ought to be a Don Delillo book.
The rest of the story is not at that level. The production design is as strong as it gets however and Carey Mulligan continues to impress.
It's a bit like a motion picture put together from stills from a Stephen Shore photography book though. Now that can work. The Straight Story and Days of Heaven are two that aren't so much motion pictures as a gallery of paintings.
The scene in the diner I don't think anything moves not Ryan Gosling not Carey Mulligan not the table not the interior not the cars and not the parking lot in the exterior window frame. No the only thing that moves is the other cars in the long distance on the concrete overpass that's still as the sky. -
Jan 24, 2012 4:23:28 PM CST
I've never seen Annie Hall, I will never watch a Woody Allen movie
by jackslater4
No thanks. Not for me.
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Jan 24, 2012 4:24:37 PM CST
GWTDT - was the shot of the house at the end a call back to North By Northwest or did I imagine that?
by siouxcitysarsaparilla
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Rooney's performance as Lisbeth Salander was pretty amazing and intense. I'm pretty surprised that they actually gave Rooney Mara the nod for "Girl With the Dragon Tattoo". Rooney did a great job in that role.
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You're missing out on some great movies. If you change your mind, start with a light one with just laughs and no depth. Manhattan Murder Mystery. You might hate him but he's one of the funniest fuckers god ever dropped on the planet.
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Jan 24, 2012 4:25:54 PM CST
People forget that there are a LOT of politics to an Oscar...
by conspiracy
you have to be honest about this, it is a BUSINESS.
Sometimes powerful Academy members owe something to someone, other times people get passed on due to a personal grudge, lots of times it is just a blatant studio payoff...and once in awhile it is the more powerful Academy members cajoling the others into making a Political statement.
I think if people took the time to look at Hollywood beyond what they see on the screen...they wouldn't be so shocked at the outcome of not just Awards, but of how films are handled..or NOT handled as it may be.
It's an ugly town...chocked full of some of the ugliest people on the planet...that just happen to be in the business of entertaining us. -
I'm tired of seeing good comedic performances ignored constantly by the Academy.
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Wasn't a fan of Tilda Swinton's movie--but she deserves to win in my book...oh wait--they fucked her over. Having said that, I agree with you. Rooney took a character already loved and established on screen and made it her own. That's gotta be a bitch. I hope she wins too--even though, again..wasn't a huge fan of her movie.
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Jan 24, 2012 4:32:23 PM CST
brocknroll...No Surprise. Rape or Gratuitous Sex Scene=Oscar Nom
by conspiracy
As I said above...if a woman wants an Oscar Nomination you do one of two things to guarantee it...
1. Work with Woody Allen...Blow him if under 30.
2. Do a gratuitous rape or sex scene. The old white guys of the Academy loves them some rape. -
Andy Serkis Rise of Planet of The Apes
Peter Linz The Muppets
Mel Gibson The Beaver
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They aren't hard to get guys. Married chicks love to give them...if you're not the one married to them.
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Jan 24, 2012 4:40:54 PM CST
The Artist is the frontrunner and (deserved or not) it is obviously gonna win.
by m6y
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Have not seen it...but Academy members prefer their rape memories fresh...October is the earliest you can put it out there...and then hope nobody comes along with something more rapier in the meantime.
So ya...Kate got fucked over because her rape scene was overshadowed by Dragon Tattoo's rape scene. They can only nominate one..too much rape nominated raises too many questions...lol -
Jan 24, 2012 4:43:07 PM CST
proevad I don't hate Woody...but I do not like his films..
by conspiracy
Just something about them doesn't appeal to me..., I do know I don't care for his East Coast vibe...and yes I know that is a personal hangup...but fuck I do dislike New York.
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Jan 24, 2012 4:44:38 PM CST
Breaking News: Tim Thomas to boycott Oscars over THE HELP nominations
by moosemalloy
Hockey goes Hollywood!
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Fair enough. I won't watch a Chuck Norris movie. To each his own lol
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film. It has many fine qualities and is enjoyable to watch, but it is clearly more of a theatrical piece than it is cinematic.
When I look back at the last 30-40 years and try to find an undistinguished batch of best picture nominees without at least one standout, 1984 comes to mind. -
Jan 24, 2012 4:47:30 PM CST
are any of the best actress nominees playing hookers this year?
by jackslater4
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I've always said Sacha Baron Cohen was a technology.
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Jan 24, 2012 4:48:31 PM CST
I mean did they play hookers in the movies they were nominated for
by jackslater4
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It's a Woody Allen movie that people who don't like Woody Allen films seem to like.
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I'm not saying that's a bad thing, I was asking legitimately what do people expect to be the winner? Last year it was Social Network but then closer to the actual awards King's Speech.
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Jan 24, 2012 4:49:53 PM CST
Are any of the best actors paying hookers this year?
by siouxcitysarsaparilla
You're god damn right they are!
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Either way, the Academy is officially obsolete in my book.
Oh, and BRIDESMAIDS will win Best Screenplay just so all the Gen-X women in Hollywood can feel good about themselves. -
I guess Pixar can't hit 'em ALL out of the park.
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It was a great, great film and the first true 3D narrative film I've seen. It was also one of the worst advertised "good" movies I've seen in a long time.
Way to take a timeless story made with the newest technology and make it look like a 90s kids movie. -
Two girlfriends on a summer holiday in Spain become enamored with the same painter, unaware that his ex-wife, with whom he has a tempestuous relationship, is about to re-enter the picture.
Why the hell would I ever want to watch that? So I can bring it up at ladies book club? -
Jan 24, 2012 4:53:01 PM CST
I'm disappointed we won't get to hear Lars Von Trier say something profoundly offensive in an acceptance speech.
by siouxcitysarsaparilla
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It is a film so good that it managed to keep a bunch of 17yr old urban Highschool students enthralled.
Seriously...I was taken to see that film in highschool, a special class trip...we all loved it...not an easy thing to accomplish considering the audience and the subject presented.
F. Murry Abraham's best work...sad how he has never done as well since. -
Jan 24, 2012 4:56:44 PM CST
Wait, there are people who don't like the transparently great Annie Hall?
by m6y
Certainly one the finest film comedies ever made.
Christ, it even has Bruce Dickinson in it. Yes, THE Bruce Dickinson. -
Jan 24, 2012 4:57:51 PM CST
siouxcitysarsaparilla..Lets get our terminology right dude..
by conspiracy
they are NOT hookers.
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I actually rented it with much trepidation and did not expect to like it at all, but Javier Bardem is the man and pulls off a three way relationship with Scarlett Johansen and Penelope Cruz after banging the other chick.
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Jan 24, 2012 5:01:58 PM CST
Lest you guys forget, the sole purpose of the Academy Awards telecast is ratings.
by jawsfan
The Academy even admits it. The ratings from the show drive the advertisers' fees, which is the lion's share of the Academy's budget for the next operating year. The Academy will do ANYTHING to boost ratings, and that includes expanding the Best Picture nominees list from the original five to nine or ten in the hopes that SOMETHING you have seen and liked will be on the list and you will tune in to see if it wins.
The Academy admits that their voting system for nominees and winners is extremely flawed. But that's not the point --- it's about commerce (TV ratings and revenue), not art.
The major issue for you to consider is this: you should stop holding up the Oscar as the end-all, be-all of movie awards. The Oscar is NOT a measure of artistic merit so much as it is a measure of the result of an inherently flawed voting system.
The Oscars tend to bat about .350.... sometimes the most deserving persons win, but more often it's a coin flip or a fucking mystery.
The Oscar should be important ONLY to the person who actually wins one. For the rest of us it shouldn't mean a goddamn thing. -
But I was getting into the apples and oranges thing.
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Someone just mentioned GLADIATOR directors cut, which is timely because I just saw it for the first time last week on blu ray.
When GLADIATOR came out theatrically I thought it was a cool, entertaining movie. A historical *action* movie rather than a historical epic. I prob would have given it 8 or 9 out of 10.
But seeing it last week, with the extra footage, I have to say its aged REALLY WELL. It's actually an even better movie than I remember it being.
5 seconds into the opening shot of Maximus with the fur lined armour on in Germania and I was transported. Russel Crowe is a force of nature in that flick - never better - and all the smaller parts are filled out well too from the likes of Ollie Reed, Richard Harris, and Djimon Housou.
I'd also forgotten how amazing Joaquin Phoenix is in creating a character you just *fucking hate*. I mean I never wanted an onscreen character to get his comeuppance as much as Commodus in this movie.
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I'm as big a fan as the next guy, but GWTDT was 75% a shot for shot remake. Not to mention a number of key character traits and scenes were left out which were in the book and the Swedish film. Those who actually have the gull to say this was more accurate to the book are really looking dumb right now. It's obvious you didn't even read the novel given the number of changes Fincher and co made. Even Mara turned out to be exactly like Repace. No better, no worse.
We all love Fincher, but this was his most pointless film. They could have just spent $500 bucks and hired a guy to color grade the Swedish film in inky blacks and a green tint. I'm still surprised by how much was changed after reading the Fincher fanboys claimed it was more accurate. Talk about the emperors new clothes...
Anyways, Tintin was robbed. Glad to see so much support for it on here. Seemed to be nothing but whining in the TBs before it's release. It's a wonder what actually seeing the film will do. -
Jan 24, 2012 5:04:06 PM CST
@conspiracy Saw Amadeus in high school and liked it, too. I like it!
by m6y
Not great cinema, though. I mean, Milos Forman directed the sublime One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, and Amadeus doesn't compare IMHO. That said, I like the film... it is very interesting contemplation of the nature of creativity and F. Murray Abraham is stellar in it.
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Jan 24, 2012 5:07:50 PM CST
EXTREMELY BOUGHT AND INCREDIBLY PAID FOR!!!!!!!!!
by siouxcitysarsaparilla
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Please send all flowers and condolences to:
Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences
8949 Wilshire Boulevard
Beverly Hills, California 90211
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Or can we?
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Jan 24, 2012 5:16:25 PM CST
Scott Rudin's special event escort budget for Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close is greater than all the revenue lost to illegal filesharing since 2006. FACT!
by siouxcitysarsaparilla
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Jan 24, 2012 5:23:29 PM CST
Just picked up the Godfather Blu Ray collection for 34.99 on Amazon
by jackslater4
Victory!
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I just watched it the other day.
I don't think I've actually ever sat down and watched the director's cut either. I've seen most of the extra scenes, as the first edition DVD had a whole shitload of scenes they left out of the film.
One thing I noticed when watching the theatrical cut the other day, as I hadn't seen it in awhile, was that it felt paced faster than I remember it. It really flew by as a movie, whereas I remember it being kind of a longer epic style movie years ago.
I shall give that director's cut a gander, as I wouldn't mind a slightly longer and richer journey through that story.
Oh and speaking of Greco-Roman antiquity and all that stuff, they need to make more films set in that period. Not Clash of the Titans mythology stuff, nor such comic book stylized stuff like 300 or the Spartacus TV series. I'm talking honest to Zeus real historical epics with real sets and tons of extras during battle scenes. There is so much stuff they could mine for storylines: the ancient Olympic games, the Golden Age of Athens under Pericles, the Battle of Marathon, the Anabasis, etc. And that is just the Ancient Greek stuff. -
What a stupid thing to say. So, I guess according to this lamebrain music as part of the film-making process is now useless? I wonder how much he would like his favorite movies if there was no music in them. I'm guessing not so much.
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Jan 24, 2012 5:27:59 PM CST
Can we all at least breath a big collective sigh of relief due to the fact that
by lv_426
the creepy Leo DiCaprio in old man makeup J. Edgar Hoover biopic didn't get lumped in there with a nomination?
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Jan 24, 2012 5:28:56 PM CST
The reason THE WARRIOR wasn't nominated was because only MMA fans want to see two guys 69 each other
by moosemalloy
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Jan 24, 2012 5:29:52 PM CST
TV is so much better these days. Give Cumberbatch
by bedknobs_and_boomsticks
best actor, even though it's a telefilm.
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-- it's just WARRIOR.
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Yeah, I really think the academy needs to split the best picture into genre awards. It seemed ridiculous last year to see Inception going up against Toy Story 3.
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Jan 24, 2012 5:34:37 PM CST
Wow, the Academy just chips away, every year, at the "magic" (or so it seemed) that comes with the award...
by daviddunn
I remember as a kid thinking how cool it must have been to win one of those big, gold statues. There used to be so much more pride in the award and the people that were nominated. But, perhaps that is simply because I was a kid and not as wise to the politics. I don't know why but I still get a little excited every year to see the nominees and always wind up completely confused and pissed off and always ask myself, why do I care? Really thinking about that question, after this years completely ridiculous list of nominations, it is because I am still looking for that feeling as a kid watching the people and movies that I absolutely loved get the recognition. Some kind of weird, cathartic experience I guess. But, as usual, it is the same story every year, only a little worse each time.
So, really, after that rant that went nowhere, who the hell cares. At least we have forums like this now where we can all celebrate and discuss the ones worth celebrating and discussing.
Anyway, I agree with a lot of the above, would loved to see WARRIOR get more recognition along with Hardy. I don't think it will be long before he is getting awarded or nominated yearly though. Also, was really hoping for 50/50 to get some credit for the screenplay. EXTREMELY LOUD is ridiculous. I think Anthony Bourdain (food critic, No Reservations) had the best review of that movie (not exact quote but something along the lines of): "watched 20 mins of extremely loud before pain became too much. Despised." -
Then let me throw Breaking Bad's Bryan Cranston in for best actor. Giancarlo Esposito, Aaron Paul, or Dean Norris for best supporting actor.
Steve Buscemi for best actor from Boardwalk Empire. Michael Pitt and Michael Shannon also from Boardwalk Empire for best supporting.
Game of Thrones also had some great performances too.
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A decent popcorn B-movie at best. Hardy's performance was just over-the-top silly. It worked in Bronson. Here? Not so much.
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Wow. The Academy appears to be completely outta touch with essentially everything.
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That movie felt much longer to me than the Swedish original but there's only a 6 minute difference. The director (Niels Arden Oplev) and the editor (Anne Osterud, who also cut THE PUSHER films) of the original gave the story a nice brisk pace. It clipped right along. The remake, not so much.
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I find these award shows are way too culturally inbreed - it hasn't been watchable in years.
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I thought it was okay, but if you don't see the similarities between it and Forrest Gump you're delusional. You can point out all the differences, but that doesn't change the fact that the two are strikingly alike. And I guess I assumed that's what Fincher and Eric Roth (who wrote both screenplays) were going for: sort of an "anti-Gump."
It's structured in pretty much the same way: set in the present, the bulk of the story takes place in the past and spans several generations, and the two main characters are a couple who meet as children and keep finding each other again throughout life. On a somewhat more superficial note, the main character tells his story through voiceover, begins life in the Deep South but spends most of the movie traveling the world, and is at first not believed by the person who he's telling his story to (his daughter in this case, who's reading his journal). If there's one key difference it's that Forrest Gump made friends everywhere he went and accidentally changed the world whenever he sneezed, whereas Benjamin Button could barely make or keep any friends, either as the result of time or his personality, and left almost no mark on history whatsoever. If Forrest Gump is the guy who mooned Richard Nixon on TV, Benjamin Button is the guy who caught a glimpse of the event while channel surfing. So in some ways the two characters are almost like opposite sides of the same coin. -
That doesn't change the fact that the tone and mood and overall thematic threads running through Forrest Gump and Benjamin Button are very different from one another.
I love both films by the way.
It is like bitching about Predator and Aliens being the same just because they both feature a military unit fighting for survival against a hostile alien menace. There is so much more detail and just plain directorial vision that differs between those two films though, that to me they are both great fun and can be considered worthy films despite their glaringly obvious similarities. -
Jan 24, 2012 6:22:39 PM CST
The reason for me why the Oscars have not outlived their usefulness
by jaka
They still get people talking about and watching movies. The awards don't seem to be nearly as prestigious as they were in the past. But ANYTHING that gets people talking about or watching movies is still a positive.
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Well, I'm not criticizing exactly. Like I said it seems to me that the similar structure was intentional. Examining where it splits with Gump and why is part of what makes discussing the movie interesting to me. At the end of the day I just didn't think it was that great. I enjoyed it though, and like everything Fincher makes it was beautiful.
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Jan 24, 2012 6:32:23 PM CST
When the Academy got it right: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/76th_Academy_Awards
by rtambree
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My comment should have read "Maybe not overproduced, but overhyped mediocrities have won before..." I remember watching the commencials, and hearing all the buzz about what a wonderful film it was. My girlfriend at the time and I felt ripped off after sitting through that dreck. We walked out as the credits rolled and snuck into Star Wars that was about 10 minutes into it, but we'd already seen it like 6 times by then, so we knew the plot.
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Boring, cliched rubbish. Your trying to tell me that not only just by coincidence that the 2 finalists are brothers and the press uncovers it but that Tom hardy is a war hero who disappeared. OOOOOK
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Jan 24, 2012 6:41:50 PM CST
Let us not forget "Crash." And FUCK YOU who say Annie Hall was mediocre!
by lanemyersclassic
Seriously CRASH!? Oh yeah, it had Sandra Bullock in it.
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What a dogshit performance turned in by Mr. Clooney. The Descendants is an absolutely pointless movie with a predictable character development that George will make good with his kids. And what else does he learn? That doing the right Oscarbait shite can get you nominated.
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Gary Oldman was fucking marvelous in TTSS. Oldman has been overlooked by Hollywood for YEARS. Immortal Beloved... awesome... State of Grace.... good stuff... The Professional... EVERYONEEEE!!!!!!..... Sid and Nancy... on and on... come on academy... do the right thing.
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it post my comment when I press the return key?
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The Academy certainly got some things right that year, like best film and director. But no Oscar for Murray? And City of God not getting more nominations is downright criminal. IMHO that is the one of the top 10 films of the '00's.
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Jan 24, 2012 7:07:31 PM CST
This nomination list clearly shows the generational divide in America now...
by jim jam bongs
Tea Party vs. Occupy; SOPA vs. the Internet generation. The major conflict that this nation is facing is not over race, economic class or even religion -- it's the older generation (the so-called Baby Boomers) vs. Gen-Xers and every younger generation after them.
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Not my own opinion, but that of this article, and I think it's correct on several points:
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Maybe not The Professional - that was a little OTT like Pacino in Heat.
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Shoooooot Dimitri! Shooooot! FIRE THE PANZERSCHREEECK!
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You're one of those really shitty trolls that I actually feel sorry for. Honestly, I'm shedding a tear dude. Just really, really pathetic.
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SHE'S GOT A GREAT ASS!!!!
Okay, he might have been a little over the top but that film was best picture material easy. Michael Mann can shoot a cityscape like nobody else.
DON'T WASTE MOTHERFUCKING TIME!!!!
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mel brooks should storm the stage and demand an oscar for silent movie
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Robbed. Performance of a lifetime. What a shame.
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Who can name the actor that spoke in the film?
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Jan 24, 2012 8:00:44 PM CST
Notice: all the actors and movies that were robbed of a nomination or young/appeal to younger (age 40 and younger) audiences...
by jim jam bongs
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Also, Annie Hall was the wrong call, it should have been given to Star Wars, but you can't let sci-fi win or there will be blood in the streets.
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The Golden Globes are the "critics" awards while the Oscars are the more broadly chosen industry awards.
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Jan 24, 2012 8:04:21 PM CST
Pacino - shouted too much in Heat. De Niro's performance was more nuanced.
by rtambree
Love Heat - it's a shame it was snubbed at the Oscars.
Other snubs:
Emile Hirsch in Into the Wild
Naomi Watts in Mulholland Drive and King Kong
Sean Astin in ROTK
And Zimmer's score in Gladiator and Mansell's score in The Fountain.
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...I might actually break down crying...
Then again, I'll probably do the same thing if he does.
Then I'll run around my neighborhood shouting thanks to God for finally pulling through on this one.
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Actually, both Tattoo movies are very different. For starters, the 2009 version is clearly titled Men Who Hate Women and follows that as a thematic thread, whereas the American version doesn't except on the most superficial level.
They are paced differently. The fate of a major character is much different. The way the killer is revealed (including an early reveal) is way different. The performance is much different for Lisbeth, she's both a stronger and weaker character in the Swedish version. Stronger in that she makes the decisions, she isn't pining for the man, she has a more commanding presence. Weaker in that we get more the sense that she has been very wounded by what has happened to her and doesn't have any sort of master plan at any point.
And that is the biggest difference... the Swedish version never even plays with the idea that she might be "insane," and one of the best parts of that film, where he says "I wouldn't have done what you did [...] but I'm glad you're here" is missing. She's a much more interesting and less cliche character in the Swedish film, and yes, in some ways the Swedish film changed the book for the better. -
Jan 24, 2012 8:10:08 PM CST
Annie Hall over Star Wars was the platinum standard of Oscar highway robbery..
by pennsy2011
Until The Hurt Locker over Avatar. Annie Hall flat out sucks sewer water. It was overrated then and now.
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Subtle like a motherfucker.
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Mind you I think Gosling is a mugging jackass and that I've only seen VANISHING POINT. Hell I own it.
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You've eaten the bread. You've seen the harvest. Now, get ready for the motion picture experience of a lifetime.
Sioux City Sasperilla ("Is that an Eastern thing?" "Far from it, Dude. Faaar from it."), you made me laugh, brother. -
Jan 24, 2012 8:48:49 PM CST
-- bongs: I assume you are referring to the Twilight movies?
by moosemalloy
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Jan 24, 2012 8:58:13 PM CST
War horse was an exceptional film until I realized it was Forrest Gump with a horse
by choppah
People who claim Benjamin Button is a Gump redux are either ignorant lazy or haven't seen the film.
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but that's all it was. The dialogue is still just as awful as it always was. Stuff still makes no sense. Chewbacca makes the same stupid grunt every time he speaks yet Han actually understands sentences? Yeah, those blaster marks had to have come from Stormtroopers--you can tell by the accuracy. Really? They can't hit the broad side of a barn when they are on screen. A space station the size of a fucking moon has like 12 tie fighters defending it. Ok. Whatever. There's dumb ass shit like that all the way through it. There's a reason Annie Hall beat its ass. It's a better written and acted movie--plus Diane Keaton doesn't have bagel hair.
It was a great movie for it's time, but it does not hold up--why do you think George keeps changing it? I'm not saying it didn't deserve the nomination. It did. It was groundbreaking--but even then it wasn't perfect and it sure as hell isn't now. It's not a holy relic. Get over it. Shit.
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Jan 24, 2012 9:19:10 PM CST
earlier comment from mugato was spot on and brilliant
by miyamoto_musashi
Re Oscar Bait and perhaps the worst film to be ever nominated for an academy award.
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Jan 24, 2012 9:19:59 PM CST
What a crap year for film.. TREE OF LIFE is the only Academy Award worthy film listed...
by mentaldominance
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http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/35b0167b17/the-curious-case-of-forrest-gump
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Listen, obviously nobody in the talkback has seen "The Descendants" (don't bother) or they'd be in droves talking about how undeserving he is compared to Michael Shannon or Michael Fassbender. Hollywood is killing true acting.
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The 20 minute creation of the universe sequence in The Tree of Life. Call of the night. Gary Oldmen should have something by now.
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"Inglorious Basterds" should've won, don't know how it didn't considering the Academy eats up any film that makes Nazis look bad (I know). In that one it was a bunch of Jews mutilating Nazis and killing Hitler, how the FUCK doesn't it win? Other than that, it was also Tarantino's masterpiece in my opinion. Although I read "Django Unchained" and it was fucking phenomenal!!!!! Waltz may get another Oscar nod with that one.
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I disagree about Harry Potter, haven't heard a thing about it in months, I don't think anyone really gives a shit about that film anymore. No one on this site really talks about it, but "Warrior" gets a shit ton of love. So maybe you're right, "Warrior" may not translate with the general public, but even with the Scoobys who post on this site, I still respect their opinions more than the general public's. "Warrior" will be remembered on this site long after Harry Potter is just a distant memory.
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Jan 24, 2012 9:49:45 PM CST
Saw The Artist tonight....it was fucking GREAT
by melgibsoncalledmethenword
loved every frame. wonderful movie.
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Dumbest thing I have read in a long time.
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Best Actor and Best Supporting Actor. Lets give De Palma an award too.
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Yeah, I thought the same thing, I felt even commenting on that comment wasn't worth it. Glad you did though.
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...with the movies in nominated for best picture historically.
The Top 2011 films according to IMDB users are:
7. Drive
6. Hugo
5. Potter
4. Girl with Dragon Tattoo
3. The Artist
2. Warrior
1/Top Film. A Separation.
This means Warrior was flat-out robbed.
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Jan 24, 2012 10:22:50 PM CST
Tintin was one of the funnest moviest movies I've seen this year
by versatol
Kung fu Panda and Puss in Boots but no Tintin? WTF? Looking forward to the Peter Jackson directed sequel
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Oh, I see, what I should do is, er, come home and say 'Hi honey! Guess what? I walked into this house today, where this junkie asshole just fried his baby in a microwave, because it was crying too loud. So let me share that with you. Come on, let's share that, and in sharing it, we'll somehow, er, cathartically dispel all that heinous shit". Right? [pause] Wrong.
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“This December Gus Van Sant brings you an amazing story about two of the most unlikely friends. Oscar (Academy Award Winner Sean Penn) a mentally disabled Jewish prisoner of Dachau is on the run in Nazi Germany, with him is a Nazi prison guard( Academy Award Winner Tom Hanks) who is secretly gay and sympathetic to the Jewish cause. Sean Penn and Tom Hanks star in Looking for Oscar”
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From the Wall St journal:
LOS ANGELES — Actor James Farentino, who appeared in dozens of movies and television shows, died Tuesday in a Los Angeles hospital, according to a family spokesman. He was 73.
Farentino died of heart failure at Cedars-Sinai Hospital after a long illness, said the spokesman, Bob Palmer.
Farentino starred alongside Kirk Douglas and Martin Sheen in the 1980 science fiction film "The Final Countdown." The movie featured a modern aircraft carrier that travels back in time to Pearl Harbor hours before the Japanese attack.
Farentino also starred opposite Patty Duke in 1969's "Me, Natalie."
In 1967, he won a "Most Promising Newcomer" Golden Globe for his performance in the comedy "The Pad and How to Use It."
He also had recurring roles on "Dynasty," ''Melrose Place," ''The Bold Ones: The Lawyers" and "ER," playing the estranged father to George Clooney's character.
In 1978, he was nominated for an Emmy for his portrayal of Saint Peter in the television mini-series "Jesus of Nazareth."
A four-time divorcee, Farentino's tumultuous personal life made headlines, too.
In March 1994, he pleaded no contest to stalking his ex-girlfriend Tina Sinatra, daughter of Frank Sinatra.
In 2010, the actor was arrested at his Hollywood home on suspicion of battery when he tried to physically remove a man from his home.
Born in Brooklyn, N.Y., in 1938, Farentino is survived by two sons, David and Saverio. -
Wonderful film, really nice. I wouldn't recommend it to the average AICN talkbacker though. Same goes for Midnight in Paris.
Very happy to see Drive missing from the list, and extremely disapointed to Tree of Life even get mentioned, anywhere, for anything. And utterly sick of George Clooney's attempts to prove himself a serious actor. Will never forget some of the shit he made at the beginning of his career. Still, if he keeps practising, maybe one day he'll be able to act a different character than himself!
I found Tinker, Tailer, etc, etc., pretty dull. Moneyball too. Well suited to the taste of the general population of the Academy!
Can't wait to see My Week With Marilyn and Hugo though. Martin Scorsese will win best director because the Academy probably still feel guilty and continue to feel embarrassed of their past mistakes in ignoring him. They owe him seeing that this probably means a lot to him.
Anyway, the whole thing makes you realise how utterly irrelevent an industry's self praise is. Still it makes the performing clowns feel better about being overpaid to pretend to be other people, or George Clooney in a different costume! -
come on, this man DESERVES the Oscar... and although i'm not suprised by the lack of Fncher's Dragon tattoo nominations, think Reznor's score should have at least got a Nom, t was the best thing about that movie! and i want Tree of Life to win best pcture, but Hugo probably will... or some other pretentious crap movie nobody's seen... but don't take my word for it, ask these two inner city druggies i pay to give me head...
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Jan 24, 2012 11:49:11 PM CST
Tin Tin isn't eligible due to the extensive use of motion capture!!
by mrh
The Academy states that when it comes to Animated Films and the use of motion capture, that if motion capture was used for 75% or more of the animation then it will not be eligible. Bullshit if you ask me.
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How did Davis fare?
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On my first viewing of it, I was somewhat disappointed it wasn't as twisted as "Sideways."
But after I got past that, it clearly stands on its own merits.
It probably helps to have some interest in Hawaiian culture. (The soundtrack is an incredible sampler of Hawiian slack-key guitar music.)
Payne does an excellent job in all his films using real locations and creating a sense of specific place. In that regard "The Descendants" is no different from his earlier films.
And for the complaints about Clooney, I found it refreshing to see the quintessential Hollywood playboy prankster playing the part of a monogamous husband who feels betrayed by his wife's infidelity. -
Jan 25, 2012 12:05:46 AM CST
spaghettiwall: You're a little mistaken about Clooney's character.
by johnfordsmissingeye
He learns more than just how to be a good father. (That might be debatable, as it is.) *spoiler* His decision not to sell the family's property is clearly part of his character's development and suggests he's ready to reinvest himself in the culture and land that he has inherited from his descendants. *end spoiler*
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Jan 25, 2012 12:09:24 AM CST
Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel web poll has troubling implications for ABC...
by pennsy2011
Which of the films nominated for Best Picture have you seen?
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The Help (17%)
Moneyball (14%)
Midnight in Paris (9%)
The Descendants (8%)
War Horse (6%)
Hugo (5%)
The Artist (3%)
The Tree of Life (3%)
Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close (1%)
None of them (35%)
http://www.jsonline.com/polls/137960028.html
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This honestly was the most stunning snub to me. Is there anyone who did NOT have that appropriately nostalgic song in their head after the movie was over? Definitely, definitely should've been a Best Original Song nominee, since it contributed to the mood and setting of the story!
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Now maybe my expectations were lower when Alien 3 was initially released, I was only 8, but Indy 4 has zero redeeming qualities in my book. Yes, even the opening warehouse chase was bad. The only thing I can think of that was of any redeeming value to me from Indy 4 is that it helped coin the phrase "nuked the fridge". I actually think Indy 4 nuked the the fridge worse than The Phantom Menace did to tell the truth. At least Alien 3 has a strong ending though. Charles S. Dutton has to give you goosebumps. Great speech, great one on one moment with the Alien. And I would argue that Alien 3 has the most iconic image of the entire franchise, or I better say the most popular, with the shot of the Alien head with mouth extended creeping closer towards the bald, cowering Ripley. You know that shot I'm talking about! HBO use to love that shot! But no love from Indy 4 is coming from me.
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Jan 25, 2012 2:14:46 AM CST
Sorry, but Oldman doesn't deserve it in the slightest
by melgibsoncalledmethenword
He shows no emotion...he just sits there looking stiff and baffled for 2 1/2 hours. Hey, that's how I looked while watching this!
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We're talking about the same movie, right? The worst Pixar movie in years? Critically panned?
Come on. "Cars 2" wasn't horrible, but it also wasn't good. Average at best.
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Jan 25, 2012 2:15:09 AM CST
You guys want Oldman to win for past services, not this
by melgibsoncalledmethenword
fact
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received only one nod, and it's for SOUND EDITING?? Last years Oscars featured great movies like True Grit and Black Swan, also multiple nominations for Inception, 127 Hours, and The Town. Yeah, The King's Speech won all the big ones, but at least I was INTERESTED last year.
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I don't understand french.
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Jan 25, 2012 4:29:30 AM CST
No Senna (which we knew) no Drive, no We need to talk about kevin...
by obscura
all be robbed of a nodd that all deserved.
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People always bring up that the movies that win Oscars often aren't that widely seen by the general public. But so what?
Firstly, there's other awards, like MTV and People's Choice, that are about awarding the most "popular" ie $$$
Secondly, you can always look up BO grosses if you're curious about what movies made the most money.
Finally, I think it would actually be good if the Oscars sometimes went more obscure (especially by opening up the foreign film race to more than 1 film per country) since, in the end, I think there should be a discussion of the lesser known movies. Sometimes the best work isn't the most popular, or at least isn't as well known on release, and sometimes the greatest talents come from smaller films and smaller roots.
If I want Harry Potter to win best picture, I can always watch the MTV movie awards, or I can simply look at a BO chart or even Rotten Tomatoes and go, "man that film was liked, yo!" -
The Oscars are a joke and ain't cool in the first place.
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Cool interview with John Carpenter here regarding his film scores. File under Scorekeeper/AICN Horror I guess.
http://thequietus.com/articles/07784-john-carpenter-interview -
Jan 25, 2012 6:24:43 AM CST
Crap year when THE FARTIST is a frontrunner.
by james_cameron_raped_my_childhood
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Jan 25, 2012 6:39:30 AM CST
Also the Best Actor category is incredibly dull.
by james_cameron_raped_my_childhood
Great performances but no memorable characters, that's the problem. I doubt we'll ever see anything like that year we had De Niro vs Hopkins again.
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Because otherwise he's breaking tradition.
"It's a wonbderful night for Oscar...Oscar
! Oscar! Who will win?" (Begin Medley) -
That should be the best picture right there. At least a nominination for Kirsten Dunst would have been nice. Or cinematography. They entirely snubbed it.
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Because his Schindler's List musical number would have been great.
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You realise that Cuba Gooding Jr has won one!
Where and what is he doing now?
Red Tails?!!! Hmmmmmmmm -
The most interesting category to me is best visual effect. Because I haven't seen half of the best picture nominees, and the ones I did weren't that great. Hugo was a good film but honestly I thought it dragged in the middle. The story just wasn't very interesting. I'm a big Spielberg fan and I would give the award to War Horse. But the best film of the year, Warrior, wasn't nominated. Or Planet of the Apes even.
As for visual effects Apes should get it, even though a lot of ignorant ass-hats! in these talkbacks have been dissing it. Transformers has always had amazing effects but it's much more difficult to create organic characters. I actually think the visual effects in Hugo trump it's cinematography. Personally I think the cinematography in Dragon Tattoo was the best. -
Jan 25, 2012 9:54:01 AM CST
I'm a Spielberg partisan from way back, but Tintin was borderline unwatchable.
by m6y
Terrible screenplay.
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Drive got snubbed for best film. Ha ha! What a joke.
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we need a geek awards
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Jan 25, 2012 10:18:49 AM CST
edskier, I HAD HIGH HOPES FOR MELANCHOLIA, MOSTLY BECAUSE OF KIRSTEN DUNST'S LUCIOUS TITS, BUT IT WAS PRETENTIOUS AND CUNTY LIKE YOU!!! FACT!!!
by creepythinmanrules
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Jan 25, 2012 10:32:07 AM CST
It's Clooney's year and as usual a film nobody gives a shit about will take it all
by darth_meh
Nobody will remember The Artist a year from now just like The King's Meh.
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Are Dunst's sumptuous bosoms at least worth a fast forward through to on Netflix streaming?
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Jan 25, 2012 10:35:16 AM CST
darth_meh, DON'T EVEN WASTE YOUR TIME WITH FAST FORWARDING. A FEW GOOGLE IMAGES SEARCHES OUGHT TO GET YOU WHERE YOU WANT TO GO!! FACT!!
by creepythinmanrules
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Jan 25, 2012 10:38:41 AM CST
Why are there male & female categories for acting? Shouldn't there be just ONE acting category?
by rtambree
It's not a sporting event where a good case can be made that it's not fair that women runners are pitched against male runners. But if it's acting, and women are equal to men, why are they segregated?
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Rise of the Planet of the Apes is better than all those pictures they chose for the prestigious "best picture" category.
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thanx
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and ANNIE HALL is pretty mediocre. In an entertaining way, mind you, but still pretty mediocre.
And yes, if it wasn't for Turner Classic Movies, I and most other people would be saying "Annie who?". -
Jan 25, 2012 10:48:37 AM CST
If Rooney Mara wins she should give her Oscar to Noomi Rapace
by darth_meh
If Jonah Hill wins I will suck Harry's dick!
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Are you idiot to THIS point? The original Lisbeth was EXACTLY how Noomi Rapace portrayed her. Rooney Mara has nothing to do with the character in the book.
What's more, the Millennium trilogy is trash by itself and even the Reznor and Fincher can't fix this. This nomination shows how far have the Oscar gone towards oblivion... -
If Jonah Hill wins an Oscar the world will end in December so my shame will be short lived.
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asimovlives?
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Think it opened with a short filmed musical starring Bernadette Peters doing a new version of "Puttin It Together".
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duel, jaws, close encounters, raiders, temple of doom and last crusade, always, hook and empire of the sun, jurassic park and jurassic park the lost world and schindlers list, the terminal, war of the worlds and Munich. and minority report. catch me if you can.
the films i have not seen by the berg are tin tin, 1941 qnd the colour purple. sugarland express.
films I wish I hadnt seen by the berg.
Kingdom of the crystal skull. jurassic park the lost world
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so what if he started out fat and in comedies? You haterz are just pissed he gets more snatch than you.
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RIP Merlin!!!
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I'm glad there's someone else who agrees Rooney should gte this.
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I really can't imagine how it could have been any worse.
Meh > KOTCS -
Jan 25, 2012 11:48:59 AM CST
choppah, THE ONLY SNATCH YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH IS THE PUTRID SACK OF PUSS AND MAGGOTS YOUR MOM CALLS HER VAGINA!! FACT!!
by creepythinmanrules
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All the money and weight loss in the world can't shrink that fat ugly head of his.
Reminds me of an old Mad Magazine comic by Sergio Aragones that was a before and after shot of a fat woman. It said Remove Ugly Fat. The second frame was exactly the same except the woman's head was missing.
That said, I applaud any geek or goober who gets lots of ass. Good for him. I'm sure McLovin is balls deep in tang as well. -
Jan 25, 2012 12:25:28 PM CST
So, is it ok yet to talk about The Artist's twist ending? *spoil free*
by proevad
Does it even have a twist ending? If so, what are your thoughts? Did it need to be in there? I thought it was, or why include it at all...I also thought it worked...made me smile.
Rewatch the opening scene...another reason why I think it was intentional.
I rewatched the whole film last night. The first time I watched it I was caught up in the gimmick and the novelty of the whole picture and really enjoyed it. I was surprised on the rewatch how caught up I was just in the story. It's a much better film than I gave it credit for.
Caught even more in-jokes and sly references this time through too. -
yup.
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I've got no horse in that race.
And she was the best thing about that movie. -
Jan 25, 2012 1:06:12 PM CST
Won't be watching this bullshit show this year: some fucking appalling choices...oh and fuck Billy Crystal too...
by scrote
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Looks like a really cheap wax mannequin. Steve Martin too. Age you fuckers! Wrinkle! It's ok.
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it's Rooney. Don't know why I can't remember her fucking name.
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I don't have an issue with the idea, I just thought it was pretty mediocre in the way it was done. Also, when Peppy says she has an idea that would make both of them happy - at first I thought it was going to be a live variety show they were doing. So when i found out it was just another film it didn't make any sense to me...especially with John Goodman enjoying it. None of that made any sense to me whatsoever.
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Jan 25, 2012 1:28:05 PM CST
Jonahl Hill still has a toad face...now he just has a little body to go with it
by melgibsoncalledmethenword
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Jan 25, 2012 1:28:53 PM CST
The Descendants deserves an Oscar just for not using that Hawaiian version of Over the Rainbow in it
by proevad
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The reason is that they can't play the same roles. Men and women roles in movies are different. It's the reason comedy isn't nominated, because you can't nominate it against drama because it's so different.
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Peace.
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agreed
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Musicals were the next big thing after talkies began in early Hollywood. There was very little dialogue in them--so George could have made a great living just dancing and singing. At least that is how I took that part of the ending. The film could have also been saying that Peppy invented the musical just for George--and that they were filming the first one ever at the end of the movie.
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He was a writer, a director, a producer, a dancer--not just an actor--An Artist.
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Don't stop on our account
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except for tree of life.. which really did make me wonder..... why the fuck i was watching that pretentious pile of crap.
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Jan 25, 2012 2:18:49 PM CST
NO TINKER TAILOR SOLDIER SPY FOR BEST PICTURE..? IT'S A FARCE!
by workshed
I TELLS YA!
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Jan 25, 2012 2:19:33 PM CST
LET'S MAKE THIS THE LOWEST RATED OSCARS IN HISTORY; DO NOT WATCH!
by simpsonian
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Jan 25, 2012 2:21:46 PM CST
AND SENNA WAS THE BEST DOCUMENTARY OF THIS YEAR, POSSIBLY THE DECADE...
by workshed
...NO ARGUMENT! I'm talking about the three-hour-plus cut btw. Truly epic storytelling.
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...barring Hugo, this years noms are bullshit.
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what is the point of this website?
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Jan 25, 2012 2:43:08 PM CST
After seeing Mike Fassbender naked, I wouldn't have titled the movie Shame
by proevad
Would have went with War Horse.
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or maybe The Descended.
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Jan 25, 2012 2:49:00 PM CST
Hugo was a good film but honestly I thought it dragged in the middle. The story just wasn't very interesting. I'm a big Spielberg fan and I would give the award to War Horse.
by halfbreedqueen2
I don't think I could disagree with a sentence more, except for maybe...
Newt Gingrich for President. -
Jan 25, 2012 2:53:38 PM CST
If Rooney Mara wins she should give her oscar to the NY Giants
by moosemalloy
-- naked.
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Jan 25, 2012 2:56:22 PM CST
At least Jonah Hill is a better actor, not to mention far less annoying, than Seth Rogan
by moosemalloy
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or maybe Prometheus.
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Jan 25, 2012 3:36:44 PM CST
A good film score isn't just "cool" music you personally like.
by starlesswinter7
Scores have to emotionally enhance the narrative. Yes, they are there to emotionally manipulate you. These ambient drones and techno beats everyone fawns over might sound good on your stereo, but what are they doing for the film? Very little - you just think they sound cool.
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Jan 25, 2012 4:19:37 PM CST
winona_ryders_pussy_juice...GEEK awards...That would be the awesomness of bad!
by conspiracy
Good god we need to make this so...the unintentional hilarity and pure creep factor alone would make it a must watch.
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He's the only one who would have the balls to show up. I wouldn't want to be around me.
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Jan 25, 2012 4:36:58 PM CST
remember last year when i picked ALL the academy award winning movies?
by fat_rancor_keeper
yea.............I should do that again this year.
That pissed people off for some reason.
lol -
Jan 25, 2012 5:06:07 PM CST
proevad ...Just imagine the security detail for someone like Dakota Fanning
by conspiracy
and the cleanup at the end of the night would require a Hazmat team.
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Boy, could Finchers cock be any deeper in your butt-holes?
Time to move on guys. As disappointing as Indy4 was, it's not nearly as bad as you guys make it out to be. We get it. Nothing is as good as it was in the 80s.
Woody Allen made a wonderful comment on ones nostalgic yearnings and current day disappointments with Midnight In Paris. That guy managed to move on from his love of New York. I suggest you all, metaphorically, do the same.
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Jan 25, 2012 5:15:00 PM CST
The Green Hornet would be a more deserving Best Picture nomination that Extremely Lousy and Incredibly Crap. The Green Hornet was robbed!
by siouxcitysarsaparilla
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I thought the Tron Legacy score gave that film some emotional weight when the script itself had none.
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Jan 25, 2012 5:30:45 PM CST
NONE of the films are fuckin' worthy... Except TRee of Life.
by mentaldominance
Even the garbage people keep mentioning (DRIVE?? Are you kidding?) were lackluster and average...
It's like everything people call great today is just a shallow imitation of something that came before it and was done much better. -
Jan 25, 2012 5:55:23 PM CST
9 films is pathetic when hardly one of HUNDREDS were any good...Continue lowering standards and relying on debt Hollywood and your "package" politician
by seansarto
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Jan 25, 2012 6:34:09 PM CST
GET SHAPIRO ON THE PHONE! *RING* HEY BUDDY! TALK TO ME ABOUT DRIVE. YEAH. I"LL GIVE YOU PENA AND GIAMBI. I KNOW! IM CRAZY LIKE THAT!"
by rkdn
Moneyball wins. Brad Pitt was subtle and effective. First movie in a LONG time where I felt like I was watching a documentary.
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Nobody gives a shit about the nominees. It's a pointless 3 hours.
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Jan 25, 2012 6:59:19 PM CST
Film is DEAD - All we have are talentless hacks living off remakes of superior films and shot on digital crap fests that look like porn.
by mentaldominance
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Jan 25, 2012 7:02:07 PM CST
starlesswinter7 "A good film score isn't just "cool" music you personally like." <--- SO TRUE MAN!!!
by mentaldominance
Sick of pop music in movies.
Standards are so low we don't even get orchestral scores composed for film anymore.
There is a huge difference between music you like to jam out to and a movie soundtrack. -
Jan 25, 2012 8:00:00 PM CST
This is a boring list, but I really liked Michelle Williams as Marilyn.
by kabrix
She was awesome. Also, I really hope Oldman wins... it's his time.
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I had hoped Tintin would win Best Animated Feature...I give it 3 1/2 stars. A little better than War Horse, which I hope wins Best Picture.
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Of course a fuckin' performance he SHOULDN'T have been nominated for.
When you watch "Tinker, Tailor" you'll see Gary's character with a permanent slight smile. A demeanor that never exits from indifferent (until of course the last 20 minutes) and how is that deserving? He DIDN'T ACT. He was quiet. You never knew what he was thinking because he didn't portray a fucking thing. -
Jan 25, 2012 9:32:15 PM CST
Hugo is great, Rickman was robbed the Artist was indeed mediocre
by beatsme
Still need to see the Descendants and the Separation.
And think Young Adult was a better version of Bridesmaids - I'd rather Patton Oswald than Jonah Hill here. -
I was actually going to write something similar when somebody further up said The Chemical Brothers were robbed for their work on HANNA, which is basically silent with the occasional two-minute rave thrown over the action scenes. However I do think Reznor & Ross should have been nominated for The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, which wasn't a traditional score but complemented the movie well.
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To the apologists, I have no doubt that a lot of people bagging on it here haven't even seen it. But that doesn't change the fact that it isn't very good. I've got much love for Alexander Payne, but as well-made as it is the story is paper-thin. And I know stars want to work with auteurs, but Clooney is completely miscast as one of Payne's everyshlubs. I'd nominate it for several technical awards, but that's about it.
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Really tired of hearing the same complaints about the nominated movies. It's not their fault people are stupid as fuck. The lists are really solid if you actually like movies and see them. The Artist is just hands down a good movie, same goes for Moneyball. Sorry Harry Potter didn't get shit but get over it. I don't exactly get what some of you people want. "Lowest ratings ever! No one cares about these movies!"... Um so what you want is Twilight 4 to rake in awards? Shut up and go to the movies. If you live in a shitty area and can't see them, move. But claiming these movies suck because you didn't see them is beyond stupid. List is good seems like most of the "movie fans" here are simply just haters who deeply believe Twilight 4 deserves five nominations. Oh also when the Globes nominate basically the same movies... Why were their ratings so good?... Whoops.
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Jan 26, 2012 3:12:33 AM CST
An Academy Award logo on a movie-box is the equivalent to the food pyramid on a cereal box
by waybee
They both represent a standard that isn't applicable to everyone or even necessarily fulfilled by what's inside. To take the analogy further; I get more enjoyment from a film like SHAME 'cause I like my movies dark, while absorbing less calories from WHEATIES 'cause of a gluten allergy. So no one can really say what the best is... But SMACK'EMS will always taste like shit so... umm... why does everyone in the Academy like eating SMACK'EMS? No seriously I'm getting lost with this now, thought I was on to something for a second...
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Jan 26, 2012 3:14:42 AM CST
When Jonah Hill Beats Max Von Sydow the apocalypse begins.
by tradeskilz
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...in a handy chart: http://www.cinemabums.com/?p=216
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Jan 26, 2012 8:36:29 AM CST
bantuwind, you're right, Crystal Skull is not nearly as bad as we make it out to be.
by darth_meh
It's as bad as Lucas and Spielberg made it.
Which was horrible.
Imo, it is worse than the worst parts of all the Prequels combined. -
Jan 26, 2012 10:45:55 AM CST
Crystal Skull's tone is just fucked. A movie that has no idea what it wants.
by ultratron
There's no question that Avatar should have won best picture over hurt locker. District 9 and inglorious Basterds should have easily bested the pathetic- nobody will ever watch again in their lives- shit locker. Avatar is the seminal hollywood altering work of this generation so it deserved to win. When you just look at the superhero fights in the matrix trilogy it saddens you to think of how pathetic the battles in marvel films have been. I just they that last bit in to see if you're still reading.
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Jan 26, 2012 11:54:19 AM CST
i dont believe all that mayan bs about the world ending..
by emeraldboy
the world ends when newt becomes president of the usa...
actually its when the sun dies and that isnt for a couple billion years...
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What a bunch of pretentious Dochenozzle snobs the Academy consist of.
I recently (finally) saw Drive and figured it would be a strong contender. One of the best Neo Noir crime dramas I have seen in ages. Dispite the somewhat cliche "Man with no name coming to town to save the day", i thought it was handled perfect with the atmosphere that is reminiscent of a Micheal Mann thrilller as well as Friedkin's To live and die in LA.Then of course the 80's music and title fonts. (looks almost simular to Risky Business.)
Another thing I liked about Drive, was the dialogue and scenarios wasnt over the top like plenty of today's action Movies. (The graphic elevator scene worked well in my opinion.)
Even the ending was perfect and not too predictable so to summerize it all, once in a while, a film that I didnt intend to like, more than measured up to my expectations.
Dive and The Man from Nowhere: Two of 2011's best.
Factimundo! -
Jan 26, 2012 12:40:09 PM CST
RE: "Ha. Someone actually thinks Alien3 is better than Indy4? "
by stalkeye
Yeah and by leaps and bounds. Despite my eternal umbrage of FOX?Weaver killing off Ripley, Alien 3 stood was it's own Movie and not some rehash of the previous two films which I treasue dearly especially Cameron's spin.
But suffice to say, I'll watch A3 5 times over before setting my eyes on that clusterfuckup that was KOTCS.
Seriously, surving a Nuclear blast via Fridge? Indy Jr?? And not to mention one of the worst endings ever. I was happy enough seeing Jones ride off into the sunset during the 3rd Film's finale, so what's this goooinnng to the Chapel bullshit?
WTF was Spielberg and Lucas thinking?!?
Seriously?
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how come there is no nomination for the lady about ang san sui kyi.
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It takes a lot of skill to do what Oldman did for the first 3/4 of TTSS, but I still don't think his performance was worthy of the nomination. He's done so much better, and there were better performances this year from other actors.
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I predicted this would happen, because one of the main characters opts not to have an abortion, and the Academy doesn't touch hot button issues like this if they come from the "Right"...
If they come from the "Left," however, it's another story altogether.
Regardless, SARAH'S KEY was incredible. -
FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Yes, Star Wars is a great film...if you're 6 years old and still playing with Hans Solo figures! I suppose some on here still are - quite a few years later.
Harrison Ford to George Lucas " You can type this shit George, but you can't speak it."
Lucas is the worst scriptwriter ever, and I include Ed Wood in the list. -
A decent film, no more. Ryan Gosling was trying to channel Steve McQueen in his Bullitt days - and missed by a mile. Smug ain't cool.
Albert brooks was also okay, but he's been better, many times. -
A top-class actor no doubt about that. Worse things have happened than him winning an Oscar. As for track record Christopher Plummer 'deserves' an Oscar more than anyone, even the great Nick Nolte. As for deserving Oscars, keep this in mind, Brando didn't win for Streetcar Named Desire, Pacino didn't win for Godfather 2, and Edward G Robinson never got Nominated - not even once - check out his track record!!
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Jan 27, 2012 5:31:57 AM CST
Max Von Sydow, Gary Oldman, Jonah Hill. You know, the Greats!
by tradeskilz
lmao
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So, at this point, I think we can all agree that if she was a stand-in they would issue her a nomination just 'cause. She sleep walks through roles and receives praise. She clearly is a talent but enough is enough.
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Jan 27, 2012 6:36:46 AM CST
Meryl Streep. The Deer hunter, Sophies choice, Bridges of Madison county. Yeah she got skills.
by tradeskilz
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Think it's a disgrace that the film and Tomas Alfredson weren't nominated.
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Jan 27, 2012 6:35:54 PM CST
If Spencer beats Chastain for Supp Actress, its racism.
by iwantmorelifefather
No freaking way she did a better job than jessica. No way.
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Jan 27, 2012 7:01:55 PM CST
WARRIOR BEST MOVIE OF 2011 even those dickheads @aicn dident had that on there list except capone!
by engel
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Jan 27, 2012 7:03:49 PM CST
10 years from now WARRIOR will be in everyones collection while no one will remeber the artist or the descendants etc...
by engel
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Jan 27, 2012 7:06:16 PM CST
the descendants is the new micahel clayton no one will remember it 5 years from now...shit clooney is overrated a s hell!
by engel
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Jan 27, 2012 7:07:06 PM CST
TOM HARDY should have got a nod...people who havent watched WARRIOR go see it the new generations ROCKY
by engel
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Jan 27, 2012 7:08:47 PM CST
oldman was robbed for leon he should have got a nod for that he was freaking brilliant in it!
by engel
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Jan 27, 2012 8:45:45 PM CST
What people call brilliant today, yesterday would have been called mediocre.
by mentaldominance
Kids with computers and crappy digital cameras making shit films with terrible music, acting...
No sense of composure...
No understanding of physical reality, lenses, timing, pace, etc...
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wish i liked it more than i did. some nice acting, but felt like i've seen this film many times before...
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Awesome.
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Both of these films should be best picture noms.When is the academy going to pick films the american people actually watch.Warrior was this generations Rocky.Though I hope it doesn't hit the sequel machine.And ROTPOTA,was a reimagining that not only works it has me wanting more from this universe.C'mon Hollyweird I could care less about half the films that you deem worthy,Stop stubbing great filmmaking.
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So I laugh when people use it and say shit like... "When is the academy going to pick films the american people actually watch."
So Inception and Avatar noms for best pic don't count? ROTK and Gladiator wins don't count? You guys are thick and would never be pleased. If a film you like flopped, suddenly it doesn't count as a little seen film, while if a massive big budget grossing film gets a nom, you ignore it or say, "but you still didn't..."
I mean DISTRICT FUCKING 9 got a best pic nom, and all people could do was bitch about The Dark Knight.
And I don't even like the Oscars, not because it's stuffy but because it's all about Hollywood power at the current moment. But still, really. It's OPINIONS, opinions of the industry. Sometimes amazing stuff is nominated, sometimes its ignored, sometimes drek is nominated, sometimes that shit is ignored.
And yes, ROTPOTA deserved a nom (not a win... the script still has a lot of problems, but the strength of the lead - Caesar - and some of the ideas that come with it are strong enough to earn it some actual love). But it's not like they're left out, it made a shit ton of $$$, launched a career, and was reviewed very favorably. I'd still rather some great obscure movie gets some love so maybe more people DO see it.
Because lord knows they sure as shit didn't go to watch Warrior. Drive didn't flop but it certainly wasn't a hit (35 m domestic, 70 m worldwide), so again cool it with the "oh that stuffy academy poor average me American" bs. -
Jan 29, 2012 1:28:07 PM CST
What people call brilliant today, yesterday would have been called mediocre.
by halfbreedqueen2
Those same things were said in the 70s. "Oh this isn't classical Hollywood".
There's always a lot of shit around. However, the amount of great movies the last 10 or so years is the best run I've seen since the 1970s. -
I know, it's not an 80s throwback or the Rocky of this generation (that nobody fucking saw), but I've heard amazing stuff about it and need to get my ass to a theatre for it.
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Saw it last night with some friends, instantly one of my favorite films of all time. Fun as hell and a pure adrenaline rush. Sure, much of the beats were predictable, but the characters and the acting was so fucking good...not to mention the fights were brutal. Def the best 2011 movie I've seen.
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Jan 31, 2012 6:09:03 AM CST
Harry, will youmbe hacking Oscar.com's server this year?
by canned_dirty_ape
Cos I really really enjoyed seeing you do it a few years ago....... lol.
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Anybody in fact other than STREEP winning and acting as an apologist for that vile fucking Thatcher bitch cunt.
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